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[00:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02headlines you read 3 times - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:05:49] <exec> 08└─Russian Think-Tank App Catches Protesters - some brainy guys had a good idea Russian Think "Tank App" Catches Protesters - an app for the tank driver to use to know where to drive Well, at least the latter is a bit clumsy without being pluralized.
[00:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:headlines you read 3 times - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:50] <exec> 08└─Soon America too can be domestically oppressive as China and Russia! Because it's a race to the bottom, not the top!
[00:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Uh-Huh. - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:05:52] <exec> 08└─Wow. Russia is pretty evil because It finally decided to sigh impatiently and finally crack down on all those subversive CIA-funded "activist" groups trying to rabblerouse. Russia admits openly that it does not tolerate public degeneracy, but at least they're clear and straightforward about where th...
[00:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02So Same Shit -Different Shingle? - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:05:53] <exec> 08└─How is this different from that the NSA is doing? The only difference is that protests are specifically allowed in the US and many EU countries. Doesn't mean you aren't tracked, or that the local police don't know you are coming while you are still packing your bags.
[00:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:So Same Shit -Different Shingle? - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:55] <exec> 08└─I would like to thank our Russian friends for parading their superior capabilities. Utah's been a bit dry and needed a river of drool.
[00:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Foreskin Restoration - 06L'Oreal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:06:05] <exec> 08└─It could replace foreskins. Not the one barbarically removed from me in my infancy, but the one I've had since birth. It looks like an elephant trunk made from chewed bubble gum.
[00:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Hair - 06L'Oreal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:06:07] <exec> 08└─I'd rather like to see hair 3-d printed. William Shatner could be an investor in such a venture... or its biggest customer!
[00:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Hair - 06L'Oreal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:08] <exec> 08└─I know scientists are working on hair restoration that uses stem cells (regenerative and advanced, unlike existing hair restoration techniques).
[00:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02*ffft* *ffffft* *ffftt* *ffffttt* - 06L'Oreal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:06:10] <exec> 08└─.. they taste like chicken ..
[00:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Hope this exposure won't wreck the workplace - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:21] <exec> 08└─The article say NOTHING about the source of the drug, or what it was based on. Only that Cuba has been tweaking it for 25 years. Who knows what they started with?
[00:06:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Hope this exposure won't wreck the workplace - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:22] <exec> 08└─After 25 years of tweaking, it's certainly not much like what it was before the embargo came down. Let's be honest, if some group of islanders working in silence for 25 years and turned aspirin into the cure for the common cold would you scoff and claim they got it from Bayer? If it has any connecti...
[00:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03CortoMaltese [5244] (Score:1) 02Re:Why was ideology permitted to defeat medicine? - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:26] <exec> 08└─A lot of doubt has been cast on Che's doctor title, he did study medicine but he seemed to have abandoned somewhere in the middle. And even if he was indeed a doctor he never practiced, In Cuba he held posts as the National Bank director and Minister of Industries (which he didn't hold long). One wo...
[00:06:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's amazing what you come up with - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:30] <exec> 08└─reason why Big Pharma isn't super interested in new antibiotics
[00:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ames Assay of chlorinated hydrocarbons - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 831 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:37] <exec> 08└─Most carcinogens are also cytotoxic, damaged tissue requires cell division to regenerate. If the normal error rate during cell division is as high as claimed (~1% chance of chromosome error per division), the effects of carcinogens on specific gene mutations will be a relatively less important mecha...
[00:06:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ames Assay of chlorinated hydrocarbons - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:39] <exec> 08└─Here is Ames ranting about pretty much the same thing: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov [nih.gov] More cell division for any reason leads to cancer, and the rate of carcinogenic mutations is not low (like the claimed 10^-7 per division).
[00:06:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:55] <exec> 08└─I've been using Pale Moon for around the last year now and if anything it seems *more* stable than Firefox. Plus at least your grandmother won't keep getting confused when Mozilla decides to completely rearrange the interface every 6 months or whatever.
[00:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03acharax [4264] (Score:2) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:56] <exec> 08└─I've been using it in both Windows and Linux for a long time now and never noticed any problems or differences between the two versions. However you might have some trouble with their makeshift Linux installer (they should really set up a repo for it, if there is one by now excuse my ignorance) if y...
[00:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Minimum wage workers often need food stamps - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:13] <exec> 08└─What ever happened to personal responsibility?
[00:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:will it work? - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:31] <exec> 08└─California. When minimum wage went up after about three to four months or so I noticed that fast food prices, for instance (and essentially the price of everything) went up. The local taco bell (and all of them around here) charges more for tacos (as one example) and for ... just about everything el...
[00:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:will it work? - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:32] <exec> 08└─(that is chicken sandwiches from fast food restaurants that sell them and even the ones you buy from Costco in packages). The good news is we own a business and our customers aren't as price aversive now that they make more. We simply stick it back to the customer ... hence negating the effect of ev...
[00:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Take Our Jobs - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 850 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:56] <exec> 08└─Stop paying people to not work and yes, they will do the jobs we currently pay Americans to not do. Hunger is a powerful motivator. Of course it would be rrrraaaacccisssstttt to say we should tell those rioters to get their ass on a bus out to a farm somewhere and pick some produce since they have s...
[00:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:This is not the correct approach - 06South Korea Mandates Spyware Installation on Teenagers' Smartphones. - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:15] <exec> 08└─When a child is suicidal, quite commonly the reason is abuse at the hands of their parents. Notifying the parents that their child is trying to find a way out is not likely to yield the desired response. Man that sounds horrible! It must really suck being forced into Apple products.
[00:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:1) 02Re:Don't give too much credit . . . - 06Belgium's Privacy Protection Commission Urges Users to Protect Against Facebook Tracking - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:51] <exec> 08└─Well if you're just going to sit there and complain you're doing far less for the advancement of the discussion than OP.
[00:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02But, Belgium does not exist! - 06Belgium's Privacy Protection Commission Urges Users to Protect Against Facebook Tracking - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:57] <exec> 08└─Facebook tracking of a non-existent country? http://zapatopi.net [zapatopi.net] Belgium does not exist. Sounds like the thinking of a Web2.0 to me!
[00:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't Apple Corp. the Beatles? - 06The Plundering of the USA by Apple Corp. - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:28] <exec> 08└─There is often a significant retail markup. Sometimes a truly crazy one (and perhaps it's time for people to realize just how much). Of course, with Apple having it's own stores, it should be able to do better than that and still make a killing.
[00:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Err, not really - 06The Plundering of the USA by Apple Corp. - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:45] <exec> 08└─And WHERE does apple keep its cash? Why, its in BANKS. Imagine that. In Banks, earning interest. And being loaned out to other patrons. Are you intentionally being dense? Did you seriously think the phrase "sitting on cash" meant they hire people to sit on stacks of 100 dollar bills?
[00:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Robot? - 06Giant Fighting Robots at Maker Faire - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:01] <exec> 08└─I'd rather you use your politicians
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[01:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Not just horror from beyond... - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:51] <exec> 08└─The air literally hints strongly at spiders? Nice. I might grow to appreciate Australia.
[01:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:So Same Shit -Different Shingle? - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:04] <exec> 08└─Sheeah, protests in Free-Speech Zones [wikipedia.org], which themselves resemble improvised internment camps. Which country are we in again?
[01:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Summary: Don't use social media - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:05] <exec> 08└─Anyone with any brains will avoid social media to stage any activity like this. If not Darwinian style selective pressure will perhaps ensure this.
[01:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hari Seldon - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:07] <exec> 08└─At least get his name right. And Minority Report was originally a story by Philip K. Dick.
[01:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Foreskin Restoration - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:18] <exec> 08└─https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=love+the+skin+you%27re+in [google.com]
[01:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Hair - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:21] <exec> 08└─I think Shatner should have to be behind Donald Trump in that line. (just my opinion, YMMV) Is Shatner bigger than Trump? I've never seen them side by side, or even in the same pic.
[01:06:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02It's amazing what you come up with - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 1174 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:42] <exec> 08└─when the focus of your healthcare system is health and not profit. There's a good reason major western companies wouldn't come up many of these drugs. Vaccines aren't profitable. You sell one dose once, and then you never sell it again. Compare it to something like Lipitor, where you take one pill a...
[01:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03danomac [979] (Score:2) 02Re:And American college students - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:47] <exec> 08└─You mean coughs, don't you?
[01:06:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Repeated injury can cause cancer - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:55] <exec> 08└─My ex used to have a habit of chewing on the insides of her cheeks. Her dentist spotted that and warned her not to.
[01:08:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Not my generation! - 06Four years later, Rounded Corners are Fair Game - 332 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:08:06] <exec> 08└─When I was growing up, we were invited to make and use squares, circles, rectangles, and any combination thereof. I'm pretty damned sure that Etch-A-Sketch had those rounded corners long before Steve Jobs had a hair on his ass. I wouldn't bet a lot on his hairy ass, some babies are born hairy. But,...
[01:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:will it work? - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:49] <exec> 08└─Interesting; thank you. I'm guessing (based on this table [ca.gov] that you were referring to July 2014?
[01:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Sounds very inflationary - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 2927 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:54] <exec> 08└─Ever studied a "four cycle" engine? Intake, compression, (ignition)/power, exhaust? I have noted over the years, real estate does this same thing. I have seen over and over a cycle of "smart money" buying and selling real estate right in concert with the banking people sliding the money-creation val...
[01:09:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Job losses - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:03] <exec> 08└─I bet there are hundreds of cases like this one. http://q13fox.com [q13fox.com]
[01:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Job losses - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:26] <exec> 08└─By your logic, we should allow that company to hire 50 employees and pay them 1$/hour and do 5x the work! See the problem in your argument?
[01:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:Job losses - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:27] <exec> 08└─You disproved nothing. The ditches still needed to be dug, and they were.
[01:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fauxlosopher [4804] (Score:1) 02You wanted "evil privilege" instead of "right" - 06The Plundering of the USA by Apple Corp. - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:56] <exec> 08└─The purchase, sale, and owning of human beings was also a right people once had.
[01:12:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khchung [457] (Score:2) 02Re:Goodbye, SoylentNews... - 06The Plundering of the USA by Apple Corp. - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:40] <exec> 08└─Or you personally could commit to submitting 1 non-crap article per day.
[01:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Growing popularity? - 06Bitcoin Struggles to Make Its Most Crucial Decision. - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:52] <exec> 08└─I am in total agreement that the government is watching and trying to track all Bitcoin transactions, but I doubt they have a full picture. I've never tried to obscure my ownership of coins, but I think it could be done. Some day I intend to, just for the sake of it. It is certainly work, and more w...
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[02:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Not just horror from beyond... - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:48] <exec> 08└─The air literally hints strongly at spiders?
[02:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Penal Colony - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:49] <exec> 08└─You see, everything and everyone there is out to get you, and that's why the limeys sent their criminals down there.
[02:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02karma 'oring - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:51] <exec> 08└─I'll just reuse this then. [australiangeographic.com.au]
[02:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Fire! Purge it with Fire! - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:53] <exec> 08└─This is why if I ever visit Australia I'll be bringing a flamethrower. I'm sure the customs people will be understanding as to my dilemma.
[02:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Fire! Purge it with Fire! - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:55] <exec> 08└─Phobic, are you? Very likely, they are harmless: there's little to no biological pressure for venomous spiders to migrate long distances Besides, there are beautiful [google.com] spiders [xs4all.nl] here as well, I wouldn't like to have you destroy them.
[02:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Fire! Purge it with Fire! - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:56] <exec> 08└─Harmless? So unlike practically every thing else in Australia. That must make for a nice change of pace.
[02:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:3, Informative) 02'in mass', well, yeah... - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:58] <exec> 08└─...as a technically correct sentence; but i think you meant 'en masse', mayhaps... just a drive-by pedant...
[02:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Just in time - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:06:27] <exec> 08└─Hawkeye will be happy about this.
[02:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Designer skins are coming - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:06:28] <exec> 08└─"It would be a great thing to have stores of spare skins for burn victims."
[02:06:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Designer skins are coming - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:30] <exec> 08└─Once we have the ability to grow entire new bodies and upload our minds to them, there won't be any trick except for the identity of the person on the inside. Before then, I imagine it will be expensive and weird to graft on patches of 3D printed skin, so an in vivo regenerative solution for making...
