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[00:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02life might have had life in the past - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:55] <exec> 08└─2 billion years ago, Mars was warmer and wetter because it had a dense atmosphere and possibly a molten core. however, sunlight has slowly stripped it away which let in more cosmic rays, lost a lot of heat and solidified the core. it's still possible something is living on mars but i think it would...
[00:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02difference - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:56] <exec> 08└─I life evolved there prior to present conditions then it is likely that there are extremephobes. If those are the conditions for the initial emergence of life I'd doubt it would happen. There is a key difference between life beginning in an extreme environment to existant life adapting to extreme co...
[00:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Or the toilet. - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:16] <exec> 08└─make it a lottery. will it completely burn up on entry? if not, where will it strike?
[00:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Setup a robotic recycling satellite - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 812 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:26] <exec> 08└─Your thoughts are similar to my own. We went to great expense to get all that stuff up there. It would be great if we could just boost that scrap yard up a little higher, and park it in a more stable orbit. Maybe 3/4 or more of it is useless to us today, but in 20 or 50 years, the salvage rights cou...
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[01:26:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Mars doesn't have a magnetic field - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:26:51] <exec> 08└─the earth's magnetic field protects us from the solar wind; with no magnet field on mars, its upper atmosphere is blasted away by solar wind particles.
[01:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:life might have had life in the past - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:26:54] <exec> 08└─How the fuck do you, or even any scientist, have any idea about the state of Mars' core?
[01:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:difference - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:26:55] <exec> 08└─Extremephobes? A group who are opposed to extremes or extremists? Did you mean extremophiles? That's the least wrong part of your posting.
[01:26:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Yes what an argument - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:57] <exec> 08└─I mean, bacteria are found on one planet, so bacteria could be found on another planet too! They have similar conditions, they are round, they have a day/night cycle, they have gravity and an atmosphere... The main difference between Earth and Mars is - there actually IS life on Earth. Life that cou...
[01:26:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes what an argument - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:26:58] <exec> 08└─Won't you feel like a dumbass when they finally do find syphilis living on Mars.
[01:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:27:14] <exec> 08└─Sounds like every Japanese comic or cartoon I've ever had the displeasure of seeing.
[01:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:27:15] <exec> 08└─It's sad to see that the downvoting here is getting almost as bad as it is at reddit. Comics from Japan are well known for their rather unique content. Pointing this fact out shouldn't result in punishment here.
[01:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At the risk of repeating myself... - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:27:17] <exec> 08└─What's a "Roko's Basilisk"?
[01:27:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02Re:Setup a robotic recycling satellite - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:27:44] <exec> 08└─Fuel for thrusters can perhaps be siphoned
[01:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Persistence file? - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:52] <exec> 08└─Go to settings and set junk persistence to 0....poof.....no more space junk! Well, it worked in KSP... https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com]
[01:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Ethical Issues - 06NIH Won't Fund Human Germline Modification - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:17] <exec> 08└─ethical issues presented by altering the germline in a way that affects the next generation without their consent
[01:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:French intelligence services - 06Study tracks U.S. boycott of French-sounding products during 2003 Iraq war. - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:37] <exec> 08└─I was so disappointed in Gen Powell over that. It just seemed so against his character and was unforgivable. That guy could have run for president if he would have done things a little bit different.
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[02:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02When I'm on life support - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:58] <exec> 08└─I want my family to turn the machines off, wait 30 seconds, turn them back on, and see if that solves the problem.
[02:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wasn't that also a windows bug? - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:59] <exec> 08└─They must still be using windows 98.
[02:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Would Rust have avoided this? - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:01] <exec> 08└─I hear that Rust is the safest programming language ever made. Would it have avoided this bug?
[02:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Was systemd to blame? - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:03] <exec> 08└─What the fuck does systemd have to do with any of this? The article doesn't mention systemd. It doesn't even mention Linux. Why the fuck would you even bring up systemd when it clearly wasn't involved at all?
[02:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Its a software bug. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:04] <exec> 08└─Re-load corrected software and carry on. Glad they found this bug in the lab instead of a post-mortem flight recorder analysis or close call in flight. Sorry, no rant this time. This sounds just like something I might accidentally do myself. This kind of stuff happens every time one tries to build...
[02:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mars doesn't have a magnetic field - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:24:13] <exec> 08└─So Mike, how are things in King County?
[02:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Actually I am in Clark County - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:24:14] <exec> 08└─but there's lots more jobs for coders in King County.
[02:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:24:30] <exec> 08└─Have you really never heard about hentai [wikipedia.org]? What was described in that earlier comment is a core component of Japanese culture, for hundreds of years [wikipedia.org].
[02:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 773 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:24:31] <exec> 08└─"Japanese comics" are a medium. There are way more normal comics than octoporn. "Know Japanese to read the text" Yeah sure. No translations anywhere. [bato.to] "They were full of octopi engaging in the repeated sexual molestation of human beings. The drawing style was absolute shit. You have to know...
[02:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:24:33] <exec> 08└─They're not octopus dumb ass, they are tentacle monsters.
[02:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Setup a robotic recycling satellite - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 1517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:24:55] <exec> 08└─Insightful... up in space, there is no atmosphere to oxidize your stuff and no gravity to pull it apart. I keep envisioning a big concave mirror which is mostly mylar foil arranged like a solar sail, which is temporarily deployed at the salvage site. You put your "useless" stuff at the focal point,...
[02:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Is that even theoretically possible?" - 06The UK Generated 19.2% of its Electricity from Renewables in 2014 - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:42] <exec> 08└─Short memory. Bus Powered by Human Poop Begins Service this Week in UK [soylentnews.org] Process Converts Human Waste into Rocket Fuel [soylentnews.org] -- gewg_
[02:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I tried using Bitcoin once. - 06Bitcoin Disrupting Argentina's Financial System - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:28:55] <exec> 08└─Maybe you like it when someone pokes you in the eye, that doesn't make it any less anti-social.
[02:29:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shady - 06Bitcoin Disrupting Argentina's Financial System - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:29:25] <exec> 08└─Mere diarrhea is for n00bs! A man's not going pro until hand-washing unexpected wet farts from underwear at work and sneakily drying them in the office microwave becomes a commonplace afternoon activity along with the 'ouch my hemorrhoids' chair dance.
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[03:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When I'm on life support - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:54] <exec> 08└─You do know that doing that will likely result in a near-death erection, right?
[03:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wasn't that also a windows bug? - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:56] <exec> 08└─Windows 98 crashed after 49.7 days, so you see 248 days is much better. But let's face facts, nerd. You haven't used Windows since 98, have you, penguin fucker? Here's your chance to stop flying Boeing, you assmuncher.
[03:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Its a software bug. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:00] <exec> 08└─That's fine in a regular consumer product. But safety critical code has a much higher standard to meet, just as safety-critical hardware does. Kind of like Toyota's problems. [edn.com]
[03:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I spent six months in the San Luis Obispo County- - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:02] <exec> 08└─- Jail, because I told a Grover Beach Police Department Officer that I was researching the effects of software faults on aviation safety. He charged me with the felony of making terrorist threats; I was never able to make the $50,000.00 bail. I plea bargained to a lesser felony in hopes of paying $1...
[03:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I spent six months in the San Luis Obispo Count - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:03] <exec> 08└─What the fuck?
[03:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I spent six months in the San Luis Obispo Count - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:05] <exec> 08└─Go home Michael, you're drunk.
