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[00:30:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pre-order discounts for a fridge - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:23] <exec> 08└─How much does the DLC Season Pass cost?
[00:30:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02This is very disturbing to me - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:24] <exec> 08└─You see, the reason is that I like my women like I like my coffee: Strong, black, ground up and in my freezer.
[00:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:This is very disturbing to me - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:26] <exec> 08└─I'm sure there's a Google+ circle for that.
[00:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Depends ... - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:35] <exec> 08└─Yeah, with the floppies you could reformat and have a whole 1.4 Megs of storage. Then came tons of CDs which were read only disks. We all made mobiles out of them. I even made a solar oven with some chicken wire and mess of AOL disks. Seems like I was getting them every week.
[00:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Depends ... - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:37] <exec> 08└─I took an old washing machine to the dump, when behind a mountain of garbage I heard the Street Fighter II announcers voice. I walked around the garbage heap and there he was! All of a sudden he shouts... AOL install disk vs. E.T. cartridge... FIGHT! Then and there, in the middle of a junkyard, I wi...
[00:30:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:41] <exec> 08└─I'm a completely different person as far as you can tell, mod my earlier post up!
[00:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:43] <exec> 08└─Sour grapes.
[00:30:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:46] <exec> 08└─Correction: All Media the world over is owned by Corporations, other than that part owned by Governments. Of the two, I can't figure which I trust less. Nobody in their right mind would publish any kind of news paper, radio, television under their own name. The first lawsuit to come down the road wo...
[00:30:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:48] <exec> 08└─It's really getting to be a pain in the ass having to change to -1 all the time just to see good comments that have been downvoted for no reason.
[00:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Must be lots left - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:54] <exec> 08└─If you value the company too low, the shareholders won't approve the deal. If profits drop, you might not make back your $4.4 billion.
[00:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03danmars [3662] (Score:2) 02Will those properties now have trouble? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:56] <exec> 08└─Verizon had tried to start its own news site, and it ran into problems with editorial control before it died a quick death. What happens if they start flexing that muscle on these newly-acquired properties as well? As much as I don't tend to read The Huffington Post or TechCrunch, it would be sad to...
[00:30:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02internet has no borders .. not - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:58] <exec> 08└─they ownZ the network and thus dont have to squable of interconnect ... stuff thus if verizon enables multicast on their mobile phone network ... wow .. future man!
[00:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Funny) 02You got peanut butter in my chocolate! - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:31:00] <exec> 08└─Ah, the reliability of AOL and the customer service of Verizon. A match made in heaven.
[00:31:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02are these cables really necessary? - 06Microsoft Invests in Undersea Cables Connecting America to Ireland and Asia - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:31:32] <exec> 08└─would it be possible to avoid the need for them with better caching, routing, geography-specific DNS and load balancing? Maybe the fiber is just cheaper than all that software development, maybe more reliable too.
[00:32:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Weirdos. - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:32:05] <exec> 08└─I prefer my water be recycled through a really big distillation plant. I am talking on a scale of the Pacific Ocean as an evaporator and the Rocky Mountains as the condenser. With lots of oxygen and raw sunlight in between to break down anything organic that might be hitching a ride.
[00:32:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:What good is an open Internet? - 06FCC Presses on with Open Internet Rules - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:32:30] <exec> 08└─Duh. All Democrats do.
[00:32:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:What good is an open Internet? - 06FCC Presses on with Open Internet Rules - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:32:43] <exec> 08└─I browse at -1. It is abused regularly, but there are those that try and fix it as well. I think the moderation is working quite nicely and encourages involvement.
[00:33:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02A different thought - 06*Breaking* Another Earthquake in Nepal - 687 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:14] <exec> 08└─Disasters in places like these are a good argument for cargo airships [nextbigfuture.com] to bring in real quantities of materiel. No runway or port facilities or roads required, and more controllable than parachuting in pallets that seem to wind up on the black market. In the Haiti earthquake we ha...
[00:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Welllllllll . . . - 06Assange Appeal Rejected by Sweden's Supreme Court - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:33:55] <exec> 08└─And what return on this investment has there been? How many police hours have been spent making sure Assange stays in his adopted home instead of investigating actual crimes affecting actual Brits?
[00:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:No extradition from London? Wait, what?? - 06Assange Appeal Rejected by Sweden's Supreme Court - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:34:10] <exec> 08└─Assange isn't a petty criminal. He's at the epicentre of a pan-national situation.
[00:34:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Re:'Ignorance of the law is no excuse' - 06Jeffrey Sterling Sentenced to 42 Months in Prison For Sharing Classified Information - 86 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:34:48] <exec> 08└─I paid my debt to society by crafting two sculptures then donating them to the county.
[00:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I don't particularly object to advertising. - 06Tor Shutting Down Anonymous Cloud Service - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:35:06] <exec> 08└─I object to analytics, that's a different thing.
[00:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Yes - and Dr. Dorfan was a _Physics_ prof - 06Russian Homegrown Elbrus-4C CPU Released - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:35:37] <exec> 08└─he was griping about UCSC's Electrical Engineering department. One could obtain a EE degree without ever studying analog. While electronics was an elective for Physics students, the physics department's analog course was a prerequisite for the physics department's digital course.
[00:36:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Isaac Newton was not really a mathemetician either - 06The Mathematician Who Loves Hitting People - 369 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:36:12] <exec> 08└─Newton was mostly an alchemist and theologian who spent a lot of his time running the Royal Mint and did the math and physics work basically as a fun side project (mostly on a bet). That it was his hobby interests that are still being taught today tells you that either he was smart enough to make Ei...
[00:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Why Einstein discovered relativity - 06The Mathematician Who Loves Hitting People - 951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:36:14] <exec> 08└─He write four papers of historical importance all at once, with a fifth being his derivation of E=mC^2, as a followup to his paper on relativity. The other papers were on the photoelectric effect, for which he won the nobel, a statistical study of brownian motion, which proved that atoms really do e...
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[01:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Rack Mount Fridge - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:37] <exec> 08└─The 13U 19" rack-mount fridge [canford.co.uk] is a real fridge. Everything else is a toy.
[01:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Rack Mount Fridge - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:38] <exec> 08└─CANFORD RACK FRIDGE Ideal for OB trucks, studio hospitality etc. 240V AC powered, 65 watts, energy consumption 0.76kWh/24h. 13U height. Depth required 383mm. Colour black.
[01:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Insightful) 02The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:40] <exec> 08└─Somebody explain what the purpose of an Internet connected fridge is? Just clamp a tablet to the front of one if you want to use the surface for a display. Maybe put a sensor in it and use BT if you are really hellbent on knowing what the temp inside is. But this is insane, any tech will be obsolete...
[01:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:41] <exec> 08└─I've often wondered this too. What exactly is the purpose of having appliances on the internet?
[01:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:43] <exec> 08└─I'd settle for webcams in my fridge so I can see what I've actually got.
[01:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Open Source iOS compatible - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:44] <exec> 08└─Isn't that still a contradiction? It seems strange that they support (or at least mention) only iOS.
[01:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Depends ... - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:54] <exec> 08└─I wonder how many install disks AOL actually sent out. While the flow of install media seemed never ending, you would need enough space to hold over 700,000 floppies before approaching a modern average sized 1TB HDD.
[01:30:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Depends ... - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:56] <exec> 08└─Those floppies were great. AOL's floppy-sending heyday was when I was in grad school. I worked in the mailroom for the dorms and had to deal with them all the time. Because they floppies were sent as bulk-rate junk mail, there were no forwarding or return privileges for them. Furthermore, they did n...
[01:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 1173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:59] <exec> 08└─One will note that the disagree mod holds no score. No +1, no -1. This is meant to head off troll/flamebait/overrated that would otherwise be used to indicate disagreement. Of course, nothing's stopping us mods (ok, this UID doesn't quite have the karma to get frequent mod points yet) from using tro...
[01:31:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:31:02] <exec> 08└─LOL...That Huffington Post is a "leftist" publication"
[01:31:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:31:10] <exec> 08└─No, I think this is MikeeeUSA throwing a fit because nobody else wants to fuck kids.
[01:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:31:12] <exec> 08└─Then log in, ya big baby. You can set the default view.
[01:31:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Must be lots left - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:31:18] <exec> 08└─I'll bet the person who receives the 4bil check thinks about the transaction very differently. He'll have this guy think he's just buying the company with the company's own money. Then i'll take a walk with 4bil of HIS money and leave him to squeeze water from that turd. It just seems that in financ...
[01:32:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Best used by 1988 - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:32:20] <exec> 08└─You got mod'd Funny but there's a related story that's interesting. Nestle has been bottling California water under the Arrowhead brand and selling it at premium prices to suckers for a long time. The recent story is that Nestle's permit to do that expired in 1988. The Desert Sun (Palm Springs area)...
[01:32:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Water Cycle? - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:32:30] <exec> 08└─You know who else drank water? Hitler!
[01:32:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02toilets that don't need flushing - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 1344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:33] <exec> 08└─... would make a lot more water available for drinking, as most residential water goes down the porcelain throne. I once toured the Integral Urban House in Berkeley, more or less a bunch of hippies worked really hard to build a home that is in balance with the environment. They had a no-water toilet...
[01:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:What good is an open Internet? - 06FCC Presses on with Open Internet Rules - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:33:09] <exec> 08└─Oh, the humanity! A single bad moderation affects not just the commenter, but it indiscriminately affects everybody who wants to read that comment.
[01:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02In Soviet Russia... - 06Research Paper With 2863 Authors Expands Knowledge of Bacteriophages - 1163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:07] <exec> 08└─... phages cured infectious disease. This because the West kept antibiotics away from the Communist Bloc. I was appalled when I found that out, as my life has been saved more than once by antibiotics - the west was killing soviet children because we wanted to have a military advantage over them. In...
[01:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How do you cite that? - 06Research Paper With 2863 Authors Expands Knowledge of Bacteriophages - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:08] <exec> 08└─Seriously, how are you supposed to fit that list of authors in the references?
[01:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:No extradition from London? Wait, what?? - 06Assange Appeal Rejected by Sweden's Supreme Court - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:34:44] <exec> 08└─There are valid reasons they, and law enforcement in general, wants to conduct interviews or interrogations in an area they control.
[01:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02The Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Jr.'s Take: - 06Assange Appeal Rejected by Sweden's Supreme Court - 1186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:34:45] <exec> 08└─"One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." -- as written in "Letter from a Birmingham Jail". Some no doubt well-meaning white ministers criticized King for violating the law. They pointed out that the civil rights movement would surely get a lot more respect, were protestors to obey th...
[01:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Was it really rape? - 06Assange Appeal Rejected by Sweden's Supreme Court - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:35:01] <exec> 08└─Yeah - except both women consented to interviews, and both women are quoted as making the statements. Try some European news sources, and don't limit yourself to US MSM.
[01:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:The Cloud doesn't write code? - 06Tor Shutting Down Anonymous Cloud Service - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:35:35] <exec> 08└─Even for a magical code writing cloud, you'll have to write the code yourself: You need the code of the cloud to run the cloud, but you would need the cloud already running to have it write the code.
[01:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:$51.6K plus benefits - 06The FSF is hiring: Seeking a Boston-area full-time Web Developer - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:36:33] <exec> 08└─4 weeks paid vacation is nice, but still, $51.6K doesn't go far in Boston. Sounds like they're looking either for a retireee with a few million USD in the bank, or someone fresh out of college with a liberal arts degree.
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[02:30:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Will the lesson be learned? - 06Urinating Robot Short-Circuits Google Map Maker - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:30:24] <exec> 08└─So, in short, somebody with a beef polluted the community data and ruined it for everyone. I can't wait for the AC whining about moderation abuse appears and fails to learn the lesson.
[02:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Will the lesson be learned? - 06Urinating Robot Short-Circuits Google Map Maker - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:30:25] <exec> 08└─At least the whining will be on-topic this time : )
[02:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02LMAO - 06Urinating Robot Short-Circuits Google Map Maker - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:30:26] <exec> 08└─I read this on some other site - but the title used here is an attention getter. "Urinating robot? Short circuit?" Some would call that click bait, but I call it a good job.
[02:31:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:31:10] <exec> 08└─Seconded.
[02:32:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:The point is? - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:32:21] <exec> 08└─There is no good reason for investing in the far more expensive processing to go from toilet to tap when you can far more cheaply make sewage clean enough for agricultural uses... Already done is a pretty good reason. From the article: Water recycling is common for uses like irrigation; purple p...
[02:32:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Naturally filtered - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:32:34] <exec> 08└─The thing is that after that, it has to be *stored* somewhere. Typically, that's in a lake or other open area. Humans Peeing In Lake May Have Killed 500 Fish [inquisitr.com] Public Utilities Commission employee Faces Suspension After Peeing in San Francisco Reservoir [cbslocal.com] ...then there's m...
[02:32:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Composting toilets - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:32:36] <exec> 08└─Brilliant things. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [alternet.org] (Flush toilets consume 40 percent of a typical home's water.) ...then combine it with a digester [sswm.info] to reclaim the biogas and use that. -- gewg_
[02:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Sounds about right, so why be a dick about it? - 06*Breaking* Another Earthquake in Nepal - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:33:43] <exec> 08└─Amusing troll thread given certain irregularities. I can't tell if that is fair or foul... We're gonna need to go to the tape!
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[03:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Afghani women need to learn STEM! - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:30:26] <exec> 08└─There's a STEM shortage over here! Americans aren't brown enough for shit work!
[03:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Shot to the head - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:30:27] <exec> 08└─Sadly, I expect this lasts until some self appointed religious bigot decides this has to stop and sends some brave jihadist assassin to shoot a school girl in the head (again).
[03:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Bad Publicity is a Banning Offense - 06Urinating Robot Short-Circuits Google Map Maker - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:30:37] <exec> 08└─Breading news! Soylent News rapes bagels!
[03:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bad Publicity is a Banning Offense - 06Urinating Robot Short-Circuits Google Map Maker - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:30:38] <exec> 08└─SoylentMews is cat feces!
[03:30:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 1663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:30:53] <exec> 08└─Well, one thing strikes me. Ever lived around a mooch? This thing might be programmed to give you a text message when someone opens the door, and maybe append a picture of the culprit. Now, you will know who got the chicken you were saving for tomorrow's sack lunch. Did your daughter's boyfriend cle...
[03:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:30:54] <exec> 08└─If it could bar codes on the way in and out, you could date things and warn of expiration. Of course there is no bar code on that plate of left over pizza, but maybe they could just do it with images. Other than that it seems pretty useless.
[03:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:30:57] <exec> 08└─MegaCorp loves it because they can now target ads to you. "You're low on milk", "You need more bacon", "You should buy a better brand of beer", There's a special on butter at Safeway'.... Add a video camera and microphone and they will know every thing you do in the kitchen.
[03:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03rufty [381] (Score:1) 02Re:Depends ... - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:31:08] <exec> 08└─Strung'em on lines over my seed beds for birdscarers.
