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[00:23:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hartree [195] 02Only partly true: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 157 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:57] <exec> 08└─The US easily has the best freight network of any country. I know a lot of people who work hard to make it that way. The US passenger rail system is abysmal.
[00:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03SrLnclt [1473] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:00] <exec> 08└─Not by much... for those who haven't RTFA the password in question (taped to the monitor) is Password3.
[00:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:02] <exec> 08└─It depends on how many and how has access to look at that monitor and whether that system is tied to the internet. But I think we can all agree that sticky-note passwords AND simpleton passwords AND overzealous complexity rules are bad.
[00:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:06] <exec> 08└─In other words the old system was trivially remotely vulnerable. Not. True. In order to "hack" an easily guessable password, either the system must allow multiple login attempts without throwing up a red flag, or the hashed passwords have to be stolen. Password nazis make the assumption that insane...
[00:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:08] <exec> 08└─In order to "hack" an easily guessable password, either the system must allow multiple login attempts without throwing up a red flag
[00:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:10] <exec> 08└─There are a lot of security holes in password safes, and any thing in the clipboard on windows is pretty vulnerable to being plundered by any application. I'd recommend the dongles. (Actually little USB keys. These are so common you can buy them on Amazon and provision them yourself. Even Google use...
[00:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:12] <exec> 08└─Correction, there are a lot of security holes in SOME popular password safes. Others, not so bad. But on windows, the clipboard is weak.
[00:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:14] <exec> 08└─Downside: Well having an open USB port is a risk anywhere in a critical infrastructure.
[00:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:16] <exec> 08└─Years ago, I did an Aoraki Polytechnic (interest) course. They had an amusing password policy: I had to change my password every 30 days to protect something. Never did find out what. You see, I had no access to a network. We weren't hooked up to the internet (laughably, they told us that networks o...
[00:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Let me guess... - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:18] <exec> 08└─The password is 12345, isn't it?
[00:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tenex [575] (Score:1) 02Maybe not so bad--unless the list is stolen? - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:20] <exec> 08└─I really want to believe that 'Password3' suggests that the third password in a generated monthly/weekly/(daily?) password list is to be used at this station. Seriously, no one uses 'Password[n]' as a password. ==> dave
[00:24:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02This is not a new idea - 06Save The Internet By Rewiring It From The Name Up - 288 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:23] <exec> 08└─Now, hands up who wants to pay to a) cache the data b) allow access bandwidth to the data and c) verify the data to prevent corruption (unintentional) and forgery (intentional because people are evil and like to share malware in a non consensual manner). No takers? Oh, I didn't think so.
[00:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is not a new idea - 06Save The Internet By Rewiring It From The Name Up - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:25] <exec> 08└─> Now, hands up who wants to... Anyone who is running a bittorrent client today.
[00:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:where is it? - 06Save The Internet By Rewiring It From The Name Up - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:31] <exec> 08└─You can download the hashsum of the file from a credible source and use that to check the file's integrity. Then again that requires more work for your computer.
[00:24:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] 02Everything old is new again - 06Save The Internet By Rewiring It From The Name Up - 984 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:34] <exec> 08└─Wow, seeing "something like motherboard/stories/NDN/photo1" takes me back to IMS, the non-relational, hierarchical database that predates relational databases. You do not want to go back to that mess. It's hard to mentally process these paths through data. You also don't always want to take the same...
[00:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Low Key Religion - 06Why Scientists Love 'Lord of the Rings' - 1925 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:51] <exec> 08└─The difference I see between Tolkien and Lewis is that the former built a world that reflected his religion, and the latter built a world that existed only to advance the cause of his religion. If you had no idea what catholicism or christianity were, you'd learn nothing about it by reading Tolkien....
[00:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Munchies - 06Hungry Australians can Track their Pizzas’ Journey to their Doors - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:25:03] <exec> 08└─You can get Doritos as a pizza topping? I bet this pizza place is in Colorado.
[00:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Mobile Slashcode? - 06Potential SN Feature: Shameless OSS Plugs - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:25:51] <exec> 08└─We could do this technically now as a theme, and change the theme on UA detection. Someone would have to actually rework the HTML to make it happen. I looked at adventslash, and I remember there was a reason why we didn't host our own instance of it, but I can't remember it off the top of my head.
[00:28:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anyone surprised? - 06Grocery Chains Use Data Mining, Mobile Apps to Gobble Up Customers - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:28:24] <exec> 08└─>> In New England the cheapest supermarket, Market Basket, does not do a loyalty program nor even have a website. > > This. I was hoping those who'd prefer to shop at "save-n-pack" type places would chime in Market Basket is nothing like that. They are on the same level as the best of Albertsons, et...
[00:28:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anyone surprised? - 06Grocery Chains Use Data Mining, Mobile Apps to Gobble Up Customers - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:28:26] <exec> 08└─> How is this any worse from a local mom-n-pop shop that knows its customers, Because mom-and-pop stores don't out-source that to a company which resells to everybody, including facebook. [eff.org] This is the way it is with all databases. What was once a private interaction between the customer and...
[00:28:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So...don't use the loyalty card! - 06Grocery Chains Use Data Mining, Mobile Apps to Gobble Up Customers - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:28:40] <exec> 08└─> We do have a walmart. I won't shop there. I'll take a walmart over loyalty-card grocery every day. In fact I often do. Towns like that also tend to have farmers markets / roadside stands. Depending on the area of the country you might also have ALDI and Save-A-Lot. Target might be an option too, b...
[00:28:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't they already know? - 06Grocery Chains Use Data Mining, Mobile Apps to Gobble Up Customers - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:28:46] <exec> 08└─The top and the bottom of the market are free of them. I suspect it is for the same reason, but viewed through two different lenses. ALDI and Save-A-Lot dont not have loyalty cards because the poor, especially illegal immigrants, are distrustful of tracking. Wholefoods and Sprouts don't have loyalty...
[00:29:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:You fail. - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:29] <exec> 08└─I suppose we also need to consider the visibility of the respective events.
[00:29:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You fail. - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:31] <exec> 08└─> I suppose we also need to consider the visibility of the respective events Only someone who has actually met a large enough sample of sapient aliens can legitimately make that consideration.
[00:29:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:You fail. - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:33] <exec> 08└─Only someone who has actually met a large enough sample of sapient aliens can legitimately make that consideration.
[00:29:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You fail. - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:34] <exec> 08└─> So you are new to the idea of debate? I am old to the idea of someone posting random nonsensical bullshit and thinking themselves insightful for it. Stroke yourself somewhere else.
[00:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Son lives in Commerce, Texas - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:28] <exec> 08└─If you have ever wondered why countries tend to become more authoritarian: One reason is that people have trouble to distinguish between legal and OK, thinking that everything that s legal also is OK.
[00:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Son lives in Commerce, Texas - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:30] <exec> 08└─With the result that there's a drive to make everything that's not OK also illegal.
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[01:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02how is this new? - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:02] <exec> 08└─there are some excellent resources for reproducible research; particularly this book: https://www.crcpress.com [crcpress.com]
[01:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Is there any Au-197 involved in any way? - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:03] <exec> 08└─Liars. You're all liars. All of you liars.
[01:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02hhhhfffff - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:05] <exec> 08└─Reliable until they find the critical bug in those 20k lines of code :!
[01:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:24:17] <exec> 08└─That's the password on my luggage.
[01:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:24:25] <exec> 08└─But on windows, the clipboard is weak.
[01:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:24:27] <exec> 08└─There are a lot of security holes in password safes
[01:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe not so bad--unless the list is stolen? - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:24:31] <exec> 08└─I do, at work, because the password policies are silly and annoying. Actually mine is currently: Password2
[01:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe not so bad--unless the list is stolen? - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:24:32] <exec> 08└─It could be the third workstation. First row, far left is password1, next to it has password2, next to that is password3, etc. The publicly accessible computers at my municipal library are set up like that. Thankfully, they are somewhat protected from idiots as when your time expires or runs out, th...
[01:25:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Daemonic Dice Devours - 06Potential SN Feature: Shameless OSS Plugs - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:25:51] <exec> 08└─Da, dey Desecrate.
[01:26:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible idea - 06Potential SN Feature: Shameless OSS Plugs - 884 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:26:30] <exec> 08└─Even if that's true here -- and I'm not so sure it is -- why should that be reason to not do it? Is there some kind of "no Windows lusers allowed" requirement to have your software considered FOSS? It has nothing to do with Windows users or FOSS software running on Windows (or Macs), it has to do wi...
[01:26:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:/dev/duh - 06 Childhood bullying: Worse Long-Term Mental Health than Maltreatment by Adult - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:26:57] <exec> 08└─Also, when a child gets older they can move away from their parents. They can't avoid their peers or the anxiety of social situations that was imprinted in them.
[01:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Correlation does not equal causation - 06 Childhood bullying: Worse Long-Term Mental Health than Maltreatment by Adult - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:27:24] <exec> 08└─Maybe they get bullied because they have serious chronic problems
[01:28:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Please correct me if I have it wrong.... - 06What Happens to your Brain on the Way to Mars? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:28:23] <exec> 08└─orbited the Earth showing the same hemisphere to us always
[01:30:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:You fail. - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:05] <exec> 08└─I am old to the idea of someone posting random nonsensical bullshit and thinking themselves insightful for it.
[01:31:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Restating my case - 06Entire Broadband Industry Seeks Immediate Halt to Title II Classification - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:31:36] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure why you would bother writing to your representatives. How many millions have you contributed to his or her re-election campaign? These ISP's and cable companies spend millions making sure the right legislation is passed, and you're going to write a letter? Good luck with that. Of course...
[01:31:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:I might get hanged for saying this, here... - 06Roundup of Microsoft Build Developer Conference 2015 - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:31:56] <exec> 08└─You have been system'd by courtesy of Dead Rats and that Mickeysoft.