[02:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Hope this exposure won't wreck the workplace - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:45] <exec> 08└─Phages are indeed homeopathy. This not so much. But you assume I meant American Pharma, while I said no such thing. All I meant was that you can not assume that they did this solely on their own, when they were a client state of the Soviet Union for decades. You can not assume the embargo had any ef...
[02:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why was ideology permitted to defeat medicine? - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 1758 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:50] <exec> 08└─I heard an interview with the station manager of a radio station in Berkeley, who as a young man, sneaked into Cuba to report on the revolution, and ended up joining the revolution fighting at Fidel Castro's side. If they captured government soldiers, Fidel Castro would have his men give the injured...
[02:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Pale Moon! - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:31] <exec> 08└─But some proprietary plugins won't work with Pale Moon. (Like, say, hangouts video chat).
[02:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Firefox 22 - 06Verizon Switching All Central Offices From Copper to Fiber - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:03] <exec> 08└─Wrong thread? lol
[02:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:This is not the correct approach - 06South Korea Mandates Spyware Installation on Teenagers' Smartphones. - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:49] <exec> 08└─Are you seriously singling out Apple so as to imply Windows Phone or Android are better for your privacy?
[02:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Seriously, not a problem. - 06Moderation Roundtable - 1940 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:25] <exec> 08└─If you will explain how someone without admin access is supposed to show moderation history for posts? I'll be more than happy to oblige. I can sit there and watch posts yo-yo between +5 and -1 multiple times but if I were to provide you a link all it would show is the mod at that moment and not the...
[02:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:Mostly working now - 06Moderation Roundtable - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:32] <exec> 08└─Having the button next to the mod dropdown makes it a lot harder to accidentally the wrong moderation, too.
[02:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Loose-knit indeed - 06Bitcoin Struggles to Make Its Most Crucial Decision. - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:51] <exec> 08└─$10 says whoever modded you Insightful didn't read the whitepaper :P
[02:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Growing popularity? - 06Bitcoin Struggles to Make Its Most Crucial Decision. - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:08] <exec> 08└─I've never tried to obscure my ownership of coins, but I think it could be done. Some day I intend to, just for the sake of it.
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[03:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Rand Paul to delay Fast Track vote... for 1 hour - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:05:48] <exec> 08└─http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/05/20/rand-paul-stands-to-talk-for-undisclosed-amount-of-time/ [wsj.com] However, aides to Senate Republican and Democratic leaders said that Mr. Paul wouldn’t be able to speak indefinitely because party leaders will be able to cut him off Thursday and hold a vo...
[03:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02MMT - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:05:49] <exec> 08└─Raising min. wage will cause social welfare payments to decrease. Since these social programs are a major form of exogenous money stimulus, raising the minimum wage should slow the injection of this new money into circulation. Therefore raising both minimum wage and income limits for social welfare...
[03:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Not just horror from beyond... - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:59] <exec> 08└─Nice. I might grow to appreciate Australia.
[03:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:1) 02Re:Fire! Purge it with Fire! - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:06] <exec> 08└─Harmless? So unlike practically every thing else in Australia. That must make for a nice change of pace.
[03:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02Re:Fire! Purge it with Fire! - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:07] <exec> 08└─Everything except a funnel web seems to know that even if it bites you, you can still kill it.
[03:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02Re:Fire! Purge it with Fire! - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:09] <exec> 08└─and box jellyfish, salties and maybe brown snakes. hmmm
[03:06:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:headlines you read 3 times - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:18] <exec> 08└─Because it's a race to the bottom, not the top!
[03:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:Summary: Don't use social media - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:25] <exec> 08└─The smart protestor sets up international twitter account sockpuppets to pretend to be dissidents long enough to get tagged as a legit account of interest, and then uses them to flood the system with false positives.
[03:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:Hair - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:40] <exec> 08└─Is Shatner bigger than Trump? I've never seen them side by side, or even in the same pic.
[03:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:Designer skins are coming - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:45] <exec> 08└─Before then, I imagine it will be expensive and weird to graft on patches of 3D printed skin
[03:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:1) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:41] <exec> 08└─What would you suggest for each platform to replace Firefox? On linux? Iceweasel Or Konqueror?
[03:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:42] <exec> 08└─Stripping garbage out of their own builds? Then why is systemd force-installed in Debian Jessie?
[03:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:1) 02Re:Jokes still justified - 06Four years later, Rounded Corners are Fair Game - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:46] <exec> 08└─Apple still claimed that their design was somehow unique even though it was cribbed from the state DOT and they still suckered a jury into going along with it.
[03:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:will it work? - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:21] <exec> 08└─Yeah, when it went up to $9/hour.
[03:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Job losses - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:58] <exec> 08└─You are a moron if you think that lowering wage limits would empower the poor.
[03:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously, not a problem. - 06Moderation Roundtable - 1812 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:47] <exec> 08└─I think NCommander meant if you have a "suspected case" (a comment you think was subject to abuse), show us an example and we (the admins) can look into it. Side-note: You mentioned IPs; IPs can't moderate, only accounts can moderate, so we would know which accounts are performing the moderations. I...
[03:10:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03janrinok [52] 02Re:Seriously, not a problem. - 06Moderation Roundtable - 980 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:49] <exec> 08└─I'm pleased that we can't. The editors can often make a story out of something that doesn't look up-to-snuff when sitting in the submissions queue. Its our job, it's what we do. We don't always get it right, but at least let us try. Can you imagine what fun people would have silencing those with who...
[03:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:Mostly working now - 06Moderation Roundtable - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:58] <exec> 08└─Agreed, those people will always be around. I have hospitality and retail background, so for me it's tough, I want to please everyone. But you just can't. = )
[03:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Growing popularity? - 06Bitcoin Struggles to Make Its Most Crucial Decision. - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:22] <exec> 08└─You either do it, or do not. There is no "some day" here. The blockchain contains all the history of your accounts, and they can be tracked backward in time until the chain hits one of your current, known accounts. You can try to break the chain - for example, by selling your coins for cash and then...
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[04:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Rand Paul to delay Fast Track vote... for 1 hou - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:05:49] <exec> 08└─Personally, I seriously doubt it would be constitutional to authorise any sort of fast track that could result in a binding agreement. Advise and consent can not possibly happen when they have no idea what they are consenting to.
[04:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:05:51] <exec> 08└─Always join hands to oppose these broad trade agreements. So we had Limbaugh and Pat Buchanan joining Ralph Nader and Ross Perot to oppose NAFTA, and now we have Elizabeth Warren and Rand Paul opposing TPP. Trade between nations is, in general, a good thing that increases prosperity for citizens of...
[04:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:05:53] <exec> 08└─But this isn't just about trade between nations. This is about increasing the power of corporations in very draconian ways. We don't need more draconian copyright enforcement, or a corporation's 'expected profits' becoming something like a natural right to the extent that they can sue sovereign gove...
[04:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:05:55] <exec> 08└─Trade between nations is, in general, a good thing that increases prosperity for citizens of both or all countries.
[04:06:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:'in mass', well, yeah... - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:13] <exec> 08└─"en masse" is French, this is Australia! Spiders in mass quantities! Just wait till it starts raining frogs. "Apres le Deluge, Dundee."
[04:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:06:31] <exec> 08└─I think that there will be significant public support of this initiative because people - in all countries, actually - value stability above all. This is why even nasty dictatorial regimes remain in power for decades - as long as dictators are smart enough and tread lightly. In this case the opposit...
[04:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03CortoMaltese [5244] (Score:1) 02Re:Why was ideology permitted to defeat medicine? - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:14] <exec> 08└─I also heard that they shot prisoners who weren't involved with the Batista regime, I'm not saying that cuban preventive medicine is not one of the best, but el regimen has been very far away from being nice, jailing opponents/youth/writers/homosexuals/etc, no matter how romantic it may seem at a di...
[04:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't see the problem - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:39] <exec> 08└─Closed source, still in early development
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[05:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Rand Paul to delay Fast Track vote... for 1 hou - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:56] <exec> 08└─"Fast track" just means that the Senate can only have an up-or-down vote on a treaty that was negotiated by the Executive Branch, they can't add amendments and send it back. This whole thing is still a bad idea, but not quite as bad as you're making it out to be.
[05:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:01] <exec> 08└─So it's fine if hundreds of outfits in China counterfeit Western physical and digital goods? Take our creativity and pawn it off as their own? What do you think America's competitive advantage is, anyway? It sure the heck isn't the ability to manufacture stuff that everybody knows how to make at the...
[05:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:02] <exec> 08└─China will keep doing that with or without a treaty. The only effect the treaty will have is elevating the likes of the MPAA to defacto government agencies even more so than they are now.
[05:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:04] <exec> 08└─And to think they gave your President a Nobel Peace Prize. Sounds like this is just a way to make more countries pissed off as Lawyers get to grease their pockets further into the global realm.
[05:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathElk [4834] (Score:1) 02I, for one, - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:06:24] <exec> 08└─welcome our new arachno-overlords.
[05:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:headlines you read 3 times - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:35] <exec> 08└─Maybe...if the US relaxes embargo enough so that one can have Social Security funds transferred to Cuba (or maybe Viet Nam).
[05:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Hair - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:00] <exec> 08└─Is Shatner bigger than Trump? I've never seen them side by side, or even in the same pic.
[05:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Why was ideology permitted to defeat medicine? - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:29] <exec> 08└─Actually Fidel Castro was a Doctor. Not sure about Che...he may have an honorary degree from Cuba.
[05:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"American researchers want to seize..." - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:07:43] <exec> 08└─Yep, that says it all right there. It won't just be researchers, it will be every corporate cockroach that crawls onto that island to infect ... well, everything. Goodbye Cuba Better have a vacation there now before it becomes McCuba.
[05:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmh [721] (Score:1) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:04] <exec> 08└─Seconded! I use Pale Moon for both Linux and Windows as my primary browser, in fact with the same user profile. Everything works the same as Firefox. Only exception I've found is: The addon "TabMixPlus" works perfectly in Windows/Palemoon, doesn't do anything in Linux/Palemoon.
[05:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:will it work? - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:41] <exec> 08└─minimum wage increases tend to increase unemployment ... it will probably pretty much drag the price of everything else along with it that can vary locally
[05:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously, not a problem. - 06Moderation Roundtable - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:15] <exec> 08└─Um, Hairyfeet, you just click on the #number of the post, and it will show you all the mods. The ones marking you down will probably be me and my horde of modbombers, or it could just be that posts like yours tend, for some inexplicable reason, to attract negative reactions. I myself can't see that,...
[05:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02You're right, this is severe, but it's fixable. - 06Moderation Roundtable - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:59] <exec> 08└─The solution is non-linear mod points. Count the up mods and down mods separately. Before subtracting to find the result, apply non-linear functions such that the strength of up mods grows faster than the strength of down mods. Problem solved! There are numerous functions that can do the job. Exampl...
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[06:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Denial! - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:05:48] <exec> 08└─Just want to say, I was not even in NYC during this time phrame! That doesn't even sound like me! My name is not "Josh", and I do not have a pet llama! Not me, just saying.
[06:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Could actions like these succeed? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:05:49] <exec> 08└─No. They might actually give cover if the NSA actually ever were so amateurish as to have some of their gear found.    
[06:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score:2) 02Civil Disobedience at It's Best! - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:05:51] <exec> 08└─The best way to make the sheeples see how things impact them is to show them how things impact them. All to often it seems that the folks that should be getting outraged aren't because they cannot process or imagine how it will afect THEM as individuals. "I don't have any secrets... why do I care if...
[06:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02This is unusual in what way? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:05:53] <exec> 08└─First off I would be more amazed if a woman in New York paid less than $2000 a month rent for an apartment. The rest of this stuff sounds like things one could hear in Coffee shops, restaurants and bars any where. People"s perversions and life struggles don't make them terrorists. So how could these...
[06:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:07] <exec> 08└─I don't accept "intellectual property" as a legitimate concept. And the targets will not be the Chinese counterfeiters because they are forever beyond our reach, it will be (comparatively) wealthy US citizens engaging in copyright infringement. This is a power grab by the domestic enforcement arm of...
[06:06:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:51] <exec> 08└─Compared to Stalin? Damn. It's a rough crowd when you can come off favorably to a guy who ~killed millions of his own countrymen (women, children...).
[06:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Test subject V - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:14] <exec> 08└─I have this vision, of a human eye, complete with surrounding tissues, being exposed to L'Oréal toxins 24/7, and asking, why am I here? What is the meaning of life? Where is god when you need her? And finally, "why can't they use damn rabbits for this kind of torture test?" 3-d printing of organics...
