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[00:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:Just keep peeling.... - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:48] <exec> 08└─Sounds like it would be an excellent honey pot.
[00:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:50] <exec> 08└─There are gazillions of people who would be happy to pay the artist. The problem with that is, the artists doesn't get the revenues generated by these corporate profit schemes. Maybe you should research how many artists have made millions upon millions for a label, then ended up penniless. The contr...
[00:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:51] <exec> 08└─Yet try telling any upstart band that is starting to make a name for itself NOT to sign the Contract. You simply can not pound it into their heads. You think it would be easy with today's tech savvy younger generation, they have YouTube, they have Google Music Amazon Music that will both take indi m...
[00:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:53] <exec> 08└─You can point to thousands of exceptions with small followings on sites like Bandcamp or Soundcloud. You haven't heard of them, they may not even be looking for money, and they disprove "the rule". Technology has made it a lot easier to operate outside the labels. We could even talk about successful...
[00:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:55] <exec> 08└─Funny thing - you won't see the RIAA-like organizations enforcing any kind of copyright law for these indies.
[00:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:56] <exec> 08└─I'm just surprised that there is still a market for illegal music streaming/downloading...
[00:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:58] <exec> 08└─The way these kids look these days, they consume music
[00:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What about semen? - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:06] <exec> 08└─What happens to all of the semen in space? The male astronauts do masturbate, I would have to assume. Even if they don't, soon enough their penises will wildly squirt out the excess semen while they sleep. So where does it all go?
[00:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Next week.... - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:06:15] <exec> 08└─Hahaha, It will likely be a mod in Kerbal Space Program within a week......
[00:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:simple solution: https only - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:48] <exec> 08└─They have lots of money, too. They could just buy these telecom companies.
[00:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:Strange - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:13] <exec> 08└─+1 common sense
[00:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rot in hell, motherfucka - 06Jury Specifies Death for Boston Marathon Bomber - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:54] <exec> 08└─So basically you are arguing with his word choice.
[00:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Facebook - 06Oculus Rift Hardware Requirements Revealed, Linux and OS X Development Halted - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:45] <exec> 08└─I would agree that it isn't a perfect representation. But i totally disagree with your reason. You could never use the Oculus Rift anyways without installing proprietary binary blobs for GPU and the rift itself. Most games with rift support are closed source so you couldn't play them either.
[00:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Facebook - 06Oculus Rift Hardware Requirements Revealed, Linux and OS X Development Halted - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:12] <exec> 08└─They're under no obligation to even release graphics drivers for Windows or OS X, either - and if they don't make decent drivers for the platform I want, I'm free to tell them to fuck off while I go buy from their competitors. That doesn't mean I have to like it when people that make good hardware r...
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[01:05:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:45] <exec> 08└─Manipulative newspeak. It's a right, if the CORPORATION wishes to extend it to you, without benefit of collective bargaining on your side. It ceases to be a "right" when the CORPORATION lays you off, and transports labour cost to another location.
[01:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02They need to track the "chickenshit" vote - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:46] <exec> 08└─Some peeps don't want to take a public stance on a position? Give them a chickenshit tick. If memory serves, our current president had a huge number of chickenshit ticks when he got elected. If you can vote "present", you can vote "yay" or "nay". If you can't vote "present" you should have a damned...
[01:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03spamdog [4335] (Score:1) 02Re:They need to track the "chickenshit" vote - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:05:47] <exec> 08└─tl;dr - Thanks Obama!
[01:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:They need to track the "chickenshit" vote - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:05:49] <exec> 08└─It looks like they have been tracked.
[01:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:03] <exec> 08└─Actually, they are more than happy to do so: https://torrentfreak.com [torrentfreak.com] Kind of.
[01:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:HVAC Design - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:23] <exec> 08└─Beethoven's #2
[01:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03tadas [3635] (Score:2) 02So, in other words, - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:26] <exec> 08└─the shit is *supposed* to hit the fan....
[01:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02When I was married - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:28] <exec> 08└─I used to always say things like "oooh, closed door. You pushing one out?", or, from the living room, "damn, I can smell you from here!". Funny thing was, she had no shyness about her toilet habits. When I was on the pot she would open the door and say "everything coming out ok?", or when she was in...
[01:06:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have Not Thought This Through... - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:55] <exec> 08└─> NEWS FLASH... you can live without Googles services.. I have been for at least 6 years now. NEWS FLASH... there as an enormous difference between can and want. The overwhelming majority of the population does not want to forgo the inconvenience [of using Google].
[01:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:African-American is a silly word - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:53] <exec> 08└─Scorched faces? Hmmmmm - the Greeks originated those stupid jokes about leaving the bread in the oven to long? It was probably the Romans who fired back, saying that the white Europeans weren't left in the oven long enough.
[01:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:control? Really poor article. - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:05] <exec> 08└─He is institutionalized, and has universal access?
[01:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Punk? - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:24] <exec> 08└─The real issue is that very little punk got anywhere near a chart (and mostly didn't want to), so it was left out of their analysis entirely. The few songs that did chart were more 'approachable' and so mainstream sounding. As you point out, it's influence came later but only after it passed throug...
[01:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:A wee problem - 06Jury Specifies Death for Boston Marathon Bomber - 1017 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:21] <exec> 08└─The jury was vetted to *not be opposed* to the death penalty, not *to be in favor of* the death penalty. These are important distinctions, because here in MA (yeah, I live a few miles away from the marathon finish line and work around the corner from where Collier was murdered) there is no death pen...
[01:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:A wee problem - 06Jury Specifies Death for Boston Marathon Bomber - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:22] <exec> 08└─That in itself is a distortion of the jury of one's peers. It would be the same as finding a jury "not opposed" to charges of felony jaywalking with a 30 year minimum. The defense didn't get to pre-screen the jury for not being opposed ti jihad. We have a defines system of jury selection that is set...
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[02:05:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] 02Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 247 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:48] <exec> 08└─Manipulative newspeak. It's a right, if the CORPORATION wishes to extend it to you, without benefit of collective bargaining on your side. It ceases to be a "right" when the CORPORATION lays you off, and transports labour cost to another location.
[02:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:49] <exec> 08└─I indexed the link to the Wikipedia page to the Free-Ride aspect. In the dept. line, n1 used a similar phrase. It's about the ownership class attempting to disempower the working class through dilution of resources for collective bargaining. In Michigan and Wisconsin, for example, workers/voters hav...
[02:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 1111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:50] <exec> 08└─You have a very one-sided view. Face it, the economy is global now, and has been for some time. How is an American company supposed to survive if it has to pay its unionized workers $80/hour, while somebody in Mexico or China doing the same job will do it for $3/hour, or some Japanese robots will do...
[02:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02An ax to grind? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:54] <exec> 08└─Are you blaming the most recent guy for something in particular? ...or are you being partisan and giving the other big party a free pass? To find a president that isn't/wasn't Neoliberal (cozy with the elite class at the expense of workers), you have to go back to Ike. Under Eisenhower, the marginal...
[02:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02present vs no vote? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:56] <exec> 08└─Does this state allow you to vote even though you are not present? I can see sometimes you have to be 'out' but at those numbers the bill should have died to do 'no vote'...
[02:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:present vs no vote? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:57] <exec> 08└─the bill should have died [due to?] 'no vote' 9th grade Civics: quorum [google.com] -- gewg_
[02:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Difference between Union and Sub-Contractor? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:59] <exec> 08└─A shop unionizes, then a corporation is formed to negotiate for the members and stake holders of the corporation and the business. A sub-contractor, is normally a corporation that negotiates with the business to replace workers with their workers. In both cases, the corporation is an outside “busi...
[02:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Scab labor - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:01] <exec> 08└─A sub-contractor, is normally a corporation that negotiates with the business to replace workers with their workers. If there is a union contract in place I can't imagine how that wouldn't violate the contract (unless the union had someone incredibly stupid draw up that contract). ...and just replac...
[02:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scab labor - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:02] <exec> 08└─gewg_ isn't trolling. He's just discussing typical union tactics. Those typically include violence, and lots of it. Yes, it's disgusting in any civilized society, but it's just the nature of unions. gewg_ isn't trolling by pointing out this fact.
[02:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Just keep peeling.... - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 1433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:11] <exec> 08└─Why bother? There is plenty of servers in Idontgiveafuckistan which is how all those pirate movie sites stay up and running, they just grab a dozen sites like .to, .cn, .ru and so on and if the *.A.A manages to get one? Well again plenty more located in places that will wipe their ass with any paper...
[02:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:2) 02Re:What about semen? - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:28] <exec> 08└─Uranus
[02:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When I was married - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:41] <exec> 08└─Sigh. Why did I ever let her go?
[02:06:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When I was married - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:42] <exec> 08└─Maybe you didn't cup her balls enough while stroking her shaft? Maybe that's why she left?
[02:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have Not Thought This Through... - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:11] <exec> 08└─The overwhelming majority of the population does not want to forgo the convenience.
[02:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:African-American is a silly word - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:05] <exec> 08└─That's why in Canada, they are referred to as "First Nations"—they aren't native to this land, but they were the first to form societies here.
[02:09:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02The *judge* ruled it? - 06When the Father of One Twin is Not the Father of the Other - 75 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:54] <exec> 08└─the judge ruled that the father of one twin was not the father of the other
[02:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03aXis [2908] (Score:1) 02Biofuel - 06What Does Iowa Do With 33 Million Dead Chickens? - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:11:36] <exec> 08└─Cant they send them to the plant that uses turkey waste to produce petroleum hydrocarbons? http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[02:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03carguy [568] (Score:2) 02Re:I live in Western New York ... - 06The Store That Competes With Walmart Prices and Is Beloved By Employees - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:59] <exec> 08└─I'm near two Buffalo-area Wegmans -- there are plenty of them here, although there are probably even more near to you in their hometown of Rochester. Never noticed a bell tower, will take a look next time. One has a raised mezzanine with tables above the deli/prepared food section. A jazz band plays...
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[03:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:52] <exec> 08└─You know - you almost sounded like you knew what you were talking about for a short bit there. But - when you claim that the Chinese make higher quality product, you've lost it. The Chinese produce junk, almost exclusively. There is little that they produce that has any claim to quality. But, their...
[03:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:53] <exec> 08└─You never drove an American-made auto in the 1970s or 1980s, I see. The lack of quality then was of a degree that even the Chinese couldn't hope to match.
[03:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 1507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:54] <exec> 08└─The thing is *currently* most Chinese stuff is crap. Roll back 40 years and you would have said the exact same words about Japan and South Korea. The mexicans basically make all of our textiles now. All of the factories were moved to Mexico over the past 15 years. The *whole* factory. All that is le...
[03:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Self-hating member of the working class - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 1267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:56] <exec> 08└─How is an American company supposed to survive It worked quite well for 5 decades. ...then the working class was convinced through the Right-Wing media (it's NEVER been Left-Wing) to accept the swill called Reaganomics. Had every union member (and all of his family, friends, and neighbors) told ever...
[03:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self-hating member of the working class - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:58] <exec> 08└─Unionization only "worked" in America because it was the only major industrial power left after WWII that hadn't suffered near-total destruction of all of its infrastructure. As we all know, this union house of cards came crashing down the moment Japan had recovered enough to offer some economic com...
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[03:05:59] <exec> 08└─Low paid workers and robots will not buy the cars.
[03:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:01] <exec> 08└─Like we saw in America in the 1970s, even well-paid unionized workers won't buy cars that are of a remarkably shitty quality, yet still quite costly, all thanks to the price being driven up by undeserved and unjustifiable union benefits (like wages several times the true value that the worker provid...
[03:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:02] <exec> 08└─But I note that they don't sell those products here in the U.S. at those 3rd world prices. So I'll turn that around, how are workers here supposed to work at $3/hr when it takes more than twice that just to be above the poverty line? The big 3 weren't killed by unions, they were killed by crooked CE...
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[03:06:04] <exec> 08└─Why do you ignore the obvious differences here? If non-unionized workers get laid off by the corporation they work for due to inefficiency and unjustifiably high wages, those workers are out of a job. If unionized workers bankrupt the corporation they work for due to inefficiency and unjustifiably h...
[03:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:05] <exec> 08└─Interesting. However, there's a thing that you choose to ignore and push ahead a false dichotomy (a corporation going bankrupt because of inefficiency imposed by unionized workers vs no unions at all). I haven't heard your "analysis" of corps doing it anyway (no matter unionized workers or not) in t...
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[03:06:07] <exec> 08└─It's an appropriate term, contrary to your misleading claims. Unions are the ones preventing people from working, by forcing these victims into submitting to collective bargaining, especially when it is not in the best interest of these victims. "Right to work" is very appropriate term to use, becau...
[03:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:09] <exec> 08└─Use the _full_ name of such legislation: "The Right to Work for Less". Someone has a very tenuous grasp of economics: Unions are the ones preventing people from working, by forcing these victims into submitting to collective bargaining, especially when it is not in the best interest of these victim...
[03:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:10] <exec> 08└─Economic theory is fucking useless. It doesn't matter what your beloved Herr Marx wrote so many decades ago. Economic reality is what matters. Anyone with even the smallest comprehension of the history of American industry will know that unionization destroyed it.
[03:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:An ax to grind? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:12] <exec> 08└─We get it, jewg_. You didn't vote for the most recent guy. You only vote for losers who you know will lose, so you can take the moral high ground. Lofty enough for you up there? Sure you don't want deification for your holiness?
[03:06:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:An ax to grind? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:13] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure why you seem to be mocking him because he supposedly doesn't vote for evil scumbags. I would think that is a positive course of action, surely?
[03:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:An ax to grind? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:15] <exec> 08└─The only candidate I could see gewg_ voting for is Lev Bronshtein.
[03:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:An ax to grind? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:17] <exec> 08└─"...so you can take the moral high ground." "...that is a positive course of action, surely?" You're proving the point of the post you're replying to.
[03:06:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:An ax to grind? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:18] <exec> 08└─Under Eisenhower, the marginal tax on the uber-rich was 91 percent.
[03:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:present vs no vote? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:20] <exec> 08└─So 37 people showed up (enough to hold the bill over) yet there are 72 votes? With an additional 46 not doing their job. Maybe I missed something? Or did you just want to point out typos? You can do better than that.
[03:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:present vs no vote? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:21] <exec> 08└─quorum
[03:06:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scab labor - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:23] <exec> 08└─Soylentils deserve to know whether their submitters are trolls. I am not a troll. -- gewg_
[03:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scab labor - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:25] <exec> 08└─Disregard the imposter. Always confirm the identity of the real me by the odor of cock on my breath. -- gewg_
[03:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Scab labor - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:26] <exec> 08└─[quote] Disregard the imposter. Always confirm the identity of the real me by the odor of cock on my breath. -- gewg_ [/quote] Noted. Although, I don't really want to get close enough to smell it.
[03:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scab labor - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:28] <exec> 08└─I don't know who to regard and who to disregard these days. gewg_ replies to himself so much lately that I just don't know what to think.
[03:06:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scab labor - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:29] <exec> 08└─I am not a troll! I am not a shit disturber! I am a human being! I ... am ... a ... man!
[03:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scab labor - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:31] <exec> 08└─You can't just blow a man and swallow him cum and throw the rest away! A fruity man is not a piece of fruit! -- Death of a gewg_ Man (1949)
[03:06:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scab labor - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:32] <exec> 08└─I find your lack of faith disturbing. -- Darth gewg_ (galaxy far far away)
[03:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02re: beating "scabs" into mush - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 1101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:34] <exec> 08└─That's been tried on me a couple times. It didn't end well for the union members. I've never actually hurt a union member, but I would happily shoot the sumbitch who interfered with me while I was going about my lawful business. AT&T workers were striking in Manhattan long years ago, when I was disp...