[01:31:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I might get hanged for saying this, here... - 06Roundup of Microsoft Build Developer Conference 2015 - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:32:00] <exec> 08└─Amazon is doing OK with their store. I think that Apple would have anti-trust issues denying such apps simply because they depend on microsoft's libaries. Equal opportunity blocking of apps based on function is one thing, but based on build libraries would be risky. Google might get away with it due...
[01:32:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Microsoft is the tar baby - stay clear - 06Roundup of Microsoft Build Developer Conference 2015 - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:07] <exec> 08└─Microsoft is the tar baby. You will loose whenever you get involved with them in any way.
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[02:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Title of study - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:19] <exec> 08└─Analysis of reproducibility and data sharing in scientific studies. (For all I know that's the title. I didn't see an obvious link to the actual paper and the press release published by phys.org and Eurekalert doesn't mention the topic of the work. I have a suspicion that the university press relati...
[02:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe not so bad--unless the list is stolen? - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:24:48] <exec> 08└─I don't think it really matters that the password is dumb. Did you see the username? In any case, I don't think we should come down hard on these people. From their point of view, if you're allowed to see that monitor, you're allowed to log in (and, since these are trains, it's probably important to...
[02:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:1) 02And for my next trick! - 06Save The Internet By Rewiring It From The Name Up - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:17] <exec> 08└─And for my next trick I'll reinvent the motherfuckin wheel.
[02:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03optotronic [4285] (Score:1) 02Australian-based? - 06Hungry Australians can Track their Pizzas’ Journey to their Doors - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:56] <exec> 08└─"Australian-based chain Dominos Pizza"?? For those who don't know better, Domino's Pizza is headquartered near Ann Arbor, MI.
[02:28:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:not a huge problem - 06What Happens to your Brain on the Way to Mars? - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:28:44] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Dig out some blocks from low gravity moon regolith and use a 4 meter thick layer to shield the spaceship. Water would be even better and is said to be present on the Moon too. The question becomes, is the expense of getting Moon stuff into orbit too high?
[02:29:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Re:Anyone surprised? - 06Grocery Chains Use Data Mining, Mobile Apps to Gobble Up Customers - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:29:10] <exec> 08└─Small stores that cater to low income don't stock the best quality.
[02:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Son lives in Commerce, Texas - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:31:09] <exec> 08└─...almost as though they were trying to bait someone into reacting. The organisers must take some of the responsibility for the events that have unfolded.
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[03:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02All Female candidates - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:54] <exec> 08└─Is Carly Fiorina willing to prove that she is a woman? Only women are allowed to compete for the Presidency this cycle.
[03:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The (currently independent)working class candidate - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:55] <exec> 08└─Bernie Sanders (aka America's Senator) announced his presidential candidacy Thursday. You will have to look long and hard to find someone better on workers' rights and anti-austerity. His weakness is that, after initial resistance to military aggression and domestic snooping, he tends to cave on sub...
[03:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The (currently independent)working class candid - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:57] <exec> 08└─He isn't a she. No man will win.
[03:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:58] <exec> 08└─30,000 fewer jobs at HP. (Extrapolate for 300M.) HP stock price halved after the Compaq acquisition. HP stock price went up sharply after she was canned. -- gewg_
[03:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:00] <exec> 08└─30,000 fewer jobs at HP. (Extrapolate for 300M.)
[03:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:03] <exec> 08└─All she has to do is to bully every man until he leaves the workforce completely. Everybody knows social women are never unemployed because they use their mastery of cronyism to hire friends and enemies. With an all-female workforce, America is sure to succeed. There will be a brief increase in crim...
[03:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Misogynist - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:04] <exec> 08└─Can you tell us, from your person experience, how it feels to have a penis that is smaller than everyone on the planet (including the half who have no penis at all)? -- gewg_
[03:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:07] <exec> 08└─HP stock price went up sharply after she was canned.
[03:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:09] <exec> 08└─We could secede before the election, or after if she actually wins something. The North Will Rise Again!
[03:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:10] <exec> 08└─But I don't know if it would've been worse if she hadn't been HP CEO. They might have lost 60,000 jobs or gone out of business altogether. -- gewg_
[03:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02She's running for VP - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:12] <exec> 08└─She knows the Republicans will be tempted to pick a female VP to help against Hillary, and she knows by making herself known now will add to her attractiveness for that role. You could make a similar case for Ben Carson being a black man, adding diversity to their side.
[03:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:3, Funny) 02Clearly what the American people are demanding: - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:13] <exec> 08└─A less-competent version of Mitt Romney.
[03:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02What's amusing about the GOP nomination race - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 665 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:16] <exec> 08└─As more candidates climb in, people start to think, gee, there's going to 15 or 20 candidates so I'll have a big advantage because I won't be competing head to head with all the others! In this race I'll be the only - woman (Carly Fiorina) - Hispanic (Marco Rubio) - African American (Ben Carson) - L...
[03:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Title of study - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 1382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:19] <exec> 08└─The bottom link eventually states that they were studying data center efficiency. All in all, I'm not impressed. All that data is probably non transferable to any other data center, any code written is probably spread sheets (and 20,000 lines isn't much anyway). So to me its not clear that any actua...
[03:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Data distribution.. - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:21] <exec> 08└─How have they solved the distribution of 200 GB of data?
[03:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data distribution.. - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:22] <exec> 08└─We have this thing called the Internet.
[03:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Data distribution.. - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:24] <exec> 08└─no, somebody else did: bittorrent.
[03:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:35] <exec> 08└─They changed it to Password4 after the show.
[03:24:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 53 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:39] <exec> 08└─We've replaced poor security with even worse security
[03:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:And there's a dinosaur called Dracorex Hogwarts - 06Why Scientists Love 'Lord of the Rings' - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:25:27] <exec> 08└─Yea their hobby shouldn't be their day job, but the point was why LOTR as oppose to say bushcrafting or knitting? What's so specific about LOTR?
[03:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Low Key Religion - 06Why Scientists Love 'Lord of the Rings' - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:25:32] <exec> 08└─I'm not religious, my parents never took me to a regular church service (have been to funerals and other special events in churches). I did grow up in an area that was primarily Christian/Catholic, with a few Jews in my schools too, but never paid a lot of attention to what my playmates did when the...
[03:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:2) 02Re:Australian-based? - 06Hungry Australians can Track their Pizzas’ Journey to their Doors - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:25:58] <exec> 08└─The Australian version franchises the name, but is a different entity. From Wikipedia: History: Silvio's Dial-A-Pizza The company started in Red Hill, Brisbane, Queensland Australia in 1978, as Silvio's Dial-A-Pizza, established by brothers Silvio and Fel Bevacqua. Silvio's Dial-A-Pizza began Austr...
[03:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Where to rob the delivery site.. - 06Hungry Australians can Track their Pizzas’ Journey to their Doors - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:26:00] <exec> 08└─This sounds like a service that will enable people to just rob the delivery transport for food or fiat money. Despite all the supposed goodies of transparency.
[03:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03boltronics [580] (Score:1) 02Not sure about the speeding - 06Hungry Australians can Track their Pizzas’ Journey to their Doors - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:26:02] <exec> 08└─I'm an Australian who regularly orders Domino Pizza online (or rather, my wife does the ordering). I haven't noticed the GPS tracking, but they do have a counter which has a very good ETA (but again, my wife usually takes care of it so I probably just didn't see it). However Dominos *always* have th...
[03:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible idea - 06Potential SN Feature: Shameless OSS Plugs - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:26:58] <exec> 08└─it has to do with MS shills and sycophants who spend all their time bashing FOSS (regardless of what platform it runs on). Why is this a problem? Simple: who wants to try to have a rational discussion in the presence of an overwhelming number of nasty, bashing messages? It becomes so tiresome that a...
[03:29:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't they already know? - 06Grocery Chains Use Data Mining, Mobile Apps to Gobble Up Customers - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:29:36] <exec> 08└─Yeah Sprouts is great, but they just don't have the selection of the larger stores and can't compete with Trader Joe's on price. They are, however, much better than Whole Foods.
[03:31:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03davester666 [155] 02Re:How about - 06Entire Broadband Industry Seeks Immediate Halt to Title II Classification - 607 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:31:41] <exec> 08└─You have it backwards. the "open" one is regulated by the FCC so they can't screw around as much, while the unregulated one is the one controlled by the ISPs. Of course, the unregulated one, in the short term at least, will be much much better, because they will have peering and fast lanes so it goe...
[03:32:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Half true - 06Patent Trolls Aren't The Problem - Broad, Vague Patents Are - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:32:48] <exec> 08└─IANAL, so it is a matter of opinion of course, but you can also google for it. Here's a few articles where other's have noted the need to revise laws for the digital age. For example if you google for "revising laws for the digital age" [cornell.edu] A book about it here [cap-press.com]. If you're A...
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[04:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:05] <exec> 08└─We could secede before the election, or after if she actually wins something.
[04:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:07] <exec> 08└─If Canada secedes, it's all over.
[04:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sign your own name to your comments, shithead - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:08] <exec> 08└─That is all. -- gewg_
[04:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sign your own name to your comments, shithead - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:11] <exec> 08└─Dude, if you aren't going to log in, you can't complain if another AC impersonates you. Well you can complain, but you will get nearly zero sympathy.
[04:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sign your own name to your comments, shithead - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:14] <exec> 08└─Actually, calling you shithead was pretty shitty of me. I apologize. -- gewg_
[04:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:16] <exec> 08└─> But I don't know if it would've been worse if she hadn't been HP CEO. They might have lost 60,000 jobs or gone out of business altogether. I was an HP employee long before she showed up and a sub to them managing technical stuff on-site with one of their larger customers during her reign. One thin...