[03:32:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:are these cables really necessary? - 06Microsoft Invests in Undersea Cables Connecting America to Ireland and Asia - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:32:15] <exec> 08└─Not if you're just streaming advertising videos to idiots, no. But there's more to the World Wide Web than a Content Delivery Network, and there's more to the Internet than the World Wide Web.
[03:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Orange County water - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:32:56] <exec> 08└─Orange County swung people to the idea of drinking recycled water with a special purification plant which has been operating since 2008 avoiding a backlash with a massive public relations campaign that involved more than 2,000 community presentations.
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[04:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not always brown. - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:30:26] <exec> 08└─Some afghan girls aren't brown either: http://media.sacbee.com [sacbee.com] Imagine marrying a girl like that. Other afghan girls of slightly darker shades: https://commons.wikimedia.org [wiki...
[04:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shot to the head - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:30:28] <exec> 08└─They are slightly harder to hit on skates.
[04:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shot to the head - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:30:30] <exec> 08└─You're totally right, we need a self appointed council of female jihadists to hunt down and assassinate every male cleric, because all women want is revenge, and they want it now.
[04:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shot to the head - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:30:32] <exec> 08└─Maybe they should be wearing a helmet (reinforced with kevlar).
[04:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shot to the head - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:30:33] <exec> 08└─Shoot 'em in the ovaries, for being uppity enough to leave the kitchen.
[04:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Good. Girls should be married as children. - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 1705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:30:35] <exec> 08└─Young girls are very cute and pretty. The people that kill feminists are obeying the God of the Old Testament. Read Deuteronomy. In Deuteronomy it is commanded that if someone entices one to follow another god/ruler/judge, kill them. Deuteronomy 22 28-29 in hebrew allows child marriage of girls (in...
[04:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02"Self appointed" - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:30:36] <exec> 08└─>Sadly, I expect this lasts until some self appointed religious bigot decides this has to stop Ever read the old testament SJW faggot. It is a general command to murder such people. The old testament appoints everyone as executioner. Go read Deuteronomy you piece of shit. Also men like young girls a...
[04:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Hans Reiser did nothing wrong. - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:30:38] <exec> 08└─Hans Reiser did nothing wrong. He did the correct thing.
[04:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02These girls should be raped and married to rapist. - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:30:40] <exec> 08└─That would learn them. Deuteronomy 22 28-29, hebrew. Do it. Also Kill feminists.
[04:30:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Good. - 06Urinating Robot Short-Circuits Google Map Maker - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:30:49] <exec> 08└─Google supports female emancipation, and is opposed to men marrying girl children. Anything to fuck with them should be done. Anything.
[04:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:31:05] <exec> 08└─If it could bar codes on the way in and out, you could date things and warn of expiration.
[04:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:31:08] <exec> 08└─http://www.operatorchan.org/g/src/141247604345.jpg [operatorchan.org]
[04:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Welllllllll . . . - 06Assange Appeal Rejected by Sweden's Supreme Court - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:35:06] <exec> 08└─Apparently you misunderstand goals of all governments.
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[05:30:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03SacredSalt [2772] (Score:2, Funny) 02Would be nice.... - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:30:24] <exec> 08└─It would be nice to see a privacy ruling actually go in favor of privacy in the US.
[05:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02On call vs stalker boss - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:30:25] <exec> 08└─It is perfectly fine to be 'on call' and we in the IT game understand this concept quite well. A GPS track would be really handy in an on call situation for finding who is closest when the poop hits the fan at an odd hour. If you expect somebody to be 'on call' you generally pay a nice premium for i...
[05:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Breaking NEWS! Plaintiff loses case - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:30:27] <exec> 08└─GPS tracking devices to be installed in everyone's colon, or the terrorists will win.
[05:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Use Linux - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:30:44] <exec> 08└─I heard Linus Torvalds once raped a young girl to death.
[05:31:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03cyrano [1034] (Score:2) 02Re:Must be lots left - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:31:54] <exec> 08└─The key word here is "audience". After all, it's Warren Buffet who's doing the buying and it seems just in time for the next presidential election. Can't be for the profit. He's already the richest man on the planet Didn't he say once "I'm going to be the Osama bin Laden of capitalism"?
[05:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Welllllllll . . . - 06Assange Appeal Rejected by Sweden's Supreme Court - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:35:16] <exec> 08└─The 'government' doesn't have goals any more than 'evolution' does. Both only move according to things at the individual scale and it's only an illusion when either appears to work with concerted purpose, but the 'government' is no more interested in Assange than 'evolution' is in giving fish lungs...
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[06:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On call vs stalker boss - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:30:25] <exec> 08└─Many things would be really handy to have but still should not be done. One of the questions this case will have to answer is if convenience for an employer is worth more than the spatial privacy of an employee when not being compensated.
[06:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Its a company phone. - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:30:26] <exec> 08└─That Iphone was issued by the company. Myrna is paying a humongous cost for personal use of that phone. Carry the business phone only when on company time. When one is on company time, one has to do what they are told to do. Leave the thing in the desk when you leave. Use your private personal phone...
[06:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:On call vs stalker boss - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:30:28] <exec> 08└─A GPS track would be really handy in an on call situation for finding who is closest when the poop hits the fan at an odd hour.
[06:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:30:31] <exec> 08└─Quite disturbing that I just read in The Columbian, the Vancouver Washington paper, that a burglar lifted some prescription medicine from a Walgreen's pharmacy. The police caught him because one of the bottles had a GPS in it. For GPS to be so cheap and small that it comes in pill bottles, I find q...
[06:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:30:32] <exec> 08└─I have another IoT World 2015 story for you tomorrow. 127.0.0.1 doubleclick.net
[06:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02127.0.0.1 www.hosted-pixel.com - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:30:34] <exec> 08└─remember when web bugs were regarded as bad things?
[06:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:30:35] <exec> 08└─GPS in your shoes? I guess you never watched Mister Roger's Neighborhood. Mister Rogers takes off his shoes in every episode. Shoes are removable. Shoes are optional. You can live without shoes. You're not properly paranoid until GPS is in your water. Water is not optional.
[06:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02stating the obvious - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:30:37] <exec> 08└─just leave the company-issued iPhone at work. since the phone is company property, and they'll make the argument that they're tracking their property, not their employees, i find it very likely the courts will rule in favor of Intermex. so the only option for those Intermex workers that want privacy...
[06:31:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:31:46] <exec> 08└─Conservative Logic: Anything that isn't at least as far right as Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, etc = leftist communist fascist nazi totalitarian SJW conspiracy
[06:31:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Make an account & use your own points - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:31:47] <exec> 08└─ALL of the major news/discussion sites — Salon, Ars Technica, Slate, Wired, you name it — have been owned by corporations for ages now. But hey, if you you feel so strongly that a comment should be modded up, make an account and use your own freaking mod points. If you're holding back due to con...
[06:33:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:squeamishness over drinking water that was wast - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:33:15] <exec> 08└─You are right. Recycled water would probably end up cleaner than normal sources.
[06:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Publish or perish - 06Research Paper With 2863 Authors Expands Knowledge of Bacteriophages - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:35:01] <exec> 08└─Being published in a journal as a primary author is more often than not just a participation trophy too. Rarely does any paper get much readership unless there is a fad within the subject scope. Sure it is a real downer to spend hundreds of hours on a paper knowing full well that maybe a dozen peopl...
[06:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How do you cite that? - 06Research Paper With 2863 Authors Expands Knowledge of Bacteriophages - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:35:07] <exec> 08└─First listed author last name, first name, et al. then the usual title publisher and so on. That easy. Every academic writing format uses et al. or a version of it.
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[07:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Obama can do no wrong. - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:30:25] <exec> 08└─Obviously this criminal traitor Seymour Hersh is a libelous slanderer against Obama The Great.
[07:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Nigger ordered a hit on another Nigger............ - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:30:26] <exec> 08└─How the fuck is this news, when Obama and Osama are both brown-as-shit Niggers? Of course one of them killed the other one, it's what Niggers do!
[07:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Nigger ordered a hit on another Nigger......... - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:28] <exec> 08└─Desperation and trolling rarely produce quality results. Try a little harder next time.
[07:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Nigger ordered a hit on another Nigger......... - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 8918 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:30] <exec> 08└─Quality means high word count, right? Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service. INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER. You should install your nigger differently accordin...
[07:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Dork. - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:31] <exec> 08└─Copy and paste? Really? The only reaction you're Gonna get from that is a fart noise.
[07:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Fucker - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:33] <exec> 08└─Good, you recognize copypasta. Now mod it up, asshole. Aren't you one of those stupid fuckers who likes familiar shit just because it's familiar?
[07:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02and then the SEAL team got lost - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:30:34] <exec> 08└─and murdered Obama bin Laden by mistake. Oops, sorry, The Man. Shit, now we ain't gonna get paid.
[07:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Are the daughters married yet? - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:30:36] <exec> 08└─Why not?
[07:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Are the daughters married yet? - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:38] <exec> 08└─In my tribe, as soon as daughters are born. they are married to older men in arranged marriages. You see, as soon as the husband sticks his dick into the mouth of his baby girl wife she instinctively sucks it. This is the best age for girls to be married, when they are babies.
[07:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are the daughters married yet? - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:39] <exec> 08└─Lol. Go back to /hebe/
[07:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:30:41] <exec> 08└─Where's the part about bin Laden being on Bush's payroll the whole time, and his contract said his death was supposed to be faked, but Obama killed him for real?
[07:30:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02perhaps if i distilled it first - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:53] <exec> 08└─passed the vapor through a micropore filter.
[07:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:perhaps if i distilled it first - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:54] <exec> 08└─Too late. The GPS is in your air. Haven't you seen Revolution?
[07:30:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:56] <exec> 08└─They now put gps tracking in pill bottles specifically to catch thieves. My local pharm removes the gps tracker before handing over a perscription. Locally they have caught more than 20 thieves this way. They just don't advertise it. Apparently the thieves are quite surprised when the cops turn up w...
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[07:30:57] <exec> 08└─plus.l.google.com groups.l.google.com googleadapis.l.google.com fonts.googleapis.com or just l.google.com or just go for the kill and get off the addiction google.com
[07:31:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Shot to the head - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:31:12] <exec> 08└─I dare you to leave this on the screen until your mom sees it when she comes down to tidy up the basement. The worst case scenario is we won't hear from you for two weeks.
[07:31:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Damn rit! - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:31:18] <exec> 08└─Would learn them right good!
[07:32:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:32:14] <exec> 08└─What's the point in replying to your own post as though you are a different AC? I note, however, that you got modded appropriately - Troll!.
[07:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How do you cite that? - 06Research Paper With 2863 Authors Expands Knowledge of Bacteriophages - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:35:34] <exec> 08└─That's true only for the main text, not the references/bibliography/works cited section. You must provide a full biblio entry, at least for all journals I'm aware of.
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[08:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obama can do no wrong. - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:30:31] <exec> 08└─What a time to be alive. I want to vote for Omaba twenty more times. Stuff that ballot box. Stuff it like a fat chick at a buffet.
[08:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:30:42] <exec> 08└─but Obama killed him for real?
[08:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:30:43] <exec> 08└─If you want to do a proper conspiracy theory, why not tie in the burial at sea with a faked killing? No body, no proof that he actually died, and then the actor can go onto his next job (or retire somewhere - presumably he made a lot on this one). Of course, if this were posted by someone other than...
[08:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02But did Navy SEALS use Linux? - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:30:45] <exec> 08└─Inquiring nerds demand to know whether Linux was used in Obama's greatest crowning achievement of his entire life: terminating that rogue /bin/laden that everybody was told to hate.
[08:30:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But did Navy SEALS use Linux? - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:30:46] <exec> 08└─More importantly, did the linux distro have systemd?
[08:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If you Treasure Freedom - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:30:48] <exec> 08└─Thank a Veteran. Remember, Tyranny is Liberty, and Murder is Life. Join the US Army today, and you too can Murder a Raghead for the GLORY of OBAMA.
[08:30:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02Its a company phone. - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 470 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:30:58] <exec> 08└─That Iphone was issued by the company. Myrna is paying a humongous cost for personal use of that phone. Carry the business phone only when on company time. When one is on company time, one has to do what they are told to do. Leave the thing in the desk when you leave. Use your private personal phone...
[08:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On call vs stalker boss - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:31:00] <exec> 08└─While such stalking is IMHO unacceptable, I also notice that if she was not on call, there was no reason for her to keep the phone switched on while off-hour. She can buy a private phone for her private stuff, which would not have that app installed. So unless she actually wanted to provoke a case,...
[08:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:31:08] <exec> 08└─OK, but then there will still be the GPS in your shirt, your trousers and your underpants. And if you remove all of that, you're guaranteed to get into trouble.
[08:31:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:31:10] <exec> 08└─Or (more likely) until all of the active pharmacy thieves learned to remove the GPS before taking the bottle with them.
[08:31:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:31:12] <exec> 08└─The prescription meds were in bulk packs for distribution to the pharmacy, not patient packaging. So, Michael, get back on your meds, and maybe read a little more carefully.
[08:32:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:32:06] <exec> 08└─Complete with advertising on the fridge door..
[08:32:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Another hipster buzzword bingo - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:32:09] <exec> 08└─* two USB ports - a port that won't be able to handle wires longer than 5 meters and have some serious duplex issues. Nor any good EMI resistance. * Wi-Fi - open invitation to NSA and street hackers * open-source iOS-compatible app - mutable incompatible. Are you kidding me? This fridge seems...
[08:32:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:32:44] <exec> 08└─You're trolling well today. But, to answer your question. 1. If you log in you can set the threshold to whatever level you want - you would not have to keep changing it. It's a 'pain in the ass' because you have chosen to do it that way. 2. Childish posts such as yours - including all the replies to...
[08:32:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02Re:Deja Vu - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:32:47] <exec> 08└─Similar acquisition brought many problems for HP. HP Buys Autonomy for $10.3 Billion, Plans Spinoff of PC Unit: http://www.bloomberg.com [bloomberg.com] Hewlett-Packard faces $1bn lawsuit from shareholder...
[08:32:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Noob central here - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:32:58] <exec> 08└─Facebook is the new noob central now that AOL is obsolete? ;-)
[08:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Welllllllll . . . - 06Assange Appeal Rejected by Sweden's Supreme Court - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:36:20] <exec> 08└─It may be that if Assange surrendered to the court a few years ago and got convicted, he'd be a free man by now or soon. They wouldn't give him too much for a debatable rape.
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[09:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Cache coherent? - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:30:33] <exec> 08└─What configurations can be powered at the same time? The early Samsung A7/A15 big.LITTLE configurations messed up the cache coherency, so you could only run the 4 A7s or the 4 A15s, but the later ones allowed you to mix and match (e.g. 2 A7s and one A15), as long as you kept within the power / heat...