[03:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:life might have had life in the past - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:17] <exec> 08└─How the fuck do you, or even any scientist, have any idea about the state of Mars' core?
[03:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:life might have had life in the past - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:18] <exec> 08└─How the fuck do you, or even any scientist, have any idea about the state of Mars' core?
[03:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:difference - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:20] <exec> 08└─He's talking about social justice warriors.
[03:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes what an argument - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:23] <exec> 08└─Won't you feel like a dumbass when they finally do find syphilis living on Mars.
[03:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes what an argument - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:25] <exec> 08└─I promise to eat a spoonful if they do discover syphilis on Mars.
[03:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:38] <exec> 08└─Sure you aren't the deviant?
[03:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:39] <exec> 08└─Don't stand up, sit down. You can be the Rosa Parks of fighting off degenerate Japanese tentacle hentai. Your story was fake and gay. You don't know shit about animus and mangoes, and I believe tentacle rape isn't wrong (and Hitler is seriously underrated). Obviously the export of tentacle rape isn'...
[03:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:40] <exec> 08└─What the fuck are you going on about?
[03:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:42] <exec> 08└─Your shitty, ignorant, irrelevant posts.
[03:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:44] <exec> 08└─We're talking about comics, and you start advocating for tentacle rape. Whatever conversation you're having is clearly very different from the conversation the rest of us are having.
[03:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02Where to go.... - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:47] <exec> 08└─Is there a website that list all comic book stores so one can look up the nearest one to them?
[03:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where to go.... - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:49] <exec> 08└─Yeah, it's called Google Maps. https://www.google.com [google.com]
[03:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where to go.... - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:50] <exec> 08└─https://www.google.com/maps/search/comic+book+stores+near+me/ [google.com]
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[04:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Wasn't that also a windows bug? - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:05] <exec> 08└─Fucking windows 98! ... [youtube.com]
[04:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Would Rust have avoided this? - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:07] <exec> 08└─no
[04:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Its a software bug. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 1281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:11] <exec> 08└─All I can say is shit happens... no matter what. You can be as careful as you can be, and if you are too meticulous about it, even get fired for taking too long and being a perfectionist. One of my bosses put it this way: "There comes a time in the life of every project when you have to shoot the en...
[04:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Its a software bug. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:13] <exec> 08└─"This kind of stuff happens every time one tries to build something new." Ahh...maybe an answer to what happened to Google Maps.
[04:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Its a software bug. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:15] <exec> 08└─Ahh...maybe an answer to what happened to Google Maps.
[04:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I don't drink. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:18] <exec> 08└─Really I don't. All I've had today is coffee.
[04:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:I spent six months in the San Luis Obispo Count - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:20] <exec> 08└─Link the arrest records. Or do we need to look for them ourselves (we have your name and SSN)
[04:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02the arrest record doesn't seem to be online anymor - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:24:21] <exec> 08└─-e. Perhaps I could dig up a website with my guilty plea. Really I have more productive work to do right now.
[04:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are Japanese comics so fucked up? - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:25:00] <exec> 08└─Let's continue the conversation Why did your "friend" show off his porn collection? What specifically was wrong with the drawing style? Was it not realistic enough for you? What's wrong with tentacle rape? Why would the Japanese text matter? You could tell what was going on. What percent of Japanese...
[04:25:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Where to go.... - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:25:07] <exec> 08└─I'm amazed that you actually got that search to work, and that the link actually worked in the new Google Maps!
[04:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Germline?? - 06NIH Won't Fund Human Germline Modification - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:26:01] <exec> 08└─I can't believe that 17 comments went by and no one caught the difference between genome and germline. Unless of course, that was what the first post intended. I guess this crew is not too sharp on the weekends.
[04:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Win-win" - 06The UK Generated 19.2% of its Electricity from Renewables in 2014 - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:26:24] <exec> 08└─...until you realize that Britons whose jobs are now in China can't buy your products. ...and neither can the Chinese who are paid 80p/hr. Henry Ford and John Maynard Keynes had this figured out about a century ago. MBAs, OTOH, never study economics. (Knowing Excel is enough, apparently.) This is th...
[04:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:French don't even have a word - 06Study tracks U.S. boycott of French-sounding products during 2003 Iraq war. - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:47] <exec> 08└─Hint for Republicans and less educated libertarians: "entreprenuer" is, in fact, a French word.
[04:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the fuck is "Stingray"? - 06Robbery Suspect Pulls Guilty Plea After Stingray Disclosure, Case Dropped - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:31:04] <exec> 08└─Clear communication is not about 'spoon-feeding'.
[04:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:What the fuck is "Stingray"? - 06Robbery Suspect Pulls Guilty Plea After Stingray Disclosure, Case Dropped - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:31:05] <exec> 08└─In fraction of a minute I could have read a one-sentence description of this particular genericly-named program. But if you think the Darmok approach to reporting the news is preferable my arms are open.
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[05:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02Contextual Synonyms To Invented - 06The Pioneer Who Invented the Weather Forecast - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:54] <exec> 08└─established, constructed, designed, assembled, composed, combined... c'mon, deckard, teach me some english...
[05:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:When I'm on life support - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:24:04] <exec> 08└─Time for one final ride before you are gone!
[05:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I'm not the guy who did time in Walla-Walla - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:24:22] <exec> 08└─I don't really know but speculate that the reason I have trouble finding work, is that a completely different Michael David Crawford did time in the Washington State Pen, then went on to perish in a shootout with the Tacoma Police.
[05:24:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03rst [2175] (Score:1) 02what are the chances... - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:23] <exec> 08└─What are the chances the thing will run 248 days without a power cycle? How often do you have to change the oil? Not saying they shouldn't fix it, but does this bug matter in any practical sense? I would guess sense they found the bug in the lab, not at a crash site ...
[05:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:difference - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:24:41] <exec> 08└─Still, anom didn't state what was wring with the reasoning , so fuck off.
[05:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Stop making it worse and be patient - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:25:37] <exec> 08└─Why should smaller space junk fall into the gravity well faster than the larger? Galileo showed that size and weight didn't matter. The only thing that could slow a fall is the atmosphere, and it would affect the smaller, lighter pieces more than the larger, heavier pieces.
[05:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:I have a notion of using magnetic induction - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:25:43] <exec> 08└─Your music download and concert links are still busted.
[05:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So they don't want.. - 06NIH Won't Fund Human Germline Modification - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:25:59] <exec> 08└─No one wants to run apart from those 2 because the rest of the population are yes-men.
[05:27:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:So where is the 3D model? - 06The Pillars of Creation Rendered in 3D - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:11] <exec> 08└─Camelot! Or as Patsy said, "it's only a model." What I would like to know is where did they get the side view of the Eagle Nebula?
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[06:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Great Story! - 06The Pioneer Who Invented the Weather Forecast - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:20] <exec> 08└─Thanks for posting this story. While it may not be news as such, it was exactly the kind of stuff I like to read about. That doesn't mean I don't want more actual news stories, but still, it was an interesting read.
[06:25:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:what are the chances... - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:25:50] <exec> 08└─The chances are basically "by the time this bug triggers off, you'll probably have crashed already". The plane is powered off during routine maintenance (supposed to be no more than 10 days between these IIRC). The generators are also connected to the engines, which also need to undergo maintenance...
[06:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Sorry - I'll fix those later tonight. - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:27:14] <exec> 08└─I won't be able to fix the torrents for a little while as I need to set up a new tracker. I'll post a reply when the downloads links are fixed.
