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[00:19:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Approaching testing of people on the spot - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:19] <exec> 08└─We are rapidly approaching the point where on the spot STD testing can be accomplished. Or "bad genes, procreation denied".. (expect the facebook slime to tap into this)
[00:19:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02cost decline - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:21] <exec> 08└─Is genome sequencing cost [genome.gov] going to decline some more? It has been stagnant lately.
[00:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:cost decline - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:22] <exec> 08└─Yes, it will. The newer flow cells in the works will have all the signal processing in the sequencer (currently the processing circuits are included in the flow cell), reducing the consumable component to plastic with a bit of embedded gel -- very easy to mass produce at low cost. With the Mk II USB...
[00:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:cost decline - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:24] <exec> 08└─Can one sequence specific bits of the genome to reduce cost? is it possible to automatically sniff pieces of dead skin etc from the air and sequence directly? Can this sequencing unit be ordered? What's really inside the box? Any further price drops on the horizon, ie technically possible but not ye...
[00:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:cost decline - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:25] <exec> 08└─What about the commercial market, small labs specializing in (you can probably guess) Paternity, or police departments working on their backlog**? Is this gear even remotely suitable for that type of work, where specimen matching is just about the only criteria? Can pared down versions of this be ma...
[00:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02TGAC and Optalysys - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 1972 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:27] <exec> 08└─http://www.theplatform.net/2015/03/25/a-light-approach-to-genomics-with-optical-processors/ [theplatform.net] These are all issues that TGAC considered during its massive sequencing effort to unravel the “simple” bread wheat genome. To do this and more human-focused genomic analyses, the center...
[00:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02crusty DNA - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:29] <exec> 08└─Careful, criminals. [nydailynews.com]
[00:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:So will this translate to a new source of power - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:37] <exec> 08└─"harvest any energy better than currently methods" Well it sounds like this could lead to simpler more miniature pumps with no moving parts (other than swelling) by simply switching on and off of an electro magnet. That magnet could be some distance away, say through the skin, allowing you to embed...
[00:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:57] <exec> 08└─This is very true. I don't generally consider myself a stupid person, a moron, or a nincompoop (NPC). That being said, until quite recently I thought Cream of Tartar quite logically was an ingredient of Tartar Sauce. Likewise, I will not say how many decades I was around before I found out that Buff...
[00:20:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:robots.txt tar pit? - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:05] <exec> 08└─> Sometimes the files/directories under robots.txt are used only by the web server (fetched and embedded in real time) Files such as these should not be publicly available on the website.
[00:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:robots.txt tar pit? - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:08] <exec> 08└─Some of the more intelligent ones will even try the URLs and see if the bot gets banned; if so, the rest of the bots will ignore URLs like that.
[00:20:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 1026 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:26] <exec> 08└─*bing* *bing* *bing* It's not an export, if it's given away freely and on an extremely advanced communications platform that reaches worldwide....... What's so blissfully amusingly stupid is that if it is designed to hamper this kind of dissemination of code, it's completely bypassed just by setting...
[00:20:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:27] <exec> 08└─What's preventing anyone from just making secret deals?
[00:20:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:Predictable Reactionary Response - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:49] <exec> 08└─Whoosh...
[00:20:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Predictable Reactionary Response - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:51] <exec> 08└─The disagree mod was because I disagree that it is funny.
[00:21:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Taibhsear [1464] 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 212 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:21:25] <exec> 08└─"IIRC, your regular taxi driver charges WAY less than uber." I take it you either haven't taken a taxi in a while or don't live in a large city. In Chicago the taxis are typically twice the price of uber or lyft.
[00:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Bright line tests vs Balancing tests - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:42] <exec> 08└─You're still describing residual problems. These institutions have operational dogmas put in place in response to past problems.
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[01:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03middlemen [504] (Score:2) 02meanwhile... - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:21] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile in the US the citizens are busy evolving their positions on gay marriage and Obamacare.
[01:20:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03middlemen [504] (Score:2) 02Re:Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:20:34] <exec> 08└─I'll write a book and sell it as literature for the weird guys that enjoy such creations.
[01:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Katastic [3340] (Score:2) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:23:32] <exec> 08└─Pipelining by definition: at best does not change latency, and at worst, significantly increases latency. It cannot reduce latency. Fun history: It's 50% of the reason the Pentium 4 Netburst architecture was a complete failure and slower than the Pentium III's. They added a huge pipeline, with huge...
[01:23:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:23:39] <exec> 08└─It doesn't change the laws of thermal dynamics and the faster you go? The hotter you get. If you have tried one of the latest PCIe SSDs you'll know they are already a lot warmer than the SATA versions and that is only on a 4x bus....what do you think the temps will reach at 8x? 16x? Eventually you W...
[01:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:40,000 deaths versus ~6 - 06Takata Airbag Defect Leads to Largest Automotive Recall in U.S. History - 1287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:24:15] <exec> 08└─Yea, and when I hit a Cadillac, who ran a stop sign about a decade ago, the airbags sprained both my wrists/hands to the point where I could neither unbuckle my seat belt, nor open the door to climb out. The seatbelt did all the work, the airbags caused more injury and damage to the car than the cra...
[01:25:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Fauxlosopher [4804] 02Re:This is unusual in what way? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 56 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:25:04] <exec> 08└─perhaps even used unofficially for more harmful purposes
[01:28:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Proprietary Pocket Plugin - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:28:22] <exec> 08└─Android: What about Dolphin?
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[02:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03dmbasso [3237] (Score:1) 02Re:meanwhile... - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:24] <exec> 08└─Of course, that does not need money. When you have to pay for a 10 trillion dollar war, you better shape the discourse to not make money references.
[02:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Cisco not getting to bid on that....? - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:25] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing no US vendors need bid on any of that project....
[02:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Cisco not getting to bid on that....? - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:27] <exec> 08└─Not necessarily: To aid in this development, Beijing is set to gradually allow more private capital to enter the Chinese telecommunications industry, and the State Council claims "over 100 enterprises will provide broadband services by the end of the year".
[02:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03m2o2r2g2 [3673] (Score:1) 02They may be totalitarian... - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:28] <exec> 08└─Sure they might not have "freedom" (but most western countries are in a race to the bottom there anyway), but they sure know how to actually get stuff done rather than just waste money in bureaucracy and partisan fighting.
[02:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khchung [457] (Score:4, Informative) 02Bad translation, and more importantly, by end 2015 - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:30] <exec> 08└─By the end of 2017, all households in locations above prefecture level will have access to 100 Mbps fiber optic networks
[02:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:cost decline - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 1900 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:41] <exec> 08└─Yes, targeted sequencing is certainly a good way to reduce the costs. With a combination of targeted sequencing and sample multiplexing via DNA barcoding, you get very accurate (i.e. high coverage) sequences at very low cost.Automated sampling is not currently possible, but I can imagine that someon...
[02:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:cost decline - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:43] <exec> 08└─I am quite glad something is finally approaching the market, it has been a long time coming... Hopefully the cost of 30x human will drop to $250 or less, so National Geographic can organise it. I am not joking! I think they have done a great deal to raise awareness of the utility of DNA sequencing.
[02:19:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02Re:cost decline - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:44] <exec> 08└─Can pared down versions of this be made targeted at that sort of market?
[02:19:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:So will this translate to a new source of power - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:55] <exec> 08└─If everyone has the attitude of "Oh, it doesn't necessarily translate into an application" every time there's a scientific discovery, we'd still be in the dark ages.
[02:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02That's one jargon-laden abstract - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 1176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:59] <exec> 08└─Which I don't pretend to fully understand. However, there seems to be a key phrase: The equilibrium adaptive cellular structure is responsible for long-sought non-dissipative (hysteresis-free), linearly reversible and isotropic magnetization curves along all directions within a single crystal. It's...
[02:20:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:20:20] <exec> 08└─I'll refer you back to the old saying: If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all. Its a good general rule, and you'll be a happier person when you stop looking at the world as screwed up and full of morons. Try being constructive, we've got enough troubles as it is.
[02:20:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:20:26] <exec> 08└─Stupid people are stupid; film at 11.
[02:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Squidious [4327] (Score:1) 02Re:Johnny Cab from Total Recall - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:00] <exec> 08└─You may have decreased the total number of cars, but you have increased the total number of miles driven daily and thus the number of cars on the road. Example from today: My wife and I both commute 10 miles to our jobs. We have two cars that make a round trip and travel a total of 2 x 2 x 10 = 40 m...
[02:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How? (Re:Just Fine Thank You Very Much) - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:24] <exec> 08└─You need 6 cars, in case 3 of them are in the shop at once.
[02:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03khchung [457] (Score:2) 02Re:Working as Designed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:49] <exec> 08└─It is a Darwinian evolution of blame shifting. Anyone or any organization that are easily held accountable (i.e. blamed) would be blamed eventually, only those who are successful at shifting blame survives. As long as the society focus on finding someone to blame, rather than focusing on effectivene...
[02:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03khchung [457] (Score:2) 02Re:bank - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:23:27] <exec> 08└─You got your money returned promptly precisely because BoA *is* a bank, and is thus regulated. Paypal can lock up peoples' money whenever they like because they *aren't* regulated as a bank. Your example actually proved the point.
[02:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obligatory - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:24:18] <exec> 08└─Me neither. Unless that horizon is in my back yard. That's how it works, right?
[02:26:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:So Same Shit -Different Shingle? - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:52] <exec> 08└─I agree it's not different (or maybe even a great deal less worrisome if it's a separate stand alone thing) than parts of what the NSA & co. are doing. And it's still wrong yet plenty of ordinary people do it too, in essence it's no different at all from “doxing” etc. The only difference is tha...
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[03:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:meanwhile... - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:34] <exec> 08└─⚢ (づ￣ ³￣)づ ⚣ OBAMACARE IS EVOLVING 🔧📡 This is just a test. 📣👌
[03:19:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:meanwhile... - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:35] <exec> 08└─"You can keep your doctor, you can keep your healthcare" = Phucking liar.
[03:19:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They may be totalitarian... - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:39] <exec> 08└─That is what central control is good for. If all you care about is getting stuff done then totalitarianism is king. With democracy and the distributed economics of capitalism most of the resources are bound up fighting on opposing sides. In China there is only one true side and whatever they say goe...
[03:19:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03khchung [457] 02Bad translation, and more importantly, by end 2015 - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 120 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:41] <exec> 08└─By the end of 2017, all households in locations above prefecture level will have access to 100 Mbps fiber optic networks
[03:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad translation, and more importantly, by end 2 - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:43] <exec> 08└─From the official translation: "By the end of 2017... over 80 percent of villages will be covered by fiber-optic networks" Different thing then?
[03:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad translation, and more importantly, by end 2 - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:44] <exec> 08└─It's mind blowing when you consider that Australia's very expensive National Broadband Network is a 10+ year project. Go China!
[03:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khchung [457] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad translation, and more importantly, by end 2 - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:46] <exec> 08└─That is probably from the later part of the full paragraph for 2017. 到2017年底，全国所有设区市城区和大部分非设区市城区家庭具备100Mbps光纤接入能力，直辖市、省会城市等主要城市宽带用户平均接入速率超过30Mbps，基本达到2015年发达国家...
[03:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad translation, and more importantly, by end 2 - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:47] <exec> 08└─Which roughly means by the end of 2015 (just 7 months from now!), the same urban locations would have 80% covered with access to 100Mbps fiber. THIS is much more concrete than some plans 2.5 years away!
[03:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03khchung [457] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad translation, and more importantly, by end 2 - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:49] <exec> 08└─You can expect these things will happen, barring some great unpredictable disasters (like great floods, earthquakes, financial crisis, war, etc), especially when the announcement came from that high in the government. BUT, you can also expect some of the regional offices to fudge some of the numbers...
[03:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad translation, and more importantly, by end 2 - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:51] <exec> 08└─We can be pretty confident that $182 billion will be spent. 👌💰🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃
[03:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bad translation, and more importantly, by end 2 - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:52] <exec> 08└─Might as well spend it on stuff like this. I hope they succeed on their massive nuclear power station initiative (might have a disaster or two- esp if there's a big earthquake). Once they have that they can wind down the coal power plants and stop poisoning themselves (and others) so much. high spee...