[09:30:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:30:55] <exec> 08└─From BBC, "It also didn't take long before some of Hersh's fellow journalists began questioning the story, most notably Max Fisher of Vox" which is the first link
[09:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:30:56] <exec> 08└─Max Fisher, who goes straight for the ad-hominem, and has a track record of...? Hersh, who revealed My Lai 40 years ago, and exposed Abu Ghraib torture including photos. Point: Sy Hersh Penalty: Max Fisher
[09:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Of course! - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:31:00] <exec> 08└─Yes, it had systemd...what else could they have used to kill him with? A gun? No, No, No! If you want "Shock and Awful" then systemd is the WMD to use. The systemd logs can bash skulls like nobody's business, and doesn't attract terrorist attention like gunfire does. Last decade, the popular questio...
[09:31:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Its a company phone. - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 2906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:31:13] <exec> 08└─RTFA It's not that simple. From reading the PDF, the company sounds deeply fucked. 1) She was hired under the explicit understanding that her starting employment date for full-time would be 3 months in the future, or in other words, she didn't have to leave behind her medical insurance from a previo...
[09:31:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Its a company phone. - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:31:14] <exec> 08└─Oddly, the PDF of the court suit never gave reference to the fact of th iPhone being company issued. But i don't think that is terribly germane, when employees are instructed to always carry the phone and never turn it off. Making 7 grand a month she could certainly afford her own iPhone. I would ju...
[09:31:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:here are some more host file entries: - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:31:28] <exec> 08└─Even better, block the complete .com TLD. SoylentNews is on .org, so you won't lose anything important. ;-)
[09:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:toilets that don't need flushing - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:34:35] <exec> 08└─they didn't mention what they did with the toilet paper
[09:36:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Welllllllll . . . - 06Assange Appeal Rejected by Sweden's Supreme Court - 1511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:36:42] <exec> 08└─The status quo is beneficial to the powers that be : being able to continuously represent the man as a criminal, and for as far as it matters, having him locked up at the same time. A trail or not being able to officially accuse him at all would be worse. But apart from that, it is simply human prid...
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[10:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02What's this for? - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:31:04] <exec> 08└─I need my phone to make phonecalls, open a browser and draw a map. I'm not really sure what this is for.
[10:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:What's this for? - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:31:05] <exec> 08└─To concurrently preform all the above with minimal power draw.
[10:31:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mediatek is an infamous GPL violator - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:31:06] <exec> 08└─They're not releasing the modified Linux source code and even relicensing it, both in direct violation of the license. That's something everybody must take into account when dealing with them. And by distributing their code you too will be in violation. And of course it makes little sense to support...
[10:31:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:31:28] <exec> 08└─Fake death? Too obvious a twist - how about if Osama and Obama switched places, and the real Osama had the SEAL team kill the real Obama? Except even that wasn't the real Obama, he's actually a projection of the alien/Illuminati hivemind into the consciousness of the entire country, and then profit!
[10:31:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Would be nice.... - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:31:45] <exec> 08└─http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/ne_zj5pgKDQ/judge-warrantless-airport-seizure-of-laptop-cannot-be-justified [slashdot.org]
[10:32:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:32:03] <exec> 08└─Hah, so the "war on drugs" can actually be of some use! Somebody steals a bunch of pills and the cops turn up and arrest them. The same thief steals your $700 phone, so you visit the local cop shop and show them on a map where the bad guy is right now. The cop looks at you quizzically and says "yeah...
[10:32:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:32:04] <exec> 08└─Just say that you've got the impression that the thieve seemed to have withdrawal symptoms, and is likely going to exchange the phone for some drugs. ;-)
[10:32:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:stating the obvious - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:32:10] <exec> 08└─Not permitted. They were required to have the phone on them and powered up.
[10:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The USB ports are inside? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 982 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:09] <exec> 08└─USB ports and some sort of rack or hollow on the outside of the door to hold and charge phones, tablets, etc. might have been useful, but what kind of USB device would you put in a fridge? Camera - its just as easy to open the thing as it is to access a video stream. The Cambridge Coffee Pot cam was...
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[11:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02At least SoylentNews is honest - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:36] <exec> 08└─> "If you are not paying for it, you are the product." Then you consider this site's tagline: "SoylentNews is people". It's true.
[11:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Re:At least SoylentNews is honest - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:30:37] <exec> 08└─I guess so: the value of the site is in the users' comments, after all.
[11:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Important Ability - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:39] <exec> 08└─I don't worry too much about most of the information I share but I think that it's very important that we retain the ability to have the privacy we wish (whether we use it or not at any specific time), as well as the knowledge of the downsides of giving up your privacy.
[11:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:41] <exec> 08└─I figure that loyalty cards aren't necessary to track you. Retailers have POS data from payments - unless you take wads of cash to Wal-Mart! - and your purchases, so they can data mine that if they want to. Wal-Mart doesn't have loyalty cards and is probably the most sophisticated retailer for big d...
[11:30:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:1) 02Like everything it cuts both ways - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:42] <exec> 08└─The data is being gathered so it's OK to be paranoid. The thing is, do you really think that these private companies have the ability to actually use this data? Facebook gives them some nice centralisation but when your data is spread across several hundred companies that are all competing with each...
[11:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02"Am I being unreasonably paranoid?" - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:44] <exec> 08└─I don't know. For instance, do you use a smart-phone/mobile device? If positive, you are not paranoid enough. Besides, can one be reasonable paranoid this days?
[11:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Chilling effect - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:45] <exec> 08└─Near the dawn of the internet I wrote a (paper) letter to the editor of a (paper) newspaper, and it got published with my real name. It still shows up when I google myself decades later. Unfortunately, I strongly expressed a political opinion. More unfortunately, I used a phrase which today has acqu...
[11:30:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Richelieu - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:47] <exec> 08└─"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu
[11:30:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02adblock plus? - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:49] <exec> 08└─Adblock plus tracks you. Try µBlock its actually an ad free adblocker ;) µBlock enables all the necessary block filters by default. Search adblock plus Eyeo GmbH accusations against AdBlock Plus etc...
[11:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02How long... - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:57] <exec> 08└─With so much grunt, how long does it take to drain the juice from... say... a Tesla-motors battery?
[11:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02This is exactly what I said would happen - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:59] <exec> 08└─As mobile goes past "good enough" to insanely overpowered they'll throw more and more cores as a selling point....cores which will either be turned off most of the time to save power or be twiddling their thumbs waiting for useful work. And just like the PC more and more will simply keep what they h...
[11:31:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03SuperCharlie [2939] (Score:2) 02They could never gather all your data - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:31:26] <exec> 08└─Wait.. Wrong nut job conspiracy theory.
[11:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Filter Error - 06*Breaking* Another Earthquake in Nepal - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:36:15] <exec> 08└─Not to mention that understanding the geology and tectonic plate dynamics could prevent or at least mitigate future human suffering... Silly AC. Lots of those about recently.
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[12:30:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:30:49] <exec> 08└─I don't worry too much about most of the information I share but I think that it's very important that we retain the ability to have the privacy we wish (whether we use it or not at any specific time), as well as the knowledge of the downsides of giving up your privacy.
[12:30:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1098 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:30:50] <exec> 08└─Things no one will tell you about if they happen. Your interest rate being higher due to some information the credit rating agency found about you which happens to be statistically highly correlated with doing dangerous activities (you yourself don't do those activities, but the statistics says you...
[12:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:30:52] <exec> 08└─and Netflix and Amazon Prime does the same for movie chooses. I already watched the movie and they suggest to me to watch it becuase I saw another moive. Geeh, guys. Now on-line marketers are just as bad. I looked at hard drive, and now they show me hard drive ads. A little too late. That goes for...
[12:30:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:30:54] <exec> 08└─> The only way to really opt out of tracking is to use cash only, and almost no one carries huge wads of cash around to make basic purchases. It really isn't that hard. The times you need an actual "huge wad of cash" are pretty rare. Most of the time a couple of hundred bucks is more than enough. An...
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[12:30:56] <exec> 08└─Retailers have POS data from payments - unless you take wads of cash to Wal-Mart!
[12:30:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Justin Case [4239] 02Chilling effect - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1303 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:58] <exec> 08└─Near the dawn of the internet I wrote a (paper) letter to the editor of a (paper) newspaper, and it got published with my real name. It still shows up when I google myself decades later. Unfortunately, I strongly expressed a political opinion. More unfortunately, I used a phrase which today has acqu...
[12:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:3, Insightful) 02my answers - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 2157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:01] <exec> 08└─As for web-browsing, I'm fairly similar to you: Iceweasel, Ghostery, RequestPolicy, NoScript, HTTPS Everywhere. Incidentally I no longer use ad blocking extensions - it doesn't seem to be required with the other extensions - which I find amusing, since most ads come from farms, scripts and redirects...
[12:31:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:1) 02Nothing wrong with a healthy level of paranoia - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:03] <exec> 08└─It's when you break out the tinfoil hat that it starts to become unhealthy. I have multiple email accounts, and online pseudonyms, some of which share the same signup email account, some which do not. I use multiple browsers with different addons that run on different screen at different resolutions...
[12:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02well - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:04] <exec> 08└─worrying about loyalty cards is a bit lala. Ofc they are going to datamine the data, why else would they collect it! Addons... there are more ways of identifying a browser uniquely then meets the eye. Requestpolicy and disable js/canvas/GL... you gonna have to recompile your browser from source (i a...
[12:31:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03goody [2135] (Score:2) 02Article Material - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:45] <exec> 08└─Is Soylent going to cover unverifiable right wing nut job conspiracy theories regularly? We already have World Net Daily, the Drudge Report, Michael Savage, and Fox News (to name a few) who are providing 7x24 coverage of these.
[12:31:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03SacredSalt [2772] 02Would be nice.... - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 83 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:53] <exec> 08└─It would be nice to see a privacy ruling actually go in favor of privacy in the US.
[12:31:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:Its a company phone. - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 2906 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:31:59] <exec> 08└─RTFA It's not that simple. From reading the PDF, the company sounds deeply fucked. 1) She was hired under the explicit understanding that her starting employment date for full-time would be 3 months in the future, or in other words, she didn't have to leave behind her medical insurance from a previo...
[12:32:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:32:17] <exec> 08└─Imaging the someday, our shoes will all come with built-in GPS.
[12:32:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tathra [3367] 02stating the obvious - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 763 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:18] <exec> 08└─just leave the company-issued iPhone at work. since the phone is company property, and they'll make the argument that they're tracking their property, not their employees, i find it very likely the courts will rule in favor of Intermex. so the only option for those Intermex workers that want privacy...
[12:32:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03isj [5249] (Score:1) 02Weirdness in the moderation system - 06Urinating Robot Short-Circuits Google Map Maker - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:54] <exec> 08└─I have been using google map maker, and have seen some weirdness in the data and moderation system. Eg. the building where I live was marked as a hotel, but that hotel hadn't existed for 10 years. But I was unable to remove that label. I could remove the whole building if I so desired (I didn't). So...
[12:34:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Tork [3914] 02You got peanut butter in my chocolate! - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 88 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:06] <exec> 08└─Ah, the reliability of AOL and the customer service of Verizon. A match made in heaven.
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[13:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Gomer Pyle says "sooprise, sooprise, sooprise" - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:28] <exec> 08└─Government contractors want their money flow to continue - what a surprise!
[13:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reversed witch hunt ? - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:29] <exec> 08└─I'm all for privacy and putting the NSA down, but is it just me or that article sounds like a list of people to hang when you, The US People, finally start your revolution?
[13:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Reversed witch hunt ? - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:30:31] <exec> 08└─Works for me. The US used a stack of playing cards with pictures of the most wanted in Sadam's regime when it invaded Iraq the second time. The American people will need a bigger deck. In the meantime I propose a wiki-like dossier on all these people that everyone can contribute to. It can have feed...
[13:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Woolsey… - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:32] <exec> 08└─James Woolsey… Woolsey… Any relation? [wikia.com] j/k
[13:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What do you do with a million dollars? - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:34] <exec> 08└─These turkeys just keep getting fatter and fatter. Seriously, with so much money coming in, how do they even spend it all before they die? And it seems there is a government position for government people AFTER they retire. Wow, no wonder the US economy can't fail. Just keep making up more bullshit...
[13:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Theoretically, what would happen if.... - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:35] <exec> 08└─If I was an invisible man who could walk through walls, and I visited every person listed in the summary and killed him/her.... ....I am curious to know what socio-political effect would be triggered by this action?
[13:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At least SoylentNews is honest - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:30:45] <exec> 08└─"I don't do anything that's THAT interesting." "I've done nothing wrong, so I don't worry about it." You say these are otherwise intelligent people, but that does not seem to be the case. Using such awful logic makes it rather unlikely these people are otherwise intelligent. The third one just shows...
[13:30:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:30:49] <exec> 08└─> The online shop showing you higher prices than it shows to the guy next door because their analysis suggests you've got money to spend, and tend to buy also higher-priced items. FYI: On Orbitz, Mac Users Steered to Pricier Hotels [wsj.com]
[13:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:30:53] <exec> 08└─>The best thing you can do is to simply refuse to shop at stores with loyalty cards. It works well as a short-term weight loss plan, but I can't recommend "simply don't buy groceries" as a lifestyle.
[13:30:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:30:54] <exec> 08└─> It works well as a short-term weight loss plan, but I can't recommend "simply don't buy groceries" as a lifestyle. Here is a short list of places in the USA that sell groceries and do not have loyalty cards, they cover the entire spectrum of pricing: Wal-mart Market Basket Aldi Trader Joes Whole F...
[13:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chilling effect - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:30:59] <exec> 08└─> But some hypothetical entity recording all my (unencrypted? future-decrypted?) traffic today might find something that is unpopular in the future. Hell, it might be unpopular today. Privacy is a tool for self-exploration. It allows us to try on different ideas, different aspects of our personaliti...
[13:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chilling effect - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:31:00] <exec> 08└─You raise an excellent point. Those who claim that they have done nothing interesting have not yet seen any negative consequences to their being tracked. At the moment, the purchase recommendation technology is immature; what happens when they are better able to mine all that data and build a much b...
[13:31:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ezber Bozmak [764] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Richelieu - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:31:02] <exec> 08└─was meant to be that six lines would be enough to contain most letters of alphabet, and therefore be a good source of handwriting for a forger to knock up something truly incriminating in the suspect's own handwriting.
[13:31:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:adblock plus? - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:31:04] <exec> 08└─I couldn't find any information about Adblock Plus tracking its users. There's the controversy about "acceptable ads", and of course the complaint by those who advertise. But nothing I found about them tracking. Can you give something more concrete than just a few search terms?
[13:31:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lentilla [1770] 02my answers - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 2157 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:05] <exec> 08└─As for web-browsing, I'm fairly similar to you: Iceweasel, Ghostery, RequestPolicy, NoScript, HTTPS Everywhere. Incidentally I no longer use ad blocking extensions - it doesn't seem to be required with the other extensions - which I find amusing, since most ads come from farms, scripts and redirects...
[13:31:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Nothing wrong with a healthy level of paranoia - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:31:07] <exec> 08└─Nothing wrong with a hefty level of paranoia
[13:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jbruchon [4473] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Play within the system - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 2120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:09] <exec> 08└─In any system where you want people to not invade your privacy, the greatest goal is to not be the nail that stands out in the first place. Instead of trying to hide (an act which itself makes you stand out) you can skew the data set so that information on you doesn't add up to track you very well....