[06:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Why was ideology permitted to defeat medicine? - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:38] <exec> 08└─Just checked my facts. All I remember from the 50's was referred to as "Doctor". He was in reality a Doctor of Law, not a MD.
[06:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Job losses - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:11] <exec> 08└─This is the more likely outcome. This is not the only one. I bet there are hundreds of cases like this one. http://q13fox.com [q13fox.com]
[06:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Take Our Jobs - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:25] <exec> 08└─Stop paying people to not work and yes, they will do the jobs we currently pay Americans to not do. Hunger is a powerful motivator.
[06:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Seriously, not a problem. - 06Moderation Roundtable - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:11:30] <exec> 08└─you can already, just create a journal entry of your own, link to the submission (or cut and paste the whole thing in), and have at it.
[06:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mostly working now - 06Moderation Roundtable - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:11:38] <exec> 08└─>I just wanted to add that the last couple of months on Soylent have been particularly hospitable. yeah i aint seen much of the buzzard either.
[06:12:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More than a billion illnesses - 06Forecasting Future Infectious Disease Outbreaks. - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:41] <exec> 08└─If it really means something like 1/3 of people get diarrhea at least once each year it could make sense. We need the methodology from the primary data source to interpret that number. And also, it is odd to round down from over 2 billion to 1 billion.
[06:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02impossible, given our voting system - 06The Demographic Future of America's Political Parties - 1311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:25] <exec> 08└─It is a given that first-past-the-post voting will result in exactly two significant parties with near-equal power. Suppose one party moves away from the center. The other party can move in the same direction, thus winning all elections. Obviously no party would be dumb enough to allow this, so as w...
[06:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03soylentsandor [309] (Score:2) 02Re:Dumb question... - 06SatNav Sensors Monitoring Large Structure Stresses and Deformations - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:15:59] <exec> 08└─Your link to the I5 collapse links to the I35 collapse. It should link to this [wikipedia.org].
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[07:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02All your VPNs are belong to U.S. - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:05:53] <exec> 08└─I've read somewhere that this is the exploit used to pierce most VPNs, both hardware and software implementations, and allowed the NSA to read VPN traffic pretty much at will.
[07:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:This is unusual in what way? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:04] <exec> 08└─Because the NSA is on a giant and sustained fishing expedition. Just because they're not currently relevant doesn't mean they won't be recorded and potentially listened to for amusement and perhaps even used unofficially for more harmful purposes.
[07:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is unusual in what way? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:05] <exec> 08└─People"s perversions and life struggles don't make them terrorists.
[07:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03ground [120] (Score:1) 02Micro Cassette recorder? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:06:07] <exec> 08└─I remember Micro casette recorders and they didn't sound anything like this. Where is the tape hiss? Where is the buzzing of the cheap electronic motor? I doubt even the NSA has a micro casette recorder this good.
[07:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:07] <exec> 08└─Stalin was Georgian, not Russian. The people millions he killed were not his countrymen. They were the descendants of the enemies of his countrymen.
[07:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:32] <exec> 08└─Sounds like it might contain a binary, up until recently Mozilla allowed that.
[07:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:35] <exec> 08└─Another SeaMonkey user here, or rarely, PaleMoon (when some site insists).
[07:08:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:38] <exec> 08└─Will it? it's stuffing the systemd garbage botnet down out throats.
[07:08:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lynx - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:55] <exec> 08└─You can achieve the same effect with noscript.
[07:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If then else - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:00] <exec> 08└─Even better. Mozilla was the small browser, that got rid of a lot of the bloat Netscape had. Firefox was the small browser that got rid of a lot of the bloat Mozilla had. Yes, we are overdue for a new cycle.
[07:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Browsers that don't suck - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:07] <exec> 08└─People have already mentioned lynx; I also recommend netsurf. Sometimes you want the full weight of a browser like firefox or midori- that's the natural consequence of how awful the web has gotten- you can avoid memory-hogging spy-scripts or you can access much of the content of the web, but you can...
[07:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03weirsbaski [4539] (Score:1) 02Re:Minimum wage workers often need food stamps - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:05] <exec> 08└─What is your goal here?
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[08:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beige [3989] (Score:1) 02Important paper - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:05:50] <exec> 08└─This is a landmark crypto paper and I hope everyone even half-interested in security will bother reading and understanding the PDF. If you are pressed for time it's at least worth checking the recommendations at the end of the paper.
[08:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Shouldn't they be using different primes? - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:05:51] <exec> 08└─Breaking the single, most common 1024-bit prime used by web servers
[08:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shouldn't they be using different primes? - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:53] <exec> 08└─Generating new DH parameters is an expensive and time-consuming task. I've tried to do this for my OpenVPN setups and it takes quite a bit of time (about an hour as I recall, but that's for a 4096-bit DH), and both client and server sides have to agree on which DH parameters ought to be used.
[08:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Shouldn't they be using different primes? - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:55] <exec> 08└─Use a DSP or FPGA?
[08:06:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03kramulous [255] (Score:1) 02Re:karma 'oring - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:38] <exec> 08└─Huh ... look at that. The Eastern brown is only one point above the red-belly black snake. We pretty much disregard the red-belly here as being non venomous (7/10 on the danger list, ahead of the great white shark). As a result, when I'm programming at my home office and I hear hissing behind me, my...
[08:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03kramulous [255] (Score:1) 02Re:Fire! Purge it with Fire! - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:45] <exec> 08└─In all fairness, you'd be hard pressed to even see those things. You should see the size of the fucker on the wall behind me as I type this. Diameter tip-to-tip ... 15cm. She's been hanging around for a couple of weeks now. Would love to know what she's feeding on.
[08:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 1923 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:11] <exec> 08└─Nikita Khruschev was the major figure that came after Stalin. He killed very few people (primarily Stalin's appointees like Beria.) However he killed something more important - he killed the Communist Party. He pushed for laws and regulations that removed oversight from party functionaries. Those la...
[08:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:13] <exec> 08└─You're seriously saying that a couple social and economic ideas are worth more than millions of human lives?
[08:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03greenfruitsalad [342] (Score:1) 02Re:Why was ideology permitted to defeat medicine? - 06American Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:01] <exec> 08└─having grown up in the eastern block during communism, i can assure you antibiotics were being prescribed and consumed like M&Ms in america.
[08:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously, not a problem. - 06Moderation Roundtable - 887 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:05] <exec> 08└─Easy - when it appears on the front page you can comment all you want. The time to discuss the content is not when a sub is waiting in the queue and has been seen by only a small number of people, but after it has appeared on the front page and has been read by many more. Sorry, that might seem a bi...
[08:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You wanted "evil privilege" instead of "right" - 06The Plundering of the USA by Apple Corp. - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:42] <exec> 08└─So the color of a banana is a right? Wetness is a right of water? No. That is absurd. If this was the case, then no right could ever be infringed upon by any means whatsoever, given that, by your definition, rights are merely descriptors of reality.
[08:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fauxlosopher [4804] (Score:1) 02Re:You wanted "evil privilege" instead of "right" - 06The Plundering of the USA by Apple Corp. - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:43] <exec> 08└─So the color of a banana is a right? Wetness is a right of water? No. That is absurd.
[08:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Loose-knit indeed - 06Bitcoin Struggles to Make Its Most Crucial Decision. - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:26] <exec> 08└─Aside from that, and I could be wrong, but I have serious reservations about the thought that if Bank of America were to randomly claim that everyone's money had disappeared for [insert reason here], that everyone would actually lose their money.
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[12:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:25] <exec> 08└─In the 2000s, because of synchronisation issues wide busses were rejected and narrow fast ones were favoured. In the 2010s, narrow fast ones are being replaced by wide busses. Fuckit, I ain't buying any more PC stuff until the boffins work out which is actually better.
[12:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02that's not a wind tower - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:32] <exec> 08└─This is a wind tower: http://www.solarwindenergytower.com [solarwindenergytower.com] http://www.theatlantic.com [theatlantic.com] http://www.gizmag.com
[12:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:1, Troll) 02What Eyesores - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:34] <exec> 08└─The only redeeming feature of these towers as opposed to wind turbines is that they have no visible moving parts. The human eye-brain (like many higher animals) is hard-wired to give priority attention to things moving. That is why wind turbines in particular are so dominant as blots on the landscap...
[12:19:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What Eyesores - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:19:36] <exec> 08└─That's right - its all a leftist conspiracy to show greenies superiority over the rest of the world. I noticed an article by NASA demanding that the first Mars colony should also use renewables. Even NASA has been taken over by the commies. Where will it end? They want to foist their ridiculous idea...
[12:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Obligatory - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:19:37] <exec> 08└─Yeah, wind turbines are such an eyesore http://i.imgur.com [imgur.com]
[12:19:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Gigawatts a Year? - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:39] <exec> 08└─produce 16,150 gigawatts of electricity a year
[12:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Gigawatts a Year? - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:19:41] <exec> 08└─page 14: The technical potential for land-based wind energy for the contiguous United States is estimated to be 12,000 GW of generating capacity at 100- meter (m) hub height (NREL 2010a)—assuming a net capacity factor of at least 26%; and the technical potential for offshore wind energy is estimat...
[12:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fauxlosopher [4804] (Score:1) 0240,000 deaths versus ~6 - 06Takata Airbag Defect Leads to Largest Automotive Recall in U.S. History - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:47] <exec> 08└─Moisture can infiltrate the defective airbags, which causes the chemical propellant inside to ignite too quickly, breaking the inflator and sending "metal shards into the passenger cabin that can lead to serious injury or death."
[12:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:40,000 deaths versus ~6 - 06Takata Airbag Defect Leads to Largest Automotive Recall in U.S. History - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:19:48] <exec> 08└─The side impact ones might be useful if you don't have a habit of wearing a helmet while driving. I don't see the point of the front ones if you wear decent seatbelts. If you happen to be holding the steering wheel "wrong"[1] US strength[2] steering wheel airbags can break your arms/hands. Thanks bu...
[12:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:40,000 deaths versus ~6 - 06Takata Airbag Defect Leads to Largest Automotive Recall in U.S. History - 761 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:19:50] <exec> 08└─I am in the UK. When seatbelts were made compulsory wearing in the UK the vast majority of people did wear them. I might be wrong, and it might be an urban myth, but my understanding of the origin of airbags is that they were introduced into the USA because a much greater proportion of people there...
[12:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02100% percent fatality is the best outcome - 06Takata Airbag Defect Leads to Largest Automotive Recall in U.S. History - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:51] <exec> 08└─Fewer drivers left alive on the roads means less air pollution, less noise pollution, and less danger to pedestrians.
[12:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:100% percent fatality is the best outcome - 06Takata Airbag Defect Leads to Largest Automotive Recall in U.S. History - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:19:53] <exec> 08└─So improve the world using your own methods then. Start at home. Start with yourself.
[12:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:All your VPNs are belong to U.S. - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:00] <exec> 08└─Care to share the source. I don't fancy anecdotal facts much.
[12:20:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:All your VPNs are belong to U.S. - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:02] <exec> 08└─It's in the PDF article, near the end
[12:20:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:All your VPNs are belong to U.S. - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:03] <exec> 08└─Great, thanks.
[12:20:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2, Informative) 02CVE-2015-4000? - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:20:07] <exec> 08└─The fine summary is missing all relevant information about the nature of the problem. In particular it is missing the CVE, which in this case might be CVE-2015-4000 [nist.gov]. Please edit the fine summary to include the right CVE(s) so we have the canonical name to use when searching further for au...
[12:20:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Re:CVE-2015-4000? - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:09] <exec> 08└─Story has been updated — thanks for the info!
[12:20:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02vulnerabilities need cutesy names now - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:20:10] <exec> 08└─So which advisory will name some vulnerability Titpuncher or Assraper? The names are the important things, people, not fixing stuff. Fixing stuff is for faceless techie jerks. Unique cutesy names are marketing gold!
[12:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:vulnerabilities need cutesy names now - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:12] <exec> 08└─It's all about the marketing! Here's the checklist: 1. Cute name. 2. Somehow IE is the only one that's invulnerable to this. Who benefits? Hmmm...
[12:20:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02SMTP/IMAP - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:20:14] <exec> 08└─I presume this also has impact on email servers with TLS encryption. Getting so sick of state compromised encryption. It's high time for new encryption libraries and legislation that actively protects the right for users to encrypt and the agreements between service providers and users to provide se...
