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[00:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Price Lookup Codes - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:58] <exec> 08└─Snopes? You want us to read and trust Snopes?! LOL! LOL! LOOOOOOOOOOL!
[00:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:4, Interesting) 02"a leading global company" - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:05:59] <exec> 08└─How many thousands (hundreds of thousands? millions?) have asked for a label indicating whither products contain GMOs? Now just one (1) international corporation asks for a label that indicates "no GMOs" in a product and the USDA jumps. Does this mean that the government (or at least the USDA) cares...
[00:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:"a leading global company" - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:01] <exec> 08└─Vilsack said the USDA certification is being created through the department's Agriculture Marketing Service, which works with interested companies to certify the accuracy of the claims they are making on food packages, such as "humanely raised" or "no antibiotics ever."
[00:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score:2) 02Why not just label everything GMO if it is? - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 876 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:06:02] <exec> 08└─And before anyone claims "it's too much difficult!"... other nations [foodstandards.gov.au] seem to be able to do it easily enough... GM foods, ingredients, additives, or processing aids that contain novel DNA or protein must be labelled with the words ‘genetically modified’. Novel DNA or prote...
[00:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can play this game too.... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:17] <exec> 08└─I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!
[00:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02unmerited and authoritarian - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:06:20] <exec> 08└─Lot of CEOs are sociopaths. This is just more proof of that. Merit has too little to do with who gets to be the CEO. But even if we can set up a system that gives us good, honest CEOs, the hierarchical organization can still be a problem. CEOs, no matter how good, would be better with less authority...
[00:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:unmerited and authoritarian - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:21] <exec> 08└─Maybe don't even have a CEO position, run companies some other way.
[00:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I understand gewg_'s disgust with this. - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:41] <exec> 08└─Are you asking that for real? The Democratic Party is extremely far to the right, by global standards. Maybe they're "leftists" in the US, but that's only because the Republican Party is so bloody far to the right.
[00:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overzealous prosecution - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:30] <exec> 08└─Yes, prosecutors generally do try to prosecute those who likely engaged in criminal behavior. That's exactly what society has tasked them with doing.
[00:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Lovely Analog Technology - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:33] <exec> 08└─This kind of thing makes me want to fly on a Boeing 707. When that plane was designed, most computers were room-filling and used vacuum tubes, although the Air Force had a small tube computer which was used on the B-58's navigation computer. (It was that computer which inspired the creation of the C...
[00:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:43] <exec> 08└─The GP never claimed that ACs didn't post bad comments. The GP also never claimed that registered users don't post good comments. The GP did say that "the best comments ... come from ACs". I hope you're able to comprehend what was said, and what wasn't said, and how they differ.
[00:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:51] <exec> 08└─They were all modded incorrectly. Whoever moderated them improperly like that should not be allowed to moderate again.
[00:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:28] <exec> 08└─Is proof by repeated assertion the only argument you can make?
[00:11:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 1407 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:11:41] <exec> 08└─First, regulations on banks were rolled back, creating a largely unregulated industry. Second, those regulators tasked with enforcing the remaining regulations simply failed to do so. Third, the banks were run by inept bunglers. Fourth, mergers and buyouts have been approved again, and again, and ag...
[00:12:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:29] <exec> 08└─We know over 2000 years that Democracy has problems. Whether you agree with all Plato's arguments or not, I'd say history shows that there is a real danger that democracy selects for people that win elections, which is not the same as people who govern well.
[00:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:01] <exec> 08└─You realise we're talking about university, right? Big class sizes, but (mostly) engaged students, no streaming (depending on uni), big focus on practical core topics in your domain and certainly not day care. I agree with your points in regards to grade school, but university is a different beast,...
[00:17:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Re:Kick Out The Jams! - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:40] <exec> 08└─Saw Guitars, Saw Drums. ... just zero variety in choice of instruments.
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[01:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Did he become an Honorary Cypherpunk? - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:51] <exec> 08└─By being victimized in this way, did this poor fellow end up becoming an Honorary Cypherpunk?
[01:06:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03captain normal [2205] 02"a leading global company" - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 380 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:00] <exec> 08└─How many thousands (hundreds of thousands? millions?) have asked for a label indicating whither products contain GMOs? Now just one (1) international corporation asks for a label that indicates "no GMOs" in a product and the USDA jumps. Does this mean that the government (or at least the USDA) cares...
[01:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where's this world going... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:12] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't call yet another boring, bland Wolfenstein 3D-clone a "game".
[01:06:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Hamm-fisted approach... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 206 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:13] <exec> 08└─My question is: if you take the department out of the university so you can hire the yes-men you want, are you also going to only hire geologists who only find giant oil pockets exactly where you want them?
[01:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Trans-Pacific Partnership - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:35] <exec> 08└─Even though it wouldn't hurt to spell it out once, the summary does mention the "talks on a Pacific Rim free trade agreement" in the first quoted paragraph, so it should be clear enough.
[01:06:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Does this mean more tentacle pr0n? - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:54] <exec> 08└─Another good one is "look the other way while we have some "fun" with Taiwan, or never get another rice shipment again" type stuff. Or even just sneakier backroom stuff "Well, we could ship you more food, but you'd have to cancel that US military base lease to have space to store it, hint hint"
[01:06:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Does this mean more tentacle pr0n? - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:55] <exec> 08└─If the domestic farm sector will be destroyed, does this mean that former farmers will follow their dreams to become artists instead, and pr0n output will surge?
[01:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Does this mean more tentacle pr0n? - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:57] <exec> 08└─Doujinshi ("imposter" comics using well-known characters) is a huge market in Japan and often a starting point for many well-known manga artists. Its where lots of artists get their first break and fame. Draconian IP laws in Japan would destroy the entire manga, and thus anime and probably eroge, ec...
[01:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Overzealous prosecution - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:37] <exec> 08└─Why the fuck does Aaron Swartz always get brought into conversations that have absolutely nothing to do with him and what he did to himself?
[01:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Quite Disturbing - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:52] <exec> 08└─why are you assuming that police have to break the law to enforce it? there are certain actions that the police take which would be a crime when performed by people without the state's authority - arresting a person without the state's authority, for example, is called "kidnapping" and "criminal con...
[01:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Quite Disturbing - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:54] <exec> 08└─fuck no, the police do not have to break the law to do their jobs. in the US, police can have what's called "qualified immunity" [wikipedia.org] which protects "government officials ... from liability for civil damages insofar as their conduct does not violate clearly established statutory or consti...
[01:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Sue? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:03] <exec> 08└─Although I do not like it, the police and others do sometimes need this power in order to carry out their duties.
[01:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:01] <exec> 08└─Anyone who disagreed was modded down.
[01:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:I remember when the net in the '90s... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 680 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:22] <exec> 08└─KDE has a gopher KIOslave (package kio-gopher) that makes gopher:// [gopher] addresses work in konqueror and rekonq, for another option that doesn't rely on a browser addon. Also, apparently Elinks has native gopher support too, but it's disabled by default for some reason. Unless you compile it you...
[01:09:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 271 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:32] <exec> 08└─> We need to hoist the NSA, CIA, DEA, and the entirety of government and corporations that are violating our rights, spying on us, and abusing their access to information on their own petard. Personally I'm not fussy whose petard you use, so long as it's good and hoisty.
[01:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:47] <exec> 08└─That fallacy doesn't apply when there is in fact a problem, like there is in this case. Repeatedly insisting that Obama is a Muslim is an example of that fallacy in action, because Obama is not a Muslim. Repeatedly pointing out that there is a severe mismoderation problem here at SoylentNews is not...
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[02:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Did he become an Honorary Cypherpunk? - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:53] <exec> 08└─Die Die die DIE DIE DIEK DIEJRIEFJSLDFLKDEIE
[02:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02The wuss! - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:54] <exec> 08└─He should have held out for more money. Such terrible and embarrassing police misconduct is worth at least $100k... and an official apology from the police chief on down. An admission of guilt might also help. That helps get people fired for such acts, people who need to be fired.
[02:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:The wuss! - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:56] <exec> 08└─Agreed. It seems to always be a given that an office holder is untouchable. He can't lose his job, be fined, or face charges. The exceptions are so rare as to become headline news. I'm surprised that he wasn't forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement - in effect, "Here's twenty grand, now fade away...
[02:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:1) 02Who benefits - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:06:08] <exec> 08└─Make growers of traditional (heritage) crops pay for verification and new special labeling? While GMO growers label as they please? This: Adds a new expense, verification, to growing from traditional seedsAdds a 2nd expense, labelling, to traditional growersHelps to price unmodified food out of budg...
[02:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Does this mean more tentacle pr0n? - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:01] <exec> 08└─Japan has long been described as being a "screwdriver's turn away [wikipedia.org]" from joining the nuclear club. They could build workable nuclear weapons very quickly, so much so that some analysts consider them a de facto nuclear state. Some estimates say that with their resources they could deve...
[02:08:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 215 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:08:44] <exec> 08└─The Internet is fine. It's the World Wide Web that's broken. And we can thank Google and Mozilla for breaking the World Wide Web, thanks to the shitty things they've done to their now-shitty World Wide Web browsers.
[02:09:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03rts008 [3001] 02Stuck in a loop seems to be th default setting... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 153 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:11] <exec> 08└─I think you have summed humanity up rather well. Lather, rinse, repeat...ad nauseum, and you have the complete history of humans and their civilizations.
[02:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02right back at ya - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:56] <exec> 08└─Now we have to put up with this shitty submission taking up space on the front page, and we'll have to wait 2.5 hours until some other story comes along.
[02:10:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Great reason not to have an account here. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 84 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:22] <exec> 08└─Actually I just hacked your Anonymous Coward account, and now I can post as you! ;-)
[02:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:09] <exec> 08└─Oh look, a fine example of an "insightful AC comment" that got "wrongfully" downmoadded that the original poster is complaining about. :) Protip: being an asshole is a great way to get a flamebait mod -- or "troll" because some people don't grok the difference -- regardless of how insightful or corr...
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[02:11:10] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that should be "downmodded" in the first sentence. I know. I missed it in preview.
[02:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 1337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:15] <exec> 08└─First one: probably should have been marked "offtopic" instead, but downmodding made sense. Flamebait still makes sense, though, because it reads as a deliberately inflammatory comment. Why else would it have "Shrillary" in there? That's no different than gewg's obsession with derogatory names to us...