[13:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You cant hide who you are - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:10] <exec> 08└─The only way to hide from society is not to be a part of it. You cant hide your real life from surveillance, e.g. camera's, rfid product tracking, gps, non-cash credits, employment details, license plates etc. IF someone wants to find out about you they probably can. But privacy is still important,...
[13:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Makes no sense - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:22] <exec> 08└─I don't get big.little. To me it seems that those cores are pretty wasteful. I think this is more about marketing than anything else.
[13:31:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:31:44] <exec> 08└─Dead men tell no tales.
[13:31:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 205 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:31:47] <exec> 08└─Max Fisher, who goes straight for the ad-hominem, and has a track record of...? Hersh, who revealed My Lai 40 years ago, and exposed Abu Ghraib torture including photos. Point: Sy Hersh Penalty: Max Fisher
[13:31:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Article Material - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 1100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:31:55] <exec> 08└─Everybody doesn't live in America and/or watch Faux news. Most organizations (and ALL news organizations) have already been infiltrated by american and israeli agents posing as legitimate hardworking employees/managers, so we need to have redundancy. So that at least some truth gets out to the peopl...
[13:31:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What, this is an expose? - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 933 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:57] <exec> 08└─1. Whether Bin Laden was a "guest" or "prisoner" of the Pakistani ISI is pure semantics. OBL obviously had a good life there and was being protected from the USA, who wanted to kill him. 2. Whether or not the SEALs planned to kill OBL or just bring him in was discussed as an interesting point after...
[13:32:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tftp [806] 02Re:On call vs stalker boss - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 127 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:32:11] <exec> 08└─A GPS track would be really handy in an on call situation for finding who is closest when the poop hits the fan at an odd hour.
[13:33:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Depends ... - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 128 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:37] <exec> 08└─Will Verizon get the floppies or the CDs? At least with the AOL floppies, you had a never ending supply of usable storage media.
[13:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I got a solution! - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:14] <exec> 08└─"Stop drinking my moat, you bastards!"
[13:36:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] 02Filter Error - 06*Breaking* Another Earthquake in Nepal - 167 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:42] <exec> 08└─I thought this [bbc.com] was pretty interesting. It looks like the big mountains have dropped on the order of a meter, and the Kathmandu has risen by a similar amount.
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[14:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02If they can get the non-skid coating right... - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:26] <exec> 08└─...they may have something. From TFA: The coating on the solar cells' protective glass tends to peel off when the weather changes, for example, suggesting that the path could be expensive to maintain as-is." (The press release said that at the end of December 2014 and in early Spring of 2015 a small...
[14:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:27] <exec> 08└─Roadbeds are approximately the worst place to put solar panels, when you compare with: - Rooftops - Lampposts - Cantilevered off of walls - Open fields - New structures built over parking lots (added bonus: the cars and people there get shade and/or rain protection) Although much less of a problem w...
[14:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:29] <exec> 08└─I think maybe what they're aiming for is aesthetics. Get all the solar panels down in a way that looks nice. That and bragging rights.
[14:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:1) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:31] <exec> 08└─While I agree with the facts of your post, I can't and don't agree with your conclusion. It isn't stupid, because the government doesn't own very much of any of the things that you have listed. What they own a ton of is the asphalt that we drive/walk/bike on. Trying to make that resource more effect...
[14:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Theoretically, what would happen if.... - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:43] <exec> 08└─A five minute power vacuum while the system waits for the next batch of cretins to rise to the top ?
[14:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03khchung [457] (Score:2) 02So, people speak up for their own interest - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:44] <exec> 08└─Is anyone surprised?
[14:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:So, people speak up for their own interest - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:46] <exec> 08└─I'm still getting over the fact the sun comes up *every* morning!!
[14:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:01] <exec> 08└─Is that a serious question? The government could identify you as a person of interest and you find yourself on the bad side of our legal system, even if you did nothing truly wrong. Even if they don't succeed, the entire experience will likely leave severe mental scars and possibly property damage (...
[14:31:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:02] <exec> 08└─An ex-coworker, ex-lover, or college classmate who happens to work at TheSocialNetwork.com decides to have a look at your browsing/purchasing/phone call/forum posting activity just for yucks. A company hires a PI to do a background check on you, and someone at the PI firm discovers some curious stuf...
[14:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tadas [3635] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:08] <exec> 08└─....Shopper's Food Warehouse......
[14:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Like everything it cuts both ways - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:12] <exec> 08└─the ability of government to use it to intimidate members of the public
[14:31:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickFortune [3267] (Score:1) 02Re:"Am I being unreasonably paranoid?" - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:14] <exec> 08└─Besides, can one be reasonable paranoid this days?
[14:31:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Richelieu - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:20] <exec> 08└─It doesn't really matter, because it can be taken to mean either thing.
[14:31:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:my answers - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:24] <exec> 08└─Heinlein's Friday had a better idea, I think, that anticipated this situation: don't try to have no data trail, but rather project an innocuous one. Use your trackable means to buy diapers and dog food at CostCo, pay cash (Bitcoin?) for things you want to remain anonymous. I have a Facebook account,...
[14:31:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:my answers - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:26] <exec> 08└─I simply say "I'm not that special"
[14:31:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Play within the system - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:30] <exec> 08└─> As for loyalty cards, fill their stupid forms out with a bunch of bullshit and use them to get discounts Many stores require ID to sign up for a loyalty card. They aren't that stupid. > Who cares if the store has a record of Anonymous Coward buying five boxes of condoms, a pack of straight razor...
[14:31:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Play within the system - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:32] <exec> 08└─It is not impossible that they would not have thought of people poisoning the well, and may have things in place to make sure that doesn't happen, or can be tracked to individuals doing the poisoning.
[14:31:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03ThG [4568] (Score:1) 02Paranoia.. - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:33] <exec> 08└─It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
[14:31:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Examples - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:35] <exec> 08└─I'm hard-pressed to explain any negative consequences to otherwise intelligent people.
[14:31:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03anti-NAT [4232] (Score:1) 02Re:What's this for? - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:31:45] <exec> 08└─Not for you.
[14:32:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:What, this is an expose? - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:32:21] <exec> 08└─2. Whether or not the SEALs planned to kill OBL or just bring him in was discussed as an interesting point after the raid occurred, but really, Americans don't really care. OBL was killed; that's probably a better solution than bringing him back to the USA, which would inflame Islamists worldwide.
[14:32:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What, this is an expose? - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:32:22] <exec> 08└─What could happen is that any major US politician, or large group of tourists, would be a target of kidnapping overseas, as a potential hostage swap for OBL. I suspect that probably came up in the pre-raid planning.
[14:32:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:GPS Everywhere - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:32:48] <exec> 08└─Only in the land of prudes : )
[14:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not feminine or masculine - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:20] <exec> 08└─It is interesting how certain activities get classified as "for boys/girls" or "for children/adults". Anyone have an idea how skateboarding became a boy thing in the West?
[14:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:2) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:33:51] <exec> 08└─Other than that, it may let you know if something is amiss... like one of your kids did not close the door - or maybe the temperature is not right.
[14:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:33:56] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing it's just a way to extract more revenue from owners through a combination of planned hardware obsolescence, and a subscription model to whatever online "service" is required to keep the fridge running. For owners, the benefits over a traditional fridge will be minimal beyond a "gee whiz...
[14:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03everdred [110] (Score:2) 02Re:Depends ... - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:34:12] <exec> 08└─It sounds as if you won.
[14:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Verizon tries hard - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:50] <exec> 08└─Verizon: trying hard to be as hated as Comcast
[14:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Or deregulate, and solve the problem instantly? - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:35:44] <exec> 08└─The invisible hand exists only the jerk off politicians and the rich.
[14:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Water, like out the toilet? - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:35:48] <exec> 08└─Never has this statement been more accurate.
[14:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Naturally filtered - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:36:10] <exec> 08└─Except those examples are all bullshit and you know it.
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[15:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:30] <exec> 08└─It isn't stupid, because the government doesn't own very much of any of the things that you have listed.
[15:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:31] <exec> 08└─In the past, many have laughed at new scientific developments but fortunately that did not deter the people doing the groundbreaking work. True, currently there are easier and more effective ways of collecting solar power, but I can't think of any that exploit road and path surfaces. There are obsta...
[15:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03erichill [658] (Score:2, Informative) 02Still Half As Efficient As Rooftop Installations - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:32] <exec> 08└─Dave has a great video blog [eevblog.com] to review the results.
[15:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Informative) 02Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 1323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:34] <exec> 08└─I swear, journalists get even dumber, when they are reporting about green technology. Others have already pointed out why this is a stupid idea, unless all of the decent locations for solar cells are already taken, because it reduces the efficiency of the solar cells by a factor of 3 compared to a n...
[15:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 1148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:36] <exec> 08└─But you are not thinking long term. How much did the first desktop computer cost? I have a 5Mb hard drive (yes - 5Mb) that cost several hundreds of pounds when I bought it. How much does a hard drive cost today? How much were you prepared to pay for your first LCD screen, and how does it compare in...
[15:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03gargoyle [1791] (Score:1) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:37] <exec> 08└─How much does the road cost to build without solar panels? The difference between the same section of road done normally and with solar panels is the true cost that you need to compare with the income from the roads although it will still be a horrendously bad payback.
[15:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:39] <exec> 08└─To be fair, the cost is inflated by the fact that this is the first installation of its kind (and probably a bit of old-school corruption). If someone gets serious about mass-producing these things, the price will come down. But it still won't be enough. These panels make 1/3 as much energy as roof...
[15:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:41] <exec> 08└─It's an experiment. Sometimes we learn more from the stupid experiments that the elegant ones.
[15:30:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:Reversed witch hunt ? - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 502 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:48] <exec> 08└─Works for me. The US used a stack of playing cards with pictures of the most wanted in Sadam's regime when it invaded Iraq the second time. The American people will need a bigger deck. In the meantime I propose a wiki-like dossier on all these people that everyone can contribute to. It can have feed...
[15:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:1) 02Re:So, people speak up for their own interest - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:55] <exec> 08└─...so far.
[15:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So, people speak up for their own interest - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:56] <exec> 08└─Wow wow dude... where the heck do you live? It's been at least a month over here without sunshine... (I really have to ask them penguins about that, they may know something)
[15:30:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:58] <exec> 08└─If I spent my entire career in the military or with some spooky three-letter-agency and I eventually retire, start my own business or get a new job wouldn't it kind of make sense to start one or get one in the field that I actually have knowledge in? Most people when they switch jobs switch job and...
[15:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:00] <exec> 08└─> governmenthatingaxe govern men that in gaxe ? What's a gaxe?
[15:31:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Wootery [2341] 02Re:At least SoylentNews is honest - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 71 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:08] <exec> 08└─I guess so: the value of the site is in the users' comments, after all.
[15:31:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1098 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:12] <exec> 08└─Things no one will tell you about if they happen. Your interest rate being higher due to some information the credit rating agency found about you which happens to be statistically highly correlated with doing dangerous activities (you yourself don't do those activities, but the statistics says you...
[15:31:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1085 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:15] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the NY City cop, Gilberto Valle who used a Federal database to stalk women he planned to kill and eat -- the conviction has been overturned, but not on the database charges. Anyway, the women he stalked -- I believe he even had lunch or met with one -- may have had an internet history c...
[15:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:23] <exec> 08└─Not quite correct. Target while not having a card has something probably more egregious, a smartphone app called cartwheel [target.com] that gives you discounts on a rotating subset of things. I tried it and there are very few things that I get a discount on as I don't buy much of any premade food....
[15:31:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:24] <exec> 08└─Some ways to get the discount without being a _good_ loyalty card customer. #1: Jenny's got you covered. Enter Jenny's phone number in the form of: [your_area_code] 867-5309 https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] The hard part is not saying it as 8675-309. The worst part is that s...
[15:31:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:26] <exec> 08└─> Some ways to get the discount without being a _good_ loyalty card customer. Read the 2nd linked WSJ article. It is generally against your interest to even walk into a place that uses loyalty card schemes because the pricing on all the stuff that is not discounted today is way too high. So unless y...
[15:31:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:27] <exec> 08└─You don't have to give up information to get the discount cards. I carry several in my car. The cashiers hand them out after they ask, "are you a member?", then give you a mail in form or a page with a website for you can fill in the info later. I never fill in the info. I've been using Safeway, Rit...
[15:31:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Like everything it cuts both ways - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:30] <exec> 08└─If someone tries to intimidate members of the government then they will be labeled as a terrorist and the government will come down hard on them whenever possible. The government has infrastructure to handle mass protests and are able to monitor and cut them short before they become big. The governm...
[15:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chilling effect - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:36] <exec> 08└─So the judge realized the charges were nonsense, and told you to plead guilty to something you didn't do? What? The attorney should lose their job for filing false charges and you should be able to sue them for everything they have.
[15:31:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Chilling effect - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:37] <exec> 08└─You clearly don't understand the legal system. Trials are not a means to find truth, they are a casino where sometimes you win and sometimes you lose and the results are often predicated on the most random facts you can imagine. Worse, in criminal trials the stakes are so high that losing is not an...
[15:31:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chilling effect - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:39] <exec> 08└─Now suppose I ran for political office. Opponents could use this to discredit me. Even if they found statements that represent me accurately, anything can be taken out of context.
[15:31:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:adblock plus? - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:44] <exec> 08└─µMatrix is also a fantastic script blocker for Chrome as well.
[15:31:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:my answers - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:48] <exec> 08└─I like Watterson's data poisoning suggestion [blogspot.com].
[15:31:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Play within the system - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:54] <exec> 08└─I've never been asked for ID to get a loyalty card so this tactic, using a new card every time, is a pretty good one. Plus it annoys the cashier, and people in line, making the entire shopping experience at the store worse, which is bad for business, good for saying Fuck-Loyalty-Cards, while getting...
[15:32:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03archshade [3664] (Score:1) 02Re:What's this for? - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 2092 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:32:06] <exec> 08└─Although I don't see much need for a phone with such power I can imagine a phone sized device where this would be useful What I am thinking of is a simple small "compute block". This device has a single physical power and high speed interconnect (think multi lane TB). Inside the block there is a sma...
[15:32:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03goody [2135] 02Article Material - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 227 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:32:41] <exec> 08└─Is Soylent going to cover unverifiable right wing nut job conspiracy theories regularly? We already have World Net Daily, the Drudge Report, Michael Savage, and Fox News (to name a few) who are providing 7x24 coverage of these.
[15:33:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:On call vs stalker boss - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:33:02] <exec> 08└─What I want to know is when did on call become "must be tracked 24/7 to collect blackmail data and anyone complaining is fired."
[15:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shot to the head - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:33:33] <exec> 08└─They see me [en]rolling, they hatin'
[15:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gewg_, how do you rationalize this? - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:34:50] <exec> 08└─You were asking for this to get modded -1 Disagree, you know.