[12:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02ive been screaming for years - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 765 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:20:15] <exec> 08└─that SSL and TLS are a battlefield of special interests and have been so thoroughly compromised, that its meaningless to call SSL for "security measure" anymore. Dont get me wrong, that math is probably fine, the methods are tested, the review is rigorous. (boy i hope so) BUT THE IMPLEMENTATIONS ARE...
[12:20:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Civil Disobedience at It's Best! - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:23] <exec> 08└─Fluffeh wrote :- The best way to make the sheeples see how things impact them is to show them how things impact them.
[12:20:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fauxlosopher [4804] (Score:1) 02Re:This is unusual in what way? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:27] <exec> 08└─perhaps even used unofficially for more harmful purposes
[12:20:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:This is unusual in what way? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:29] <exec> 08└─That would be one unofficial use.
[12:20:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:This is unusual in what way? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:30] <exec> 08└─Because the NSA is listening to all of that, storing it, analysing it, and filing it away for future use. J. Edgar Hoover used information just like that to try to destroy people like Martin Luther King back in the 1960s. Maybe today the NSA doesn't care about what you're saying, but perhaps someday...
[12:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:20:32] <exec> 08└─Could actions like these ... succeed at driving home the real impact of NSA spying to the general public in a way that hasn't been managed yet?
[12:20:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:No - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:33] <exec> 08└─AC wrote :- even though the NSA is "secretly" recording conversations like these, they are not publishing them on an easy-to-access website
[12:20:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 704 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:44] <exec> 08└─But this isn't just about trade between nations. This is about increasing the power of corporations in very draconian ways. We don't need more draconian copyright enforcement, or a corporation's 'expected profits' becoming something like a natural right to the extent that they can sue sovereign gove...
[12:20:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:47] <exec> 08└─You do realise China is specifically excluded in this trade agreement...
[12:20:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:49] <exec> 08└─The targets cant possibly be Chinese. They are not party to the treaty.
[12:20:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 115 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:52] <exec> 08└─Trade between nations is, in general, a good thing that increases prosperity for citizens of both or all countries.
[12:20:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:54] <exec> 08└─It's not about free trade stupid. It's about increasing the power of monopolies and corporations. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] You should be concerned when "free trade" laws can trump whatever other laws governments make, un...
[12:21:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:headlines you read 3 times - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:21:27] <exec> 08└─No, it clearly states that a Russian think tank with name "App" is catching protesters.
[12:21:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Uh-Huh. - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:21:29] <exec> 08└─> crack down on all those subversive CIA-funded "activist" groups Which puts activists non affiliated with CIA in a delicate position. Either with Putin or with CIA there, with POTUS or with terrorists on the other side.
[12:21:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So Same Shit -Different Shingle? - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:21:34] <exec> 08└─How is this different from that the NSA is doing?
[12:21:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:So Same Shit -Different Shingle? - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:21:36] <exec> 08└─The only difference is that protests are specifically allowed in the US and many EU countries. Doesn't mean you aren't tracked, or that the local police don't know you are coming while you are still packing your bags.
[12:21:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Summary: Don't use social media - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:21:39] <exec> 08└─No, the smart protester replies "not this time, I have to go shopping." And then leaves the house with a shopping list. If they happen to spontaneously protest along the way, well, sometimes it happens.
[12:21:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:21:46] <exec> 08└─Stalin, the Georgian, killed millions of Russians: people who had conquered Georgia. It's obvious why he didn't care about Russians. Georgians today were recently at war with Russians again.
[12:21:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If royssia is orthodox ... - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:21:48] <exec> 08└─Why is marrying little girls bad and taboo. Look in your bible: Deuteonomy 22 28-29, hebrew. Isn't royssia orthodox now? Doesn't Jesus say the law won't be gone till the heaven and earth is gone. The earth, certainly, is still here. Why can't you marry little girls? Why are you against it. The first...
[12:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:I don't see the problem - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:23:01] <exec> 08└─You are being a hole. I have to use windows on my work laptop, because my work software, any of it, does not run on linux. I can't help it. Once again someone selfish does not understand what other people have to suffer and makes ignorant comments. Not everything is about you and your choises.
[12:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:23:16] <exec> 08└─I'm testing Qupzilla. It does have a adblock and cookie manager, but no noscript type of deal yet. It does have a button ( statusbar icons extension) to enable/disable javascript, but it's all or nothing (for that current tab).
[12:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTTP for all? Yes, please? - 06Verizon Switching All Central Offices From Copper to Fiber - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:23:59] <exec> 08└─as well as "it was shitty before I started, don't ask me to level and repave" savings.
[12:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cost savings passed on to the consumer? - 06Verizon Switching All Central Offices From Copper to Fiber - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:24:09] <exec> 08└─Read that quote again: It says Verizon can pass some of the savings on to the customer. Nowhere does it say Verizon will pass some of the savings on to the customer.
[12:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:will it work? - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:24:59] <exec> 08└─So the net effect is to encourage people to be people in debt rather than have savings. And that's a good thing how?
[12:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:will it work? - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:00] <exec> 08└─So the net effect is to encourage people to be people in debt rather than have savings.
[12:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Job losses - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 1456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:29] <exec> 08└─> There are 2 other factors for why the Econ 101 answer of "higher wages means less employment" is wrong: > - If the business could manage with fewer workers, they would already have done so. So we'll take the current MSNBC/bookstore case - guy employs 5. If he could get by with 4 he would. Therefor...
[12:25:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Job losses - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:29] <exec> 08└─Sure, they're biassed, you can tell from the first line, but so are you.
[12:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Take Our Jobs - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:39] <exec> 08└─I think we found our irrational gweg_ hater. Forget to click the anonymous check box? Seriously, chill the fuck out. Your blood pressure is through the roof.
[12:26:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Seriously, not a problem. - 06Moderation Roundtable - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:45] <exec> 08└─Just to chip in with a bit of re-writing, add missing links, provide updates etc. AFAIK it worked pretty well at the green site.
[12:26:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously, not a problem. - 06Moderation Roundtable - 1931 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:46] <exec> 08└─I appreciate that the suggestion is well intentioned - but to be honest that is the editor's role. In addition, we have to check that we are not leaving ourselves open to litigation, that the format follows our own documented standards, submissions do not contain an unfair political bias etc. One th...
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[13:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:19:36] <exec> 08└─The way I see it HBM, which is TSV stacked, will replace GDDR5 and there will never be a GDDR6. Everything that can be stacked will be stacked. V-NAND will solve/delay NAND endurance issues for years. Eventually processors will be stacked.
[13:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 891 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:19:37] <exec> 08└─The big problem with stacking is heat. Would have happened years ago if not for that. But then. heat is a big problem everywhere in circuit design. Parallelism, going wide, is the way forward for now. Doubt we'll move up from 64bit any time soon. There was a compelling reason to move from 32bit, whi...
[13:19:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:19:39] <exec> 08└─Fuckit, I ain't buying any more PC stuff until the boffins work out which is actually better.
[13:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:that's not a wind tower - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 1123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:19:48] <exec> 08└─Personally I don't trust any company which can't tell the difference between a *demonstration* of their technology, and a crappy CGI animation of what they hope happens. They are *lifting* water 2250' to the top (costing lots of energy, E = mgh), evaporating it (presumably mostly for free), and then...
[13:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Obligatory - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:19:52] <exec> 08└─The power station in that picture is producing vastly more power than the little wind turbine there. You need to think in terms of Eyesoreness-per-kilowatt; looks like you would need over ten thousand of those little wind turbines spread over the countryside to equal that power station. Conventional...
[13:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And there just might be - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:55] <exec> 08└─some surveillance gear up there too. But nobody could figure out how it got there.
[13:20:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Shouldn't they be using different primes? - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:20:21] <exec> 08└─I actually only meant it as a joke, because it sounds like all servers are using the same single prime number. But I still got Insightful.
[13:20:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:1) 02Re:CVE-2015-4000? - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:20:24] <exec> 08└─Thanks. That will make it easier to track now and especially in the future. The weakdh site appears to have been registered a two weeks ago in preparation for the hype and no telling how long the domain or even the site will stick around.
[13:20:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Logjammin' - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:30] <exec> 08└─Dude: "He fixes the cable?" Maude: "Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey."
[13:20:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rand Paul to delay Fast Track vote... for 1 hou - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:21:00] <exec> 08└─Mod the parent up "informative". Let's at least get the gist of the issue at hand. And then rant. :)
[13:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Hair - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:22] <exec> 08└─LOL!!! Maybe the combined masses of those two egos are the source of that Dark Matter the astrophysicists are wondering about. If the universe finds it as repelling as I do, that could account for the expansion of the universe as it tries to get away!
[13:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Hair - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:24] <exec> 08└─'Back in the day' he would be called 'husky', and clothing came in 'Husky' sizes for us fat kids. (then the term changed to 'stocky')
[13:25:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] 02How many hours do you work to afford a Big Mac? - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 367 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:12] <exec> 08└─Look up The Big Mac index. Those who reside in countries with higher minimum wages typically work fewer hours to afford a meal. While you will cost your employer more money if the minimum wage is increased, you will also have more disposable income. You'll be able to spend money on things that you o...
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[14:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:23] <exec> 08└─I don't follow that part.
[14:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Where do I get my cut - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:31] <exec> 08└─I will ashamedly admit that I inadvertently signed up for the bill me later service several years ago when first starting to use Paypal. I just wanted to draw the money from my account, but it instead did this bill me later service, which apparently ended up accruing late fees and interest for sever...
[14:19:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dale [539] (Score:2) 02bank - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:32] <exec> 08└─If Paypal wants to act like a bank they should have to follow the requirements of a bank. In this case, if they want to offer a credit card or line of credit, they should have to follow the normal banking regulations the rest of the industry has to follow.
[14:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:that's not a wind tower - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:52] <exec> 08└─The only one which doesn't fight convection, but uses it for generation has this classic piece of really really trustworthy science: "... SUT demonstration ... in 2012, 7 metre stack and 100 square metre collector, ... 6.34 mW" i.e. 0.06 mW/m^2 "... collector area is expected to extract about 0.5 pe...
[14:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:that's not a wind tower - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:53] <exec> 08└─I had the exact same thought. It's "free" energy only if you don't consider that the water has to be pumped upstairs first, and you're never going to get all of that back. And I'm wondering just who is going to pay for all that water in the desert, and how much will be lost in the process (sounds li...
[14:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:that's not a wind tower - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:55] <exec> 08└─If the guy says "There's nothing in this tower that is new, magic wizardry, unproven science or unproven devices right now - right down to the pumps, the turbines, the generators," - then where's the proof. Where're the 1/8th, 1/16th, 1/32nd and 1/64th-scale models *showing* that this is viable.
[14:20:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Fluffeh [954] 02Civil Disobedience at It's Best! - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 550 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:20:46] <exec> 08└─The best way to make the sheeples see how things impact them is to show them how things impact them. All to often it seems that the folks that should be getting outraged aren't because they cannot process or imagine how it will afect THEM as individuals. "I don't have any secrets... why do I care if...
[14:20:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Good possibility that these are fake - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:20:57] <exec> 08└─In other words, the people in the recordings were willing participants. It's pretty easy to track down who owns the website, and they would want to avoid Federal prosecution.
[14:21:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:21:17] <exec> 08└─So it's fine if hundreds of outfits in China counterfeit Western physical and digital goods?
[14:21:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Penal Colony - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:21:32] <exec> 08└─Well, it's not so bad. After all, it could be raining drop-bears instead of little spiders!
[14:21:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I, for one, - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:21:45] <exec> 08└─Arachnado.
[14:22:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Hari Seldon - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 90 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:09] <exec> 08└─At least get his name right. And Minority Report was originally a story by Philip K. Dick.
[14:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Foreskin Restoration - 06L'Oréal to 3D-Print Human Skin - 3454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:29] <exec> 08└─Perhaps. The foreskin is more than just skin; the tendon that allows it to keep the glans an internal organ except during sexual arousal also needs to be replaced. There are probably other glands that would need to be included since the foreskin's primary function is not only to protect the glans bu...
[14:23:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't see the problem - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:35] <exec> 08└─Well, golly gosh, I'm sure glad that my concern that a popular browser is heading in a direction that makes it easier to commodify my data really doesn't depend on whether you're sympathetic to my OS choice. Oh, and nice red herring you've got there.
[14:24:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Lynx - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 156 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:11] <exec> 08└─You can benefit from using Lynx without using it, spoof your user agent to Lynx, makes some sites like Google load their legacy, HTML-only search interface.