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[03:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02.foo has potential - 06Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:05:51] <exec> 08└─It could be a universal root domain with Google, or a consortium including Google but bypassing ICANN, as the registrar.
[03:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's this world going... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:25] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't call yet another boring, bland Wolfenstein 3D-clone a "game".
[03:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TPP - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:50] <exec> 08└─Does it involve giant robots?
[03:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:15] <exec> 08└─They're here to build up a reputation. They're here for the sake of vanity.
[03:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Prussian Education - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:55] <exec> 08└─Learning Greek may not be all that useful, but it does teach a different character set, which may make learning non-European languages easier than just learning another Latin character set language.
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[04:05:58] <exec> 08└─Agreed. It seems to always be a given that an office holder is untouchable. He can't lose his job, be fined, or face charges. The exceptions are so rare as to become headline news. I'm surprised that he wasn't forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement - in effect, "Here's twenty grand, now fade away...
[04:06:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02My gripe about GMO foods... - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:06:13] <exec> 08└─... there are many who claim that anti-GMO activists are crackpots, that there is no difference in nutritional value for GMO foods, there's nothing poisonous in them etc. My concern is that most GMO sees are engineered to make them resistant to pesticides. That enables "Roundup Ready" seeds, for exa...
[04:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03pnkwarhall [4558] (Score:2) 02Re:Here's what I'm going to say to the President - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:19] <exec> 08└─Also, your method for getting things into your hosts file seems a little over-complicated.
[04:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03AudioGuy [24] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 2541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:58] <exec> 08└─"At best, you have a democratically elected oligarchy. The oligarchy part is indisputable. The "democratically-elected" is the part that needs scrutiny." And the real problem is that BOTH are degenerate forms of government! Switching from one to the other does not help matters. I offer the following...
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[05:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02supply and demand - 06Some Valuations of 'Unicorn' Tech Startups May Be Overblown - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:05:47] <exec> 08└─Keep paying them and they will keep birthing unicorns.
[05:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:supply and demand - 06Some Valuations of 'Unicorn' Tech Startups May Be Overblown - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:48] <exec> 08└─I herd when you fuck a unicorn the horn falls off.
[05:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Money (That's What I Want) - 06Some Valuations of 'Unicorn' Tech Startups May Be Overblown - 775 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:05:49] <exec> 08└─The best things in life are free But you can give them to the birds and bees I want money (That's what I want) That's what I want (That's what I want) That's what I want (That's what I want) That's what I want (That's what I want) You love gives me such a thrill But your love won't pay my bills I wa...
[05:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02You know you want .rs instead - 06Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:05:58] <exec> 08└─NIGGE.RS [nigge.rs]
[05:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The wuss! - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:09] <exec> 08└─"post something positive" on his Baton Bob Facebook page. According to the lawsuit, APD officers told the performer that doing so was the only way he would be released from custody
[05:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03LaminatorX [14] (Score:2) 02Good for Bob! - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:06:10] <exec> 08└─St. Louis still misses you, Baton Bob. Stay weird.
[05:06:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03rts008 [3001] 02I can play this game too.... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 1787 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:40] <exec> 08└─You will have to stay confused. This is not about whether you are angry or not, and if you can't figure out if you are angry or not, why should we decide for you, or even care? Take a breath now. I would hate to see you suffocate just because someone did not tell you recently to breathe. ;-) It is a...
[05:07:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:I understand gewg_'s disgust with this. - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 214 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:08] <exec> 08└─Are you asking that for real? The Democratic Party is extremely far to the right, by global standards. Maybe they're "leftists" in the US, but that's only because the Republican Party is so bloody far to the right.
[05:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't pass the sniff test - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:50] <exec> 08└─I still don't believe this can be accomplished from the passenger seat of an aircraft with nothing but a compute. And if it can, we need to de-certify all those aircraft systems.
[05:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:27] <exec> 08└─Maybe I just don't browse low enough often enough or in the past enough, but I don't see what engblom is going on about. When asked for examples, I saw one person [soylentnews.org] out of three give legit examples. (I have to admire the effort [soylentnews.org] of this guy, though. I only looked at...
[05:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:33] <exec> 08└─There's a difference between being an asshole and being sarcastic towards an asshole. Someone else seems to have already given you a point for that. I'm refraining from giving out points to you because I want to see the abuse they are talking about on this sight, and not a flamewar over this topic....
[05:11:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:34] <exec> 08└─There's a difference between being an asshole and being sarcastic towards an asshole. Someone else seems to have already given you a point for that.
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[06:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:supply and demand - 06Some Valuations of 'Unicorn' Tech Startups May Be Overblown - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:05:52] <exec> 08└─But you can no more herd unicorns than you can herd cats! For all their resemblance to horses, unicorns are solitary creatures. I doubt you could find one, let alone capture one, and it is beyond the realm of possible events that a unicorn would submit to so foul an AC as you! Alright, who let Vol...
[06:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02the liquidity preferences aren't the only problem - 06Some Valuations of 'Unicorn' Tech Startups May Be Overblown - 719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:05:54] <exec> 08└─there is also the problem that the investors can appoint board directors. Sometimes they want to have a say in the day-to-day operation of the company. That doesn't have to be a bad thing but it commonly is; I observed that to be the case during the dot-com boom, when I worked for two different comp...
[06:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Amazon should not be permitted to own .book - 06Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:06:04] <exec> 08└─that is a collosal conflict of interest. Will Powell's City of Books in Portland be forced to pay their direct competitor to register .book?
[06:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:The wuss! - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:16] <exec> 08└─The money should have come out of the cop's pockets, not out of taxpayer funds.
[06:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The "baton" part bothers me most - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:06:18] <exec> 08└─Why is this guy's name "Baton Bob", and why was he faking getting gay married? It makes no sense, unless the police. . .. . OMG! End of thought train. On the other hand, if you ever read a facebook post by moi, praising the professionalism of the APD, please call the ACLU, the NAACP, the NSA and the...
[06:06:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Always get a giggle - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:06:33] <exec> 08└─"corn ... not genetically engineered" Is man made selective breading not genetic engineering?
[06:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Does this mean more tentacle pr0n? - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:29] <exec> 08└─That must be one very tight screw. Have they tried WD40?
[06:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Here's what I'm going to say to the President - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:40] <exec> 08└─I did respond, with a particular amount of cynicism to his assumption he could gain any response from the president whatsoever, I didn't think you sounded that annoyed, and I figured tee was less portable (and less common) than other means, as (last time I used it) it's not present in at least Solar...
[06:08:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03No Respect [991] 02Overzealous prosecution - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 372 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:08:09] <exec> 08└─The prosecutor needs his resume padded more than he desires justice. This isn't new. If this were truly possible then the real target of the investigation should be the airplane manufacturers for allowing it to happen. If a guy can control the plane by having access to its entertainment system, then...
[06:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Flight Attendent Lets Man Die Rather Than Use Phon - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:07] <exec> 08└─Since 9/11 flight attendents have become pseudo-police, if you disobey them you can end up in jail. But they haven't had police training or even anything specific to their pseudo air-marshal status. So (a) it is good they got slapped down over this hysterical nonsense. (b) Too bad it didn't come soo...
[06:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:How can we know that the DB wasn't breached? - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:50] <exec> 08└─There's no indication that anything managed to get in over SSH, and as I said before, the account was a virtual dovecot account. Even if berylliun was breached (which again we have no reason to believe), the only information on that box is the wiki. There are no kerberos keytabs on that box beside t...
[06:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Just not good enough. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:11:04] <exec> 08└─Relatively few FOSS projects seem to use the database layer for business logic. The odds if/when I get to it, I can remove 30k LOC or so from the DB layer into smaller stored procedures ....
[06:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Fail2Fail - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:11:10] <exec> 08└─Honestly, I've never understood the point of doing this; nmap will find it regardless. There's security through obscurity, but this seems like it would barely make any difference.
[06:12:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 1257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:35] <exec> 08└─That sort of capitalism made sense back when acquiring capital could be little harder than walking a few miles over the horizon and simply claiming a some dozen acres of productive land. Capital, land and natural resources, were just there for anyone to claim and make use of. Now, everything and eve...
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[07:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Interesting) 02"We want someone who can hit the ground running" - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:05:48] <exec> 08└─were we to receive on-the-job traning, rather than expected to use our own time and money staying up to date on new tech, we might have some loyalty to the employer. I've been programming on Apple platforms since 1986, I worked at apple twice, once as a contract programmer, the other as a white badg...
[07:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:49] <exec> 08└─Well let's see, on the one hand, you're as self-aggrandizing as any young hipster brogrammer, but on the other hand, you're old.
[07:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Amazon should not be permitted to own .book - 06Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:11] <exec> 08└─A similar conflict of interest exists for Google with .search, .map and .app.
[07:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Google has sold the .car? - 06Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:06:12] <exec> 08└─Have I ever been sleeping under a rock. Didn't know these big companies own the ENTIRE domain level of these words. And everyone is ok with that? Cause it sure seems like a colossol conflict of interest, one in which, if Google had any sense of ethics, should have walked away from from the very begi...
[07:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Settlements are not judgements. - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:06:27] <exec> 08└─They don't set precedent. Better to sue for a dollar and set precedent, then to settle for twenty grand.
[07:06:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Always get a giggle - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:43] <exec> 08└─selective breading would be feeding your animals different types of "bread". selective breEding is more like husbandry where as genetic engineering is more like aliens tinkering with your program
[07:07:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:So how far did he get? - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:02] <exec> 08└─But something DID happen. Hamm showed us exactly how crooked he is. It is fortunate that Grillot wasn't equally crooked.
[07:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't pass the sniff test - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:13] <exec> 08└─I know this seems counter intuitive but its one of the first things you will learn in pilot school.
[07:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:20] <exec> 08└─This article is clearly about high school
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[08:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:01] <exec> 08└─were we to receive on-the-job traning, rather than expected to use our own time and money staying up to date on new tech, we might have some loyalty to the employer.
[08:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:04] <exec> 08└─Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
[08:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Seems unlikely - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:05] <exec> 08└─I doubt some SJW site is going to come up with something believable and "new" that has somehow escaped the attention of entire generations of bean counters and MBAs. Sure, lots of them are pretenders. But the most know a few things about cost accounting and performance measurement that your average...