[15:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Must be lots left - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:16] <exec> 08└─No "person" is getting a check when a public company buys another public company. But clearly the stockholders of the overvalued company are the winners. As long as they get out before the jig is up and the new combined company has to do a big writeoff. People should be especially aware of this sinc...
[15:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Noob central here - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:22] <exec> 08└─Being obsolete wasn't AOL's problem. Their customers dying off, now that was a problem.
[15:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:toilets that don't need flushing - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:47] <exec> 08└─Changing all the toilets to flushless would at most do about as much as improving water use in agriculture by 1%. Agricultural use of water in California dwarfs domestic use: http://www.water.ca.gov [ca.gov] In average year California agriculture irrigates 9.6 mill...
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[16:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02It's the interpretation, stupid - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 919 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:28] <exec> 08└─The majority of this is directly thanks to "journalists" (I use the term loosely) in the mainstream media who blow every new finding out of proportion with completely unfounded speculation. Hypothetical example: Rats who got thinner when fed an all-protein diet, in a sterile microenvironment where t...
[16:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02CALL POISON CONTROL! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:29] <exec> 08└─I JUST ATE A VEGAN! Will I starve to death, now?
[16:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:CALL POISON CONTROL! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:31] <exec> 08└─Cows are good eats, you'll be OK. Look out for those cows who were fed the brains of downer cows. The UK had some fun with that a decade or two ago, didn't turn out well. Then again those were technically cannibal cows not vegan cows.
[16:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03SrLnclt [1473] (Score:2) 02Studies and Fad Diets - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:32] <exec> 08└─After seeing news about enough studies and too many fad diets coming and going I started to tune it all out as noise. Nearly all foods can have positive effects on parts of your health. Nearly all foods can have negative effects on parts of your health. Rather than get worked up about what I am eati...
[16:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:34] <exec> 08└─It's complete bullshit, of course. The big 3: fats, carbs, and protein, they still occupy the same role they did since before I was born. Moderate the first 2 because of calories, eat the third proportional to intended muscle gain. A 2000 calorie diet is still reasonable. Target amounts of vitamins...
[16:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Most of the US "diet industry" is corrupt - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 1905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:36] <exec> 08└─Just look at all the drivel and crap you see in the mass media on food and diets. 20 ways to X. 10 benefits of Y. blah-blah. This study/article/editorial brought to you by our sponsors. The Food Pyramids were brought to you by the US Department of _AGRICULTURE_ not health. That's why so many of you...
[16:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Lifestyle not health - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:37] <exec> 08└─Those studies, in turn, become fodder for newspaper articles, books and blog posts.
[16:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Who's this we? - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:39] <exec> 08└─Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong
[16:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:3, Interesting) 02All Studies Are The Same! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 986 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:40] <exec> 08└─Basically, every study I see is the same, consisting of ee-threasy steps: 1. They find a a correlation between two things 2. Imply but don't actually say there is a causal relationship between the two 3. End by saying that more studies should be done to investigate further You can basically explain...
[16:30:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:51] <exec> 08└─You forgot the most obvious one: awnings.
[16:30:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:55] <exec> 08└─I have a 5Mb hard drive (yes - 5Mb) that cost several hundreds of pounds when I bought it. How much does a hard drive cost today?
[16:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 1036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:57] <exec> 08└─No, no, they said 5Mb - so only 0.625MB, or 640kB. Several hundred pounds seems a bit steep for only a few floppies worth of capacity, but maybe they really needed the speed... /snark I agree that, at the moment, this technology doesn't make financial sense - but it's first-gen technology. I guarant...
[16:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 1874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:59] <exec> 08└─Locally the "rails to trails" and similar groups publish reports and going from "flat-ish landscape" to paved trail is a decent fraction of a million per mile. Usually expressed as cost per lineal foot so $75/foot for something that'll be a couple feet wide and need some bulldozer work and a roadbed...
[16:31:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 1273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:31:02] <exec> 08└─I'm betting it's north of $1200/m2 for the installation. Just pouring a square meter or square yard of concrete here in the US is around $100-300. Then add the panels, inverters, wiring, glass, and labour for that. Then we have the glass which will scratch and wear over time blocking light. Even scr...
[16:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:31:22] <exec> 08└─government hating axe The Intercept is grinding it's axe. It's governmenthatingaxe.
[16:31:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Redundant post - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:23] <exec> 08└─Almost everyone has already said it - WTF else did you expect? The people mentioned in the story are lesser leaders, who believe that they are greater leaders by virtue of leading from the shadows. But, no matter how you look at it, they are in it for themselves, and/or for their family's benefit. T...
[16:31:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 2283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:31:39] <exec> 08└─And because most of this data is kept in various aggregated databases with no oversight, there is absolutely no route for complaint or correction. Hypothetical: 1) LazyCollector Inc gets you and your father conflated because you have the same name (plus or minus a "Jr.") and lived under the same roo...
[16:31:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:31:43] <exec> 08└─I don't know. Post your SSN and bank account numbers here and we will get back to you on this. Also, let us know about your family details, sexual orientation, religion, home address and if you have ever made any comments supporting any of the following: Socialism, Gun Rights, Censorship, Video Game...
[16:32:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Richelieu - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:32:08] <exec> 08└─none of them sound like it refers to handwriting.
[16:32:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:my answers - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:32:17] <exec> 08└─It is ironic that I; technically skilled as I am; have to be the one that misses out
[16:33:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Re:Article Material - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 2193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:33:12] <exec> 08└─Is NBC [nbcnews.com] a right-wing news organization too? NBC's sources are different from Hersh's, but they're hearing the same thing. What about The Intercept [firstlook.org], which refers back to an earlier, independent report from 2011 [thespywhobilledme.com] that made many of the same claims Her...
[16:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:The point is? - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:34:46] <exec> 08└─>Those are edge cases that relate to medical equipment. I always struggled to find arguments for IoT, but this is the first time an argument really makes sense to me, albeit in a slightly different manner than you perhaps intended: smart fridges make sense in a hospital environment, where expired me...
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[17:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:CALL POISON CONTROL! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:31] <exec> 08└─Except vegan cows wouldn't drink milk, which they all have done. They are definitely vegetarian. Any cow claiming to be vegan should feel a lot of remorse for their past sins.
[17:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the interpretation, stupid - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:32] <exec> 08└─There's plenty of blame for the journalists, but the university press release people are guilty too. When I see a press release about research where I work it usually is hyped to the stars about the possibilities. The scientists don't do that. It's usually the people writing the press release.
[17:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheB [1538] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the interpretation, stupid - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:34] <exec> 08└─Relevant comic http://www.smbc-comics.com [smbc-comics.com]
[17:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:38] <exec> 08└─We all know what makes for a reasonably healthy diet: 1. Eat things that you can reasonably follow the steps from living creature to food. Avoid complex and and secret processing that happens before you ever see the item. 2. Eat more plants than meat. 3. Don't eat too much. Follow those 3 rules, and...
[17:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:39] <exec> 08└─eat fermented foods, since many naturally occurring gut microbes are removed from our foods due to preservatives, etc.
[17:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:41] <exec> 08└─Are you possibly suggesting an all beer diet? It'll be a big sacrifice, but I'm willing to give a try.
[17:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:42] <exec> 08└─Salt fucks with your blood pressure.
[17:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:All Studies Are The Same! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:46] <exec> 08└─1.5: Point out that one of the things from #1 happens to make up a small percentage of something attention grabbing like chocolate, wine, etc.
[17:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:All Studies Are The Same! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 680 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:48] <exec> 08└─Yes, and no. There are a great number of correlational studies but there are also a lot of experimental manipulation studies. Dosage and context matter. Carrots may be good for you, but not concentrate of 10,000 carrots. A diet of just carrots is probably not healthy either. Also your argument about...
[17:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:00] <exec> 08└─You forgot Poland.
[17:31:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:01] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you are looking at it backwards. Solar panels are a good place to put roads! By increasing the foundation required for the surface, this might be a more durable solution than current roads. Coming from Michigan I would be on board of solar roads if they meant no potholes.
[17:31:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:03] <exec> 08└─While I cannot disagree with most of your premises your conclusion is faulty. You realise that testing parallel ideas are still valid even when there are better alternatives, right? I have seen cynics aplenty rave on how solar will "never work" because there is not enough surface area. Well, here is...
[17:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:10] <exec> 08└─5mb hard drive? Luxury! We used to have to make do with 5.25" 100k floppy discs, and we had to cut our own holes in 'em to use 'em double-sided.
[17:31:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:11] <exec> 08└─Sure, mass manufacturing brings down cost and technology improves with time. But I think the problem that most people are pointing out is the upfront installation cost (labour can't be mass manufactured) coupled with the long term maintenance costs vs the return. Solar energy on roof tops, or anywhe...
[17:31:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:17] <exec> 08└─This was a one off installation of a small prototype. You cannot POSSIBLY be suggesting that those figures are in any way relevant to its long term viability...?! Maybe it will be, maybe it won't, but it's far too soon to tell. Not to mention the general concept of taking ugly, cheap concrete/iron c...
[17:31:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 1263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:18] <exec> 08└─I'm with the "dumb idea" camp. Using the public right of way is a good idea, but driving on glass + some plastic coating just seems bound to fail. Wiring in-ground is another problem -- conduits underground usually fill with water, so the terminations are above ground... What if the same solar cells...
[17:31:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:38] <exec> 08└─What I find most amusing is that your are unwittingly advocating for the "revolving door" which has, along with other forms of greed and corruption, absolutely devastated democracy in the US. And in the out of control, constitution-ignoring, money sucking security fiasco known as the NSA?! Good job...
[17:31:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02the real patriotic truth - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:40] <exec> 08└─traitors
[17:31:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:the real patriotic truth - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:31:42] <exec> 08└─That is most contractors. They don't want efficient, durable, and maintainable systems. They want to suck all the money out of the country.
[17:32:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:02] <exec> 08└─All the other replies to your question are true in at least one case or another. The underlying theme is that you cannot oversee the consequences. You don't know what is revealed about you, and you don't know who has access to those revelations. Case in point: - revealing: Teen pregnancy hidden from...
[17:32:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:12] <exec> 08└─There isn't a single drug store in my area where I can opt out. So I have to play.
[17:32:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:16] <exec> 08└─I am pretty sure I don't need to see your loyalty card stats to know you buy a lot of pizza rolls.
[17:32:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Richelieu - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:30] <exec> 08└─That could also be interpreted as a confession. “Look what he wrote: he confessed this, which leads to this and that, which means he’s a traitor. Off with his head!”
[17:32:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Richelieu - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:31] <exec> 08└─> It does to me. Écrites de la main, lit.: written by the hand. Note that that rules out dictated letters or a report of conversation. That is not the part the part that matters. It is the part about 'j'y trouverai' - lit.: I shall find. You don't 'find' a full alphabet to copy for forgery.
[17:32:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:my answers - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 573 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:38] <exec> 08└─Heinlein's Friday had a better idea, I think, that anticipated this situation: don't try to have no data trail, but rather project an innocuous one. Use your trackable means to buy diapers and dog food at CostCo, pay cash (Bitcoin?) for things you want to remain anonymous. I have a Facebook account,...
[17:32:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:my answers - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:39] <exec> 08└─Wow, dude, you blew my mind. That is a perfect way to look at it. It's been a long time since I read that book -- I think it may be due to a re-read..
[17:32:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:What's this for? - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:54] <exec> 08└─A serious answer! I dig it. Thank you, sir.
[17:34:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02Re:stating the obvious - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 75 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:34:10] <exec> 08└─Not permitted. They were required to have the phone on them and powered up.
[17:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Weirdness in the moderation system - 06Urinating Robot Short-Circuits Google Map Maker - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:34:51] <exec> 08└─Not using mapmaker, I just reported a few small errors on maps in my local area (NE USA). Someone from Google emailed me back within a couple of weeks to tell me they made the changes. They might have even thanked me, have forgotten. This was several years ago, but the "Report a problem" button (tin...
[17:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Must be lots left - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:03] <exec> 08└─Good point. I have no idea how public companies work : /
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[18:30:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:4, Insightful) 02The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:24] <exec> 08└─A boat made of such composites will not sink despite damage to its structure.
[18:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:25] <exec> 08└─Further, a common use for Magnesium is the anode that is sacrificed for anodic corrosion protection. Magnesium structures in sea water might just dissolve? Nice overview here: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu [gsu.edu] http://hyperphysics.phy-astr....
[18:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:27] <exec> 08└─There was a proposal around the time the battleships were decommissioned that ground forces still need naval arty support, so a crazy idea was a pycrete iceberg or styrofoam raft maybe 500 feet in diameter pulled into place with tugs or towed behind the aegis cruiser or whatever. The theory was if y...
[18:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:28] <exec> 08└─I think the idea is closer to styrofoam. If you had a boat made of styrofoam and broke it up into pieces, the pieces would still float. You could smash it up into tiny pieces, and those too would still float. The stuff in the boat, well, that's a different story.
[18:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2, Redundant) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:30] <exec> 08└─There's more to being "unsinkable" than whether the structural material of the vessel is lighter than water. Actually, there really isn't. If the mass of the water displaced by the vessel is greater that the mass of the ship itself, it floats. Heavier that water hulls increase displacement due t...
[18:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:31] <exec> 08└─A ship made of styrofoam is full of coal. A hole appears in the styrofoam. What happens?
[18:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:33] <exec> 08└─Oh, you mean like a useful payload?
[18:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:35] <exec> 08└─Exactly what I was going to post, except more along the lines of "wanna bet?". The author needs to revisit Archimedes' principle if he thinks that boats float because of any buoyant property of the material they are made of. Fine, all the little bits and pieces of bulkhead that break off will float...
[18:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02tinfoil floats. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:36] <exec> 08└─tinfoil floats. Aircraft carriers float. I didn't RTFA so I'm sure there is something more to it.
[18:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:CALL POISON CONTROL! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:45] <exec> 08└─I'm fairly surely the vegan diet does at least give some kind of dispensation for drinking the milk of your biological parent. After all, it's the responsibility of that parent to make you feel hideously guilty simply for being born some way down the road...
[18:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the interpretation, stupid - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:48] <exec> 08└─How wrong is wrong? The Food Pyramid is considered wrong now. However, for a large percentage of Americans, following it with a 2,000 calorie diet would still be a huge improvement. It is the fundamental nature of science to clarify previous findings.
[18:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:55] <exec> 08└─"Fucks with your blood pressure"!=deadly. It definitely fucks with your blood pressure, by altering the viscousness of your blood. That happens whether you're at risk for heart disease or not. It's just that it's not a serious concern if your heart and circulatory system are healthy.
[18:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:57] <exec> 08└─[...] Salt fucks with your blood pressure. None of that shit has changed.
[18:31:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:All Studies Are The Same! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:03] <exec> 08└─...and we do try to control for other conflating factors.
[18:31:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:20] <exec> 08└─You beat me to the punch with covered parking lots. Our local IKEA in Long Island has parking space covers, but they don't generate electricity, merely shade the spots. Electricity generated from the acreage of parking lots covered by solar cells would be substantial, and may even cut down on the he...