[03:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03SuperCharlie [2939] (Score:2) 02Just imagine it.. - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:54] <exec> 08└─The Bandwidth Cannon they will possess will be incredible.
[03:20:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:20:36] <exec> 08└─To slow down the automated crawling and caching of websites you don't want indexed by bots you can require that someone solve a captcha or other problem that requires human intervention before granting access to said information.
[03:22:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:10] <exec> 08└─I've seen people say this a lot, but it makes no sense. When you get used to being driven around, you're not going to suddenly be able to take control when something goes wrong, because you won't be expecting it.
[03:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:So Same Shit -Different Shingle? - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 3510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:27:14] <exec> 08└─That comment of yours really brought out the least optimistic side of me (understatement of the week) XD Someone is protesting. Someone is protesting against someone's convictions and right to protest. Someone is monitoring and mapping someone's convictions and right to protest against someone's con...
[03:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Summary: Don't use social media - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:27:19] <exec> 08└─The smart human doesn't hold any opinions at all, bows the head meekly or proudly as befits the context, and tries to move away if at all possible (Elon Musk was too late, many decades too late, and Mars is a dead end shithole like a venus flytrap). I'm not smart or I wouldn't be here, I'm afraid th...
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[04:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:4, Insightful) 02I hate smartphones - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 1435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:24] <exec> 08└─Stuff like this makes me want to lock down my smartphone, but it's really hard to do so. Unless you are running a custom Android distribution (which is not supported on all phones), it's almost impossible to completely clean off all the junk running on phones nowadays without breaking some proprieta...
[04:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Google Play - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:25] <exec> 08└─I thought spyware was already a feature of Google Play. The NSA apparently just wants a piece of the action.
[04:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Millitary plots and pyhttpextract - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:26] <exec> 08└─"Some of the leaking information apparently helped the agencies uncover a communication channel linked to a foreign military unit believed to be plotting “covert activities” in Western countries." How many times have we heard this? Think of the children right? Also, the report says they used a t...
[04:20:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:So will this translate to a new source of power - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:20:18] <exec> 08└─Yeah -- until I saw that this was published in Nature I was completely thinking that this sounds like some free-energy perpetual motion bullshit. The hyperbole in TFS is so over the top, it instantly makes me suspicious.
[04:20:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So will this translate to a new source of power - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:20:19] <exec> 08└─Which is why I found most of the scientific community's response to "Cold Fusion" rather disappointing. It was an interesting phenomena even if it wasn't fusion and even if there wasn't "excess energy" as claimed. More than a few people did manage to achieve similar _effects_ even if they did not fi...
[04:20:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Non-Joulian... - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:20:24] <exec> 08└─No, it's -- gewg_ or Ian.
[04:21:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"except Canada" - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:21:08] <exec> 08└─Wrong topic? Also, CANDU doesn't create uranium. It burns it as it is created, which makes your point moot.
[04:21:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Nice - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:21:33] <exec> 08└─No offense, but this is a terrible argument. Here's why. You don't consider the relative advantages of coal and renewables. If coal remains quite superior for the current uses, then there's no reason to change - at least on the basis that renewables got better. And given that the countries with the...
[04:21:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:End the fossil fuel subsidies - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:21:51] <exec> 08└─Sure, they are. If the fossil fuel industry actually were draining 5 trillion dollars a year which is crudely a few percent of humanity's net wealth including human capital, we would have noticed by now. Further, using the same creativity and disregard for reality (I believe other repliers have adeq...
[04:21:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:21:57] <exec> 08└─With all due respect, I know of no other commercially viable heat to electricity process used in utilities other than steam.
[04:23:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:23:37] <exec> 08└─our entire society and in turn government is based on money which is bad because money is used to manipulate the government and in turn fucks over our society in order for the rich to get more money.
[04:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:So Same Shit -Different Shingle? - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:25] <exec> 08└─I don't know of any country anywhere (at least not in Europe, Asia, or North America, doubt the rest are any better) that allows demonstrations unless they've been approved in advance.
[04:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:If royssia is orthodox ... - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:41] <exec> 08└─Aha! I've discovered what your objective is! You want us all to start pleading for swapping you with GNAA! Clever, very clever, outright dastardly how sweet you make such a deal seem. But now your evil plan is foiled!
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[05:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re: Millitary plots and pyhttpextract - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:19:32] <exec> 08└─https://pythonhosted.org/httpforge/httpextract.html [pythonhosted.org] ?
[05:20:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:cost decline - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:20:12] <exec> 08└─Still I can see it actually improving forensic DNA analyses to near CSI (the TV series) speed. The really amazing stuff will be in speeding up medical diagnostics.
[05:20:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:cost decline - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:20:13] <exec> 08└─Let me add to that. This looks to be a step closer to Bones McCoy's hand held diagnostics scanner.
[05:20:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:20:51] <exec> 08└─Because everybody just lurves doing captchas.
[05:21:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Brownouts in coal country - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:21:55] <exec> 08└─The laws of physics go on working whether or not you believe in them
[05:22:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:22:09] <exec> 08└─In your rush to sling insults, did you take the time to find any commercially viable examples of any of those in use at a power utility?
[05:22:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:22:10] <exec> 08└─Oh, and in your search, be sure to check if steam is involved anywhere in the process.
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[06:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Quantum theory is weird. - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:23] <exec> 08└─In an infinite universe, not only are all things possible, they are probable.
[06:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:3, Insightful) 02No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 1963 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:24] <exec> 08└─Maroney should be up in arms about this. Specifically, about the first sentence which invokes the scientific F-bomb: fraud. He never, ever said that word... and by publishing that sentence Nature is fueling the "scientists don't know anything!" mindset which is eroding the credibility of real expert...
[06:19:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03darkfeline [1030] 02I hate smartphones - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 1435 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:33] <exec> 08└─Stuff like this makes me want to lock down my smartphone, but it's really hard to do so. Unless you are running a custom Android distribution (which is not supported on all phones), it's almost impossible to completely clean off all the junk running on phones nowadays without breaking some proprieta...
[06:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:I hate smartphones - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:19:35] <exec> 08└─Tasker will do most of what you want, and you cn go even deeper by running Python or Lua scripts to do direct API calls if you like.
[06:19:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03middlemen [504] 02meanwhile... - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 97 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:46] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile in the US the citizens are busy evolving their positions on gay marriage and Obamacare.
[06:20:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gringer [962] 02Re:cost decline - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 1900 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:20:12] <exec> 08└─Yes, targeted sequencing is certainly a good way to reduce the costs. With a combination of targeted sequencing and sample multiplexing via DNA barcoding, you get very accurate (i.e. high coverage) sequences at very low cost.Automated sampling is not currently possible, but I can imagine that someon...
[06:20:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 504 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:20:47] <exec> 08└─I would like to submit that the phrase 'stupid people are stupid" should be used much less frequently. Everyone, Everywhere is stupid about something, and you never know the circumstances that put a person their position. I'll refer you back to the old saying: If you can't say something nice don't s...
[06:22:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:15] <exec> 08└─I can't determine what commercially viable examples you may be aware of tomorrow, much less twenty years from now.
[06:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 827 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:30] <exec> 08└─Around here ( Los Angeles, California area ), I have seen pretty good sized trucks outfitted with racks just to carry billboards. That is all these trucks seem to exist for. Just to carry a billboard. For the business, its a tradeoff between getting the rights to erect a billboard onto a piece of p...
[06:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trust the Computer - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:23:56] <exec> 08└─Parent is referencing this [wikipedia.org] rather obscure RPG.
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[07:20:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Linatux [4602] (Score:1) 02Re:Quantum theory is weird. - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:06] <exec> 08└─But the universe is finite!
[07:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Quantum theory is weird. - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:07] <exec> 08└─But the universe is finite!
[07:20:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Quantum theory is weird. - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:09] <exec> 08└─Are we sure?
[07:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:12] <exec> 08└─There is absolutely nothing fraudulent about quantum theory. Nothing. It may seem weird, sure, but it produces testable predictions, all of which to date have been verified. This isn't just me saying as much, either - you, too, can experimentally verify the wavefunction is a real thing with as littl...
[07:20:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:13] <exec> 08└─nature@nature.com
[07:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 1694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:20:15] <exec> 08└─So, we are not sure whether the wave function is an actual function or a virtual function? Well, my dear physicist, what would a non-virtual wave function be, if it was not cognized by some perceptive being? Oh, we have to go Back to Kant, where all this nonsense started! Alright, the entire univer...
[07:21:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Covalent [43] 02That's one jargon-laden abstract - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 1176 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:21:29] <exec> 08└─Which I don't pretend to fully understand. However, there seems to be a key phrase: The equilibrium adaptive cellular structure is responsible for long-sought non-dissipative (hysteresis-free), linearly reversible and isotropic magnetization curves along all directions within a single crystal. It's...
[07:21:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:21:53] <exec> 08└─And how long have you been working as a chef? Nobody cares if my mother doesn't know the difference between robots.txt and security, the problem is when a sysadmin doesn't know.
[07:21:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 805 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:21:55] <exec> 08└─The world is screwed up and full of morons. However if you're not one of those in power then it often is in your better interests to help the morons be less moronic (especially so in democracies, imperfect or otherwise) - assuming you're a good guy. Or take advantage of the morons - if you're a bad...
[07:22:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:robots.txt tar pit? - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:22:07] <exec> 08└─Most bots parallelize tasks and have a fairly short timeout period per request.
[07:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Why not send in a comment? - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 1308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:22:34] <exec> 08└─Send a comment to publiccomments@bis.doc.gov referencing rule BIS-2015-0011. Why not - it can do no harm, and might do some good. I just sent the following: Ladies and gentlemen Rule BIS-2015-0011 is essentially proposing export restrictions on information. While it may refer to software products, i...
[07:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:23:15] <exec> 08└─Oh, and in your search, be sure to check if steam is involved anywhere in the process.
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[08:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03nyder [4525] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Don't embarrass the Government - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:24] <exec> 08└─I imagine they will keep piling on stupid charges and keep raising the amount of time they are going to threaten him with, since this is how they do business. They will freeze his assets so he can't defend himself, paint as a traitor and try to get him to plea bargain something for them. Guess they...
[08:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't embarrass the Government - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 1161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:25] <exec> 08└─As peaceful a protest as it may have been, and as shoot-the-messenger as this whole thing has become, protesters initiating direct action have to expect this sort of digging through the rule book to identify everything they can possibly be charged with. I suspect pretty much everything they charge h...
[08:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Disproportionate amount of hassle - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:26] <exec> 08└─The most official way to unofficially say "we are fascist" is to pile up charges against normal people who dare criticizing authorities. I propose a motto for the USA: WE DEFEATED FASCISM WE DEFEATED COMMUNISM 'CAUSE WE DON'T LIKE COMPETITION
[08:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Hoping for trial and nullification - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:28] <exec> 08└─The way the prosecutors pile on charges is just embarrassing. Really, shouldn't they just have to "pick one"? It's all meant to force someone to plea bargain, so that the government doesn't actually have to prove its case. I hope he gets piles of pro bono help, and forces this to trial. Of course, h...
[08:19:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quantum theory is weird. - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:39] <exec> 08└─In an infinite universe, not only are all things possible, they are probable.
[08:19:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] 02No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 1963 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:40] <exec> 08└─Maroney should be up in arms about this. Specifically, about the first sentence which invokes the scientific F-bomb: fraud. He never, ever said that word... and by publishing that sentence Nature is fueling the "scientists don't know anything!" mindset which is eroding the credibility of real expert...
[08:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:44] <exec> 08└─with Relativity. EVEN IF - and it's a very strong if - quantum theory isn't entirely correct, it's at least good enough to explain everything we've tested and used it for to date.
[08:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:45] <exec> 08└─Hey don't get smart now! We don't want you waking up to the fact they've spent shit loads of money to prove we can only chase our tails.
[08:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:47] <exec> 08└─The real issue is that physicists, including yourself, act in attitude one way and when challenged become highly technical, backpedaling with frightening speed. Quantum theory is right, quantum theory explains this thing and that thing, but when pressed it is found that such statements are emotional...