[04:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:18] <exec> 08└─No allowance for the time period during which she was there gewg_? The tech bubble had just burst in 2000, it was clear Dell and HP and Compaq weren't all three going to survive. Everybody's stock went down. Everybody shed employees. I don't like everything she did at HP, (and neither did the Board)...
[04:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Acquisition during a bust cycle - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:21] <exec> 08└─...and acquiring a failed company was the correct move? Clearly not. -- gewg_
[04:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:She's running for VP - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:22] <exec> 08└─Or any random person wearing an "I'm Not Hillary: tee shirt, for that matter.
[04:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:She's running for VP - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:25] <exec> 08└─Fiorina seems to be "generic white person with so much money that they are surrounded by yes-men." She got trounced by Pelosi in an election year where upstart republicans swept the vote nationwide. So now she thinks she got a chance at an even bigger election where she is even less qualified. Maybe...
[04:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Clearly what the American people are demanding: - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:27] <exec> 08└─You Sir, win the flamethrower award for today. Well done.
[04:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:What's amusing about the GOP nomination race - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:29] <exec> 08└─Say what you will, its better than the practice of the past when the Party's (both of them) ran candidates who's "Turn" it was... Walter Mondale Bob Dole Al Gore Jon McCane and now Hillary
[04:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Flamebait) 02GOP "candidates" (mostly unannounced) - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:32] <exec> 08└─Mainstream "grown up" (Jeb Bush) Can you be specific? Something where he was a leader and not a follower? Is there any real accomplishment to his name? Something that 51 percent of the country agrees on would be good for a start. Businessman (Donald Trump) I would say "Trust fund baby". Throw in "Ar...
[04:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GOP "candidates" (mostly unannounced) - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:34] <exec> 08└─Your definition of mainstream is not the same as republican party mainstream. In particular "leader not a follower" does not fit the mold of knowing your place in the hierarchy and waiting your turn. McCain tried to sell himself as a rogue precisely because that is not how republicans normally run t...
[04:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02more domains? - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:36] <exec> 08└─Although carlyfiorina.org is a great catch, registering misspellings of "fiorina" could be amusing or even lucrative. carlyfiorna.com is available.
[04:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Data distribution.. - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:40] <exec> 08└─So, about 25 full lenght 1080P HD movies worth of useless data? Seriously, who the hell is going to re-seed that?
[04:25:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe not so bad--unless the list is stolen? - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:25:08] <exec> 08└─lol, yes. See, when YOU type Password2, it shows to us as *******
[04:29:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03http [1920] (Score:2) 02Straw man debunked - 06Grocery Chains Use Data Mining, Mobile Apps to Gobble Up Customers - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:29:29] <exec> 08└─No store needs to ID you to know their inventory.
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[05:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Quantum Insert Obama into Write-In Ballots - 06How to Detect ‘Quantum Insert’ Attacks - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:55] <exec> 08└─You don't know it now, but you will be reelecting The Obama. It makes no difference who you think you vote for. Every vote is a vote for Obama. Now go out and vote, stupid motherfuckers. Obama Forever!!
[05:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Female Leaders for Now and Forever! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:24:09] <exec> 08└─What's it like to be a outspoken supporter of your female oppressors? Do you get a massive erection every time you say "Yes, Ma'am, I want your success to benefit me, Ma'am!"
[05:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:24:14] <exec> 08└─You couldn't even find 50 Americans to agree to protest anything. Good luck finding 50 state governments.
[05:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sign your own name to your comments, shithead - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:24:21] <exec> 08└─Fuck me! I love to take it in the asshole! -- gewg_
[05:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:24:25] <exec> 08└─Do you know any long time HP employees who were there when she took over? She destroyed something beautiful. She stomped on a corporate butterfly. Why? Stupidity. The stupidity of a child who rips the legs off a newt to see what will happen. There are many great entrepreneurs and managers in this co...
[05:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:She's running for VP - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:24:29] <exec> 08└─Worked for Ron Reagan. Never overestimate the intelligence of the American public.
[05:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:She's running for VP - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:24:30] <exec> 08└─It's kind of like a shitty version of chess. "Oh snap! They moved their black dude... Should I move my Iraq war veteran or my woman???"
[05:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:What's amusing about the GOP nomination race - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:24:37] <exec> 08└─- woman (Carly Fiorina) - Hispanic (Marco Rubio) - African American (Ben Carson) - Libertarian, isolationist (Rand Paul) - Mainstream "grown up" (Jeb Bush) - Tea Party candidate (Ted Cruz) - Eastern power structure guy (Chris Christie) - Reagan conservative (Rick Perry) - Businessman (Donald Trump)...
[05:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Routing tables - 06Save The Internet By Rewiring It From The Name Up - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:25:53] <exec> 08└─His career peaked a quarter of a century ago. Since then he has mostly sat around talking about what he did or being given awards for what he did. If he has something new, which this is not, then he will have to prove how it is so much better that we should throw away the largest and most complex sy...
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[06:23:56] <exec> 08└─Wireshark is quite configurable... I wonder what kind of setup it would need to detect this kind of stuff?
[06:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:more domains? - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:24:40] <exec> 08└─For me that misspelling resolves as 184.168.221.14 Godaddy in Arizona.
[06:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:how is this new? Dunno... - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 986 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:24:50] <exec> 08└─I don't get it either. Back when I was active in research, I published my code and data online, for anyone to download. IIRC my entire research group at UT Austin did the same. Science is all about reproducible results; in computer science, reproducing results requires access to the underlying code...
[06:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:hhhhfffff - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:24:53] <exec> 08└─That is exactly what it means.
[06:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Not sure about the speeding - 06Hungry Australians can Track their Pizzas’ Journey to their Doors - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:43] <exec> 08└─always be a pizza pushed towards the end of the box as if the box was leaning on its side while quickly turning a sharp corner.
[06:26:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03middlemen [504] 02Re:Good idea - 06Potential SN Feature: Shameless OSS Plugs - 117 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:54] <exec> 08└─Freshmeat (aka Freecode) is no longer active https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]. Dice killed it !
[06:27:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02FLOSS Weekly - 06Potential SN Feature: Shameless OSS Plugs - 640 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:02] <exec> 08└─So basically Randal Schwartz's FLOSS Weekly podcast from the twit network, which I subscribe to, but done here on SN. OK its timely, topical, and usually pretty interesting, so our text clone would likely have the same characteristics, which is cool. You MIGHT have some fun reflecting off FLOSS week...
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[07:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:The (currently independent)working class candid - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:24:18] <exec> 08└─He isn't a she. No man will win.
[07:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:24:28] <exec> 08└─lol... Imagine if all the 50 states + other districts/territories secede in protest if she wins!
[07:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Coke verses Pepsi - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:42] <exec> 08└─Now if that sticky note containing a password had been a can of Coke... it would have been blurred out for sure!
[07:26:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Australian-based? - 06Hungry Australians can Track their Pizzas’ Journey to their Doors - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:26:53] <exec> 08└─For those who don't know better, Domino's Pizza is headquartered near Ann Arbor, MI.
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[08:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bait - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:56] <exec> 08└─It doesn't have an affinity for diamonds. It has an affinity for a type of rock, which is more likely to contain diamonds. Stop reversing causes just to make a better bait headline.
[08:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02The attackers don't download malware - 06How to Detect ‘Quantum Insert’ Attacks - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:06] <exec> 08└─Attackers *upload* malware. I would elaborate, but I have to come from the shops to sell some food using money I lent to the bank.
[08:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:2) 02Re:The (currently independent)working class candid - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:19] <exec> 08└─Sadly, I always imagine the sound of velcro when I read those immortal Shakespearean lines.
[08:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Sign your own name to your comments, shithead - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:35] <exec> 08└─You don't, you hypocrite. Appending an arbitrary string of characters at the end of your post which any other person could also append to their posts is not "signing" in any meaningful way, shape, of form. The weird thing is that you seem to be aware of this dichotomy, yet unwilling to solve it.
[08:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:40] <exec> 08└─I knew HP employees in the 2000s. They were dancing in the street after the announcement she'd been booted out. (At least in some German offices, the friends in Irish offices just went to the pub instead.)
[08:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:She's running for VP - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:47] <exec> 08└─She knows the Republicans will be tempted to pick a female VP to help against Hillary
[08:24:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] 02Clearly what the American people are demanding: - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:49] <exec> 08└─A less-competent version of Mitt Romney.
[08:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03WhiteSpade [301] (Score:1) 02Re:Data distribution.. - 06New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - 1019 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:13] <exec> 08└─I work in a neuroscience research lab, and we distribute our data (~400GB worth) using quite a few different methods [studyforrest.org], including git-annex [branchable.com]. Others in my lab are working to take git-annex one step further with datalad [github.com] (terrible name, I know) to make it...
[08:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:41] <exec> 08└─Bruce Schneier recommends writing down your password and putting it in your wallet. NOT on the monitor or under the keyboard, though. As he says, when you write down a password on a piece of paper, it becomes a valuable piece of paper. And we have hundreds of years of experience storing valuable pie...
[08:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Let me guess... - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:43] <exec> 08└─That's really a whole new level of RTFA...
[08:25:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe not so bad--unless the list is stolen? - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:49] <exec> 08└─It's probably a case of "can not reuse the last 3 passwords".
[08:26:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Everything old is new again - 06Save The Internet By Rewiring It From The Name Up - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:12] <exec> 08└─Didn't URLs start off like this anyway?
[08:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You fail. - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:31:09] <exec> 08└─So you could come arrest or kill me? No thanks shill. Hope you die before your time.
[08:32:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Son lives in Commerce, Texas - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:32:28] <exec> 08└─There's no such thing as absolute morality, or at least, no one has been able to scientifically demonstrate that such a thing exists.
[08:32:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Son lives in Commerce, Texas - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:32:29] <exec> 08└─So, if people have such a mindset, then they are being rather illogical.