[18:31:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03erichill [658] 02Still Half As Efficient As Rooftop Installations - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 64 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:21] <exec> 08└─Dave has a great video blog [eevblog.com] to review the results.
[18:31:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:28] <exec> 08└─I think the point that you(and others looking at the costs) are missing is this: In it's present state, you may be right, but you are not looking ahead far enough past 'next quarter profits'. When the reality of powered flight came about in the early 1900's, I'm sure you would have been one of the o...
[18:31:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 1234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:58] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure I would classify it as unwittingly since I am aware of the problem. The system isn't perfect, I don't think I claimed that. I think the way I stated it was even quite clear. What I was wondering is why things should be different for people people in the military and the intelligence fie...
[18:31:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:59] <exec> 08└─> If its not wrong for other professional fields to do it I don't see how it would be wrong for these people. Because the government has a monopoly on force and therefore requires much tighter restrictions and accountability that private business does not.
[18:32:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the real patriotic truth - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:04] <exec> 08└─> That is most contractors. They don't want efficient, durable, and maintainable systems. They want to suck all the money out of the country. That sort of black and white thinking guarantees failure of analysis. It might be personally gratifying to express your frustration in those terms but it does...
[18:32:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:2) 02The eternal question - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:32:05] <exec> 08└─In Latin: Cui bono? Using the government to purse personal aims at the expense of the public is as old as government itself - and all the more argument for limiting what government can do. But a surprise? Nah, as we say today, "follow the money".
[18:32:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:At least SoylentNews is honest - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:17] <exec> 08└─The Jews did nothing wrong, still Hitler decided to kill them. Russians did nothing wrong, so Stalin decided to throw them into Gulag. American citizens decided to fight for civil rights using legal means (or at least peaceful), so FBI decided to wreck their life. People that fully legally write abo...
[18:32:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 2283 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:22] <exec> 08└─And because most of this data is kept in various aggregated databases with no oversight, there is absolutely no route for complaint or correction. Hypothetical: 1) LazyCollector Inc gets you and your father conflated because you have the same name (plus or minus a "Jr.") and lived under the same roo...
[18:32:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:23] <exec> 08└─In the past it happens. Buying first house. My father, brothers and I all lived within 60 miles. Our first names all began with the same letter. My father and I have the same name, but I have middle name and he does not. All of us (7 in all) wives' had variations of similar names. My wife and my fat...
[18:32:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:37] <exec> 08└─If you are buying prescription drugs, then check out: http://www.goodrx.com [goodrx.com] At least you can get the cheapest price with or without a card.
[18:32:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:40] <exec> 08└─They've got an unique ID that represents you and your purchases. You don't need to give them your actual phone number to give them information about yourself. Even rotating through several different cards is just obfuscation, e.g. security through obscurity.
[18:32:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chilling effect - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:53] <exec> 08└─You clearly don't understand the legal system.
[18:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:What's this for? - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:16] <exec> 08└─This would be great. If certain quantum/optical coprocessors can't be easily miniaturized to fit on a SoC, they can go in the workstation tower. Just don't lose your smartphone (portable surveillance workstation).
[18:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:This is exactly what I said would happen - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:20] <exec> 08└─I'm seeing more Galaxy IIs and iPhone 4s because "if it ain't broke"
[18:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Makes no sense - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:23] <exec> 08└─The point is to lower power consumption. The scheduler decides which cores to use in real time. If you are playing a game or something, the "big" cluster is used. If you don't need fast computation, the "LITTLE" cluster is used. Except these SoCs can use any combination of cores from the clusters at...
[18:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:49] <exec> 08└─Max Fisher, who goes straight for the ad-hominem, and has a track record of...? This is the first sentence in the article: On Sunday, the legendary investigative journalist Seymour Hersh... Ad-hominem? The first allegation from the article: But his allegations are largely supported only...
[18:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:50] <exec> 08└─If you want to do a proper conspiracy theory, why not tie in the burial at sea with a faked killing?
[18:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:51] <exec> 08└─Of course, if this were posted by someone other than grewg, it would link to...
[18:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:53] <exec> 08└─takyon did heavy editing on gewg_'s original submission, and I looked at it also, to try to get it to be somewhat neutral. We attempted to get different viewpoints in it, and would probably have included your linked article if we'd run across it.
[18:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score:1) 02Re:Its a company phone. - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:17] <exec> 08└─I'm not up on US employment and contract law, but in Canada, changing fundamental work conditions without negotiating a new contract is called "constructive dismissal" and generally lets the employee walk out the door without penalty. Without knowing California case law, I'd guess that a similar pri...
[18:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:stating the obvious - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:41] <exec> 08└─> Not permitted. They were required to have the phone on them and powered up. Now if only people were required to RTFA before posting we could have saved so many wasted posts and wasted mod points.
[18:35:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:This is very disturbing to me - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:35:29] <exec> 08└─I like my women like I like my coffee: Strong, black, ground up and in my freezer. Ugh, what a disgusting and completely inappropriate post! Someone from the left coast should know better! Never freeze your coffee.
[18:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"There are new updates available..." - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:47] <exec> 08└─oh this is cool! now the fridge will alert me when they finally have a model available with magnetic cooling! http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[18:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:2) 02Game it out? - 06"Robotic Squid" Could Explore Europa's Oceans - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:01] <exec> 08└─"In-Space Manufacture of Storable Propellants"... Where have I seen this lately? Playing Kerbal Space Program [kerbalspaceprogram.com] too much. Yep, I just put one of those into orbit around the Mun. (n.b. its a game site so lots of graphical and scripts on the page)
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[19:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Protectionism is complicated - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:25] <exec> 08└─We learned the problems with it in the 1930s. But to say the 1980s-present policy of always reducing trade barriers when possible has worked out positively is pretty uncertain. This comic [economixcomix.com] identifies some potentially problematic elements with the theory that underlies reducing tra...
[19:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02So now do we get to read it? - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:26] <exec> 08└─I mean, we have Elizabeth Warren saying one set of provisions is in it, and Barack Obama saying something different is in it, but the Obama administration isn't letting the general public read it and is allowing Congresscritters to read it only in person and without taking notes. That to me is suffi...
[19:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Be proud. - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:28] <exec> 08└─It shouldn't be about "embarrassing" it should be about democratic process.
[19:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Be proud. - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:30] <exec> 08└─I do wonder though, about the relationship of populism and treaties, which can lead to some perverse incentives. When the founders set down the constitution, the two groups they let have input into treaties were the president and the senate. They left out the house of the ratification process. The h...
[19:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02This is new - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:31] <exec> 08└─say the measure is necessary to complete a 12-nation Pacific trade deal that is a centerpiece of the administration's economic agenda.
[19:30:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 759 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:40] <exec> 08└─There was a proposal around the time the battleships were decommissioned that ground forces still need naval arty support, so a crazy idea was a pycrete iceberg or styrofoam raft maybe 500 feet in diameter pulled into place with tugs or towed behind the aegis cruiser or whatever. The theory was if y...
[19:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:44] <exec> 08└─If I tie an anvil to a chunk of styrofoam would you say styrofome doesn't float?
[19:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:46] <exec> 08└─No, but I'd say it doesn't work as a boat.
[19:30:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:47] <exec> 08└─Imagine a ship made of lighter-than-water material (even with no heavy cargo) in motion across the sea. Then imagine a large hole being ripped in the hull of said ship. The individual pieces of the material that makes up the ship will not sink (absent some additional weight). Whether those pieces wi...
[19:30:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:tinfoil floats. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:50] <exec> 08└─Tin foil is for hats, not boats.
[19:30:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:tinfoil floats. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:52] <exec> 08└─That's what they want you to think.
[19:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Translation Error [718] (Score:1) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:11] <exec> 08└─That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. An all beer diet... There needs to be a steady source of protein along with the beer, such as peanuts or chicken wings.
[19:31:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:12] <exec> 08└─Well, if we're going to include food groups, then obviously adding some wine to get the servings of fruit would be in order.
[19:31:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 36 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:13] <exec> 08└─Salt fucks with your blood pressure.
[19:31:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03rondon [5167] 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 402 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:33] <exec> 08└─While I agree with the facts of your post, I can't and don't agree with your conclusion. It isn't stupid, because the government doesn't own very much of any of the things that you have listed. What they own a ton of is the asphalt that we drive/walk/bike on. Trying to make that resource more effect...
[19:31:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:39] <exec> 08└─Hello Fellow Michiganian! How about building the solar panels OVER the roads or on the median. If you're a Detroit-area fellow like me, you know there are southward facing medians all over I-94, I-696, and I-96 that would be perfect for this. There is already a good size solar array just off of I-96...
[19:32:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Theoretically, what would happen if.... - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:32:11] <exec> 08└─Nothing, except they install mist machines as a defense countermeasure.
[19:32:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:32:21] <exec> 08└─He has the same selfish complex that most whiners here have: if it is something I want or is important to me, it is my right; if it isn't important to ME, it is an abuse of power, socialism, government out of control, etc., etc., etc. I'd bet he'd be out in front of the whiners on something like no-...
[19:32:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:32:23] <exec> 08└─it is an abuse of power
[19:32:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:32:24] <exec> 08└─Nope, I don't. But I'll hazard a guess this is not the first conspiratorial, ad hominem you have engaged in right? Please pick up your knuckles...they are dragging on my carpet.
[19:32:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:32:26] <exec> 08└─If you are aware of the problem that just makes the irony of your statement even more ironic...but I think your understanding of it is somewhat lacking from what you have said. - They are not serving the government, they are serving themselves and their vested interests so your argument there is jus...
[19:32:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:the real patriotic truth - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:32:31] <exec> 08└─I stand by my point of view if we are talking about the industry as a whole. But i think my point fails when looking at the actual engineers who design the systems.
[19:33:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:06] <exec> 08└─Online buying is certainly tracked real good..
[19:33:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not sign up for all those loyalty cards - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:07] <exec> 08└─If you can generate a loyalty card on the fly, you can also screw the system.
[19:33:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Webweasel [567] 02Like everything it cuts both ways - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 1792 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:12] <exec> 08└─The data is being gathered so it's OK to be paranoid. The thing is, do you really think that these private companies have the ability to actually use this data? Facebook gives them some nice centralisation but when your data is spread across several hundred companies that are all competing with each...
[19:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Chilling effect - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:24] <exec> 08└─By that time everybody will be within the party line or be packing their sled as the Russians used to say. In DDR there were a few people around to tell authorities if you uttered anything at anytime as being out of the party line.
[19:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Richelieu - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:30] <exec> 08└─Again, that [i]could[/i] be down to it being a dissembling statement. You don't 'find' a full alphabet to copy for forgery.
[19:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Richelieu - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:33] <exec> 08└─> It doesn't really matter, because it can be taken to mean either thing. It kind of does matter. The forgery interpretation carries with it no insight of the human condition, it is purely a mechanical issue - if you have a large enough writing sample you can forge a letter from the person you are p...
[19:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:What, this is an expose? - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 4456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:33] <exec> 08└─SEYMOUR HERSH: I mean, look, that’s childish. The reality is the Pakistanis told — there were meetings between the head of the Pakistani intelligence service, General Pasha, and Leon Panetta, that I write about. And I write about them based on, well you have to read the article to find out. The...
[19:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02'Medical coverage can be quite easily abused' - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:52] <exec> 08└─that's one of the more significant reasons why I am generally self-employed.
[19:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02'one has to do what one is told' - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:54] <exec> 08└─it is for reasons such as this that there are certain rights one cannot sign away. For a practical example, consider that non-compete agreements are not enforceable in California.
[19:35:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:here are some more host file entries: - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:12] <exec> 08└─With the Internet Archive's WayBackMachine, there's no need for any of that .com stuff. https://archive.org [archive.org]
[19:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02straightforward solution: - 06Worker fired for disabling GPS app that tracked her 24 hours a day. - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:18] <exec> 08└─knock off work for the weekend. Seal the phone in a bottle. You'd need one with a wide mouth, like a mayonnaise jar. Dial 9-1-1, tell them you cannot tolerate your employer anymore, throw the bottle with the phone into the sea, perhaps best near the mouth of a river, or entrance to a bay, like off t...
[19:36:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another hipster buzzword bingo - 06Collaborative Smart Refrigerator "ChillHub" to Debut at 2nd Annual IoT Conference - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:24] <exec> 08└─an 18-cubic-foot top-freezer refrigerator,
[19:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What is the rush? - 06"Robotic Squid" Could Explore Europa's Oceans - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:41] <exec> 08└─Why don't we just send a bunch of DNA from different organisms out there and see what grows? There are probably enough different kinds of extreme niche life here on earth that some will be able to survive. Eventually they will evolve and come and find us, saving us a lot of trouble in the meantime!
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[20:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I have a good reason for supporting free trade - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 1602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:26] <exec> 08└─my father was very anticommunist. He repeatedly asserted that we should embargo all communist nations, as well as all other nations that trade with the communists. I don't think that would have been a good idea. One reason is that if we trade with other countries, we are less likely to go to war wit...
[20:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Tariffs are a double-edged sword - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 1285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:27] <exec> 08└─Do them wrong and you get reprisals from your trading partners (whom you aren't really treating as partners, but as adversaries). in the 1930s Replace your bad trade policies with better trade policies and things get -- wait for it -- better. End of Smoot-Hawley [wikipedia.org] (People who use em da...
[20:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02That sounds unconstitutional to me - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:30] <exec> 08└─there's a good reason that Congress exempts itself from many laws. There's good reason to gripe about them doing so, but one good reason for it is so that the adminstration can't tell Congress what to do. Similarly, the complaints about activist judges are unfounded. The judiciary is a third branch...
[20:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:Be proud. - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:33] <exec> 08└─Well, perhaps with just our senators might be all right. However, this is not the same as expecting congress to give the president authority over the Senate in how the treaty is debated and voted upon. It is high time that Congress reassert themselves over executive over-reach which has occurred ove...
[20:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Be proud. - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:35] <exec> 08└─I like all these beliefs. Shame about the political impossibility of them. If you ever need someone to help campaign for population-representative ratio reforms, because you impossibly found a movement for it, drop me a line. I'm all in.
[20:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Republicans vs. Democrats - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:37] <exec> 08└─As a rule, Republicans (big business, farmers) are in favor of free trade, Democrats (labor) not so much. However, the party lines get blurred. Blue collar "Tea Party" Republicans aren't in favor of these agreements, while white collar Democrats (Silicon Valley, etc) tend to be in favor. Political...
[20:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Republicans vs. Democrats - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:38] <exec> 08└─Maybe, but there's also the conspiracy crowd and the anti-copyright law crowd typically involved in these debates(here at least). I don't feel either of those fall quite so neatly into a leftist/rightist box.
[20:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Republicans vs. Democrats - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:40] <exec> 08└─Silicon Valley's response to TPP has been mixed: http://www.valuewalk.com [valuewalk.com] 25 tech companies send letter to Senator asking him to oppose Trans Pacific Partnership “fast track” Silicon Valley, which vigorou...