[08:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 1851 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:49] <exec> 08└─A physical theory being "realist" does not mean it agrees with reality. I can make realist theories which do not in any way relate to our observations (those are obviously not good theories, as they are falsified by observation, but "realist" and good are orthogonal to each other). A physical theory...
[08:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:50] <exec> 08└─"It is not philosophy we are after, but the behavior of real things." -- Richard P. Feynman
[08:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:52] <exec> 08└─Ahh, so that is why he spent all his days with abstract numbers on chalkboards simulating what might possibly be in a way that is descriptive of what has been seen before. To see the behavior of real things is not what math or physics does. Those disciplines describe behavior, which is not the same...
[08:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:53] <exec> 08└─"It is not philosophy we are after, but the behavior of real things." -- Richard P. Feynman
[08:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 1615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:55] <exec> 08└─> Alright, the entire universe could be a virtual construct. We have no way of proving it is not. I keep thinking that this is badly formulated. The definition of real vs simulated is not absolute but relative to the observer. The universe is real by definition, like the disposition of pieces on a b...
[08:20:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Google Play - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:06] <exec> 08└─Well, one interesting thing about this is that apparently Google doesn't just roll over and do what the NSA says the way some companies (cough cough.. Microsoft... cough cough.. AT&T... cough cough...) have been shown or alleged to do. If they did then the NSA wouldn't have to resort to what amounts...
[08:20:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Google Play - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:07] <exec> 08└─cough cough.. Microsoft... cough cough.. AT&T... cough cough...
[08:20:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: Millitary plots and pyhttpextract - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:10] <exec> 08└─"We used a freely available tool, pyhttpextract, to decipher the contents of this encoded data block." Wow did they ever up the geek talk on that one. Lead me to believe they did some magic reverse cipher on that block. sed, awk, grep are also freely available for parsing text. Shit if you really wa...
[08:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:53] <exec> 08└─Because use of steam or water-cooled technology nearby completely invalidates any use of other fluids to transfer or absorb heat?
[08:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:54] <exec> 08└─The point isn't to absorb heat. The point is to make electricity.
[08:28:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:44] <exec> 08└─Let's not forget Madeleine Albright... Interviewer: "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" Albright: "we think the price is worth it" https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]...
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[09:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Don't embarrass the Government - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 1017 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:32] <exec> 08└─The piling on of charges against a person is a common tactic used by district attorneys and U.S. attorneys to force a plea bargain. I know a guy (one of the people I regularly correspond with in prisons since that's something I do to make the world a better place) who when arrested was facing four f...
[09:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't embarrass the Government - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:33] <exec> 08└─Sure go ahead and spend money on a private attorney. Your attorney will tell you to take the plea bargain because attorneys don't want the criminal system to fall apart either. There's so much money to be made in telling defendants to take the plea bargain!
[09:19:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02Disproportionate amount of hassle - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 242 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:19:34] <exec> 08└─The most official way to unofficially say "we are fascist" is to pile up charges against normal people who dare criticizing authorities. I propose a motto for the USA: WE DEFEATED FASCISM WE DEFEATED COMMUNISM 'CAUSE WE DON'T LIKE COMPETITION
[09:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:Hoping for trial and nullification - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 1731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:37] <exec> 08└─I think it is useful that the prosecution itemise all the charges so ordinary folk can see just how many over-reaching laws there are. He is technically guilty on many counts, and this is a problem with 'strict liability' laws - it captures the inadvertantly guilty as well as those where a 'mens rea...
[09:19:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hoping for trial and nullification - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:39] <exec> 08└─if there was ever a case for jury nullification, this is it.
[09:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So when will Obama fix it? - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:19:40] <exec> 08└─When will Obama pardon him, declare that the prosecution acted "stupidly" and invite Hughes over for beer?
[09:19:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Aaron Swartz prosecution style again - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:19:42] <exec> 08└─This smells Aaron Swartz case, overzealous prosecution [wikipedia.org] a long way.. If this civilization fails, this is will be one contributing factor. Namely punishing people doing acts to improve society. Just study control systems with faulty feedback mechanism.
[09:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:57] <exec> 08└─A theory that (in general terms) says that every option happens at the same time, and only at the time of observation will a random option be chosen, is good enough to explain just about anything.
[09:20:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:20:05] <exec> 08└─Back to the wave function, if all it yields is accurate probability figures then it's a fraud, if it yielded accurate predictions then it would be a model.
[09:21:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 342 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:21:31] <exec> 08└─Shorter version of the story: Stupid people are stupid; film at 11. Robots.txt is not a security measure, the fact dumb people misunderstood that is on them. The purpose of robots.txt is to warn spiders away from areas of a site that will produce bad search results if crawled. If you are using it fo...
[09:21:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marneus68 [3572] (Score:1) 02Some people never learn - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:21:46] <exec> 08└─The same way ignorance of the law doesn't make you innocent, doing stupid things without prior knowledge doesn't make you any less stupid. Yeah, people are stupid about some technical stuff, but if they go into the trouble o starting something like a website, they should know that they are responsib...
[09:21:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02robots.txt tar pit? - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 813 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:21:53] <exec> 08└─What about making a robots.txt tar pit? Make a page listed nowhere but in robots.txt (and coming very early there), and have the web server return an endless stream of arbitrary uninteresting data (say, an ordered list of all positive integers), but with pauses after each chunk; just enough to not h...
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[10:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Degenerating? - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:19:25] <exec> 08└─This seems like a system that is degenerating? Perhaps Somalia is the new desired state of the country?
[10:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Degenerating? - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:26] <exec> 08└─Yesterday things were better than Today, and Tomorrow will be worse! Everything that ever happened after I came of age, has been a sign of societal decay!!
[10:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02not gewgy enough - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:19:27] <exec> 08└─ITYM: Vanessa Perez was previously convicted of absentee ballot fraud (along with dozens of others) *benefitting a Republican-affiliated candidate* after Miami's infamous 1997 election.
[10:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:not gewgy enough - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:29] <exec> 08└─Yeah! We need some more Ethanol-gewg_ for his deliciously gay bullshit.
[10:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:Hoping for trial and nullification - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 639 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:45] <exec> 08└─little know fact. If everyone charged with a crime in the USA refused to bargain and instead demanded their Constitutionally mandated trial by jury the criminal legal system (note that it has never been a criminal justice system) would grind to a halt. Think of all the people who would have to be c...
[10:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hoping for trial and nullification - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:46] <exec> 08└─Sure OK. Good luck convincing people to demand trial by jury. Hey guess what. If everyone stopped voting for Democrats and Republicans, the two party system would suddenly collapse. Just because it's true doesn't mean it's ever going to happen.
[10:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Prosecution for what now? - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:50] <exec> 08└─Do you remember what Hughes was doing to improve society? Does anyone? His motivation is completely forgotten already. Now he's just Gyrocopter-Guy. The only thing you need to remember about Gyrocopter-Guy is that Gyrocopter-Guy is guilty, guilty, guilty. And if Gyrocopter-Guy is guilty then you mus...
[10:20:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:20:16] <exec> 08└─It's all uncertain. As in architecture, we Kant tell if its Wright or Knott. :)
[10:20:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Provable experiments may be in the future - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:20:17] <exec> 08└─Even though I analyze through the valley of the shadow of things that can't be tested, I will fear no failure because, for there will be experiments in the future that may test these analyzes. In essence.. sometimes one will have to do fruitless theory for a long time before one can reach the land o...
[10:21:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Marand [1081] 02Re:So will this translate to a new source of power - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 165 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:21:27] <exec> 08└─If everyone has the attitude of "Oh, it doesn't necessarily translate into an application" every time there's a scientific discovery, we'd still be in the dark ages.
[10:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:24:39] <exec> 08└─kurenai.tsubasa wrote :- The only reason decision-makers get separated from the consequences .. is because we let them throw their hands up and say “It's too technical!"
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[11:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:1) 02Metal? - 06Ceres Bright Spots Seen Closer Than Ever - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:19:36] <exec> 08└─Aren't some asteroids thought to be partially metal? Some largish bits could have been sheared or polished during the formation of the crater and certainly wouldn't oxidize out there, staying just as shiny as when the crater was first blasted.
[11:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02All false, of course - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:19:48] <exec> 08└─In reality, Vanessa and Mario Perez were victims of an identity theft, and those identity thieves falsified those police reports. It was also the identity thieves who did the ballot fraud. You see, here's the police record of this identity theft, which we've just … err … found in the archives.
[11:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't embarrass the Government - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:19:58] <exec> 08└─>and they've got him bang to rights on all of them. Yippie fucking do. They write the statutes. They got us all dead to rights. EVERYTHING we would want to do is Illegal. Marry pretty young girls. Prison. Have machineguns. Prison. Think of it. Prison. This is a horrible CUNTry. Like every western cu...
[11:20:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't embarrass the Government - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:20:01] <exec> 08└─> and refused plea bargains, the criminal justice system would literally fall apart. No, they would just start extrajudicial executing men. This is a woman's country, a feminist state. They will not take the heel off our knecks no matter what. I really hope for an invasion. I hate this country.
[11:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Prosecution for what now? - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:20:12] <exec> 08└─He wanted to ruge Congress to reform to campaign finance laws for real. Can't have that.. how else would politicians get-rich-quick ? ;-)
[11:20:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The ONLY solution is armed retribution. - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:20:14] <exec> 08└─There needs to be an armed revolution. Then the people running/controling the government and the agencies need to be tortured until they are dead: For CPS stealing men's children. For all the men in prison for feminist crimes (sex with young girls (first things the feminists banned), marital rape, r...
[11:20:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quantum theory is weird. - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:20:25] <exec> 08└─There is an infinite amount of integers but that does not mean that it is not only possible but probable that one of those integers is an under-watered hydrangea.
[11:24:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Johnny Cab from Total Recall - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:24:22] <exec> 08└─ou may have decreased the total number of cars, but you have increased the total number of miles driven daily and thus the number of cars on the road.
[11:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Getting caught and paying the fine - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:26:01] <exec> 08└─Yeah this is how to steal and get away with it. Just like those fraudulent phone service charges- I got charged for something I didn't order/ask for. I got a refund when I complained but if they'd make a profit if they did this to a million people and just refunded to whoever complained. https://en....
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[12:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Inevitable Quote :- - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:38] <exec> 08└─Kansas had better stop raising corn and start raising hell.
[12:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03francois.barbier [651] (Score:2) 02Light - 06Ceres Bright Spots Seen Closer Than Ever - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:46] <exec> 08└─While looking at the picture though, I was having trouble with the perspective on the craters. If I invert/negative the image, the spots are of course black, but the craters look like craters. What gives?
[12:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Ceres is Planet Anus - 06Ceres Bright Spots Seen Closer Than Ever - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:48] <exec> 08└─Stick your hand into the Holy Asshole, and if it lights up, you will receive the Sign of the Brown Ring.
[12:20:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03nyder [4525] 02Don't embarrass the Government - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 466 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:20:07] <exec> 08└─I imagine they will keep piling on stupid charges and keep raising the amount of time they are going to threaten him with, since this is how they do business. They will freeze his assets so he can't defend himself, paint as a traitor and try to get him to plea bargain something for them. Guess they...
[12:20:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pTamok [3042] 02Re:Hoping for trial and nullification - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 1731 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:15] <exec> 08└─I think it is useful that the prosecution itemise all the charges so ordinary folk can see just how many over-reaching laws there are. He is technically guilty on many counts, and this is a problem with 'strict liability' laws - it captures the inadvertantly guilty as well as those where a 'mens rea...
[12:20:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Go ahead and RAISE AN ARMY then. - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:25] <exec> 08└─Too bad for you that everyone is already busy eating bread and watching circuses.
[12:20:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Outdated justice system - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 1071 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:20:26] <exec> 08└─While being one the of oldest extant democracies gives America bragging rights, it also has the downside that it is settled with some fairly outdated models of government. In many more modern justice systems this sort of "heaping on" of charges was recognized and corrected by clamping the punishment...
[12:20:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dogeball [814] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Quantum theory is weird. - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:39] <exec> 08└─To make a meaningful counterexample: In the infinite set of integers it is neither possible nor probable that there are three primes of the form p, p+2, p+4.
[12:20:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quantum theory is weird. - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:40] <exec> 08└─Well, OK, I fucked up the specific example. But then, the point should be obvious anyway. Just take p, p+1, p+2 instead.