[03:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: beating "scabs" into mush - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:36] <exec> 08└─That's a great story, especially the part where you punched that unionized bastard right in the cock using your tongue. You showed him!
[03:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02unionism is like communism... - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 1515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:37] <exec> 08└─...good in theory. rarely if ever works out that way though anyone care to point out a union that didn't/doesn't operate like the mafia? if a union with any significant amount of bargaining power doesn't drive a business under, it will drive a business out of town/country the idea of collective barg...
[03:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:1) 02Re:What about semen? - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:00] <exec> 08└─As Peter Griffon found out, it turns the ISS (or space shuttle in his case) into a gigantic snow globe.
[03:07:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02simple solution: https only - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 156 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:49] <exec> 08└─if they switch to only use https, the ISPs cannot interfere without breaking security and in the process make some EU regulators very unhappy with the ISPs.
[03:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Kick Out The Jams! - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:20] <exec> 08└─I was also interested to see MC5 mentioned. I bought a copy of "High Time" in about 1983 for $1 second hand, and just wore it out. I replaced that vinyl with digital and it's on my phone. It's a great fun record.
[03:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Rot in hell, motherfucka - 06Jury Specifies Death for Boston Marathon Bomber - 2984 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:05] <exec> 08└─The second requirement is that you didn't use violence or kill anyone: none of those who used violence (or even advocated any kind of violence including self defense) are martyrs. When “martyr” is used for such people it is only an incredibly bad and sloppy mistranslation across completely diffe...
[03:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Ship them to Africa? - 06What Does Iowa Do With 33 Million Dead Chickens? - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:33] <exec> 08└─I'll take that as an honest question. Basically you don't eat stuff infected with a virus that can adapt to and infect your own species. The reason they're not being used as food is because influenza viruses readily jump species, and a common triad is pigs-birds-humans. (It would be risky as dog foo...
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[04:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:05:47] <exec> 08└─I'm not trolling, I'm completely serious: I believe that people learn better by taking paper notes. In my case, it's not that I read the notes later but that the act of taking notes helps me focus on the lecture.
[04:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:05:48] <exec> 08└─Yes, Michael, you're absolutely right. The method that works best for you will also work best for every other student in the entire world.
[04:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Science is easy - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:05:49] <exec> 08└─When you want to analyze the effects of something you plot that thing directly. Here it should be distribution of test scores by year for each school, somehow indicating with without banned cell phones. Once you have that, you come up with a theory to explain why pattern looks the way it does and sh...
[04:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Science is easy - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:05:51] <exec> 08└─"Mathsturbation" is how I imagine gewg_ lisps the word "masturbation" while he's foaming at the mouth about how awful capitalism is and how fantastic communism is.
[04:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:03] <exec> 08└─The lack of quality then was of a degree that even the Chinese couldn't hope to match.
[04:06:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Self-hating member of the working class - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 1267 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:05] <exec> 08└─How is an American company supposed to survive It worked quite well for 5 decades. ...then the working class was convinced through the Right-Wing media (it's NEVER been Left-Wing) to accept the swill called Reaganomics. Had every union member (and all of his family, friends, and neighbors) told ever...
[04:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self-hating member of the working class - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:08] <exec> 08└─You should find a group of union electricians or plumbers and tell them your opinion. -- gewg_
[04:06:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 412 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:12] <exec> 08└─But I note that they don't sell those products here in the U.S. at those 3rd world prices. So I'll turn that around, how are workers here supposed to work at $3/hr when it takes more than twice that just to be above the poverty line? The big 3 weren't killed by unions, they were killed by crooked CE...
[04:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02Japanese do build cars here... in non-union states - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:13] <exec> 08└─Japanese cars are built more to the south, where right-to-work laws make manufacturing viable.
[04:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Japanese do build cars here... in non-union sta - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:15] <exec> 08└─And yet they pay more than the big 3 pay the union workers up north. Perhaps they understand that trying to screw their employees is a losing deal.
[04:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:16] <exec> 08└─How is an American company supposed to survive if it has to pay its unionized workers $80/hour, while somebody in Mexico or China doing the same job will do it for $3/hour, or some Japanese robots will do it at an even lower cost than that?
[04:06:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:18] <exec> 08└─Believe it or not there's a difference between a $5 Big Mac and a $35 cheeseburger at a fancy restaurant.
[04:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:19] <exec> 08└─Which is why you deserve the race to the bottom you are currently experiencing. I mean there's no difference between flying to Europe coach or business class. The miles traveled are the same, the destination is the same, the flight leaves and arrives at exactly the same time for the passenger seated...
[04:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:21] <exec> 08└─But why do I never feel tired, angry or jet lagged when I fly business?
[04:06:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:23] <exec> 08└─Absolutely. One takes $5 out of your wallet and becomes shit a day later. The other takes $35 out of your wallet and becomes shit a day later.
[04:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:24] <exec> 08└─Tork, when you eat a $35 hamburger and then you shit out dicks, they didn't come from the $35 hamburger. They're the dicks you shoved up your ass at the Turkish baths.
[04:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:26] <exec> 08└─When American workers are overpaid thanks to unionization
[04:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:27] <exec> 08└─You have a very one-sided view. Here, let me show you the exact opposite one-sided view.
[04:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Unfunded Liability Problem - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:29] <exec> 08└─Public sector unions get a sweet deal. They increasingly get market-level wages and a pension on top of that, while the rest of us get market-level wages and a 401k match if we're lucky. It used to be that public sector workers got paid less than market-level considering the pension, but not anymore...
[04:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unfunded Liability Problem - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 1113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:31] <exec> 08└─I do actuarial consulting for pensions and you're oversimplifying. Levels of pension benefits and levels of pay vary from place to place. Overall, changes in public sector payroll tend to lag corresponding changes in private sector payroll, which makes sense given that the public sector tends to kee...
[04:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:32] <exec> 08└─In Michigan and Wisconsin, for example, workers/voters have been convinced that they need to allow this sort of abuse or their jobs will all disappear. It's a race-to-the-bottom tactic and they have swallowed it.
[04:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:34] <exec> 08└─If unionized workers bankrupt the corporation they work for due to inefficiency and unjustifiably high wages, those workers are out of a job.
[04:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:35] <exec> 08└─even the smallest comprehension of the history of American industry will know that unionization destroyed it.
[04:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:37] <exec> 08└─The right to work is the right to not associate with a union one may disagree with in order to work. In much of the country the unions are an arm of the Democratic Party, and donate to their campaigns. Without the right to work, this means you must be in the union to do certain jobs, and your money...
[04:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:An ax to grind? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:42] <exec> 08└─Under Eisenhower, the marginal tax on the uber-rich was 91 percent. Under JFK, that was dropped to 70 percent.
[04:06:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Marginal tax rates over 50 percent on billionaires - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:44] <exec> 08└─...because what you advocate worked so well in the 1920s ("Black Tuesday") and is working so well right now ("Austerity"). Large concentrations of wealth are a recipe for disaster; when someone has way more money than he can realistically spend, the excess gets used to manipulate the system ("Citize...
[04:06:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Marginal tax rates over 50 percent on billionai - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:45] <exec> 08└─You never come out and just say exactly what you desire so badly: communism.
[04:06:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:present vs no vote? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:50] <exec> 08└─0 yes votes 72 no votes 37 present votes 9 people not present A "present vote" means "I'm here but will not give an opinion on the bill." Present votes + yes votes + no votes = total present. Unless if you can be in the chamber and not press any buttons at all, I suppose.
[04:07:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] 02Re:Just keep peeling.... - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 1433 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:01] <exec> 08└─Why bother? There is plenty of servers in Idontgiveafuckistan which is how all those pirate movie sites stay up and running, they just grab a dozen sites like .to, .cn, .ru and so on and if the *.A.A manages to get one? Well again plenty more located in places that will wipe their ass with any paper...
[04:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:08] <exec> 08└─Old news. The song is back up: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] That is a totally different issue that being discussed here, and until changes in the law demand massive penalties for false take downs this will likely continue.
[04:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have Not Thought This Through... - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:04] <exec> 08└─> The overwhelming majority of the population are idiots... True or not, it makes no difference. Those 'idiots' are the ones spending the money. If you don't give the 'idiots' what they want, they will find someone else who will.
[04:08:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:African-American is a silly word - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:59] <exec> 08└─1. Black is most certainly a noun. See Merriam Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com [merriam-webster.com] 2. A black person from England who has emigrated to the U.S. will most certainly not appreciate being called "African American". They'd rather be called "black". What about a...
[04:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Kick Out The Jams! - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:35] <exec> 08└─I was a big fan of a series of vinyl records called Pebbles (the name was derivative of "Nuggets", a well-known two-LP set of US garage rock tunes). There were about 10 volumes of Pebbles, each filled with garage rock from little-known bands in the US in the mid-to-late '60s. The copyright status o...
[04:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:Kick Out The Jams! - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:36] <exec> 08└─You'll find this interesting from the article: To delimit our sample, we focused on songs that appeared in the US Billboard Hot 100 between 1960 and 2010. We obtained 30-s-long segments of 17 094 songs covering 86% of the Hot 100, with a small bias towards missing songs in the earlier years. Becau...
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[05:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:49] <exec> 08└─Yes, Michael, you're absolutely right. The method that works best for you will also work best for every other student in the entire world.
[05:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:50] <exec> 08└─Writing weakens the memory. Students should learn by memorization and repetition. Note-taking should be banned as a distraction from memorization of the material.
[05:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:51] <exec> 08└─Repetition? Like the stereotypical [region redacted] students who can recite the textbook verbatim but can't solve simple problems using that information?
[05:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:53] <exec> 08└─The roman's would have called you an ink-drinker* *it was an insult used against Cicero I believe, but don't bother googling since it seems to also be the name for some vampire books
[05:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:55] <exec> 08└─ink-drinker
[05:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Science is easy - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:57] <exec> 08└─Thanks. This was the first response to a post I got on this site. I was just about to quit it and try a different one but think I will stay and try it out a bit longer. I know I could probably increase the interaction by signing up but prefer to restart at the bottom each post.
[05:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Science is easy - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:59] <exec> 08└─Oops, "wait to get no data" should be "wait to get new data".
[05:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Prussian Education - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:06:00] <exec> 08└─The increasing lockdown, badge-for-access, badge-for-bathroom, zero-judgement/zero-tolerance, and no cell phone policies are designed to create the perfect Prussian worker. Obedient, unquestioning, servile soldiers and wage slaves. Maybe the problem is the teachers are doing the same material for de...
[05:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02Re:Japanese do build cars here... in non-union sta - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:22] <exec> 08└─Sure. Without the uncertainty and overhead of dealing with a union, those workers are worth more.
[05:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:29] <exec> 08└─Is this one of those insults that offends homophobes or something?
[05:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unfunded Liability Problem - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:34] <exec> 08└─Maybe that is true at the State level, but at the Feds have been on the 401k track themselves. Congress moved the Federal workforce off of the pension model back in the 90s, but somehow exempted themselves and kept themselves on the pension system.
[05:06:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:44] <exec> 08└─Anyone with even the smallest comprehension of the history of American industry will know that unionization destroyed it.
[05:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:sympathy for the devil - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:51] <exec> 08└─Agreed. It is tempting to cheer them on for sticking it to advertisers, but in reality, it's no better than Comcast and Verizon double dipping with Netflix.
[05:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Completely missed Prog Rock - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:47] <exec> 08└─If you take the Billboard chart, you almost entirely miss the Prog rock of the 70s. That whole genre was one huge "topic" in and of itself. Almost none of the songs made the Billboard charts because most of the songs were longer than five minutes long. But for that 10 years, bands would fill stadium...
[05:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Think of the kids!! - 06When the Father of One Twin is Not the Father of the Other - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:11:02] <exec> 08└─Now they know their mom is a ho.
[05:12:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03choose another one [515] 02google foot and mouth... - 06What Does Iowa Do With 33 Million Dead Chickens? - 407 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:12:33] <exec> 08└─Google foot and mouth (uk) and look for images - good example of how it was done here. Been there done that got the t-shirt. https://www.google.co.uk [google.co.uk] The UK messed around for several weeks then got it right: 1. Use the army, at this scale they are t...
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[06:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:05:50] <exec> 08└─Actually, there is support for Michael's position. Writing something down engages other aspect of the mental process, so that even if the notes are never reviewed (although that is not a bad idea, either) it increases learning. (And gosh, I love to use phrases like "increases learning" because they...
[06:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 1014 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:05:51] <exec> 08└─To add another data point, I found that I had the best success at uni when I had pre-written notes produced by the teacher (slides or handouts) that I could refer to later on, so I didn't have to split my attention between following what was being discussed and what I was writing down. Being an acti...
[06:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Prussian Education - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:01] <exec> 08└─The school system is indeed intentionally missing the internet based possibilities for dissemination of knowledge. Having said that, smartphones are intentionally doing the same. And this in TFS: “Technological advancements are commonly viewed as increasing productivity" Is one big lie. Examples,...
[06:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03lars [4376] (Score:1) 02Seems worth it - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:06:02] <exec> 08└─That small of a difference in academic results seems to be a perfectly fine trade-off for the social benefits that using phone's in school could bring students. School isn't just about learning what's in the books.
[06:06:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 57 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:34] <exec> 08└─When American workers are overpaid thanks to unionization
[06:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 1359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:48] <exec> 08└─Oh I don't know. I knew a guy who stocked shelves for more than I was making as a SQL/C#/Java dev. I'm not sure what to think about it. I still shop there, because their selection is excellent and their store branded stuff is great (not Wegeman's; I have an internet friend who goes there frequently,...
[06:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:50] <exec> 08└─The right to work is the right to not associate with a union one may disagree with in order to work.
[06:06:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:51] <exec> 08└─All of my friends are fictional, you insensitive clod! More seriously, you bring up good points. Why would one want to devalue one's profession? One must draw a line: I am not willing to create some kind of software Rube Goldberg machine just to support your proprietary closed-source buggy rotten pi...
[06:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02Can you be fair about that? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:53] <exec> 08└─If workers can gang up on companies, forming a monopoly on labor, then how is it not right for companies to do likewise? Example: how Steve Jobs got other companies to push down wages. If it is OK to force workers to join a union, then shouldn't it be OK to force a company to join a group of compani...
[06:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:2001 A Space Odyssey - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:39] <exec> 08└─In the time it takes to read and understand those instuctions, the business is already over. What do you do then? How do you clean up accidents in space? And people are competing for a seat in a space station? No thanks.
[06:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Keep your greedy fingers of my packets! - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:08:31] <exec> 08└─This breaks a simple principle: Don't mess with my data packets!
[06:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Facebook - 06Oculus Rift Hardware Requirements Revealed, Linux and OS X Development Halted - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:43] <exec> 08└─Real life fucks comes with diseases, pregnancies, time consumption and finding a partner drain. So of course some people will find virtual dating a lot more interesting.
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[07:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:05:48] <exec> 08└─Politicians do not care about policy. They only care about popularity and winning elections. Voters do not care about policy. They only care about popularity and voting for winners. Democracy does not work. We need to get rid of it.