[08:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gimme Basic Income - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:07] <exec> 08└─Tax the rich. Give to me! I deserve a basic income. For great social justice.
[08:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bootsy [3440] (Score:2) 02My favourite management quote - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:09] <exec> 08└─People don't leave jobs, they leave people. If someone quits it is because of the people around them and how they have been treated by them.
[08:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Amazon should not be permitted to own .book - 06Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:30] <exec> 08└─> that is a collosal conflict of interest. You do not understand what that phrase means.
[08:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Always get a giggle - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:03] <exec> 08└─Typo aside, what's the difference? Aside from a generation or two shortcut? We are the "aliens" in both examples. "Fuck this way" or "splice this way", the end result is the same.
[08:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Always get a giggle - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:04] <exec> 08└─It is not.
[08:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Here's what I'm going to say to the President - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:12] <exec> 08└─So par for the course on Windows?
[08:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Here's what I'm going to say to the President - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:16] <exec> 08└─I'm just applying my usual rule of thumb: If they don't want me to see it, it can only be that they believe I won't like it. That might not be ALWAYS true, but it's the way to bet.
[08:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:I remember when the net in the '90s... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:41] <exec> 08└─Thanks for that. w3m's toast. The overlaps between the other three clients were much greater, I'll focus my server on supporting those in priority order lynx (so the xterm crowd is covered), firefox (so the GUI crowd is covered), gopher (hell, a gopher server not supporting "gopher" just seems wrong...
[08:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:+1 Disclosure - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:29] <exec> 08└─I think we may have a new meme on our hands...
[08:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Off topic: current pending queue - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:54] <exec> 08└─And pull all these tiresome and redundant complaints to the "admins" to censor stuff! Are these ACs so clueless as to not realize that Soylent News is people, and that means there are no "admins"? So all this "unfair" "incorrect', and my favorite, "abusive" moderation needs to continue unabated! But...
[08:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:12] <exec> 08└─Wow, I just accused Tork of being _the_ whiner (in not so many words) like, yesterday. And now here he is, a full blown reasonable Soylentil! I may have misjudged you, Tork. I concur with everything you said.
[08:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:17] <exec> 08└─I rather not go charging into this without getting a full set of opinions across the board, and moderation is off topic for this post.
[08:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:27] <exec> 08└─It's clear what needs to be done. Moderators need to be held accountable for their abuses. Moderators who mod down good posts, or even just a single post, should never mod again.
[08:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 1344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:16] <exec> 08└─I think the most important part of that quote is the "as the number increases it becomes more difficult" part. I've moved from a 60m-population country to a 5m-population country, and thence to a 1m-population country. Almost always, when I'm wandering around town, or when I visit other towns, I bum...
[08:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:55] <exec> 08└─Yes, but you'll recall from my first comment "I found that I had the best success at uni when... " and from your own reply "In lectures at university...". TFS notwithstanding, I was given to think we were discussing these issues in the context of university education in this sub-thread.
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[09:05:50] <exec> 08└─who would have guessed?!
[09:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:3, Interesting) 02In Related News: - 06Black Silicon Solar Cell Efficiency at 22.1% - 1289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:05:51] <exec> 08└─Last year in October, we talked about University of California’s specially contrived composite nanomaterial that could convert a whopping 90 percent of sunlight to usable heat energy (that is further used for generating electricity via steam-based turbines). Unfortunately, the said technology has...
[09:07:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Simple rules to follow... - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 189 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:49] <exec> 08└─I learnt a while back to ask two simple trust questions about any new standard/protocol/law/treaty: - What problem is [...] trying to solve? - Why is [...] being negotiated in secret?
[09:08:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there a reason to have these systems connect - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 1152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:27] <exec> 08└─Both of the examples are where *data* goes from the trusted domain into the untrusted domain. In the audio case, there's also control (1 bit - "I have priority audio data available") going from the *trusted* domain to the untrusted domain. At no point does data need to pass from the *untrusted* doma...
[09:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:24] <exec> 08└─The asshats worked tirelessly to create illusions that appeared to match what the pioneers had created, to draw more of the dupes to their cause. Because the illusions could be created and experienced for much cheaper than the real thing, the illusions became more popular than the original work. The...
[09:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:14] <exec> 08└─The fact that one person was victimized is more than enough for this to become a big deal around here.
[09:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:23] <exec> 08└─Registered users aren't here to engage in truly thought-provoking discussion. They're here to build up a reputation. They're here for the sake of vanity. That's why they create an account in the first place: they care more about appearances than about the discussion.
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[10:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Weapon use? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:05:55] <exec> 08└─What would be the range of such a system? Could it in principle also be used as anti-satellite weapon (either pushing the satellite out of their correct orbit, or vaporizing important parts of their instrumentation; possibly both)?
[10:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In Related News: - 06Black Silicon Solar Cell Efficiency at 22.1% - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:04] <exec> 08└─I wonder if combining that nanomaterial with a thermoelectric device (replacing the steam-based power conversion) would still beat photovoltaic cells. Unlike a steam turbine, such a device would likely be acceptable for use at personal level (i.e. putting such a system on the roof of a house). The w...
[10:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:In Related News: - 06Black Silicon Solar Cell Efficiency at 22.1% - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:06] <exec> 08└─The solar cell efficiency record is 46% [cleantechnica.com] using a four-junction cell where each the cell’s four sub-cells converts precisely one quarter of the incoming photons into electricity, thanks to precise tuning of the composition and thicknesses of each layer inside the cell structure....
[10:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:16] <exec> 08└─Perhaps your problem is that you expected them to work for "green as grass" pay after you trained them? That was close to happening at a company I used to work for. Everybody was promised training that would allow them to work as SAP consultants, and they would get a 3% raise when the training was c...
[10:06:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:17] <exec> 08└─To be fair, just because you worked at apple and have programmed on Apple platforms does not at all show that you can write gui applications at all, let alone ones that "fit"* with OS X. *lets face it, programming is programming. What they really wanted was someone that could make lightweight, styli...
[10:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Re:My favourite management quote - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:22] <exec> 08└─Which leads me to comment that there is a cost to keeping some people. Possibly greater than the cost of dismissing them.
[10:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:The "baton" part bothers me most - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:01] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of Microsoft Bob [wikipedia.org] which later became Clippy [wikipedia.org] before they got some sanity back in 2008.
[10:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not just label everything GMO if it is? - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:15] <exec> 08└─GM labelling is not about safety. It is about helping consumers make an informed choice about the food they buy.
[10:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02A case of enumeration of bad - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:07:21] <exec> 08└─This sounds so "enumeration of bad" to use a computer security term. Perhaps food should have a label "Not genetically wrecked, not tortured, doesn't contain any antibiotic resistant stuff, not picked using TBC infected slaves etc". It's an insane result from a government that is run by bribes and v...
[10:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The courts don't determine what is right or wro - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:02] <exec> 08└─Wait, shouldn't it be the laws which determine what is legal?
[10:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:37] <exec> 08└─You seem blissfully unaware of the original mp3.com. Artists loved it, consumers loved it. The MAFIAA had nothing to do with it, so killed got it nuked from orbit.
[10:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:51] <exec> 08└─For example, lamborghini has a reputation for being maintenance nightmares, while toyota corollas are rock solid. When you are young tweaking code and working around bugs is fun. I'm willing to bet most soybeans are well past that point and just want shit to work without a lot of fucking around.
[10:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:12:50] <exec> 08└─Whoever moderated them improperly like that should not be allowed to moderate again.
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[11:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Avoid the local box thinking - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:36] <exec> 08└─Localizing the news flow may create a mental box where you awareness horizons ends with your national or regional borders. Exposure to other events and ideas from foreign places challenge your thinking. So something may be lost.
[11:06:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Software/localization is not the mission - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:37] <exec> 08└─To be clear: If there are volunteers who want to do work on localization, that is of course entirely up to them. That being said, I don't see any of this to be part of the SN mission. Any software development that is done as part of SN is incidental - it is a means to and end, the end being a site w...
[11:06:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02not really worth it - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:39] <exec> 08└─this work would translate the UI, and the site interface itself, and not the articles
[11:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:not really worth it - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:40] <exec> 08└─It's not perl. The translations file looks like this: #. (origin) #: themes/default/templates/main;404;default:22 #, perl-maketext-format msgid "The requested URL (%1) was not found." msgstr "" Basically fill in the blank. In some places, because the layout of the page may have to change, there are...
[11:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not really worth it - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:42] <exec> 08└─Just refactor the code so a different language template can be sub'ed if/when desired. Seems like you already done that. And build a MexPanish template for testing. For now, though, like the AC noted, don't see a point displaying vato menu with gringo articles.
[11:06:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Choice - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:44] <exec> 08└─Localizations are ok, IF you can choose a different language easily (WITHOUT needing an account). Personally I just want English (which is not my mothertongue).
[11:06:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Choice - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:45] <exec> 08└─The default would be whatever your browser sends. Shouldn't be hard to simply add a dropdown box that sets a cookie to overwrite that.
[11:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Why? - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:47] <exec> 08└─What would be the point? If it is about allowing users to set a language in their preferences, that's useless - the content is still in English, so it will look weird, and anyone who can't read English articles and comments has no reason to be here in the first place. If it's about putting up separa...
[11:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02leave the site in English - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:48] <exec> 08└─In my opinion, this should remain an English-language site, with an English interface. this site is content, not interface. Dare I say it, if you can't read the English interface, then you won't understand the nuance in the commentary. It's a gateway, a shibboleth [wikipedia.org]. Simply understand...
[11:06:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Nope - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:50] <exec> 08└─Given that the contents of SN will be in English, I see no reason to translate anything. I find having a mix of languages on the screen to be annoying. Localized versions? Not for SoylentNews, no - I think many of us come here precisely because of the international aspects. On the other hand, maybe...
[11:06:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02damn you Mike Myers - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:56] <exec> 08└─Godammit. It's been nearly twenty years, but I still can't see / hear the word 'laser' without mentally adding finger quotes and Dr Evil's voice. I think I need professional help. In my defence, TFA does sound kind of bond-villainesque. Also: Magma.
[11:06:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:damn you Mike Myers - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:57] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you were thinking on Hugo Drax and his Moonraker [wikipedia.org] space station equipped with nerve gas and laser weapons.. ;-)
[11:06:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02probably redundant... - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:59] <exec> 08└─...since the russians have prolly got plans for all sorts of weapons for their post-ISS station, including lasers, missiles, nukes, gatling guns, rail guns, flamethrowers, etc.