[12:20:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Quantum theory IS Fraudulent - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:49] <exec> 08└─It IS fraudulent because Quantum theory was proposed by the Illuminati as a way to obfuscate the true simplicity of Real Physics in order to insure that only their chosen members would be in possession of the actual truth. Full understanding of Real Physics would provide far more power to the masses...
[12:20:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02confusing use of the word 'real' - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:20:59] <exec> 08└─This is all more than a little confusing to me, because I learned long ago (possibly erroneously) that quantum chemists were the ones who worked with the non-relativistic time-independent Schrödinger equation (assuming the atoms don't move very much) and real wavefunctions (you can always make a ba...
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[13:19:23] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] 02Effectively a $20 limit. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 651 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:24] <exec> 08└─Most ATMs that I've been to in the US will only let you withdraw money in increments of $20. (I've occasionally run into an ATM that will dispense two different denominations of bills; usually that's been $20 and $10 but the most recent one - near my workplace - is now dispensing $50 and $20 bills.)...
[13:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Business Opportunity? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:25] <exec> 08└─The legislature placed a daily cap of $25 on cash withdrawals beginning July 1, which will force beneficiaries to make more frequent trips to the ATM to withdraw money from the debit cards used to pay public assistance benefits. Since there's a fee for every withdrawal, the limit means that some fa...
[13:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Business Opportunity? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:19:26] <exec> 08└─Plenty of people I know sell their excess food stamps for 50-75% of the value, and that's probably what will happen here. Those with cash who don't want it tied to an account for whatever reason use the card, and everybody benefits except the ATM company.
[13:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:28] <exec> 08└─Why not just purchise the stuff with the card itself and avoid the fees. Even wal-mart has cashback option with purchuses.
[13:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:19:30] <exec> 08└─Exactly; for most anything I can conceive of that is a reasonable use of welfare benefits, the vast majority of merchants will process a debit transaction for no cost. I would expect legitimate cases of cash withdrawals of welfare benefits would be pretty limited, but I concede that I could be missi...
[13:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02(Ab)use the bank orifice? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:31] <exec> 08└─Accumulate money on the account. Then visit the bank office and withdraw all of it in one go. Once per week or so?
[13:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:(Ab)use the bank orifice? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:19:33] <exec> 08└─It's a gigantic hassle to get cash off of one of these cards without an ATM, and most people will be turned away by the tellers or turned off by the number of hoops they have to jump through. Cash back at the store is always an option though, I've noticed that a lot of grocery stores have upped thei...
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[13:19:40] <exec> 08└─I think this might be more likely, because if ice was able to survive in that crater, why haven't we spotted any other in the other craters? Would think there would be more, but what do I know? What I do know is I can't wait to find out, can't wait for some of these new probes & stuff to get to the...
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[13:19:42] <exec> 08└─We will hopefully soon find out, DAWN has a spectrometer [nasa.gov] on board. Also there are apparently more craters with bright spots, as can be seen in this animated gif [nasa.gov] from May 11th. I think it is amazing that every single celestial body we start to take a closer look at seems to have...
[13:20:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't embarrass the Government - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:20:04] <exec> 08└─Jury Nullification.
[13:20:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Hoping for trial and nullification - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 389 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:09] <exec> 08└─The way the prosecutors pile on charges is just embarrassing. Really, shouldn't they just have to "pick one"? It's all meant to force someone to plea bargain, so that the government doesn't actually have to prove its case. I hope he gets piles of pro bono help, and forces this to trial. Of course, h...
[13:20:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kaszz [4211] 02Aaron Swartz prosecution style again - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 266 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:16] <exec> 08└─This smells Aaron Swartz case, overzealous prosecution [wikipedia.org] a long way.. If this civilization fails, this is will be one contributing factor. Namely punishing people doing acts to improve society. Just study control systems with faulty feedback mechanism.
[13:20:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Outdated justice system - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:20:22] <exec> 08└─That sounds much better, but I rankle at the suggestion that this guy needs rehabilitation. It is our political system that needs rehab.
[13:20:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dumbass editorializing - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:24] <exec> 08└─rts008: So nobody but you calls him "Cannon Balls"? Any why is this in the summary? vindictiveness from our government seems the norm these days,
[13:20:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:20:40] <exec> 08└─We still don't have a grand unified theory yet.
[13:20:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 721 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:20:46] <exec> 08└─The bigger problem is that you don't really understand science in the grand scheme of things. Real science is highly technical and very nuanced. You need to talk in very precise language. It is people like you who demand sweeping generalizations, then run around crying the emperor has no clothes bec...
[13:21:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:2) 02damn it - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:14] <exec> 08└─Argh. Motherfuckers. Bah
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[13:23:06] <exec> 08└─who's the intended law-abiding target of this proposal?
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[14:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:16] <exec> 08└─Another black man is being targeted by the racist police! He's a victim of profiling! The Man planted that DNA! We need to protest! Where's Al and Jesse, yo?
[14:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:17] <exec> 08└─You forgot to mention "parallel construction". That's the new, hip thing to bring into any topic that mentions police if you want to try to sound +1 Insightful. We needed something new ever since oligarchy is not as hip as it used to be here. Ad hominem is still strong (perhaps someday we'll get to...
[14:30:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:3, Funny) 02Already under arrest - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:19] <exec> 08└─If you go to the first link, it says he was already arrested in DC. One thing that this crime has taught me is to always eat your pizza crust. Leave no evidence uneaten. Or something like that.
[14:30:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Gruesome way to go... - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:20] <exec> 08└─Getting whacked, by Pizza the Hutt! Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
[14:30:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Three words - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:22] <exec> 08└─Dough!!! Dough? D'oh!
[14:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Effectively a $20 limit. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 2876 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:31] <exec> 08└─Walmart and other major retailers who depend on days like Black Friday to shore up their yearly revenues are going to be pissed off with legislators for effectively limiting their clientelle to $20 dollars on those days. Think about what kind of person waits in line at 3AM at a walmart? Usually poor...
[14:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:36] <exec> 08└─Can you pay your rent with a debit card? how about paying a one time babysitter so you can go to a job interview? Or give your child some money when they go on a class trip? This isn't talking about food stamp type things to buy but for families in need.
[14:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:38] <exec> 08└─Also stores don't want to have to deal in cash, as credit is much less likely to be stolen, and easier to recover if it is.
[14:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03compro01 [2515] (Score:2) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:40] <exec> 08└─Cash-only businesses like farmers' markets, etc.
[14:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:41] <exec> 08└─Right, like there's a produce stand on every corner in Compton, South-East DC, and Bed-Stuy.
[14:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:(Ab)use the bank orifice? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:43] <exec> 08└─Having never tried the get some cash option when I use my credit card I have wondered if it is just treated as part of the transaction or as a cash advance? I would initially assume that it is treated as just part of the purchase but don't know and if wrong don't want to pay the cash advance charges...
[14:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Pros and cons - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 1268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:44] <exec> 08└─Dunno, I can see both sides of this one... - On the one hand, these people are adults, and should be not only trusted but expected to handle their own affairs. The government already spends far too much time telling people how to live. This kind of micromanagement is just uncalled for. - On the othe...
[14:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What circumstances require cash? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:46] <exec> 08└─This isn't facetious or attempting to troll... I'm seriously wondering: For someone on public assistance, what are the legitimate reasons that person/family might require cash money? What transactions cannot be completed by direct debit? I remember fifteen or so years ago up in Washington state that...
[14:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What circumstances require cash? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:48] <exec> 08└─Rent, Babysitters (Highschool/Collage Age/Neighbors), Some farmers markets, Garage Sales
[14:30:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Withdrawal fee - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:49] <exec> 08└─there's a fee for every withdrawal
[14:30:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02What??? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:51] <exec> 08└─Since there's a fee for every withdrawal, the limit means that some families will get substantially less money.
[14:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What??? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:52] <exec> 08└─Hell in the US you will pay not only the ATM for the privilege but you will pay your own bank as well. Standard ATM fees are 2-3 bucks for the ATM and 2-3 bucks for the bank. I have seen the ATM charge as much as 8 dollars before though, as many people don't pay attention and just hit accept. You ca...
[14:30:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Abuse of welfare - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:54] <exec> 08└─I've seen welfare recipients driving MBZs buy lobster, steak, and other fancy foods with food stamps. Then others who sell their stamps to buy drugs or booze.
[14:31:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03francois.barbier [651] 02Light - 06Ceres Bright Spots Seen Closer Than Ever - 204 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:00] <exec> 08└─While looking at the picture though, I was having trouble with the perspective on the craters. If I invert/negative the image, the spots are of course black, but the craters look like craters. What gives?
[14:31:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Craters - 06Ceres Bright Spots Seen Closer Than Ever - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:02] <exec> 08└─If I invert/negative the image, the spots are of course black, but the craters look like craters. What gives?
[14:31:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Hoping for trial and nullification - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 60 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:31] <exec> 08└─if there was ever a case for jury nullification, this is it.
[14:31:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Quantum theory is weird. - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:58] <exec> 08└─3,5,7 is the only set that satisfies that condition, and the proof is easy. For all sets of 3 natural numbers of the form n, n+2, and n+4, one of those is divisible by 3. Mod 3 of such a set always yields 0,1,2. Not much different than the observation that 2 is the only even prime number.
[14:32:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:32:08] <exec> 08└─You fell victim to new-age hocus focus quantum this relativictic that. Take a basic course on QM and you'd be better equipped to smell out the bullshit in pop media.
[14:32:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02School days - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:32:20] <exec> 08└─After earning my bachelor's engineering degree, I started down the path toward a masters in applied physics. It was exactly the kinds of questions this article discusses which sent me screaming back to the engineering department after a single semester. Even applied physics seemed far to intangible...
[14:33:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Just imagine it.. - 06China to Spend $182 Billion on Network Infrastructure - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:33:01] <exec> 08└─Everyone will be able to reach the Great Firewall with a ping time in low milliseconds, and then ....?
[14:33:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02Very important question - 06The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:33:15] <exec> 08└─Given the device's name, does it come in a giant Kinder egg wrapped in a pair of dungarees?
[14:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:So will this translate to a new source of power - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:33:34] <exec> 08└─When I think of this type of article mostly graphene and carbon nanotubes come to mind. I believe real applications of those materials are starting to (excuse the pun) materialize. Yes, the tone of the article is hyperbolic, but new materials can and do lead to real advances in manufacturing. It jus...
[14:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:That's one jargon-laden abstract - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 884 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:33:41] <exec> 08└─The Editor's summary with the article is a little more approachable: Typical ferromagnets elongate and contract anistropically when placed in a magnetic field, a phenomenon known as magnetostriction that was first identified by James Joule. The effect is the result of magnetic domain rotation causi...
[14:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:34:12] <exec> 08└─Which, despite what was said above, makes it a security measure. Part of what you want to keep secure is the ability to access its resources. (It can also be used for honeypotting, which as a kind of intrusion detection can improve security against dumb attackers. But you should never assume the att...
[14:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make a booby trap - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:34:23] <exec> 08└─Surprising amount of Apache changes you have to enable to get such a si
[14:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:34:44] <exec> 08└─What's preventing anyone to make secret deals about anything else that's illegal, be it drug smuggling, illegal gambling, or contract killing?
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[15:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Papas Fritas [570] (Score:2) 02Re:Already under arrest - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:15] <exec> 08└─At the time the story was submitted (7:20 pm CST) the suspect had not yet been apprehended. This is something I have seen news operations do before that I really don't agree with. They keep the same URL but they change the content of the story. If a news organization changes the content of the story...
[15:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:1) 02Re:Gruesome way to go... - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:17] <exec> 08└─Or, fallen like a Domino.
[15:30:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Essential Element of Jealousy - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:20] <exec> 08└─I can't help but think there was some essential element of jealousy in the degree of brutality here. A more rational criminal would know the police look a lot harder for multiple murderers than robbers. In other news, it pays to be armed at all times, even inside your own home. Too bad DC doesn't be...
[15:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Inevitable Quote :- - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:30] <exec> 08└─Since I don't know I need to ask, what is that quote from? I know Nebraska as the corn state and Kansas for wheat.