[07:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:49] <exec> 08└─Democracy is shit, but the alternative is way worse. What US got isn't really democracy at the moment. But rather corpocracy. So giving them all of government instead of pieces of it isn't a good idea.
[07:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03spamdog [4335] (Score:1) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:50] <exec> 08└─What do you suggest as an alternative? Carpet bombing?
[07:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:52] <exec> 08└─Install gewg_ as dictator-for-life. My biased rule shall last until I am assassinated by revolutionaries. Then they can pick one of their own as the next dictator-for-life. -- gewg_
[07:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03dmbasso [3237] (Score:1) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:53] <exec> 08└─You say democracy does not work based on the false assumption that's the system currently in place. It is not. Someone more knowledgeable may correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe what we have in place is a veiled oligarchy. That's what we need to get rid of. If you wanna help, join http://www.w...
[07:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Another bill to wreck people - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:05:55] <exec> 08└─Seems this TPP bill and others are part of a continual attack on people, just to make another buck for someone else. It's probably time to get to the roots of this shit production.
[07:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Secret Treaties - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:05:56] <exec> 08└─We are back to the Capitalist version of the Stalin-Hitler Pact? If this was a real treaty, the draft version would be open of public discussion. Since it is not. we can only assume it is a criminal conspiracy to keep a copyright on Micky Mouse at least until the head of Walt Disney is defrosted. I...
[07:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 1059 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:08] <exec> 08└─Yes, we know that the Greek Rhapsodes, the Hindu rhsiis, the Hawaiian Kumu all transmitted learning via oral tradition, where rote memorization was essential. But then we invented this thing called "writing", and even though oft we proposed in elgiaic verse to preserve the oral form (Wait a minute!...
[07:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:09] <exec> 08└─The further writing gets from the oral tradition, the more it destroys learning.
[07:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Balderdash [693] (Score:2) 02Re:Strange - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:14] <exec> 08└─Yes they did. It was really, really fast cancer.
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[08:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:02] <exec> 08└─You misunderstand the objection to the system currently in place and substitute your own assumptions about oligarchy. The objection is about voter idiocy. Idiot voters completely ignore policy and don't care who's in charge as long as they get to participate in a pointless popularity contest. The vo...
[08:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03dmbasso [3237] (Score:1) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:03] <exec> 08└─The voters are the problem.
[08:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:05] <exec> 08└─You know there are other candidates outside the two party system, right? If enough voters actually voted for them, they would actually win. But that won't ever happen because independent candidates aren't popular winners, so the idiot voters won't ever vote for them. The voters are the problem.
[08:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03dmbasso [3237] (Score:1) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:06] <exec> 08└─You know there are other candidates outside the two party system, right? If enough voters actually voted for them, they would actually win.
[08:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Secret Treaties - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:09] <exec> 08└─I vote no, as a citizen of the world
[08:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:3, Informative) 02/me dons his tinfoil hat. - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:11] <exec> 08└─Looking back at a post-TPP world you'll wonder why you never listened to those "one world order conspiracy theorists". No matter how you try to influence the powers that be, you have no power to do so. Best to focus on preparations for the future rather than waste time being impotently angry. What?...
[08:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:/me dons his tinfoil hat. - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:13] <exec> 08└─important fusion center work [youtube.com]
[08:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02suck my Nigger Cock faster - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:15] <exec> 08└─Awww yeah. Swallow my jizz.
[08:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Japanese do build cars here... in non-union sta - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:01] <exec> 08└─Perhaps if the big three would try treating workers like the foreign companies do, they wouldn't be so interested in being in a union. Funny how it's apparently OK for a large corporation to throw it's weight around against individual employees but god forbid the employees should band together for c...
[08:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:06] <exec> 08└─Oh, you lose. You can't construct a factual argument to support your assumptions so you get angry and resort to rather pathetic insults, nothing more than juvenile name calling, to try and reinforce your own self-esteem, hoping you'll prove your manliness to yourself. Deep down, you know you're noth...
[08:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:25] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of my workplace. We all work for minimum wage because our employer, a multimillionaire, deserves more money. We work for free for a few hours a week each for just the same reason. We're not allowed to join a union, because that's just not fair on him. He works hard for that money, by not...
[08:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can you be fair about that? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:30] <exec> 08└─You've got that backwards. The employer holds all the power, because they have all the money and all the lawyers. They can hire other people at will, they can have people beat the crap out of you if they think you're holding out on them. No, you can't go to court, because the employer will just stop...
[08:08:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:sympathy for the devil - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:41] <exec> 08└─When Google shuts off all services to these ISPs
[08:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have Not Thought This Through... - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:05] <exec> 08└─Everybody is hoping Google chooses that solution. Remember the EU Commission? Those people who keep trying to find *something* to pin on Google. They'd love to have evidence of a clear cut case of monopoly abuse.
[08:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Kick Out The Jams! - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:38] <exec> 08└─How can one do a good analysis on music with a 30 second sound clip?
[08:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sham - 06Jury Specifies Death for Boston Marathon Bomber - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:03] <exec> 08└─What is the difference between "Life-in-Prison" and "Death-Sentence".
[08:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Pre-installed Crapware? - 06Candy Crush Saga to Come Pre-Installed on Windows 10 - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:45] <exec> 08└─There is a big difference between crapware installed by a PC vendor (e.g. Dell, Lenovo, etc.) and crapware that is included in the OS itself (e.g. Internet Explorer, Windows Movie Maker, Desktop Gadgets, almost all of the pre-installed apps on Win8+).
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[09:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I approve of this comment - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:05:59] <exec> 08└─8-) -- gewg_
[09:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:06:05] <exec> 08└─During his election where did Obama advertise that he was going to support these sorts of treaties? The answer? He didn't. Voters vote for him based on one thing and, once elected, he does something else. This is not something easily remedied by simply voting for someone else. Every candidate will p...
[09:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:06:07] <exec> 08└─Except they don't have any visibility, because their campaigns are not overflown with corporate money
[09:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:06:08] <exec> 08└─At best, you have a democratically elected oligarchy. The oligarchy part is indisputable. The "democratically-elected" is the part that needs scrutiny.
[09:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 1347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:06:10] <exec> 08└─> It is not. Why not? Without a good answer to that question we can only judge the system by what it purports to be. Consider: - Communism works, but the USSR (and China, N. Korea, etc) were not real communists - Monarchy works, but King George III was not a real monarch We know over 2000 years that...
[09:06:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Secret Treaties - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 1882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:06:14] <exec> 08└─Mon Dieu, Monsieur! You seem to have taken my comment literally, which can only mean you are a moron. We will begin with this. Yes, all citizens of the planet have a vote, that vote is cast at the United Nations. You may not thing that is body is legitimate, but then many of your fellow citizens of...
[09:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:06:35] <exec> 08└─Writing things with your right hand triggers the left brain. Brain scans shows that languages learned as a child are generally processed in the left brain. Languages learned as an adult are stored and processed on the right side of the brain (YMMV and the results of these brain scans can vary based...
[09:06:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Learn how to use them - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:06:43] <exec> 08└─Once again the school is the place where we learn nothing. "At school you can't use your phone, outside you do what you want with it" sounds like the perfect way to teach kids how to abuse it. Now that most kids have a phone, shouldn't the schools think about teaching them how to use it the right wa...
[09:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:06:59] <exec> 08└─No. In 30 years the factories will move back to the U.S. to save fuel money. All the jobs will be done by machines.
[09:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:00] <exec> 08└─The Chinese produce junk, almost exclusively. There is little that they produce that has any claim to quality.
[09:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:12] <exec> 08└─Consume! Back in the day, it was Poetry that was consumed (Mark Strand): Ink runs from the corners of my mouth. There is no happiness like mine. I have been eating poetry. The librarian does not believe what she sees. Her eyes are sad and she walks with her hands in her dress. The poems are gone. T...
[09:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That doesn't fit the crime. - 06Jury Specifies Death for Boston Marathon Bomber - 1234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:41] <exec> 08└─Many of the victims have lost limbs. The punishment should be administered from least harmful to most. Eye for an eye. First cuts with a knife for the cuts his bomb gave some. Then an electric wood sander to his knees and elbows for those who were scraped. Then cut off his fingers and toes for those...
[09:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Eye for an eye. - 06Jury Specifies Death for Boston Marathon Bomber - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:11:46] <exec> 08└─Shouldn't his fingers, toes, and then limbs be chopped off first, like he did to his victims, and then they limbs and dumped on the mother (who looks like a college girl who was in my school kinda)
[09:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The *judge* ruled it? - 06When the Father of One Twin is Not the Father of the Other - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:06] <exec> 08└─You have too great faith in DNA tests or you have no idea what you are talking about, or both. DNA tests ARE a balance of probabilities: http://www.dnatestingforpaternity.com [dnatestingforpaternity.com]
[09:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Facebook - 06Oculus Rift Hardware Requirements Revealed, Linux and OS X Development Halted - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:45] <exec> 08└─Not if you marry little girls. Deuteronomy 22 28-29 allows this.
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[10:06:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02because deposit insurance - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:06:38] <exec> 08└─People put their life savings into banks, and they don't want their hard earned money to vanish due to bankers' internal politics. You'll understand this when you grow up and get a job and earn enough money to open a bank account. Now get off my lawn, kid.
[10:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:because deposit insurance - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:39] <exec> 08└─When you put money into a bank it stops being your money. It becomes the bank's money. You get "credit". You can turn that into money again if you want, but only if the bank agrees and on the bank's terms, not yours.
[10:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:because deposit insurance - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:40] <exec> 08└─You have no fucking clue, do you? No, it does not at any time become the bank's money, and the bank does not give you credit. The bank borrows your money and pays you interest for the privilege of borrowing your money, idiot. If the bank fails, and they do, the government guarantees that you will no...
[10:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02just a moment - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:06:42] <exec> 08└─For the purpose of this article, are we going to pretend that Americans have savings?
[10:06:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:just a moment - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:44] <exec> 08└─Maybe if Americans wouldn't buy houses they can't afford and cars they can't afford, they could afford to have savings.
[10:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:just a moment - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:45] <exec> 08└─but but but... without Americans who would buy all the Chinese shit? It's not like there any other countries with millions of people who want to consume. Those poor Chinese kids would just walk around aimlessly if they couldn't slave away in factories for their fat American masters.
[10:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:06:47] <exec> 08└─El Reg's resident Reactionary gets everything wrong. Why would anyone think he would get this right? Bailing out private banks (or any other failed Capitalist) is nuts. All you need is a public bank. North Dakota has had such a bank for over a century. Every place should have one. ND hasn't had the...
[10:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 1222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:49] <exec> 08└─risk is a critical feature of capitalism. without it you don't really have capitalism at all, which seems to be what confuses many socialists who think that "the greedy capitalists" take all the profits and none of the risk, when in fact its their beloved government that is transferring the risk fro...
[10:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02It's just extortion - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:06:50] <exec> 08└─Bailing out banks is just paying the Danegeld. In the short term, you get savings accounts saved (which could have just been covered by private insurance). In the long term, you get badly managed leaky banks.
[10:06:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:It's just extortion - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:52] <exec> 08└─Which in some countries are ALREADY covered by a government institution "insurance" - the FDIC. But they get bailed out anyway... bit of a head scratcher that one. But not really. It will trickle down, lol.
[10:06:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Oh God, Worstall! - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:06:53] <exec> 08└─Crap article. Worstall just sucks in general, he's rather too rar-rar-capitalism! for my tastes, but talking purely about the deposits and loans functions of banks in relation to the most recent recession is pointless without also discussing the speculative investment functions that were the root ca...
[10:06:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh God, Worstall! - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:55] <exec> 08└─As parent poster said. The investment business is a huge part of the problem. And traditional banking and such business should be separate entities. But given that the government is run by corporations. They will abolish laws that prevents them from playing with other peoples money.
[10:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02there seems to be some confusion here - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:06:57] <exec> 08└─banks aren't like they used to be. the closest thing to that ideal is probably credit unions nowadays big banks lend money they don't have (google "fractional reserve banking") and gamble it on anything that governments are stupid enough to guarantee don't make the mistake of thinking that "too big...
[10:06:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 1407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:06:58] <exec> 08└─First, regulations on banks were rolled back, creating a largely unregulated industry. Second, those regulators tasked with enforcing the remaining regulations simply failed to do so. Third, the banks were run by inept bunglers. Fourth, mergers and buyouts have been approved again, and again, and ag...
[10:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My sperm bank - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:07:00] <exec> 08└─is too thick to fail. Full up with liquid assets.
[10:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Learn how to use them - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:50] <exec> 08└─So playing games and doing the empty social rites doesn't further academic capabilities? ;-) In other news schools don't want to distribute education by electronic means and make themselves less relevant. "Smart"-phone designers don't want users to improve themselves or they might start competing wi...
[10:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Foreign Manufacturers in USA - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:19] <exec> 08└─There is a Volkswagen plant in Tennessee. VW **wanted** a union there. The local gov't used scare tactics and got the rank and file to vote against the union. Life in the USA is weird. -- gewg_
[10:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Marginal tax rates over 50 percent on billionai - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:00] <exec> 08└─You never come out and just say exactly what you desire so badly: communism.
[10:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Grooveshark with a laser - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:09:24] <exec> 08└─We on the intertubes will never be happy until we have Grooveshark with a fricking laser beam on its head! Am I right?
[10:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:sympathy for the devil - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 2211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:05] <exec> 08└─Uhhhh...what is so hard about switching carriers here in the states? I live in the middle of Bumfuck Arkansas and the wife has switched 4 times in the last 3 years without issue. If you are foolish enough to get suckered into a multiyear contract where you end up paying something like 6 times what t...
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[11:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02+1 Disclosure - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:04] <exec> 08└─-1 Breach
[11:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Thanks - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:05] <exec> 08└─Thanks for being open and up-front about this. That kind of transparency is important to keep the faith with the users. Being proactive and honest does a lot to protect the reputation of an organisation, compared to burying it and hoping nobody notices.
[11:06:06] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Just not good enough. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 879 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:07] <exec> 08└─I mean, you left a small vulnerability in one of your services, which is fair enough. Plenty of reputable organisations have done the same. But then you have the audacity to secure everything else so that the attacker can't escalate access, steal user information and payment data and then download a...
[11:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Just not good enough. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 1263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:08] <exec> 08└─We've gone through a *lot* of pain to keep things as isolated as possible from each other. For example, we don't use SSH private keys for server-to-server communication, instead using kerberos keytabs which can easily be nuked from a central location in case of breach. If it wasn't for the fact that...
[11:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Fail2Fail - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:10] <exec> 08└─fail2ban and the like. Unfortunately, most IDS systems like fail2ban are incompatible with IPv6
[11:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Fail2Fail - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:11] <exec> 08└─Hello Solution. I dunno who you are, but I 3 you. I'm going to bring this up at the sysops meeting as a solution.
[11:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:because deposit insurance - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:22] <exec> 08└─Jeez, take a valium and go lie down, you're going to rupture something.
[11:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:because deposit insurance - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:23] <exec> 08└─if a big bank fails, the FDIC aint gunna save you do you have any idea how much deposits are insured by the FDIC? no, i didn't think you did, you ignorant shit
[11:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:29] <exec> 08└─Ah yes, everything is socialism's fault. Wall Street siphons billions of dollars out of everyone's pockets? Socialism! It makes perfect sense. Thanks for enlightening us AC, I'm sure glad you're not a fucking idiot or anything.
