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[00:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02SystemD? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:47:32] <exec> 08└─So if SteamOS is Debian based, then does it run SystemD?
[00:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SystemD? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:33] <exec> 08└─http://linuxg.net/steamos-is-officially-a-debian-fork-and-not-only-a-debian-based-system/ [linuxg.net] http://news.softpedia.com [softpedia.com] https://github.com [github.com]
[00:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:47:35] <exec> 08└─If it doesn't need to enforce DRM what possible purpose does a dedicated client serve that a simple website doesn't? And I'm speaking as a happy customer...
[00:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is so special about "Here Mapping Group" ? - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:47] <exec> 08└─There are only a few serious providers of globally comprehensive GIS data in the world, and Nokia's has a reputation for being one of the best there is. Remember the trouble Apple had after losing Google Maps on iOS? That's the similar bind the automotive companies are trying to keep themselves from...
[00:47:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Today's propaganda from the Mouth of Soros - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 172 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:55] <exec> 08└─Yet another idiot who doesn't realize climate!=temperature. You're not misinformed at this point, you're a willful waste of life and ought to feel bad about your stupidity.
[00:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Is there any intelligenge in jmorris' posts? - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:59] <exec> 08└─On the long-shot that you might actually know something of value, I plugged some terms into Google and found... Coffee Party FACT CHECK [coffeepartyusa.com] Q: Is Coffee Party USA affiliated with billionaire George Soros, the founder [of] Soros Fund Management and Open Society Institute? A: No. Dem...
[00:48:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Probably pending the supremes, though - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 819 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:31] <exec> 08└─Yes, it fucking matters. "Power to enforce" is a complex topic in the constitution, but to pretend that court prohbitions don't matter is to ignore the entire history of jurisprudence in the US. You can live in conspiracy land if you want, one where the Justice department didn't write up a ton of in...
[00:48:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Probably pending the supremes, though - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:38] <exec> 08└─Things did not get this way overnight
[00:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Probably pending the supremes, though - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:41] <exec> 08└─I too was disappointed this court found it Illegal, yet passed the buck back to Congress. Isn't that exactly how it is supposed to work?
[00:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Probably pending the supremes, though - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:43] <exec> 08└─Nope. If its illegal or unconstitutional they should say that and be done with it. Instead we get this written right into the decision: We note that at the present time, § 215 is scheduled to expire in just several weeks. The government vigorously contends that the program is necessary for ma...
[00:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Probably pending the supremes, though - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:44] <exec> 08└─Silly me. I thought it was Congress' job to pass laws and the Judiciary to interpret them. Must have been some other Democratic Republic I was thinking of...
[00:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Probably pending the supremes, though - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:46] <exec> 08└─The judiciary cannot take into account the highest law of the land? The problem with this ruling is that it is far too narrow, and will allow congress to simply authorize the spying, or at least that it what I gather. It needs to be made clear that this is simply unconstitutional, and no amount of l...
[00:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Probably pending the supremes, though - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 1073 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:47] <exec> 08└─Its the Courts rule on the laws. Regardless of what Congress may or may not do, THIS law was just "declared illegal". The court can't make pronouncements on future laws. Even when future laws are passed they can't just decide to review it. Someone with standing has to fight it through the various co...
[00:48:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:What does this change? - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:55] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, the gray area is just gray enough... Consider this: I write a biography about you that obviously contains information about you. Are those your papers or are those my papers? We are all on the same page here about the morality of ths situation. Posters like ikanread are just try...
[00:48:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What does this change? - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:56] <exec> 08└─Are those your papers or are those my papers?
[00:50:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Good education, but incomplete - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:24] <exec> 08└─If you don't have an actual emergency, 911 is not required to keep you on the line. Maybe you could request an ambulance for the beating you are about to get? They will just hang up on you. Especially if this were to become a frequently used ploy.
[00:50:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Good education, but incomplete - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:27] <exec> 08└─If you ask "am I free to go" and the police officer doesn't answer but just keeps asking his own questions, what are you supposed to do? Assume you are free to go?
[00:50:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Detaining people without any evidence - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:29] <exec> 08└─A recent decision on this sort of bullshit: SCOTUS: Delaying Motorists on Highway to Await Dog Sniffing Searches Not OK [alternet.org] -- gewg_
[00:50:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:The Cloud to the rescue! - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:42] <exec> 08└─Which is why mine is set to steam/upload to Yandex, not Microsoft, Not Google, Not Dropbox. Let them go to Moscow to get my streams.
[00:51:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:who's the worse troll? - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:51:31] <exec> 08└─How are these programs not wholly discriminatory based on sex? It would be trivial to file a lawsuit for this. If they are teaching that program to women only, shouldn't there be a similar program for men to warn them and teach them self-defense techniques of female sexual predators that go out of t...
[00:51:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:"People of colour" - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:51:39] <exec> 08└─The whole "people of colour" thing bugs me so much. Ok, so what exactly would you to prefer to call the disparate group of minority races in the US that all have the same trait of visible skin color differentiation? That's a mouthful for everyday use...
[00:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:final "nail in the coffin" - 06Massive New Study Reaffirms That Vaccines Don't Cause Autism - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:54:01] <exec> 08└─Nothing in life is a sure thing.
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[01:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03buswolley [848] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:35] <exec> 08└─"Almost all the features 'expected' of a digital game distribution platform are in place; chat, auto-updates, matchmaking, achievements and time tracking."
[01:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:36] <exec> 08└─Auto-updating is the best feature. It lets your participate in alpha/beta projects very easily. I'm loving Killing Floor 2 right now : )
[01:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why not GameSpy compatible? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:38] <exec> 08└─GOG has a huge catalogue of games that formerly used matchmaking from the shuttered GameSpy service. GOG would be doing gamers a favor by providing compatible matchmaking service for those "Good Old Games" instead of rolling out yet another incompatible service. Does GOG even care about those old "o...
[01:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Why not GameSpy compatible? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:39] <exec> 08└─3 reasons bro 1. GameSpy sucked. 2. GameSpy sucked. 3. GameSpy sucked.
[01:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm confused - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:41] <exec> 08└─How did this story get approved? I don't see how it promotes awareness of the plights of the transgendered.
[01:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:dont get it - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:51] <exec> 08└─Have you tried google maps and street view lately?
[01:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:dont get it - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:52] <exec> 08└─Because making the rest of the car is easy?
[01:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:56] <exec> 08└─Shitty car manufacturers would not care about Google or whoever providing maps and self-driving cars. Those cars are shitty to drive anyway, and you just want to get to your destination without experiencing the drive. What Google wants to do is take the fun out of driving, the sales point of these t...
[01:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:57] <exec> 08└─Yeah! And nobody wants preset radio stations. That would take the thrill out of spinning all those knobs. And nobody would want a service that does all your navigation for you. That would take the thrill out of staring at maps and penciling down a route. Nobody would even want an automatic transmiss...
[01:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Reason? - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:59] <exec> 08└─They want to block this so auto makers can continue to charge $155 for map updates?
[01:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Not so far away - 06New Type of Memristors Used to Create a Limited Neural Net - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:48:31] <exec> 08└─Might want to check your math there... So we only need 10^10 chips to replicate the human brain [willamette.edu]. And 10 GW to power it all. I suspect however that neural chips won't have to be perfect like ordinary digital chips. Dude, got nuclear plant? ;) (would need like 20 of them..)
[01:49:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02An updated chart today from Pogson - 06Finland: Torvalds' Homeland is Using Linux to be Productive - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:26] <exec> 08└─The 16 percent count was a bit unusual but numbers over 10 percent have been repeated since early April. March, April, and the 1st week of May [mrpogson.com] -- gewg_
[01:51:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What about looking at him like he's retarded? - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:51:03] <exec> 08└─Yes, I've read that many times. I can't argue against that advice, but it isn't me. I can't passively sit, and wait for the cop to decide to approach my vehicle. He turned his lights on because he wanted to talk to me, so I get out and greet him. I've driven all over America, and only felt threatene...
[01:51:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What about looking at him like he's retarded? - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:51:06] <exec> 08└─Why would I make up a story like this? Why do YOU think it's made up? I suspect that you feel intimidated by the cops, and that you answer them with "yes sir" and "no sir". Me? I''m an American citizen. I have equals, but I have no superiors. I address people, cops included, as equals. I'm not intim...
[01:51:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:who's the worse troll? - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 1253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:51:44] <exec> 08└─Eh, that's a thing for sure, no argument here. One of my male friends received an invitation to be a “sperm donor” in that style, but fortunately he saw straight through to the true intentions of the woman making the request. It does make me wonder how many men she had made that offer to and if...
[01:53:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nothing works... - 06Comcast Servicing Emerging Legion of Broadband Customers - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:53:59] <exec> 08└─I've been encouraging and helping friends drop their pay TV subscriptions in favor of broadband-only. I thought I was helping to stick it to Comcast in some small way when, in fact, I was actually HELPING them?! I give up...
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[02:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't you mean - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:33] <exec> 08└─Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to BURN UP on FRIDAY!
[02:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Its Dead Jim - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:34] <exec> 08└─According to this tracking page http://www.satflare.com [satflare.com] its already reentered over Tiara Del Fuego about 5 minutes before I posted this.
[02:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Three tonnes of salvage! - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:35] <exec> 08└─For whoever can catch it! Don't forget to die trying!
[02:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:2, Insightful) 02My condolences.... - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:37] <exec> 08└─The Russians have put a lot of work into this. Just sad to see this happen. That was 6,000 pounds of food and supplies that was sent at great expense. I am sure the ISS could have sure used it. Stuff isn't easy to find up there in orbit. Its not like a quickie trip to the grocery store for a snack...
[02:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My condolences.... - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:39] <exec> 08└─That was 6,000 pounds of food and supplies that was sent at great expense.
[02:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Shoot it down! - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:40] <exec> 08└─That craft poses a hazard to the world! We should shoot it down in flames! Oh - wait . . . it's shooting itself down in flames. Never mind.
[02:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shoot it down! - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:42] <exec> 08└─Why? It's not full of Muslims.
[02:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 1047 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:52] <exec> 08└─I'm going to echo the other responses -- automatic updates is the big one for me. More for new/indie titles; but also for older titles; as GoG will add expansion packs and stuff for titles I own or fix issues etc. I log into gog all the time and see 'new or updated' next to titles in my library... i...
[02:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not GameSpy compatible? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:55] <exec> 08└─Insane gaymer logic. Got it.
[02:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:dont get it - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:07] <exec> 08└─Not more than once or twice a day, just about every day. I'm always looking up something it seems. Don't like the new format on the computer, but it still works. Plus, the google maps app on android has a navigation feature with voice turn by turn directions, as well as integrated traffic. With a da...
[02:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:2) 02Re:Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:14] <exec> 08└─No sane human being would buy a luxury vehicle and then let a chauffeur drive it for them.
[02:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:16] <exec> 08└─Hmmm.. Flamebait or Troll? Flamebait or Troll?
[02:48:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is there any intelligenge in jmorris' posts? - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:29] <exec> 08└─> [1] Has anyone found any discussion of TPP (the Trans-Pacific Partnership aka SHAFTA) on any of those? You are willing to google jmorris's bullshit, but you won't google your own?
[02:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:1) 02Save the Beans! - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:33] <exec> 08└─Climate change or not, we must work together to save the beans before the apocalyptic caffeine crash where all science and engineering knowledge is lost.
[02:49:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Probably pending the supremes, though - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:49:13] <exec> 08└─The frustration doesn't come from this specific event, but from the fact that, even if we end up winning this particular battle, there will be an endless number of battles to come.
[02:50:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Whose job is it to care? - 06U.S. Military Personnel Convicted of $50 Million Worth of Crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:25] <exec> 08└─What's good for M & M Enterprises will be good for the country.
[02:50:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy answer - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:50] <exec> 08└─The research is quite clear. Abolishing slavery and introducing wage slavery to take its place was the smartest economic decision world governments ever made.
[02:55:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:We've known this for ages - 06When Bosses 'Serve' Their Employees, Everything Improves - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:55:43] <exec> 08└─"Captain"? (as in Captain Kirk): ultimately in charge for any problems/errors, but the one making the decisions of where the team is heading. If the team fails, he/she catches it, so is responsible for making sure the team DOESN'T fail by leading while giving responsible people their heads.