[15:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Business Opportunity? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:35] <exec> 08└─Easier still - get them to hand over their card and PIN and authorization, do the daily withdrawals yourself and hand them a lump sum every now and then (minus a small fee of course). It's up to you how much risk you are willing to take on giving them an "advance". See how wonderful this legislation...
[15:30:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:42] <exec> 08└─Maybe there isn't, but this article is about Kansas. Not sure what relevance Washington DC, NYC and Los Angeles. People need to remember not everyone lives in the same environment they do with the same facilities they have.
[15:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:43] <exec> 08└─Farmer's market in Compton. [metro.net]
[15:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:45] <exec> 08└─The article suggests that people affected by this usually have little option but to pay their rent and utility bills in cash as they do not meet the criteria for a normal bank account.
[15:30:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Withdrawal fee - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 1015 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:52] <exec> 08└─Want to skip the withdraw fee? It is *dead* easy to do. Nearly every bank does it too. Go inside. It is a bit more hassle but there is almost never a fee on the teller. The ATM was supposed to reduce their costs. But they did not incentivize it correctly. At my bank there is usually a line at the AT...
[15:30:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03lil'wombat [1664] (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:Abuse of welfare - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:56] <exec> 08└─Was the MBZ used or new? Was the lobster on sale? Should we require anyone on public assistance to sell all of their possession, wear sack cloth, subsisting only on gruel? Maybe we can require that they never have anything nice ever until they've paid back their debt to society? Perhaps we could bea...
[15:30:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Abuse of welfare - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:57] <exec> 08└─Fuck Kansas, fuck the republicans, and fuck these so-called Christian conservatives. And being a bigot towards them really gets them to change their minds? Am I right? If you could just be a bigger jerk maybe they would listen to you.
[15:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Abuse of welfare - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:59] <exec> 08└─Are you and the other troll voters idiots? These slugs are mostly non-white, pumping out kids for bigger welfare benefits, and splurging at taxpayers expense.
[15:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Abuse of welfare - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:01] <exec> 08└─I took stamps when in college as a kind of education grant. Ate more steak than any other time of my life. The amount they gave us was ridiculously large but not the max possible. The program is administered very poorly and the benefits abused. If you don't have a plan to break out you will become a...
[15:31:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Collective punishment, much? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:02] <exec> 08└─"at liquor stores, cigarette shops, strip joints. Casinos was another. There was a $102 [withdrawal] from a person in Colorado at a Rockies baseball game. "
[15:31:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Collective punishment, much? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:04] <exec> 08└─Well, if you go after specific instances of welfare fraud you are reported as a racist bigot.
[15:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:2) 02Re:Metal? - 06Ceres Bright Spots Seen Closer Than Ever - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:12] <exec> 08└─That gif is incredible. I love living in the future.
[15:31:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02not gewgy enough - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 185 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:23] <exec> 08└─ITYM: Vanessa Perez was previously convicted of absentee ballot fraud (along with dozens of others) *benefitting a Republican-affiliated candidate* after Miami's infamous 1997 election.
[15:31:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Hoping for trial and nullification - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:46] <exec> 08└─Judges can block the use of the nullification defense, preventing you from even mentioning it during the trial.
[15:31:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02really dumb waste of taxpayers' money - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:56] <exec> 08└─"US jail system spends $45,000 a year per prisoner but refuses to buy prisoners books." http://boingboing.net [boingboing.net] "What I learned about leadership when I interviewed the biggest drug dealer in history"
[15:32:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 1851 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:32:25] <exec> 08└─A physical theory being "realist" does not mean it agrees with reality. I can make realist theories which do not in any way relate to our observations (those are obviously not good theories, as they are falsified by observation, but "realist" and good are orthogonal to each other). A physical theory...
[15:32:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:confusing use of the word 'real' - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:32:34] <exec> 08└─Physicists or chemists use the most convenient form of the equation that is applicable to what they're studying, so it really isn't broken down by discipline, but by what they're studying.
[15:32:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03everdred [110] (Score:2) 02Re:I hate smartphones - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:32:46] <exec> 08└─Tasker is delightful. Its power makes working past the confusing UI totally worth it.
[15:32:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Slow today - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:32:54] <exec> 08└─Anyone else's phone running slow today?
[15:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Make a booby trap - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:34:42] <exec> 08└─I store all the good stuff in my home directory I keep all my stuff in /TMP/Backup/Old C Drive/user/AC/desktop/Prev comp/HDRIVEBACKUP/USB Backup/CF.BAK/test/test2/xyz/Backup of D drive/temp~3/games/nothing/PICS.ARJ
[15:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:Trust the Computer - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:35] <exec> 08└─Rather obscure, but wonderful.
[15:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:Bright line tests vs Balancing tests - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:39] <exec> 08└─A wise friend of mine once noted that no bureaucracy can work without the presence of people capable of breaking the rules.
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[16:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Link to article about marriage - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:11] <exec> 08└─Link to an article about the marriage [businessinsider.com] He sounds like a really charming guy. If Western feminists want to actually make a difference in the world, they ought to go after abuses like this. Heck, the British Queen goes out of her way to make the point to these barbarians; [indepen...
[16:30:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Classic - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:12] <exec> 08└─Blame the messenger that a society acts like a bunch of savages. And the answer? More savagery.
[16:30:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin... - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:13] <exec> 08└─This sounds like the same old goofy shit that happens in 3rd world countries with tinpot dictators all the time. Perhaps it is more interesting that it is getting coverage in the west at all. Maybe that has something to do with the falling out between Putin and this 'ally.' Security services told to...
[16:30:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:15] <exec> 08└─Magomed Daudov said: "It all has to be in keeping with Sharia: But if a man can support more than one wife, then why not?"
[16:30:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:25] <exec> 08└─Ad hominem is still strong (perhaps someday we'll get to see that one used correctly).
[16:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:26] <exec> 08└─ever since oligarchy is not as hip as it used to be
[16:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 809 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:28] <exec> 08└─No, around here "intelligent" words certainly come and go in fads. Oligarchy was real hot a while back. It is sort of like that co-worker who gets a "Word-A-Day" calendar for Christmas and goes out of his way to show off his newly found words. One or two get selected and pushed hard until he loses i...
[16:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:29] <exec> 08└─You forgot to mention "parallel construction". That's the new, hip thing to bring into any topic that mentions police if you want to try to sound +1 Insightful.
[16:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:31] <exec> 08└─I like how you decided to get up really early on a Friday morning and broadcast to the world that you don't understand current events.
[16:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02DNA gets around easily - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:36] <exec> 08└─It is easy for DNA to spread around. Maybe it's not plausible in this case, but people who think DNA evidence is foolproof are mistaken, even if the analysis was done correctly and there was no contamination (another risk).
[16:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Inevitable Quote :- - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:46] <exec> 08└─I know Kansas to be the windiest state because Oklahoma sucks and Nebraska blows.
[16:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:55] <exec> 08└─In developed countries you can. You can also use your debit card in the store and withdraw cash at the same time in one transaction
[16:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:57] <exec> 08└─Perhaps, but we're talking about the US.
[16:31:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:31:03] <exec> 08└─If you'd read the article, you'd know: $1 per transaction fee from the card administration program.
[16:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:31:05] <exec> 08└─Most of these cards are "bank cards" not debit and can not be used for a purchase OR they charge a heavier fee to use as a debit card.
[16:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:(Ab)use the bank orifice? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:31:08] <exec> 08└─(This may apply only to the US and non-EMV cards, my information is a couple years out of date at this point.) Only Discover allows cash back as part of a normal credit card purchase. For the other networks (Visa, MasterCard, American Express), you must do a separate transaction that is specifically...
[16:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Pros and cons - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:31:10] <exec> 08└─I have had personal experience with welfare, albeit brief. It gives me a different perspective on this meme: tax dollars are the collective wallet of the the taxpayers, so welfare can have any conditions attached to it that the taxpayers want. Don't like it? Get off welfare.
[16:31:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Abuse of welfare - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:31:20] <exec> 08└─I might be able to take you seriously if the government of Kansas wasn't bankrupt do to Republicans' inability to accept that they are wrong and that their policies actually have the opposite of the intended effect.
[16:31:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Collective punishment, much? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 790 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:31:25] <exec> 08└─There's actually a much better solution to this, but understanding it involves knowing some of the technical details of how credit and debit cards work. In the messaging between the store and the card issuing institution, there's a field for the Merchant Category Code (MCC). It would be pretty easy...
[16:32:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Dumbass editorializing - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:32:20] <exec> 08└─A fly came buzzing around me, therefore it deserves to die. A peaceful protest in which authorities were warned beforehand, should carry a fine (and suspended sentence, to ward off copycats) for flying in a crowded/sensitive area and not respecting the "peaceful protest safety" regulations. He shoul...
[16:32:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Comments on charges - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:32:22] <exec> 08└─one count each of operating as an airman without an airman's certificate and violating registration requirements involving aircraft
[16:32:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02List of Grievances - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:32:24] <exec> 08└─We really ought to documenting all this sort of thing and compiling it into a list for the Second Declaration of Independence. I feel we have a really, really robust list to inveigh against the king's men here. The way this government is going after this man for a peaceful act of protest reeks of pu...
[16:32:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 973 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:32:49] <exec> 08└─You completely failed to read/understand what I wrote. As I very clearly state, there is nothing wrong with QM. I cast no stones, and in fact the very example you appear to have misread or misinterpreted was included specifically because of the direct success of predictions made by QM. It appears yo...
[16:32:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:32:51] <exec> 08└─Which is... exactly what I did. And I have. Methinks you failed to read or understand what I wrote.
[16:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Hmm - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:24] <exec> 08└─Can we burn Ft. Mead to the ground yet?
[16:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:So will this translate to a new source of power - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:34:23] <exec> 08└─You're right that they don't generate discussion the way that articles about software and related subjects do, because most of the SN community have more depth to talk about the latter than about the former. But I still do appreciate those who do have chops commenting on the former. It's one of the...
[16:37:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 3879 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:38] <exec> 08└─Well, this is the larger problem of bureaucracy, but I think your situation is more hopeful than what TFS mentioned. The clerk has no more power than the form on the screen. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the clerk was using that same form. The question I would have is why didn't she escalate t...
[16:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:39] <exec> 08└─The only reason decision-makers get separated from the consequences .. is because we let them throw their hands up and say “It's too technical!"
[16:38:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:And they wonder why I don't use it... - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:36] <exec> 08└─Uhhh...you DO know its REALLY easy to use Paypal and never have to worry about this kinda shit, right? Just pick up a one time use credit card when you want to use Paypal and only use that card and you don't have to worry about any bullshit.
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[17:30:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:12] <exec> 08└─Be careful. You will piss off the libertarian nerds since that same argument can be made about any resource.
[17:30:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:13] <exec> 08└─How about : because there are already not enough nubile young women in the world to go round the young men seeking them
[17:30:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:15] <exec> 08└─> The reason is that nearly every woman wants to marry. This is caused by her need to have a child, and that requires significant financial and other support. > I, personally, never met a man who'd be dreaming of marriage. Another unintentionally revealing post by a misogynist. Most men want to have...
[17:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 1868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:17] <exec> 08└─Gettin' bitches is really easy - Don't look like shit and be a little aggressive. One of the biggest complaints from women I date in the U.S. is that too many men are passive and effeminate. These are good-looking women who would date a slob like me and would also date the guy you replied to if he c...
[17:30:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Informative) 02not a fan - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:19] <exec> 08└─The president Ramzan Kadyrov is quoted as saying "I have the right to criticize my wife. She doesn’t. With us [in Chechen society], a wife is a housewife. A woman should know her place. A woman should give her love to us [men]... She would be [man’s] property. And the man is the owner. Here, if...
[17:30:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Never thought of it before . . . - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:20] <exec> 08└─Really, it never crossed my mind before. But, yes, it appears that Chechnya does indeed have it's share of douchebags.
[17:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:33] <exec> 08└─I like how you decided to get up really early on a Friday morning and broadcast to the world that you don't understand current events.
[17:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Essential Element of Jealousy - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:42] <exec> 08└─In other news, it pays to be armed at all times, even inside your own home. Too bad DC doesn't believe in liberty.