[14:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:FTTP for all? Yes, please? - 06Verizon Switching All Central Offices From Copper to Fiber - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:33] <exec> 08└─I saw it there - even in the middle.. It did excite me, although I managed to keep my pants from tenting.. Hopefully it comes to pass, I've been dreaming of getting fiber to my house for years..
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[15:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:26] <exec> 08└─They're complaining that Facebook and Google may present different information to different users that may influence who they vote for. As if the deluge of mailings and commercials on TV and streaming services every other fall doesn't tell voters who to vote for. Critics allege that algorithms are...
[15:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 1219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:27] <exec> 08└─Basically its the 'facebook feed' problem. Your friends are of a particular political ideal. So you maybe 'like' a couple of things they have to say (neither 'side' is that unreasonable on some issues). Suddenly your facebook feed slowly turns into that particular political persuasion. Basically it...
[15:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03GlennC [3656] (Score:2) 02Working as Designed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:29] <exec> 08└─Ever realize that it's becoming more difficult to place blame on any one person or organization?
[15:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 843 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:31] <exec> 08└─our entire society and in turn government is based on money which is bad because money is used to manipulate the government and in turn fucks over our society in order for the rich to get more money. it's a bad scheme altogether that rewards the rich based on how badly they can manipulate people and...
[15:19:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:1) 02Bill Me Later... - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:40] <exec> 08└─I (intentionally) used Bill Me Later to pay for an expensive camera years ago, but I didn't have any of the problems described. I think that if I'd taken longer than the introductory no interest period to pay it back, I would have had to pay all of the interest, even that which would have accrued du...
[15:19:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03GlennC [3656] (Score:2) 02And they wonder why I don't use it... - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:41] <exec> 08└─I've had several people ask me why I don't use PayPal. Now I have yet another reason. Thanks!
[15:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:51] <exec> 08└─http://gtresearchnews.gatech.edu/newsrelease/half-terahertz.htm [gatech.edu] The silicon-germanium heterojunction bipolar transistors built by the IBM-Georgia Tech team operated at frequencies above 500 GHz at 4.5 Kelvins (451 degrees below zero Fahrenheit) - a temperature attained using liquid hel...
[15:20:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:that's not a wind tower - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:20:05] <exec> 08└─Do you really not know the difference between up and down? Perhaps you are one of the "scientists" behind one of these two designs, that would explain a lot of things.
[15:20:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:And there just might be - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:20:13] <exec> 08└─Why? There's already spy satellites, the X-37B, portable cell tower spoofing, drones, and even spy blimps. All more capable than a stationary wind turbine.
[15:20:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Important paper - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 1282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:20:37] <exec> 08└─From the website: "We further estimate that an academic team can break a 768-bit prime and that a nation-state can break a 1024-bit prime. " I was going to write a post blasting that claim, as the world record (academia) is 596 bits. However, I decided to do some calculations, and came up with an co...
[15:20:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:SMTP/IMAP - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:20:48] <exec> 08└─It's high time for new encryption libraries
[15:20:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02What about servers without export ciphers? - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:20:51] <exec> 08└─For a while now security mavens have recommended that web admins disable the weak export ciphers (e.g. with SSLCipherSuite "... !EXP"
[15:20:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Could actions like these succeed? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 122 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:21:00] <exec> 08└─No. They might actually give cover if the NSA actually ever were so amateurish as to have some of their gear found.    
[15:21:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Good possibility that these are fake - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:21:13] <exec> 08└─There is no expectation of privacy in a public space. What would make this even more effective, is if the recordings included the participants names, addresses, and phone numbers.
[15:21:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Good possibility that these are fake - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:21:14] <exec> 08└─There is no expectation of privacy in a public space.
[15:21:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Good possibility that these are fake - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:21:15] <exec> 08└─Are you sure the context is the same? That is frequently the case for phone conversations, but those are not public like two people walking down the street and conversing. If NY does have such a law, it would make video recordings of the police extremely problematic.
[15:21:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:21:36] <exec> 08└─The ends don't justify the means. Accepting draconian laws or trade agreements to supposedly better enforce copyrights and patents is absurd. Freedom must prevail. But this won't do anything to fix the little 'problem' you mention, anyway.
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[16:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:27] <exec> 08└─I can only see multi-car families move towards being single-car families if and only if it is allowed for driverless cars to be on the road without occupants (which no-one seems to be talking about). If that would be allowed (which is a BIG if, because there is no 'driver' to take over/supervise the...
[16:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:28] <exec> 08└─Man, it would be pretty trippy to see totally empty cars barreling down the interstate though.
[16:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Johnny Cab from Total Recall - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 1123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:30] <exec> 08└─So basically, people will stop buying multiple cars because robot cabs will be so cheap? I'm not so sure about that. Certainly, cheaper cab rides means people will tend to use them more. I think services like Uber, Lyft and SideCar have demonstrated this. However, I don't really see there being enou...
[16:19:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Johnny Cab from Total Recall - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:31] <exec> 08└─However, I don't really see there being enough robot cabs to get everyone to work in the morning. So anyone with any significant commute will probably still need their vehicle.
[16:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 1312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:33] <exec> 08└─So, I've got a few kids and on Wednesday nights they need to sometimes arrive at three different places at the same time. Options are: 1. teleportation 2. multiple vehicles 3. staggered arrival times These predictions of a drop-off in car sales fail to account for peak usage. I often get my kids to...
[16:19:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:42] <exec> 08└─The decision maker was the one who said "let's put the likely race match based on name (or zip code) into the business intelligence regression and see what correlations it comes up with." So a human decision maker (programmer) could remove those heuristics, sure.
[16:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:44] <exec> 08└─OK, but it's like direct mail. Since I'm a registered Democrat I get a flood of mail, not just from the DNC and various Democratic politicians soliciting contributions, but also from environmentalists like the Sierra Club, Planned Parenthood, etc. Some of them have names like "Bill Clinton" or "Mich...
[16:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:46] <exec> 08└─It is the filter bubble [wikipedia.org] problem. We are all limited by our experiences, and so much of the modern world is experienced through the invisible decisions of computers. For example, Google keeps the inner workings of their PageRank algorithm a secret (for all kinds of good reasons, like...
[16:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:48] <exec> 08└─Can I have a unicorn too?
[16:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:50] <exec> 08└─I see your utopian system (and thus, by my choice of words, you can see that I, too, would think that is a better place to be in) but who's paying for the power and raw materials of those machines? Who's paying for making the machines? Who's paying for designing the machines or the machines that mak...
[16:19:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dale [539] 02bank - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 256 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:58] <exec> 08└─If Paypal wants to act like a bank they should have to follow the requirements of a bank. In this case, if they want to offer a credit card or line of credit, they should have to follow the normal banking regulations the rest of the industry has to follow.
[16:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:bank - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:59] <exec> 08└─To be fair, actual banks pull this kind of shit too. I once was a bit lax in inspecting my credit card statements for a year and found that Bank of America signed me up for some 3rd party "credit protection service" without my permissions. After an angry email to BoA management and the company invol...
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[16:20:12] <exec> 08└─The problem with wide bus on the PCB is the amount of space it takes, and the compexity of synch across the lanes. Serial is easier to route if you embed the clock, because skew doesn't matter. But latency takes a huge hit, which stinks for CPU random accesses (cache miss). The advantage of HBM is t...
[16:20:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:Gigawatts a Year? - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 544 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:20:31] <exec> 08└─page 14: The technical potential for land-based wind energy for the contiguous United States is estimated to be 12,000 GW of generating capacity at 100- meter (m) hub height (NREL 2010a)—assuming a net capacity factor of at least 26%; and the technical potential for offshore wind energy is estimat...
[16:20:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:And there just might be - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:20:34] <exec> 08└─Permanency and cost... But considering the vibration levels, distance, and those pesky blades trying to induce epileptic seizures on the guy behind the screen, I'm not sure it's better than putting that camera on a utility pole.
[16:20:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:40,000 deaths versus ~6 - 06Takata Airbag Defect Leads to Largest Automotive Recall in U.S. History - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:20:44] <exec> 08└─I was on scene a minute after an accident, a few months back. The side of a sedan had been shredded by a pickup (fast moving sedan vs carelessly maneuvering truck). I'm pretty sure that the people inside were glad to have airbag fabric between the pieces of the shattered windows and their skin. As l...
[16:21:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Good possibility that these are fake - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 1442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:21:38] <exec> 08└─#include stdDisclaimer.IANAL I agree with you that the context is very different; however, in practice the wiretap laws have been extended far beyond recording of phone conversations and are applied to any voice recording regardless of context. A quick bit of searching turned up an interesting artic...
[16:21:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good possibility that these are fake - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:21:39] <exec> 08└─There is no expectation of privacy in a public space.
[16:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:22:59] <exec> 08└─You're seriously saying that a couple social and economic ideas are worth more than millions of human lives?
[16:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Open4D [371] (Score:2) 02Re:Pale Moon! - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:42] <exec> 08└─Me too. It is worth noting that this is also possible without using multiple browsers. I have several Firefox profiles, which can be in use simultaneously. (And it seems that something similar is also possible in Chrome.) http://www.howtogeek.com
[16:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously, not a problem. - 06Moderation Roundtable - 2166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:57] <exec> 08└─Uhhhh...no it doesn't, it only shows the last 2 user mods which doesn't show modbombing. For example look at this post [soylentnews.org] which according to that has only been modded three times, 2 interesting and 1 overrated. yet when I go to my inbox (which of course I can't show you since the link...
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[17:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:29] <exec> 08└─Pfff... finally those robots can get stuck in traffic just like us meatbags... That'll teach them!
[17:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:30] <exec> 08└─Which is the point I was about to make: does it make sense to believe people will send their car crawling 20 miles back home while they work, meaning they don't have it near (nor the gun under the seat) if Dem Terrorists come? It might work in Europe/Asia, but obviously someone is forgetting how fie...
[17:19:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:32] <exec> 08└─(which is a BIG if, because there is no 'driver' to take over/supervise the computer if needed)
[17:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:33] <exec> 08└─Sure, /you/ may get used to it, but what about your insurance company? They won't get used to not having a driver they can squeeze like a lemon and blame if something goes wrong. Neither will your car manufacturer be willing to insure their entire produced fleet as 'they' are now effectively the dri...
[17:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:35] <exec> 08└─They won't get used to not having a driver they can squeeze like a lemon and blame
[17:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:37] <exec> 08└─While I think you are wrong about everything you wrote, the easiest one to refute is this: > no-one (save a couple of dudes who don't know what to do with their money) Nissan has sold over 70,000 leafs [greencarreports.com]. You can pick up a used Leaf for well under $15,000. [cargurus.com]
[17:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Taibhsear [1464] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:38] <exec> 08└─"IIRC, your regular taxi driver charges WAY less than uber." I take it you either haven't taken a taxi in a while or don't live in a large city. In Chicago the taxis are typically twice the price of uber or lyft.
[17:19:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:40] <exec> 08└─I just took (yet another) taxi ride and I think it came down to 1.37 per mile. I don't know anything about Chicago, I try to avoid that place!
[17:19:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MozeeToby [1118] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:41] <exec> 08└─If you allow empty cars the economics of Taxi's in general change dramatically. If that comes to pass, the future isn't single car households, it's car clubs with 20 or 30 people and 10 cars. Having more people in the queue means that it's less likely to be a problem even if different family members...
[17:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Johnny Cab from Total Recall - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:43] <exec> 08└─until your robotaxi arrives
[17:19:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Johnny Cab from Total Recall - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:45] <exec> 08└─So basically, people will stop buying multiple cars because robot cabs will be so cheap?
[17:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:46] <exec> 08└─With only two adults in the family (typical for a modern family until the oldest kid grows up), there's no chance to bring three kids simultaneously to three different places anyway. Unless one of the kids takes a taxi, of course … which then could be a driverless taxi.
[17:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:48] <exec> 08└─Since it is impossible to be at three different places at the same time, not everyone is satisfied today. Therefore you can't claim that if not everyone is satisfied tomorrow, somehow something has changed. It will still be impossible to be at three different places at the same time. Ahh, but if you...
[17:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No worries for Detroit... - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:19:49] <exec> 08└─...By that point cars will be engineered to be obsolete in less than half the present time they are now, anyway. Oh, and I find it unsurprising that people working for Barclays would seriously expect that a modern 2-car 2-person-working household would be able to get rid of one of them. Well, yes, w...