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[03:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Russia says it's burned up: - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:47:42] <exec> 08└─Roscosmos says it came down over the Pacific at 2:04 GMT. http://www.collectspace.com [collectspace.com]
[03:48:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sigma [1225] 02Re:dont get it - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 43 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:11] <exec> 08└─Because making the rest of the car is easy?
[03:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is so special about "Here Mapping Group" ? - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:15] <exec> 08└─My guess is that they have a patent portfolio. "A method to describe a route to a location ON A COMPUTER"
[03:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:21] <exec> 08└─Yes.
[03:48:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Looks like a bidding war now. - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:48:23] <exec> 08└─Uber has put in a 3 billion US$ offer. http://www.businessinsider.com [businessinsider.com]
[03:50:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy answer - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:50:55] <exec> 08└─It is true. In fact Lincoln apparently lamented about the death of the artisan and the rise of the factory worker. https://northernsong.wordpress.com [wordpress.com] http://www.pbs.org
[03:51:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about looking at him like he's retarded? - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:39] <exec> 08└─You don't look like a moron. You are a moron.
[03:52:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:"People of colour" - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:52:25] <exec> 08└─Ok, so what exactly would you to prefer to call the disparate group of minority races in the US that all have the same trait of visible skin color differentiation? That's a mouthful for everyday use...
[03:54:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Nail hit squarely on the head. - 06Comcast Servicing Emerging Legion of Broadband Customers - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:54:28] <exec> 08└─And because it's got actual, physical buttons, I can easily toggle mute on and off by feel alone, without having to take the phone away from my ear.
[03:55:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:managers are for removing obstacles - 06When Bosses 'Serve' Their Employees, Everything Improves - 1055 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:55:54] <exec> 08└─I was not coding back then. I do some coding now for my Arduino compatible stuff and I know exactly what you refer to. One ill-timed phone call often derails hours of consideration of how something is to work. Most of the time, it was refinery maintenance. Something wasn't working right, and the pla...
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[04:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How soon will it be used for murder? - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:47:34] <exec> 08└─Push some sap in front of the truck. My client is not guilty, Your Honor. The truck's electronic brain killed the victim.
[04:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:How soon will it be used for murder? - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:35] <exec> 08└─That's the same as pushing some sap in front of an oncoming train. Or a truck driven by a human driver for that matter. In all cases the one who did the pushing is the one who gets tried for murder.
[04:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How soon will it be used for murder? - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:37] <exec> 08└─But wait, it's totally different because there's a computer instead of a human driver. The computer did it. Members of the jury of stupid hicks, vote to convict the evil computer.
[04:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Also, the future of incarceration - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:47:38] <exec> 08└─As featured in some prescient literature [wikia.com] a while back.
[04:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02I wish them success... - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:47:40] <exec> 08└─This is going to be very interesting. I wish them well. Side note: I have a personal interest in their success. I am getting older. A lot of people I know can no longer safely drive. Inevitably, I may join their ranks as well. If anything, I would sure like to have a small electric car one day that...
[04:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:I wish them success... - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:42] <exec> 08└─I am getting older.. . . I would sure like to have a small electric car one day that I can just tell it to take me to my friend's house, to the grocery store, or to the doctor, and it knows where to go and will get me there safely.
[04:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:My condolences.... - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:52] <exec> 08└─That's what makes it so sad. A lot of people worked very hard to make this. Nobody got to use it. Just because something went wrong. If it were within my power to de-orbit it to land it where someone could use it, I would do so, but I am condemned like the rest of us to helplessly watch it burn up o...
[04:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Shoot it down! - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:55] <exec> 08└─We should shoot it down in flames! Oh - wait . . . it's shooting itself down in flames.
[04:48:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03buswolley [848] 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 155 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:48:06] <exec> 08└─"Almost all the features 'expected' of a digital game distribution platform are in place; chat, auto-updates, matchmaking, achievements and time tracking."
[04:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Re:dont get it - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:48:26] <exec> 08└─Easy enough for Google to have already built a fleet of them
[04:48:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:48:36] <exec> 08└─Flamebait or Troll?
[04:49:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:47] <exec> 08└─What about when the supreme court ordered the TSA to inspect their body scanners before using them? The TSA ignored the supreme court for the better part of a year iirc. Can't find a good reference for it though.
[04:52:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Should sexist opensource developers be banned? - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:52:10] <exec> 08└─A filesystem by a man who did the correct thing. Deuteronomy supports his actions. He followed the law of God.
[04:52:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Please resubmit as a submission - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:52:17] <exec> 08└─The submission is nolonger in the queue
[04:54:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02every possible Name of God - 06The Infinite Library (Well, Almost) - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:54:04] <exec> 08└─So every possible Name of God must be written in those books. Hey! Aren't those the stars starting to wink out?
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[05:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is so special about "Here Mapping Group" ? - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:48:35] <exec> 08└─Nothing, it's just part of the quickly disintegrating Nokia carcass... If you want to be wow'd by a map, look at the OpenStreetMap project.
[05:48:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:48:38] <exec> 08└─Not everybody wants a computer to do the driving. Some drive to get from point-A to point-B. Why not take the bus then? Some drive for pleasure. Maybe the driver wants the experience from driving. No two drivers are the same, and no two cars are the same either. That would take the thrill out of sh...
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[05:48:41] <exec> 08└─No sane human being would buy a luxury vehicle and then let a chauffeur drive it for them.
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[06:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Oh the hue and cry.... - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:47:31] <exec> 08└─I can just imagine the outrage when turnabout becomes fair play. Why would you mention code-words on you Linkedin profile? Wouldn't potential employers and others shy away from someone who can't keep their mouth shut?
[06:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh the hue and cry.... - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:32] <exec> 08└─http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/07/spooks_busted_27000_profiles_reveal_new_intel_ops_home_addresses/ [theregister.co.uk] McGrath says the irony of blundering spooks listing OPSEC as a skill is not lost on him.
[06:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh the hue and cry.... - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:34] <exec> 08└─How do you find a competent spy for hire?
[06:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh the hue and cry.... - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:36] <exec> 08└─You look up "James Bond" in the phone book.
[06:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh the hue and cry.... - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:37] <exec> 08└─Lots of them were looking for new careers after, well, after 9-11, after Mansur al-Sharif, after AbuGhraib, after Tora Bora, after Pat Tillman, after Gitmo, after . . . . this should be enough, my fingers are tired. Of course, looking for work in the same line of expertise that you so spectacularly...
[06:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03pogostix [1696] (Score:2) 02no longer on /.? - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:47:39] <exec> 08└─Do you mean they pulled down a story? Censorship style?
[06:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:no longer on /.? - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:41] <exec> 08└─Anon got it wrong: http://yro.slashdot.org [slashdot.org] Posted by samzenpus on Thursday May 07, 2015 @03:09AM
[06:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no longer on /.? - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:42] <exec> 08└─I came to ask the same thing. I do know that slashdot (dice?) does quietly delete posts occasionally. Just go check on cached versions when you cant find 'that one interesting but buried post' and every so often I found a discrepancy. Are they doing it to entire stories now too?
[06:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no longer on /.? - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:44] <exec> 08└─Still there. [slashdot.org] Complete with 71 mostly shit posts too. I can't believe how bad the quality is there.
[06:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:no longer on /.? - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:45] <exec> 08└─My favorite is the "draw up a list of Islamic militants and post it" one.
[06:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] (Score:3, Touché) 02Shouldn't be a problem - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:47:47] <exec> 08└─It's just "metadata" anyway, why would anyone care about metadata?
[06:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I wish them success... - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:56] <exec> 08└─Sounds like the same kit everybody plus dog already has, on higher end cars: lane keeping (if the fog lines are good), and Adaptive cruse control (won't run over cars in front). But i bet it doesn't stop at stop signs, either lights or metal signs, goes blasting off road at the intersections. Mind y...
[06:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Dennis Weaver? - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:47:58] <exec> 08└─Movie, that guy who played McCloud in the TV show, '70s vintage? A truck chases him across, well, it must have been Nevada! And tries to kill him, but he stands, trapped, at the edge of a cliff, and when the truck tries to run him down, . . . (spoilage blocked). It was never clear whether that was a...
[06:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:dont get it - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 1032 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:48:44] <exec> 08└─They see it as the next step of the car industry. Previously, you effectively pay for the car up front, and the manufacturer only gets a little more ongoing money from dealers for parts/labour [as part of their franchise arrangement]. Now, they want you to pay up front for the car, AND pay monthly f...
[06:48:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02More than one way to skin a cat... - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 1352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:48:49] <exec> 08└─Following is a layman's rant on the idea of patenting... There should be no patent on the CONCEPT of skinning a cat; however a particular METHOD of skinning a cat could be patented. If you want to do it "on a computer", then the exact placement of the cat on the machine and exact tool used to skin...
[06:49:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Best part of waking up..." - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:49:16] <exec> 08└─A single hot year means nothing. There's been years like that before. Just like a single cool year means nothing on its own. You seem to be in this just for bashing people who you think is saying nothing is happening. Just because someone does not agree with everything and questions methods and cert...
[06:49:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:"Best part of waking up..." - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:49:17] <exec> 08└─I wonder just what it will take for the deniers to 'wake up and smell the coffee'?
[06:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Screwy maths? - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:49:21] <exec> 08└─The 1.4 degrees rise, 302 lb/degree drop, 46% drop, 302 lb being almost half, and 320 lb yield figures do not add up. The first two imply that 1.4*302 = 423lb has *already* dropped. Which would be way more than almost half. And don't use cranky meaningless units - bring the fucking Fahrenheits back.
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[07:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh the hue and cry.... - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:45] <exec> 08└─The thing is, if they're listing "Dropbox" as one of their skills on their LI profile, then they're no more competent than people who put "notepad" on their CV. Which probably means they're just throwing down arbitrary keywords on their profile. (And does "PUTTY" just refer to the ssh terminal progr...
[07:47:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] 02Shouldn't be a problem - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 66 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:51] <exec> 08└─It's just "metadata" anyway, why would anyone care about metadata?
[07:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Network? - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:53] <exec> 08└─Network, you say. What protocol does it use? CSP/SP, Cock Sucking Protocol/Swallowing Protocol? Social networking is not networking. StrappedOn and Facefuck and Twatter and ShitHub are why we can't have nice computerized computer networks anymore.
[07:48:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:I wish them success... - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:06] <exec> 08└─I guess I may end up as some cheap cat food.... As long as my family does not get hit with a big funeral bill, no biggie. Probably a better use of me than cremation. However I did like the composting opportunity that was discussed on Soylent a few days ago.
[07:48:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Dennis Weaver? - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:09] <exec> 08└─Maximum Overdrive. Or possibly Transformers. I haven't seen it.
[07:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Out-of-Control Russian - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:26] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't it have been shorter to just write Putin?
[07:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:40] <exec> 08└─How do you decide where to buy if a game is on both Steam and GoG?
[07:48:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:41] <exec> 08└─You pick the place that doesn't have DRM, duh! Was that a serious question, or are you just trolling?
[07:49:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:What is so special about "Here Mapping Group" ? - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:03] <exec> 08└─Don't give Nokia any credit - they simply bought NAVTEQ. NAVTEQ was already in Garmin before Nokia even knew they needed maps ("many years" before 2007 according to http://www8.garmin.com ) Note that TomTom bought up Tele Atlas, which was NAVTEQ's competitor, at about...
[07:49:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:11] <exec> 08└─How many times have you broken traffic rules and overspeeded because you were angry at something, and in the end it helped calm you?
[07:50:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02More than 22% of world population use Linux - 06Finland: Torvalds' Homeland is Using Linux to be Productive - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:55] <exec> 08└─by the time they wake up in the morning... That is if you use a smartphone as an alarm clock. It's claimed that there are 1.6 billion Androids per 7.2 billion world pop.
[07:51:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:How the hell? - 06U.S. Military Personnel Convicted of $50 Million Worth of Crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:32] <exec> 08└─Well that's easy. Management is probably more corrupt and what you're seeing here is just the small fishes. Isn't the Bush family build on arms dealing?
[07:54:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score:2) 02Re:This article - 06The Infinite Library (Well, Almost) - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:34] <exec> 08└─Not that I had noticed the "and so on" link, but the page I found did not contain any extraneous text, so it' better than the one in the link.