[11:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02doesn't matter - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 1435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:26] <exec> 08└─The total cost of turnover simply doesn't matter. Managers think in the short term. They set the amount they want their bonus to be this year, and purge workers until they save the company enough money to pay that bonus. That's about all managers do any longer. They aren't trying to plan for the lon...
[11:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Strawberry - 06Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:53] <exec> 08└─Meh... something, something, blackjack, something, hookers, something.
[11:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there a reason to have these systems connect - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 1126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:02] <exec> 08└─In an ideal world there should be an air gap between the systems, with power being the only systems they share. However there needs to bein formation from the airside to the cattle side, and that's where the plausibility enters. Yes there should be firewalls and proxies between the sides, ideally se...
[11:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Quite Disturbing - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:44] <exec> 08└─Who said anything about the police using this? Well, okay, there are a few law enforcement agents sitting behind screens doing useful work in defence of the public, but they're probably looking at each other funny right now asking "When did we ask for this? Don't recall needing this..." while the mi...
[11:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Re:The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:39] <exec> 08└─At least the name lives on in another form. [wikipedia.org]
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[12:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02The organization better prove their case - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:06] <exec> 08└─If the organization in question physically can't disprove the leak. Then there's no reason to believe what is being said. Past behavior shows lies is a regular tool to fend people of.
[12:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03lizardloop [4716] (Score:1) 02the same thing we do every night Pinky - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:07] <exec> 08└─I guarantee nothing of consequence will happen. Ultimately there is no real power for change in an organisation like the Navy or NSA. The people there aren't elected, they are hired staff with no public accountability. IN THEORY our politicians should be acting upon this and insisting that there is...
[12:06:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ticho [89] 02Why? - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 482 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:22] <exec> 08└─What would be the point? If it is about allowing users to set a language in their preferences, that's useless - the content is still in English, so it will look weird, and anyone who can't read English articles and comments has no reason to be here in the first place. If it's about putting up separa...
[12:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nope - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:25] <exec> 08└─It only makes sense if the articles are translated as well...
[12:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Difficulties with localization - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 1105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:26] <exec> 08└─My native language is German. Personally, I prefer English as a UI language for many reasons (note that not everything might apply to SoylentNews): Translations are almost always bad, regardless of the direction. A lot of times nuances get lost, jokes in general are *very* hard to translate, irony q...
[12:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Not a priority - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:28] <exec> 08└─I do not think it is priority. I think any new code should be written with the idea of allowing localisation of the interface in mind, but I don't see the merit in a large exercise, right now, to enable an international interface. Of course, I have only one voice, and there may be a significant numb...
[12:06:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02other option - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:30] <exec> 08└─Why don't you follow the time-honoured British tradition and simply speak loudly and slowly for the foreigners. (bold and fontsize +2)?
[12:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:damn you Mike Myers - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:40] <exec> 08└─Or even http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[12:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03engblom [556] (Score:2) 02State of Aggregation - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:42] <exec> 08└─Each time the laser solution has been brought up I wonder to what degree the state of aggregation is considered. If you vaporize something, it well eventually become solid again. How do you clean up those?
[12:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:In Related News: - 06Black Silicon Solar Cell Efficiency at 22.1% - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:52] <exec> 08└─> solar cell efficiency record is 46% "... Fraunhofer Institute for Solar Energy Systems ..." Expect patents...
[12:06:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:In Related News: - 06Black Silicon Solar Cell Efficiency at 22.1% - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:53] <exec> 08└─Thus cost ;) If the 22.1% panels cost less than half the cost of the Fraunhofer 46% panels then for pure joule/US$ Fraunhofer will loose. Their panels will only make sense where space is at a premium.
[12:07:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bootsy [3440] 02My favourite management quote - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 140 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:09] <exec> 08└─People don't leave jobs, they leave people. If someone quits it is because of the people around them and how they have been treated by them.
[12:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:doesn't matter - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:12] <exec> 08└─How many IT workers in America will pay for the new Disney Star Wars movie?
[12:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Google has sold the .car? - 06Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:37] <exec> 08└─I hate to defend google, but it was blackmailed into it as much as any other party was. ICANN forced everyone to play - nobody could afford not to, because everyone else was playing. What google should have done is not just to have walked away but to have formed an alliance, with as many of the big...
[12:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Does this mean more tentacle pr0n? - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:13] <exec> 08└─They're trying to use a slot american screwdriver or maybe a Canadian Robertson in a philips head metric, it's going to be difficult. Just use a hammer, what could possibly go wrong?
[12:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Sue? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:34] <exec> 08└─So if they have a warrant then they need the power - which is what I said. Currently, the law does not even allow those with a warrant to 'hack' into a computer.
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[13:05:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 4036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:05:43] <exec> 08└─It WAS interesting, and very long, but I was more or less unimpressed. Yeah its dangerous, no shite, thats why you get endless extra pay and bonuses, almost like wartime pay because (drumroll) during peacetime its near as dangerous and stressful as service on a surface ship in wartime. Its kind of l...
[13:05:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:4, Informative) 02Now in custody - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:05:44] <exec> 08└─Apparently, he was on the run for a while, but gave himself up to the Navy [independent.co.uk]. A Ministry of Defence (MoD) spokesman said today: “We can confirm that Able Seaman McNeilly was apprehended last night and is now in the custody of the Royal Navy Police ...
[13:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Choice - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:05:59] <exec> 08└─What if I use Tor, which sends the same browser strings for everyone? And what if cookies are not allowed either? This will just lead to more people being exposed unnecessarily to outsiders and it might be more possible to link posters to their posts than it already is. Some people adopt styles of o...
[13:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Choice - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:00] <exec> 08└─Your native language is German?
[13:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Choice - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:02] <exec> 08└─No, you have 9 more guesses.
[13:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02 - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:10] <exec> 08└─Can you pipe those pot files?
[13:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Yes... in Latin - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:12] <exec> 08└─Because Latin used to be lingua-franca. For the same reason, if you wait a while, it may be beneficial to consider mandarin for the future; but until then, what's the point?
[13:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:State of Aggregation - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:24] <exec> 08└─Read the summary more carefully: The evaporation doesn't destroy the debris, but it gives it thrust towards the atmosphere. Entry into the atmosphere will destroy it then.
[13:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03engblom [556] (Score:2) 02Re:State of Aggregation - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:25] <exec> 08└─I fully know the whole piece of junk does not evaporate, and no I did not misread the summary. The piece of junk gets trust from the vaporizing a small part of the piece. That vapor might stay in space for quite long time. I can imagine those vapors, once solid again will be highly abrasive for high...
[13:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:State of Aggregation - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:26] <exec> 08└─If the vaporized bits are small enough, they might not be of any harm. A single atom smashing into a plate of steel/aluminum/titanium/etc probably won't hurt it much. A gram of atoms is likely a problem though. So the question is really how well is it vaporized, and how easy would it be to detect an...
[13:06:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] 02In Related News: - 06Black Silicon Solar Cell Efficiency at 22.1% - 1289 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:35] <exec> 08└─Last year in October, we talked about University of California’s specially contrived composite nanomaterial that could convert a whopping 90 percent of sunlight to usable heat energy (that is further used for generating electricity via steam-based turbines). Unfortunately, the said technology has...
[13:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In Related News: - 06Black Silicon Solar Cell Efficiency at 22.1% - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:40] <exec> 08└─They might also make sense where space is plentiful: In space. However that may depend on the weight of those solar cells.
[13:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:doesn't matter - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:59] <exec> 08└─Disney, along with Wal-Mart, Comcast, and a few other particularly egregious outfits, have headed my "never everpatronize" list for a long time. And I'm no SJW, I just vote with my puny little wallet. Will that change the prevailing MBA-inspired race-to-the-bottom culture? Probably not, but I can sl...
[13:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:doesn't matter - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:00] <exec> 08└─I think it is getting damn near a point where such a list needs to be made public.
[13:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Strawberry - 06Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:28] <exec> 08└─So who owns the .blackjack and .hookers TLDs?
[13:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Always get a giggle - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 1065 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:03] <exec> 08└─The difference is in the available code. With selective breeding, all you can get into the crop is what already is in some crop, or is at least very close to it if it was produced by a new mutation. With genetic manipulation, you can completely change anything of the organism. For example, with gene...
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[14:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:the same thing we do every night Pinky - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 1235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:56] <exec> 08└─I can't speak for the UK, but their structure isn't DRASTICALLY different from the US. We fashioned our Navy on that of England, after all. Yeah, some things get swept under the rug. Other things are pursued lackadaisically. Yet other things are aggressively tackled, head on. The things alleged in t...
[14:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Dismissive - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:05:59] <exec> 08└─I like the way the Navy spokesman dismisses the report as having come from "a very junior sailor" as if being junior enough to actually be physically working in the room with the nukes in (or however close he gets) somehow disqualifies him from making any kind of valid observations concerning operat...
[14:06:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kaszz [4211] 02Avoid the local box thinking - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 228 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:06:07] <exec> 08└─Localizing the news flow may create a mental box where you awareness horizons ends with your national or regional borders. Exposure to other events and ideas from foreign places challenge your thinking. So something may be lost.
[14:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02MUCH more here than meets the eye - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 1102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:13] <exec> 08└─A few things come to mind. First, I sense that our community is not sufficiently large at this moment to warrant this. Down the road, though, I think this is a *great* idea. If we provide alternate 'versions' of the site in other languages, I believe any given story will suffer. It's the 'Network Ef...
[14:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:MUCH more here than meets the eye - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:15] <exec> 08└─I vaguely remember that article too. The core problem is that a lot of languages have more than one plural form for nouns, depending on the number. This includes the entire Slavic and Baltic families, Arabic, Irish, Icelandic and a couple others. More information: https://developer.mozilla.org
[14:06:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03deimtee [3272] 02other option - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 135 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:06:26] <exec> 08└─Why don't you follow the time-honoured British tradition and simply speak loudly and slowly for the foreigners. (bold and fontsize +2)?
[14:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:other option - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:28] <exec> 08└─Oh, I see! You're volunteering to go out to get some meat. Not necessary! We have meat here. WE HAVE MEAT HERE IN ZE BUILDING!