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[07:23:53] <exec> 08└─Zoomingo's Jobs page serves pr0n.
[07:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Owned, ey...really? - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:23:55] <exec> 08└─If his browser wasn't owned before it may be now, by visiting that domain loading whatever the hijack made it serve alongside the porn.
[07:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02abuse@zoomingo.com - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 1211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:56] <exec> 08└─The first whack I would take is emailing to "abuse@zoomingo.com". Abuse is becoming so common that many webmasters use this name so feedback relating to this goes directly to the webmaster. I have used this a few times already to alert webmasters whose site was spewing phishes behind their back. I h...
[07:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Tech jobs - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:58] <exec> 08└─Mike, if you really want a good job, all you need to do is adapt a British (or any European country) accent. Then you can go to work for Google and get a good salary for taking a great UI web site and loading it with mystery meat navigation and broken links. Just like these guys: http://www.theblaz...
[07:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03toygeek [28] (Score:3, Informative) 02Web Hosting 101 - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 1207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:24:00] <exec> 08└─This is pretty basic web hosting knowledge, and this applies to any type of situation like this. In this case, you've got a site that is hosted on Amazon Web Services: root@home:~# host zoomingo.com zoomingo.com has address 107.21.231.44 root@home:~# host 107.21.231.44 44.231.21.107.in-addr.arpa dom...
[07:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Its a software bug. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:24:25] <exec> 08└─By golly, if I build it, I want it to work until you no longer want it. That is how I expect things to be built for me
[07:25:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At the risk of repeating myself... - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:25:22] <exec> 08└─It's a particular logical philosophical argument that can cause serious trauma to those capable of understanding it, if they agree with the underlying premises. Google it if you want to know more.
[07:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:1) 02Re:At the risk of repeating myself... - 06"Free Comic Book Day" Event Features Neil Gaiman, The Simpsons - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:25:23] <exec> 08└─What's a "Roko's Basilisk"?
[07:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stop making it worse and be patient - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:25:53] <exec> 08└─IANAP, but there is pressure from solar radiation, which becomes important for objects with a large area to mass ratio. Big, compact chunks (low area, high mass) don't suffer much perturbation, but smaller, lighter, less compact chunks (little mass for high area) end up cast into orbits that descend...
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[08:25:41] <exec> 08└─Yeh, I *try* not to enable it, but many businesses flat will not talk to you unless you enable it. Now, for a *real* exercise in futility, try to use healthcare.gov with a malware-hardened system!!! I cannot get it to do a thing until I go online to them with complete vulnerability to everything. I...
[08:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:A little disappointing - 06Tesla Announces Powerwall Home Battery - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:34:37] <exec> 08└─I have heard the Tesla battery pack is made internally of arrays of 18650 cells. These could be very useful in doomsday scenarios, as a lot of stuff runs on lithium 18650 cells. Heck, I just got through converting my old Braun shaver to run on an external pair of 18650 I recovered from a spent lapto...
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[09:24:11] <exec> 08└─Run the browser in a chroot-jail (or VM if on windows).
[09:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02ha - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:15] <exec> 08└─This is one of those cases where those that didn't RTFA will kick themselves later.
[09:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02postmaster - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:16] <exec> 08└─If abuse@domain doesn't work you could try writing to postmaster@domain [wikipedia.org]. It's technically a requirement for all email servers, but the web sector isn't very big on the whole standards compliance thing as you probably know.
[09:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Contact us - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:18] <exec> 08└─Try the form on the Contact Us page. Really, that's the end of it, you've done your good deed. If they reject the effort to help, that's on them.
[09:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Its a software bug. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:24:47] <exec> 08└─Yes, I have heard of planned obsolescence. Sounds just like suit-guy thinking. Personally, I would like to take all that broken crap he fathered and ram it up his a**. And that's putting it nicely. I read that link you gave me and was convinced we would have all been better off if no-one would have...
[09:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't drink. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:24:54] <exec> 08└─But if you don't drink, how do you ingest the coffee? *ducks*
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[10:24:57] <exec> 08└─Yeah, healthcare.gov is a piece of garbage, which is especially inexcusable because you practically have to use it. This is likely the result of rampant corporatism in government.
[10:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Owned, ey...really? - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:24:58] <exec> 08└─I still have not gotten healthcare.gov to work. It keeps showing me the same page over and over and over. It often sends me to pages with nothing on them. Just a logo and a picture of a smiling person. And maybe some comfort words like "we're here to help". I do not know what it is I am supposed to...
[10:25:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03toygeek [28] 02Web Hosting 101 - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 1207 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:02] <exec> 08└─This is pretty basic web hosting knowledge, and this applies to any type of situation like this. In this case, you've got a site that is hosted on Amazon Web Services: root@home:~# host zoomingo.com zoomingo.com has address 107.21.231.44 root@home:~# host 107.21.231.44 44.231.21.107.in-addr.arpa dom...
[10:25:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02inform? nuke from orbit! - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 995 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:25:04] <exec> 08└─not that im advocating vigilantism, heavens no. However, if there's nothing "lawful" to be done... owner is dead/doesn't care/wontfix/goes aggro on you...? Time to go chaotic good on his ass. So this lame site is pissing you off by its existence... AND it runs wordpress for cavemen... a quick stroll...
[10:25:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:inform? nuke from orbit! - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:25:05] <exec> 08└─I'm sure Amazon is not interested in serving porn, and probably has some terms in its contracts to that effect. So I guess if the web site owner is unresponsive also to Amazon, they'll simply shut down his site in accord with the contract.
[10:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I have similar problems - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:09] <exec> 08└─It doesn't seem to matter which site I read, there always appears to be a private browsing tab open and a pile of damp kleenex on my floor. I should probably start reporting this to web site operators as it can be embarrassing when I am on public transport. Does anybody have any tips?
[10:30:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:Remote Linux kernel vulnerability exploited!?! - 06Spam-Blasting Malware Infects Thousands of Linux and FreeBSD Servers - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:30:50] <exec> 08└─Not gewg's fault, don't shoot messenger, it's all on Ars.
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[11:25:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02He Has A Point - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 1449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:12] <exec> 08└─O'Reilly has a point, but only up to a point. For lack of a better word, "debugging" government is almost impossible. There are far too many personalities involved, not to mention personal, political & corporate interests. Removing the "professional politicians" and the greed & corruption would help...
[11:25:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Like filling out online forms - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:13] <exec> 08└─Do you still beat your wife? [Yes] [No] ERROR MUST SELECT AN ANSWER etc.
[11:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Redundant) 02Re:Like filling out online forms - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:14] <exec> 08└─When was the last time you beat your wife: O < 1 day ago O < 7 days ago O < 1 month ago O < 1 year ago O >= 1 year ago Must select exactly one
[11:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:2) 02Manna - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:16] <exec> 08└─This reminds me of a short story called Manna [marshallbrain.com] that was mentioned in a comment on another article recently.
[11:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Manna - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:17] <exec> 08└─Well at least you're not one of those idiots who insist that the Australia Project is supposed to be a better outcome than Burger G. ............cue the morons who think forced brain implants and total lack of privacy are good things.
[11:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02VOTE BARAK 2016 - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:19] <exec> 08└─Our computer models clearly indicate EIGHT MORE YEARS OF BARRY OBAMA would be better than any alternative we gave to the computer. VOTE BARACK OBAMA FOREVER
[11:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Owned, ey...really? - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:32] <exec> 08└─I am rather miffed at the American people for not asking their Congressmen to clean up this mess.