[07:56:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Paywall - 06Massive New Study Reaffirms That Vaccines Don't Cause Autism - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:00] <exec> 08└─trust us, we're catholic priests. We've just spent years studying small children...wait, that sounds wrong...
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[08:48:11] <exec> 08└─Made me google! Please don't do that if you can help it. Duel is a 1971 television (and later full-length theatrical) thriller film directed by Steven Spielberg and written by Richard Matheson, based on Matheson's short story of the same name. It stars Dennis Weaver as a terrified motorist stalked...
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[08:48:29] <exec> 08└─Quite an informative link, Hartree. Progress M-27M was launched with more than three tons of food, fuel and supplies for the station's six-person crew, including 1,940 pounds (880 kilograms) of propellant, 110 lbs (50 kg.) of oxygen, 926 lbs (420 kg) of water and 3,128 lbs (1,420 kg) of spare parts...
[08:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:45] <exec> 08└─That was a serious question. I don't actually mind Steam's DRM (besides, a lot of games don't actually have DRM). I already have a large-ish Steam Library, so if I'm to buy something on GoG, or to switch entirely, I need a little more enticement. It has to be worth having two libraries alongside eac...
[08:48:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:46] <exec> 08└─Obviously, price matters too. With two competing platforms, you choose the one which has the game you want for the lowest price (on sale preferably).
[08:49:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:19] <exec> 08└─That same thing often results in some innocent person involved in an accident.
[08:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Interesting) 02OMG let's panic - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 1317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:49:47] <exec> 08└─OK, let's panic, another global warming scare. But geez, they're scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one: - Tanzania is the world's 19th largest coffee producer [wikia.com]. So not exactly one of the big ones. - Coffee production in Tanzania has been stagnating since the 1990s [tacri.org]. N...
[08:50:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03threedigits [607] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting, but a long way to go - 06New Type of Memristors Used to Create a Limited Neural Net - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:09] <exec> 08└─From the article, this prototype has 30 synapses. This means we would need 250 to simulate a C. Elegans neural network (7.500 synapses), 3 millions to simulate an ant (10^8 synapses), and 3 * 10^12 (3 hundred billions) for a human brain (10^14 synapses). The speculated chip (not the one they actuall...
[08:53:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Open4D [371] (Score:2) 02Re:what now? - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:53:42] <exec> 08└─However, that's just cover for him to indulge in picking on the disempowered.
[08:54:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bootsy [3440] (Score:2) 02Re:Arianne - 06The Number Glitch That Can Lead to Catastrophe - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:54:07] <exec> 08└─Thanks for link. I love this quote about Ada from it, so relevant. "...a plethora of features and notational conventions, many of them unnecessary and some of them, like exception handling, even dangerous. [...] Do not allow this language in its present state to be used in applications where reliab...
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[09:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02What? - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:47:38] <exec> 08└─Something doesn't make sense here. We save it as a picture as it's longer life than a file.
[09:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02File Formats cannot be "open source" - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 2718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:47:39] <exec> 08└─That makes no sense. File formats can have an openly published specification. Software which implements reading and writing of files in that format may be open source or closed source. To complicate matters, the specification even if openly published may be patent encumbered. (A state I, as someone...
[09:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Dennis Weaver? - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:48:25] <exec> 08└─The movie was Duel. Long time since I watched it, but it was a pretty good movie. And I'm fairly sure the truck had a driver, as I remember it, at one point he signals Weaver to overtake him. (spoiler : There's an oncoming vehicle.) http://www.imdb.com [imdb.com]
[09:48:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jesus_666 [3044] (Score:2) 02Re:SystemD? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:48:54] <exec> 08└─No, it's still in Greenlight. Honestly, if the systemd team wanted their product out right away they should've gone with a big publisher like Ubisoft. Admittedly, tying your init daemon to Uplay and having networking that never, ever works might be downsides but at least they wouldn't have to wait f...
[09:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:48:58] <exec> 08└─I like their plan to implement update roll-backs. It's probably of limited utility for most, but in games where balance changes were made, it could be *ahem* useful.
[09:49:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 901 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:49:05] <exec> 08└─I mean this in the nices way possible, but to me you are part of the problem then. Careless/apathetic people like you are why we can't have nice things. DRM must be fought with tooth and nails wherever it spreads, when I buy a game/movie/book/whatever it's mine to do with as I please (except for inf...
[09:49:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jesus_666 [3044] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not GameSpy compatible? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:49:10] <exec> 08└─Given that Galaxy is supposed to offer matchmaking, that might be either already done or at least on their radar. Of course they can't modify every game they offer and I don't think anyone has reverse-engineered GameSpy's matchmaking system so some games may be beyond their ability to fix.
[09:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:What is so special about "Here Mapping Group" ? - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:49:30] <exec> 08└─So Google can just partner with TomTom and be done with it? Doesn't seem like Nokia HMG is that special. On top of this Google has their own maps? It ought to be how mapping data can be used. Not the mapping data itself. Which probably can be recreated as necessary and is only a cost and time barrie...
[09:49:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Paradise Pete [1806] (Score:1) 02Re:Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:49:40] <exec> 08└─How would you let off steam if you are just the passenger? The car wouldn't let you get in front of somebody and slam on the brakes if you're angry with them.
[09:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03radu [1919] (Score:1) 02free operating system - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:49:48] <exec> 08└─The greatest threat to the automobile industry would be if Google developed an operating system for self-driving cars and made it available free to everyone
[09:53:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:The Cloud to the rescue! - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:53:06] <exec> 08└─Will Snowden be included as a bonus gift? :P
[09:55:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"almost infinite" - 06The Infinite Library (Well, Almost) - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:55:28] <exec> 08└─It's only infinitesimally smaller than infinity.
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[10:48:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:What? - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:40] <exec> 08└─> > We save it as a picture as it's longer life than a file. > An image on a computer is a file.
[10:48:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:File Formats cannot be "open source" - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:42] <exec> 08└─Probably they meant Open Format [wikipedia.org]. The ideology behind it is the same as for Open Source, so for a less technical person it's easy to confuse, I guess, and the more technical persons probably can correctly assume what was meant.
[10:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03acharax [4264] (Score:2) 02For scanned documents - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:48:43] <exec> 08└─I'd always go with DJVU, same quality as PDF when properly configured but using a fraction of the size and without all the redundant features and general bugginess* (and the viewer software is superior and more light-weight), it's an open format too. * You'd be surprised how many PDF encoding librar...
[10:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oral Tradition is best - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:48:45] <exec> 08└─Writing encourages forgetfulness.
[10:48:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Who would want it? - 06Consumer Version of Oculus Rift Coming in Early 2016 - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:48:53] <exec> 08└─I mean, who would want a crack in his eyes?
[10:48:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Timing looks good for me anyway - 06Consumer Version of Oculus Rift Coming in Early 2016 - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:48:55] <exec> 08└─I plan to upgrade my PC at around the same time, it would be good to get more specific details about the recommended specs, and information about supported/recommended GFX cards.
[10:48:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Timing looks good for me anyway - 06Consumer Version of Oculus Rift Coming in Early 2016 - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:56] <exec> 08└─Some details regarding AMD's R3xx series GFX cards have found their way onto Fudzilla show the R9 380 supports LiquidVR, while the 370 and 360 don't. VR extension tech aside, suitability of actual performance needs to be ascertained before making any purchasing judgement. Not that it matters yet - n...
[10:48:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02What could possibly go wrong with FB immersion? - 06Consumer Version of Oculus Rift Coming in Early 2016 - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:48:58] <exec> 08└─What could possibly go wrong with people immersed in celebrity babbling automatons where ever you look without your control (on a desktop) and at the same time ads being streamed directly to your visual cortex. People that lack proper brainwashing will be barred from the economy.
[10:49:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no longer on /.? - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:49:15] <exec> 08└─Conversations usually devolve to the lowest common denominator of human intelligence. Its starting to be a problem here too, with modding abuse. When every monkey has a keyboard, you cannot expect a conversation. People "talking" to each other, maybe.
[10:49:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't you mean - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:49:47] <exec> 08└─I think you mean "NORAH, GET MAH GUN, THEM DAMN RUSKIES IS FIRING SPACESHIPS AT US! I TOL' YOU BACK IN '86 THEY CAIN'T BE TRUSTED." Caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter caps filter...
[10:55:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:FOSS and Sexism - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:09] <exec> 08└─To add to your post, since Slashcode's HTML interpreter ate it: the markup symbols surrounding tags are < (Less Than) and > (Greater Than). For writing out explanations: *Code* *Displays As* & & < < > > If the above is horribly mis-aligned, you probably have your browser set to...
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[11:48:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'll gladly "fine tune" my car - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:48:08] <exec> 08└─If you pay for it. It's funny how few poor people are driving fully electric or even hybrids...
[11:48:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll gladly "fine tune" my car - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:09] <exec> 08└─How about if, instead, we just tax the rich at a higher rate, and use that money to subsidize bus service so that poor people have less incentive to drive shitty cars?
[11:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Well Golly let's use the Death Penalty - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:48:11] <exec> 08└─All y'all think the death penalty for spammers is a great idea, right? Let's just kill everyone who drives a polluting car. That'll solve everything!
[11:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Trucks, tractors, etc. - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:48:13] <exec> 08└─I'm on mobile just now, so can't hunt sources. IIRC this is even more true of trucks, tractors and heavy diesel powered machinery. Often poorly maintained, and many running without the particle filters required on newer vehicles.
[11:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Trucks, tractors, etc. - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:14] <exec> 08└─If you think those are bad, wait until you find what ships in international waters running on bunker oil are doing to the environment. I know the Daily Mail isn't exactly the greatest source, but here's the first article I found on the subject [dailymail.co.uk].
[11:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Trucks, tractors, etc. - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:16] <exec> 08└─Well the rules for OHVs are not very stringent at least in the US. Then again my impression having seen some of them in action is that they want them running as efficiently as possible as the bottom line matters so they might not be as bad as I think.
[11:48:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oral Tradition is best - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:28] <exec> 08└─No wonder the little catholic boys seem to remember everything...
[11:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Flexible Image Transport System - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:48:29] <exec> 08└─The summary might have included a link for the FITS format [wikipedia.org] since I'm surely not the only one who hadn't heard of it before.
[11:48:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh the hue and cry.... - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:54] <exec> 08└─Why would you mention code-words on you Linkedin profile?
[11:49:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Out-of-Control Russian - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:49:42] <exec> 08└─Out of Western control, maybe, but Vladimir Vladimirovich is very much in control of himself.
[11:50:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:50:04] <exec> 08└─You raise a valid point, and a very specific one. If enough users raise this very point to Valve, then hopefully they will listen. That doesn't mean that Steam in its entirety isn't useful. What if Steam enabled you to loan specific titles to specific family members (i.e. Steam accounts) so you coul...
[11:55:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what now? - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:55:08] <exec> 08└─Dude has got a 4 inch swastika tattoo. You don't make that kind of commitment for the lulz.
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[12:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 023D printed lawsuit? - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:33] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't have thought that you can also 3D print a gun lawsuit.
[12:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dogeball [814] (Score:1) 02Equivalent to shipping a blueprint - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:34] <exec> 08└─It should be exactly as legal to post weapon 3D files online as is to send a blueprint of the same weapon in the mail overseas. Is that protected by free speech?
[12:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:2) 02Its not a gun its directions on how to make a gun - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:36] <exec> 08└─To me it seems pretty simple: these are plans for a firearm, not an actual firearm. The government should not be able to restrict this any more than they can restrict a book on gunsmithing which contains plans for a gun in it. Just like the fight on cryptographic software sourcecode, the government...
[12:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Easy answer, but it's not going to work - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 1089 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:46] <exec> 08└─If you could actually organize a bus service in a US city that people want to ride, sure. Is that even possible? First, the cities are so spread out; creating a sufficiently dense bus network would require a huge number of buses and routes. Worse, there seems to be a huge psychological barrier to bu...
[12:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Easy answer, but it's not going to work - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:48] <exec> 08└─If you could actually organize a bus service in a US city that people want to ride, sure. Is that even possible?