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[09:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Correction - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:05] <exec> 08└─That may be good for the West African nations
[09:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Just Discovered ? - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:07] <exec> 08└─A geologist has discovered a thorny, palm-like plant in Liberia [it] rises to a height of 10 meters or more
[09:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Just Discovered ? - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:24:08] <exec> 08└─Incorrect placement of "that": A geologist has discovered a thorny, palm-like plant in Liberia that seems to grow only on top of kimberlite pipes
[09:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Quantum - 06How to Detect ‘Quantum Insert’ Attacks - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:20] <exec> 08└─I picture thing involving entangled photos or collapsing waves. This looks like a simple MITM attack. Why is it called "quantum"?
[09:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sign your own name to your comments, shithead - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:24:51] <exec> 08└─Also, my pants are very baggy. Very very baggy indeed. --gewg_
[09:24:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Signing someone else's name - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:24:53] <exec> 08└─It is a unique combination of characters. People here are aware of who uses that character string to identify himself. Common courtesy would preclude someone else from using that. ...then there are certain individuals who have no honor and will sign someone else's name. There are circumstances where...
[09:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:24:55] <exec> 08└─Moral, don't put in crappy management? ;-)
[09:25:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:What's amusing about the GOP nomination race - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:25:12] <exec> 08└─I have to say, LEGO are really scraping the bottom of the barrel with their series 14 minifig line-up.
[09:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:25:52] <exec> 08└─nitehawk214 wrote :- "It depends on how many and how has access to look at that monitor" It was looked at by a TV audience - just a few hundred thousand?
[09:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:02] <exec> 08└─Vux984 wrote :- The slip of paper taped under the keyboard really isn't that bad...... its probably better than it being "password123" and not written down.
[09:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:06] <exec> 08└─The fact that pickpockets can survive on their "profession" doesn't tell me that on average we are very good in securing those valuable pieces of paper. Indeed, I know of people who still think the back pocket of their trousers is a safe place to store the wallet.
[09:26:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe not so bad--unless the list is stolen? - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:13] <exec> 08└─I'm sure when he complained that the computers reboot "to fast", he didn't mean the actual boot time, but the time between restarts.
[09:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe not so bad--unless the list is stolen? - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:15] <exec> 08└─The fault lies with the idiot who let the cameras film, and did not go through the result frame by frame before giving their ok
[09:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Coke verses Pepsi - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:18] <exec> 08└─So you can increase password security by writing down your password on a can of Coke!
[09:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Low Key Religion - 06Why Scientists Love 'Lord of the Rings' - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:27:04] <exec> 08└─Examples?
[09:28:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Mobile Slashcode? - 06Potential SN Feature: Shameless OSS Plugs - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:28:16] <exec> 08└─I read soylentnews on my phone regularly without any problems. What's the actual problem that needs a solution? Before that's defined, attempting to solve it will be futile.
[09:28:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible idea - 06Potential SN Feature: Shameless OSS Plugs - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:28:25] <exec> 08└─On SN, you can moderate and comment on the same article. I agree with your comments about "disagree" though. The other down mod options are still very much being used as "disagree" currently anyway, which is a shame. I'm a big fan of "disagree" as it's honest. 3 disonest tossers without the wits to...
[09:29:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Correlation does not equal causation - 06 Childhood bullying: Worse Long-Term Mental Health than Maltreatment by Adult - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:29:15] <exec> 08└─Poor social skills is more likely to indicate a kid at the younger end of the age range for the grade. For example, the kid who's birthday is just before the cutoff age for the school year. You seem really motivated to blame mental illness. Feeling guilty about something?
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[10:24:33] <exec> 08└─Science has only just discovered a tree that grows to 10m high?
[10:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I love to shove diamonds up my ass - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:34] <exec> 08└─The women who find themselves following me around all day act so confused, unable to understand why their money sense is tingling.
[10:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02artificial scarcity - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:36] <exec> 08└─http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/02/AR2010070203990_pf.html [washingtonpost.com] http://www.theatlantic.com [theatlantic.com] See also: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipe...
[10:25:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's amusing about the GOP nomination race - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:25:39] <exec> 08└─You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
[10:29:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03t-3 [4907] 02Re:/dev/duh - 06 Childhood bullying: Worse Long-Term Mental Health than Maltreatment by Adult - 366 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:29:22] <exec> 08└─Um, yes, some of them do. My dad used to hand out whoopings for no reason, or throw me around by the neck just for being in the same room as him. I've seen many parents do similar, and I've also seen many parents responsibly discipline their children. I've also seen the "no-spanking" crowd and their...
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[10:35:01] <exec> 08└─That's not really what is being suggested. Instead, a drug may show an effect in aggregate but in fact turn out to help (for example) half of the treatment group and do nothing for the other half. There is a real need to follow the effects on the individual to better identify the subset that was gre...
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[22:59:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Interesting) 02The incident took place, so wrong cure? - 06NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:12] <exec> 08└─The incident actually happened. So how would more "powers" help anything? Police stationed at the location prevented escalation, not sneaky listening.
[22:59:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2, Funny) 02Probably worthless - 06NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:13] <exec> 08└─If their word recognition is on a level with the stuff used for the subtitles on TV News, I think our privacy is quite safe!
[22:59:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Probably worthless - 06NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:15] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of Barry trying to get Siri to work [youtube.com] with his speech impediment. However, I have to say, Google's speech recognition is almost perfect for my midwestern english. I've seen google voice mail transcriptions of voice mails i've left on my wife's phone and they are nearly perfect...
[22:59:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fauxlosopher [4804] (Score:2, Insightful) 02If authoritarians "split the baby", it dies - 06NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:17] <exec> 08└─Authoritarians claim they want to "split the baby [wikipedia.org]" of freedom and privacy's entwined nature. If you have no privacy, you are not free. Eliminating privacy without due process is eliminating freedom. One of the weaknesses of a free society is increased vulnerability to people who are...
[22:59:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02People have short memory - 06NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:18] <exec> 08└─computer programs designed to analyze and "extract" the content of voice conversations, and even use sophisticated algorithms to flag conversations of interest
[22:59:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Ten years ago - 06NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - 1397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:20] <exec> 08└─Story pretty much restates what most have suspected all along. The NSA claims (falsely it turns out) that all they get is pen register data from phone calls. In actual fact they can full take almost any phone call they want in real time. Not the same as taking ALL calls in real time. Land line phone...
[22:59:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:3, Informative) 02Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:27] <exec> 08└─The first step is admitting you have a problem. At least they're honest about the hopelessness and futility of their situation. It would be worse if they continued to reassure people they would be able to run a clean and proper election despite having given up hope. I changed my voter registration b...
[22:59:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:28] <exec> 08└─Who is "they"? This is on of 6 (albeit the leader) in a stalemate and there will be a reason she has come out "on the side of good". Most likely she will be sidelined and fired in the near future. If she is telling you something you don't already know then you have been asleep at the wheel. At best...
[22:59:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:30] <exec> 08└─So Koch Brothers bad but Soros brothers good? I see where you're coming from. Shoe doesn't feel so good when its on the other foot, does it....
[22:59:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:31] <exec> 08└─You haven't caught me out, mate. I don't want any of their money in politics. I don't care what "side" they're on, although I don't hide the fact that I think the extreme Right is more pernicious to society currently because they enjoy a natural economic advantage and are incumbent.
[22:59:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:33] <exec> 08└─So Koch Brothers bad but Soros brothers good?
[22:59:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:35] <exec> 08└─http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Soros [wikipedia.org] His rich older brother Paul died in 2013. He too, was something of a Philanthropist, although is public acts of philanthropy amounted to providing graduate scholarships. How he spent his private money was a secret guarded almost as closely as G...
[22:59:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:36] <exec> 08└─Well if he is dead then I don't think we need to worry about him contributing too much money now do we.
[22:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:38] <exec> 08└─Didn't read the link did you. His son is managing the foundation and the family fortune these days.
[22:59:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Interesting differences - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:39] <exec> 08└─In the first 24 hours after Bernie's announcement, donations to his campaign topped $1.5M. The average donation was $43.54. Unlike the 4 Koch brothers (trust fund babies) who inherited millions, the working class wealth of the (ethnically Jewish) Soros family was destroyed by the Nazi occupation of...
[22:59:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:41] <exec> 08└─Don't put words into other people's mouths.
[22:59:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 1034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:43] <exec> 08└─Sorry friend but talking to women at the shop? You better get used to saying "President Hillary" as its gonna be for the women what it was for blacks and Obama. You won't believe how many women I've talked to that when I ask "So what is it about her policies that you support?" that all you get is bl...
[22:59:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:44] <exec> 08└─"We need one vote per man, not one vote per dollar." Actually at that 10 Billion spending rate, it would be over $850.00 per vote. Of course none of that goes into the pocket of the average voter. It's the PACs, the Madison Ave folks, the media, and the politicians that are lugging bags to the banks...
[22:59:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:46] <exec> 08└─If the Koch brothers want to influence another election they can go door-to-door like the rest of us.
[22:59:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fire Them All - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:47] <exec> 08└─Fire each and every one of them. It is beyond shameful that they would accept that the laws governing the foundation of democracy - fair elections - cannot and will not be inforced.
[22:59:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:Fire Them All - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:49] <exec> 08└─The commission is required to have an even number of seats. It is held by 3 Republicans, and 3 Democrats. Every vote is a tie. Nothing gets done. Dian Rehm show ust did a show on it: http://thedianerehmshow.org
[22:59:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fire Them All - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:51] <exec> 08└─How about 2 Republicans, 2 Democrats, and 2 Independents, Libertarians, Pastafarians, etc? As long as there is an even number of seats, the Rs & Ds have the same number of seats, and no other party has more seats than the Ds or Rs, they should all be equally unhappy. And isn't everyone being unhappy...
[22:59:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fire Them All - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:52] <exec> 08└─Pastafarian is a religion, not a political group. I'm not against pastarians serving, just wanted to make that distinction.