[14:06:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes... in Latin - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:30] <exec> 08└─Actually, the educated Chinese I've known far and away prefer English. For all its faults, English is head-and-shoulders easier to master and doesn't have arcane vocabulary/jargon issues where "auxiliary contact" translates into something like "great bird with no wings flying under the water with sm...
[14:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:damn you Mike Myers - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:41] <exec> 08└─At the very least, I'm reasonably certain this laser needs to have a speaker that makes it go "pew pew pew" whenever somebody is firing it.
[14:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:State of Aggregation - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:47] <exec> 08└─Well, one could start training here [atari.com]
[14:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Cannon? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:06:49] <exec> 08└─So what is the projectile? Is my flashlight a cannon? Certainly my keychain laser pointer must be. Maybe they should have gone all the way for click-bait headlines and called it a "photon torpedo."
[14:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Re:doesn't matter - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:23] <exec> 08└─Not that I disagree at all, but you'd have hardly any place left where you could shop in good conscience. Maybe pick the lesser evil, but that's about it. And then most people still won't care, so you won't change anything but inconvenience yourself. Mind you I do try to stay away from several compa...
[14:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:doesn't matter - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:24] <exec> 08└─I think you point out the essentials in some way. The management doesn't really act rationally. So rational arguments won't bite. Otoh, this indicates a possibility to exploit the management.
[14:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:supply and demand - 06Some Valuations of 'Unicorn' Tech Startups May Be Overblown - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:34] <exec> 08└─Dunno about you but I heard cats all last night, fuzzy little psychopaths. Just find some unicorns that make a noise and hearding them is easy, so avoid unicorns that have a resemblance to a hoarse.
[14:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:The wuss! - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 1238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:05] <exec> 08└─That whole immunity business needs to be reexamined. If the cop is following the law as he understands it, in conformance with his training and department directives, then maybe I can see immunity if/when something goes wrong. And, things do go wrong sometimes, even when everyone involved has the be...
[14:08:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's this world going... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:42] <exec> 08└─> I wouldn't call yet another boring, bland Wolfenstein 3D-clone a "game". Wolfenstein 3D? You mean that boring, bland Hovertank 3D clone? Please. Textured walls ruined gaming FOREVER.
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[15:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxim [2543] (Score:1) 02And space elevator - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:05:48] <exec> 08└─Don't forget space elevator!
[15:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02links and comments - 06NASA Announces the 3D Printed Habitat Challenge For Moon and Mars Bases - 2258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:05:55] <exec> 08└─The link you probably want is the rules at https://americamakes.us [americamakes.us] Somehow mysteriously the PR award is "$2.25 million" but in the rules 1st prize is only $25K. I suppose the rest of the dough goes to "overhead",...
[15:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:links and comments - 06NASA Announces the 3D Printed Habitat Challenge For Moon and Mars Bases - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:57] <exec> 08└─What is the purpose if not engineering? is it just a PR stunt?
[15:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02What's the problem that needs solving - 06NASA Announces the 3D Printed Habitat Challenge For Moon and Mars Bases - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:05:59] <exec> 08└─I thought that mass was the expensive thing to transport, not volume. Unless they'll be 3D printing using space-dust, all of the raw materials (thus mass) needs to be transported to the bases. So what's the benefit of this? The downsides seem almost limitless (restricted choice of materials, no abil...
[15:06:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 4036 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:09] <exec> 08└─It WAS interesting, and very long, but I was more or less unimpressed. Yeah its dangerous, no shite, thats why you get endless extra pay and bonuses, almost like wartime pay because (drumroll) during peacetime its near as dangerous and stressful as service on a surface ship in wartime. Its kind of l...
[15:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Dismissive - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 836 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:12] <exec> 08└─You've got something of a point - but having been in the Navy, I know that seamen, apprentices, and recruits are seldom qualified to judge much of anything. By the time a guy IS qualified to have his own opinion, he is already being considered for promotion to Petty Officer. Believe me, I got my tea...
[15:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:MUCH more here than meets the eye - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:26] <exec> 08└─Having spent several years learning and using Russian - I can vouch for this! Translations are often not simple word substitutions. Grammar can also be affected by the number - using accusative case, genitive singular or genitive plural depending on the last digit of a larger number.
[15:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:MUCH more here than meets the eye - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:27] <exec> 08└─Fortunately, gettext handles this quite gracefully, if (and that's a big if) the developer does his job properly.
[15:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:MUCH more here than meets the eye - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:29] <exec> 08└─Hah! Found it. [cpan.org] I remember reading that article a few years back. I thought I had it bookmarked, but apparently not... had to search for it. Interestingly, it seems there was a SoylentNews submission [soylentnews.org] about it a few months ago. I seem to have missed that one :)
[15:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03jbernardo [300] (Score:2) 02Re:Choice - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:35] <exec> 08└─French and you are tired of being shown sites in Dutch/Flemish?
[15:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Choice - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:37] <exec> 08└─Dutch?
[15:06:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lentilla [1770] 02leave the site in English - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 860 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:39] <exec> 08└─In my opinion, this should remain an English-language site, with an English interface. this site is content, not interface. Dare I say it, if you can't read the English interface, then you won't understand the nuance in the commentary. It's a gateway, a shibboleth [wikipedia.org]. Simply understand...
[15:06:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] 02Difficulties with localization - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 1105 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:41] <exec> 08└─My native language is German. Personally, I prefer English as a UI language for many reasons (note that not everything might apply to SoylentNews): Translations are almost always bad, regardless of the direction. A lot of times nuances get lost, jokes in general are *very* hard to translate, irony q...
[15:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes... in Latin - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:48] <exec> 08└─The language of the Franks was not Latin (in the classical sense), but it was close: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[15:06:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Near worthless opinion - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:50] <exec> 08└─SN is already translated into my locale. What's more, I'm monolingual, and somewhat ethnocentric. So - it really doesn't matter to me. I would suggest though, that opinions be weighted according to people's locations. If the international users want the work done, and especially if those users are w...
[15:06:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Not at the moment - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:52] <exec> 08└─There are much higher priorities that we should be addressing before we begin to worry about internationalization. If you have insufficient coding to keep you busy then maybe invest some time in looking at the problem but, until then, I think that we would be better served by using your talents (and...
[15:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Balderdash [693] (Score:2) 02Re:Weapon use? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:59] <exec> 08└─Ahm firin' mah lazorz!
[15:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:State of Aggregation - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:10] <exec> 08└─I think the plan is to get the things to thrust towards the earth. Using the laser to vaporize a bit on one side causes it to become a tiny little rocket for a moment. If you get it to thrust towards the earth. then on the next orbit it will be below you. Now, this might not help for something that...
[15:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:Cannon? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:12] <exec> 08└─The projectile is photons. Unless you're measuring them as waves, in which case it's more like one of those air cannon things that we all use to knock papers off our co-workers' desks.
[15:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cannon? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:14] <exec> 08└─Of course a laser is the most wave-like light you can have (having well-defined phase and not well defined particle number).
[15:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Seems unlikely - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:41] <exec> 08└─To put this in perspective about the idea coming from a 'SJW' site... The group behind this 'tool' is: The Center for Law and Social Policy (CLASP) is an American organization, based Washington, D.C., that advocates for policies aimed at improving the lives of low-income people.
[15:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The wuss! - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:32] <exec> 08└─If the cop is following the law as he understands it, in conformance with his training and department directives, then maybe I can see immunity if/when something goes wrong.
[15:08:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] 02Settlements are not judgements. - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 104 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:36] <exec> 08└─They don't set precedent. Better to sue for a dollar and set precedent, then to settle for twenty grand.
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[16:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:And space elevator - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:50] <exec> 08└─I don't understand why we are not pumping lots more money into space elevator research. It would give us the tools to put satellites into space at a tiny fraction of today's cost. This would allow us to do a number of cool things like: Orbital Solar Power Reflection of sunlight to mitigate climate c...
[16:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:links and comments - 06NASA Announces the 3D Printed Habitat Challenge For Moon and Mars Bases - 1959 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:59] <exec> 08└─Well... its part of Centennial Challenge, so kinda PR yeah http://www.nasa.gov [nasa.gov] Which has a lot of stuff in its mission like: "Provide a forum for public outreach" Its the same place that ran the robot sample return competition. I watche...
[16:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:What's the problem that needs solving - 06NASA Announces the 3D Printed Habitat Challenge For Moon and Mars Bases - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:02] <exec> 08└─One can make use of local materials. Most dust will form nice sturdy objects when exposed to directed heat and then allowed to cool. For precision objects one can melt the dust and use components like titanium etc. Which can then make up the object. Energy can be retrieved on site either in the form...
[16:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the problem that needs solving - 06NASA Announces the 3D Printed Habitat Challenge For Moon and Mars Bases - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:04] <exec> 08└─Unless they'll be 3D printing using space-dust
[16:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:14] <exec> 08└─Normally in the .mil things get fixed via complaint or abandonment
[16:06:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:15] <exec> 08└─A bureaucracy fixing it's internal problems? Ha-ha-ha, good one!
[16:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:17] <exec> 08└─A bureaucracy fixing it's internal problems without external pressure?
[16:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:18] <exec> 08└─At least in the American Army, you see a leaky valve you report it, it gets taken care of at best effort which is usually pretty good.
[16:06:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dismissive - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:22] <exec> 08└─I haven't read the article or the report or anything, but I do have a question for you: are you judging the whistle-blower based on the fact that he was not advanced, or did you go through his statement and judged it useless yourself? What I want to point out is that, as long as the facts themselves...
[16:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yates [3947] (Score:1) 02Re:MUCH more here than meets the eye - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:40] <exec> 08└─I believe this is the article that you were looking for. A Localization Horror Story: It Could Happen To You [cpan.org]
[16:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bryan [29] (Score:2) 02Re:not really worth it - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:41] <exec> 08└─I implemented machine translated content (stories and comments) on Pipedot [pipedot.org] a few months ago. The idea was that you could type in any language you want, and the site will automatically translate your comment [pipedot.org] into English. Alternatively, you can change your display language...
[16:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:other option - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:57] <exec> 08└─How ever did they win?
[16:06:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:other option - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:58] <exec> 08└─When you're in a foreign country and you ask someone "Where is the bus?" And they say "Nunna-kunnna." What do you do? Say it louder and slower, "WHERE, IS, THE, BUS!?". That's so dumb right? I mean try that the other way around; someone comes up to you and says "Nunna-kunnan". And you say "I'm sorry...