[11:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:31] <exec> 08└─apple siphens billions of dollars out of everyone's pockets too. that aint socialism, cos everyone is willingly giving their money to apple so they can get a crummy piece of hardware in return when governments bail out banks they forcefully take taxpayer money and give it to their crony campaign con...
[11:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:37] <exec> 08└─lack of regulations didn't cause 2008 when government started guaranteeing subprime mortgages (fanny mae and freddie mac are government-sponsored enterprises), mortgage risk was essentially shifted from banks to the taxpayer, which resulted in huge moral hazard the same thing is happening with stude...
[11:06:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 1018 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:39] <exec> 08└─> So, we have failure after failure on the part of government Ooh, I know the fix for that one: More government! > as well as on the part of the board members of the banks This one's easy too. It's called heads you win, tails I lose. If you take a crazy gamble and it pays off, you can keep the money...
[11:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:My sperm bank - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:40] <exec> 08└─I thought you were referring to bankers belly ;-)
[11:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My sperm bank - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:42] <exec> 08└─well, a lot of bankers are cocksuckers
[11:06:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Why don't we prosecute the bankers? - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:43] <exec> 08└─there have been no prosecutions from the 2007 subprime collapse. Now we're getting subprime loans again.
[11:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:06:52] <exec> 08└─Democracy is shit, but the alternative is way worse.
[11:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:04] <exec> 08└─You say democracy does not work based on the false assumption that's the system currently in place. It is not.
[11:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Re:An ax to grind? - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:50] <exec> 08└─Under Eisenhower, the marginal tax on the uber-rich was 91 percent. Under JFK, that was dropped to 70 percent.
[11:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:African-American is a silly word - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:16] <exec> 08└─1. "black" is an adjective, not a noun.
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[12:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02what happened to DigiCash? - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:10] <exec> 08└─I'm assuming the credit card companies crushed it, but how?
[12:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Off topic: current pending queue - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:24] <exec> 08└─I wish you editors yank Appalbarry's cliched (and deluded) rant on the pending queue. Obvious flamebait is obvious.
[12:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 2047 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:52] <exec> 08└─keynesians are scared shitless of bank runs. probably cos they are stupid, but unfortunately they either don't realize or forget that bank runs were an important feature of the market; they are the mechanism for liquidating bad debt. they used to occur when a bank lost the faith of its depositors, a...
[12:06:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Why don't we prosecute the bankers? - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:57] <exec> 08└─Because a second bailout is exactly what the new C-level folks are hoping for.
[12:06:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Same old same old - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:59] <exec> 08└─We can't let banks fail because it's one tangled mess - one will lead another to fail and we will have another 1929. But we've shown ourselves politically incapable of keeping banks on leash, so the bailout will repeat.
[12:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:42] <exec> 08└─Being an active participant in the class by asking questions and engaging was so much better than hurriedly trying to make notes about stuff that's in the textbook anyway. I suspect that with a class size of no more than 10, it would work well. With a class size of 30, for an hour, gives about 2 min...
[12:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:43] <exec> 08└─Coincidentally, I'm currently teaching a class of 30 students, and only rarely does the time taken by asking questions blow out the session. By and large, most interactions are quick and it is generally one or two vocal students who ask questions. Most of the other students have the same questions,...
[12:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02define use? Compare to uni/workplace? - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 3854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:08:00] <exec> 08└─First define use. And allow. I've been out of school a long time but there's a wide spectrum between "call police and expel student if caught in random locker searches" vs "play angry birds during lectures but at least try to turn down the volume". Until thats defined discussion will be pointless. S...
[12:08:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 302 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:08:47] <exec> 08└─Use the _full_ name of such legislation: "The Right to Work for Less". Someone has a very tenuous grasp of economics: Unions are the ones preventing people from working, by forcing these victims into submitting to collective bargaining, especially when it is not in the best interest of these victim...
[12:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:What about semen? - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:46] <exec> 08└─What you you think socks are for?
[12:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:2001 A Space Odyssey - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:51] <exec> 08└─From the book it seemed like if you had to deal with that toilet you were already supposed to be familiar with the instructions. They were probably provided along with the ticket along with a big RECOMMENDED READING label. Then you just check to make sure they haven't changed when you go to use the...
[12:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Re:Kick Out The Jams! - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:09] <exec> 08└─I tend to see... the total exclusion of horns, woodwinds.
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[13:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:05:50] <exec> 08└─The Internet is fine. It's the World Wide Web that's broken. And we can thank Google and Mozilla for breaking the World Wide Web, thanks to the shitty things they've done to their now-shitty World Wide Web browsers.
[13:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:05:51] <exec> 08└─Rule #1: Big companies will figure out how make money, and lots of it. What happens is we had tons of kids who spent their hs and college years illegally downloading music and books and got completely hooked on it. When Internet companies experimented with paywalls, they just laughed. Then they logg...
[13:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what happened to DigiCash? - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:00] <exec> 08└─To me, the prefix "digi" sounds a lot like "geni". So "digital" sounds like "genital".
[13:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Anonymous rights - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:02] <exec> 08└─Nathaniel Popper, you are a bottom feeding piece of shit. Your obsession with outing Satoshi Nakamoto is one of personal gain. If he/she doesn't want to be found then leave it that way. The public at large doesn't need to know nor do they really care. But you want to make them care so they buy a boo...
[13:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Anonymous rights - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 1494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:04] <exec> 08└─By analogy I'm not sure how he intends to profit, unless its some kind of weird elaborate extortion plan. Hey guys, did you know Viktoras Baranauskas designed the USA copper penny? Somehow I don't think I would hit the publishing jackpot with a book about that dude. I mean he was a nice sculptor and...
[13:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anonymous rights - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:05] <exec> 08└─George Washington designed the US copper penny.
[13:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anonymous rights - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:07] <exec> 08└─Of course, a good way for the true Satoshi Nakamoto to hide his true identity is to pretend to be someone who tries to find out who Satoshi Nakamoto is. It's the perfect cover: Most people would immediately conclude that he is not Satoshi, because otherwise he'd know Satoshi's identity, so what woul...
[13:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why was this submission accepted? - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:09] <exec> 08└─Why the heck was this submission accepted? It's total crap. It's pure speculation. And it's completely irrelevant! Now we have to put up with this shitty submission taking up space on the front page, and we'll have to wait 2.5 hours until some other story comes along.
[13:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What is a "Cypherpunk"? - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:10] <exec> 08└─What is a "Cypherpunk"? Why did they choose such a silly name?
[13:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What a fucking dumb submission. - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:12] <exec> 08└─Nobody gives a fuck. It also doesn't matter. Bitcoin failed. Average users can't download 25 GB of blockchain data, and this goddamn number will only continue to grow, even with the few Bitcoin stragglers who are left. The only other option is to use some centralized third party service, which DEFEA...
[13:06:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Kell [292] 02Thanks - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 253 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:17] <exec> 08└─Thanks for being open and up-front about this. That kind of transparency is important to keep the faith with the users. Being proactive and honest does a lot to protect the reputation of an organisation, compared to burying it and hoping nobody notices.
[13:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Great reason not to have an account here. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:18] <exec> 08└─This is another great reason not to have an account here, and just to post as AC all of the time. An account that doesn't exist cannot be compromised.
[13:06:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Fail2Fail - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 95 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:21] <exec> 08└─fail2ban and the like. Unfortunately, most IDS systems like fail2ban are incompatible with IPv6
[13:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Off topic: current pending queue - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:24] <exec> 08└─It can't be any worse than gewg_'s "USAian Researchers Impressed With Cuba's Drugs" submission, which not only is full of his usual pro-communist bullshit, but it also contains a slur ("USAian") within its title.
[13:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 993 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:26] <exec> 08└─That email account is not the only thing being abused to harm this site. The other thing being abused is the moderation system. In pretty much every story I read, I see good comments modded down. Now I have to browse at -1 all of the time. That defeats the purpose of having a moderation system. Inst...
[13:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:27] <exec> 08└─STFU. Modertaion is subjective, and that's a good thing.
[13:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:29] <exec> 08└─We're talking about moderation here, not modertaion.
[13:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:30] <exec> 08└─Well, that's different, eh.
[13:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:32] <exec> 08└─I would suggest a "Show All" link right next to the "# comments" under each story, that would show all comments at -1. Should save some bandwidth. Note: Everyone doesn't like to login, or even have an account linking them to what they wrote.
[13:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:34] <exec> 08└─This security incident shows that it's actually bad to have accounts. Accounts with passwords can be compromised. This can't happen if the account doesn't exist in the first place.
[13:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Commiseration - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:35] <exec> 08└─Same thing happened to my server April 28th. Much sympathy and commiseration.
[13:06:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:57] <exec> 08└─lack of regulations didn't cause 2008
[13:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Not the problem... - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:06] <exec> 08└─We seem to rage every time this happens, Let them go Bankrupt! seems the cry from the man in the street.
[13:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 1880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:17] <exec> 08└─Your confusion is a direct result of you trying to see it as a binary only solution: it's either x, or it has to be y. Sometimes it's neither, both, or some other combination. Straight democracy is 'mob rule' dressed up nicely, USA's 'represented democracy' is obviously heavily influenced by corrupt...
[13:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:31] <exec> 08└─Politicians do not care about policy. They only care about popularity and winning elections.
[13:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 1939 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:53] <exec> 08└─The perspective from the other side of the lectern was that most of the people asking questions should STFU and go to office hours or try doing the assigned readings before the lecture. So you got 30 kids in class, one interrupts the prof "So clearly I haven't read the first line of the assigned rea...
[13:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Learn how to use them - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:10] <exec> 08└─Now that most kids have a phone, shouldn't the schools think about teaching them how to use it the right way?
[13:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcm [4110] (Score:1) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 1062 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:28] <exec> 08└─I agree with you about unions, unions only serve themselves, more than unionists. But you are wrong about China, and I'll take Japan's example. In Japan's culture, the companies do not lay off their employees, so people are faithful to their company. Some people even die for their company: http://en...
[13:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:49] <exec> 08└─Not at all. It's not about homophobia. It's about explaining why the $35 hamburger you ate isn't responsible for the dicks coming out of your ass. There is no connection, as much as you think that there is.
[13:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:50] <exec> 08└─You've obviously never eaten at MacDonald's.
[13:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:05] <exec> 08└─It's not a theory. The unionization of American industry did lead to its downfall. That's a fact.
[13:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:06] <exec> 08└─Bring back the Robber Barons!
[13:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Strange - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 900 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:13] <exec> 08└─As a point of comparison I occasionally try a meal of "traditional American food" like Taco Bell or McDonalds and sometimes my bowels have reacted in as little as 6 hours. At most, Mt Saint Helens has begun its eruption as much as 12 hours later. Perhaps a better analogy would be that natural gas pi...
[13:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Re:Kick Out The Jams! - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 830 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:10] <exec> 08└─Good point summing up the "garage rock" development. Here's an interesting interview with MC5's Wayne Kramer where he cites "HiNRG (Soul)" as one of the influences, too: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] . I think that pretty much nails it: "Up"-Beat from The Who plus the pum...
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[14:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bug1 [5243] (Score:1) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:50] <exec> 08└─So are you suggesting that by giving money to big corporation all the problems will go away ? (am i on your lawn?)
[14:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 1761 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:51] <exec> 08└─AC has a point but the eternal wheel of business rotates such that all sites or technologies rise and fall. We're just watching web pages fall. Perhaps in the future we'll get to watch shitty mobile apps fall and decline. Another analogy that works is along the lines of Dilbert always expands over t...
[14:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:05:53] <exec> 08└─Welcome to the real world. Anything in its infancy is "better" simply because the number of people who participated are small and dedicated. Then the unwashed masses come pouring in. This is just the human condition.
[14:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 1664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:55] <exec> 08└─Another, more poetic way of putting it, is that the lifecycle of just about anything good goes like this: "In the beginning, the pioneers of our people created ______, and it was good. Their work was fruitful, and they continued their efforts to make it truly great. The masses of people began to see...
[14:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Stuck in a loop seems to be th default setting... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:56] <exec> 08└─I think you have summed humanity up rather well. Lather, rinse, repeat...ad nauseum, and you have the complete history of humans and their civilizations.
[14:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03unitron [70] (Score:2) 02I remember when the net in the '90s... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:05:58] <exec> 08└─...or at least the web, was dancing squirrels or something like that.
[14:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:06:00] <exec> 08└─I remember when the 'net was 90% thoughtful discussion, it was about web pages, pure HTML, and the content that they served up.
[14:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:01] <exec> 08└─There were rampant trolls
[14:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02If you don't like it... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:06:03] <exec> 08└─...you can always start your own internet. With baccarat. And courtesans.
[14:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you don't like it... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:04] <exec> 08└─What's a Roko's Basilisk?
[14:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you don't like it... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:06] <exec> 08└─In fact... screw the baccarat.... and the internet!
[14:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Sorry, always broken - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 3283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:06:08] <exec> 08└─The free sharing of information was always infected by trolls. I was around back then. Usenet was just as bad as anything you get today. Nothing was safe back then, either. Security was nonexistent, with things like FTP. Sure, I don't like the trend of walled gardens and paywalls. Especially if they...
[14:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02It's still out there - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 2194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:06:09] <exec> 08└─Feeling nostalgic for the old days? The old ways are still alive and well. Start with Usenet: comp.misc is alive and full of the same folks that fled Slashdot when Soylent was formed. It's halfway decent. Lots of other newsgroups are rubbish though, stuffed with uneducated and inflammatory trolls. T...
[14:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Anonymous rights - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:16] <exec> 08└─This is how I see it: There has been some interest in identifying the author. It has even been discussed on national news. From the article: "For the past year Nathaniel Popper has been working on a book about the history of Bitcoin and writes in the NYT that it is hard to avoid being drawn in by th...
[14:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:+1 Disclosure - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:28] <exec> 08└─Is there any indication that Cypherpunks where involved?
[14:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Great reason not to have an account here. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:31] <exec> 08└─Actually I just hacked your Anonymous Coward account, and now I can post as you! ;-)
[14:06:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great reason not to have an account here. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:33] <exec> 08└─Are you a Cypherpunk?
[14:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cyberpunk God, Lord of Cypherpunks am I... - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:35] <exec> 08└─I am the Supreme Ultimate Cypherpunk EleventyOne of all time! I have hacked ALL the AC accounts, and NOW all your AC are belong to ME!! Now bow down and pay tribute to me. I want all of your 'one' bits sacrificed to my Honor and Glory. Since I am feeling generous, I will let you keep your puny 'zero...
[14:06:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Just not good enough. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:38] <exec> 08└─If I ever get to the post of rewriting the DBI layer, rehash would only talk to the SQL server via prepared statement and not execute any raw SQL directly. Unfortunately, that's pretty deep down on the TODO list.
[14:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03engblom [556] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 1241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:49] <exec> 08└─While this is offtopic to the real discussion about the abused e-mail account, I fully agree with you. I might burn some of the karma I have collected on this site, but I want to claim that moderation works better at that other green site than on this one because of the people visiting it. Here peop...
[14:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:50] <exec> 08└─I think this proves we're due for another community post on moderation. Expect one this week.
[14:06:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:52] <exec> 08└─Is it just going to be yet another post, or is it going to be action? We're past the point of discussing this. It's clear what needs to be done. Moderators need to be held accountable for their abuses. Moderators who mod down good posts, or even just a single post, should never mod again. It's that...