[20:30:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"lifting all boats"? Are you on shrooms? - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:41] <exec> 08└─gender and age discrimination is openly practiced in the philippines. So by lifting all boats, you're saying that we would be better off to bring age and gender discrimination to The United States?
[20:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Interesting) 02arbitrators are not judges - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 2487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:43] <exec> 08└─even if they aren't a "corporate friendly tribunal", arbitrators are not appointed by the president with the advice and consent of the senate. I expect they aren't particularly required to abide by common law, which for the most part is determined by court precedent. Perhaps there is some way to app...
[20:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I can see the point to the up-or-down vote - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:45] <exec> 08└─what I object to is that the treaty is negotiated in secret, and that the public won't have enough time to read the final draft of the treaty before the president signs it. SOMEBODY must be privy to the full text of the treaty. Why not you and I?
[20:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:3, Informative) 02Welcome to NAFTA - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 944 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:46] <exec> 08└─"But with ISDS, the company could skip the U.S. courts and go before an international panel of arbitrators [read: corporate-friendly tribunal]. If the company won, the ruling couldn't be challenged in U.S. courts, and the arbitration panel could require American taxpayers to cough up millions--and e...
[20:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Welcome to NAFTA - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:48] <exec> 08└─Americans are all for trade as long as they have the advantage doing it when it comes to actual competition they always rig the game in their favour.
[20:30:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02ORGCon - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:49] <exec> 08└─Last year at ORGcon in London, I watched a discussion about these trade agreements between some very knowledgeable folks and a minor MP who made a complete twit of themselves. It is pretty obvious that ISDS is intended to transfer sovereignty away from national jurisdictions and into the hands of la...
[20:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:00] <exec> 08└─Depends on the shape of the styrofoam
[20:31:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] 02Re:tinfoil floats. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 35 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:06] <exec> 08└─That's what they want you to think.
[20:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Translation Error [718] (Score:1) 02Re:tinfoil floats. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:08] <exec> 08└─Don't try to use it for both. You'll drown.
[20:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02buoyant boat materials - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:09] <exec> 08└─On a related note, the American Society of Civil Engineers holds an annual Concrete Canoe Competition. [asce.org] According to the current rules [asce.org] (see section 2.10 of the Rules PDF), the canoe must be neutrally buoyant or better as judged by intentionally capsizing it and observing that it...
[20:31:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:CALL POISON CONTROL! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:20] <exec> 08└─Well that guilt is easily taken care of, you just have to pay for their retirement.
[20:31:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:CALL POISON CONTROL! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:21] <exec> 08└─Also, a timely post from elsewhere that is somewhat relevant to this conversation http://www.pleated-jeans.com [pleated-jeans.com] No cows though.
[20:31:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02There's a good reason fad diets really do work - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 910 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:27] <exec> 08└─... for a small subset of the population. Consider the cravings that pregnant women get. We all hear about the pickle cravings, actually they get cravings for lots of different things, as the nutritional needs of the child they carry change over time. If you are malnourished, you'll be hungry, but o...
[20:31:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Ever been to santa cruz? - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 1482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:28] <exec> 08└─My ex used to be a waitress. You would think that rural newfoundlanders wouldn't be religious about their diets. Bonita told me that she would never ever again take a job having anything to do with food. The diets I see in santa cruz are really quite interesting. While I expect tempeh is nutritious...
[20:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:35] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately there isn't a whole lot of evidence for your first two points. They just seem reasonable, but then again, that is sort of the whole topic of the article.
[20:31:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:38] <exec> 08└─No. In healthy people their blood pressure does not change with higher salt intake. Or, in your parlance: Fucking wrong. Only a fucking idiot doesn't know how science works. It is obvious that you don't know a goddamn thing. This has been tested and blood pressure does not change with salt intake fo...
[20:31:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:40] <exec> 08└─You self-assured dumbass [bloodpressureuk.org]. It affects one of the most basic functions of biology: osmosis. Your cells take on more water, and though your kidneys and cellular Na-K pumps eventually balance the situation, the short term effects are trivially documented. You fucking goddamn smug i...
[20:31:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:All Studies Are The Same! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:48] <exec> 08└─Who is this we that you speak of? For a sufficiently large 'we' everything you have attempted to refute is true. For other sufficiently large wees, see your doctor.
[20:32:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03pen-helm [837] (Score:1) 02another solar road company - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:08] <exec> 08└─An American company is working on solar cells for roads. They also melt ice. So far they have built a solar parking lot. http://www.solarroadways.com [solarroadways.com]
[20:32:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:14] <exec> 08└─5.25" floppies! You had it easy! We used to use 8" floppies, and to use the other side we had to turn the boxen upside down! 80k, and we liked it!
[20:32:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:22] <exec> 08└─Fine sentiment until you think a nanosecond or two. These idiots are wasting taxpayer dollars, dollars every nation in Western Civilization is currently printing and borrowing to cover up the fact they can no longer tax their citizens enough to keep the welfare state going. There is, almost by defin...
[20:32:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 1406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:53] <exec> 08└─Two out of three bullet-points are true for everyone, the one in the middle is open for interpretation. I believe all these people served the government, they also served themselves as we all do. Everyone has a vested financial interest in their careers, it's not a unique identifier for these people...
[20:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:50] <exec> 08└─i guess hersh will explain the opus dei / knights of malta connection in the next piece pic.twitter.com/LQG31D3jZx [t.co] — Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) May 10, 2015 [twitter.com]
[20:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02c'mon, bro, at least make it believable - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:35:01] <exec> 08└─In a television interview on Monday, Hersh tried to turn the tables, saying that the US account of the operation is the one that's unbelievable. "Twenty-four or 25 guys go in to the middle of Pakistan, take out a guy with no air cover, no protection, no security, with no trouble - are you kidding me...
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[21:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Any non-corporate browsers left? - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:25] <exec> 08└─I'm just going to end up repeating the subject in the body. Thanks filter.
[21:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Any non-corporate browsers left? - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:26] <exec> 08└─Finally, if you don't want DRM in your browser and you don't want to bother with any of the above, Mozilla has made available a separate download that doesn't include the Primetime CDM and has DRM disabled by default.
[21:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Auto-complete can't be turned off for passwords - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:28] <exec> 08└─This is in the release notes: "autocomplete=off is no longer supported for username/password fields" This is the most important change to me. The inability to turn off autocomplete on username and password fields sounds like a huge change. That no one is yelling about means no one really cares, or t...
[21:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Auto-complete can't be turned off for passwords - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:29] <exec> 08└─https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1025703 [mozilla.org]
[21:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Auto-complete can't be turned off for passwords - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:31] <exec> 08└─The relevant quote from the bugzilla page https://bugzilla.mozilla.org [mozilla.org] " Matthew N. [:MattN] 2015-02-17 21:55:21 PST Release Note Request [Why is this notable]: Firefox already ignored autocomplete=off for prompting to remember logins since bug 956906 but now w...
[21:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02vote with your mouse - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:32] <exec> 08└─download this one: http://download.cdn.mozilla.net [mozilla.net] send some money to the FSF. Open Source and Free Software are distinctly different things. Someone on advogato referred to them as "Fellow Travelers". That was the Communist term for two Commun...
[21:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:vote with your mouse - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:34] <exec> 08└─I thought by definition that Open Source == Free Software, but Free Software doesn't necessarily mean Open Source. What is the rationale behind Open Source != Free Software?
[21:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm preparing the popcorn - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:36] <exec> 08└─For the inevitable PoC and subsequent AIDS infections to follow from this. This is basically ActiveX by another name.
[21:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Um, dude - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:45] <exec> 08└─Why are we signing treaties to encourage trade with countries like that? You do realize that those practices are A RESULT of "free trade". Right? It's completely possible to put a high tariff on a country with poor labor practices. USA did it for many decades--back when the country was strong. [metr...
[21:30:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The official version is under wraps - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:49] <exec> 08└─Some chapters of earlier versions have been leaked, [google.com] but you're right: The secrecy is a giant red flag; the current crop of trade agreements are damaging for Joe Average. -- gewg_
[21:30:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:So now do we get to read it? - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:50] <exec> 08└─That to me is sufficient grounds for me to assume it's nefarious.
[21:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OMFG, dude - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:55] <exec> 08└─you made me wonder if democracy is fundamentally the best approach to foreign policy This is A BUSINESS CONTRACT, negotiated in secret BY CORPORATIONS. The terms are STILL secret. The corporations want a simple yes|no on this from Congress. "Democracy" is the last word anyone should apply to this pr...
[21:30:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:OMFG, dude - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:56] <exec> 08└─Oh for sure, the current approach is shit. They made me ponder the relevance of democracy is all.
[21:30:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Be proud. - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 1005 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:58] <exec> 08└─Another weird aspect of the whole situation is the assumption that the best place for international economic policy is in the treaty process. As a thought experiment, you can implement something that simulates the exact operation of a treaty using public laws. There doesn't seem to be anything "spec...
[21:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:59] <exec> 08└─Filter error: Comment too short
[21:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02SHAFTA - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:01] <exec> 08└─The backronym derived by the listeners of wise radio guy Thom Hartmann: "Southern Hemisphere Asian Free Trade Agreement". -- gewg_
[21:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:arbitrators are not judges - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:06] <exec> 08└─"advice and consent of the senate" - gag me. That bunch of rubber stamps.
[21:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02It could be far worse. - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:07] <exec> 08└─Suppose the president didn't require anyone's confirmation at all.
[21:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:I can see the point to the up-or-down vote - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:09] <exec> 08└─Somebody like Snowden, and maybe like Assange: WE NEED YOU RIGHT NOW! Leak this piece of shit in its entirety. IMMEDIATELY.
[21:31:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"IP" - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:13] <exec> 08└─Another problem is that the TPP allows for more draconian "IP" policies. In addition to undermining sovereignty and making corporations even more powerful, it affects our basic rights as well. Anytime I hear anything about the buzzword "intellectual property", it is almost always followed by some au...
[21:31:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Multinationals vs. survival. - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:14] <exec> 08└─The most important political issue this century is to make sure the Earth remains habitable. To accomplish this take a lot of detailed work, but one of the important tools must be: To make sure the multinational corporations are under the control of the people via governments, and not the government...
[21:31:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:25] <exec> 08└─Or this badass plan [diseno-art.com] to make an unsinkable aircraft carrier.
[21:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03calzone [2181] (Score:1) 02Re:The hell it won't. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:31:35] <exec> 08└─It would be interesting if, for the sake of saving lives, a boat such as this could be "torn apart" when it was sinking. This would cause the cargo to fall out and sink, while the boat remains floated in the water, within reach of passengers to use as flotation devices. Maybe some kind of pre-fractu...
[21:31:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02Already Working On It: - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:41] <exec> 08└─The unsinkability sounds like a great feature. Perhaps this could be employed on probes to Europa, where weight considerations are even greater than usual ?
[21:31:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Benefit: light weight? but what about toxicity? - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:43] <exec> 08└─The only real benefit seems to be that the hull will be light weight. Perhaps it will be damage resilient too? But what toxicity does this material cause at manufacture? skin contact? volatile compounds? scrapping? And what does heat resistance has to do with a hull?
[21:31:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Before Europe - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:44] <exec> 08└─The unsinkability sounds like a great feature. Perhaps this could be employed on probes to Europa, where weight considerations are even greater than usual?
[21:32:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:32:10] <exec> 08└─Well it seemed to work for German monks during lent [wikipedia.org]. And now I think I need to be a German monk.
[21:32:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:All Studies Are The Same! - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:32:25] <exec> 08└─People that have a smartphone also in many cases brushes the teeth. So if you brush your teeth enough you will get a smartphone!! ;-)
[21:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid idea, naive journalists - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 1409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:32:56] <exec> 08└─I liken it to mining the moon for raw materials where we have plenty here on earth. There might come a time when we need to mine the moon. But that time isn't here yet and we don't really have the tech to do it in a cost effective manner. I am not against solar roadways but jumping on the bandwagon...
[21:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:33:34] <exec> 08└─> But why not then just answer the question of how long should someone that leaves the government, military or intelligence community be isolated from the workforce. The answer to that question is meta. The problem is not these specific individuals it is the existence of the industry itself. The out...
[21:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Summary of 3LA defenders - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:42] <exec> 08└─I think this means that 3LA defenders can be disregarded. They are just speaking in pure self interest. But I sure want to see the skirt length of that cheerleader choir ;)
[21:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:This is exactly what I said would happen - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:35:05] <exec> 08└─Then they'll take it to the little phone shop down the street which offers "downgrades" and pretty much any other repair service, just as we PC shops offer the same for your laptop or desktop.
[21:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is exactly what I said would happen - 06MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:35:07] <exec> 08└─This is actually a pretty natural next step in solving the dark silicon [wikipedia.org] problem: you can't use all of the transistors on your processor at the same time, so you optimize different sections of it for different workloads and switch which section you power up based on the current worklo...
[21:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:35:34] <exec> 08└─Ad Hominem: colloquially known as "attacking the messenger." Max Fisher's crazed attack... Max_Fisher ... that's clever as fuck A+ useful idiots (e.g. @Max_Fisher) are trying... Also, really??? Proof by random posts by Twitter blowhards? I notice you don't provide any examples of Mr. F...
[21:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:35:35] <exec> 08└─The first tweet - which began this cascade - is Mr Fisher, comparing Sy Hersh to Dan Brown or Alex Jones. These are thing one expects from Fox news, not someone critiquing a consistently insightful investigative journalist who has been proven right by history nearly a dozen times - always upsetting...
[21:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:c'mon, bro, at least make it believable - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:35:48] <exec> 08└─Not to mention those guys were in helicopters. Hersh has destroyed a blockbuster narrative.
[21:36:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not feminine or masculine - 06Skater Girls Of Afghanistan Promote Education for Women - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:36:59] <exec> 08└─Tony Hawk and Bart Simpson
[21:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Depends ... - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:58] <exec> 08└─I fought the law...
[21:38:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Must be lots left - 06Verizon Announces Acquisition of AOL for $4.4 Billion - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:34] <exec> 08└─Neither do most people involved in them.
[21:39:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03snick [1408] 02Re:The point is? - 06Californians Get Past the Yuck Factor With 'Toilet to Tap' Water Recycling - 118 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:39:44] <exec> 08└─Most agriculture is in the central valley, and most of the raw sewage is on the coast. Shit would have to flow uphill.
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[22:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02'puts the user back in control of the experience' - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:31] <exec> 08└─by willfully ignoring the user's wishes? I'm not sure I follow.
[22:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:'puts the user back in control of the experienc - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:32] <exec> 08└─Here is a quote that better explains what's going on.https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=956906/ [mozilla.org] " :Gavin Sharp [email: gavin@gavinsharp.com] 2014-01-06 14:47:57 PST autocomplete="off" does two things: a) prevents us from automatically filling in already-saved data for forms/f...