[11:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:I have similar problems - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:42] <exec> 08└─Buy a trash can and a box of small garbage bags to line it?
[11:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This is a non-story - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:44] <exec> 08└─I attempted to contact Zoomingo through their contact page a few days ago but met with no response. I called the Domains by Proxy number listed in their WHOIS, only to reach a totally clueless customer service agent. He was generally nice about it, but quite confused.
[11:25:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02kuro5hin - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:45] <exec> 08└─OP: dontcha miss it?
[11:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Chaotic - 06The Pioneer Who Invented the Weather Forecast - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:56] <exec> 08└─as the belief persisted among many that weather was completely chaotic.
[11:26:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't drink. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:26:25] <exec> 08└─How do you use ducks to ingest coffee?
[11:26:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Informative) 0232 bit signed int, 100 ticks per second - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:26:31] <exec> 08└─I wondered what would cause that overflow after 248 days, and played with the numbers. It turns out that if you measure time in 1/100 seconds, a 32 bit signed int will overflow in 248 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes and 56.48 seconds.
[11:30:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jesus_666 [3044] (Score:2) 02Not surprising - 06How to Crack Many Master Lock Combinations in Eight Tries or Less - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:30:09] <exec> 08└─There are YouTube channels of people who have lockpicking as their hobby and will pick any lock sent to them. Interesting to watch and you learn a few things about locks. One thing I learned is that Master locks have a tendency [youtube.com] to be really [youtube.com], really [youtube.com] bad [you...
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[11:31:36] <exec> 08└─Having PHP is not a big problem: You can get rid of it with a simple apt-get purge
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[12:24:00] <exec> 08└─But the Australia Project is better and better! And like it pays lip service to open source, dude. The Vertebrane can't possibly be bad, m'kay. Here, try one! Just let me sever your neck. Come on, stop resisting, motherfucker.
[12:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02legal analogy - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:24:02] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't the legal analogy of algorithmic regulation be criminal justice mandatory minimums, which virtually everyone other than "get tough on crime" politicians sees as a BS idea? This analogy serves two purposes: 1) This is how we get stuck with cruddy systems and stupid mandatory minimums have be...
[12:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Send it to the listed contact address.... - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:24:29] <exec> 08└─Domains by Proxy may forward the email, depending on the settings that the domain owner has used.
[12:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chaotic - 06The Pioneer Who Invented the Weather Forecast - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:24:40] <exec> 08└─Thank you Captain Obvious.
[12:25:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 0232 bit signed int, 100 ticks per second - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 229 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:15] <exec> 08└─I wondered what would cause that overflow after 248 days, and played with the numbers. It turns out that if you measure time in 1/100 seconds, a 32 bit signed int will overflow in 248 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes and 56.48 seconds.
[12:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Setup a robotic recycling satellite - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 1322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:24] <exec> 08└─What you need is a "tar baby"...remember the old story about the rabbit getting stuck in the tar baby and being unable to escape? The problem with the debris isn't the whole dead sats, those are easy enough to keep up with and move with one of several methods, its the billions of small pieces of cra...
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[13:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02What would happen ... - 06More Trouble at ICANN - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:53] <exec> 08└─What would happen if this were the responsibility of another organization ? In the end, I think that Peter's Principle applies to organizations as well. Whether it is ICANN or whether it is handed to over to United Nations, there will be abuse of power.
[13:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02Re:What would happen ... - 06More Trouble at ICANN - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:54] <exec> 08└─So for it to work properly, it needs to be completely decentralised. I presume that would mean something like spammers grabbing domains for eternity, and the rest of us just have to get used to ipv6 addresses.
[13:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What would happen ... - 06More Trouble at ICANN - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:56] <exec> 08└─Sure, there will be organisations trying to game the system. Really the ITU or IETF should be looking after the DNS root system with proposals evaluated purely on technical merit. The new gTLDs appear to be bogus, there's no reason for them -- market forces can be used to defeat domain squatting an...
[13:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Manna - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 4049 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:09] <exec> 08└─Three things about the "manna" program implementation that have not been explored in SN past discussion that I can recall: 1) OK its a VERY thinly skinned taskrabbit or mechanicalturk. The problem is some guys I know used to play a turk drinking game where you only drink as much as you pay for by tu...
[13:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:legal analogy - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:12] <exec> 08└─It is worse than mandatory minimums because at least those are transparent. One of the biggest problems with algorithmic regulation is that it is opaque. It spits out a result but we don't know why. In the best possible version each result would also come with a full explanation of how that result w...
[13:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Great Story! - 06The Pioneer Who Invented the Weather Forecast - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:49] <exec> 08└─True DAT, dog! :-) This is also why I love the bathroom reader series of books... It gives you a story in some depth. If I find it interesting, I research it further. More, please... Damn typing on a tablet is slow.....
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[14:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02A Common Misguided Thought: - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 1087 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:19] <exec> 08└─Implementing technical solutions to what are at base human problems often doesn't work out very well. Somehow, magically, the machine system is supposed do away with the human problems. In reality, it often amplifies them. Why? It's humans programing, running, and critically, authorizing exceptions....
[14:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Owned, ey...really? - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:34] <exec> 08└─Checked and verified. You have to try it in default iOS safari.
[14:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a non-story - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:46] <exec> 08└─You could also go to their office. In person like. Now admittedly, this doesn't make sense if you live in Miami, but I presume these guys are a commutable distance from you. Of course, if they're closed down, you'd find that out. The best option may be to prune them from your list.
[14:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Its a software bug. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:21] <exec> 08└─bernays
[14:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes what an argument - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:58] <exec> 08└─what? If you are what you eat, and you found syphillus living in Uranus, wouldn't that make you feel like an ass if you ate it?
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[15:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Troll) 02These three are not the same. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:54] <exec> 08└─1. Snowden. An American who gave up a modestly lucrative career to expose crimes being committed by our government. 2. Assange. A journalist who published information that was sent to him. 9*1012 Manning. An immature turd who stole information to get back at the people who made fun of him. Perhaps t...
[15:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03toygeek [28] (Score:2) 02Re:inform? nuke from orbit! - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:42] <exec> 08└─I doubt they care about hosting porn. But hosting a compromised site is a liability, and that, they care about.
[15:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03toygeek [28] (Score:2) 02Re:inform? nuke from orbit! - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:43] <exec> 08└─And you sir, and your screwed up morality and ethics, are what is wrong. You DDOS this guys site into oblivion, and take an unknown number of sites with it. When you DDOS a site, this usually results in the sites IP being null routed for a few hours. Now, everyone who has a site on that IP address g...
[15:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is a non-story - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:52] <exec> 08└─I would add that you made your effort to help them. But do not go any further. They obviously do not care why should you? You have made your good faith effort. Remove them from your list and move on. Yes their computer is 'broken' however until someone on their end does something it will remain that...
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[15:25:18] <exec> 08└─Bwahahahaha. Yeah, I learned that a real OS exists, one that doesn't shit on you in the middle of work. Go ahead and keep paying for your infested pile of crap, it was made for idiots like you.
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[16:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:These three are not the same. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:23:54] <exec> 08└─Manning gave us a lot of real information about the world and the way the US rolls. You give us the bullshit company line.