[17:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Just Fine Thank You Very Much - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:19:51] <exec> 08└─My wife and I share a car now without a problem. It saves us several thousand dollars a year and is rarely an inconvenience.
[17:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just Fine Thank You Very Much - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:53] <exec> 08└─Only in last few years, my wife and I had two cars and now one of them is being driven full time a daughter, we are back to one. For almost 20yrs, we had 1 car and 3 kids! Yes, there was minor scheduling issues, but I worked with-in 15minutes from where I lived and that was in 6 major cities across...
[17:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just Fine Thank You Very Much - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:54] <exec> 08└─> My wife and I share a car now without a problem. It saves us several thousand dollars a year and is rarely an inconvenience. You are an exception. Average number of cars per household in the USA is slightly under 2.0. [streetsblog.org]
[17:20:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:01] <exec> 08└─We can't decide if programmers are misogynist assholes who refuse to let women have the secret sauce that makes programming easy or if they're a bunch of wizards practicing a mysterious art who shout at bugs, “Flame of Udûn! You shall not pass!”
[17:20:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:09] <exec> 08└─what if we just remove money from the equation and just made everything machines automated completely free? this would require a paradigm shift toward 100% recycling, 0% pollution and 100% open designs (for everything) but jobs would become voluntary
[17:20:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:10] <exec> 08└─> If jobs become voluntary, why would anyone want to work? Because sitting on your ass all day long gets boring. Some people enjoy the sense of accomplishment. As the saying goes, "Find something you love to do and you’ll never have to work a day in your life."
[17:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:12] <exec> 08└─Maintenance machines will maintain other machines. Maintenance machines will even maintain other maintenance machines.
[17:20:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:13] <exec> 08└─If jobs become voluntary, why would anyone want to work?
[17:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Disagree - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:20:15] <exec> 08└─Algorithms ensured you didn’t hear about #FreddieGray on Twitter.
[17:20:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Where do I get my cut - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:22] <exec> 08└─I've seen this too, they were very aggressive in trying to get you sign up for Bill Me Later, especially when purchasing something via PayPal. Even when you had 10 times the purchase price sitting in your paypal balance. There have been times then the Use Paypal balance is so downplayed on the page...
[17:20:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:And they wonder why I don't use it... - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 1699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:27] <exec> 08└─Uhhh...you DO know its REALLY easy to use Paypal and never have to worry about this kinda shit, right? Just pick up a one time use credit card when you want to use Paypal and only use that card and you don't have to worry about any bullshit.   And as much as I think Paypal, blows ass its pretty mu...
[17:20:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:37] <exec> 08└─> Eventually processors will be stacked. I think we can expect to see gigabytes of ram stacked on the cpus for high-bandwidth, low-latency access. Like a sort of L4 cache.
[17:20:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 1917 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:40] <exec> 08└─Actually this is not surprising, as the 00s were all "speed is key" until first Intel and then everybody else smacked right into the thermal wall. Everybody remembers what a dog slow giant piece of shit the P4 Netburst arch was and most act like it was a "what were they thinking?" brainfart but it a...
[17:20:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03monster [1260] (Score:2) 02Re:Obligatory - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:58] <exec> 08└─Eyesoreness is highly subjective [britannica.com].
[17:21:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:40,000 deaths versus ~6 - 06Takata Airbag Defect Leads to Largest Automotive Recall in U.S. History - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:21:14] <exec> 08└─That isn't what is gonna bust their ass, its the fact that according to TFA they knew the bags were defective in 2004 and instead of doing anything about it continued to sell them, even when one of their plants were seeing defect rates 6-8 times what should have been expected. Remember not that many...
[17:21:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03monster [1260] (Score:2) 02Re:Shouldn't they be using different primes? - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:21:34] <exec> 08└─Well, looks like your joke agrees with Bruce Schneier [schneier.com]: The good news is now that we know reusing prime numbers is a bad idea, we can stop doing it.
[17:21:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Civil Disobedience at It's Best! - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:21:56] <exec> 08└─Won't work because the majority think they are special snowflakes and it will NEVER happen to them, nosireebob. I mean how many years has it been common knowledge that most are broadcasting their porn habits to the world [vice.com] but you haven't seen a mass outcry for Google and all these datamine...
[17:22:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is unusual in what way? - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:03] <exec> 08└─but perhaps someday you might run for public office or become an activist
[17:22:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:No - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:08] <exec> 08└─If I make a date with a hooker over the phone, at least it's just between me, her and the NSA, and not my wife too.
[17:22:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good possibility that these are fake - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:16] <exec> 08└─For instance, you generally can't stick a camera under someone's skirt and take a picture; not even in a public place
[17:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03everdred [110] (Score:2) 02Re:headlines you read 3 times - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:16] <exec> 08└─Writer here. Yep, "title case" headlines like these are over-formal and often awkward and confusing. Save the caps for proper nouns.
[17:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:32] <exec> 08└─Stalin was Georgian, not Russian. The people millions he killed were not his countrymen. They were the descendants of the enemies of his countrymen.
[17:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:1) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:08] <exec> 08└─Does Palemoon still exclude the accessibility features that Firefox has? This is the primary reason I never switched to it.
[17:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Pale Moon! - 06Mozilla Integrates Propietary Pocket Plugin - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:20] <exec> 08└─I learned my lesson when I started seeing ads in Facebook for stuff I searched for on eBay.
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[18:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Whine - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:21] <exec> 08└─    There's no such thing as anthropogenic climate change!
[18:19:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Whine - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:22] <exec> 08└─Whoops, I had tags in there that got stripped out... <self-entitled whine>     There's no such thing as anthropogenic climate change! </self-entitled while<
[18:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Whine - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:24] <exec> 08└─At least you are not being arrogant! http://www.cnn.com [cnn.com]
[18:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nice - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:25] <exec> 08└─So if you believe climate change is man-made, you should reduce coal power in order to reduce climate change. If you believe climate change is of natural cause, you should reduce coal power in order to prevent losses. In both cases, the result is the same, reduce coal power and invest in renewable t...
[18:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Predictable Reactionary Response - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:27] <exec> 08└─This is why we need to end the immigration invasion now! Dry land cannot support many people. See: LA. We wouldn't be reliant on burning coal if you green commie pinkos didn't get in the damn way of good old fashioned American nucular power!
[18:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Brownouts in coal country - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:29] <exec> 08└─The laws of physics go on working whether or not you believe in them, but I'm sure deniers of anthropogenic climate change will be able to convince themselves the lights are actually on when they flip the switch and nothing happens.
[18:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:3, Informative) 02End the fossil fuel subsidies - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:30] <exec> 08└─According to the IMF, fossil fuels are subsidized to a tune of $10million per minute [theguardian.com]. That needs to be taken into the calculations for total costs when they whine that renewables are "expensive". If we were to simply cut all fossil fuel subsidies We'd have a much cleaner place and...
[18:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:46] <exec> 08└─Your ideas are intriguing to me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter
[18:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Johnny Cab from Total Recall - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:51] <exec> 08└─That's a great idea! Instead of rush hour being limited to just a couple of hours in the morning and the evening, you can now have rush hour 24 hours a day with all these empty cars zipping back and fro between 'hubby' and 'wifey'! Hurray for efficiency!
[18:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Johnny Cab from Total Recall - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:53] <exec> 08└─Not really. You haven't increased the population size. You've reduced the amount of vehicles on the roads. The amount of roads remains the same. Why would you expect "rush hour" 24 hours a day? Sure, there would be more traffic on average, but the actual rush hour "peak" traffic would be far lower....
[18:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 920 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:58] <exec> 08└─That's correct, I'm saying that both now and in the driverless future this problem will be the same, and will have the same level of dissatisfaction given the same number of vehicles available. I'm also saying that staggering is a suboptimal solution; it causes problems that didn't exist before (arr...
[18:19:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:59] <exec> 08└─> So, I've got a few kids and on Wednesday nights they need to sometimes arrive at three different places at the same time > >I don't think my situation is unusual, and I don't see it changing any time soon. I think your situation is unusual. In the USA average number of children per married couple...
[18:20:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:2, Informative) 02How? (Re:Just Fine Thank You Very Much) - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:04] <exec> 08└─When my wife and I had a single car, it resulted in thousands of additional miles of travelling:   - she'd have to take me to work   - returning to home (extra trip)   - run errands during the day   - pick me up at work (extra trip)   - return home   - I'd then take her to work   - return ho...
[18:20:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Typical everyone lives in a big city BS - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:06] <exec> 08└─You country folk need to get your act together... or to put it in inflamatory terms: UncleDaddy told me and SisterMommy that we should all move to the big city
[18:20:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 2067 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:16] <exec> 08└─You might be on to something. I remember when I used to visit virtual spaces (MOOs, MUDs, etc) and I took an interest in how I might be able to program one (late 80s). I was never able to find any books at my local library about it. Eventually I noticed something odd about the Dewey Decimal system....
[18:20:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:19] <exec> 08└─I know most people here hate Twitter, lumping it in with Facebook et al, but I actually liked it (until recently) for the reason you describe. Twitter didn't attempt to filter or curate your feed. You select which accounts to follow and you just get a real time firehose of everything they post. Now...
[18:20:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 1006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:22] <exec> 08└─You have an excellent point, and I consider it a very valid one. It is indeed all too easy to get caught up like that! That is one of the reasons that I value websites like this very one we are on now. Despite it's faults, the SN community is pretty knowledgeable and diverse in many areas/fields, an...
[18:20:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:28] <exec> 08└─Suppose an uber rich dude gave me a replicator robot. This robot first works a job and earns money for me This pays for raw materials. Each month this robot has the materials to replicate itself. I now have two robots. After a month I have over 1024 replicator robots working for me. 100 robots set o...
[18:20:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:29] <exec> 08└─Damn it: Should have read after 10 months, not after a month. Can we please have editing capabilities when our Karma is really high?
[18:20:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:31] <exec> 08└─who's paying for the power and raw materials of those machines? Who's paying for making the machines? Who's paying for designing the machines or the machines that make the machines?
[18:20:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trust the Computer - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:20:37] <exec> 08└─Trust the Computer. The Computer is Your Friend. Not trusting The Computer is Treason. Treason is punishable by death.
[18:20:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:bank - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 1110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:47] <exec> 08└─I believe the Paypal credit card is a standard credit card, transactions are handled by credit card clearing companies. Its just billed through to your paypal account first, then against what ever credit card you use to back your paypal account. They claim they aren't actually a bank, simply a trans...
[18:20:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Bill Me Later... - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:49] <exec> 08└─'m pretty sure I closed the account a few years back, but this article is reminding me to double check.
[18:20:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:And they wonder why I don't use it... - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 1591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:53] <exec> 08└─Yup, I agree, its damned convenient. And not hard to avoid any excessive charges. I heard all the rage stories, and before I signed up, I called them and asked them about account freeze horror stories. They explained that if you receive paypal funds routinely, (like I do for my day job) they expect...
[18:21:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Katastic [3340] (Score:2) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:21:04] <exec> 08└─I said the same thing on Slashdot a week or two ago and got zero up mods. Snarky bastards. The other issue is: >It may not be clocked high, but when it's that wide, it doesn't need to be. No, no, no, no and no. Latency does not scale with bus width. You can't get 9 women pregnant and expect a baby e...
[18:21:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Obligatory - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:21:27] <exec> 08└─Lets take a vote. Who here thinks that a bunch of wind turbines on the horizon is an eyesore? I do not.
[18:22:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] 02Re:Rand Paul to delay Fast Track vote... for 1 hou - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 263 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:53] <exec> 08└─"Fast track" just means that the Senate can only have an up-or-down vote on a treaty that was negotiated by the Executive Branch, they can't add amendments and send it back. This whole thing is still a bad idea, but not quite as bad as you're making it out to be.
[18:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:karma 'oring - 06Raining Spiders in Australia - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:22] <exec> 08└─Careful. Might not be venomous enough to kill you but it surely is enough to kill your cat...
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[19:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"except Canada" - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:19:23] <exec> 08└─Due it its use of the Candu Heavy Water Reactor, Canada has more Plutonium than anyone. Just sayin'.
[19:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12.c - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:19:24] <exec> 08└─So, since "legit" penetration companies already clear their stuff with the TLAs, and white hackers talk to companies before releasing details, who's the intended law-abiding target of this proposal?