[12:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Trucks, tractors, etc. - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:51] <exec> 08└─And what exactly do you propose we should do with that cheapest, filthiest, high-sulphur fuel: the thick residues left behind in refineries after the lighter liquids have been taken
[12:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Sounds about right - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 1506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:53] <exec> 08└─Given what I have seen and smelled on the highway in traffic this doesn't sound unreasonable. Even with modern emission controls and testing there are still a large number of vehicles that are just pollution factories. So look like they are fogging for mosquitoes as they go down the free way and I u...
[12:48:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:Oral Tradition is best - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:06] <exec> 08└─Look, I moderated you funny, except that it isn't funny but still had to laugh out loud, so I guess it's funny. Offtopic: Recently there were a lot of comments I wanted to moderate "+1 Sad, but true", any chance this will get implemented?
[12:48:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Flexible Image Transport System - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:08] <exec> 08└─FITS is the "standard" in the astronomical community, largely for the reasons mentioned in the summary (open, 64 bit, etc.).
[12:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Flexible Image Transport System - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:11] <exec> 08└─I would be surprised if the majority of readers of this site were astronomers.
[12:48:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Flexible Image Transport System - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:12] <exec> 08└─largely for the reasons mentioned in the summary (open, 64 bit, etc.)
[12:48:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02I can still access/update my résumé from college - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 1055 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:14] <exec> 08└─Written in (Plain) TeX. I still have some really bad poetry from high school which was written using Scripsit and AppleWrite which I've managed to keep files of --- had to keep transferring from format to format as machines which understood both formats became available: - Apple ][ disk loaded i...
[12:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Much ado about nothing - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:45] <exec> 08└─What kind of "secret codewords" are they talking about? You are allowed to mention that you have a security clearance and you can put things like "TS/SCI" on your resume. I scanned the first 30 or so resumes that were presented and I didn't see anything wrong with what was there. Certainly no "secre...
[12:49:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 964 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:49:46] <exec> 08└─The problem is that DRM is never going to do what it should do - Completely stop pirates, and give legal users full access. There are just too many use cases where an external observer cannot determine if it's a legal or an illegal transaction. Something as simple taking backup copies for personal u...
[12:50:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Screwy maths? - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:50:49] <exec> 08└─Celsius / Centigrade meaningless? 0 = freezing point of water, 100 = boiling point of water, that seems fairly meaningful to me. Particularly compared to Fahrenheit with its freezing point illogically at 32.
[12:51:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] 02Re:Probably pending the supremes, though - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 114 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:51:21] <exec> 08└─The Supremes? Cease and desist? It's a shame they didn't just tell them to Stop in the Name of Love [youtube.com].
[12:53:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Marand [1081] 02Re:Good education, but incomplete - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 1111 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:20] <exec> 08└─Yep. Had to deal with that once in western NY because I was out with a relative after 10pm (no joke) and the state police decided that was suspicious. Tried making all sorts of ludicrous claims, starting with lack of seatbelts but getting increasingly desperate. They went for the "weaving" argument,...
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[13:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] (Score:2) 02Re:Equivalent to shipping a blueprint - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:35] <exec> 08└─The 1st amendment protects it, but that doesn't mean people won't try to suppress it. The entire thing is absurd, as schematics for actual weapons have been available forever [PDF] [weaponeer.net], and most firearms are simple enough to be reverse engineered provided. Attempting to ban the printer f...
[13:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Equivalent to shipping a blueprint - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:36] <exec> 08└─Yes this is absurd. But the fact about how the world actually runs is that bullying works. This guy who loves guns and free speech will be overpowered by those who hate his guns or hate free his speech. The political class wants all the guns and free speech for themselves, everyone else can STFU....
[13:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Time was the world wanted the U.S. to arm them - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:47:39] <exec> 08└─Even individual citizens: http://www.examiner.com [examiner.com] Family folklore is that that shipment included a cut-down Remington No. 4 rolling block rifle which my uncle had sawn-off w/ a hacksaw (he'd take the rifle in payment of a b...
[13:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time was the world wanted the U.S. to arm them - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:41] <exec> 08└─Yes, but times and circumstances change. Obviously, in the Wild West where people travelled by horse and a good sized town was one with a few hundred residents, citizens needed to be armed.
[13:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02New version of Wack-a-Mole announced... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:47:43] <exec> 08└─It is obvious that even after all this time, governments still have not grasped the fact that the internet has fundamentally changed our 'world' forever. The cat is out of the bag, and the genie is out of it's bottle, and the world's governments are effectively trying to herd cats in a burning barn....
[13:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:New version of Wack-a-Mole announced... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:45] <exec> 08└─I think they are going to have as much success keeping 'files' inside national boundaries as they have had ridding the internet of porn.
[13:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy answer, but it's not going to work - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 1002 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:54] <exec> 08└─>Yes, I think it's quite possible, so long as you meet 3 conditions >1. Keep it cheaper than driving. >2. Go to where people need to travel. >3. Be reliable on your scheduling. I think Berlin (Germany) does. There's a nice map [fahrinfo.vbb.de] of Berlin with live data of all public transport. To sh...
[13:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy answer, but it's not going to work - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:56] <exec> 08└─When I was visiting Berlin a few years ago, I got around quite happily on the U-Bahn and S-Bahn, including getting out to Potsdam. I'd recommend it to anybody. However, I'm also enough of an oddball to enjoy walking around the Tiergarten in January.
[13:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 021%er - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:48:03] <exec> 08└─My car causes 99% of all air pollution. It's a hybrid- it runs on dinosaur blood and hippie tears.
[13:48:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] 02Re:File Formats cannot be "open source" - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 242 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:48:13] <exec> 08└─Probably they meant Open Format [wikipedia.org]. The ideology behind it is the same as for Open Source, so for a less technical person it's easy to confuse, I guess, and the more technical persons probably can correctly assume what was meant.
[13:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02reframing the discussion - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:48:23] <exec> 08└─Did open source just become a religious crusade?
[13:49:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Its Dead Jim - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 173 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:49:24] <exec> 08└─According to this tracking page http://www.satflare.com [satflare.com] its already reentered over Tiara Del Fuego about 5 minutes before I posted this.
[13:49:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Moru [1248] (Score:1) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:49:58] <exec> 08└─This is because you can't own things on Steam. You have only rented the title, it's not yours to borrow to your brother.
[13:51:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Screwy maths? - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:51:02] <exec> 08└─32 was perfectly logical at the time the scale was devised. But it's not like you have the entire internet at your fingertips to go find out why.
[13:51:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Screwy maths? - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:51:04] <exec> 08└─yes, perfectly logical since most of us (then and now) love a nice brine ice cube. Sorry, I'm afraid that seems a little bit specialist compared to a scale defined by state changes in the same substance.
[13:51:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:51:58] <exec> 08└─Please do. But don't feel the situation is hopeless. That just makes it easier for them.
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[14:47:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03EQ [1716] 02Its not a gun its directions on how to make a gun - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 409 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:44] <exec> 08└─To me it seems pretty simple: these are plans for a firearm, not an actual firearm. The government should not be able to restrict this any more than they can restrict a book on gunsmithing which contains plans for a gun in it. Just like the fight on cryptographic software sourcecode, the government...
[14:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02Re:New version of Wack-a-Mole announced... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 1399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:49] <exec> 08└─The point of this prosecution may not be keeping those files in the US as much as harrassing Defense Distributed, viewed as a potential source of social instability. I know it was popular among the cypherpunks and turn-of-the-millennium Slashbots to claim the internet would change everything with re...
[14:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy answer, but it's not going to work - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:03] <exec> 08└─Long-term solution: get rid of zoning laws that prevent high-density development, and the problem will fix itself. Ever been to New York City? The public transit ain't pretty and it ain't clean, but it gets the job done.
[14:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Katastic [3340] (Score:1) 02Re:I'll gladly "fine tune" my car - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:04] <exec> 08└─Here's a thought, how about we give ACTUAL substantial incentives for buying electric cars, and enact laws that require electric cars be a certain percentage of all sales? We can subsidize "corn" (which actually raises all our damn costs and pollution) to "reduce pollution" but actually cutting out...
[14:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Katastic [3340] (Score:1) 02Re:Trucks, tractors, etc. - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:11] <exec> 08└─The work trucks I saw were all pretty well maintained. It was general consumers who didn't give a shit about their cars, chopped their catalytic converters off because "it gave them horsepower" and so on. That's why we had to have a law made that made it illegal to remove your catalytic converter, a...
[14:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score:1) 02What about coal rollers? - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:48:15] <exec> 08└─I am not sure on the spin on it being just conservatives but I have seen this in the past. Coal Rollers [businessinsider.com]
[14:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:File Formats cannot be "open source" - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:27] <exec> 08└─If you are talking about 50-years out do patents really matter? Patents aren't like copyright. By that time they should be all public domain.
[14:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:reframing the discussion - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:38] <exec> 08└─No. In unrelated news, the documents will be accessed with Emacs.
[14:49:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02Re:Its Dead Jim - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:40] <exec> 08└─Tiara Del Fuego
[14:50:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Re:I love GOG, but why? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:50:15] <exec> 08└─Although steam will do anything it can to make you believe you are buying something, you are absolutely right. At best you are renting your content, and they reserve the right to take it away from you at any time whatsoever for any reason whatsoever. No money back! This is exactly why you should cho...
[14:52:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:What does this change? - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 772 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:52:26] <exec> 08└─> There seems to be no limit on how small that crime can be, or how long "promptly" means. Well, this is the same government who say "collected" means "passed through human hands". https://fas.org [fas.org] 'Collection. Information shall be considered as "collected" only...
[14:53:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Easy answer - 06What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:53:50] <exec> 08└─This and the other tips work better if you're not a black guy. Otherwise you may end up being the black guy with the bullet holes, or broken spine, or broken whatever else.
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[15:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02How dare they innovate? - 06Chinese Phone Maker ZTE Makes an Android Device With an Interactive Frame - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:33] <exec> 08└─It could have a few uses, but expect disasters when your kid brings you your phone. Expect it to be the genius idea of the century as soon as the iphone 8 introduces it. Now you're really holding it right!
[15:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New version of Wack-a-Mole announced... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:53] <exec> 08└─as in spite of the potential economic hit to the US
[15:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:54] <exec> 08└─Free speech is in the constitution. Arms control is NOT in the constitution. Quite the opposite - the constitution guarantees us the right to keep and bear arms. There are no restrictions in the constitution on barrel length, barrel circumference, chamber length, firing mechanism, weight of projecti...
[15:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02To paraphrase Clemencau - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 1006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:56] <exec> 08└─"Freedom is too important to leave it to the courts." This is a matter that is too important to be decided by the fortunes of a court of law. As they say, "on high seas and before courts of law, you are in god's hands". I think that such things should be decided by the will of the constituents (e.g....
[15:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:To paraphrase Clemencau - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:57] <exec> 08└─On the topic itself, I'm generally pro-free-information, but here's a hypothetical case to think about: Imagine someone comes up with a hydrodynamic lens fusion igniter that can run away and get a gigaton bang from household chemistry, or set off doomsday with some cobalt added. Print the frame on a...
[15:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Get a grip.... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 1230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:59] <exec> 08└─It's not that the State Department like bullying citizens, or some grand conspiracy of Obama/FEMA-grabs-guns. Keep in mind the State Department is concerned with relations with other countries, as well as treaty enforcement. Obviously, some nation which has strict gun control (I'd guess England or J...
[15:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Get a grip.... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:02] <exec> 08└─Ultimately nobody is harmed
[15:48:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] 02Re:I'll gladly "fine tune" my car - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 167 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:07] <exec> 08└─How about if, instead, we just tax the rich at a higher rate, and use that money to subsidize bus service so that poor people have less incentive to drive shitty cars?
[15:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy answer, but it's not going to work - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 1363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:13] <exec> 08└─It's pretty easy to organize a bus service that people would want to use. It's just expensive (and, as you mentioned, requires lots of routes and buses). It involves three main things: 1. A high-frequency grid (buses running every 20 minutes on most routes, and frequent intersections of routes) 2. F...
[15:48:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy answer, but it's not going to work - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:14] <exec> 08└─This, n.b., in Austin, which is supposed to be a super-progressive city.