[16:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:These three are not the same. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:23:55] <exec> 08└─I agree. The fact that Manning was unhappy with his work environment is unsurprising. People who are content are much more likely to go along to get along. Maybe Runaway should be condemning all the other people who were happy to let malfeasance continue unchallenged because they loved their jobs so...
[16:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:These three are not the same. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 1099 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:23:57] <exec> 08└─"Maybe Runaway should be condemning all the other people who were happy to let malfeasance continue unchallenged" Maybe you should get to know Runaway better. Runaway despises all the damned fools in Washington who insist that it is necessary to spy on America's citizens, as well as the world's citi...
[16:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What about Aaron Swartz? - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:59] <exec> 08└─What an unconscionable oversight. I'm boycotting this event.
[16:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about Aaron Swartz? - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:00] <exec> 08└─I doubt anyone in the general public in Europe knows who that chap is.
[16:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about Aaron Swartz? - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:02] <exec> 08└─Neither did anyone in the USA until he killed himself. I'm guessing that's part of why he did it.
[16:24:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] 02What would happen ... - 06More Trouble at ICANN - 253 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:08] <exec> 08└─What would happen if this were the responsibility of another organization ? In the end, I think that Peter's Principle applies to organizations as well. Whether it is ICANN or whether it is handed to over to United Nations, there will be abuse of power.
[16:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What would happen ... - 06More Trouble at ICANN - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:11] <exec> 08└─In the end, I think that Peter's Principle applies to organizations as well.
[16:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What would happen ... - 06More Trouble at ICANN - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:13] <exec> 08└─There will always be abuse of power, yes. How it will be dealt with is the interesting part.
[16:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03j-stroy [761] (Score:1) 02Courts of equity - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:30] <exec> 08└─Let's not forget history... A chancery court, equity court or court of equity is a court that is authorized to apply principles of equity, as opposed to law, to cases brought before it. These courts began with petitions to the Lord Chancellor of England. [wikipedia.org]
[16:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:3, Interesting) 02major problem - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 1835 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:31] <exec> 08└─The major problem I see is that the individuals whose lives are affected by these impersonal algorithmic processes usually have no recourse when an error, false positive, or similar thing happens. Individuals don't even usually know what data is being collected on them by shadowy companies that coll...
[16:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Owned, ey...really? - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:46] <exec> 08└─Call to start or finish an application, compare plans, enroll or ask a question. 1-800-318-2596 / TTY: 1-855-889-4325 Available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Closed Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day.
[16:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03toygeek [28] (Score:2) 02Re:Contact us - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:58] <exec> 08└─Emailing their host's abuse department is far more effective.
[16:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Chaotic - 06The Pioneer Who Invented the Weather Forecast - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:18] <exec> 08└─Obviously it was not obvious to Hugh Pickens, or he wouldn't have written it that way.
[16:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Its a software bug. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:43] <exec> 08└─All I can say is shit happens... no matter what. You can be as careful as you can be, and if you are too meticulous about it, even get fired for taking too long and being a perfectionist.
[16:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Coffee Ducks FTW! - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:52] <exec> 08└─Obviously, you are not aware of the new AutoDuck Coffe Swilling System®. It consists of a specially crafted coffee mug with a helical tube that attatches to an IV catheter poked in you, then fill said mug with coffee, set your trained Coffee Duck in mug, and you're done! As the Coffee Duck paddles...
[16:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:life might have had life in the past - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:13] <exec> 08└─Life is STILL perfectly possible on the surface of Mars. Citation: Deutsches Zentrum für Luft- und Raumfahrt [www.dlr.de]
[16:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03sbgen [1302] (Score:1) 02Re. NIH Director's blogpost - 06NIH Won't Fund Human Germline Modification - 1267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:54] <exec> 08└─The response from NIH's director is in keeping with its policies and is not unexpected. That does not mean it is good. I get a feeling this is the beginning of attempts to place restriction on a research area with the basis mostly outside of science. Something similar happened with stem-cell related...
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[17:23:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02it gets ugly - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 2703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:52] <exec> 08└─Sometimes you end up with someone in the group who is 'good' but for some reason takes it upon themselves to be a total dick. Then the group has the problem of how do they get rid of this disaster of an emotional wreck without killing the project. I dont mean the 'hey fix your crap' kind of dick. Bu...
[17:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:These three are not the same. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:03] <exec> 08└─I don't trust people who refer to themselves in the third person, as if they're dictating a biography or Wikipedia entry. Lighten up please.
[17:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:These three are not the same. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:04] <exec> 08└─> Maybe you should get to know Runaway better. You are far less complicated than you imagine. All you've done is restate your original post with more verbosity and extremism, but no more explanation, logic or rationale. Perhaps you have a rich inner life going on, but all that matters to anyone else...
[17:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about Aaron Swartz? - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:09] <exec> 08└─Yeah... since killing himself his life is soooo much better.
[17:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:What about Aaron Swartz? - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:11] <exec> 08└─Not surprising - "American kid commits suicide due to heavy-handed prosecution" doesn't exactly do much for the evening news headlines outside America. Other countries have their own domestic issues to make the news. I only heard about it on tech news sites, zero newspaper/TV/radio coverage came to...
[17:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 2260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:12] <exec> 08└─I can agree with Domino about the idea that it's establishment figures that gets remembered in history, which in turn gets the statues and painting etc. But to claim that those who resist are often forgotten is a very vague statement. Lots of people and groups of people that resisted gets remembered...
[17:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Someone on Reddit reported it to me - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:59] <exec> 08└─Sorry I should have been more clear in my submission - it was reported to me by a complete stranger.
[17:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I did, but they didn't respond. - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:11] <exec> 08└─It's clear to me that many who operate websites, don't visit them themselves. Maybe they see their own homepage but don't visit their own jobs page until a new position opens up. I used their Contact Us form four days before I called Domains by Proxy.
[17:25:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02When I'm on life support - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 114 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:38] <exec> 08└─I want my family to turn the machines off, wait 30 seconds, turn them back on, and see if that solves the problem.
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[18:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02This isn't sports. - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:53] <exec> 08└─This isn't some fabricated divide with camps waving flags and cheering for their hometown solely for the sake of an entertaining competition event. There are major conflict of interests stemming from corporate contributors pushing for their company's interests over other (often also corporate) contr...
[18:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Know what's ugly? - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:54] <exec> 08└─systemd.
[18:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02hammmmm - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:56] <exec> 08└─This is not about open source, it is about human nature. Don't tell me that turf wars and such do not happen in the private workplace.
[18:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03joekiser [1837] (Score:2) 02Re:hammmmm - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 2027 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:58] <exec> 08└─This is not about open source, it is about human nature. Don't tell me that turf wars and such do not happen in the private workplace. Not only in software, but in most other industries as well. For example, I was recently searching for my first digital camera purchase in a decade, and having no ide...
[18:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Email Rage - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:59] <exec> 08└─But often these feelings have an ugly side.
[18:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:These three are not the same. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:12] <exec> 08└─> Liberals admire him, primarily because he is "gender confused". I think that says everything about your ability to analyze the situation.
[18:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:19] <exec> 08└─Snowden had some idea about how he wanted to blow the whistle on what he interpreted as wrong, but just like Manning his actions of stealing and disseminating large amounts of classified information makes him a traitor.
[18:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:20] <exec> 08└─Betraying immoral thugs who conduct mass surveillance on the population
[18:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:22] <exec> 08└─What game? I never referred to their actions as stealing. They are, however, violating people's privacy and ignoring the constitution.