[22:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Fire Them All - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:54] <exec> 08└─Putting the parties in a position of power over the activities of the parties seems ridiculous. But realistically, who else could there possibly be to do that job such that there wouldn't be the same problems. The Judiciary? They're not exactly non-political, but they are pretty much untouchable onc...
[22:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Fire Them All - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:56] <exec> 08└─A jury trial, obviously. Make every decision a court case and let the chips fall.
[22:59:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:Fire Them All - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:57] <exec> 08└─And will the jury be made up of 6 democrats and 6 republicans?
[22:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02failure modes - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 1211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:59] <exec> 08└─It would be interesting to list the failure modes, if failure is certain. Just channeling my inner engineer. I can only think of 2: 1) For stuff that doesn't matter and constituencies that don't deserve representation, they might be dumb enough to vote for who ever spends the most money. This will m...
[23:00:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Its already built into the game - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:00] <exec> 08└─What many people do not realize politics *IS* money. It is the lifeblood of politics. Every action in the gov can be traced back to taking money from someone and giving it to someone else because they convinced someone to do it. This is from the simple 'I need a pencil' 'here is a box we bought at s...
[23:00:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TestablePredictions [3249] (Score:1) 02Obviate the effect of money - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:02] <exec> 08└─If we can't change the flow of money in a positive way, can we change the *effect* of money? Why do candidates with more money do better? Because they can pay more workers to arrange travel and speeches and advertisements? Couldn't a teaming mass of independents, greens, libertarians, etc all volunt...
[23:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Rejecting the premise - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 1329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:04] <exec> 08└─Can I reject the entire premise? There is only one 'election law' we need: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to peti...
[23:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Insightful) 02"Just doing my job" is the problem, not solution - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:05] <exec> 08└─we would all be better off were we to take responsibility for solving problems, rather than complying with our job descriptions.
[23:00:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:"Just doing my job" is the problem, not solutio - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:07] <exec> 08└─You're fired.
[23:00:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02In fact, I often am. $ - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:08] <exec> 08└─Filter error: Comment too short
[23:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:"Just doing my job" is the problem, not solutio - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:10] <exec> 08└─Strangely, in that program, it's the ones who solve problems rather than "do their job" that don't get fired.
[23:00:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:"Just doing my job" is the problem, not solutio - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:12] <exec> 08└─There was a trial about that after the 2nd world war....
[23:00:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:"Just doing my job" is the problem, not solutio - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:13] <exec> 08└─Yes, and while I totally agree with the sentiment, it is important to understand that that rule only applies to the vanquished, not to those in power. I dare you to put a sticker on your car saying "I blame the troops who fought in Iraq as much as the assholes who started the useless war." You're go...
[23:00:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:"Just doing my job" is the problem, not solutio - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:15] <exec> 08└─I blame the troops who fought in Iraq as much as the assholes who started the useless war It wasn't useless. [businesspundit.com]
[23:00:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:"Just doing my job" is the problem, not solutio - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:16] <exec> 08└─"Just doing my job" is the problem, not solution. we would all be better off were we to take responsibility for solving problems... Why is everyone assuming that giving this particular front-line-call-center employee access to your personal medical information would be a good thing? This i...
[23:00:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Confuseopoly - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:18] <exec> 08└─Standard confusopoly market operation. Hardly limited to cell phone networks or insurance.
[23:00:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Confuseopoly - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:20] <exec> 08└─One important non-standard aspect of the health care industry: The customer is frequently getting an offer they can't refuse. If you need, for example, an appendectomy, you will lack the time and ability to shop around for the best price and quality of care. That's why I think the US obsession with...
[23:00:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:Confuseopoly - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:21] <exec> 08└─I don't see how your objection addresses the problem you mention. That there are differences in skills, capabilities, and outcomes among health care providers is beyond question. Emergency medicine is one thing, but most procedures and doctor visits are not really in that category. And in those case...
[23:00:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03naubol [1918] (Score:2) 02Re:Confuseopoly - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:23] <exec> 08└─The lack of transparency around billing makes it worse. Also, yelp is clearly having a market effect.
[23:00:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Confuseopoly - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:24] <exec> 08└─If you need, for example, an appendectomy, you will lack the time and ability to shop around for the best price and quality of care.
[23:00:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:26] <exec> 08└─“The software industry has pretty much decided what information patients should receive, and to my knowledge, they have not had any stakeholder input. That would certainly be a worthwhile project for our industry.”
[23:00:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02"audit by Equifax" - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:27] <exec> 08└─Like I'm gonna believe an audit by a company that routinely effs up my credit report?
[23:00:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:"audit by Equifax" - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:29] <exec> 08└─Well if the problems are so egregious that even they can find them just think how bad it is.
[23:00:30] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 1986 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:31] <exec> 08└─As someone who suffers from chronic heart disease I've been hospitalized too many times to count. As a physician, I always insist in reading my hospital bills line by line before paying. It is common (as in, almost every single time I've had a bill) to be billed for - things that weren't actually us...
[23:00:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:32] <exec> 08└─Sorry about your illness. I have had similar billing issues but not with false line items. They charge 5$ for every set of gloves used! One-time a nurse offered a pain-pill while i waited for surgery (for a new metal plate). That pill was itemized at 120$. A fitted wrist wrap was 90$ with 130$ adjus...
[23:00:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:34] <exec> 08└─Yeah I know. Sometimes it's justified - like when an item forms part of a kit and they have to open the whole kit and discard/re-sterilize what they don't use even if only a small part of the kit is used. But the $200 aspirin is a no no and should be brought up before the appropriate consumer protec...
[23:00:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:35] <exec> 08└─130$ to adjust some velcro!
[23:00:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:37] <exec> 08└─Only better job would be professional bubble wrap popper. I would kick ass at that.
[23:00:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:39] <exec> 08└─Not sure he did catch the rip off in time to stop it though. Most people have insurance, and insurance just pays it. People make a big deal about these seemingly high charges. But if they had to pay the cost of the employee, (Nurse, or office-flunky as the case may be) for the time it took to deal w...
[23:00:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:40] <exec> 08└─there's still yachts to pay for, its just that now they're owned by the middlemen who do nothing but jack up prices to suck more and more money out of the system.
[23:00:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:42] <exec> 08└─Now before you start jumping down a hospital's throat - often these errors happen because of lack of staff training, staff laziness,etc and not actual malice.
[23:00:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 1043 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:43] <exec> 08└─It goes further back than that. This sort of error happens all the time because it is BUILT IN. I used to write software that did this. Ask your doctor about standard procedures. Basically you come in for X. The computer then decides you need Y and Z (because standard...). Even though you may never...
[23:00:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 2181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:45] <exec> 08└─And as a physician I'd expect you have the resources to hire a good lawyer when you're threatened with being sent to a collection agency, and also the ability to comprehend the language of the patient notes. Most people don't, for either of the above. And so what do you advise the minimum-wageish ea...
[23:00:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:47] <exec> 08└─> 87491 Chylmd trach dna amp probe A little penicillin will clear that up.
[23:00:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:48] <exec> 08└─azithromycin for chlamydia, actually :)
[23:00:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 1041 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:50] <exec> 08└─I'd googled the codes too. This isn't indecipherable, but it's inconvenient, which means it's a user interface problem, and I think that's what the author of the article is getting at. Really, how hard would it be for medical billers to pull a brief, simple English description of each CPT code from...
[23:00:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:51] <exec> 08└─Withholding payment until you get an explanation sound like good advice and its what I'd do, but I can easily imagine a situation where someone is disputing a bill, then has to go back into the same hospital for further treatment, and then the hospital decides to withhold treatment until the bill is...
[23:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03mathdan [3124] (Score:1) 02Re:It's quite common - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:53] <exec> 08└─My wife is always checking our bills, and she catches many overbilling errors. When our second child was born, she caught several outright mistakes along with a few hundred dollars worth of billing that we weren't sure should be there. Almost a year later, after just trying to get the items *confirm...
[23:00:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Right to one's own data - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:55] <exec> 08└─she said she could not tell me what the codes were for because that would violate patient privacy. After I pointed out that I was the patient in question, she said, politely: “I’m sorry, this is what I’m told, and I don’t want to lose my job.”
[23:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Right to one's own data - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:56] <exec> 08└─Possible counter point, subject to discussion: It can be difficult to verify that the seemingly random person on the phone is actually the person they say they are. We don't know the context of the story and anyone can say the words to get the effect of "After I pointed out that I was the patient...
[23:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to one's own data - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:58] <exec> 08└─> It can be difficult to verify that the seemingly random person on the phone is actually the person they say they are. Unless the code definitions are classified secrets, only available to people with security clearances, that does not matter. The person on the phone tells you the code number and y...
[23:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Right to one's own data - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 1427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:00] <exec> 08└─If only there was a law [hhs.gov] that said the provider must give you the data and how they must verify identity. Obviously giving info over the phone to whomever calls is wrong and illegal. Simply denying to explain because "its too hard to figure out" is also wrong and illegal. Though, I can unde...
[23:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to one's own data - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:01] <exec> 08└─Uh, no. CPT codes are indeed proprietarily licensed to the AMA. However, they are NOT secret and you do NOT need to pay a fee personally to translate a code. Aside from using Google "i.e. Google 99212 and you get that it is a Level 3 office or outpatient visit, just by reading the search results," y...
[23:01:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Right to one's own data - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:03] <exec> 08└─So, the answer is: "If this is what they tell you to say, please put me on the line with your supervisor who is telling you to say this." Take names, and push it up the chain until you reach someone who feels they have sufficient authority to make things right.
[23:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03AlphaMan [5223] (Score:1) 02More statistics? - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:04] <exec> 08└─The abstract states that there is an average $1,300 error in a $10,000 bill but it would be illuminating to see the distribution of these errors: are they random or not? Years ago, I worked at a proprietary trading firm that carefully scrutinized its broker-dealer invoices. Interestingly, the errors...