[16:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Not at the moment - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:05] <exec> 08└─Reducing server load such that fewer virtual machines are required, and thus costs, seems like the obvious first focus. Added smarts of passing pages through an additional filter for rewriting languages sounds like an obvious step in the other direction. Perfection is not achieved not when there are...
[16:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:probably redundant... - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:20] <exec> 08└─I'd go with cannons since they have actual experience with putting them on stations: http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[16:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cannon? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:30] <exec> 08└─You could easily measure the number of photons with a sensitive detector that clicks once for every photon.
[16:07:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Katastic [3340] (Score:1) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:56] <exec> 08└─Maybe your employer should start caring about your employees, pay them above average salaries and give them interesting jobs and they won't magically leave the second they get a chance to. If your employer spent 5% more money toward making your co-workers happy, healthy, and successful, they'd proba...
[16:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:doesn't matter - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:08] <exec> 08└─And then most people still won't care, so you won't change anything but inconvenience yourself.
[16:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Always get a giggle - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:17] <exec> 08└─Yes it is.
[16:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Sue? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:38] <exec> 08└─if they have a warrant then they're not breaking the law, warrants authorize them to get the evidence specified in the warrant, whether it requires looking in their phone or getting records from the email provider. the subject of this article is different, it authorizes them to go on fishing expedit...
[16:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03unitron [70] (Score:2) 02Re:I remember when the net in the '90s... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:05] <exec> 08└─But are those *dancing* gophers?
[16:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03unitron [70] (Score:2) 02Re:I remember when the net in the '90s... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:07] <exec> 08└─I liked it better when they sent out free floppies.
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[17:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Insightful) 02take it all - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:05:46] <exec> 08└─i'm tired of companies fucking people over and claiming they did nothing wrong. just take all of ITT's money, sell their assets, ban all people involved from working in finance and be done with it.
[17:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02Re:And space elevator - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:56] <exec> 08└─I don't understand why we are not pumping lots more money into space elevator research.
[17:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:And space elevator - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:57] <exec> 08└─> Bringing a small asteroid into Earth orbit and hollowing it out the way you want would require significant advances in either human spaceflight or remote-control craft. It's not that hard, you just need a space elevator to launch the reaction mass to oooohhhhhh I see.
[17:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And space elevator - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:59] <exec> 08└─I don't think you actually need the counterweight. Wikipedia at least says you might just need to make the cable longer.
[17:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:And space elevator - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:01] <exec> 08└─This is correct. A long enough rope weighs the same as an asteroid of whatever mass you'd like. Plus, you can climb PAST Geosynchronous orbit and slingshot to galaxies far, far away. Well, at least Mars.
[17:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:And space elevator - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:02] <exec> 08└─I don't understand why we are not pumping lots more money into space elevator research.
[17:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Chemistry question - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:06:04] <exec> 08└─researchers envision graphene being used in aerospace ... flame-retardants ...
[17:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Chemistry question - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:05] <exec> 08└─researchers envision graphene being used in aerospace ... flame-retardants ...
[17:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Chemistry question - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:07] <exec> 08└─There is no coal. There are many forms of the same substance. And that is the key. Once you have another atomic level shape in the substance then the property of the material is way different.
[17:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The organization better prove their case - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:24] <exec> 08└─How can you prove something didn't happen?
[17:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:30] <exec> 08└─A bureaucracy fixing it's internal problems? Ha-ha-ha, good one!
[17:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:34] <exec> 08└─I agree with everything but the racial profiling line. The fact that he's in the navy and cleared is what gets him close, not the fact that he is white. Now, there may racial profiling that keep someone from being cleared, but that's clearly far before that person shows up at the door.
[17:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Dismissive - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:40] <exec> 08└─I've not served in the Navy myself, I'd have no context in which to judge the report on the basis on it's merits, but it's telling the Navy spokesperson separates the issues of the unauthorised release of the report and the content of the report itself. It gives the Navy manoeuvring room to both pub...
[17:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Dismissive - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:41] <exec> 08└─Did you serve on submarines? When I was in the Navy, I very often heard that a submariner E3 is given much greater responsibilities than a Seaman anywhere else in the Navy. An E4 transferred from a submarine to my command, and the chiefs treated him like an old man who had already seen it all. I don...
[17:06:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03quadrox [315] 02Software/localization is not the mission - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 541 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:06:51] <exec> 08└─To be clear: If there are volunteers who want to do work on localization, that is of course entirely up to them. That being said, I don't see any of this to be part of the SN mission. Any software development that is done as part of SN is incidental - it is a means to and end, the end being a site w...
[17:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03danomac [979] (Score:2) 02Re:not really worth it - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:01] <exec> 08└─I won't mind having a non-English version of SN, but translating the UI would be a prelude to that, as well as recruiting a new editorial team to be able manage it. I only speak English, a little Spanish, and bad English.
[17:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Weapon use? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:34] <exec> 08└─If this gets into KSP it would have to be a mod; I doubt it would become cannon any time soon.
[17:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:State of Aggregation - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:47] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure the vapor would be akin to RCS thruster exaust. Light and dispersed.
[17:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:19] <exec> 08└─Sadly, no. As soon as you train them, they jump to a better job.
[17:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Gimme Basic Income - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:23] <exec> 08└─The idea behind basic incomes is that businesses can't survive if nobody has any money to spend. If people are guaranteed to have survival costs covered, that automatically makes every dollar they have disposable, which means demand, which means $profit.
[17:08:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] 02doesn't matter - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 1435 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:27] <exec> 08└─The total cost of turnover simply doesn't matter. Managers think in the short term. They set the amount they want their bonus to be this year, and purge workers until they save the company enough money to pay that bonus. That's about all managers do any longer. They aren't trying to plan for the lon...
[17:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:doesn't matter - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:34] <exec> 08└─Maybe pick the lesser evil, but that's about it.
[17:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the liquidity preferences aren't the only probl - 06Some Valuations of 'Unicorn' Tech Startups May Be Overblown - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:47] <exec> 08└─Going to Venture Capital firms is fucking stupid if you actually give a fuck about your company. If you get funded by VCs, you've already sold your company and are just waiting for your payday.
[17:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03cellocgw [4190] (Score:1) 02preferred stock? - 06Some Valuations of 'Unicorn' Tech Startups May Be Overblown - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:48] <exec> 08└─Question for those who understand securities: how is this setup different from companies which issue multiple levels of "preferred stock," which I was told back in Jr. High meant they were guaranteed to be paid off first when disaster strikes?
[17:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:The wuss! - 06Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:19] <exec> 08└─qualified immunity does not protect against incompetence or willful violations of the law or constitution, which is what we have here.
[17:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My gripe about GMO foods... - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:40] <exec> 08└─See, having stringent investigations for that kind of stuff is fine. Plants making their own insecticide is pretty icky and just begs contamination. Most anti-GMO nuts are violently against every GMO plant, even ones like golden rice [wikipedia.org] which just adds some vitamins and such.
[17:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My gripe about GMO foods... - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:41] <exec> 08└─pretty icky
[17:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My gripe about GMO foods... - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:42] <exec> 08└─There would be no pesticide use if there were no GMOs, right?
[17:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Always get a giggle - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:48] <exec> 08└─Don't make shit up or misrepresent the real issues. There is plenty of data on food alergies and nobody is developing entirely new sequences.
[17:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:Always get a giggle - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 913 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:50] <exec> 08└─Why is a random mutation in a plant considered "good" and a controlled change considered "bad"? Why do you assume that all off the "available code" configurations are "good", and all the "new code" configuration are "bad"? It simply doesn't make any sense. I assert that some of the random mutations...
[17:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So how far did he get? - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:13] <exec> 08└─When the plutocrats give you something, it's not because they want to be your friend, it's because they expect something in return. If you don't play the game, these criminals have the money to buy new pawns to replace you. Someone's going to have a tough time of it...
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[18:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03That_Dude [2503] (Score:2) 02Re:take it all - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:48] <exec> 08└─But then those same companies get to file bankruptcy and then those from finance get assistance to retrain and qualify as displaced workers. I fail to understand this as a fitting form of punishment when mercy is taken as weakness instead of kindness.
[18:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Some Shack - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:05:49] <exec> 08└─The court filing asserts that ITT even went so far as to start secretly making payments on behalf of students who were in default so as to avoid having to make far larger payments to the investors who had backed the loans.
[18:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Funny) 02Anecdote - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:05:51] <exec> 08└─A friend of mine told me he was relieved that he had finally gotten accepted into ITT Tech. I asked him: "What'd you do, pass through the front door?" He doesn't click 'like' on any of my posts anymore.
[18:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Chemistry question - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:07] <exec> 08└─diamonds are also made out of only carbon and yet they dont burn well at all.
[18:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chemistry question - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:09] <exec> 08└─You are aware that aluminium can burn, too? Not everything that can burn is also flammable.
[18:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 2012 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:39] <exec> 08└─"If your humvee leaks oil, you redline it on the monthly PMCS form and it gets fixed or someone gets disciplined for not un-red-lining it, publishing to wikileaks doesn't really work, doesn't really do anything." What if you are receiving undue pressure from a senior officer to NOT red-line it to be...
[18:06:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Software/localization is not the mission - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:57] <exec> 08└─I tend to agree, that while possible, its not all that useful. Especially when there is no intent to translate the articles. It seem pointless in this day and age when you can simply read the site through google translate if one were so inclined. Being all text, google translate converts the whole s...
[18:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:MUCH more here than meets the eye - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:05] <exec> 08└─Having spent several years learning and using Russian
[18:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03andersjm [3931] (Score:1) 02The default should never be a partial translation - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:14] <exec> 08└─I'm not looking forward to seeing mixed-language gobbledygook in my browser, which is the direction in which you're heading. Will you hold off upgrades until all translations are fully updated? Will you treat every missing translation as a bug? I rather doubt it. And that means all your language fil...
[18:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Choice - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:19] <exec> 08└─Python, JavaScript, Lua, C, Rust, MelScript, VBScript, Pascal, or Cobol?
[18:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:other option - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:30] <exec> 08└─Why don't you follow the time-honoured British tradition and simply speak loudly and slowly for the foreigners. (bold and fontsize +2)?