[18:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:23] <exec> 08└─Copying. Also, he didn't betray freedom or the American people. Betraying immoral thugs who conduct mass surveillance on the population and ignore the constitution is perfectly fine.
[18:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:25] <exec> 08└─We The People employ the people in government. Snowden worked directly for government, and indirectly for We The People. There was no betrayal on Snowden's part. The man stayed true to his real employers - you and me.
[18:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:27] <exec> 08└─I have never actually seen Snowdens employment papers, but without having ever seen them I'm fairly sure there is something in there that he totally violated by doing what he did even tho he thought he had a good cause. Not that I think it matters but I'm not included in 'we the people' since I'm no...
[18:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:28] <exec> 08└─Yessss . . . and I'm more than certain that government itself is violating the terms of it's own employment. THAT is what Snowden exposed. If you're concerned that people should adhere to their terms of employment, then you should be cheering Snowden.
[18:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:30] <exec> 08└─He did it. He was not supposed to.
[18:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:32] <exec> 08└─... so in conclusion: just bend over and take it in the ass, citizens.
[18:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 1104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:33] <exec> 08└─Traitors? Hmmmm. You might make a case against the two Americans. The third? He's not capable of committing treason against the United States. Let me think. The first? As I've already said, you might make a treason case stick against Snowden. But, I really believe that he was serving a higher cause...
[18:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 1100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:35] <exec> 08└─Assange does seem occupied with bringing attention to himself to feed his ego. An alternative explanation might be that he understands the idea of a cult of personality, and that by giving his abstract beliefs and ideas a face or embodiment, he might actually bring some attention to them in the soun...
[18:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Manna - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 1187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:55] <exec> 08└─Interesting points on that story. My biggest nit with it was the sharp divide between the old and new. The motivation of the new world just did not exist earlier in the story. The earlier story was much more interesting than the later which seemed to be a giant 'wish this could happen'. It would hav...
[18:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:inform? nuke from orbit! - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:26] <exec> 08└─He/She didn't say anything about DDoSing the site. The "action-plan" consisted of using an exploit for the Wordpress version (for cavemen, I like that!) in use and taking it down. No word about DoS.
[18:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Would Rust have avoided this? - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:08] <exec> 08└─No. Why? Has nothing to do with memory safety and is simply just a programming error. Some languages can handle the overflow more gracefully than c can. But there still has to be code that handles the error.
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[19:23:53] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Whoever [4524] 02So called "medical professionals" - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 575 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:54] <exec> 08└─Any medical professional who colluded in the process of deliberately inducing discomfort to individuals, whether you want to call it torture or not, should be struck off. They have violated the most basic tenets of their profession and do not deserve to remain a member of that profession. Any profes...
[19:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ThG [4568] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Like Abraham Lincoln used to say - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:55] <exec> 08└─"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." The same can be said here.
[19:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:hammmmm - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:07] <exec> 08└─and I still catch flack from peers because I haven't played with the Win10 demo (yet). Where do you work, Microsoft? What kind of morons would bash someone for not wasting their time on some stupid Windows demo? In the automotive world (to borrow from your truck engine anecdote), that's like making...
[19:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:hammmmm - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:08] <exec> 08└─Road bike Reviews are the worst.
[19:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Debian rejects game due to authors opinion on wome - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:11] <exec> 08└─Debian rejects game due to authors opinion on women. A properly licensed opensource casino video game was recently posted to the debian bug tracker as a request for packaging, as is the standard method for pursuing such things in debian. The bug was quickly closed, tagged as "won't fix" The reason g...
[19:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2, Disagree) 02cheating - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:12] <exec> 08└─You pay for your free software with emotional buy-in, with a relationship. Then "your" project cheats on you with another license, or a 3some with some creepy MBA. People hate cheaters. Its really that simple...
[19:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:3, Interesting) 02true for all left wing things... - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 1961 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:14] <exec> 08└─This reminds me of a quote by a senator from "The Gladiator"... "I am for the people, but not of the people." The problem that many leftist wing, that is, not-hardcore-for-profit but more also-for-common-good, organisations seem to have, is the incapability of dealing with sociopaths. I attribute th...
[19:24:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:These three are not the same. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 1099 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:24] <exec> 08└─"Maybe Runaway should be condemning all the other people who were happy to let malfeasance continue unchallenged" Maybe you should get to know Runaway better. Runaway despises all the damned fools in Washington who insist that it is necessary to spy on America's citizens, as well as the world's citi...
[19:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:These three are not the same. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:27] <exec> 08└─Bob Dole approves this message.
[19:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:42] <exec> 08└─Doesn't matter. He didn't steal anything.
[19:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:43] <exec> 08└─You are seriously arguing here that you can't steal digitally stored information?
[19:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:48] <exec> 08└─Leaking documents to the public has about as much relationship to spying as copyright infringement does to theft
[19:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 1170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:50] <exec> 08└─All humans need something to make them do something... to keep them going. It could be money, admiration, loyalty to one's race,... and so on. What was important to those three, and what got them to act is unimportant. Everyone has to have their reasons, and the only reason anyone (the corrupt gover...
[19:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:51] <exec> 08└─> they all royal fucked up their lives for some misguided belief in what they though was good and right. > The world didn't become a better place in any regard due to their actions. Leaving aside the question of whether that is true or not, your criticism is a recipe for failure. If actually achievi...
[19:25:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] 02major problem - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 1835 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:22] <exec> 08└─The major problem I see is that the individuals whose lives are affected by these impersonal algorithmic processes usually have no recourse when an error, false positive, or similar thing happens. Individuals don't even usually know what data is being collected on them by shadowy companies that coll...
[19:29:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] 02Re:alternative? - 06Alternative Fuel Vehicle (AFV) Sales Up 28.8% in Europe. Electric Vehicles Up 117.9% - 1351 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:29:35] <exec> 08└─There're lots of electric bicycles -- both electric assist models primarily designed for starting and going up hills as well as electric mopeds that are as much at home in all-electric mode as in hybrid mode. And, for that matter, electric motorcycles are some of the fastest ones out there...the lan...
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[20:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:So called "medical professionals" - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:23:58] <exec> 08└─But these are psychologists, PhDs, not MDs, those are psychiatrists and they are bound by professional ethics to operate in the best interests of their patient, which kind of rules out torture. And it was basically two guys looking for defense contracts, hella lot more money than teaching Intro Psyc...
[20:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So called "medical professionals" - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:23:59] <exec> 08└─Mod this AC up. Psychologists have been at the bottom of intellectual totem pole, but they apparently managed to sink even lower.
[20:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Like Abraham Lincoln used to say - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:01] <exec> 08└─Only one loud-mouth was actually willing to try it himself. [thinkprogress.org] He changed his mind almost immediately.
[20:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Uphold the constitution - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 1237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:03] <exec> 08└─They are breaking this amendment https://www.law.cornell.edu [cornell.edu] and this one https://www.law.cornell.edu [cornell.edu] And the interpretations https://www.law.cornell.edu [cornell.edu...
[20:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it gets ugly - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:12] <exec> 08└─I remember back to the mid 90s and people saying emulation was impossible.
[20:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:hammmmm - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:18] <exec> 08└─What kind of morons would bash someone for not wasting their time on some stupid Windows demo? In the automotive world (to borrow from your truck engine anecdote), that's like making fun of someone for not buying a Pontiac Aztek.