[17:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:11] <exec> 08└─> Right, like there's a produce stand on every corner in Compton, South-East DC, and Bed-Stuy. Farmers Market Bedford Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, NY [yelp.com]
[17:31:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pros and cons - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:21] <exec> 08└─So, those are the two sides I see here: tax dollars are the collective wallet of the the taxpayers, so welfare can have any conditions attached to it that the taxpayers want. Don't like it? Get off welfare.
[17:31:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Withdrawal fee - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:26] <exec> 08└─Want to skip the withdraw fee? It is *dead* easy to do. Nearly every bank does it too. Go inside. It is a bit more hassle but there is almost never a fee on the teller.
[17:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Abuse of welfare - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:36] <exec> 08└─> The amount they gave us was ridiculously large but not the max possible. maximum monthly allotment for 1-person household: $194 [usda.gov]
[17:31:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03monster [1260] (Score:2) 02So a Corralito - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:40] <exec> 08└─So, it's effectively a Corralito [wikipedia.org], but just for the poor.
[17:32:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disproportionate amount of hassle - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:20] <exec> 08└─The most official way to unofficially say "we are fascist" is to pile up charges against normal people who dare criticizing authorities.
[17:32:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:List of Grievances - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:40] <exec> 08└─The way this government is going after this man for a peaceful act of protest reeks of public intimidation and the behavior of a tyrannical system served by out-of-control prosecutors. It makes a mockery of justice.
[17:32:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cannon Balls - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:32:41] <exec> 08└─I don't think calling him "cannon balls" is a particularly helpful show of admiration for someone the government is desperately search for any possible reason to classify as an enemy combatant. Next thing you know he will be charged with firearms violations.
[17:32:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03halcyon1234 [1082] (Score:2) 02Gyrocopter attack! - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:32:43] <exec> 08└─What's with the massive overreaction to a Gyrocopter? Are they actually afraid of a gyrocopter attack? Unless you're trying to hijack a post-apocalyptic oil tanker in Australia, you are under no threat of death by gyrocopter.
[17:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:I hate smartphones - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:33:35] <exec> 08└─That's pretty cool, but my main gripe is not that smartphones don't have enough functionality, it's that they have too much (duplicate and/or malicious and/or sloppy) functionality.
[17:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Slow today - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:33:44] <exec> 08└─As it happens, Firefox on my Nexus 5 was running very slowly this morning. No, I'm not trying to burn Firefox...typically I have no complaints
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[18:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:27] <exec> 08└─Ethanol is ever classy.
[18:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:28] <exec> 08└─I want a child and my wife doesn't. You are painting with a very wide brush.
[18:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:29] <exec> 08└─I want a child and my wife doesn't.
[18:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 2817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:31] <exec> 08└─The reason is that nearly every woman wants to marry. This is caused by her need to have a child, and that requires significant financial and other support. However not every man wants to marry. This is a bunch of sexist, misogynist crap. There's tons of women who don't want to marry, or are just s...
[18:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:32] <exec> 08└─That's like saying it's not OK to be rich because there are poor people.
[18:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a good example - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 1088 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:34] <exec> 08└─I read the translated article and the journalist didn't say the bride was unwilling. One of the bride's friends said the bride was unwilling. I couldn't find any quote from a family member. In-fact i saw the exact opposite. No journalist has been given access to the father or grandfather. Underage m...
[18:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a good example - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:36] <exec> 08└─The thing is: even if a journalist had talked to a male family member, who would believe him? It is entirely normal for fathers in Islamic culture to marry their daughters off. Whether or not the daughter wants married off is not a factor in the equation. I mean, who asks property what it wants? Wom...
[18:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a good example - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:37] <exec> 08└─It's curious, of course, how different their customs are from a typical Christian, Western way of life. But they have their right to peacefully live as they want, don't they?
[18:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:This is a good example - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:39] <exec> 08└─Whether they're "living in peace" when they kill their own wives for dishonoring them (see above) is rather debatable.
[18:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:not a fan - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 740 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:40] <exec> 08└─I'd buy him a beer. He comes from a society that values a strong family and understands the proper place of women in that family. Contrast that with American society -- You let women say whatever they want to say and do whatever they want to do and now you're liable for raising another man's kid [hu...
[18:30:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:not a fan - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:42] <exec> 08└─In case you didn't know, you get half of her stuff too : ) Better to have a pre-nup.
[18:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:not a fan - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:44] <exec> 08└─Contrast that with American society -- You let women say whatever they want to say and do whatever they want to do... Imagine that, the Constitution of the US actually applies to everyone!
[18:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:1) 02Re:Never thought of it before . . . - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:45] <exec> 08└─Yes. Chechnya vs. Russia is a bit like Syria vs. ISIS.
[18:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:58] <exec> 08└─Ha! With a nitpick like that I'm betting you're a Slashdot veteran.
[18:31:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Already under arrest - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:02] <exec> 08└─When did Dominoes start selling pizza?
[18:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Essential Element of Jealousy - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:08] <exec> 08└─We have a right to commit suicide, do we not?
[18:31:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Effectively a $20 limit. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:24] <exec> 08└─Most ATMs that I've been to in the US will only let you withdraw money in increments of $20. (I've occasionally run into an ATM that will dispense two different denominations of bills; usually that's been $20 and $10 but the most recent one - near my workplace - is now dispensing $50 and $20 bills.)...
[18:31:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:Effectively a $20 limit. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:25] <exec> 08└─The extra $5 is so you can pay the ATM fee when you pull out $20...
[18:31:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 1035 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:35] <exec> 08└─I've yet to see *anywhere* in the US that will put rent on a debit card. Check or maybe credit. And there's always a (fairly high) processing fee for credit. Babysitters are generally going to be some college kid. Random college kids usually can't process debit cards. There are also still a number o...
[18:31:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:38] <exec> 08└─Also stores don't want to have to deal in cash, as credit is much less likely to be stolen, and easier to recover if it is.
[18:31:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:47] <exec> 08└─Possibly because a) you might not want the government to know where (or on what) you're spending their money, either because you're misuing it or you just like your privacy, and b) there are some perfectly valid living expenses that cash is going to be a lot more convenient for.
[18:31:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02So? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 1314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:48] <exec> 08└─So? You have a point but it is unimportant. The big one is mindset and yours is obviously the defective one. You operate under the assumption that welfare is a right and thus they have a right to object at the government impairing it. Wrong, they are getting alms and beggars can't be picky. There is...
[18:31:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:Pros and cons - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 275 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:54] <exec> 08└─I have had personal experience with welfare, albeit brief. It gives me a different perspective on this meme: tax dollars are the collective wallet of the the taxpayers, so welfare can have any conditions attached to it that the taxpayers want. Don't like it? Get off welfare.
[18:32:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Abuse of welfare - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:08] <exec> 08└─Depending on when he did that and where he lived that would be very doable if you skipped other meals. In my area a 1lb ribeye is 10-15 each and can be split into 2 meals. Where my parents live? Its about 5-10 each. Better if you catch it on sale. Not a very balanced diet. But doable.
[18:32:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Re:Degenerating? - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:31] <exec> 08└─Not really. They got caught. In a totally broken system, no-one gets in trouble for being corrupt.
[18:32:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not gewgy enough - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:34] <exec> 08└─Vanessa Perez was previously convicted of absentee ballot fraud (along with dozens of others) *benefitting a Republican-affiliated candidate* after Miami's infamous 1997 election.
[18:32:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02managing one's money - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:32:37] <exec> 08└─All these clients with fatally flawed credit still had $1500 laying around to buy a false police report?
[18:33:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03gtomorrow [2230] (Score:1) 02Re:List of Grievances - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:14] <exec> 08└─The way this government is going after this man for a peaceful act of protest...
[18:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Distraction - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 1355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:17] <exec> 08└─Talking about this moron's fate is merely a distraction from the bigger, more embarrassing question of why the moron is still breathing. DC is supposed to be closed airspace. DC is Capital City, it is said to be impregnable, all seeing, all knowing, all wise. One idiot on a gyrocopter flies right in...
[18:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:46] <exec> 08└─Calm down, fool - you got mixed up who's responding to whom.
[18:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:2) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:48] <exec> 08└─you, too, can experimentally verify the wavefunction is a real thing with as little as a laser pointer and two pieces of cut and polished glass. I have those things! Please tell me more!
[18:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02taking stuff a-part is fun - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 1123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:01] <exec> 08└─read the article and positively luv the pretty pictures! wikipedia definitely needs more pictures and diagrams like that too! anyways i was just wondering how the electron beam is created that then is "pure and free" from all influences to then revel to us the famous quantum menchnical interference...
[18:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:1) 02this guy's a joke - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:02] <exec> 08└─We have experimentally verified quantum theory too many times to count. Ever heard of the double-slit experiment?
[18:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:I hate smartphones - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:17] <exec> 08└─I rarely complain about too much choice.
[18:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Google Play - 06NSA Plan to Hack Smartphones Using Google and Samsung App Stores - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:21] <exec> 08└─If they did then the NSA wouldn't have to resort to what amounts to hacking Google to accomplish this.
[18:36:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nice - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:36:55] <exec> 08└─Coal is only the cheapest because its monetary cost isn't its full cost. If I steal stuff from my friends, its completely free to me, that means I should only steal stuff if I'm looking to acquire things for as cheap as possible. This, too, ignores the harm it directly causes to others. Just because...
[18:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:End the fossil fuel subsidies - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:14] <exec> 08└─If you or any group doesn't want a coal company to basically level a mountain you could buy the damn mountain, the mineral rights, or what ever is needed to prevent it.
[18:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lots of assumptions... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:29] <exec> 08└─By the time their study talks about (2040-2060) I would expect solar to play a huge role in summertime power generation in the American West.
[18:39:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:39:11] <exec> 08└─i think you might've misunderstood the argument. i don't think he's suggesting to do away with money entirely, it is indeed far too useful, and something will always exist as an abstract holder of value, so 'getting rid of money' would be an exercise in futility. we do, however, need to get money ou...
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[19:30:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Watch that video - 06Net Neutrality in India - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:11] <exec> 08└─Seriously. Watch that video. Then send it to any of your relatives who somehow doesn't know about Net Neutrality but can handle Indian accents.
[19:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 2706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:31] <exec> 08└─tftp wrote :- "The reason is that nearly every woman wants to marry. This is caused by her need to have a child,. .... only 91 employed man for every 100 women I don't know what country, culture or even what century you are living in, but you need to stop reading "Pride & Prejudice" - because the...
[19:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a good example - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:36] <exec> 08└─I think it would still matter even in that context. If the girl was property then the father's consent was absolutely required, not optional.
[19:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a good example - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:39] <exec> 08└─Forget you imaginary scenario-it does not exist, or apply to this case at all. If they were truly isolated, then we would not have even heard of this to be having this discussion. Since they are not isolated, the rest of the world can have an opinion about it. And the rest of the world can impose sa...
[19:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not a fan - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:45] <exec> 08└─I saw Kadyrov on TV, once. I was zapping around, came across "Grozny" TV and watched it for a bit. I couldn't understand it. The channel showed a session of the Chechnian government or parliament, Kadyrov was speaking. Everybody was wearing a funny hat. The camera occasionally panned to the other MP...
[19:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Good. I support him. - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:48] <exec> 08└─I hope he kills some (more) feminists too. Why didn't the friend marry a 7 yr old cute adorable girl tho. 17 is old. She won't last long looking good. Mohammed married a 6 yr old. King Richard a 7 yr old. Various other earls etc 9 yr olds etc. Young girls were within the reach of men. Deuteronomy 22...
[19:31:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Essential Element of Jealousy - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:14] <exec> 08└─Not according to a lot of people. They like to say that anyone who doesn't want to live is mentally unstable and has to be protected from themselves. So many cowards are so afraid of death that they can't accept that someone would want to choose to die as they please. Not everyone has a life worth l...
[19:31:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Essential Element of Jealousy - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 2517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:15] <exec> 08└─Out of curiosity, are you as vocal about the Mood Affiliation fallacy in the wake of mass shootings at movie theaters and schools? It's just as wrong for gun control advocates to ride the mood of a tragedy to justify stricter gun laws as it is for gun ownership proponents to ride the mood of a home...