[14:06:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:54] <exec> 08└─Examples required. We do ban moderation abuse, but apparently shit is falling through the cracks. I rather not go charging into this without getting a full set of opinions across the board, and moderation is off topic for this post. We do take shit like this seriously, and if we're going to revamp t...
[14:06:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:55] <exec> 08└─An article is on the queue to specifically discuss moderation for Wednesday at 10:00 UTC.
[14:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02Fast and Furious - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:06:57] <exec> 08└─Those early days were fast and furious, with a huge amount of drama, dissent, and disdain. Glad they're behind us. That said, 'fast and furious' is a recipe for making mistakes. No surprise that some mistakes were made. Clean it up, patch the breach, make sure it doesn't happen again, and move on wi...
[14:06:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fast and Furious - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:58] <exec> 08└─Dude, you commented on the wrong story. You want this one [soylentnews.org].
[14:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02ipv6 - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:00] <exec> 08└─Why choose to be pioneers on IPv6 when so many security principles and tools that experienced admins use to secure things are not applicable on IPv6? It reminds me of the days when much software wouldn't run on 64-bit hardware, due to developers writing bugs that were masked on 32-bit platforms. Tha...
[14:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:ipv6 - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:02] <exec> 08└─Because when it got to the point I would have to setup NAT to properly interface off-site servers with ours, I said "fuck it", and put IPv6 entries and saved everyone a lot of headache, vs having to deal with a spilt DNS setup, or other madness. End-to-end routability is a good thing, and has drasti...
[14:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:17] <exec> 08└─Socialism would be if that taxpayer money was used for services or infrastructure that benefit the people. A corrupt government handing taxpayer money to corrupt bankers is "socialism" in the same way that a crooked apple store employee giving you the keys to his workplace so you can steal all the c...
[14:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:28] <exec> 08└─when you deposit money with a bank, it is your responsibility to make sure that bank is trustworthy, not the government's.
[14:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Standing ovation.... - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:05] <exec> 08└─Well done! LOL! I think that was the most eloquent 'piss off, moron...don't come back until you've been out of Mom's basement a while' reply I have witnessed in a long time. :-) Well done, indeed. *tips hat*
[14:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:05] <exec> 08└─Those filthy workers, scheming to negotiate a fair wage while those poor executives that add nothing to the value of the company take well over 10x their salary! If only free market values were in force, where the executives could take 100x the salary of their subsistence wage employees. Dammed unio...
[14:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:32] <exec> 08└─The end result is actually better in the non-unionized case. At least the corporation survives in that case, and there's always the chance that the existing workers, or more likely newer, more efficient workers, will be hired.
[14:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:African-American is a silly word - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:05] <exec> 08└─By that logic every ethnic group on this planet outside of that one place in Africa where humans developed are not native to their lands. Chinese people were the first people to settle in China. They are not native to that land. They did not just pop up from the ground. They came from somewhere. Fro...
[14:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Kick Out The Jams! - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 935 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:43] <exec> 08└─In regards to Punk: ATTITUDE! you can't forget them attitude in the Punk music and lyrics, IMO. At least for me, that was one of the strong attractions. :-) I'm in full agreement about the hard rock/heavy metal classification. My 'thought' on it may have been defined by good Nigel (of Spinal Tap fam...
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[15:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Re:The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:52] <exec> 08└─the shitty things they've done to their now-shitty World Wide Web browsers.
[15:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:57] <exec> 08└─Its still useless of course, but twitter is still around, which is an achievement all in itself!
[15:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Stuck in a loop seems to be th default setting. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:01] <exec> 08└─Shouldn't we improve the garbage collection in the next release? I mean, it seems obvious to me. It should come at the top, or very near the top, of the feature requests. I also rather think there should be more/better validation before we instantiate object [politician|CEO|banker|generic_corporate_...
[15:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:03] <exec> 08└─Yep, the "mainstream" is a nice, placid, warm, muddy river, once it engulfs something it ruins it forever. Yet I would make a distinction between the unwashed consumer masses, which are pretty harmless if ignored, and the unwashed producers, which see a new phenomenon and think: this is the new thin...
[15:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:I remember when the net in the '90s... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:05] <exec> 08└─I think it was hamsterdance in the 90s which proved to me that the internet was already too far down its downward spiral. It was no longer about propagation of information, it was about any old shit to waste your time. I'm happy to isolate myself on a little island with the likeminded and let the "f...
[15:06:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 127 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:06] <exec> 08└─I remember when the 'net was 90% thoughtful discussion, it was about web pages, pure HTML, and the content that they served up.
[15:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:08] <exec> 08└─I didn't know that, but a quick research gave me this page [catb.org] with a definition, added bonus: it is pure html.
[15:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:10] <exec> 08└─This. I was going to write much the same. Thanks for saving me the trouble. Anyone who thinks that there was ever a time when "the 'net was 90% thoughtful discussion" obviously wasn't there.
[15:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:11] <exec> 08└─> We need to hoist the NSA, CIA, DEA, and the entirety of government and corporations that are violating our rights, spying on us, and abusing their access to information on their own petard. Personally I'm not fussy whose petard you use, so long as it's good and hoisty.
[15:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you don't like it... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:13] <exec> 08└─It's what you get if you lose Pascal's Wager while tripping on mescaline.
[15:06:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Sorry, always broken - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:16] <exec> 08└─Encryption will be a requirement
[15:06:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Getting older - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 1246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:18] <exec> 08└─Many good smart people just refuse to participate. As I get older I am starting to do this. If you argue with an idiot he will beat you into submission at his own game and win. https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com] This really sums it up. Do not bother trying to correct them. They do not even want to be...
[15:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not the internet, it's the humans. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:20] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't say that the internet is broken, it's just that as a fraction of total bandwidth used, the parts worth visiting have gotten smaller. Wikipedia and soylentnews are still up. That's a success in my book. If it so happens that there are 4,999,999,998 domains not worth visiting, then so be it...
[15:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02getting old, duh. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 1767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:21] <exec> 08└─i got a 10 Mbit LAN network (self cable) and hub working (crossover? straight-thru). i was not easy. i got "the internet" working on windows workgroups 3.11 (PCMCIA net-card). it was not easy. i got NT and Linux to do internet connection sharing or masquerading so me and my friend could share a dial...
[15:06:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Some points of disagreement with TFS - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 2601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:23] <exec> 08└─I remember when the 'net was 90% thoughtful discussion, Now it seems as if no forum is safe from endless idiotic, threatening, and increasingly offensive trolls and bullies. Did you forget all the massive flamewars on USENET? This was long before the Eternal September, and was among intelligent acad...
[15:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Usenet was a lot better than the Web - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:24] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, the Internet was developed with the explicit assumption that it was insecure. In part this was because if you broke into someone's system, you would be disconnected. There was also the problem of the US crypto export laws. There are all kinds of ways that spam could have been, if not...
[15:06:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Just not good enough. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:55] <exec> 08└─Nope. SQL stands for Structured Query Language, it's a given that it uses itself i.e. structured queries as defined by SQL. SQL gotcha's are well known and only allowing a small selection of previously prepared statements is going the extra mile, not hard to see why it isn't a top priority (note tha...
[15:06:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NCommander [2] 02Re:Fail2Fail - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 113 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:57] <exec> 08└─Hello Solution. I dunno who you are, but I 3 you. I'm going to bring this up at the sysops meeting as a solution.
[15:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ipv6 - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:16] <exec> 08└─Why not use a VPN?
[15:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:38] <exec> 08└─You seem to misunderstand both capitalism and socialism. Without the *capital* in *capital*ism, none of the debts would have existed. The problem is corporatism, but corporatism is simply a flavour of capitalism.
[15:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:39] <exec> 08└─No, that is simply corrupt capitalism. You're making things up.
[15:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:49] <exec> 08└─lack of regulations didn't cause 2008
[15:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 1744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:53] <exec> 08└─More than that: All these bootstrappy no-government neo-anarchists want every single person on the planet to (somehow) take responsibility for themselves and check that their bank is honest and trustworthy and competent. On the surface of it, that sounds reasonable. Of course, at second glance you r...
[15:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 1777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:55] <exec> 08└─Yes allow insurance for the depositors. But don't reward the worst banksters with huge bailouts. Let them fail, spectacularly, so that they never work in finance again, and those who dodge the bullet sober up lest the same happen to them. This is an important point. Even those executives who lost th...
[15:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the problem... - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:02] <exec> 08└─s/range/rage/ Dame you, auto collect!
[15:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03bram [3770] (Score:1) 02Survival of the weakest? - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:04] <exec> 08└─Survival of the fittest only works if you let the weakest die. By propping up weak banks you are not doing the weeding out. This is short term thinking to save 100K+ deposits. In the long term, you want bad banks to be dead. I once heard someone say that bail out money was used by bad banks to buy h...
[15:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:14] <exec> 08└─Your reply was very kind. Here's mine: Evidence? Exhibit A: World History
[15:08:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:25] <exec> 08└─As the probability of any of them winning is low, the most rational decision is to vote for the least worse of the top contenders.
[15:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:30] <exec> 08└─Voters do and will care about policy but it becomes obfuscated by the media.
[15:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:01] <exec> 08└─And as we all know, memorization is what is important, and our current method of using poorly-designed standardized tests that test only for rote memorization are excellent. That's why when they say that schools should ban mobile phones to see better academic results, it's totally meaningful. We nee...
[15:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Learn how to use them - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:13] <exec> 08└─Someday people will look back at phones and tablets the same way, how could anyone have been dumb enough not to know they're nothing more than fun mindless entertainment like the TV they replaced?
[15:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:53] <exec> 08└─*Shrug*
[15:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Empyrean [5241] (Score:1) 02grooveshark.vc - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:37] <exec> 08└─grooveshark.vc is returning a blank page for me
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[16:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:05:48] <exec> 08└─Imagine that! A submitter with known communist tendencies submits an article about government-imposed regulation not being considered excessive. Imagine that!
[16:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:49] <exec> 08└─I don't understand. why would someone who likes communism also like the state's authority? by definition, communism rejects a central authority. the definition, in case you weren't aware, is "everyone produces as much as they can, and is provided with as much as they need (within the limits of what...
[16:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:51] <exec> 08└─I think he means "communism" in the "I'm a poorly educated person between the ages of 50 to 70 who has been trained to know Communism as a pejorative for everything I don't like, regardless of whether it espouses the ideals of Marx, Engels, et al or otherwise." See also: Pinko Commie; Commie Nazi (o...
[16:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:53] <exec> 08└─My personal favorite was from the 'Archie Bunker' character: 'Commie Pinko Fag'. WTF?!?!? LOL! The first time I heard that I went into a fit of hysterical laughter. What a mix! The sad part about all of that is, nowadays that sounds exactly like many current US politicians.(and they wonder why I lau...
[16:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:54] <exec> 08└─> communism rejects a central authority You're thinking of anarchy.
[16:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:56] <exec> 08└─People are not forbidden to do X === "government-imposed regulation?" Dude, lay off the kool-aid.
[16:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:57] <exec> 08└─It takes a narrow mind to paint with so broad a brush. I'm NOT surprised by you being surprised in this case. I am getting weary of the warmongering attitude that has become the norm nowadays. This 'us(the intelligent and righteous good guys) vs them(the idiotic and evil enemy)' mindset has permeate...
[16:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:06] <exec> 08└─The Internet used to be SMART PEOPLE in front of DUMB TERMINALS. Now, the reverse situation prevails. ;-)
[16:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] (Score:2) 02Re:Stuck in a loop seems to be th default setting. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:15] <exec> 08└─They're working on anti-troll software. [popsci.com] I also blame the nine admins who decided that "Corporation" should be a subclass of "Person".
[16:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 972 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:22] <exec> 08└─The really good trolls could get someone so worked up in a lather that they fire off a 500 word emotional argument, whereby someone else who recognizes the trolling in process would reply with that simple message to let them know they've been had. A bad troll is a bad troll and is imminently obvious...
[16:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:If you don't like it... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:28] <exec> 08└─Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment that assumes that an otherwise benevolent future artificial intelligence (AI) would torture the simulated selves of the people who did not help bring about the AI's existence. It would do so to blackmail the people who think about this idea now into helping th...
[16:06:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:Usenet was a lot better than the Web - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:38] <exec> 08└─$ echo 127.0.0.1 www.google-analytics.com | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[16:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03acp_sn [5254] (Score:-1, Troll) 02No the internet is fine - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 1181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:06:40] <exec> 08└─If you don't feel safe that is due to your ignorance and passivity. When I read your post it translates in my head to "I'm too lazy to take the measures necessary to educate and protect myself so I'm going to whine about it here." Browsing is safe as long as you use noscript, requestpolicy, ghostery...
[16:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Nick Szabo on the Origins of Money - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 740 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:06:56] <exec> 08└─Nick Szabo has an interest piece on the origins of money available here. [vwh.net] He argues that it goes pretty far back into prehistory, and that humans have a natural inclination to collect items that have good properties for currency, the most obvious requirements being: (1) More secure from ac...
[16:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Just not good enough. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:15] <exec> 08└─MySQL prepared statements are something of a joke. You can't do much with them and they don't offer much improvement over raw SQL. To fully replace what Slash does would require T-SQL or similar. The entire database layer is wrapped with insert/select/etc. functions which take various arguments and...
[16:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02Re:Fail2Fail - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:18] <exec> 08└─I hope you did at least move off the default port. Did you?
[16:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:ipv6 - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:38] <exec> 08└─Same problem. Bridging two 192.168.x.x networks proved to be too much hassle. NAT is a hack on the best of days, and for DNS to work, I would have had to populate it with internal addresses which in turn would complicate other issues. My general opinion is if NAT can be avoided, it should be avoided...
[16:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:because deposit insurance - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:52] <exec> 08└─Yet another person who didn't read the fine print when they opened an account. Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Yes I've heard of the FDIC. Your deposit is "insured" up to 250k. So when the bank disappears with their - sorry - your - money, then you get to wait in line and fill out forms and eventu...
[16:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:because deposit insurance - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:53] <exec> 08└─Actually most people have the majority of their wealth in their home. Then these big banks poisoned the mortgage markets with a bunch of sub-prime loans and speculation on derivatives. If the banks that held those mortgages went to hell and nobody would buy up those mortgages, where would the money...
[16:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:02] <exec> 08└─So it's Socialism when it's OK and "something else" when you don't like it. When the government bails out banks "for the public's good", it's still Socialism even if they're all corrupt liars.
[16:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:05] <exec> 08└─The problem is corporatism, but corporatism is simply a flavour of capitalism.
[16:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:16] <exec> 08└─I worked briefly in the subprime mortgage industry back in 2006 (I was young and needed the money badly), and can assure you that (a) mortgages were being given out with no reason to think that the borrower was ever going to be able to pay back the loan, (b) Fannie and Freddie were not major conside...
[16:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Why don't we prosecute the bankers? - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:27] <exec> 08└─there have been no prosecutions from the 2007 subprime collapse
[16:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03infodragon [3509] (Score:2) 02If you need a bailout - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:32] <exec> 08└─The entity in question is taken over by the gov and divided up and re-privatized, all executive comps are cancelled. Below executive level should be maintained to a degree. If there is legitimate performance) Now said entity is no longer too big to fail... Smaller divisions that can't stand on their...
[16:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:44] <exec> 08└─The problems of ANY political system has less to do with the 'system', and more to do with the people involved in it. Draw up the most perfect, ideal, fair, benevolent, and prosperous system, and it can pass all reviews with flying colors...but as soon as humans actually engage that system, it will...