[23:01:05] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03No Respect [991] 02What's the problem? - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 92 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:06] <exec> 08└─The problem is that the health care system was designed to provide profits, not health care.
[23:01:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:What's the problem? - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:08] <exec> 08└─The above is the only explanation you need. Confusing billing IS part of the system designed to increase prices. More importantly to make it impossible to compare one organisation to another in terms of value for money. In my countries the CEO of the (recently) ex-monopoly Teleco admitted as much (a...
[23:01:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02Other places are the same... - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:09] <exec> 08└─Try school fees... The smallest item on mine are the actual credits for courses. Then a bunch of other stuff appears that nobody can explain. The other day i tried to figure our what i would be billed for when taking courses for a few classes outside of my program. Nobody in the registrar's office,...
[23:01:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02On surgery - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:11] <exec> 08└─A good read on this topic, "The Cost of Cutting: A Surgeon Reveals the Truth Behind a Multibillion-Dollar Industry" by Paul A. Ruggieri M.D.
[23:01:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Medical Bill? - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:12] <exec> 08└─Yes, receiving a bill for medical services is a mystery. Or are you talking about the cost of parking, or getting some food from the canteen when you're visiting someone?
[23:01:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Relocate to Pinko-Commie Europe - 06The Medical Bill Mystery - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:14] <exec> 08└─Seriously, why not relocate to Europe where we have much better and fairer public health systems? The only problem is, here in Blighty at the moment, it looks like were about to elect two bunches of evil [theguardian.com] cretins [independent.co.uk] who want the NHS to be effectively privatised [ind...
[23:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:4, Interesting) 02No shit, Sherlock! - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:16] <exec> 08└─No one needed to do any research to let me know about this feature. As a continual survivor of chronic depression and anxiety I can say from first-hand experience it has made my thinking very, very funny. When I get out of it I look back upon the decisions I made during a period of the blues, I am a...
[23:01:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:3, Redundant) 02Re:No shit, Sherlock! - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:17] <exec> 08└─No one needed to do any research to let me know about this feature.
[23:01:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:No shit, Sherlock! - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:19] <exec> 08└─Anyone with qualifications to review the study already has access to it, provided by their organization or a personal membership, or willingness to pay $39. That you don't have access, suggests to me you aren't in this field, don't have the qualifications to review it, and would be mostly chirping f...
[23:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:No shit, Sherlock! - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:20] <exec> 08└─You are seriously going to defend paywalling science and hiding data? Anyone with qualifications to review the study already has access to it, provided by their organization or a personal membership, or willingness to pay $39.
[23:01:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:No shit, Sherlock! - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:22] <exec> 08└─You know, it's this kind of in-depth scientific analysis that keeps me coming back to this site! First post: personal anecdote from a self-confessed crazy person. Second Post: It's fake because of a paywall. Clearly, no more science is necessary w/r/t the human brain. Soylent has it sussed...
[23:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:No shit, Sherlock! - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:24] <exec> 08└─How were you able to get yourself out of it?
[23:01:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:No shit, Sherlock! - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:25] <exec> 08└─Well, I'm coming to understand the value of tranquilizers, something which I've started taking recently to help get me out of bouts of anxiety. But there are some other tricks I can use. Using positive thinking, writing down or saying to myself affirmations also help. But when my mood swings downwar...
[23:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No shit, Sherlock! - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:27] <exec> 08└─Mine does the opposite. My thinking gets clearer, faster, and disturbingly more focused. When I am depressed I have no problem at all staring at a blank wall contemplating a problem nonstop for 15-20 hours. So yeah, this research has should be done and has barely scratched the surface. My symptoms a...
[23:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No shit, Sherlock! - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:28] <exec> 08└─Likewise for me. I also find that my habits also make turns for the better when I'm going through a period of depression. I stop biting my nails, start working out, try out new hobbies, etc. From outside I imagine it looks like I am getting my life together, as opposed to hanging on by a thread. I'm...
[23:01:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No shit, Sherlock! - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:30] <exec> 08└─Yeah I don't know why. Random shot in the dark: some research on bloodflow in the brain indicates that people with a disposition to depression have higher blood concentrations in the prefrontal cortex. It is taken as an explanation as to why when people are put under cognitive stress, i.e. college e...
[23:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Neurogenesis, I want it. - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:32] <exec> 08└─Gabapentin Enhances Neurogenesis in E14 Rat Embryonic Neocortex Stem Cells. [nih.gov] So I hope it does the same for me, beyond the mood stabilizing effect.
[23:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:4, Interesting) 02The effect comes and goes - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:33] <exec> 08└─I have Bipolar-Type Schizoaffective Disorder [warplife.com]. It is somewhat like being schizophrenic and manic depressive at the same time. Much of the time I do just fine, other times I am completely out to lunch. First term of junior year Quantum Mechanics at UC Santa Cruz, I got the second highes...
[23:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The effect comes and goes - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:35] <exec> 08└─I'd like to go back to graduate school someday but my erratic grades are going to be a challenge to explain.
[23:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The effect comes and goes - 06'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:36] <exec> 08└─I've been able to go back to school after being diagnosed with bipolar type I. I told the re-admission counselor "I have bipolar disorder, and that caused me to drop fail out." That was all I needed to say. Did I then ramble on for another twenty minutes? Yes. Did I then fail out again (and again an...
[23:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03yarp [2665] (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:Perfect breeding ground for rumor creation - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:38] <exec> 08└─Easy! Click on the banner that promises a way to avoid falling off the earth with this one weird old tip.
[23:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Perfect breeding ground for rumor creation - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:40] <exec> 08└─Wings included? better not be of wax then in case the sun falls down..
[23:01:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 238 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:41] <exec> 08└─It pretends to help poor vulnerable people to only get more ignorant subjects to prey on. And teaches people that internet=Facebook and that net neutrality is something strange and unnecessary. With "friends" like this, who needs enemies?
[23:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:43] <exec> 08└─It is never a matter of altruism for the greedy Jew Zuckerburg. This big push to teach kids computer science is merely a matter of diluting the labor pool so he can pay less for more. His little immigration propaganda project serves the same purpose. In personal life he is cheap and does not tip [te...
[23:01:44] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 606 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:44] <exec> 08└─Trolls take note, this is how to do it, and this is how Ethanol-Fuelled gets away with it. A potentially on-topic, informative and insightful post [1], deliberately vandalised by its creator with a generous smearing of racist flamebait shit [2]. I think this post has been specifically crafted to giv...
[23:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:46] <exec> 08└─There is only one solution to the problem -- The Final Solution.
[23:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:48] <exec> 08└─Trolls take note, this is how to do it, and this is how Ethanol-Fuelled gets away with it. If reverse racismn exists then Ethanol-Fueled is a reverse Minstrel Show! [wikipedia.org]
[23:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:49] <exec> 08└─And a final point. Eth posts with his account. No AC bullshit there. He wants you to know it's him and he don't give a fuck about his imaginary karma. (When he got banned from The Green Site, he still signed his posts.) Master Troll, that's our Ethanol Fueled! APK should take some lessons from him....
[23:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fauxlosopher [4804] (Score:1) 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:51] <exec> 08└─I think this post has been specifically crafted to give moderators an aneurysm.
[23:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03gallondr00nk [392] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:52] <exec> 08└─I'd agree that it sure as hell isn't the humanitarian gesture people are making it out to be. If the point is to connect people to the internet, then why have such a small whitelist of sites? It strikes me as a barely disguised way of sustaining input to the data mining leviathan - more names, DOBs,...
[23:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:54] <exec> 08└─except that the well in this case IS PEOPLE.
[23:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:56] <exec> 08└─That's deliciously cynical.
[23:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:57] <exec> 08└─they'll drop the "free" internet like a hot potato.
[23:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:How very despicable of Facebook - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:59] <exec> 08└─It pretends to help poor vulnerable people to only get more ignorant subjects to prey on. And teaches people that internet=Facebook... And that is my major problem with it. It is not the internet! If they want to provide this service, that is fine. If they want to call it the "Internet," that is...
[23:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A platform for writing apps for the platform! - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:00] <exec> 08└─Wow... why didn't anybody else think of that before Zuck came along.
[23:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Free stuff OMG - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:02] <exec> 08└─"The Internet.org Platform aims to give people valuable free services" As if most things on the Internet aren't already free. Only on this site, it will be free like the bait on a fishhook. Some organizations are just plain evil, in the sense that it really is only about the money. Facebook is one o...
[23:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Free stuff OMG - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:04] <exec> 08└─Exactly! There ain't no such thing as a free lunch [wikipedia.org]!!
[23:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Free stuff OMG - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:05] <exec> 08└─This is AOL, but paid for in personal information. My complaint isn't that you pay for it with information, it's that it's AOL.
[23:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Free stuff OMG - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:07] <exec> 08└─There are already people who think Facebook = Internet.
[23:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Blank Purple Page - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:08] <exec> 08└─I went to internet.org, but just got a blank purple page. It creepily reminded me of Barney and that's Not Barney Fife. Ad-Block Plus is blocking these specific items: https://ad.atdmt.com [atdmt.com] https://djgefctqm8nri.cloudfront.net
[23:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Blank Purple Page - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:10] <exec> 08└─What did you expect, it's Zuckerberg's baby ;)
[23:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:1) 02I want Zuckerberg to go away - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:12] <exec> 08└─Just because he was incredibly fortunate to start up a lowest-common-denominator AOL-on-steroids website and made billions doesn't make him the Boss of everyone else when it comes to the internet. Or education.
[23:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Another entry for my hosts file - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:13] <exec> 08└─127.0.0.1 internet.org APK would be proud!
[23:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another entry for my hosts file - 06Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:15] <exec> 08└─I did the same a few seconds ago. Does anybody have a complete list (or can link to a good list) of domains owned by facebook? I just cannot find a good list of servers belonging to facebook.