[20:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03joekiser [1837] (Score:2) 02Re:hammmmm - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:20] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, there are packs of Windows die-hards at every sysadmin job I've had. When I say "packs," I mean groupthink mentality Microsoft know-it-alls looking for people to bash, like the unsuspecting customer who made the mistake of bringing their MacBook to work. The last time one of these die...
[20:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Anti-systemd people" - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 10367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:25] <exec> 08└─etbe.coker.com.au/2015/04/26/anti-systemd-people/ Anti-Systemd People For the Technical People This post isn\u2019t really about technology, I\u2019ll cover the technology briefly skip to the next section if you aren\u2019t interested in Linux programming or system administration. I\u2019ve been usi...
[20:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Should sexist opensource developers have their pro - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 2585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:27] <exec> 08└─Should sexist opensource developers have their projects censored or removed? Recently an opensource game release story was removed due to the game developer's open sexism(0) and harrasment(1) of women in tech. A story posted by the editor of the popular Phoronix linux news site about a release of an...
[20:24:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02These three are not the same. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 421 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:34] <exec> 08└─1. Snowden. An American who gave up a modestly lucrative career to expose crimes being committed by our government. 2. Assange. A journalist who published information that was sent to him. 9*1012 Manning. An immature turd who stole information to get back at the people who made fun of him. Perhaps t...
[20:25:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:03] <exec> 08└─You're the only traitor I see around here.
[20:25:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:04] <exec> 08└─You can't even write anything these days that questions saint Snowden before all his true believers come of woodwork, rushing to his defense. But it's quite pathetic that everything that disagrees with or tarnishes the image of Snowden as a glorified hero gets moderated as being flamebait- and troll...
[20:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:major problem - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:38] <exec> 08└─Here in Blighty, about 150 sub-postmasters were accused of fraud because of a new, buggy computer system they were forced to use. Some went to prison because and some had to remortgage their houses to pay back money that they were accused of stealing. Of course the software couldn't have been wrong,...
[20:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I spent six months in the San Luis Obispo Count - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:06] <exec> 08└─Why don't you go kill him? The only freedom you have is to kill your enemies.
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[21:23:53] <exec> 08└─The Third Reich did this too... Thought experiment. You are a German living in 1930s Germany. When do you leave and why?
[21:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:So called "medical professionals" - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:03] <exec> 08└─It sounds like that does not apply in this case either since they were not actually their patients. What you are suggesting is deregistering someone for advising on how one might proceed in a procedure they will not be involved in on people who they will have nothing to do with. Morally reprehensibl...
[21:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:So called "medical professionals" - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:04] <exec> 08└─can we please allow moderation to >5 - like Ars?
[21:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hello Godwin - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:09] <exec> 08└─The Third Reich did this too... Thought experiment. You are a German living in 1930s Germany. When do you leave and why?
[21:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hello Godwin - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:11] <exec> 08└─Better thought experiment: You are an American living in 21st century America. You can't afford to leave, and even if you could, you have nowhere else to go. What to do?
[21:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02what-about-the-Hippocratic-oath? - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:12] <exec> 08└─Psychologists are not medical doctors. They are frauds who wish they were doctors. It's an psychological condition called "being a psychologist." Sometimes they even hope that if they wish really, really hard that they can convince actual psychiatrists to prescribe drugs, because psychologists can'...
[21:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03http [1920] (Score:2) 02Re:Debian rejects game due to authors opinion on w - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:30] <exec> 08└─No, but a long history of being a regressive asshole with no intent of reforming makes it easy (and rational) for others to decide that working with you ain't gonna be worth the hassle. Anti-feminist remarks only touches the surface of the, um, full exent of the alleged coder's conduct. Plus, the co...
[21:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:1) 02OpenOffice vs LibreOffice - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:35] <exec> 08└─The only reason I chose to use LibreOffice at the time it forked, was that OpenOffice is under control of Oracle.
[21:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Comfort zone? - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 740 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:37] <exec> 08└─> step outside your comfort zone with your choices of free software? If so, how, and how often? Every time I use free software I'm steeping out of my comfort zone. Piracy would be so much easier, but I still try. Few projects come close to proprietary equivalent. I have found OpenOffice/LibreOffice...
[21:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:17] <exec> 08└─What have YOU done that Snowden couldn't, didn't? People like you are muddying the waters, to make sure the real issue never comes to light and never gets discussed, and people fight over unimportant details. Manning was angry with the military about his own personal "gender" issues so he wanted ve...
[21:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Fourth chair - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:18] <exec> 08└─So has anyone yet used the opportunity to use the fourth chair?
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[21:25:45] <exec> 08└─You fail to take into account high unemployment (e.g. 25% in Spain). As you have to work to get money to live, you are forced to accept any job, and if you do it too badly, you will be fired and replaced by a more desperated unemployed person. For this very reason, even though most people hate micro...
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[22:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Half true - 06Patent Trolls Aren't The Problem - Broad, Vague Patents Are - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:23:53] <exec> 08└─As long as there is not a disincentive to file shit lawsuits, it will be the jerk with the most gall (and money) that will prevail. Luckily, Congress Expected to Pass Anti-Patent Troll Legislation This Session [rollcall.com] Now that Harry Reid is on the way out, this thing--which has bipartisan sup...
[22:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02make patents shorter and expensive to get - 06Patent Trolls Aren't The Problem - Broad, Vague Patents Are - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:23:54] <exec> 08└─having exclusive access to a technology for five years is plenty of time to make back your investment and short enough that it won't completely stunt the growth of any particular market. patents are crap to start with but this seems like a fair compromise between the infinity patents they want and d...
[22:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02For fuck's sake - 06Patent Trolls Aren't The Problem - Broad, Vague Patents Are - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:23:56] <exec> 08└─Just do away with this ridiculous and greedy system of bullshit already, would you? The solution is dead simple: kill it.
[22:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Simple solution - 06Patent Trolls Aren't The Problem - Broad, Vague Patents Are - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:23:57] <exec> 08└─There has always been a simple solution to both the problem of single companies amassing large patent portfolios to stifle competition and patent trolls: require a product to be being actively sold by the patent holder for the patent to be valid. So many of these patents are preemptive: individuals...
[22:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Hello Godwin - 06Google Password Alert could be Foiled with Just 7 Lines of JavaScript - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:06] <exec> 08└─Woah there, the Nazis may have been committing war crimes and genocide but they never did something as attrocious as writing JavaScript malware.
[22:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Hello Godwin - 06Google Password Alert could be Foiled with Just 7 Lines of JavaScript - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:07] <exec> 08└─Woah there, the Nazis may have been committing war crimes and genocide but they never did something as attrocious as writing JavaScript.
[22:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:So called "medical professionals" - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:18] <exec> 08└─It sounds like that does not apply in this case either since they were not actually their patients.
[22:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02...and Psychology != Science - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:20] <exec> 08└─They recently did a study, repeating 100 psychological tests. Psychology: Only 39 Percent Reproducibility [nature.com] -- gewg_
[22:24:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ThG [4568] 02Like Abraham Lincoln used to say - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 131 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:22] <exec> 08└─"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." The same can be said here.
[22:24:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Like Abraham Lincoln used to say - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 119 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:23] <exec> 08└─Only one loud-mouth was actually willing to try it himself. [thinkprogress.org] He changed his mind almost immediately.