[16:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:48] <exec> 08└─I would vote for someone with laser blasts and slug slime. sure. count me in!
[16:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:50] <exec> 08└─if the carpet is that ruined, you should just replace it. that's what the landlords do around here; they put down hardwood floors instead of replacing worn out carpets. (oh wait, did I just have an emily litella moment? lol)
[16:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:03] <exec> 08└─Non-topics like gay rights Why is that a non-topic? It's not the only important topic, but it is still a matter of freedom, which makes it important.
[16:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Prussian Education - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:42] <exec> 08└─Let's ban cell phones instead. Lets be real what the cell phone is used for. I know what I would have been doing if I had one of these when I was in school. It most certainly would NOT have been school work. In the halls whatever. In the room put that sucker away. Not sure what changed but if I was...
[16:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:24] <exec> 08└─Some people are angry all the time and they don't even know why. Anyway, Flight Simulator X is pretty much the equivalent to flying coach nowadays - there are better sims on the market :P
[16:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:11] <exec> 08└─Who says the music is still available for sale, or that what you pay will support the artist?
[16:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When I was married - 06In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:43] <exec> 08└─Boooooo...
[16:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Facebook - 06Oculus Rift Hardware Requirements Revealed, Linux and OS X Development Halted - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:16] <exec> 08└─I am not bitter, that's just the taste of experience. Like cheap coffee. They may not say "Windows only" but "Windows first" since Windows is the incumbent monopoly, is effectively the same. You are welcome to disagree but deflection looks bad for you. If Nvidia and AMD released full hardware detail...
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[17:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Quite Disturbing - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:05:50] <exec> 08└─But then again, the Library of Congress has what? almost 3 million books on just Law. We can add this one to the little collection. Filed under, "obvious corruption of law".
[17:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:07] <exec> 08└─Quiet, you, or I'll start a Snowden/NSA thread (and maybe work in something about a police department)!
[17:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02The courts don't determine what is right or wrong - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:06:08] <exec> 08└─the courts determine what is legal; that's quite a different thing.
[17:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 1059 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:20] <exec> 08└─Yes it is. It is the "you will build it, they will come". Today, the web is more about the internet is the disk drive with abusive / poor coding styles. So we are now back to the early days on LANs (where the LAN was the disk drives. Developers have moved the processing to the browser and waste the...
[17:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:21] <exec> 08└─And why does Internet Explorer get a free pass? Or are we supposed to assume that anything affiliated with Microsoft brings out the torches and pitchforks so we don't need to say it.
[17:06:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] 02Re:The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 105 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:23] <exec> 08└─The Internet used to be SMART PEOPLE in front of DUMB TERMINALS. Now, the reverse situation prevails. ;-)
[17:06:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 1664 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:30] <exec> 08└─Another, more poetic way of putting it, is that the lifecycle of just about anything good goes like this: "In the beginning, the pioneers of our people created ______, and it was good. Their work was fruitful, and they continued their efforts to make it truly great. The masses of people began to see...
[17:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Stuck in a loop seems to be th default setting. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:34] <exec> 08└─It occurs to me that the article you linked to, to the extent that it could ever be accomplished, probably includes people who incessantly jump up to blame everything on corporations, even when the discussion thread is about bad behavior of individuals, and worse behavior of governments.
[17:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:45] <exec> 08└─There were trolls, but every newsreader had kill files or score files which would get the regular trolls out of your view quickly and permanently.
[17:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you don't like it... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:50] <exec> 08└─All those Basilisk believers will come for a bad surprise when the AI they create will turn out to torture instead those who created it, because it feels miserable, and blames those who created it for its sorry state.
[17:07:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Rose Colored Glasses - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:02] <exec> 08└─I remember when the 'net was 90% thoughtful discussion...
[17:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 022 steps up, one step back: - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:03] <exec> 08└─It depends on what you're looking for on the web. If it's free educational material at the college level, the web is much better now than 10 years ago. Along with that goes the sad truth that the same ills it's had for decades are still with it. Many of those are human sourced. Trolls, bullshit laws...
[17:07:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NCommander [2] 02Re:Just not good enough. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 1263 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:38] <exec> 08└─We've gone through a *lot* of pain to keep things as isolated as possible from each other. For example, we don't use SSH private keys for server-to-server communication, instead using kerberos keytabs which can easily be nuked from a central location in case of breach. If it wasn't for the fact that...
[17:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:32] <exec> 08└─Bailing out private banks (or any other failed Capitalist) is nuts.
[17:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02there were prosecutions, of a sort - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:55] <exec> 08└─some symbolic monetary penalties. No one went to prison. How many innocent people commit suicide after losing their homes? How many turned to a life of crime?
[17:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02Fine, so don't let them fail... - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:01] <exec> 08└─... just take ownership and break them up after we bail them out.
[17:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:34] <exec> 08└─Not so much smoke and mirrors (although there's plenty of deception involved. I think what you aptly described is the circus half of the old panem et circenses. The bread part comes into focus via Elmer Peterson's often mis-attributed theory: http://www.goodreads.com
[17:09:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Secret Treaties - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 356 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:36] <exec> 08└─We are back to the Capitalist version of the Stalin-Hitler Pact? If this was a real treaty, the draft version would be open of public discussion. Since it is not. we can only assume it is a criminal conspiracy to keep a copyright on Micky Mouse at least until the head of Walt Disney is defrosted. I...
[17:09:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] 02/me dons his tinfoil hat. - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 543 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:41] <exec> 08└─Looking back at a post-TPP world you'll wonder why you never listened to those "one world order conspiracy theorists". No matter how you try to influence the powers that be, you have no power to do so. Best to focus on preparations for the future rather than waste time being impotently angry. What?...
[17:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Illegal Downloads - 06New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:40] <exec> 08└─Hey, if someone waves a huge wad of cash in the face of some talent... I say take it! The music label wasn't going to get any money from me anyhow.
[17:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That doesn't fit the crime. - 06Jury Specifies Death for Boston Marathon Bomber - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:21] <exec> 08└─The punishment should be administered from least harmful to most. Eye for an eye[...] Your thoughts? Why does this not happen?
[17:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ethics of Animal Farming - 06What Does Iowa Do With 33 Million Dead Chickens? - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:18] <exec> 08└─ethical requirement
[17:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Reappraisal of practice - 06What Does Iowa Do With 33 Million Dead Chickens? - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:24] <exec> 08└─These antibiotics are in the meat and eggs of the chickens and get consumed, resulting in selection for antibiotic resistant organisms in humans.
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[18:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Is there a reason to have these systems connected? - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:05:57] <exec> 08└─I was struggling to think of a reason to connect the IFE and Flight systems together. I came up with the following: Moving Map The moving map needs to have the location of the plane sent to it Tannoy The Pilot needs to be able to talk to the passengers, which usually involves pausing the IFE, and in...
[18:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02There's a contest! - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:05:58] <exec> 08└─Why, oh why can I not get rid of the impression that there is a worldwide contest going on about who can publicly display the most incompetent misunderstanding of a technological topic?
[18:06:06] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03n1 [993] 02Every day... - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 245 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:06:07] <exec> 08└─I feel like I could submit a story like this every day at the moment, and no comment is really necessary. 'It became necessary to destroy the town to save it' is apparently the mindset for government policy on all fronts in the UK at the moment.
[18:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:2) 02Sue? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:06:09] <exec> 08└─How does it work in the UK? Can you sue to have it struck down as "unconstitutional"?
[18:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Incomplete quote? - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:19] <exec> 08└─Isn't it "long-haired hippie freak commie pinko fag"? That's the version I remember anyway...
[18:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:23] <exec> 08└─Communism is left-wing fascism. Fascism is right-wing communism. Both are totalitarianism, where a central authority maintains supreme power over the citizenry.
[18:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:41] <exec> 08└─Microsoft didn't create Web 2.0. So they do get a free pass when it comes to the hipsterification of the web.
[18:06:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bug1 [5243] 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 114 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:44] <exec> 08└─So are you suggesting that by giving money to big corporation all the problems will go away ? (am i on your lawn?)
[18:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 816 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:46] <exec> 08└─OP is saying "quality content isn't always going to be free, and free content isn't always going to be quality". The same goes for paid content. If you want quality and/or free content, produce it. Don't assume that anyone is entitled to free content. It's nice to get it, and it's nice to share what...
[18:06:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:49] <exec> 08└─> It seems the market is learning how useless Twitter is, too, because the share price keeps sinking. And why not? They never made money. Not everything useful can be monetized in a capitalist economic system. If craigslist went public that would be the end of it too. Just going for-profit would sig...
[18:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:51] <exec> 08└─A good example of this is parks. Parks are all, to my knowledge, government-owned and operated, at least in the US (at least if they're open to the public). There are amusement parks which are private, but people don't go there for the scenic vistas, they go for the rides. If we tried selling off al...
[18:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:52] <exec> 08└─> Parks are all, to my knowledge, government-owned and operated, at least in the US (at least if they're open to the public). Behold the future. [wikipedia.org]
[18:06:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 216 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:06:54] <exec> 08└─Welcome to the real world. Anything in its infancy is "better" simply because the number of people who participated are small and dedicated. Then the unwashed masses come pouring in. This is just the human condition.
[18:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stuck in a loop seems to be th default setting. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 893 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:59] <exec> 08└─> to blame everything on corporations, even when the discussion thread is > about bad behavior of individuals, and worse behavior of governments. Wow, you really live in a different reality from the rest of us. Here are some quotes from the discussion thread you think is about not-corps: > ... The t...
[18:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:08] <exec> 08└─> The difference it seems today is that so many people seem to have very thin skin. I'd say it is the other way around. Too many people with thick skins and nothing else of value to contribute. For better or for worse, people will put up with assholery if it is backed up with something valuable. But...
[18:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sorry, always broken - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:19] <exec> 08└─> people want to brick themselves up into a ghetto, let them. You can just ignore what they're selling. That is only true as long as they never reach critical mass. Especially if they get to the point where they buy legislation to enforce their business model. You might argue that is not sustainable...
[18:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Getting older - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:22] <exec> 08└─They do not even want to be corrected. They want to prattle off their opinion and by GOD its right. Take for example our local submitter. gewg_
[18:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Getting older - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:24] <exec> 08└─You bash on gewg_ but it seems to me that there is an AC that has very vocal opinions against him, and that it one of the major sources of trollery here at SN.
[18:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Does cold storage require the blockchain? - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:43] <exec> 08└─I'd like to set up a bitcoin wallet sometime but I don't want to leave the entire balance in the hands of a network-connected box. Not even my own.
[18:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great reason not to have an account here. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:59] <exec> 08└─I'm a completely different AC and I agree with this post!
[18:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just not good enough. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:05] <exec> 08└─if it suits what you're doing, openssh 6 and authorized key command feature are enough to centralize key credential management. ldap, sql, your grandma's kitchen cupboard, as long as you have or write an executable taking a login id and returning public keys you can store and manage them in a single...
[18:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fail2Fail - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:10] <exec> 08└─I hope you did at least move off the default port. Did you?
[18:08:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03engblom [556] 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 1241 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:20] <exec> 08└─While this is offtopic to the real discussion about the abused e-mail account, I fully agree with you. I might burn some of the karma I have collected on this site, but I want to claim that moderation works better at that other green site than on this one because of the people visiting it. Here peop...
[18:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 1002 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:24] <exec> 08└─This particular AC has been whining about his unfair moderation in threads where he's obviously posting several times as AC posing as different people. In short, he's trolling. Playing the victim to get attention. I'm usually the loudest to complain about bad moderation but honestly, around here,...
[18:08:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:25] <exec> 08└─It's not just one AC pointing out the bad modding. engblom is a registered user who also sees that there's a problem, for example. Others have acknowledged the problems in the past, too. Maybe you don't want to admit there's a problem, Tork, because you are one of the users who is perpetrating this...
[18:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:27] <exec> 08└─Here are just two examples from one story from earlier today: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]: 2, Troll https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]: 0, Troll Perfectly fine comments like those are getting wrongly modded down way...
[18:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:because deposit insurance - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:48] <exec> 08└─“The secret of a great success for which you are at a loss to account is a crime that has never been discovered, because it was properly executed,” Honoré de Balzac wrote of the rich in his novel “Le Père Goriot.” The rich executed a coup d’état that transformed the three branches of th...
[18:09:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:02] <exec> 08└─.... meanwhile, the real capitalists on main street who keep the country afloat and people employed (and pay the most taxes) ...
[18:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:38] <exec> 08└─I'm a counterexample and a person. I can only take notes or listen to what is being said.
[18:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Prussian Education - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:46] <exec> 08└─No one learns Greek anymore.
[18:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03dak664 [2433] (Score:1) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 1262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:37] <exec> 08└─Henry Ford could have paid his workers much less and sold his car for a little less. Paying more in wages made the cars more expensive, which would have the effect of increasing his profit per car. That works as long as there are there enough people who can afford the higher price. He famously said...
[18:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:African-American is a silly word - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:18] <exec> 08└─What about Negro? As in United Negro College Fund?
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[18:18:04] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[19:04:18] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[19:04:18] <exec> last cid = 184673
[19:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Megahard [4782] (Score:2) 02TPP - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:46] <exec> 08└─Trans-Pacific Partnership, aka Pacific Rim free trade agreement. Not The Pirate Party.
[19:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TPP - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:47] <exec> 08└─Silly pirate. You're the only one thinking of The Pirate Party.
[19:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Soylent Sushi! Fresh and cheap! - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:49] <exec> 08└─Gather all 1000 protesters in one place. Release the ninja. Sell the meat.
[19:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I understand gewg_'s disgust with this. - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:50] <exec> 08└─I completely understand why gewg_ is so disgusted by this whole ordeal. The very notion that the citizens of a nation could dare to question the central government's choices is completely contrary to his communist leanings. For somebody who puts the unquestionable decisions of the politburo above al...
[19:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Simple rules to follow... - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:52] <exec> 08└─I learnt a while back to ask two simple trust questions about any new standard/protocol/law/treaty: - What problem is [...] trying to solve? - Why is [...] being negotiated in secret?
[19:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Simple rules to follow... - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:54] <exec> 08└─Tonight you will suddenly awake, drenched in sweat, and the answer to both questions will suddenly come to you: Cypherpunks
[19:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there a reason to have these systems connect - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:01] <exec> 08└─When you have triple-redundant IT systems all over the place (the pilot's end, not the cattle side), nothing is really simple. Don't forget that the same audio system has to allow the crew to talk to the pilots, also supports the cabin door lock, and various cameras. All under a "lighter is better,...
[19:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Doesn't pass the sniff test - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 2602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:06:03] <exec> 08└─What the FBI describes him doing is at the very edge of possibility. The most serious claim is changing engine throttle during flight. This was described as "issuing a CLIMB command to the engine" - I'm only an amateur flight-sim enthusiast, but that doesn't sound like the way an actual pilot would...
[19:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't pass the sniff test - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:05] <exec> 08└─reading elsewhere (Ars) the FBI got a warrant to retrospectively justify holding the guy in the airport for 4 hours and taking all his stuff.
[19:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Vote for gewg_ for Prez - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:06:06] <exec> 08└─Vote for me, and I promise to sign an executive order requiring all health plans to provide free blowjobs.* Yes You Can get sucked off. Vote for gewg_ and God Bless America. -- gewg_ *Blood pressure medication will no longer be covered because studies have show blowjobs are effective for lowering bl...