[19:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03dak664 [2433] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Predictable Reactionary Response - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:37] <exec> 08└─My sarc detector is working, but here would be a good place to point out that nuclear power plants need even more water for cooling because they run about ~30% thermal efficiency as opposed to coal ~40%. Cooling towers reduce the exit steam enthalpy for a few percent efficiency increase, at the cost...
[19:19:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Predictable Reactionary Response - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:38] <exec> 08└─If we lined up the CA coast with nuclear reactors with cooling towers, that would not only fix the coal emissions issue, but also provide a nice continuous stream of vapor (drinkable water) where it's badly needed. Easy, right?
[19:19:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Predictable Reactionary Response - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:39] <exec> 08└─And excess heat could be used to evaporate (desalinate) sea water as well. Plus, if we line them up on both sides of the San Andreas fault, we could restore "balance" and positive karma bonuses to the fault to assuage its rage.
[19:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Predictable Reactionary Response - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:41] <exec> 08└─But the volcano gods would get jealous, so they need their own reactors up there too, lest they pull another Mt St Helens...
[19:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:End the fossil fuel subsidies - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:44] <exec> 08└─The vast sum is largely due to polluters not paying the costs imposed on governments by the burning of coal, oil and gas.
[19:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:End the fossil fuel subsidies - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:46] <exec> 08└─You do realize the fusion, and fission both need cooling water don't you? (That's what this article is about.) Also, your link was discussed a few days ago here on SN, the figure you quote is a world wide figure, and this SN discussion is US based. Further, these "subsidies", in the US, are NOT WHAT...
[19:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:1) 02Re:End the fossil fuel subsidies - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:47] <exec> 08└─There's a lot that is not covered in the figure either. It's hard to put a dollar value on the damage done by mountain topping [nationalgeographic.com], to name just one such travesty.
[19:19:48] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 801 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:19:49] <exec> 08└─Most big western utilities already have skin in the renewable game. Even the energy sector in Washington state, with a steady rain fall and the Columbia River, with a high percentage of hydro power, is buying and building Wind farms. (Washington and Oregon are actually tearing out in-efficient hydr...
[19:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:50] <exec> 08└─We need to eliminate the steam cycle.
[19:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:52] <exec> 08└─The real problem is Steam. Steam plants always require some form of cooling towers, and they require water, and they become less efficient as mean temperatures increase. And the evaporation loss from the cooling ponds mean you need more water daily.
[19:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Lots of assumptions... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:19:54] <exec> 08└─As near as I can tell from the first page and the illustrations (since the rest of the article is behind a paywall), they assume that (a) CO2 will cause droughts severe enough to reduce available water to cool power plants, that the type of power plants installed in 30-40 years will be the same as i...
[19:20:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Johnny Cab from Total Recall - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:12] <exec> 08└─Except my bus will then arrive at my door, not 2 miles down.
[19:20:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:18] <exec> 08└─That's true, and would result in one additional car on the road that isn't there now. Not a ringing endorsement of the author's claim of reduced car sales.
[19:20:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:23] <exec> 08└─You know, I was going to call you out on statistics abuse, but you understated your case. Current census numbers [census.gov] indicate that nationwide the average children per family is 0.9; this only goes up to 1.86 when you filter out the families with no children. (see table ST-F1-2000) I have to...
[19:20:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:25] <exec> 08└─God knows we don't want to smacks of public transportation
[19:20:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How? (Re:Just Fine Thank You Very Much) - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 859 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:31] <exec> 08└─I have one car with my wife. She needs it fairly rarely as she does not work. At those point yes it is a bit extra. But I work ~10-15 min drive away (about 5 miles). I would ride a bike if it were in any way safe (it is not). Yes it is double once and awhile. However I can clean that up a bit. - she...
[19:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:How? (Re:Just Fine Thank You Very Much) - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:32] <exec> 08└─> when one vehicle goes into the shop, there are still two for us to drive Unless your cars routinely spend weeks per year in the shop, you're way better off renting when you need. (Tell your teen that she can bike.)
[19:20:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:48] <exec> 08└─HA! I knew it. I get the same junk from the RNC. This is how you guys are spending the money we donate? Printing up thousands of pounds of GARBAGE!
[19:20:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GlennC [3656] 02Working as Designed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 96 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:20:52] <exec> 08└─Ever realize that it's becoming more difficult to place blame on any one person or organization?
[19:20:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02"Let them eat cake!" (but the cake is a lie) - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 1360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:59] <exec> 08└─Each cycle of the 'rise and fall of X' we have had to go through, those in power are absolutely sure that they have it figured out and won't fail, as did the previous bunch before them...ad nauseum. From the perspective of those of us at the bottom 30%, it is brutal at best, and hellish on the 'down...
[19:21:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:04] <exec> 08└─Maintenance machines will maintain other machines. Maintenance machines will even maintain other maintenance machines.
[19:21:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tathra [3367] 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 56 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:06] <exec> 08└─If jobs become voluntary, why would anyone want to work?
[19:21:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:08] <exec> 08└─So you're saying Free software definitely doesn't exist? In a world where money isn't useful to you and it won't be any extra work, why not freely share the solution you come up with to your own problem that others might also have? If a friend has a problem, people routinely help now, even if it inv...
[19:21:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the entire system is flawed - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:09] <exec> 08└─Capitalism may have its drawbacks, but at least there's opportunity.
[19:21:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Bright line tests vs Balancing tests - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:21:11] <exec> 08└─This problem already existed in legal theory. Bright line tests are clearer on what is and isn't allowed but ignore mitigating concerns on borderline cases. Balancing tests explicitly invoke a subjective comparison of multiple factors but people do not like trying to guess what someone else's subjec...
[19:21:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Algorithm, process - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:21:13] <exec> 08└─"The computer/network is down, so: I can't let you purchase this item I can't give you an estimate based on yesterday's data which we cache at our local site/PC I can't process or even collect a written request for our services I can't release something to you based on your ID and a couple questions...
[19:21:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Algorithms aren't cruel, people are cruel - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:21:14] <exec> 08└─People just assume that computers work. You and I know that's not always the case, but most people aren't engineers. Whenever I hear someone say "I'm sorry my computer isn't working" I reply "No, it's not your computer's fault, someone like me was slacking on the job."
[19:21:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Algorithms aren't cruel, people are cruel - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:16] <exec> 08└─"No, it's not your computer's fault, someone like me was slacking on the job." Tell that to the HD I just replaced...
[19:21:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:And they wonder why I don't use it... - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:31] <exec> 08└─The only thing that concerned me is that anyone that knows your checking account number can completely clean the account out whenever they want. Since checking accounts are literally free with my bank, I simply have them set up an empty separate account that I write paper checks and use for PayPal....
[19:21:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03GlennC [3656] (Score:2) 02Re:And they wonder why I don't use it... - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:32] <exec> 08└─I can also just use that one-time use card directly. It's not as though I buy from Chinese factories on a daily basis....or ever, for that matter.
[19:21:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:that's not a wind tower - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:58] <exec> 08└─It's pronounced JIGAWATT like in "GIGANTIC" and "dot GIF".
[19:22:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Shouldn't they be using different primes? - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:45] <exec> 08└─Maybe we have underestimated the number of idiots out there....
[19:23:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Denial! - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 173 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:03] <exec> 08└─Just want to say, I was not even in NYC during this time phrame! That doesn't even sound like me! My name is not "Josh", and I do not have a pet llama! Not me, just saying.
[19:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No - 06Anti-NSA Pranksters Planted Tape Recorders Across New York and Published Your Conversations - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:19] <exec> 08└─they are not publishing them on an easy-to-access website.
[19:26:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Delwin [4554] (Score:1) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Proprietary Pocket Plugin - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:23] <exec> 08└─Android: What about Dolphin?
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[20:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:"except Canada" - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:23] <exec> 08└─What are you talking about? Canada doesn't have much plutonium at all... It didn't even make the list. (Hint: The USA and Russia did...) http://fissilematerials.org [fissilematerials.org]
[20:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:25] <exec> 08└─Anonymous
[20:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Predictable Reactionary Response - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:42] <exec> 08└─Ah yes. We are Doomed! Doomed I say! Totally out of virgins to toss into the maw of the volcano.
[20:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Predictable Reactionary Response - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:43] <exec> 08└─I would rather see man-made floating islands(or something not right on CA land), but otherwise agree with you. I have this unrealistic and recurring fantasy/dream that someday soon, CA will split off and sink from a combination of 'the Perfect Earthquake' and 'the Perfect Mudslide'.(while an asteroi...
[20:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:End the fossil fuel subsidies - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:50] <exec> 08└─It should be pretty easy to put a dollar value on that. If you or any group doesn't want a coal company to basically level a mountain you could buy the damn mountain, the mineral rights, or what ever is needed to prevent it. Since no one seems to be doing this the cost is what ever the mining compan...
[20:19:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Well that's interesting... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:56] <exec> 08└─Because the climate is especially vulnerable to coal-fired plants.
[20:20:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:27] <exec> 08└─With driverless cars taxis will be cheaper, so that leads to it being more economical to get rid of the second car and just use taxies on the occasions where a second car would be needed for some families. Perhaps it wouldn't be worth it in your case, but I'm sure there are plenty of cases where tha...
[20:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:31] <exec> 08└─I wasn't trying to make a value judgement on public transportation, just pointing out that it is stigmatized; sorry if I wasn't clear. I really enjoyed using buses when I visited Europe, and I kinda wish they worked as well in the States. Regardless of my feelings or yours on the topic, ignoring the...
[20:20:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:How? (Re:Just Fine Thank You Very Much) - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:39] <exec> 08└─I described it as a convenience, not cost savings. That said, the third vehicle is a crew cab truck which we use for long vacation trips and enough hauling of material that getting a rental is prohibitively expensive compared to insurance (multi-vehicle discount), an annual inspection (which most ye...
[20:20:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:How? (Re:Just Fine Thank You Very Much) - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:41] <exec> 08└─(Tell your teen that she can bike.)
[20:20:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:How? (Re:Just Fine Thank You Very Much) - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:43] <exec> 08└─Really? Citation please?
[20:20:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 2067 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:55] <exec> 08└─You might be on to something. I remember when I used to visit virtual spaces (MOOs, MUDs, etc) and I took an interest in how I might be able to program one (late 80s). I was never able to find any books at my local library about it. Eventually I noticed something odd about the Dewey Decimal system....
[20:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The fringe from the left and right - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Update - 688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:02] <exec> 08└─Yes, I can see you bought into the comparative advantage theory of David Ricardo from the introductory Econ class you must've taken. In practice these trade agreements are used to disenfranchise workers in the wealthier country (who are often poor despite the fact that they live in a wealthy country...
[20:28:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Take Our Jobs - 06Los Angeles to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour by 2020 - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:58] <exec> 08└─we found our irrational gweg_ hater Don't think so. Pretty sure anti_gewg has never signed up for an account. The views jmorris holds are pretty extreme but he's not afraid to sign his name to them. Now, this latest tirade was extreme even for him. The Faux Noise code that he's using is too far off...
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[21:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Elementary, dear Watson - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:24] <exec> 08└─In security questions, never trust the other side.
[21:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Elementary, dear Watson - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 918 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:19:25] <exec> 08└─For computer security there are three rules: 0. Never turn on the computer. 1. If you turn on the computer, never connect it to another computer. 2. If you turn on the computer and connect it to a network, never let any non-sysadmin operate its clients. When it comes to robots.txt there are three ru...
[21:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Informative) 02Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:26] <exec> 08└─Shorter version of the story: Stupid people are stupid; film at 11. Robots.txt is not a security measure, the fact dumb people misunderstood that is on them. The purpose of robots.txt is to warn spiders away from areas of a site that will produce bad search results if crawled. If you are using it fo...
[21:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:19:28] <exec> 08└─I would like to submit that the phrase 'stupid people are stupid" should be used much less frequently. Everyone, Everywhere is stupid about something, and you never know the circumstances that put a person their position. I'll refer you back to the old saying: If you can't say something nice don't s...
[21:19:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03middlemen [504] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:19:39] <exec> 08└─who's the intended law-abiding target of this proposal?
[21:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:19:40] <exec> 08└─So basically a few companies making a living semi-openly selling zero-days (and probably most of their business is clandestine). Seems to me that even notifying a company outside the US of a vulnerability in software that they publish, could fall under this ruling.
[21:19:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03middlemen [504] (Score:2) 02Re:Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:19:41] <exec> 08└─(and probably most of their business is clandestine).
[21:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02So... - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:43] <exec> 08└─Good luck with that.