[18:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02I'd much rather have more comments - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:38] <exec> 08└─I'd prefer to have stories with hundred/s of comments, rather than many stories with only a few comments. The readership here is intelligent enough to present well-considered observations and questions in many different areas, and I'd like to see many more peoples' input on the stories, even if it w...
[18:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03throwaway28 [5181] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Ne utila nune. - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:40] <exec> 08└─Nune, tute de la korpo skribis en anglo. Do, nenial por traduki la kapo. --- As long as english or bad english remains the lingua franca of the commenters, there's no reason to translate the UI yet. --- Sed, mi esperas ke iam, iam tre malproksima, tio lingvo farigxos la lingua franca.
[18:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02As a non-native english speaker - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:42] <exec> 08└─Please don't. There's lots of work to be done as is. Also The userbase isn't huge in itself, and it would end up fragmenting, probably. This would just result in less quality overall, I think. Higher editorial overload with same resources, less comments, cultural horizon. I think it's not a good ide...
[18:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03forkazoo [2561] (Score:2) 02Re:State of Aggregation - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:03] <exec> 08└─The laser also imparts some kinetic energy directly, so some of the vapor is being pushed out of orbit as well, rather than staying in orbit. The vapor particles will also be heading in fairly random directions, so a lot of it that gets pushed out will now be in a weird highly eccentric orbit that m...
[18:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03forkazoo [2561] (Score:2) 02Re:In Related News: - 06Black Silicon Solar Cell Efficiency at 22.1% - 1068 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:22] <exec> 08└─"Win" and "Lose" depends on the application. For home solar, you'd never use the highest efficiency panels in the world at any given time since the price will be crazy. You can charge 100's of times the price of lesser panels for the highest efficiency ones for applications like satellites in space...
[18:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:In Related News: - 06Black Silicon Solar Cell Efficiency at 22.1% - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:23] <exec> 08└─> solar cell efficiency record is 46% "... Fraunhofer Institute for Solar Energy Systems ..." Expect patents... A physical invention that turns sunlight into electricity in the most efficient manner possible. If there is anything that actually deserves a patent, that's it.
[18:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:preferred stock? - 06Some Valuations of 'Unicorn' Tech Startups May Be Overblown - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:07] <exec> 08└─Fenwick & and West indicated that all the deals they looked at gave the new investors liquidation preference over common stock; in addition, 19 percent of the deals contained language ("super liquidation preference") giving the new investors preference over preferred stock.
[18:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re: Making things up - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 1036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:10] <exec> 08└─Are you asserting that every GMO producer labels the origins of their inserted sequences on the product? They're fighting to prevent being forced to disclose the modification at all, let alone divulging trade secrets like the origins of the code they used. Also, please do some research [lmgtfy.com]...
[18:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Warrants do not authorise illegal acts in the UK - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:32] <exec> 08└─Warrants do not authorise UK police or security personnel to 'hack' hack into computers, because the act of hacking is against the law. Now it is legal for the intelligence services and the police to conduct such operations, hence the statement in TFA: The UK government has quietly passed new legisl...
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[19:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Doesn't that result in a concomitant savings? - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:53] <exec> 08└─If the oil companies get this money directly from the government, doesn't that mean that they are then able to charge that much less for their product? Making things such as heating oil and gasoline for commuting to work that much more affordable?
[19:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't that result in a concomitant savings? - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:54] <exec> 08└─In theory. But it also means they can take that savings and give it to shareholders and management. I'm sure it is a combination of both. Guess where most of it goes?
[19:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Subsidies isn't a straightforward business - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:55] <exec> 08└─Suppose public transit would charge the full cost of passengers. Then people would clog the roads with more cars and travel less which perhaps costs more than the subsidy in lost tax revenue and GDP would probably also take a dive. So subsidies are not always straight forward. There's synergistic ef...
[19:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02I See Folks With Long Cars and Fine Clothes - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:57] <exec> 08└─That old sayin them that's got are them that gets Is somethin I can't see If ya gotta have somethin Before you can get somethin How do ya get your first is still a mystery to me
[19:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Double taxation - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:59] <exec> 08└─environmental damage—including global warming, local pollution, traffic congestion and accidents—from energy consumption is just as real as are traditional supply costs (even if harder to measure) and the prices that consumers pay should reflect these negative “externalities.”
[19:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02I always hate this type of analysis - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:06:01] <exec> 08└─I have always hated the kind of thinking used in these types of stories. Because when someone says something not being taxed means it is a subsidy seems to mean someone has a political ax to grind against specified industry. Similar logic is used in this NY Times interactive article to come up with...
[19:06:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02take it all - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 197 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:06:07] <exec> 08└─i'm tired of companies fucking people over and claiming they did nothing wrong. just take all of ITT's money, sell their assets, ban all people involved from working in finance and be done with it.
[19:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Chemistry question - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:26] <exec> 08└─It's going to be a fun evening with my blowtorch :)
[19:06:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chemistry question - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:29] <exec> 08└─Pure carbon has a very high ignition temperature, probably due to the very high temperature needed to turn it to vapour. (It requires an almost 30 MJ/kg of enthalpy starting from 300 K. Much higher than other famous refractory materials such as tungsten, but lower than beryllium.) You can hold molte...
[19:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Graphene Toxicity - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:06:32] <exec> 08└─Great! Now we get to find out the hard way if graphene is toxic or not. [eetimes.com]
[19:06:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:The organization better prove their case - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:53] <exec> 08└─It's not a crime if there is noone who can/will prosecute it.
[19:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:03] <exec> 08└─receiving undue pressure from a senior officer to NOT red-line it
[19:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:05] <exec> 08└─"Why the captain (or above) would care if I redline one of our many humvees would be a mystery." Because he owes someone else who cares would be the most likely scenario, but you never know. It would also be possible he has either a monetary or a career interest in minimizing such reports under his...
[19:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting, but unimpressed - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:06] <exec> 08└─FIGMO SNAFU FUBAR TARFU SHTF BOHICA
[19:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The underclasses are there for a reason - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:14] <exec> 08└─Well, it's from the UK. People must know their place and stick to it from cradle to grave.
[19:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Choice - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:40] <exec> 08└─And what if cookies are not allowed either?
[19:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Choice - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:47] <exec> 08└─D actually.
[19:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Difficulties with localization - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:53] <exec> 08└─There are also a great wealth of idioms of english speech that come and go so quickly that even native speakers have to resort to the Urban Dictionary just to know what the hell someone is talking about. On english help websites or mailing lists, you eventually pick up on faulty translations have pr...
[19:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Not for Soylent News - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 829 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:10] <exec> 08└─Having localization would certainly make it easier to employ the software for other sites in another language. But for Soylent News, I don't see how it would help: The stories are in English, and if you can't understand enough English to cope with the interface, you certainly won't be able to unders...
[19:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Weapon use? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:21] <exec> 08└─i'm pretty sure anything in space could function as an anti-satellite weapon. no sense worrying about that. what you should be worrying about is your dependence on satellites and how easily they can be taken down...and how money/time hard they are to get back up. a nations infrastructure should rely...
[19:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:State of Aggregation - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:34] <exec> 08└─You merely try to get it to thrust against the direction of travel. Orbital mechanics will handle the rest.
[19:08:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:State of Aggregation - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:37] <exec> 08└─I fully know the whole piece of junk does not evaporate, and no I did not misread the summary.
[19:08:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cannon? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:42] <exec> 08└─High degree of coherence doesn't make it any more wave-like then if all your waves had random phase.
[19:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cannon? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:44] <exec> 08└─I see. So my laser pointer or flashlight IS a cannon then.
[19:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:14] <exec> 08└─Why wouldn't you want to become the "better" job and attract talent from other companies?
[19:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:15] <exec> 08└─Why wouldn't you want to become the "better" job and attract talent from other companies?
[19:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Strawberry - 06Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:03] <exec> 08└─I think the .something TLD might be interesting.
[19:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: Making things up - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:47] <exec> 08└─Where is the evidence that any GMO causes an allergic reaction? There is no problem with allergies and any current GMO food. There are no GMOs that contain novel proteins. This is not the same thing as custom synthesis of DNA oligos and the most common use for it is to make primers for sequencing or...
[19:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Warrants do not authorise illegal acts in the U - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:14] <exec> 08└─I think that you are looking at this with a US viewpoint which is not applicable to how the UK operates. Warrants in the UK do not authorise the collection of evidence by any possible means, only by lawful means. Hacking is now lawful for those organisations identified in the new legislation.
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[20:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't that result in a concomitant savings? - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:01] <exec> 08└─Right, but if the government just yanked the subsidies today, you'd go crazy voting for the pro-subsidy people because of damn government meddling. Well. Not you specifically. But "swing voters" would overwhelmingly do that.
[20:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't that result in a concomitant savings? - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:02] <exec> 08└─Not if they got subsidy checks in the mail in the form of energy vouchers spendable on any energy bill including a solar installation. That's a bit ugly, but it is probably the only way to begin winding the subsidies down.
[20:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't that result in a concomitant savings? - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:03] <exec> 08└─Oh, I didn't mean to imply it was an unsolvable problem. I'm always down to listen to status-quo aware incentive shift programs. But they still get demonized as unnecessary taxes or entitlements in the public debate. A recent example being cap and trade carbon limitting programs. Very quickly labele...
[20:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Doesn't that result in a concomitant savings? - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:05] <exec> 08└─charge ... less for their product
[20:06:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] 02I always hate this type of analysis - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 493 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:06:09] <exec> 08└─I have always hated the kind of thinking used in these types of stories. Because when someone says something not being taxed means it is a subsidy seems to mean someone has a political ax to grind against specified industry. Similar logic is used in this NY Times interactive article to come up with...
[20:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03hojo [4254] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:I always hate this type of analysis - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:11] <exec> 08└─No, it would still be wrong. If I hit almost everyone I pass with a baseball bat, but skip the blondes, this does not represent a subsidy to the blondes. Lack of harm does not equal encouragement.
[20:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I always hate this type of analysis - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:12] <exec> 08└─It is messed up that you equate paying for national infrastructure with hitting people with a baseball bat.
[20:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anecdote - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:23] <exec> 08└─Anyone that goes to a for-profit school is a dumbass.
[20:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Anecdote - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 1261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:25] <exec> 08└─You'd think I would agree with you since I'm self-taught and successful. But the problem is life has shown me that it's not as clear cut as that. At a place I worked we needed to staff up. My supervisor and I knew an instructor at a private school and we asked him to send us five of his best stude...