[22:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02that makes sense, thanks. - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:33] <exec> 08└─I always completely disable the password manager. That forces me to type all my passwords in manually.
[22:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02WTF? I never use autocomplete - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:35] <exec> 08└─how does the new firefox provide for my army of kuro5hin dupes, then?
[22:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02It's not the license, it's the intent - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:38] <exec> 08└─gcc, gdb and emacs were at one time gplv2. Linux has always been gplv2. gcc, gdb and emacs are free software but not open source. linux is open source but not free software. As Richard describes it, the purpose of open source is efficiency whereas the purpose of free software is to build a community...
[22:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the license, it's the intent - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:40] <exec> 08└─Open Source == Freedom and Free Software == Free Enough?
[22:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02RMS doesn't consider open source to be freedom - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:41] <exec> 08└─Consider that Apple at one time was an active developer of GCC, GDB and the like. When the FSF introduced the GPLv3, Apple so much objected to its provisions regarding software patents, it spent quite likely tens of millions of dollars on the development of clang, llvm and lldb. While the UIUC versi...
[22:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not the license, it's the intent - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:43] <exec> 08└─Backwards. gcc etc. is free software AND open source. Open source does not imply free (libre), but all free software must be open source. It is advocating the open source development model without the freedom for the user that RMS and others in the free software movement object to.
[22:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:vote with your mouse - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:44] <exec> 08└─You got that backwards. All free software is open source, but open source software isn't necessarily free (libre) software. Corporate types wanted to use the successful development model the free software advocates had created, but profit, control, etc., so they came up with open source. Same develo...
[22:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:vote with your mouse - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:46] <exec> 08└─I was able to uninstall 37, download 38, and install the DRM free 38 in under 2 minutes. Thanks : ) Kept all the bookmarks and even the previous session.
[22:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Do they have a DRM-Free Mac OS X download? - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:48] <exec> 08└─Filter error: Comment too short
[22:30:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03gmrath [4181] (Score:1) 02Re:vote with your mouse - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:49] <exec> 08└─". . . and he'll come through the Internet to give you a telewedgie." I'll bet that would be fun to watch!
[22:30:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm preparing the popcorn - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:51] <exec> 08└─But... but... sandbox!
[22:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I'm preparing the popcorn - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:52] <exec> 08└─That battle was already lost when javascript was allowed to do everything and the kitchen sink, and "webdesigners" ceased to be able to write even a simple page without requiring it.
[22:30:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Protectionism is complicated - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 312 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:57] <exec> 08└─We learned the problems with it in the 1930s. But to say the 1980s-present policy of always reducing trade barriers when possible has worked out positively is pretty uncertain. This comic [economixcomix.com] identifies some potentially problematic elements with the theory that underlies reducing tra...
[22:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:I have a good reason for supporting free trade - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:01] <exec> 08└─http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War/ [wikipedia.org] China and Taiwan have repeatedly attacked each other. Nothing recent, but their relationship is fairly dicey. They have never signed any agreement or treaty to actually end the war.
[22:31:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:So now do we get to read it? - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 65 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:06] <exec> 08└─That to me is sufficient grounds for me to assume it's nefarious.
[22:31:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A rising tide lifts all yachts - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 1480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:19] <exec> 08└─First, the vast majority of USAians don't own a boat, so it's a shitty metaphor--especially as currently applied. Regan got the phrase from JFK (1963). [wikipedia.org] Kennedy was talking about building public infrastructure (adding water) and about the ACTUAL LIVING-WAGE JOBS FOR WORKING-CLASS USAi...
[22:31:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Corporations [...] without nationality" - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:27] <exec> 08└─No one has specifically mentioned that point yet. Kudos to you. Ross Perot got 19 percent of the popular vote when he ran for president in 1992. How did he do that? He concentrated on trade policy. "That giant sucking sound" was how he described jobs leaving the USA (NAFTA). He was wrong on pretty m...
[22:31:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03mr_mischief [4884] (Score:2) 02Re:"IP" - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:31] <exec> 08└─I don't remember the source offhand, but IIRC it enforces the current US copyright terms as an absolute minimum across all signatories.
[22:32:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the interpretation, stupid - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:19] <exec> 08└─> It is the fundamental nature of science to clarify previous findings. You presume the previous pronouncements were actually scientific. What if they were the results of corruption and lobbying, rather than science?
[22:32:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the interpretation, stupid - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:20] <exec> 08└─Apparently following it is not quite as simple and easy as it is presented to be.
[22:32:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the interpretation, stupid - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:21] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, it's not all on the journalists. Journalists didn't invent the food pyramid or any of the other government recommendations. Journalists didn't cause the statin craze or the general hand wringing over cholesterol that drove so many to eat trans-fats as a substitute. Science reporting i...
[22:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:It's still stupid - 06SolaRoad Cycle Path Electricity Yield Exceeds Expectations - 1182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:00] <exec> 08└─It's still going to be cheaper and easier to put the solar panels OVER the road or path rather than UNDER it. That's what they're doing in South Korea and it seems to be working just fine. You can also put them on plenty of other government property -- reservoirs seem to be an excellent choice, as t...
[22:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing new, business as usual. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:48] <exec> 08└─The Intercept is grinding it's axe. It's governmenthatingaxe.
[22:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03smaniak [5058] (Score:1) 02Some relevant history. - 06NSA's Loudest Defenders Have Financial Ties to NSA Contractors - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:05] <exec> 08└─"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." -- President Dwight Eisenhower, Jan. 17, 1961.
[22:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Re:At least SoylentNews is honest - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:18] <exec> 08└─To give a fictional example, Archibald Buttle [wikipedia.org] had nothing hide. To give a real life example, Jean Charles de Menezes [wikipedia.org] had nothing to hide either.
[22:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Chilling effect - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:00] <exec> 08└─Well, it wasn't clear from your original post that you were talking about how things ought to be versus reality. Our legal system would be totally unrecognizable if it was about the pursuit of fair and accurate justice, but by the same token, one guy deciding to take a decade in jail to prove a poin...
[22:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:01] <exec> 08└─Straight away, the title frames Hersh’s 10,000-word, years-in-the-making report as a nutbar conspiracy theory
[22:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Re:Article Material - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 891 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:13] <exec> 08└─Add The New York Times [nytimes.com] to the list of news organizations chiming in with reporters who have additional sources that can corroborate what Hersh is saying. They even mention that they've had most of this information for some time and have been sitting on it for various reasons. On top of...
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[23:30:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Does it go - 06The Machine That Could Replace Anesthesiologists - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:23] <exec> 08└─Bing?
[23:30:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Anesthesiologists are paid amazingly well. - 06The Machine That Could Replace Anesthesiologists - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:24] <exec> 08└─Anesthesiologists are paid amazingly well. Stupidly well, I think. Welcome to the modern era.
[23:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Note: - 06The Machine That Could Replace Anesthesiologists - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:26] <exec> 08└─Even the slightest problem--for example, if the patient has low blood oxygen or a slow heart rate--slows or stops the drug's infusion.
[23:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Note: - 06The Machine That Could Replace Anesthesiologists - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:27] <exec> 08└─Even the slightest problem--for example, if the patient has low blood oxygen or a slow heart rate--slows or stops the drug's infusion.
[23:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02seems far fetched - 06The Machine That Could Replace Anesthesiologists - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:29] <exec> 08└─The one time I was in the room during a surgery, the anesthesiologist was the hardest working person in the room. All the surgeon has to do is perform the surgery. The anesthesiologist's job is to keep the patient alive.
[23:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:seems far fetched - 06The Machine That Could Replace Anesthesiologists - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:31] <exec> 08└─Was the anesthesiologist following a lot of protocols at once using the available data and administering drugs in precise amounts? Sounds like the anesthesiologist can be replaced by a machine.
[23:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Trust us our system is fault proof! - 06The Machine That Could Replace Anesthesiologists - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:32] <exec> 08└─The control program has encountered and illegal condition. The patient will be terminated. Press any key to try another patient. FDA = Federal "Donation" Acceptance ;-)
[23:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Any non-corporate browsers left? - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:41] <exec> 08└─Slowest and buggiest POS browser on the planet, but it is *still* available DRM free.
[23:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:Any non-corporate browsers left? - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:43] <exec> 08└─Still. Its just a plug-in. Not all that crazy.
[23:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Any non-corporate browsers left? - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:44] <exec> 08└─Give Midori [midori-browser.org] a try. The Windows build is pretty shakey, but it's really come together in the past couple years under Linux. Gaaah, I just clicked my own link and it's gone web 2.0. The browser itself is still good.
[23:30:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:'puts the user back in control of the experienc - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 649 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:50] <exec> 08└─> Here is a quote that better explains what's going on. Or you could just explain it for people who don't have expertise in HTML. The normal case is that firefox will ask you if you want to save a password. [eightforums.com] autocomplete=off is an HTML attribute not a browser setting. It is a way f...
[23:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:RMS doesn't consider open source to be freedom - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:57] <exec> 08└─So, the big stink is that RMS wants the corporations to release the source code of their forks. Or at least to make it so that they have to share the changes they make to the source code of Free Software.
[23:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:RMS doesn't consider open source to be freedom - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:59] <exec> 08└─> Or at least to make it so that they have to share the changes they make to the source code of Free Software. Yes. If you take from commons you must give back to the commons. In the case of Apple there is history. The original Objective-C compiler was built on gcc. Jobs really, really, really did n...
[23:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Yes, that's it precisely. - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 710 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:00] <exec> 08└─If you don't already know that then you don't know much about the history of free software. It happens that Apple ported GCC to the Macintosh Programmer's Workshop in 1989, so it could generate 68k binaries for System 6.5 and the development builds of System 7. But it never released its patches, it...
[23:31:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02you don't understand an admittedly confusing term - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:02] <exec> 08└─the simple availability of source code, or a license that is listed among the free software licenses, doesn't make a piece of software open source. Linus Torvalds is quite emphatic that Linux is Open Source, but not Free Software. Richard Stallman is even more emphatic that Emacs is Free Software bu...
[23:31:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03khedoros [2921] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not the license, it's the intent - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:03] <exec> 08└─gcc, gdb and emacs are free software but not open source.
[23:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02no that's not actually the case - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:05] <exec> 08└─the simple fact that all the source code is readily available, doesn't mean that free software is open source. Consider that if you heat coal, all the volatile ingredients will burn off, to produce coke, which is commonly used to refine iron ore. That you can convert coal into coke, doesn't yield a...
[23:31:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:vote with your mouse - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:07] <exec> 08└─Then the corporate types wanted to exclude programmers from the successful software so they came up with systemd to make it complex and thus increase reliance on corporate salary powered cube office automatons.
[23:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Do they have a DRM-Free Mac OS X download? - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 1077 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:08] <exec> 08└─Why? DRM is your friend. DRM is here to help you. DRM is the future of video on the intarwebz. DRM lets you watch Daredevil on Netflix. DRM prevents fair use. You do not want fairness do you citizen? DRM is amazing. DRM is like UHD and 7:1 sound in improving the user experience. DRM is more inconven...
[23:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02'DRM is the saviour of the starving artist.' - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:10] <exec> 08└─quite commonly the record labels assert that artists will suffer if we download music. That's not really the case, because the artists don't get much money at all from the sales of their recording, because of the contracts they've signed with the labels. The artists make most of their money from tic...
[23:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:'DRM is the saviour of the starving artist.' - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:11] <exec> 08└─** woosh **
[23:31:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:I'm preparing the popcorn - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:15] <exec> 08└─That battle was already lost when javascript was allowed to do everything and the kitchen sink, and incompetent web developers ceased to be able to write even a simple page without requiring it.
[23:31:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm preparing the popcorn - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:17] <exec> 08└─Erm he did put quotes around it. The bloat you added to his post is a bit ironic.
[23:31:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02DRM? - 06Firefox 38 Enables Encrypted Media Extensions DRM - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:18] <exec> 08└─I'll try it out when they come up with an open source scheme for DRM. Ie. one that is provably safe, other than provably "fair". I have a special hate for Adobe. Remember the Flash days?
[23:31:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:So now do we get to read it? - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:34] <exec> 08└─In other words, it's impossible to see the TPP as anything other than flagrant, open, and egregious corruption on the part of our legislators.
[23:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:So now do we get to read it? - 06Fast-Track Trade Measure Fails Key Test Vote In Senate - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:36] <exec> 08└─If for no other reason that the common man can not find an official version of the proposed treaty, It should NEVER pass. Should it pass the Senate, it should be immediately challenged in the courts. This of course is hard to do, because you have to wait until you have been injured and therefore hav...
[23:32:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03LordByronStyrofoam [5232] (Score:1) 02.. and is therefore a witch. - 06New Metal Foam can Float on Water - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:33] <exec> 08└─Burn the magnesium witch!
[23:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:33:09] <exec> 08└─Given the motivation, I could probably find you a web page talking about the epidemic of aliens abducting bigfoot so he can play poker with Elvis, but that doesn't make it a fact. In fact, salt reduction is helpful to about 10% of people with high blood pressure. Nobody else sees a significant effec...
[23:33:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:33:10] <exec> 08└─So do the hormonal effects you note for low salt intake also occur in people with high blood pressure on low-salt diets? If so, which is worse, those effects or high blood pressure? Turns out eating a low-cholesterol diet has similar effects, to the point that one very large long-term study was term...
[23:33:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait headline - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:33:13] <exec> 08└─Moderation is good as long as you don't overdo it.
[23:33:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of the US "diet industry" is corrupt - 06Why Everything We Know About Nutrition Seems To Be Wrong - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:33:16] <exec> 08└─Consuming rancid fish oil can cause catastrophic vitamin E deficiency as it "uses up" all of what's in the body. I don't know about the effects in humans, but in dogs, the result is blindness due to retinal atrophy.
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[23:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Similar familial names - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:35:06] <exec> 08└─All of us (7 in all) wives' had variations of similar names 8-) Was there an avalanche involved in that? [wikipedia.org] . A quote I appreciate that was missing from the summary: "You have no privacy. Get over it." --Scott McNeely, CEO of Sun Microsystems, 1999 Right on the facts, wrong on the at...
[23:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Downsides of giving up your privacy... - 06Personal Privacy in a Surveillance World -- How Important is it? - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:35:09] <exec> 08└─What people fail to realize is that the risks of pervasive surveillance are not limited to being caught being bad.
[23:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Re:Osama bin Laden an actor, on USG payroll - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 1014 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:36:44] <exec> 08└─Just skimming through Max Fisher's piece for Vox [vox.com] (for which he cites zero sources beyond official statements the public has received up to this point), I see Fisher stating that Hersh is engaging in "unsubstantiated conspiracy theories", that he's "gone off the rails", that his recent repo...
[23:36:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"heavy editing" - 06Seymour Hersh: The Killing of Osama bin Laden - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:36:48] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't even call it "heavy" editing. My original title was pretty flamey: Seymour Hersh: Obama Totally Lied About Murder of bin Laden My original dept. was from the pants-on-fire dept. I only included 1 paragraph from Vox (mainly to get the link to the whole deal); takyon added the second, which...
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