[15:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Trucks, tractors, etc. - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:20] <exec> 08└─Doesn't really matter what we do with it as long as we're not burning it. Stick it back in the holes it came out of for all I care.
[15:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about coal rollers? - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:26] <exec> 08└─Coal Rollers: http://www.businessinsider.com [businessinsider.com]
[15:48:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:File Formats cannot be "open source" - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:39] <exec> 08└─Good-point, but there's less use in an archive which can only be used in the future, but not in the present. You wouldn't want your library to get the latest trendy novels and then not lend them out for a couple of decades, would you?
[15:49:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Big change a' comin' - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 2621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:43] <exec> 08└─This is something I've been predicting for a while. We've automated out of existence most of the highly-skilled manufacturing jobs -- machinists, welders, and the like. Takes a fraction of the number of people to make a widget than it used to. Many of us here have personally automated out of existen...
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[15:50:17] <exec> 08└─These are things I would uncheck in the installer. My game distribution service needs to be reliable, but I don't care for them recording my chats, nor do I care about achievements. There are very few "achievements" in games that I care about, if you could call it that. I am still a fan of the high...
[15:50:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not GameSpy compatible? - 06GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:50:35] <exec> 08└─Games that still have a community have simply patched out GameSpy support to keep it from breaking the game, such as Neverwinter Nights. NWN just relies on direct IP connection now.
[15:51:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03everdred [110] (Score:2) 02Re:Saving the driving experience - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:51:11] <exec> 08└─There's no mod for "Half-right" or "Well-intentioned with a side of crazy" so I modded it Interesting.
[15:51:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02No coffee? Have some tea.. - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 157 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:32] <exec> 08└─Oh, no, THE TEA AS WELL?! http://www.bbc.com [bbc.com] Knew we were doomed. Had no idea we wouldn't caffeinated beverages..
[15:51:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Screwy maths? - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:51:38] <exec> 08└─Celsius also requires specially selected water and conditions to freeze at 0. The vast majority of water in the world (no I am not playing cheap and using the argument that seawater is the most common, but it is) will never freeze at 0 Celsius. Some freeze warmer, most freeze colder. Don't believe m...
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[15:55:26] <exec> 08└─I agree with everything you have posted. Last I checked the overall "non-reciprocal domestic violence" was perpetrated 70% of the time by women, but it is not even wort finding a source for considering crimes are rarely recorded when it is a woman against a man, thus really muddying up the waters an...
[15:55:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:what now? - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:33] <exec> 08└─If he got out more, then how could he watch more MSNBC?
[15:55:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:"People of colour" - 06Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:41] <exec> 08└─Ok, so what exactly would you to prefer to call the disparate group of minority races in the US that all have the same trait of visible skin color differentiation? That's a mouthful for everyday use...
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[16:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:34] <exec> 08└─All the whiz-bang gadgets happily blinking their LED's and chatting away on your wireless router proudly sporting their official "Energy Star" rating decals.
[16:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:35] <exec> 08└─If they're chatting away then they're doing something. Not sure that meets the definition of 'ironic'.
[16:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:37] <exec> 08└─Woooooosssssshhhhhhhh.....
[16:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:38] <exec> 08└─It's not a wooosh if you have to be ignorant to get it. It's the opposite, in fact.
[16:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:How dare they innovate? - 06Chinese Phone Maker ZTE Makes an Android Device With an Interactive Frame - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:45] <exec> 08└─Yeah, the apple watch followed the pebble by, what, 2 years? With no new features. And people still did the "it's revolutionary" thing. How did Apple ever manage to maneuver themselves into a position where people take them so seriously?
[16:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:How dare they innovate? - 06Chinese Phone Maker ZTE Makes an Android Device With an Interactive Frame - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:47] <exec> 08└─How did Apple ever manage to maneuver themselves into a position where people take them so seriously?
[16:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02phonefapping - 06Chinese Phone Maker ZTE Makes an Android Device With an Interactive Frame - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:48] <exec> 08└─... changing screen brightness by swiping up or down along both sides.
[16:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Re:3D printed lawsuit? - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:56] <exec> 08└─Actually, I think you can do that with a 2D printer.
[16:48:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Equivalent to shipping a blueprint - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:01] <exec> 08└─and of course, I meant lose.
[16:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Equivalent to shipping a blueprint - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:03] <exec> 08└─Oh right, they would, I didn't think of that, very clever. And since most of the 2nd amendment support is support from manufacturers he doesn't have much to hold him up. This is truly an uphill battle. Possible unlikely plot twist: they do want him to win, waiting for an accident to boost their sa...
[16:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Equivalent to shipping a blueprint - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:05] <exec> 08└─New plot twist: they help him win. Put blueprints for really dangerous weapons online, which a psycho uses to murder children in their classroom. Instantly, the president rushes to do ... nothing. Crap, another dead end! New plot twist: blue prints are used by Ze Eeevil Terrorizts to attack a gun sh...
[16:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time was the world wanted the U.S. to arm them - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:07] <exec> 08└─Absolutely. At that time robbery in a sparsely populated continent was a serious problem. Now, there is an order of magnitude more people actively trying to cause mass death of innocent civilians. Given that wanton slaughter is worse than robbery, the citizenry should be more armed now, not less. Ti...
[16:48:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:Time was the world wanted the U.S. to arm them - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:09] <exec> 08└─People haven't changed, and the U.S. is still sufficiently wild enough that a black bear was trapped by the game commission a couple of hundred yards from my (suburban) home. Coyotes have been making their way back, and wolves have been reintroduced. My father's home was 20 minutes from the county s...
[16:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Time was the world wanted the U.S. to arm them - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:11] <exec> 08└─OMG bears! I need a turret-mounted cal .45 on my car. While it does take a decent caliber to take down an angry bear (a .22 is enough to scare any animal that's just patrolling around), the wildlife excuse is a bit of a stretch for most weapons on the market.
[16:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:New version of Wack-a-Mole announced... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:15] <exec> 08└─I specifically said "potential" to ward off circle-jerk debates about whether a pirated download is necessarily a lost sale.
[16:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:New version of Wack-a-Mole announced... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:16] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I know all of that, and the only thing I was addressing was this: ..., so it's no surprise the US government would do something to discourage that kind of activity.
[16:48:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:18] <exec> 08└─An export control, which is the topic under discussion, does not affect your ability to keep and bear arms domestically. The Congress shall have power ... regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes; Article 1, Section 8, Clause...
[16:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:19] <exec> 08└─Good! Then walk down main street open-carrying your untaxed grenade launcher. I'll be very interested to see how long you can last without being controlled.... or have the ultimate control applied to you. (And I am very pro-gun, BTW, but think that rights - even Bill of Rights guaranteed - are not q...
[16:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:21] <exec> 08└─Good! Then walk down main street open-carrying your untaxed grenade launcher.
[16:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:23] <exec> 08└─"untaxed grenade launcher" You do realize that despite popular belief, you can have a Thompson, or any other machine gun, with the government's approval - IF YOU PAY THE FEES!! Yes, you stated your case more accurately than you intended. You may exercise all the rights that you might want to exercis...
[16:48:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03naubol [1918] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:24] <exec> 08└─There's nothing in the constitution about clear and present danger or any of the other numerous restrictions on free speech. Aside from the legal justifications, these restrictions are allowed because to do otherwise would be insane. In a similar fashion, if you agree that we should restrict citizen...
[16:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:26] <exec> 08└─There's nothing in the constitution about clear and present danger or any of the other numerous restrictions on free speech.
[16:48:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:Get a grip.... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 1311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:28] <exec> 08└─No. Absolutely nothing you just said is acceptable or even remotely correct. There is a known, deterministic hierarchy of the laws in this country, and it works as follows: The ConstitutionTreaties, trade agreements between nations which have been ratified by the SenateThe US Code, passed by House a...
[16:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02Re:Get a grip.... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:30] <exec> 08└─There is a known, deterministic hierarchy of the laws in this country, and it works as follows:
[16:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Get a grip.... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:32] <exec> 08└─the State Department saves face instead of denying the request outright with a, "not gonna' do nuthin' for you, ally, free-speech-fuck-you!" They get to kiss the other nation first, anyway.
[16:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Easy answer, but it's not going to work - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:44] <exec> 08└─"saved myself about $50 a month even not accounting for the cost of owning a car." Saved yourself $50/month in opposed to ... walking? Renting a car? Taking a cab? Motorcycle?
[16:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy answer, but it's not going to work - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 3035 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:48] <exec> 08└─I live in New York City, which has an extensive public transportation system (bus, subway, light rail, ferry) so I think I can speak to this. 70% of New Yorkers don't own cars, so that's a pretty good measure of the quality and availability of public transportation here. The vast majority of commute...
[16:49:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This just in... - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:49:00] <exec> 08└─That which is older lasts longer and also contributes to the problem! Seriously, what part of this story is surprising????
[16:49:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02Not sure I want a format that's continually update - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:49:26] <exec> 08└─The summary says they like FITS because it's continuously updated, and don't like TIFF because it hasn't been updated since 1998. On the contrary, I'd have more confidence in a format that's remained unaltered for nearly 20 years, and be worried about a format that file nerds are constantly tinkerin...
[16:49:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh the hue and cry.... - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:49:50] <exec> 08└─The thing is putting that junk (and it is junk) on your resume is a good idea. Stay with me... What does a HR person look for? They look for the list of junk some middle manager spewed out. They then match it up. Thats it. They do not do any more thinking than that. Missing XYZ even though XYZ is a...
[16:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Big change a' comin' - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:20] <exec> 08└─Some of the former drivers will become traveling truck repairmen, until the truck software is good enough to anticipate that the little clink noise means trouble, or the phone-yakking idiot in the next lane needs an extra meter of margin. There's also the fun case where the road work crew makes it n...
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[17:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:40] <exec> 08└─It is if you're too stupid to realize that the "something" they're doing is in itself a waste of energy.
[17:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:41] <exec> 08└─Buy more efficient appliances, electronics, and miscellaneous devices, such as those labeled ENERGY STAR™, whether replacing old models or purchasing new ones; That's in the source article's call to action. What is the opposite of ironic?
[17:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:43] <exec> 08└─Rain on your wedding day? A free ride when you've already paid?
[17:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Funny) 02Bloody cable box... bloody humans - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:44] <exec> 08└─When I unplug the cable box (no off switch, no sleep mode), I get told that I'm a bad person because it takes over a minute to power back up... Because for someone who lives with me, apparently it's torture to wait a minute before watching commercials. Multiply by tens of millions.
[17:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Bloody cable box... bloody humans - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:46] <exec> 08└─We have a DVR that never shuts down - the "off" button really just turns off the signal (actually, it doesn't even do that any more - it shows a message telling you to turn off the TV). A standby mode which spins down the hard drive until it's needed to record or until someone turns the DVR on would...
[17:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Standby modes - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:48] <exec> 08└─Keep things in working order longer, doing hard shutdown has the inverse effect. What is wasted in electricty is saved in trash.
[17:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02another thing to factor in - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:50] <exec> 08└─Add to that the small and big fires caused by cheapo power supplies shorting or overheating.
[17:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:32] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I suppose that I'd have to agree that there is some line somewhere, regarding what a private citizen should own. At the very least, every citizen should be entitled to own any weapon that his local police department is permitted to own. Flash bang? Yep. If the cops can have them, then you and...
[17:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get a grip.... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:41] <exec> 08└─but you only make yourself look like an out-of-touch Aspie
[17:48:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy answer, but it's not going to work - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:57] <exec> 08└─At the time, I owned a car, so I could have driven it to work. Much of the cost for doing that would have been parking near the office, which was in an urban center, so the calculation was basically parking + gas - bus fare.
[17:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trucks, tractors, etc. - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:08] <exec> 08└─As I recall, the laws are changing on this in both Europe and the US.
[17:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:File Formats cannot be "open source" - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 952 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:30] <exec> 08└─My assumption is that if you are even considering the format you already have the program that reads it today. Maybe it was free, maybe it was purchased but you have it already. The problem is that in some number of years the reader program will not run on current equipment. You may not have older e...
[17:49:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong with FB immersion? - 06Consumer Version of Oculus Rift Coming in Early 2016 - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:52] <exec> 08└─Just don't launch the Oculus Facebook app. This is a gaming peripheral.