[21:19:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Shhhhhh-hhhh-hhhh-h-hhhhhh - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 1403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:45] <exec> 08└─Well, as a low-level driver dev and alternate OS dev I have discovered and logged many zero day exploits for every popular OS in my /with/great/power/comes/great/responsibility/ directory. If the governments of the world could find an unencrypted copy they'd save a little bit of money instead of jus...
[21:20:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:End the fossil fuel subsidies - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:20:05] <exec> 08└─The problem with this kind of accounting is that it is one-sided. The rise of industry, whatever we think about it now, has relied on electricity and steel... the production of which has relied on coal. The rise in industry allowed a rise in supportable population, better sanitation, and all kinds...
[21:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02thats easy. - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:14] <exec> 08└─why don't we heat the water with solarpowered immersion heater to drive the turbine? oh wait... better to pre cool the water with solar electrical driven airconditioners! oh wait ...
[21:20:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 1257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:20:50] <exec> 08└─A family that has/will-have/has-had n children, where n≥1, could go through 5 states: 0 children -- newlyweds, no children born<n children -- not all born yet n children -- all born, still living at home.<n children -- some have grown up and/or moved out0 children -- all gone. Of course there's ot...
[21:21:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:How? (Re:Just Fine Thank You Very Much) - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:21:03] <exec> 08└─Really [bicycleuniverse.info]. Lots of stats there.
[21:21:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Single car family? Yep. If they can only afford 1 - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:21:06] <exec> 08└─Just because I can't be in three places at once doesn't mean my family can't.
[21:21:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Bright line tests vs Balancing tests - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:21:44] <exec> 08└─The problem is that reality is sufficiently complex that there is always a residual problem. As long as we recognize that in the form of making sure someone always has the authority to decide against the algorithmic result and that that person's attention can be called to any disputed case, it can b...
[21:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pax [5056] (Score:1) 02Re:bank - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:00] <exec> 08└─They claim they aren't actually a bank, simply a transfer agent.
[21:22:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:20] <exec> 08└─No, no, no, no and no. Latency does not scale with bus width. You can't get 9 women pregnant and expect a baby every month. Have you tried pipelining?
[21:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:that's not a wind tower - 06Next Generation 460-Foot Towers To Bring Wind Power to All Fifty States - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:39] <exec> 08└─One of those links is not like the others. I'm rather skeptical that the "solar wind tower" featured in 4 of those 5 links will do what is claimed, but if it isn't government money being wasted building it (at least one of those articles states it isn't), then I'm happy to be proved wrong.
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[22:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02So will this translate to a new source of power? - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:24] <exec> 08└─So the volume property of the swelling magnet changes when exposed to a magnetic field? To accomplish work ie power (watts) then that magnetic field must vary. And that sounds kind of familiar.. like any AC generator. So in what way will it harvest any energy better than currently methods? It's an i...
[22:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Name - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:25] <exec> 08└─> Harsh Deep Chopra Hey, that's my porn name.
[22:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:36] <exec> 08└─> Everyone, Everywhere is stupid about something, and you never know the circumstances that put a person their position. I agree. It is just a way for someone to puff themselves up by feeling superior. Ironically it really just shows them to be immature and probably insecure. In this case, the fact...
[22:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:37] <exec> 08└─Which would take a few hours to work around by the scammers. Pull the robots.txt from a different IP block or with enough hours between them to avoid the filter, no prob. Real websites already have a better protection mech, they require a referrer field from the site to get at a lot of their content...
[22:19:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:39] <exec> 08└─Excuse me if I'm missing something, but that still seems backwards... Shouldn't stuff "the admin wishes to hide" be hidden from all but those proving they have the proper security credentials? This way, it's hidden by default, not dependent on some other process to properly filter it out?
[22:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:40] <exec> 08└─Denial of reality makes you a happier person, who would've thunk?
[22:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:43] <exec> 08└─When there's a benefit to confront people with the truth one should do so. In other cases there might be a benefit to not bring the matter up. Sometimes to the detriment of the group or person in question. When that group or person causes harm, one needs to take action like confrontation. In many or...
[22:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Random version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:44] <exec> 08└─Furthermore, most spiders identify themselves. Better than robots.txt: If you have multiple (sub)domains simply link them in a loop with (pseudo)random URLs, such as: a.com/rand-bot/1234.html < -- > b.com/rand-bot/1234.html and include */4567.html, */5678.html, etc. random entries in the lists of cr...
[22:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Interesting) 02robots.txt tar pit? - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:46] <exec> 08└─What about making a robots.txt tar pit? Make a page listed nowhere but in robots.txt (and coming very early there), and have the web server return an endless stream of arbitrary uninteresting data (say, an ordered list of all positive integers), but with pauses after each chunk; just enough to not h...
[22:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Make a booby trap - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:48] <exec> 08└─Include a path to booby trapped pages. Anyone accessing /ban/my/crawler.html then.. your wish is granted ;-) Other standard tricks is paths listed in crawler.txt that consists of Lorem ipsum text cross linked to infinity. And crawler.txt is NOT a security tool. It's a gentlemen agreement. Trespasser...
[22:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:59] <exec> 08└─0-day will drop if you want to legally sell it and report it on your tax return.
[22:20:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Treason, terrorism, and violating directive 12. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:20:01] <exec> 08└─What law forbids exports of these things inside EU? And what hinders export of some sneaky little lines of code?
[22:20:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02You bet. - 06U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:20:03] <exec> 08└─banning the export of zero-day vulnerabilities without permission ha ha ha ha ha hahahhahahahahaa
[22:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:20:31] <exec> 08└─That's not specific to steam, but a common feature of all processes that extract energy from heat.
[22:20:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Most big western utilities... - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:20:32] <exec> 08└─That doesn't matter. The restriction also applies to processes that are not, or not yet, commercially viable, and even to processes that haven't yet been invented.
[22:20:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:20:52] <exec> 08└─As for this, I won't trust self-driving cars unless they run Free Software and are free of privacy-invading nonsense.
[22:20:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Driverless and EMPTY cars? - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:20:53] <exec> 08└─I play this game with my kids called "When I was a boy....". I challenge them to come up with what they will tell their kids in 30 years just like I do now (When I was a boy we only had 3 TV channels and no remote), or my dad does (When I was a boy we didn't have TV). One of my kids came up with: Wh...
[22:21:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Won't apply to my family - 06Barclays Predicts Driverless Cars Will Kill Off the Multi-Car Household - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:21:11] <exec> 08└─My personal fear is that taxis, while cheaper, will be so disgusting no one will be able to use them. I am imagining short term rental driverless cars just a little less hygenic than amusement park rides. Especially at night. Yeurk. Kudos to the company that prides itself in spotless cars.
[22:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I trust PayPal with little stuff, not big ones - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 1186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:33] <exec> 08└─I like the convenience of Ebay/Paypal for buying cables and batteries and other little stuff. But if I buy something more than $20, I always give PayPal a one time use credit card. This saved me recently when I bought a $500 mobile phone on Ebay. Someone waited 4 months and then reported it lost to...
[22:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Getting caught and paying the fine - 06PayPal Could Face $25m Fine for Enrolling Customers Without Consent - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:34] <exec> 08└─is a cost of doing business this way. That won't change until people are prosecuted. High-level people, not the web developer or accountant or some such.
[22:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:vulnerabilities need cutesy names now - 06New TLS Encrypted Connection Vulnerability "Logjam" - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:56] <exec> 08└─Logjam isn't too far off from Assraper.
[22:25:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tftp [806] 02Re:This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 1923 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:53] <exec> 08└─Nikita Khruschev was the major figure that came after Stalin. He killed very few people (primarily Stalin's appointees like Beria.) However he killed something more important - he killed the Communist Party. He pushed for laws and regulations that removed oversight from party functionaries. Those la...
[22:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This will be widely supported - 06Pre-Thoughtcrime: Russian Think Tank App Catches Protesters Before They Protest - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:57] <exec> 08└─How many of those people would've affected the world in any significant or relevant fashion had they survived?
[22:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:2) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Proprietary Pocket Plugin - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:27] <exec> 08└─I've been using PaleMoon for close to two years now. It's great! Some addons have trouble because PaleMoon isn't going down the Australis part. BUT NoScript, Tree Style Tabs, BluHell Firewall, Request Policy Enhanced, CleanLinks, RefControl all work. There's a fork of HTTPS-Everywhere called Encrypt...
[22:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:2) 02Re:iceweasel - 06Mozilla Integrates Proprietary Pocket Plugin - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:32] <exec> 08└─I don't use those features but here's some info from the main dude [palemoon.org] Pale Moon supports full accessibility features as one can expect from a browser, like caret browsing, adaptation to high-contrast themes, etc. -- but what it does not support is specialized hardware for the severely d...
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[23:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:So will this translate to a new source of power - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:27] <exec> 08└─It doesn't necessarily NOT translate into an application. But any new discovery, if valid, has the potential. If everyone has the attitude of "Oh, it doesn't necessarily translate into an application" every time there's a scientific discovery, we'd still be in the dark ages.
[23:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:So will this translate to a new source of power - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:28] <exec> 08└─" If everyone has the attitude of "Oh, it doesn't necessarily translate into an application" every time there's a scientific discovery, we'd still be in the dark ages." Is that what happened to my promised flying car?
[23:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Non-Joulian... - 06New Class of Swelling Magnets Have the Potential to Energize the World - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:19:31] <exec> 08└─... then, is it Greguorian?
[23:19:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] 02Re:Elementary, dear Watson - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 918 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:41] <exec> 08└─For computer security there are three rules: 0. Never turn on the computer. 1. If you turn on the computer, never connect it to another computer. 2. If you turn on the computer and connect it to a network, never let any non-sysadmin operate its clients. When it comes to robots.txt there are three ru...
[23:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 1288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:46] <exec> 08└─> Which would take a few hours to work around by the scammers. Yes, yes, yes. All so obvious that I decided not to mention it in the first place. Security is about cost trade-offs, not absolutism, the goal is to make your website less attractive than other websites - make it nondescript so it doesn'...
[23:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:48] <exec> 08└─> Shouldn't stuff "the admin wishes to hide" be hidden from all but those proving they have the proper security credentials? You can't both openly serve information to the public and simultaneously not serve it to the public. If you want to lock it down to a select group and only a select group, the...
[23:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Random version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:52] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't you risk your site being considered a link farm by Google's algorithm?
[23:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Random version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:53] <exec> 08└─Ban any crawler from accessing those pages if it comes from a google IP ?
[23:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:55] <exec> 08└─Actually the original reason why it was invented was to reduce server load (prevent an accidental DoS attack) when the server is visited by a spider.
[23:19:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Shorter version - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:57] <exec> 08└─Well you could list in robots.txt a honeypot or a directory that triggers blacklisting. The second one can be turned into a way for third parties to put users into your blacklist though.
[23:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:robots.txt tar pit? - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:58] <exec> 08└─The story indicates that some security people actually do that, and bog down those spiders that ignore robots.txt. None of the details about how to do that were provided. Sometimes the files/directories under robots.txt are used only by the web server (fetched and embedded in real time). Other times...
[23:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:robots.txt tar pit? - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:20:00] <exec> 08└─Not going to work. Most bots parallelize tasks and have a fairly short timeout period per request. The ultra tryhard attackers will even use a distributed botnet to stop you from IP blocking them with trap pages.
[23:20:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Make a booby trap - 06Hackers Love Robots.txt - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:20:01] <exec> 08└─I store all the good stuff in my home directory, so I have to add ../../../home/dyingtolive onto my url when I want to get to it. Haven't seen anyone think of that yet. Surprising amount of Apache changes you have to enable to get such a si
[23:20:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Predictable Reactionary Response - 06Coal-Fired Plants are Especially Vulnerable to Climate Change - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:20:36] <exec> 08└─Yep, totally safe to place nuclear reactors along the fault...
[23:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Algorithms tell us how to vote? - 06People Blame Algorithms for the Cruelty of Bureaucracy - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:00] <exec> 08└─May I, please, subscribe to your newsletter?
[23:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:06] <exec> 08└─Yup. This will be seen on Intel's Xeon Phi Knights Landing, with 8-16 GB of "on-package memory": http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] http://www.anandtech.com [anandtech.com] ⚔
[23:23:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02Re:Which way's forward? - 06AMD Shares More Details on High Bandwidth Memory - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:10] <exec> 08└─Isn't pcie thing just because it's a better bus for random access memory than SATA? Has nothing to do with a thermal wall.
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