[19:31:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Effectively a $20 limit. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 2132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:34] <exec> 08└─I thought it was to pay for the extra gas for the extra trips to the ATM? Unless they're smart enough to take out $20 at 11:59pm and then another $20 at 12:01am. In any case, those fees are quite often waived completely with coops, credit unions, and a minimum number of transactions. It's not the fe...
[19:31:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:51] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the one in Southeast DC [ward8farmersmarket.com] too.
[19:31:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:So? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:57] <exec> 08└─I had written a reply which expressed my surprise at reading your reply to my post, which I only wrote to raise some a couple of possible answers to someone's questions. But now I'm starting to wonder if you had, perhaps, clicked Reply on the wrong post, or had meant to post at the top level but acc...
[19:32:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:(Ab)use the bank orifice? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:32:03] <exec> 08└─Thanks I didn't know that. This may be why I see it all the time at larger retailers when I pay as I have a discover card and just run everything through it every month (I even put a car on it once when dealers still would let people do that). It also gets paid off (current outstanding balance, not...
[19:32:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Pros and cons - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 1268 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:04] <exec> 08└─Dunno, I can see both sides of this one... - On the one hand, these people are adults, and should be not only trusted but expected to handle their own affairs. The government already spends far too much time telling people how to live. This kind of micromanagement is just uncalled for. - On the othe...
[19:32:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Pros and cons - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:32:06] <exec> 08└─Seriously what state has that shitty welfare system? Seems like a great one for some journalist to expose and bring attention to. Although I don't think I could support a replacement system that was DeVry-like, but one that sent you off to the local community college, VoTech, trade school to actuall...
[19:33:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't embarrass the Government - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:05] <exec> 08└─With your views, I'm sure they would be happy for you to leave.
[19:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hoping for trial and nullification - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:10] <exec> 08└─>Wishing for a different legal system isn't going to get me very far. Killing for one might though. It is, infact, the one and only way. There is no substitute, and nothing else works. Nothing else at all.
[19:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Prosecution for what now? - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:19] <exec> 08└─People often don't even remember the truth about high-profile cases. Remember Lizzie Borden, who took an ax and gave her mother forty whacks, and then when she saw what she had done she gave her father forty one? She was found innocent.
[19:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Go ahead and RAISE AN ARMY then. - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:23] <exec> 08└─Well now that's the solution to the solution, aint it. Peasant revolts happen when the food runs out, not before. Or... No, YOU start an army. I'm a joiner, not a starter.
[19:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:List of Grievances - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:33] <exec> 08└─what would you do if someone [... landed a gyroscope on my lawn]
[19:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03gtomorrow [2230] (Score:1) 02Re:List of Grievances - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 826 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:35] <exec> 08└─With all due respect, if someone drove up onto your lawn, you'd be at least 1) cursing up a storm nine ways to Sunday and 2) on the phone to the cops if not 3) looking for that souvenir baseball bat from Opening Day. Therefore, racheting it up a few notches, you can see this is not a "tea and honest...
[19:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:List of Grievances - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:36] <exec> 08└─He landed it somewhere near congress, the mall, not the whitehouse.
[19:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03gtomorrow [2230] (Score:1) 02Re:List of Grievances - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:38] <exec> 08└─My mistake. He landed on the US Capitol west lawn. I stand corrected, Anonymous Coward.
[19:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Distraction - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:40] <exec> 08└─Talking about this moron's fate is merely a distraction from the bigger, more embarrassing question of why the moron is still breathing.
[19:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:00] <exec> 08└─If a Grand Unified Theory is impossible between Relativity and Quantum Theory, then both must be incorrect. This doesn't say what the replacement should look like, though. A Grand Unified Theory would have either Relativity swallowing Quantum Theory, or Quantum Theory swallowing Relativity...but it'...
[19:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:01] <exec> 08└─No, you are assuming a grand unified theory exists. If one doesn't exist, that doesn't say anything about quantum and relativity. The most compelling case that a GUT exists is purely on aesthetic grounds. We like simplicity and elegance in our theories.
[19:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:09] <exec> 08└─Are you sure you are responding to me, or did you mean to respond to the AC before me (the one who answered you directly)? You could help by reading my response to that AC and see that I am generally in agreement with you. However, you might need to read it three times to see that.
[19:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:14] <exec> 08└─I don't think he is viewing at the -1 level because he went off on me when I replied to the AC who is currently sitting at -1. Good to see he pops off on others too. I was starting to think it was just me he didn't like. Boy, with friends like that . . .
[19:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:16] <exec> 08└─Methinks you shouldn't so vocally cast aspersions on other's reading comprehension when you demonstrate multiple times that the comprehension issue is with yourself (Protip: make sure you can see ALL the comments AND WHO WROTE THEM before firing off condescending responses). Oh, and, er, ad hominem!...
[19:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:22] <exec> 08└─The real problem in speech is not precise language. The problem is clear language. The desire is to have the idea clearly communicated to the other person. It is only necessary to be precise when there is some doubt as to the meaning of a phrase, and then the precision should be put in the place whe...
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[20:30:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03plover [3826] (Score:1) 02Hiring - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:11] <exec> 08└─While reading this the hiring scene from Blazing Saddles seemed to fit quite well
[20:30:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Megahard [4782] (Score:2) 02More info - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:12] <exec> 08└─Here's the link to the actual document http://www.dni.gov [dni.gov] Like many other applications, it also asks about any convictions or jail time. But not clear in this case if that's a positive or negative qualification.
[20:30:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:More info - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:14] <exec> 08└─> Like many other applications, it also asks about any convictions or jail time. But not clear in this case if that's a positive or negative qualification. I suspect it depends on the nature of the offense.
[20:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More info - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:16] <exec> 08└─That link was already in the news story; it's "hidden" in the sentence starting with "It asks that applicants "answer the required information ...."
[20:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Sample question - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:17] <exec> 08└─Al-Faruq has 12 sticks of dynamite in his vest. El-waqui has 4 packs of C4. They trade 3 sticks of dynamite for 1 pack of C4. a) Did Al-Faruq's vest weight go up or down? b) How many infidels can each send to hell when you're a martyr?
[20:30:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Megahard [4782] (Score:2) 02Re:Sample question - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:19] <exec> 08└─You have two unmarked containers. One holds 5 liters, the other 3 liters. How do you measure out exactly 4 liters of gunpowder?
[20:30:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Doesn't seem that odd. - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 1804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:20] <exec> 08└─I don't see how this could really be all that surprising. After all, some of, these organizations control or have access to, many, thousands of members. That is somewhat beyond what most people can memorize so some form of bureaucracy is needed. But much like in many other organizations most of the...
[20:30:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sure...we trust this info. - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:22] <exec> 08└─Story sounds like more propaganda to make us believe an enemy exists. More likely this is all just made up. What does the application for the US military look like? Mass-murdering innocent people? Not a problem heh?
[20:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Watch that video - 06Net Neutrality in India - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:28] <exec> 08└─This! I thought the accents were part of the fun. And another interesting aspect is that just about everything they cover is exactly the same a here in the US.
[20:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Link to article about marriage - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:37] <exec> 08└─That takes too much work. It is easier to publicly shame men that want equal custody rights or complain about comic book covers.
[20:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Link to article about marriage - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:39] <exec> 08└─> If Western feminists want to actually make a difference in the world, they ought to go after abuses like this. Tumblr and Twitter "feminists" are bullies. Do you bully someone who is unwilling to hit you back, or someone who would ENJOY giving you a black eye?
[20:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:45] <exec> 08└─You don't get it. "Those red pillers" as you say, are often men that were married and were treated so badly that their actions are purely reactionary. Nobody blames a Jewish man for not wanting to live in Germany even though there are plenty of good people in Germany. The emotional scars are too dee...
[20:30:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:47] <exec> 08└─>Most men want to have a family. Maybe not those red pillers, but normal men do. Even in backwards cultures where the Nope. Men want a cute young girl or a pretty woman. That's as far as it goes. Nature dose the rest.
[20:30:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:49] <exec> 08└─>women I date in the U.S. is that too many men are passive and effeminate. These are good-looking women who We do not want to go to prison. America is a woman's cunt(ry).
[20:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:54] <exec> 08└─Women are cunts. Why would anyone want this shit you describe. Also they get fat right quick. Marry young girl children, like men did in the past.
[20:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:57] <exec> 08└─Marry cute little girls from the next generation and there's more than enought for everyone. Plus they are cute. Young girls also actually like men too. Women are jaded and do not.
[20:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:This is a good example - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:05] <exec> 08└─I don't understand your position. Do you mean that you will start a war with Mars if you learn that Martians, who look exactly like humans, are customarily eating 10% of their children, and you learned about that from a TV report from Mars, where a Martian reporter mentioned it as a matter of fact?...
[20:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02OMG, there's little green men on my porch now! - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:06] <exec> 08└─LOL!! Now we are getting invaded by Martians? You don't understand my position because I have not stated one for this issue. And because you don't understand, you throw more FUD out...Martians, indeed. A rational and/or reasonable person would ask me what me position is, instead of just going off th...
[20:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a good example - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:08] <exec> 08└─Definition of a marriage. The West is actually leading the world in redefinition of the old "one man, one woman" formula. So what is then wrong, in principle, with one older man taking a second wife?
[20:31:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02Re:not a fan - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 192 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:11] <exec> 08└─Contrast that with American society -- You let women say whatever they want to say and do whatever they want to do... Imagine that, the Constitution of the US actually applies to everyone!
[20:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not a fan - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:12] <exec> 08└─If the constitution is a feminist document, every copy of it should be burned. You ignore the fact that men in the USA married 9 yr old girls till feminism happened in the mid to late 1800s. But fine. If the constitution is a feminist document, every copy of it should be burned. I would rather have...
[20:31:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good. I support him. - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:17] <exec> 08└─Not a troll. -- I hope he kills some (more) feminists too. Why didn't the friend marry a 7 yr old cute adorable girl tho. 17 is old. She won't last long looking good. Mohammed married a 6 yr old. King Richard a 7 yr old. Various other earls etc 9 yr olds etc. Young girls were within the reach of men...
[20:31:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Already under arrest - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:36] <exec> 08└─When did Dominoes start selling pizza?
[20:32:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Paddy Chayefsky was a true genius - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:01] <exec> 08└─The only person to win a solo Oscar 3 times: Marty (1955), The Hospital (1971), Network (1976). Gone way too early (cancer, age 58). Filmography & TV works [wikipedia.org] -- gewg_
[20:32:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Damned lies - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:07] <exec> 08└─Plenty of people I know sell their excess food stamps.
[20:32:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Postal banks - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:24] <exec> 08└─Between 1911 and 1967, you could do your banking at USA post offices. Neoliberals (the "privatize everything" Crony Capitalism bunch) have repeatedly attempted to kill the US Postal Service with the death of 1000 cuts. -- gewg_
[20:32:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:30] <exec> 08└─You operate under the assumption that welfare is a right
[20:32:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What circumstances require cash? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:42] <exec> 08└─Kansas is a rural red state. It is common for small business owners, gas stations mostly, to not accept anything but cash- for tax purposes of course. I am not being critical of the practice, merely stating what I have seen. It is very odd the first time you pop into a tiny grocery store or go to fi...
[20:32:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Withdrawal fee - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:46] <exec> 08└─That only works if its your bank. If your bank doesn't have a branch where you live, because you moved or your local branch closed down, then you're fucked. That also only works during bank hours, which means if your work hours are the same as the bank hours, or if they're slightly offset but travel...
[20:33:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:not gewgy enough - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:33:13] <exec> 08└─I've seen him listed both ways. The Examiner lists him as losing a 5 way Republican primary ( http://www.examiner.com [examiner.com] ). But, worldstatesman.org list him as being a Democrat for his two (one notably shortened by the ment...
[20:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Distraction - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 1042 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:06] <exec> 08└─Way to miss the point. We are told over and over about how teh teroristz wil kilz us all and we have to totally close the airspace over places like DC. And they do have a point, that gyrocopter was more than big enough to disperse any of a number of nasty things right in the heart of the Capital. So...
[20:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02GUTs - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:29] <exec> 08└─Pure pedantry, but GUTs combine the electroweak theory with the strong theory. A so-called Theory of Everything combines a (postulated) GUT with gravity. I'd note that we do not actually have a single, accepted GUT yet. The idea that the only force to lie outwith a unified theory is gravity is somet...