[17:50:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Dennis Weaver? - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:50:36] <exec> 08└─Maximum Overdrive: Don't forget the soundtrack by AC/DC!
[17:51:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Drake_Edgewater [780] (Score:1) 02Angry Chileans - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:51:02] <exec> 08└─Chilean people must be really pissed off. First the mudflows [wikipedia.org] at the driest desert on Earth, then two [reuters.com] volcanoes [bbc.com] erupt, and now a fireball from space almost fell over them. All in 2015. I heard that they blame president Michelle Bachelet for all natural disaste...
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[18:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:41] <exec> 08└─That would be true if what they were chatting wasn't just "I'm still here!" over and over again.
[18:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:42] <exec> 08└─How many amps do a few blinky LEDs use? 20mA x 10% duty each?
[18:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Bloody cable box... bloody humans - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:46] <exec> 08└─It literally isn't a huge power savings. Back when I had a cable digital PVR, the unit used 25W when on, and 20W when "off". The only obvious difference was that the hard drive was spun down in the latter. I have no idea what the heck 20W was being used for when idle, but for sure having the HDD spu...
[18:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Isn't it obvious! - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:48] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what the heck 20W was being used for
[18:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Standby modes - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:49] <exec> 08└─Someone labeled you "-0: Disagree", and it made me curious. Is there any scientific evidence about the effect on lifespan of (complex computerized) electronics for various power usage strategies? If we had that kind of scientific data we could make some tacit inferences. Does being constantly on do...
[18:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Katastic [3340] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:another thing to factor in - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:51] <exec> 08└─I've seen very rarely any problems with power supplies. And thank God, because I've got dozens if not hundreds in my house. The only ones in recent memory that caused problems are laughably, the Chinese eBay lithium batteries that go by the brand name "UltraFire". I've seen two chargers smoking/catc...
[18:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Re:another thing to factor in - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:53] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I avoid anything with "fire" in the name. AW batteries work for my needs and are good quality.
[18:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:4, Funny) 02Not allowed to turn off my own power. - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 1341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:54] <exec> 08└─The electricity company installed some new box that was supposed to give a better measurement of how much I consumed. I went away on a longer trip (about three months) and when I got home they where very upset with me, before I left I had turned off all the power, which in turn apparently also meant...
[18:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03GDX [1950] (Score:1) 02Re:Not allowed to turn off my own power. - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:56] <exec> 08└─I think that box was wrongly installed, normally those boxes should be installed before the main house breaker/switch. At least that is how is done where i live in Europe.
[18:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Not allowed to turn off my own power. - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:58] <exec> 08└─Sounds like they put the meter on the wrong side of your main cutoff switch. I'm pretty sure that on my installation the meter is on the supply side of the cutoff breaker; it would be really odd if unloading the back side of that circuit cut off the meter from the street.
[18:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Equivalent to shipping a blueprint - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:22] <exec> 08└─It's even easier to bully when you have a gun. Not everyone who supports gun control hates freedom, in fact very few do.
[18:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:42] <exec> 08└─'amend the constitution'. you're serious? you can't be. we can't even pass laws with agreement (unless those are 'control' laws that just repress us even more). there won't ever be any new ammendments. its impossible and you know it. stop saying stupid shit. we long ago lost control of our governmen...
[18:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:43] <exec> 08└─There's nothing in the constitution about clear and present danger or any of the other numerous restrictions on free speech.
[18:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll gladly "fine tune" my car - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:16] <exec> 08└─There were no viable offerings to spend a few billions on electric cars at the cash-for-clunkers time. You seem to underestimate the amount of pollution that could be taken off the roads just by giving a few grand to each owner. On the other hand, the threshold to qualify weren't exactly green, as v...
[18:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Trucks, tractors, etc. - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:24] <exec> 08└─When I lived in Chicago, lots of city-fleet and local delivery trucks were scary as hell, as they engulfed two or three cars behind them in thick black soot when taking off at each green light. And there are lots of red lights in Chicago.
[18:49:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02Re:Sounds about right - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:26] <exec> 08└─In theory, cars with On-Board Diagnostics (anything from the last 20 years) don't go out of tune without a "check engine" light coming on. Even if everything is working as designed, there's still going to be one group of vehicles that are worse than others. I don't see in TFA where this is quantifie...
[18:49:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Take away cars from all those poor people - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 3587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:49:33] <exec> 08└─Every time I read something like this I get concerned about pushes to essentially take away cars from poor people. Being a poor person myself, and needing to own, and very much liking owning a car, this is frightening to me. I generally own cars manufactured in the 1990's. (I'd like to state that I...
[18:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:File Formats cannot be "open source" - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:48] <exec> 08└─You are leaving out the problem that writing a good reader program is a LOT harder than just reading a file. So it's much better to use a format that already has a good reader WHICH CAN BE MAINTAINED as hardware changes. And already I have files that I can only read on MSWind95, because later versio...
[18:49:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:For scanned documents - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:50] <exec> 08└─The only time I've ever seen that file format used was some old Russian nixie tube datasheets I downloaded. I just kind of figured it was some obscure format that caught on in Russia for whatever reason, or something. Didn't give it much thought. From what you say, pity it's not more popular. I'll h...
[18:49:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Translation Error [718] (Score:1) 02Re:For scanned documents - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:51] <exec> 08└─I feel like I've used that format before but can't place a specific instance.
[18:49:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Flexible Image Transport System - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:58] <exec> 08└─I would be surprised if the majority of readers of this site were astronomers.
[18:50:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Not sure I want a format that's continually upd - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:50:04] <exec> 08└─Perhaps the concern is something that's not being actively developed might lose the focus of the mainstream at some point in the future, and thus readers/writers fall into obscurity (except for that token hypothetical one that is barely being kept alive by that one guy and it kinda sucks?) I mean, I...
[18:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong with FB immersion? - 06Consumer Version of Oculus Rift Coming in Early 2016 - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:50:16] <exec> 08└─There is always a Star Trek Episode Relevant [memory-alpha.org] to the discussion. The funny thing is, in that episode, the babbling Automaton Data was the one who saved the crew from The Game.
[18:51:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Big change a' comin' - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:51:04] <exec> 08└─You really think America's out-of-work truckers will just move to Europe/Asia?
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[19:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It has SystemD. - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:34] <exec> 08└─Don't bother with anything that runs Debian.
[19:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02allwinner? - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:35] <exec> 08└─Allwinner has done things like put out a $5, quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 [tomshardware.com], but the comments on makezine are trashing them. Also, while it may be more powerful than the "Raspberry Pi B+", I doubt it can match the Raspberry Pi 2 Model B ("900MHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 CPU"). Don't forg...
[19:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02cheap Chinese tablets - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:37] <exec> 08└─So, what's the quality of this $9 computer like? I remember the time I bought a cheap USB drive instead of a Lexar, and the cheap one went bad in a month or two. Are these cheap computers similar in quality? What kind of parts do they have inside them?
[19:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:1) 02Re:Bloody cable box... bloody humans - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:57] <exec> 08└─Okay, it's only 5 watts, but isn't that kind of the point of the article? These relatively small vampire loads adding up?
[19:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Standby modes - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:00] <exec> 08└─To follow up, I can find no rigorous academic articles on the problem. I can find news articles, that directly contradict eachother. This one that says it rebooting causes wear and tear [chron.com]. And this one that alleges those damages are negligible [scientificamerican.com]. Toms hardware has a...
[19:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Standby modes - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:02] <exec> 08└─This is something that comes up when designing datacenters and other large-compute initiatives. Everybody seems to use their own internal documents on electricity cost and hardware failures for their empirical evidence. The short version is this: once upon a time yes, it was better to keep things ru...
[19:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Standby modes - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:04] <exec> 08└─Oh boo hoo. An internet stranger phrased something from their own point of view. How self centered!
[19:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:another thing to factor in - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:07] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I avoid anything with "fire" in the name.
[19:48:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02GD Toaster! - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:48:11] <exec> 08└─I have to unplug my goddam toaster after I'm done using it because it has LEDs that are on all the time. It drives my bat shit crazy that some idiot designer felt the need for ANY lights on a toaster.
[19:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:2) 02My mom - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:48:13] <exec> 08└─Heard essentially the same story many years ago. For the last 10 years my mom unplugs her toaster when she's not using it.
[19:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02Meanwhile... - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 934 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:48:15] <exec> 08└─CFLs are touted as the best thing to save the environment... The mind boggles. I could never stand how my PS3 did not have a real OFF button that was accessible. Seriously, having to lift your ass from the couch is such a bad thing? With SSDs and fast CPUs nowadays, there is no reason not to shut do...
[19:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:Meanwhile... - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:16] <exec> 08└─Well, the mercury content of CFLs is now causing problems in landfills, but who can keep track these days?
[19:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:How dare they innovate? - 06Chinese Phone Maker ZTE Makes an Android Device With an Interactive Frame - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:25] <exec> 08└─And an army of hipsters that will shout down anyone that dares speak ill of Apple.
[19:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Equivalent to shipping a blueprint - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:45] <exec> 08└─Given the number of people that support the NSA's mass surveillance, the TSA, the prohibition of drugs (besides perhaps marijuana, as there's more opposition there), censorship, and many other things, that seems *very* unlikely. There are simply too many people on who support any of those things to...
[19:48:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time was the world wanted the U.S. to arm them - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:52] <exec> 08└─Have you actually been do a gun store? The vast majority of guns sold are for hunting. Presumably wildlife I'm sure.
[19:49:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:06] <exec> 08└─there won't ever be any new ammendments. its impossible and you know it.
[19:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:08] <exec> 08└─The Constitution was written very broadly as it was intended to be a "living document"
[19:49:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get a grip.... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:18] <exec> 08└─Obviously a physics major.
[19:50:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:File Formats cannot be "open source" - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 2077 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:13] <exec> 08└─Some poeple in this thread looks like they are missing some points, so I thought I'd share some of my thoughts. I'm building a digital library at work, and while the main focus is research papers, it will contain thousands (at some point probably millions) pages of digitized works. Also, that's my f...
[19:50:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:File Formats cannot be "open source" - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:15] <exec> 08└─Standards are great, but they still need to be updated from time to time (HTML5?).
[19:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:File Formats cannot be "open source" - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:16] <exec> 08└─THe point being, that HTML5 is bringing some much needed updates. We'd be stuck with flash without it.
[19:50:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02ASCII - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:50:33] <exec> 08└─ASCII is your best bet for everything.
[19:50:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Who would want it? - 06Consumer Version of Oculus Rift Coming in Early 2016 - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:41] <exec> 08└─Huh, not sure whether there is an appropriate mod for this. Seems on-topic, with an attempt at a joke. It's a "dad joke" level of pun, almost a groaner, but kinda fell flat. Troll's close enough, I guess, but would a "-0 Unfunny" be possible for a future update?
[19:51:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Big change a' comin' - 06Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:51:35] <exec> 08└─I don't expect it would ever happen, but I'd pay to watch if it ever did...
[19:53:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Can you save/load? - 06New Type of Memristors Used to Create a Limited Neural Net - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:53:41] <exec> 08└─So how long until RIAA/MPAA media will be delivered on memristor storage?
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[20:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:3, Informative) 02Kickstarter link - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:36] <exec> 08└─https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer [kickstarter.com] Some major takeaways: Units ship at end of year, depending on what you purchaseVideo is composite on board or optional expansion card for VGA or HDMI (good compromise for headless installs)Battery mana...
[20:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Summary: Hertz == Hz - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:37] <exec> 08└─The surname of Heinrich Hertz is always capitalized, even when abbreviated, even when preceded by an SI unit, even when that SI unit is a capital letter. -- gewg_
[20:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bringing costs down - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:40] <exec> 08└─This reminds me of the device with the cardboard case. [google.com] -- gewg_
[20:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:52] <exec> 08└─The device cannot judge the value of the energy it's using. In one case it wastes energy, in another case it's energy well spent. If can you stupid it down to "all same fo efferybuddy!!" then yes, it's ironic, to them.
[20:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 1638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:57] <exec> 08└─That's by design. There's still a reason they're chatty regardless of if the operator is utilizing it properly, something Energy Star cannot possibly regulate. For example: I could burn electricity with my Energy Star Certified CRT monitor with no computer attached, that doesn't make it ironic that...