[20:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Poor investors - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:06:27] <exec> 08└─An SEC victory would bring relief to ITT's investors, who suffered losses when the student loan information eventually came to light and sent the firm's stock price tumbling.
[20:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Poor investors - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:28] <exec> 08└─Also... free market!
[20:06:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:links and comments - 06NASA Announces the 3D Printed Habitat Challenge For Moon and Mars Bases - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:58] <exec> 08└─it does seem like the best approach would be to bore a shaft into the surface, then 3d print a 'tower' into the shaft. this is how the infamous wizard, Mordellicus, created his dungeon of evil - or so it is rumored in the local tavern where your party has assembled. the son of a local shepherd claim...
[20:07:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bryan [29] 02Re:not really worth it - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 636 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:53] <exec> 08└─I implemented machine translated content (stories and comments) on Pipedot [pipedot.org] a few months ago. The idea was that you could type in any language you want, and the site will automatically translate your comment [pipedot.org] into English. Alternatively, you can change your display language...
[20:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Balderdash [693] (Score:2) 02The short answer: - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:08:28] <exec> 08└─No.
[20:08:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03acharax [4264] (Score:2) 02Re:The short answer: - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:30] <exec> 08└─I second this sentiment. Part of why I come to a site like this is precisely because it is not localized in any fashion.
[20:08:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:damn you Mike Myers - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:46] <exec> 08└─It would only be "bond-villainesque" if it was pointed TOWARD the ISS
[20:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Cannon? - 06ISS May Get Laser Cannon - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:05] <exec> 08└─Mr. Dick Chenery says: can·non ˈkanən/ noun noun: cannon; plural noun: cannons; noun: cannon bit; plural noun: cannon bits 1. a large, heavy piece of artillery, typically mounted on wheels, formerly used in warfare. Except for not having wheels, I think it qualifies for t...
[20:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:38] <exec> 08└─I fail to see how your statements logically follow from the GP's suggestion. How would striving to be a better company and employer than others lead to not spending money on training?
[20:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:doesn't matter - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:54] <exec> 08└─By starting a consulting/outsourcing company?
[20:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Always get a giggle - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:15] <exec> 08└─Selective breading is choosing whether to use cornmeal or flour when you bread your meat.
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[21:05:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Waste of time - 06 A Solitaire Tournament to Celebrate 25 Years of Wasting Time - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:05:45] <exec> 08└─That particular waste of time is an exercise in time management when future quantities are unknown. A real waste of time is discussing smartphone OSes on Slashdot.
[21:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Not immediately clear? - 06 A Solitaire Tournament to Celebrate 25 Years of Wasting Time - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:05:47] <exec> 08└─> It's not immediately clear to me how you run a tournament for a single-player, non-competitive, randomized game where only around 80 percent of games are even theoretically winnable, but why not. Don't randomize them. Everyone plays the same games. I mean, it even says in the Microsoft article (TF...
[21:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some Shack - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:18] <exec> 08└─> how is this any different than the hedge funds' openly paying RadioShack (covering expenses...) > to declare bankruptcy in February because how their default swaps were structured? Seems like that word in bold might have something to do with it. Just sayin.
[21:06:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anecdote - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:22] <exec> 08└─First, gotta get the pedantry out of the way - all for-profit schools are private schools, but not all private schools are for-profit schools. As for those butt-kickers, my first stab at explaining that would be to think of it like a glass of water. Everybody comes in with a different amount of wate...
[21:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trade school - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:06:26] <exec> 08└─For what it's worth, ITT Tech had been around longer than the Heald College/federal loan scams, and they presented themselves as a trade school upfront.
[21:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trade school - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:27] <exec> 08└─You are right. But it sure sounds like they abandoned their integrity as the industry of for profit-schools was colonized by wall-street. Corruption is contagious.
[21:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Software/localization is not the mission - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:43] <exec> 08└─This. Do *I* think we *need* it? No, I do not. Being able to operate SN in another language may be of some value; but as the content is english; having the menus in another language isn't likely going to be that valuable to anyone. here or that valuable to anyone who might join. If someone wants to...
[21:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:other option - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:19] <exec> 08└─Maybe Garret Morris was speaking a foreign language.(?) ... https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[21:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02It's the UK not America - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 2205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:40] <exec> 08└─There is a clear intelligence need to control the enemy's use of the the electro-magentic spectrum. The law as passed specifically mentions GCHQ and the intelligence services as needing the ability to access and control threat systems covertly. In the UK, the police conduct very little in the way of...
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[22:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Waste of time - 06 A Solitaire Tournament to Celebrate 25 Years of Wasting Time - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:06] <exec> 08└─That particular waste of time is an exercise in time management when future quantities are unknown.
[22:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Doesn't that result in a concomitant savings? - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:21] <exec> 08└─That's only part of the problem. The other distortion in the market is that because, say, half the cost is something you pay whether or not you purchase oil-based products, it means urban folks who use public transit or travel on foot are paying for rural folks' gasoline.
[22:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:I always hate this type of analysis - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:30] <exec> 08└─The difference between extortion and involuntary taxation is.. Wait, there's a difference?
[22:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I always hate this type of analysis - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:31] <exec> 08└─> The difference between extortion and involuntary taxation is.. Extortion doesn't pay for the infrastructure you depend on to live. Nobody on soylent is under 30 years old and yet teenage logic is still de rigueur.
[22:06:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I always hate this type of analysis - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:33] <exec> 08└─It's not involuntary, you can totally pick up and move to another country whenever you like. What? You don't have the money for international travel? You should have thought of that before being born poor.
[22:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Anecdote - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:48] <exec> 08└─C'mon, Tork, your anecdote is not making anything any clearer! At a place I worked we needed to staff up. My supervisor and I knew an instructor at a private school and we asked him to send us five of his best students. All of them soundly kicked butt and, frankly, you've seen and enjoyed their wor...
[22:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:MUCH more here than meets the eye - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 2730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:18] <exec> 08└─I didn't realise that anyone was suggesting that each page that needs to be translated on the fly is going to be submitted to Google for translation. But the problem remains that where in English there are only usually two visually different forms of a word - singular and plural - there exist many d...
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[23:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Dumb question... - 06SatNav Sensors Monitoring Large Structure Stresses and Deformations - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:54] <exec> 08└─If you are trying to figure out the stresses from bridge movement and/or close the bridge during extreme events, how is a satellite position better than real-time integration of accelerometers? I can see how long-term, the sats could give you movements that are beyond the accelerometers' precision....
[23:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Dumb question... - 06SatNav Sensors Monitoring Large Structure Stresses and Deformations - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:55] <exec> 08└─The satellite doesn't "observe" the structures, it's just a beacon transmitting GPS signals. The trick is in the GPS receivers acting as high precision sensors - you have instant displacements without the errors involved by a double integration over time of acceleration. TFA: The team fixed highly s...
[23:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Waste of time - 06 A Solitaire Tournament to Celebrate 25 Years of Wasting Time - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:05] <exec> 08└─Why is discussion about smartphone OSes on Slashdot a waste?
[23:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Solaitre & Mind Sweeper are for interface training - 06 A Solitaire Tournament to Celebrate 25 Years of Wasting Time - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:08] <exec> 08└─Solitaire teaches the uses of "double click", "drag and drop" with a familiar game most be know. Mind Sweeper teaches "left-right click" and "multi-right click" to make the game play faster. Largest standard board, I could clear in under 2 minutes. I pointed this out to my mother's CPA group, that...
[23:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:Double taxation - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:25] <exec> 08└─Basically they want them to pay twice. Because the consumers are already paying those costs directly, and its not like the government is every going to step in and pay those expenses for me anytime soon.
[23:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:I always hate this type of analysis - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:33] <exec> 08└─The difference between extortion and involuntary taxation is
[23:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I always hate this type of analysis - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:35] <exec> 08└─Taxes pay for the civilisation you live under. Now you could argue about how much civilisation you are getting for the level of taxation you are paying, that your government is wasting tax money on things that you'd rather they not spend it on, but hey, you're supposedly living in a democracy and sh...
[23:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I always hate this type of analysis - 06Governments Gift Fossil Fuel Companies $10M/Minute - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:37] <exec> 08└─If I hit almost everyone I pass with a baseball bat, but skip the blondes, this does not represent a subsidy to the blondes. Lack of harm does not equal encouragement.
[23:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Anecdote - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:52] <exec> 08└─So other than the fact that the super knew someone whose judgment was trustworthy who happened to the an instructor at a for-profit school (some times a job is just a job, when it comes to teaching), what does this have to do with the quality of education at for-profit schools?
[23:06:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Poor investors - 06SEC Files Suit Against ITT Educational Services for Fraud - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:56] <exec> 08└─Clearly these people didn't get an economics degree at ITT which would or wouldn't have explained to them that investing is risky and that this is the reason you get dividends. It's a compensation for the risk you as an investor take on. The downside of getting a dividend is that one day the dividen...
[23:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:And space elevator - 06ORNL Demonstrates Large Scale Production of Graphene - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:12] <exec> 08└─This is correct. A long enough rope weighs the same as an asteroid of whatever mass you'd like.
[23:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:The organization better prove their case - 06Trident Whistleblower: Nuclear Disaster Waiting to Happen - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:45] <exec> 08└─They still don't have credibility to say these things didn't happen..
[23:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmoschner [3296] (Score:2) 02Re:not really worth it - 06Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:31] <exec> 08└─I don't think it is worth it at this time. Perhaps one the user base has grown. Maybe as a compromise consider putting the bing [bing.com] or google [google.com] translation widget into each page so people can translate if they so wish without it taking up much dev time. Don't know, just an idea.
[23:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03CyprusBlue [943] (Score:1) 02Re:"We want someone who can hit the ground running - 06New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:14] <exec> 08└─That's because the next job is willing to pay them what their experience is now worth, while the previous job holds the fantasy that the employee is not suddenly worth that much more after gaining needed (aka marketable) skills.
[23:11:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Documented GMO harm - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 864 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:35] <exec> 08└─Severe liver and kidney damage as well as endocrine abnormalities documented in laboratory animals: Roundup-Ready GMO Maize Causes Serious Health Damage [soylentnews.org] ...and when the boffins think they have outsmarted several million years of evolution, in just a few generations (read: growing s...
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