[20:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:GUTs - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:30] <exec> 08└─I am being careless between GUTs and ToEs (and whatever the hell other stupid acronyms that come next), but my intention was to talk of unified theories in general. All I'm saying is that it may turn out that you cannot combine all the forces into some nice compact model.
[20:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:GUTs - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 1299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:32] <exec> 08└─Totally agreed. I've maintained for a number of years - from when I was an undergraduate all the way through a career in post-doctoral cosmology - that there is no a priori reason to assume that we can combine all four forces, particularly as only two of the four manifest themselves on macroscopic s...
[20:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 3703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:48] <exec> 08└─Entertainingly, and in the original spirit of quantum mechanics, no you can't. What you can do, with a laser (no need for anything else; the existence of the laser itself is proof enough - or the computer you're typing on), is verify that the *predictions* of quantum mechanics are unquestionable in...
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[21:30:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't seem that odd. - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:19] <exec> 08└─You mean, they'd need a database. Maybe they should have thought of this. I'll shoot an e-mail to them. How do you say "the base" in Arabic?
[21:30:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't seem that odd. - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:20] <exec> 08└─A single database? Why think so small. I'm sure there is an amazing SAP solution they could install that would solve all their problems and needs ... once they get it running.
[21:31:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a good example - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:10] <exec> 08└─Because there is only so many women to go around. If you want men to be resentful, then go ahead, have your "second wife". Then don't be surprised someone doesn't come and kills you for your wife.
[21:31:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:not a fan - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:16] <exec> 08└─I was wondering when you were going to show up! Finally, a thread where your comments are on-topic! If the constitution is a feminist document, every copy of it should be burned.
[21:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Good. I support him. - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:23] <exec> 08└─> Not a troll. Seems like you believe what you write, so you are definitely not a troll. But there is no -1 fuckwit moderation so instead of "-1 troll(ing for fish)" think of it as "-1 troll living under the bridge."
[21:31:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:39] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure it was a ham handed and misguided attempt at humor. Just mod him Insensitive clod and move on.
[21:31:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Already under arrest - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 925 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:43] <exec> 08└─Submission time can lag publication time here on SN more than used to happen on that other site. Probably due to our overworked editors, and no official policy on favoring timeliness. Knowing this, and knowing that most of us are sitting in front of a computer with access to news, I've personally te...
[21:31:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Essential Element of Jealousy - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:54] <exec> 08└─Have you ever gotten really upset then felt better later?
[21:31:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Essential Element of Jealousy - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:56] <exec> 08└─> We have a right to commit suicide, do we not? It depends on the circumstances. Is the attempt made with clarity of thought or clouded by depression? Only about 10% of failed suicide attempts are followed up by a successful suicide. Even if we assume that the eventual successful suicide was made w...
[21:31:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Essential Element of Jealousy - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 1032 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:58] <exec> 08└─> Out of curiosity, are you as vocal about the Mood Affiliation fallacy in the wake of mass shootings at movie theaters and schools? I am much more vocal about those, they are so rare as to be useless for drawing conclusions. Here I have made been one post rebutting a completely baseless conclusion,...
[21:32:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:So? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:32:43] <exec> 08└─That would be evil. Initiating violence is pretty much always wrong. I know you are just being snarky but I reject the implied false premise. No, the choice isn't provide every want of the poor or kill them. Leaving them alone is another choice, free to get their life in order and become self suppor...
[21:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't embarrass the Government - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:33:45] <exec> 08└─>With your views, I'm sure they would be happy for you to leave. They're bombing every country where men could marry little girls. Go where?
[21:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Distraction - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:34:21] <exec> 08└─I want to marry a cute young girl or two and rule over *her*.
[21:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Quantum theory is weird. - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:34:39] <exec> 08└─Does infinity actually exist? As to the question of weirdness, the Beatles said it best: Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going, too. Strawberry feels nothing is real, and nothing to get hung about. Strawberry feels forever!
[21:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:GUTs - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:34:48] <exec> 08└─I've maintained for a number of years - from when I was an undergraduate all the way through a career in post-doctoral cosmology - that there is no a priori reason to assume that we can combine all four forces
[21:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:GUTs - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 1679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:34:50] <exec> 08└─About twelve years back in the university library I read through the three-volume "History of Quantum Field Theory", or whatever it was called, in lieu of revising for my exams. In these volumes no less than Schwinger commented something like, "I'm not sure that renormalisation is mathematically jus...
[21:35:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JeanCroix [573] 02School days - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 394 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:18] <exec> 08└─After earning my bachelor's engineering degree, I started down the path toward a masters in applied physics. It was exactly the kinds of questions this article discusses which sent me screaming back to the engineering department after a single semester. Even applied physics seemed far to intangible...
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[22:30:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yeah, I know. - 06Australian Law Could Criminalize the Teaching of Encryption - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:13] <exec> 08└─I read about this days ago on Slashdot, of all places.
[22:30:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Knowledge is dangerous - 06Australian Law Could Criminalize the Teaching of Encryption - 1190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:14] <exec> 08└─The whole discussion is actually about something else. It does not handle in its core about mathematics or any dual-use or whatever. It is all about controlling knowledge. The person with knowledge which another person does not have is how to control a society divided into classes. Prevent the knowl...
[22:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Sample question - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:28] <exec> 08└─Awan-Afuqya and Al-Suq Akweer can destroy 1,000 feet of priceless ancient artifacts in 3.5 hours. Awan-Afuqya alone takes 6 hours. How long would it take Al-Suq to do the job alone? M'Ballz Es-Hari made 2 IEDs yesterday, and 3 IEDs today. How many IEDs does M'Ballz Es-Hari have? Divide 80 infidels i...
[22:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Sample question - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:29] <exec> 08└─> Awan-Afuqya and Al-Suq Akweer can destroy 1,000 feet of priceless ancient artifacts in 3.5 hours. Awan-Afuqya alone takes 6 hours. How long would it take Al-Suq to do the job alone? He will never finish without a chaperone, because the statues have boobs. > M'Ballz Es-Hari made 2 IEDs yesterday, a...
[22:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sure...we trust this info. - 06Al-Qaeda’s Job Application Form Revealed - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:36] <exec> 08└─Especially how they had this for years and it just so happens to be released after Hersh released a very different account. One that has been confirmed by other main stream press using their own sources. See https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] for sta...
[22:31:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:03] <exec> 08└─Hhhm, comparing a bad marriage to the holocaust. You are definitely on to something there. Or at least on something. Like a red pill perhaps?
[22:32:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03urza9814 [3954] 02Re:Effectively a $20 limit. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 343 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:29] <exec> 08└─Most ATMs that I've been to in the US will only let you withdraw money in increments of $20. (I've occasionally run into an ATM that will dispense two different denominations of bills; usually that's been $20 and $10 but the most recent one - near my workplace - is now dispensing $50 and $20 bills.)...
[22:32:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Debit card. - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:50] <exec> 08└─Farmer's Markets: in other news, the President of the United States is still Black.
[22:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Metal? - 06Ceres Bright Spots Seen Closer Than Ever - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:22] <exec> 08└─I'm going with tinfoil: Ceres, our first conspiracy theorist dwarf planet!!
[22:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:03] <exec> 08└─While an unification of the different quantum field theories is not strictly necessary (the standard model works quite well), it is a completely different thing with the unification of quantum field theory with general relativity: While the different quantum field theories are compatible, quantum fi...
[22:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:1) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:19] <exec> 08└─So you're saying that all of quantum mechanics is unprovable because multiple mathematical models can describe it? That just means there's some hidden relationship between the models, not that the models are untrue. For instance, you can describe the motion of a pendulum either with conservation of...
[22:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 1453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:20] <exec> 08└─Not in the slightest. I'm saying that cleaving to one particular model of quantum mechanics is a matter of taste and aesthetics. Also, the conservation of energy (of any sort) is an intrinsic part of Newtonian mechanics. Given the postulates of Newtonian mechanics I can derive the conservation of en...
[22:35:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:No fraud here - shame on Nature! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:22] <exec> 08└─Ultimately, what I'm saying is that if it doesn't refer to an observable quantity - potential or realistic; that's a different matter - then it isn't describing physics so much as the internals of a physical theory or, if there *are* no observables, maths that is at the boundary of pure and applied....
[22:35:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 2470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:29] <exec> 08└─Seriously, who gives a flying fuck? The point of physics isn't to give us a warm feeling that we know what the universe is, but instead to give us a set of algorithms that we can apply in given regimes to given inputs, which produce outputs that we have tested against experiment. If those algorithms...
[22:35:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:31] <exec> 08└─Seriously, who gives a flying fuck? The point of physics isn't to give us a warm feeling that we know what the universe is,
[22:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:Philosophers got this! - 06Quantum Physics: What is Really Real? - 2821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:33] <exec> 08└─I think I disagree with him :) Unfortunately, and to be honest, I've known too many people in theory who have started to talk as if the theory is reality. It's understandable - we're working day in and day out with a description of nature that we can't disprove; of course we think that's what nature...
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[23:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Division is an ancien weapon. - 06Australian Law Could Criminalize the Teaching of Encryption - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:17] <exec> 08└─To avoid being detected when exporting or teaching encryption, don't forget to encrypt it.
[23:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Division is an ancien weapon. - 06Australian Law Could Criminalize the Teaching of Encryption - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:18] <exec> 08└─It's not encrypted, it's just random noise! 🚓 ಠ_ಠ 👊 🔫🔫🔫 ☠
[23:30:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Division is an ancien weapon. - 06Australian Law Could Criminalize the Teaching of Encryption - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:19] <exec> 08└─You could be forced to prove that all that noise you send doesn't contain any secrets..
[23:30:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Division is an ancien weapon. - 06Australian Law Could Criminalize the Teaching of Encryption - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:21] <exec> 08└─You could be forced to prove that all that noise you send doesn't contain any secrets..
[23:30:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Link to article about marriage - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 359 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:57] <exec> 08└─Link to an article about the marriage [businessinsider.com] He sounds like a really charming guy. If Western feminists want to actually make a difference in the world, they ought to go after abuses like this. Heck, the British Queen goes out of her way to make the point to these barbarians; [indepen...
[23:31:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02not a fan - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 550 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:30] <exec> 08└─The president Ramzan Kadyrov is quoted as saying "I have the right to criticize my wife. She doesn’t. With us [in Chechen society], a wife is a housewife. A woman should know her place. A woman should give her love to us [men]... She would be [man’s] property. And the man is the owner. Here, if...
[23:31:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:54] <exec> 08└─ad hominem or strawman are used as counterpoints to end a discussion
[23:31:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He's Innocent! - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:55] <exec> 08└─There's no such thing as a "hip" word.
[23:32:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Essential Element of Jealousy - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:32:14] <exec> 08└─I had that opinion before too. The catch is that sometimes people have a really bad time. But they recover and feel alright. And in hindsight they are grateful for being prevented from killing themselves. Of course this isn't the case always. (and it's kind of weird that the state may kill people, b...
[23:32:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Pleas to turn himself in - no gain ? - 06DNA on Pizza Crust Leads to Quadruple Murder Suspect - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:21] <exec> 08└─"Right now you have just about every law enforcement officer across the country aware of his open warrant and are looking for him," says Lanier. "I think even his family has made pleas for him to turn himself in."
[23:32:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Damned lies - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:32:43] <exec> 08└─Liar. Food stamps have not existed for over a decade. Disbursements are in the form of EBT cards.
[23:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So? - 06Kansas to Tax People on Public Assistance Benefits by Placing $25 Limit on ATM Withdrawals - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:33:09] <exec> 08└─Leaving them alone is another choice
[23:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Degenerating? - 06Feds Bust Cops Who Cleaned up Credit Histories by Filing Falsified Police Reports - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:33:45] <exec> 08└─Even nostalgia ain't what it used to be!
[23:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:1) 02Re:List of Grievances - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:40] <exec> 08└─The guy flew a gyroscope into guarded airspace and landed it on the White House lawn.
[23:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Distraction - 06Charges Against Gyrocopter-Flying Protester Glenn Hughes Keep Piling Up - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:47] <exec> 08└─They aren't all powerful, they aren't all seeing. They are merely an illusion of competence. And that is what we should be hammering home, over and over again.
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