[20:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:59] <exec> 08└─It's not so much the LEDs as the other parts still running.
[20:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Bloody cable box... bloody humans - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:05] <exec> 08└─Forget the 5W from the drive. Why would it use 20W when idle? Cheapo laptops don't use that much when running 1080p screens. 20W times 35 million idle boxes is one nuclear plant, or worse a couple coal plants, running for nothing (other than utility profits).
[20:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:another thing to factor in - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:15] <exec> 08└─Got fire in the name, nope don't trust them. How many are out there, how many have let the bad guys in :) Talking about batteries though :)
[20:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03RobotMonster [130] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:GD Toaster! - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:20] <exec> 08└─How else would you know if the toaster's internet connection was working or not?
[20:48:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:GD Toaster! - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:22] <exec> 08└─I have several small switches that plug into the wall and allow me to turn off wall warts/chargers and other devices without unplugging -- here's one variety, http://www.stetzerizer-us.com [stetzerizer-us.com] (ignore or laugh at the ignorant d...
[20:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02another reason to be a cord never - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 2037 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:25] <exec> 08└─My parents used UVerse briefly, when the FAA switched broadcast TV from analog to digital signals. Eventually, I changed their old analog tube TV for a much more efficient flatscreen with a digital tuner, and dumped the cable. What a waste of money that experiment turned out to be. We hardly watch a...
[20:48:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Its not a gun its directions on how to make a g - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:56] <exec> 08└─Even if they could ban detailed diagrams, there's nothing preventing this guy from publishing the plans in prose form, with no pictures at all. It'd be lengthy and wordy, but the diagrams could easily be converted into a written form. Basically, just describe, textually, the exact process for creati...
[20:49:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:18] <exec> 08└─Gun control will remain unconstitutional.
[20:49:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Get a grip.... - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:30] <exec> 08└─Physics major believes all legal questions are settled deterministically based on objective rules organized as a poset. Classic!
[20:50:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:For scanned documents - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:50:32] <exec> 08└─For archiving documents, reducing file size is (perhaps counter-intuitively) not the aim. Redundant features are good - redundancy increases longevity. PDF/A, the archiving PDF standard, ( http://www.digitalpreservation.gov [digitalpreservation.gov] ) in fact bloats files...
[20:50:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not sure I want a format that's continually upd - 06For Infallible Records, the Vatican Wants Open Source - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:50:46] <exec> 08└─They should use PCX format. That hasn't been updated since 1991. Or even better, use Sun Raster format. That hasn't been updated in 25 years.
[20:51:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh the hue and cry.... - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:51:16] <exec> 08└─So, by your reasoning, it's enough to put Emacs on a CV and be done with it?
[20:51:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh the hue and cry.... - 06Network Analysis of US Intelligence Community Released - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:51:18] <exec> 08└─Why would you mention code-words on you Linkedin profile? Wouldn't potential employers and others shy away from someone who can't keep their mouth shut?
[20:52:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Its Dead Jim - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:52:06] <exec> 08└─I save my best spelling for people that pay me. :P
[20:52:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Three tonnes of salvage! - 06Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:52:09] <exec> 08└─"whomever"
[20:53:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OMG let's panic - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 1020 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:53:51] <exec> 08└─It probably took you a lot longer to do that research and write that comment than it would have taken you to have read the paper and see where they addressed those kind of issues. For example: External factors such as pest and disease stress, economic liberalization programmes and reforms implement...
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[21:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Ow! - 06Death to C - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:37] <exec> 08└─Here’s a C program which will simply double all the input it’s given: int double_input(int input) { return input * 2; } To call this from Rust, you might write a program like this: extern crate libc; extern { fn double_input(input: libc::c_int) -> libc::c_int; } fn main()...
[21:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ow! - 06Death to C - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:38] <exec> 08└─Can't you just give me a garbage-collector instead?!
[21:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Suck my Rusty cock, now, brogrammer! - 06Death to C - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:40] <exec> 08└─Use the flavor-of-the-month language, because you're hip and with-it, coder bro! Can you fucking assholes be even more obvious with your shitty hipster evangelism? Not obvious enough! More. Obvious.
[21:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02It's like driving - 06Death to C - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:41] <exec> 08└─The overwhelming majority of C programmers will tell you they write safer code than average. They don't need no stinking protective overhead...
[21:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03pe1rxq [844] (Score:2) 02Re:It's like driving - 06Death to C - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:43] <exec> 08└─I would state it even more generic: The overwhelming majority of programmers will think they write safer code than average. They will manage to write crappy code in any language.
[21:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Embedded - 06Death to C - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:45] <exec> 08└─I'm not familiar with the speed of Rust, but when dealing with embedded systems, the speed of C is needed and thanks to its vast deployment has become a bit of a defacto standard.
[21:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Embedded - 06Death to C - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:46] <exec> 08└─but when dealing with embedded systems, the speed of C is needed
[21:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Embedded - 06Death to C - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:48] <exec> 08└─C will help you get fast and small, but it also makes reliable harder. Besides, nowadays "itsy-bitsy" systems are are 1GHz with 512MB of ram. [soylentnews.org]
[21:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Another hipster promoting another hipster language - 06Death to C - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:49] <exec> 08└─News at 11.
[21:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02useful software has already been written - 06Death to C - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:51] <exec> 08└─You want to rewrite Linux in Rust? Do you? Huh? Just compile your shitty code with AddressSanitizer and shut the fuck up already.
[21:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Too much marketing - 06Death to C - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:53] <exec> 08└─This is from the language home page: [rust-lang.org] Rust is a systems programming language that runs blazingly fast, prevents almost all crashes*, and eliminates data races.
[21:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Get off my Lawn - 06Death to C - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:54] <exec> 08└─Everyone should stop using C/C++ and start using a language in beta ... for Security reasons!!! Kids are *sooooo* cute.
[21:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02the language isn't the problem - 06Death to C - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:56] <exec> 08└─no matter what language you use, if you... are a shitty programmer...don't know how to use a debugger...think memory management is too complicated...don't understand what you are doing... then you are going to write shitty code.
[21:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It has SystemD. - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:59] <exec> 08└─Or you could just run sudo apt-get install sysvinit-core if you would rather use sysv init.
[21:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It has SystemD. - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:01] <exec> 08└─This is a Debian fork. I doubt it will be able to support a separate init system. I honestly don't understand why everyone and their mother chooses to use debian on their custom ARM device. Wouldn't a gentoo fork work better since most of the things you need would be able to be recompiled on the fly...
[21:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Summary: Hertz == Hz - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:05] <exec> 08└─The surname of Heinrich Hertz is always capitalized
[21:48:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:1, Troll) 02Vaporware - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 1024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:48:07] <exec> 08└─It gets old.... Back in the day product announcements were for things you could buy. Now the announcement is for a proposed new product that you might be able to buy something similar to in a year if you go throw money now at a crowdfunding website. In other words, it isn't a pitch to sell something...
[21:48:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vaporware - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:09] <exec> 08└─Wow. This is like the first time I've ever agreed with a jmorris post. Ok, the first half of a jmorris post. The second half he continues his nearly unbroken string of denying the reality that's right in front of him. For a minute there I thought I was losing it.
[21:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03dmbasso [3237] (Score:1) 02Re:Vaporware - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:11] <exec> 08└─Wow, couldn't you be a little bit more negative? I guess with enough effort you could still achieve that feat! For my part, I'm pretty happy with my Pi, which I use as my personal server for XMPP, HTTP, SSH (mainly for private git repositories), and other miscellaneous uses. When this C.H.I.P. is ou...
[21:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Vaporware - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:13] <exec> 08└─I'm partial to puns.
[21:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:25] <exec> 08└─As it was explained to me when I was young and "clever": if you have to explain it then it's not funny.
[21:48:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:28] <exec> 08└─Buy more stuff ... that takes a shit-ton more power/electricity/whatever to manufacture than it will ever save you compared to your existing devices. Hmm ... that sure does sound more "green" (green as in cash).
[21:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Standby modes - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:44] <exec> 08└─Childish would be the appropriate designation.
[21:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Standby modes - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:45] <exec> 08└─I concur with the others that the reply asking "Who cares who you are?" was uncalled for. I even agreed with questions asked, as I too would want to know data before buying into a position. Your reply, if taken into the context you have shaped your reply to be in, is irrelevant and is likely from so...
[21:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Meanwhile... - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:59] <exec> 08└─LEDs, actually, not CFLs, but the thing about CFLs and similar kinds of energy-efficient lighting is that those things last forever. As in, I'm still using light bulbs I installed about 10 years ago. That makes them both more efficient and cheaper than incandescents. But yes, shutting stuff off, by...
[21:49:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:another reason to be a cord never - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:01] <exec> 08└─Alright grandpa! I will get off the lawn already! Jeeze your cranky today.
[21:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:another reason to be a cord never - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:02] <exec> 08└─Regarding the clothes dryer: Yes, clothes will dry when hung outside, but they aren't very soft when they dry that way. Also, you have clothes hanging all over you house/yard. This may be against the rules of your homeowners association (if applicable). Regarding the shower: Your grandparents also h...
[21:49:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02brought to you by natural gas - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 1635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:49:04] <exec> 08└─i got a "base load" of about 350 watt. the energy hogs i cant and wont turn off and get really pissed about when getting another blackout are my fridge and two servers. the fridge is a two-door typ and one door goes to -18 deg. C (insta-cold-beer). also there are assorted wifi backhauls and lan swit...
[21:49:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:brought to you by natural gas - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:06] <exec> 08└─pay to fuck someone? sounds like a really really old business : )
[21:49:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03GDX [1950] (Score:1) 02The cost of going low cost. - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:49:07] <exec> 08└─Sometimes this is the result of trying to cut costs, sometimes is bad programing resulting from reduced development funds, in my experience one particular device with the original firmware it needed 10w at standby but this same device with some neat programing tricks (basically to take advance of in...
[21:49:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Time was the world wanted the U.S. to arm them - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:44] <exec> 08└─Shoot a bear or a wild boar with a .22 and you'll be lucky to live.
[21:50:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:50:01] <exec> 08└─In your interpretation of the constitution.
[21:50:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Constitutional - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 1404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:50:05] <exec> 08└─When these arguments come up I always say I'm quite reasonable and willing to compromise. Let us examine the 2nd in the spirit it was written in and the actual practice of the men who wrote and ratified it. The stated intent of the 2nd is not about hunting or sport shooting, it is explicitly about m...
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[22:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Ow! - 06Death to C - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:36] <exec> 08└─Takehome message: you have to write extra code to call unsafe code. I like Rust more now.
[22:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Ow! - 06Death to C - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:37] <exec> 08└─Can't you just give me a garbage-collector instead?!
[22:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Ow! - 06Death to C - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:39] <exec> 08└─Is there any proof that Rust code actually performs well? I know that the Rust compiler, which itself consists of a lot of Rust code, is really fucking slow. Although it builds on LLVM, I don't think that LLVM is to blame, because Clang uses it and Clang is still really damn fast when compiling C++...
[22:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02When the fuck will Rust 1.0 be out? - 06Death to C - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:41] <exec> 08└─As shitty as Rust code is, when the fuck will Rust 1.0 finally be out? It was promised to us like 6 months ago, and I'm pretty sure it was supposed to have been out even before then. Why can't the Rusters get their shit together? Why the fuck can't they get Rust 1.0 out the door? They're starting to...
[22:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Suck my Rusty cock, now, brogrammer! - 06Death to C - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:43] <exec> 08└─Rust is the kind of disaster that's only possible when you get a bunch of Ruby hipsters together, give them funding from Mozilla, and have them try to improve on C++. Nobody else could manage to create something as bad as Rust. That's probably why Rust is seen as "cutting edge". It's on the cutting...
[22:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Suck my Rusty cock, now, brogrammer! - 06Death to C - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:44] <exec> 08└─The parent comment isn't a troll. Somebody should fix that shitting modding. Anyone who has followed the Rust community knows it's fucking rife with hipsters. Anyone who has worked with software developed by hipsters will know how fucking shitty their creations are. Hipsters can't create good softwa...
[22:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:It's like driving - 06Death to C - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:47] <exec> 08└─If you want to do a buffer overflow on my last C application, you'll have to enter it using a 4 button keypad and a menu on a 1602 LCD, or pry off the "warranty void if removed" sticker and JTAG it, and then its not my problem. Does rust even run on an AVR?