[23:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I heard - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:16] <exec> 08└─I hear they actually eat Soylent Green made out of old programmers. That's one of the reasons that Python 2 won't die.
[23:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The whishful thinking that it's all a myth - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:18] <exec> 08└─If they don't get it, you're not explaining it well enough. The responsibility to transfer knowledge always rests with the person who has the knowledge and not with the person who needs to learn it. Somewhere in the universe is the knowledge of immortality for humans, but since we haven't discovered...
[23:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:The whishful thinking that it's all a myth - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:20] <exec> 08└─The responsibility to transfer knowledge always rests with the person who has the knowledge and not with the person who needs to learn it.
[23:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:The whishful thinking that it's all a myth - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:21] <exec> 08└─There are limits. I used to teach Mastercam on a regular basis. There was approximately a bell curve distribution of aptitude. Some would take a week to pick up what others could in a couple hours.
[23:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The whishful thinking that it's all a myth - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:23] <exec> 08└─The responsibility to transfer knowledge always rests with the person who has the knowledge and not with the person who needs to learn it.
[23:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:The whishful thinking that it's all a myth - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:24] <exec> 08└─I think you're spot on, but there might be more as well. We've all heard this sort of argument before I guess and this time around I got to thinking about a few things: 1. Two entirely different things are being conflated: (programming) excellence and “acceptable personality”. 2. The people who...
[23:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Jake Edge is an idiot. - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:26] <exec> 08└─You're clearly the awesomest at everything
[23:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Jake Edge is an idiot. - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:28] <exec> 08└─Learning to program is not different to learning any other skillset - you don't just have to put in the time, you have to have the mindset and thought processes to back it up. I could become a good programmer if I put the time in and got a little advice along the way. I could become a mediocre car m...
[23:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:Jake Edge is an idiot. - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:29] <exec> 08└─The thing is, the idiot Edge in TFA asserts that programming "isn't a passion or a talent," which ignores the whole idea of innate talent. We all face certain reality checks on our dreams in life. No amount of study and advice can make anyone without certain basic traits a safe hang-glider pilot, mu...
[23:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Jake Edge is an idiot. - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:31] <exec> 08└─To complete the quote: The truth is that programming isn't a passion or a talent, it is just a bunch of skills that can be learned.
[23:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Jake Edge is an idiot. - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:32] <exec> 08└─The truth is that programming isn't a passion or a talent, it is just a bunch of skills that can be learned
[23:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Wins above replacement - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 1655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:34] <exec> 08└─Many have jumped all over him because of this. Because they perceive themselves as 'rock stars'. It is a nice sentiment to have. It is like asking people are they 'good drivers'. Almost all say they are above average. It is a form of Dunning-Kruger. there's no way to really quantify what a programme...
[23:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wins above replacement - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:36] <exec> 08└─It is like asking people are they 'good drivers'. Almost all say they are above average. It is a form of Dunning-Kruger.
[23:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wins above replacement - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 1388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:37] <exec> 08└─And yet there are some who will be above average Of course there are. There are also bellow average. But most people will be average but highly over rank themselves. Programming is not magically different in this regard. Are the 'good' programmers better? Absolutely yes. Are the crappy ones really b...
[23:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Wins above replacement - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:39] <exec> 08└─And yet there are some who will be above average, even if not everyone who says so is correct. A bell curve also ensures that some will be above average.
[23:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Threshold effect - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 1154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:40] <exec> 08└─Salesforce.com has a "feature" where if you choose to edit a record, and somebody else is editing that record, it gives you NO WARNING that all the changes you are making to that huge record will be rejected and discarded because somebody else decided to edit that record before you did. All without...
[23:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Threshold effect - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:42] <exec> 08└─That's because this kind of development (closed-source proprietary software) is feature-driven and run by managers. What you're talking about isn't something that customers ever complain about (remember, the customers are managers who buy the software, not peon employees who actually use it), so Sal...
[23:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Threshold effect - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:43] <exec> 08└─Record locking or something similar doesn't seem difficult and it's probably on a very long todo list. At the top of the list are new features that companies on the fence want. At the bottom of the list are non-critical bugs and "nice to have" features that greatly improve the product but don't actu...
[23:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Threshold effect - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:45] <exec> 08└─Record locking or something similar doesn't seem difficult and it's probably on a very long todo list
[23:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Threshold effect - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:47] <exec> 08└─The other 90% may still be able to find a role in software, if they want. Testers, QA people and technical writers are all essential
[23:02:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:So many logical fallacies - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 831 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:48] <exec> 08└─The all programmers are assholes concept, is the original sin doctrine applied to propaganda. http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] All of you are sinners. I'm superior to you because I forgive you and I guide you thru explaining why you're all sinners. If you agree with my polit...
[23:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:So many logical fallacies - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:50] <exec> 08└─I have rarely seen so many false dilemmas and other logical fallacies in one piece of text.
[23:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:definition of tech - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:51] <exec> 08└─worthless soft skills I used to think about soft skills the same way. However, I use them all the time now. Its less drama and not using them gets in the way of my programming. Is it manipulative? Oh yeah. But I dont need drama and another meeting to 'discuses my attitude'. I need this done yesterda...
[23:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:definition of tech - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 1086 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:53] <exec> 08└─If you had those soft skills you might realize adults tune you out at "SJW", using that term immediately makes you look like a petulant child. It makes it appear that you're unable to stick to the topic and use any chance you can to bring your pet annoyance into a conversation. It's a fallacy that m...
[23:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:definition of tech - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:55] <exec> 08└─Actually, most of the adults I know would not know what that acronym meant, because they're too busy getting the actual real shit done to worry about what extreme groups of loons are saying about each other on the internet. I hope to be like them when I grow up.
[23:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:definition of tech - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:56] <exec> 08└─An "SJW" is anyone who says anything bad about whites, males, or heterosexuals, or anyone who disagrees about anything with the person using the term.
[23:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02show us the secret sauce! - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:58] <exec> 08└─Yes, everybody can code, it's just us assholes holding the masses back! Everyone can get a $100k job if it weren't for us assholes! Ok, bub, show us the light. I've found English majors who can program just fine given some encouragement and one-on-one help. I've found IT majors who can't code their...
[23:02:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03forkazoo [2561] (Score:1) 02Bimodality is seriously studied in CS education - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:59] <exec> 08└─It's dismissed as a "myth" with the assertion that programmers actually fall along a normal curve, but efforts to measure developers in academia seem to struggle greatly to find this normal curve. http://www.it.uu.se [it.uu.se] I'll believe the...
[23:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02This isn't how you make up nonsense. - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:01] <exec> 08└─Now, THIS: https://docs.google.com [google.com] Is how the pros do it. Disclaimer: All this idiocy is reserved to me. Feel free to spread it around on the risk of your own good name. It's all nonsense anyhow.
[23:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03pnkwarhall [4558] (Score:2) 02Please, No More! - 06The Programming Talent Myth - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:03] <exec> 08└─argh, more of this shit?!
[23:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bait - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:04] <exec> 08└─A bait headline at 8:01 UTC. Oh the humanity.
[23:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Bait - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:06] <exec> 08└─Good job, AC, you made read all the way to the end of the title. Seems you couldn't quite make it to the end of the first paragraph of the summary, and you obviously never bothered reading the linked articles. But nice work anyway, you can certainly feel good about yourself today.
[23:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Correction - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:07] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure DeBeers is stocking up on defoliant right now. They don't need more diamonds. They only need to ensure they have no easy competition.
[23:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Correction - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:09] <exec> 08└─Diamonds aren't rare at all. [knowledgenuts.com] Stop getting suckered out of your money and playing into the DeBeers' cartel's scam. If you really want diamonds (why? there's nothing special about them) don't buy from DeBeers.
[23:03:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Correction - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 1005 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:11] <exec> 08└─DeBeers normal stomping grounds were much further south. They have not been all that active in these equatorial African countries of Liberia, Sierra Leone, and places further north for a long time (They left Sierra Leone in 1984). However, it appears that they have taken some steps to get back into...
[23:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Just Discovered ? - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:12] <exec> 08└─I disagree. If the discovery was new, you would be correct, but, since the plant itself is new, the article's author is correct in his usage, IMHO. "But the new plant , identified as Pandanus candelabrum, is the first indicator species for diamond-bearing kimberlite." A geologist has discovered a th...
[23:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Just Discovered ? - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:14] <exec> 08└─"But the new plant, identified as Pandanus candelabrum
[23:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02I saw a simulator of this scenario - 06Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:15] <exec> 08└─Are you sure it wasn't initially deposited by metorite near the Tiber River? https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[23:03:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Quantum Insert Obama into Write-In Ballots - 06How to Detect ‘Quantum Insert’ Attacks - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:17] <exec> 08└─You don't know it now, but you will be reelecting The Obama. It makes no difference who you think you vote for. Every vote is a vote for Obama. Now go out and vote, stupid motherfuckers. Obama Forever!! For someone with that much control he's not done a very good job with it. Probably a good thing i...
[23:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quantum - 06How to Detect ‘Quantum Insert’ Attacks - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:19] <exec> 08└─I picture thing involving entangled photos
[23:03:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02The (currently independent)working class candidate - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 349 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:20] <exec> 08└─Bernie Sanders (aka America's Senator) announced his presidential candidacy Thursday. You will have to look long and hard to find someone better on workers' rights and anti-austerity. His weakness is that, after initial resistance to military aggression and domestic snooping, he tends to cave on sub...
[23:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:The (currently independent)working class candid - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:23] <exec> 08└─Yes. The sound of velcro, terminating in the comic "Pop!" sound of cartoon champagne corks.