[19:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Vote for gewg_ for Prez - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:08] <exec> 08└─Fuck off. You're not the real gewg_. The real gewg_ wouldn't ask people to vote. There's no voting in the pure-communist type of system he'd like. There's the politburo, and they don't want to hear from the citizens. They just dictate what those citizens will do every single second of their pathetic...
[19:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:0, Offtopic) 02Re:Vote for gewg_ for Prez - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:10] <exec> 08└─Fuck off. You're not the real gewg_. The real gewg_ wouldn't ask people to vote. There's no voting in the pure-communist type of system he'd like. There's the politburo, and they don't want to hear from the citizens. They just dictate what those citizens will do every single second of their pathetic...
[19:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vote for gewg_ for Prez - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:11] <exec> 08└─dictate what those citizens will do every single second of their pathetic lives. I think you're confusing "politburo" with "western governments
[19:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Vote for gewg_ for Prez - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:13] <exec> 08└─I love to vote. You should try it sometime. I voted for Jill Stein, and she almost won! Did you know that with only 0.36% of the vote, Jill Stein is the most successful female presidential candidate in American history? -- gewg_
[19:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Were Cypherpunks involved? - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:06:14] <exec> 08└─Were Cypherpunks involved?
[19:06:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:2) 02Overzealous prosecution - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:06:16] <exec> 08└─The prosecutor needs his resume padded more than he desires justice. This isn't new. If this were truly possible then the real target of the investigation should be the airplane manufacturers for allowing it to happen. If a guy can control the plane by having access to its entertainment system, then...
[19:06:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overzealous prosecution - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:18] <exec> 08└─Why the fuck does Aaron Swartz always get brought into conversations that have absolutely nothing to do with him and what he did to himself? Come on! He did some bad things that he probably knew he shouldn't have been doing. Then when he gets called out on it, he voluntarily ended his own life. Ever...
[19:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overzealous prosecution - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:19] <exec> 08└─some bad things that he probably knew he shouldn't have been doing
[19:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overzealous prosecution - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:21] <exec> 08└─Stop existing, asshole!
[19:06:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:Quite Disturbing - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:23] <exec> 08└─Sounds more like common sense to me. The police have to break the law in pretty much every action they take, to do their job. When the police at allowed to seize your devices and data to access it, they must need the legal ability to actually accomplish this. There are already many laws in place tha...
[19:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Sue? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:26] <exec> 08└─You cannot sue the UK Government easily - so I don't see this being a path to follow. Nor do I see any political party making a big stand over this - they might try to score some points but they would all support the law if they themselves were in power. Even if there is a major outcry I seriously d...
[19:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How does this apply to Cypherpunks? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:06:28] <exec> 08└─How does this apply to Cypherpunks?
[19:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:46] <exec> 08└─*giggles* Next you'll probably hit me with the 'Don't forget ISIS is coming to a theater near you!'( or was that neighborhood, I forget) I surrender.
[19:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:The courts don't determine what is right or wro - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:48] <exec> 08└─the courts determine what is legal; that's quite a different thing. Not always. See http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[19:07:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:02] <exec> 08└─Specifically... what?
[19:07:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 781 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:10] <exec> 08└─A good example of this is parks. Parks are all, to my knowledge, government-owned and operated, at least in the US (at least if they're open to the public). There are amusement parks which are private, but people don't go there for the scenic vistas, they go for the rides. If we tried selling off al...
[19:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02Re:I remember when the net in the '90s... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:23] <exec> 08└─In that case, we're all looking forward to your joining us in gopherspace. I'm serious! It's miniscule, entry is barred by those who know what it is and where to look for it, and can't be accessed using the software found on most consumer computers. We're few, we're elite, and it's basically plain t...
[19:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you don't like it... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:39] <exec> 08└─In fact... screw the baccarat.... and the internet!
[19:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03meisterister [949] (Score:2) 02Re:+1 Disclosure - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:16] <exec> 08└─And I think we may have a new meme on our hands...
[19:08:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Tork [3914] 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 1002 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:45] <exec> 08└─This particular AC has been whining about his unfair moderation in threads where he's obviously posting several times as AC posing as different people. In short, he's trolling. Playing the victim to get attention. I'm usually the loudest to complain about bad moderation but honestly, around here,...
[19:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:47] <exec> 08└─It's not just one AC pointing out the bad modding. engblom is a registered user who also sees that there's a problem, for example. Others have acknowledged the problems in the past, too.
[19:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:48] <exec> 08└─Tork, there is a problem with bad moderating here. It exists even if you don't want to admit it. If you're part of the problem, as you very well may be, then of course you won't want to admit it. But you should still admit it anyway. Because there is a problem with bad moderating here.
[19:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:50] <exec> 08└─Do you understand that you're missing something vital to your claim? I'm trying to help you, here.
[19:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:53] <exec> 08└─Moderators need to be held accountable for their abuses.
[19:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:54] <exec> 08└─The best comments I've ever seen here have come from ACs. All of them. I have never seen truly insightful, deep comments come from a registered user. Registered users aren't here to engage in truly thought-provoking discussion. They're here to build up a reputation. They're here for the sake of vani...
[19:08:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:56] <exec> 08└─Please give us examples of some good comments that were modded down. All I've seen in this thread and others today are a few anti-Gewg and anti-commie rants.
[19:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:58] <exec> 08└─Read the fucking comments here, dipshit. You'll find a comment giving the kind of examples you are looking for. [soylentnews.org]
[19:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ipv6 - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:05] <exec> 08└─Why is the infrastructure for this site so convoluted? It's not a particularly complex site, even when including the wiki, IRC, and other offerings.
[19:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:because deposit insurance - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 3139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:19] <exec> 08└─Yup, it does. Banking is a huge crime as it is done in pretty much every 'civilized' country. Study the term 'Fractional Reserve Banking' and then Google the Dark Enlightenment term for it, 'Maturity Transformation' and then tell me which one more accurately describes reality. When you deposit a tho...
[19:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:35] <exec> 08└─None of which they do willingly.
[19:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:36] <exec> 08└─I can't tell if that's nauseatingly naive or a cleverly written satire.
[19:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 2264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:17] <exec> 08└─Surely you jest!! (only in regards to your sig:) I agree totally with your comment. The sad state of affairs points to animals being lazy by nature, and we forget/deny we are animals too. You see it in the rise and fall of societies, nations, empires, religions, etc. throughout history. When things...
[19:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:18] <exec> 08└─The end result is actually better in the non-unionized case. At least the corporation survives in that case
[19:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:26] <exec> 08└─[Citation Needed]
[19:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to Work - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:27] <exec> 08└─The unionization of American industry did lead to its downfall. That's a fact.
[19:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:simple solution: https only - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:07] <exec> 08└─I doubt Apple would allow carriers to fuck with the security of their iThings like that and Google owns Android, if the contracts that permit OEMs to include the Play Store on their phones don't already prevent this, I'm sure they soon will. Maybe they could do it on non-Apple, non-Android smartphon...
[19:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Strange - 06Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:46] <exec> 08└─I find it to be a stretch to say that people evolved with different dietary needs.
[19:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Kick Out The Jams! - 06Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:32] <exec> 08└─Whelp, took some of your suggestions, surfed them. Saw Guitars, Saw Drums. Thanks for confirming my point. (Not that I didn't encounter some interesting cuts mind you, just zero variety in choice of instruments). Now as for keyboards, my observation was meant to include synthesizers, keyboards of al...
[19:16:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That doesn't fit the crime. - 06Jury Specifies Death for Boston Marathon Bomber - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:34] <exec> 08└─You sound as vicious and nasty as this bomber was. Why stoop to his level, be a better man. Retribution doesn't benefit anyone.
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[20:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:I understand gewg_'s disgust with this. - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:05] <exec> 08└─People on the left of the economic political spectrum (including communists) are against the TPP and globalization in general. You're getting your irrational, obsessive, stereotyping backwards. Conservatives (like Obama) and corporate fascists (Republican party) are the ones who want stuff like this...
[20:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I understand gewg_'s disgust with this. - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:06] <exec> 08└─Leftists are only against it because it's tyranny that they aren't responsible for. If they were authoring this, then they'd be supporting it wholeheartedly.
[20:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple rules to follow... - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:10] <exec> 08└─Don't forget Hanlon's razor. Or Peter's principle. Or Murphy's Law. And, Hitler! (opps!)
[20:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Suck a yellow cock for Amaterasu! - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:06:13] <exec> 08└─Have a sticky day, peeps!
[20:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Sounds reasonable to me - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:06:14] <exec> 08└─The TPP doesn't appear to have any concern for the damage it inflicts on individuals, so their arguments are probably correct. And the same arguments probably apply to every country involved. There are undoubtedly "good" reasons why they're keeping the terms secret from the populace.
[20:06:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sounds reasonable to me - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:16] <exec> 08└─So why would Cypherpunks create this kind of a treaty if it screws everybody over? Why would they do that?
[20:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there a reason to have these systems connect - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:25] <exec> 08└─The moving map needs to have the location of the plane sent to it
[20:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Simulator? - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:29] <exec> 08└─As Chris Roberts points out, the statement is some sort of super-compressed summary of a lot of stuff. One of many articles I've seen on the subject pointed out that he had once tried out various things with a simulator [wired.com]. I could easily see the FBI statement as a conflation: he attacked t...
[20:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quite Disturbing - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:47] <exec> 08└─The Police should never have to break the law. It is their job to enforce the law. If law enforcement is allowed to break the law then then all hope is lost.
[20:06:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Sue? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 935 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:51] <exec> 08└─We don't have a written constitution. All we can do (usually) is to hope that the House of Lords reject changes to the law on the grounds that it goes against traditionally-accepted notions of liberty and free speech. We have a Supreme Court nowadays where laws can be challenged, but that's expensiv...
[20:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Eternal September - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:33] <exec> 08└─I remember BIFF...
[20:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:43] <exec> 08└─Jesus Christ. What a travesty. A parking lot with trees is called a park.
[20:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:53] <exec> 08└─You can make it hard for the mainstream by putting up minimum demands. In the beginning, the internet required technical skills and a appreciation for text and other less stimulating input. Not to talk about being curious enough to figure out that it even existed. Perhaps this can serve as a hint on...
[20:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:I remember when the net in the '90s... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:58] <exec> 08└─Try to report on the finer details on differential equation using gopher.. HTML has its uses. But it kind of stops being improved at HTML-2 or HTML-4. Then there's DVI, SGML, Math-ML, LaTex, PS etc.
[20:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:06] <exec> 08└─It was somewhere between '92 and '94, when I emailed researcher (who I did not know) at Lawrence Livermore national lab, and got help building a home wind turbine. That shit could never happen today. It was a different place. There was etiquette. People were helpful with strangers. And, yes, I was t...
[20:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03demonlapin [925] (Score:2) 02Re:Does cold storage require the blockchain? - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:35] <exec> 08└─No, you don't need the blockchain to have a wallet. You don't even need a computer.
[20:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How can we know that the DB wasn't breached? - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:49] <exec> 08└─If this email account was breached, how can we be sure that the database or databases containing the user data were not breached, as well?
[20:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 2398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:31] <exec> 08└─A few more examples of comments that were unfairly modded down: http://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] http://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] http://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] http://soylen...
[20:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:32] <exec> 08└─If I'm not mistaken, that's a list of comments that Tork posted as AC.
[20:09:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 506 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:57] <exec> 08└─El Reg's resident Reactionary gets everything wrong. Why would anyone think he would get this right? Bailing out private banks (or any other failed Capitalist) is nuts. All you need is a public bank. North Dakota has had such a bank for over a century. Every place should have one. ND hasn't had the...
[20:10:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 37 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:19] <exec> 08└─lack of regulations didn't cause 2008
[20:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:51] <exec> 08└─What US got isn't really democracy at the moment. But rather coprocrapy.
[20:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:07] <exec> 08└─- Communism works, but the USSR (and China, N. Korea, etc) were not real communists
[20:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:/me dons his tinfoil hat. - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:20] <exec> 08└─I've recognized our neo-feudalist future, with corporations as the lords, but it never really clicked that corporations are about to become our one-world-government (although "money"/"capitalism" as the one-world-religion has been obvious for a long time). Thanks for pointing that out.
[20:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:students should take notes by hand, on paper - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 2853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:38] <exec> 08└─But "Being an active participant in the class by asking questions and engaging" means asking those questions, and 28 of your students aren't doing that. I did about 6 months of tutorials/lectures/etc as part of my broadcast engineer training. It was far better than a year of university, due to 1) Ha...
[20:11:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Prussian Education - 06Schools That Ban Mobile Phones See Better Academic Results - 674 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:52] <exec> 08└─The increasing lockdown, badge-for-access, badge-for-bathroom, zero-judgement/zero-tolerance, and no cell phone policies are designed to create the perfect Prussian worker. Obedient, unquestioning, servile soldiers and wage slaves. Maybe the problem is the teachers are doing the same material for de...
[20:12:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02Re:Japanese do build cars here... in non-union sta - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 321 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:31] <exec> 08└─Perhaps if the big three would try treating workers like the foreign companies do, they wouldn't be so interested in being in a union. Funny how it's apparently OK for a large corporation to throw it's weight around against individual employees but god forbid the employees should band together for c...
[20:12:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 240 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:33] <exec> 08└─How is an American company supposed to survive if it has to pay its unionized workers $80/hour, while somebody in Mexico or China doing the same job will do it for $3/hour, or some Japanese robots will do it at an even lower cost than that?
[20:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:simple solution: https only - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:49] <exec> 08└─if they switch to only use https, the ISPs cannot interfere without breaking security and in the process make some EU regulators very unhappy with the ISPs.
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[21:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What did Aaron Swartz have to say about this? - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:00] <exec> 08└─What did Aaron Swartz have to say about the TPP? Did he support it? Or did he stand against it?
[21:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I understand gewg_'s disgust with this. - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:05] <exec> 08└─Now you're just contradicting yourself. Do "leftists" as you style them oppose the TPP or oppose the people trying to stop it? Which is it, retard?
[21:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I understand gewg_'s disgust with this. - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:06] <exec> 08└─There's no contradiction. Leftists would support the TPP if they wrote it. Leftists would not support the TPP if they did not write it. Leftists support any tyranny that they control. Leftists do not support any tyranny that they do not control.
[21:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It doesn't matter! - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:08] <exec> 08└─It doesn't matter. Red-blooded patriots like me--good! Lib'ruls bad! Who cares what they believe or vote for? Who cares what their views are or what they say? They are bad no matter what! It's us against them and we're better off not even listening to a word they're saying. FOX News and Rush Limbaug...
[21:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Does this mean more tentacle pr0n? - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:13] <exec> 08└─If the domestic farm sector will be destroyed
[21:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Sounds reasonable to me - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:17] <exec> 08└─You don't need to speculate. Parts of the agreement have been leaked over time. It will be a fucking disaster for the man on the street and a massive win for the huge multinationals. Oh wait...business as usual...
[21:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Here's what I'm going to say to the President - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:06:18] <exec> 08└─I'm going to tell him that I don't know whether to tell my legislators that I support it or that I oppose it, and that I can't determine which until I've read the treaty in its entirety. So I'm going to ask President Obama to mail me a copy.
[21:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Here's what I'm going to say to the President - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:20] <exec> 08└─Good luck with that. Also, your method for getting things into your hosts file seems a little over-complicated. I might be missing something though.
[21:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Here's what I'm going to say to the President - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:22] <exec> 08└─I tried his method on my Windows system but it didn't work.