[22:47:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02Too much marketing - 06Death to C - 175 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:52] <exec> 08└─This is from the language home page: [rust-lang.org] Rust is a systems programming language that runs blazingly fast, prevents almost all crashes*, and eliminates data races.
[22:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why the fuck are there so many Rust bugs? - 06Death to C - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:54] <exec> 08└─If Rust is supposed to make it harder to write buggy software, then why the fuck do Rust and Servo, the two largest Rust projects, suffer from so many goddamn bugs? Rust: 1,925 Open 11,500 Closed [github.com] Servo: 829 Open 1513 Closed [github.com] Yeah, Rust is totally preventing...
[22:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03dmbasso [3237] (Score:1) 02Re:the language isn't the problem - 06Death to C - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:56] <exec> 08└─To that I add: don't write tests then you are going to write minefield code. But hey, fuck whoever has to maintain it later, not your problem.
[22:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Then there are C strings - 06Death to C - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:58] <exec> 08└─The string implementation is taken for granted in the language, but it seems like it may not have been a great choice [joelonsoftware.com].
[22:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Then there are C strings - 06Death to C - 1380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:00] <exec> 08└─I think Joel is wrong. C is a great hammer when you need to hammer in nails. Do not blame the hammer for working poorly on screws. There's basically two ways to store string on the machine level: magic character terminated (null-terminated C strings) or you store the length of the string somewhere....
[22:48:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And always there is magical thinking - 06Death to C - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:02] <exec> 08└─Expecting things to happen by magic is not a great choice in *any* language. As this example, one out of thousands, does amply demonstrate: http://raid6.com.au [raid6.com.au] If a craftsman does not know his tools, it is not the tools that are to blame.
[22:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Then there are C strings - 06Death to C - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:04] <exec> 08└─Why the fuck should I care about what Joel thinks?
[22:48:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Carmack says he still finds it tricky - 06Death to C - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:06] <exec> 08└─Guess we should push it aside and all use Rust then. BTW when will Rust actually work?
[22:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Carmack says he still finds it tricky - 06Death to C - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:08] <exec> 08└─Carmack is still alive? What has he done lately?
[22:48:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Here we go again... - 06Death to C - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:09] <exec> 08└─What do Soylent's coders think about this?
[22:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02oooh I remember this one - 06Death to C - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:11] <exec> 08└─We called it Java. Oh wait python. Oh wait C# Oh wait PHP Oh wait javascript Oh wait and on and on. They are *all* riddled with security holes. What makes Rust special?
[22:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:oooh I remember this one - 06Death to C - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:13] <exec> 08└─Isn't it funny that almost all the wonderful examples on DailyWTF are of languages like the ones in your list, yet you barely find any examples of C (or even C++) code there. I wonder why...
[22:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Yeah, fuck you. - 06Death to C - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:14] <exec> 08└─I like C. It's a small language I can always remember pretty much all of, that runs everywhere, requires very little to get going on pretty much any chip ever, and powers most of the shit we use today. The world isn't a smouldering crater, and C's been around for a very long time. Yes, pointer and o...
[22:48:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why Debian? - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:17] <exec> 08└─Name recognition perhaps. It's the oldest extant distro. [unnes.ac.id] Everybody thinks: beaucoup pre-compiled packages (without thinking "for x86") -- gewg_
[22:48:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Summary: Hertz == Hz - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:24] <exec> 08└─Is the name --gewg_ is always lower case, preceded by two laser bursts, and followed by a trail of slug slime?
[22:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Summary: Hertz == Hz - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:26] <exec> 08└─Is the name --gewg_ is[sic] always lower case, If it is I, yes. preceded by two laser bursts, I never thought of it that way. That makes it sound kinda cool. (You missed the space.) and followed by a trail of slug slime? When you are following behind me, there's one after you. Maybe that's what conf...
[22:48:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't it ironic? - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:51] <exec> 08└─OS was complaining about der blinkenlights
[22:48:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mtrycz [60] 02Isn't it obvious! - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 51 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:55] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what the heck 20W was being used for
[22:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Meanwhile... - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:20] <exec> 08└─The CFLs from 10 years ago were manufactured to much higher standards, they were competing with cheap incandescents and trying to get accepted. Now that incandescents are banned, the lifetime of a CFL is between two months and two years depending on switch and duty cycles.
[22:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:another reason to be a cord never - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:24] <exec> 08└─Homeowners associations are full of fascists who would have swung if they had been at the Nuremberg trials. It's one of the biggest ironies about the Land of the Free that those organizations are tolerated, accepted, and even welcomed. Clothes dry just fine inside. 1 minute after putting them on, th...
[22:49:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:How dare they innovate? - 06Chinese Phone Maker ZTE Makes an Android Device With an Interactive Frame - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:37] <exec> 08└─sorry bob_super, I chose "Insightful", then pressed the End key to go to the bottom of the page, but the focus was on the combo box, so it selected "Spam" instead. too bad I can't undo it.
[22:50:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Time was the world wanted the U.S. to arm them - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:50:07] <exec> 08└─I'll take that bet if I get to choose the tree I'm shooting from. But my point was that unless you've already pissed off the bear, a warning shot is typically enough noise to convince him to go wander elsewhere. Living alongside dangerous animals doesn't require that you carry enough power to blow t...
[22:52:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Virtual desktop please - 06Consumer Version of Oculus Rift Coming in Early 2016 - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:52:09] <exec> 08└─Please, someone, please make an open source virtual desktop software for one of the many VR devices coming out. I can't wait to have a 360 degree surround desktop space to throw all of my windows around in. I would take a shot myself but I don't have the necessary hardware yet.
[22:54:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Re:dont get it - 06BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:54:09] <exec> 08└─Yes [wikipedia.org].
[22:54:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Screwy maths? - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:54:58] <exec> 08└─Celsius / Centigrade meaningless? 0 = freezing point of water, 100 = boiling point of water, that seems fairly meaningful to me. Particularly compared to Fahrenheit with its freezing point illogically at 32.
[22:55:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:OMG let's panic - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 1374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:55:03] <exec> 08└─Eh, I think he has a point. The elephant in the room, poor agricultural practices is mostly missing from the list except in indirectly citing some symptoms of it like pest and disease stress, and aging coffee trees. Keep in mind that this paper was supposed to be presented as an argument for a subst...
[22:55:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OK, now this is getting serious! - 06Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:55:04] <exec> 08└─If trends continue as they have in previous decade, the study says, Arabica yields in Tanzania will drop to around 320 pounds per hectare by 2060.
[22:56:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Re:I quote Andrew Jackson - 06Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:56:08] <exec> 08└─17 types of police [soylentnews.org] and no-one watches the watchers?
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[23:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Here's one for you... - 06The Failure of Agile Software Development - and How to Fix It - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:37] <exec> 08└─If you actually define something, and not just throw around nice-sounding BS, you are likely to get people to actually embrace and follow your concept. That last paragraph is an absolute abomination of well-meaning abstract fairyland, and therefore the result after 14 years in the cold hard reality...
[23:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Ow! - 06Death to C - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:49] <exec> 08└─Rust: Write once, write again!
[23:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ow! - 06Death to C - 1421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:51] <exec> 08└─That's been my experience with Rust. I wrote some code one weekend, I spent the following work week at work coding in C++, then went back to my hobbyist Rust code on the weekend. Well it turns out that during that single week a bunch of the language's syntax changed, so my code no longer compiled. I...
[23:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ow! - 06Death to C - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:53] <exec> 08└─...perhaps you should have waited until Rust is actually released?
[23:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Ow! - 06Death to C - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:54] <exec> 08└─So it's called "rust" because your code doesn't just bitrot, but actually rusts away if you don't constantly update it? Or is it more because your language knowledge will seem rusty already next week? :-) Well, maybe it's a security feature: It makes sure that unmaintained code will stop working qui...
[23:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ow! - 06Death to C - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:56] <exec> 08└─That's not a good thing. It means that while calling "unsafe" (that's a misnomer; the code could very well be perfectly safe, especially if it wasn't written by a Rust programmer) code there is much more that could go wrong. Complexity is what causes bugs. Simplicity is what helps eliminate them. Ad...
[23:48:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Suck my Rusty cock, now, brogrammer! - 06Death to C - 1071 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:02] <exec> 08└─Can somebody explain how the parent and the sibling comments are "Troll" comments? I don't think they are, based on my many years of using Ruby on Rails (not totally by choice; I prefer PHP). I've worked with a lot of people who are either self-described hipsters, or clearly fall within that communi...
[23:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Suck my Rusty cock, now, brogrammer! - 06Death to C - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:04] <exec> 08└─Maybe if a. you didn't post as AC and b. misuse the word hipster so much that the word has lost all meaning your credibility would be such that moderation if your posts would get more serious consideration.
[23:48:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:It's like driving - 06Death to C - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:06] <exec> 08└─It is even more generic: The overwhelming majority of people will think they are above average in mastering most of their activities.
[23:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Embedded - 06Death to C - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:11] <exec> 08└─If you can't write reliable C code, then Rust isn't going to help you. If you can't figure out C, then you won't be able to figure out Rust. You'll just end up writing a lot of Rust code that works around the protections (limitations, really) that Rust tries to provide. You'll end up using Rust's un...
[23:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Too much marketing - 06Death to C - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:16] <exec> 08└─So it's really fast, and totally safe*? *actually isn't Hmm, sounds like C, only minus the 40ish years C has been out so everybody could hammer on it and learn it well. #newisalwaysbettergeez
[23:48:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Then there are C strings - 06Death to C - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:24] <exec> 08└─Your string can't have any zeros in it. So you can't store an arbitrary binary blob like a JPEG picture in a C string.
[23:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Some work required. - 06Death to C - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:32] <exec> 08└─>in C, you have to be careful It's almost like you have to pay attention to what you're doing unlike in javascript. Crazy I know.
[23:48:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Death to SJWs - 06Death to C - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:48:34] <exec> 08└─Death to SJWs, feminists, etc. Marry girl children. C is good.
[23:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:It has SystemD. - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:45] <exec> 08└─Are you saying my Raspberry Pi has systemd? If so, is there an actual reason (besides your crusade) I should care?
[23:48:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Summary: Hertz == Hz - 06Next Thing Co's $9 computer - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:53] <exec> 08└─I was thinking of something a little more Calvin and Hobbes [nocookie.net].
[23:49:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Standby modes - 06Always-On Inactive Devices May Devour $19 Billion Worth of Electricity Annually - 680 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:33] <exec> 08└─Who cares about your opinion on this either. At least the person you are responding to doesn't pretend to know everything and raises relevant questions that need answering before drawing conclusions. What have you contributed. You haven't given us any sourced answers or data to go by, just the unsou...
[23:50:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:How dare they innovate? - 06Chinese Phone Maker ZTE Makes an Android Device With an Interactive Frame - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:50:08] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the explanation. I was a bit puzzled by that.
[23:50:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] 02Re:Equivalent to shipping a blueprint - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 769 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:50:22] <exec> 08└─The 1st amendment protects it, but that doesn't mean people won't try to suppress it. The entire thing is absurd, as schematics for actual weapons have been available forever [PDF] [weaponeer.net], and most firearms are simple enough to be reverse engineered provided. Attempting to ban the printer f...
[23:50:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Equivalent to shipping a blueprint - 063-D Printed Gun Lawsuit Starts War Between Arms Control and Free Speech - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:50:30] <exec> 08└─The reason the cards are stacked against them is that people who lose loved ones to gun violence often come to the conclusion that gun availability could have prevented it. I doesn't matter if they're right or wrong, what matters is that that group is growing and sooner or later you are going to ha...
[23:51:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'll gladly "fine tune" my car - 0625 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:51:34] <exec> 08└─There were no viable offerings to spend a few billions on electric cars at the cash-for-clunkers time.
[23:52:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:1) 02Re:Timing looks good for me anyway - 06Consumer Version of Oculus Rift Coming in Early 2016 - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:52:41] <exec> 08└─I own a DK2. It's great, its the full 3d VR experience we wanted in the 90's. But I'd wait for a 4k screen version. 1080 / 2 eyes? Its not good enough. 2k per eye would work.
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