[23:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:The (currently independent)working class candid - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:25] <exec> 08└─Oh, boo hoo, I'm pretending that men aren't going to win the presidency in 2016 in spite of 230 years of precedent saying the exact opposite, and the fact that 5/7 announced candidates are male. Wah wah. All I'll say about Fiorina is that she's the least crazy republican on the ballot right now. She...
[23:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The (currently independent)working class candid - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:26] <exec> 08└─All I'll say about Fiorina is that she's the least crazy republican on the ballot right now.
[23:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:The (currently independent)working class candid - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:28] <exec> 08└─Maybe. But surprisingly, the "nut base" only managed to pick moderately crazy people in 2008 and 2012. I mean, Romney was a massively shitty person, but he wasn't on the crazy level with Huckabee, Cain, or Perry(who in turn were a step below bachman in crazy). Their vice presidential candidates were...
[23:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:The (currently independent)working class candid - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:30] <exec> 08└─He isn't a she. No man will win. With such a clear historical trend on your side how could you possibly be wrong?
[23:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:39] <exec> 08└─There will be no seceding here in Canada... we do NOT suck seeds!!!! :-#
[23:03:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Sign your own name to your comments, shithead - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 149 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:43] <exec> 08└─Dude, if you aren't going to log in, you can't complain if another AC impersonates you. Well you can complain, but you will get nearly zero sympathy.
[23:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Signing someone else's name - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:50] <exec> 08└─It'd be funny if Soylent's fork allowed the signing of posts with GPG. Hey! What about a Soylent hosted keyserver - where you could register your fake-name? I'm onto something here... Where'd you hide the Doritos?
[23:03:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 2118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:59] <exec> 08└─I was working in a Canadian EDS call center - pre-merger - on an HP contract when Carly was there. One of our most abnormally busy weeks (so not counting the week with Dec. 25th) could be, if my corporate masters were to be believed, traced to her corporate reorganizing. Essentially the inkjet print...
[23:04:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:01] <exec> 08└─I imagine that would be true of anyone who's job was under review to be terminated. Cost cutters are seldom popular. Note: Not saying she helped HP all that much. They were bloated, unprofitable, and heading downward before she got there. They still have a habit of divesting themselves of huge chunk...
[23:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:02] <exec> 08└─The US is already at that point.
[23:04:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can do for USA what she did for HP! - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:04] <exec> 08└─disregard this, I suck cocks -- gewg_
[23:04:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03captain normal [2205] 02Re:She's running for VP - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 82 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:07] <exec> 08└─Worked for Ron Reagan. Never overestimate the intelligence of the American public.
[23:04:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:She's running for VP - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 85 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:09] <exec> 08└─She knows the Republicans will be tempted to pick a female VP to help against Hillary
[23:04:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:She's running for VP - 06Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:11] <exec> 08└─unfortunately thats only about 10% of voters and everyone else says F that either in whole or at least in part.
[23:04:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hartree [195] 02A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 501 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:41] <exec> 08└─This has been my beef with password complexity verifiers and frequent password change policies. Most people can't remember them (maybe that's not the way it should be, but for most it is). So, they resort to writing them on a slip of paper in a wallet or taped to the underside of the keyboard, or th...
[23:04:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BK [4868] 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 44 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:45] <exec> 08└─They changed it to Password4 after the show.
[23:04:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:46] <exec> 08└─Hah! Hah! Hah!....wait... It is a powerful illustration of the sorry state of things when your comment needs to be modded +1 Funny, +1 Informative, and +1 Insightful all at the same time, and yet only YOU('BK') know if you meant it as a joke, or was serious. So, hedging my bets, I tasted vomit as I...
[23:04:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:48] <exec> 08└─That would be too obvious. They went straight to 5. They're not stupid.
[23:04:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:50] <exec> 08└─Actually, it's a LOT better. You can (normally) only read the password taped to the monitor from within the room that the monitor is in. Sometimes that's all the improvement that's needed.
[23:04:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:56] <exec> 08└─So if its easily guessed or present on a top 5000 passwords list or something they'll be in within a few days. A few minutes if they have a botnet.
[23:04:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:58] <exec> 08└─Every one I'm familiar with locks *the user account*
[23:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:A very common situation: - 06Train Control Centre Passwords Revealed on BBC TV - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:05] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I actually stumbled over that factoid after I posted. I'd originally misread the line in the summary: One might wonder if overstrict password policy brought this about, except obviously a strict password policy would not allow the password that is stickied to the monitor..
[23:05:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is not a new idea - 06Save The Internet By Rewiring It From The Name Up - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:31] <exec> 08└─This seems like a solution in search of a problem.
[23:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:where is it? - 06Save The Internet By Rewiring It From The Name Up - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:41] <exec> 08└─There are systems already that just use the hash as the URL (Freenet has used such a system for many years)...so you might as well just use that. I mean if you have to have the hash to verify that you're getting the right file, you might as well just use the hash to retrieve it in the first place...
[23:05:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:free domain names - 06Save The Internet By Rewiring It From The Name Up - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:43] <exec> 08└─This is most certainly not spam... It's a 'woosh' and a 'touche' at least...
[23:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Low Key Religion - 06Why Scientists Love 'Lord of the Rings' - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:06] <exec> 08└─What I find most flawed about Narnia is that Aslan (Jesus) is playing games, and no one seems to get that. So, exactly like the bible, then?
[23:06:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gman003 [4155] 02Re:Low Key Religion - 06Why Scientists Love 'Lord of the Rings' - 1925 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:07] <exec> 08└─The difference I see between Tolkien and Lewis is that the former built a world that reflected his religion, and the latter built a world that existed only to advance the cause of his religion. If you had no idea what catholicism or christianity were, you'd learn nothing about it by reading Tolkien....
[23:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Middle-Earth was built on reality - 06Why Scientists Love 'Lord of the Rings' - 1553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:13] <exec> 08└─A very nice post. Having read Tolkein's work multiple times, I sometimes get the feeling that religious folks want to project their desire to have it represented (i.e. religion, any religion) rather than more general concepts which exist in our culture. Just because someone claims to be a staunch Ca...
[23:06:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Not sure about the speeding - 06Hungry Australians can Track their Pizzas’ Journey to their Doors - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:44] <exec> 08└─If you're on a bike turning a corner, you would lean inwards at the precise angle to best counter the force. Pizza boxes unfortunately don't have the ability to lean. :)
[23:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Real projects only, please - 06Potential SN Feature: Shameless OSS Plugs - 877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah, if there's one thing we DON'T need, it's yet another review of the latest KDE release or whatever. I think we ought to look more at the quality of the project than how many developers or users it may have. If we're only covering big-name projects many of us already knows about, what's the poin...
[23:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible idea - 06Potential SN Feature: Shameless OSS Plugs - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:37] <exec> 08└─We could use some weekend traffic, as it seems everyone visits here from their work. In fact the weekend is the perfect time for this sort of not-quite-main-page material.
[23:08:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Correlation does not equal causation - 06 Childhood bullying: Worse Long-Term Mental Health than Maltreatment by Adult - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:42] <exec> 08└─In my observation, you are correct. Alphas do not fight or bully; they're completely socially secure and have no need to fight (not even with each other). Betas do not attack alphas. Only betas fight, and only with other betas, and in a fight, the socially-lower individual always loses. Betas come i...
[23:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Please correct me if I have it wrong.... - 06What Happens to your Brain on the Way to Mars? - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:37] <exec> 08└─Or would it be called "lunasynchronous" on the Moon?
[23:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What happens to the brain? - 06What Happens to your Brain on the Way to Mars? - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:53] <exec> 08└─I've already been on Mars. The bar was completely damaged afterwards. Therefore a warning: Mars is too weak to survive humans standing on it. Stay away.
[23:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anyone surprised? - 06Grocery Chains Use Data Mining, Mobile Apps to Gobble Up Customers - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:06] <exec> 08└─Why pay for surveillance when you can get a free ride from someone else doing the same thing?
[23:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Anyone surprised? - 06Grocery Chains Use Data Mining, Mobile Apps to Gobble Up Customers - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:12] <exec> 08└─This. I was hoping those who'd prefer to shop at "save-n-pack" type places would chime in whether something like this would be worth the convenience. Place an order on your cell phone, p/u the order later in the day (that's where all this is headed). Coupons automatically included. Swipe your phone...
[23:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Son lives in Commerce, Texas - 06Two Gunmen Shot Dead at "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" Contest in Garland, Texas - 1499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:04] <exec> 08└─I specifically quoted the sentences where Christianity is mentioned, because A) Hitchens is replying to a chrisitan and B) I wanted to show the similarity between Muslims and Christians - something that Hitchens is actually talking about. It is same with all the religions, otherwise they won't be po...
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[23:59:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02[ANN] Stupid Sockets Layer - 06Mozilla: HTTPS is Coming. Get Out of the Way! - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:59:14] <exec> 08└─One other major argument against ridding ourselves of HTTP is pure performance, encryption is expensive, and why burn that power encrypting things that have no need to be encrypted.
[23:59:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:If authoritarians "split the baby", it dies - 06NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:26] <exec> 08└─As recognized in Marbury vs Madison and Norton vs Shelby County : An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.
[23:59:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fauxlosopher [4804] (Score:1) 02Re:If authoritarians "split the baby", it dies - 06NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:27] <exec> 08└─As I've pointed out to you in the past, until declared unconstitutional [...] its still the law
[23:59:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If authoritarians "split the baby", it dies - 06NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:29] <exec> 08└─The founding fathers wisely left that to the courts in the constitution.
[23:59:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:People have short memory - 06NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:31] <exec> 08└─Let's see how the quack-o-meter looks... Throw away the mobile spying device. If you cannot trust the phone line, do not say anything important, or any business details, or any business ideas.
[23:59:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Progress of a kind - 06F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:47] <exec> 08└─Does it really matter? Of the two points that thexalon made, the issue of whether the big money is split between multiple family members is dwarfed by the fact that Sanders is explicitly opposed to taking big money.