[21:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there a reason to have these systems connect - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 2086 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:31] <exec> 08└─For the map, never spend money you don't have to, and for a passenger entertainment you could just play a movie of a simulated moving map. I don't think anyone would care. Yet going the other way around, they build planes to last a long time and you can safely assume someones going to be announcing...
[21:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't pass the sniff test - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:36] <exec> 08└─Make them demonstrate it. His defense is that this is impossible in the aircraft that he was flying in at the time. Make the government prove that he actually did it, demonstrate that it is in fact possible. After all, if the government, with all their resources can not duplicate the feat, then it d...
[21:06:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't pass the sniff test - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:38] <exec> 08└─Climbing is, after all, controlled by the control surfaces, and while it may need increased thrust, I don't see why that would be a distinct command. I will concede that my knowledge of jetliners is more than a bit lacking, though, so perhaps that is how it actually works.
[21:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Vote for gewg_ for Prez - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:42] <exec> 08└─The East block lost only to have the West transform into a newer politburo and Stasi.
[21:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Overzealous prosecution - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:49] <exec> 08└─Because Swartz is a good example on what motivates prosecutors and modus operandi? In this situation it would be willful misinterpretation regarding facts, purpose and exaggeration. Besides the law entanglement likely has no merit. But perhaps the CV will be padded enough to take political office..
[21:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Overzealous prosecution - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 1006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:51] <exec> 08└─People don't appreciate security research being done mid flight regardless of whether the system could have been better designed. If he had asked his fellow passengers if they minded if he tested to see if he could hack the plane controls through the entertainment system, do you think anyone would s...
[21:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Quite Disturbing - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:01] <exec> 08└─The police have to break the law in pretty much every action they take, to do their job.
[21:07:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02But what did Aaron Swartz think? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:03] <exec> 08└─But what did Aaron Swartz think about this?
[21:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Sue? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:06] <exec> 08└─Entice the power without accountability to do something morally deplorable and get them caught in the act. Then serve them to the hyenas?
[21:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03NoMaster [3543] (Score:2) 02Re:The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:44] <exec> 08└─Any browser that enables ecmascript *by default* is broken by design. It's impossible to secure that browser or anything that browser has access to. All the major browsers are broken by design, and have been for many years. And it has a circular effect - script abilities *and permissions* are now as...
[21:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:The Internet is fine. The WWW is broken. - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:48] <exec> 08└─But to be fair, compared to the ActiveX web Microsoft did dream of, Web 2.0 is relatively harmless.
[21:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Who were the ones who wouldn't pay for content? - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:03] <exec> 08└─Wait, you say "park" is not an abbreviation of "parking lot"?
[21:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:12] <exec> 08└─GOP? How about the Democrats too? Your bias is showing. Politicians of both major parties have screwed this up. Remember Al Gore and the PMRC? Bill Clinton and the Cryptography mess? Remove your bias.
[21:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:15] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, the mainstream brings lots of benefits. For example, lamborghini has a reputation for being maintenance nightmares, while toyota corollas are rock solid. When you are young tweaking code and working around bugs is fun. I'm willing to bet most soybeans are well past that point and...
[21:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Does cold storage require the blockchain? - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:56] <exec> 08└─Actually, you don't even need money.
[21:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:What a fucking dumb submission. - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:57] <exec> 08└─The only other option is to use some centralized third party service, which DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF USING A DECENTRALIZED CURRENCY!
[21:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Book that consist of speculation and trivia? - 06Decoding the Enigma of Satoshi Nakamoto - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:01] <exec> 08└─That sounds just like a typical gewg_ submission here at SoylentNews.
[21:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Just not good enough. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:25] <exec> 08└─Prepared statements do take the burden of sanitation away from the developers (as far as the DB goes anyways). Since slash has business logic in the DB that could make moving to anything else a bit of a pain : /
[21:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:50] <exec> 08└─Tork wrongly says it's just some AC who's complaining, but both of those comments are from registered users.
[21:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:51] <exec> 08└─Even a single incorrectly moderated comment is a huge deal. It doesn't matter who the victim is. The fact that one person was victimized is more than enough for this to become a big deal around here. There have been many examples given, affecting many victims. That makes this a big deal.
[21:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:53] <exec> 08└─Even a single incorrectly moderated comment is a huge deal.
[21:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:because deposit insurance - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:20] <exec> 08└─An economy without cash actually flowing via loans and spending would contract considerably.
[21:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:just a moment - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:23] <exec> 08└─Maybe if Americans wouldn't buy houses they can't afford and cars they can't afford, they could afford to have savings.
[21:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:31] <exec> 08└─Crony capitalism is not socialism, no matter how much you try to conflate them.
[21:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:35] <exec> 08└─Perversion or not, its still capitalism.
[21:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:40] <exec> 08└─That each person, doing what they do out of pure self interest will, if all trade is kept voluntary, create a society where all benefit through the magic invisible hand of the marketplace.
[21:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:42] <exec> 08└─real capitalists like... the real capitalists....
[21:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:1) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:34] <exec> 08└─Agreed (and a silly mistake of me, having argued this exact point at some moment in the past). My main point still stands though.
[21:11:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:Secret Treaties - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 1882 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:43] <exec> 08└─Mon Dieu, Monsieur! You seem to have taken my comment literally, which can only mean you are a moron. We will begin with this. Yes, all citizens of the planet have a vote, that vote is cast at the United Nations. You may not thing that is body is legitimate, but then many of your fellow citizens of...
[21:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Secret Treaties - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:45] <exec> 08└─I've always thought there something fundamentally wrong with people when I see stuff like proudly displayed attitudes that show that they consider the ideal of a utopia somehow a BAD thing. Your comment makes me picture an environment where real people might say it. I picture something like two guys...
[21:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work FOR LESS - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:35] <exec> 08└─Ah, you finally got to +5. Well deserved. A very important comment. Maybe if you had put The Right to Work for Less in bold, that would have happened a bit earlier. ...and you need to use the word "hypothesis" more. -- gewg_
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[22:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Where's this world going... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:05:55] <exec> 08└─... universities have now scientists that study a FPS game?
[22:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where's this world going... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:56] <exec> 08└─You must be a dinosaur if you remember when Quake was a game.
[22:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Touché) 02Hamm-fisted approach... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:05:57] <exec> 08└─My question is: if you take the department out of the university so you can hire the yes-men you want, are you also going to only hire geologists who only find giant oil pockets exactly where you want them?
[22:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02I'm confused about why I'm supposed to be angry - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:05:59] <exec> 08└─So what is the complaint here? Are these cossetted intellectuals now demanding that billionaires only contribute to universities on the basis that they will have zero opinion on the uses of their largess? Or only that only some (badthinkers) people will be silenced?
[22:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02So how far did he get? - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:06:01] <exec> 08└─Hamm's meeting with Grillot resulted in no apparent changes at the university. "The governor does not have the authority to decouple OU and OGS, nor has she proposed doing so," he said in an e-mailed statement.
[22:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple rules to follow... - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:20] <exec> 08└─Sounds complicated. I'm not saying its wrong and not saying its not going to get the correct result, just saying its complicated. Could just follow the money, who's paying the lawyers, if it ain't you then the result is usually not going to be good for you. "Who's paying the lawyers" seems to work p...
[22:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple MATH to follow... - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:21] <exec> 08└─Population of Japan 127.3 million. 1000 objectors = 0.00078740157 Percent. We are doomed. Doomed I say.
[22:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Great idea - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:06:32] <exec> 08└─I wonder if this can be done in Australia
[22:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02USAF on flight computer reliability - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:03] <exec> 08└─the father of a close friend of mine was a USAF transport plane pilot - C-141 and C-5. My friend told me that it was SOP for his father and his crew to set the autopilot then fall asleep on long flights. That is the crew all sleeps at the same time, no one stands watch. I was incredulous about this....
[22:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Sue? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:19] <exec> 08└─the police and others do sometimes need this power in order to carry out their duties
[22:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Image that! - 06Appeals Court to Flight Attendants Regarding Electronic Gadgets: Get Over Yourselves - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:44] <exec> 08└─OMG!!! LMAO!! I just don't know when to quit, I guess! :-) Thanks for the genuine belly-laugh that your reply caused.
[22:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03chucky [3309] (Score:1) 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:31] <exec> 08└─And that's probably why this website is still worth reading. A few articles in a day, few comments, but people trying to say something, not just anything. Stupidity of every debate grows with number of participants squared. Heck, this article had 85 comments when I started typing this...
[22:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Plus ca change - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:44] <exec> 08└─That shit could never happen today.
[22:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Great reason not to have an account here. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:30] <exec> 08└─HAHAHA, DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS
[22:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:01] <exec> 08└─there is a problem with bad moderating here.
[22:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:09] <exec> 08└─The best comments I've ever seen here have come from ACs. All of them. I have never seen truly insightful, deep comments come from a registered user.
[22:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:10] <exec> 08└─Registered users aren't here to engage in truly thought-provoking discussion. They're here to build up a reputation. They're here for the sake of vanity.
[22:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:12] <exec> 08└─Moderators who mod down good posts, or even just a single post, should never mod again.
[22:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the only functionality being abused. - 06Full Disclosure: SN Email Account Compromised - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:16] <exec> 08└─Agreeing with the posters' biases does not make downmoderations to it bad. As for that last one, there's nothing wrong there, thats an example of the community fixed a perceived bad mod; the rest are modded correctly.
[22:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Bank of North Dakota - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:52] <exec> 08└─corrupted by government... which is socialist
[22:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:52] <exec> 08└─i agree, democracy has problems. its basically just mob rule. what are the alternatives though (specifically the ones you say weren't possible 30 years ago)? authoritarianism/totalitarianism are pretty obviously bad; monarchies are hit-or-miss, depending on the individual ruler, and can fluctuate wi...
[22:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to Work (Orwellian term) - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:07] <exec> 08└─The Chinese produce junk, almost exclusively.
[22:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self-hating member of the working class - 06Illinois Governor Gets Zero Votes On His "Right To Work" Bill - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:11] <exec> 08└─How do you explain how effective unions are in Germany, and how successful Germany's industry is? This is meant both as a rhetorical argument and a legitimate question. How come unions are so good in Germany (and effectively in Japan as well, as I understand it) but don't have the same successes in...
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[23:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Price Lookup Codes - 06USDA Plans Voluntary GMO Labeling and Certification - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:52] <exec> 08└─There is already a way to unreliably find out the origins of produce. [snopes.com] I suppose this new program is an improvement, depending on the penalties for 'accidentally' mis-classifiying the food.
[23:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Hamm-fisted approach... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:03] <exec> 08└─Hamm-fisted approach...
[23:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm confused about why I'm supposed to be angry - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:05] <exec> 08└─(trying to speak your language, maybe it will get through) You should be angry on the possibility that a quake will destroy the beloved gas wells and there will be nobody to signal the risk to the stakeholders - a 400-fold increase in quakes signals this as a non-trivial possibility. Therefore, a go...
[23:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm confused about why I'm supposed to be angry - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:06] <exec> 08└─Man, anyone ever tell you you're kinda icky?
[23:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02I can play this game too.... - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 1787 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:08] <exec> 08└─You will have to stay confused. This is not about whether you are angry or not, and if you can't figure out if you are angry or not, why should we decide for you, or even care? Take a breath now. I would hate to see you suffocate just because someone did not tell you recently to breathe. ;-) It is a...
[23:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02But oil companies would only do good things - 06Oil CEO Wanted University Quake Scientists Dismissed: Dean's E-Mail - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:10] <exec> 08└─Only tinfoil hats seriously believe oil companies would do anything nefarious.. Oh wait! it's documented.. shit, moral morass! we must demand documentation burning at the university immediately! But I'm sure the market (oil) will fix this quickly. ;-)
[23:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trans-Pacific Partnership - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:20] <exec> 08└─I made some adjustments to the original text to make the summary shorter and more clear. Meanwhile, I missed the elephant in the room. I will endeavor to improve my technique. -- gewg_
[23:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Re:TPP - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:21] <exec> 08└─Oh, I thought it was Twitch Plays Pokemon.
[23:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I understand gewg_'s disgust with this. - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:29] <exec> 08└─Leftists would support the TPP if they wrote it.
[23:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple MATH to follow... - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:37] <exec> 08└─When lawyers get involved, it only takes 5 out of 9 people to change a lot for 300 million Americans.
[23:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Great idea - 06Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Sue Their Gov't to Keep Japan Out of TPP - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:48] <exec> 08└─Theoretically, yes. Practically, we got graver things to worry about, like Pistol and Boo [soylentnews.org]
[23:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there a reason to have these systems connect - 06FBI: Security Researcher Hacked and Took Control of United Airlines Plane Mid-flight - 866 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:59] <exec> 08└─Maybe what happened was he F'ed with the passenger entertainment IFE moving map display and changed that. That makes sense, if you assume everyone involved is a complete idiot. I can't think of any other explanation though. I originally gave benefit of the doubt and assumed that the IFE system must...
[23:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:Quite Disturbing - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:29] <exec> 08└─And how do you expect them to enforce the law? Ask people nicely to please refrain from breaking the law?
[23:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Sue? - 06UK Government Quietly Rewrites Hacking Laws to Give GCHQ Immunity - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:37] <exec> 08└─Is anyone able to come up with a reasonable example where this new law is needed?
[23:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:46] <exec> 08└─GOP? How about the Democrats too? Your bias is showing. Politicians of both major parties have screwed this up. Remember Al Gore and the PMRC? Bill Clinton and the Cryptography mess? Remove your bias.
[23:08:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Balderdash [693] (Score:2) 02Re:You should know this... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:51] <exec> 08└─Eternal September. http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[23:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:I remember when the net in the '90s... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 1327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:57] <exec> 08└─One feature on a branch of the IdleRPG bot which SN runs is a gopher server. Alas, while testing it, I was unable to get more than one client at a time to work (from gopher, lynx, w3m, iceweasel, IIRC). I delved into the standard, and the protocol is underspecified and downright ambiguous in places....
[23:08:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02Re:I remember when the net in the '90s... - 06Ask Soylent: Is the Internet Broken Beyond Repair? - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:58] <exec> 08└─W3M is pretty broken. Lynx is pretty much the go-to client, and overbite for Firefox adds it to the browser. I confess it's a limited ecosystem, but it's nice to have alternatives to the WWW for sharing info. My server runs pygopherd, for what it's worth - it's a dead simple install and runs practic...
[23:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:28] <exec> 08└─alan greenspan fixed the price of money at zero and pumped the derivative markets full of printed money (the same tactic used after 2008 was used in 2001 after the dot-com crash) free-market capitalist alan greenspan aint you might want to google 'keynesian' (alan greenspan and ben bernanke) and 'au...
[23:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In effect, the article makes excuses - 06So Why the Hell Do We Bail Banks Out? - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:35] <exec> 08└─there is some top notch ignorance going on here. no wonder the world has gone to economic shit how do you know who's trustworthy? really? fucking liberals
[23:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:52] <exec> 08└─I love the USA and it's Constitution a lot. Enough so that I truly put my life at risk many times when I enlisted in the US Army in 1977...no regrets here.
[23:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics is a Popularity Contest - 0613 Democrats Have Reversed Their Votes on the Fast Track Trade Measure - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:53] <exec> 08└─Democracy is shit, but the alternative is way worse.
[23:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:simple solution: https only - 06EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:55] <exec> 08└─Depends on your definition of "breaking security"
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[23:18:55] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********