[22:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Are expatriates happier? - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:26] <exec> 08└─you have nowhere else to go A writer whose work I like disagrees. [google.com] Not a panacea, but better. You can't afford to leave Now, there's a lot of truth in that. She's a physician. -- gewg_
[22:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are expatriates happier? - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:28] <exec> 08└─"There's a place you can go, and all you need to get there is lots of money!" You're an asshole, gewg.
[22:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what-about-the-Hippocratic-oath? - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:30] <exec> 08└─Psychologists have a lot more training in psychology than psychiatrists do. A PhD psychologist has 8-10 years of psychology classes. A psychiatrist is someone who went to med school and took a handful of psych classes. Who's the fraud? Many psychiatrists just want to shove drugs into their patients,...
[22:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what-about-the-Hippocratic-oath? - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:31] <exec> 08└─It must take a lot of training to fail med school, settle for psychology, and try to get revenge by sending clients to psychiatrist after psychiatrist in a vain attempt to get prescription drugs prescribed.
[22:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02Re:true for all left wing things... - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 876 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:52] <exec> 08└─It seems, one of the worst things you can do, is to get fascinated with you natural enemy, when it comes types within human nature. My natural enemy seems to be the type of human who really believes and wants to believe. When this type of human gets denigrated, or something it values gets denigrated...
[22:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03toygeek [28] (Score:2) 02Re:inform? nuke from orbit! - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:39] <exec> 08└─Yup. You're right. This is what I get for posting before reading 3x. Thanks for the correction.
[22:26:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Contact us - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:44] <exec> 08└─If the objective is to punish them, yes. If the objective is to help them, no. If the material is truly offensive or likely to be found by kids, that might be the next step to get it taken down, but really I don't think that site would be all that attractive to kids.
[22:26:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:I did, but they didn't respond. - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:46] <exec> 08└─That's it then. If they don't care about their own web page, why should you?
[22:28:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Setup a robotic recycling satellite - 06Space Debris: What Can We Do With Unwanted Satellites ? - 855 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:28:58] <exec> 08└─Yes, but we better use the term Orbital Quick Sand, because there are a lot of touchy people [wikipedia.org] out there. The problem here is the only orbit that will bring you close enough to gather bits of space junk is the exact opposite orbit of said junk, which makes the closing speed horrific. Y...
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[23:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Half true - 06Patent Trolls Aren't The Problem - Broad, Vague Patents Are - 793 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:54] <exec> 08└─There's always people who would want to game the system, no matter what it is. There's no way to come up with a completely perfect system. Best is to start with something and refine it as we see problems. Even when you get to a state where its near optimum, time changes things and you'll have to rev...
[23:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Disagree) 02Re:For fuck's sake - 06Patent Trolls Aren't The Problem - Broad, Vague Patents Are - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:57] <exec> 08└─By killing it you had power over to companies like Sony or Samsung who have technical know-how plus manufacturing capabilities. The little guy invents a device and six months later a cheaper clone of it comes along and is sold at a loss until the originator goes caput. No, you don't actually want th...
[23:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:For fuck's sake - 06Patent Trolls Aren't The Problem - Broad, Vague Patents Are - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:58] <exec> 08└─That's what's happening already. The little guy really can't afford to fight them in court anyway.
[23:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:For fuck's sake - 06Patent Trolls Aren't The Problem - Broad, Vague Patents Are - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:00] <exec> 08└─Very funny, you can pull your tongue out of your cheek now. Either that or show me the army of "little guys" everyone keeps referring to - because I have not seen them anywhere in any of this.
[23:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Hello Godwin - 06Google Password Alert could be Foiled with Just 7 Lines of JavaScript - 882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:12] <exec> 08└─I used to really hate JavaScript. Due to ending up spending too much time chasing down problems that ended up being client-side problems caused by badly written JavaScript, I've been spending time writing JavaScript, and it does have a lot of really good features. The bad stuff is mostly inconsisten...
[23:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03nightsky30 [1818] (Score:2) 02Re:Hello Godwin - 06Google Password Alert could be Foiled with Just 7 Lines of JavaScript - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:13] <exec> 08└─Ah, no need for redundancy. Nice!
[23:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:So called "medical professionals" - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:25] <exec> 08└─So what is the difference between them or any other run of the mill sociopath working with the CIA?? Chosen profession? Is that it? It most certainly is not hypocrisy...
[23:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So called "medical professionals" - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:27] <exec> 08└─Are psychologists not governed by a code of ethics?
[23:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So called "medical professionals" - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:29] <exec> 08└─Are psychologists not governed by a code of ethics?
[23:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Like Abraham Lincoln used to say - 06Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:32] <exec> 08└─"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." The same can be said here.
[23:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Katastic [3340] (Score:1) 02Re:it gets ugly - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:49] <exec> 08└─>But a belittling sort of dick for tiny mistakes. 'how dare you use xyz instead of abc you should never fucking code again and should kill yourself for even thinking of doing it the wrong way'. Are you my boss?
[23:24:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RamiK [1813] 02This isn't sports. - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 480 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:52] <exec> 08└─This isn't some fabricated divide with camps waving flags and cheering for their hometown solely for the sake of an entertaining competition event. There are major conflict of interests stemming from corporate contributors pushing for their company's interests over other (often also corporate) contr...
[23:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:hammmmm - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:59] <exec> 08└─I was visiting my previous boss, in a Windows beige box shop, a couple of weeks ago. He knows I prefer Linux to Windows, so after a few minutes he said that nobody should be using Linux any more because the NSA has infiltrated their codebase with all sorts of nasty code. This, of course, would never...
[23:25:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:true for all left wing things... - 06When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:07] <exec> 08└─...and you believe this, yourself? (Yes, I just called you an idiot.)
[23:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:42] <exec> 08└─I happen to have the radical belief that people are not subhuman and less deserving of having their liberties respect simply because they were 'unfortunate' enough to be born in a different country.
[23:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:43] <exec> 08└─I am in a different country, and I am very concerned about it. My government is currently allowing the US to wipe its arse with our people our intelligence services, all in the name of getting a better deal from the US.
[23:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:44] <exec> 08└─He betrayed his employer, the NSA and the US government. You can spin that anyway you want. You might not like what the government does. But that doesn't mean what he did was right.
[23:25:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Trio of traitors gets statue. - 06Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:55] <exec> 08└─This is about the trio getting a statue in Berlin. Germany. Unless I'm mistaken and its Berlin in the middle of the fucking North American mid west or some sorts, crying "traitors!!" is kinda moot as no-one else outside of the U.S. (political shills being butt-fucked by the U.S. does not count) cons...
[23:26:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:What would happen ... - 06More Trouble at ICANN - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:26:06] <exec> 08└─BTW, if using the advanced search feature in saleforce requires users to "provide an explanation of their activity" then you're doing something (or perhaps everything) wrong. And 19 users caused 330 instances where confidential information was viewed of "about 96 gTLD applicants"? That math doesn't...
[23:26:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Manna - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:26:23] <exec> 08└─Is a "money hoarder" supposed to be a rich person? Is there supposed to be a problem with whatever that means?
[23:26:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Manna - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:26:25] <exec> 08└─You fail to take into account high unemployment (e.g. 25% in Spain).
[23:26:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02creates greater excess - 06The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:34] <exec> 08└─Laws get piled on top of laws. If one transitions to a computer-based law system, then what's the limits to what complexity can build up - especially if the regulators are selectively allowed to break the law in order to regulate? Even consistency can become extremely hard to implement.
[23:26:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02OT: Google Maps - 06Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:26:53] <exec> 08└─Am I blind, or is there now no way to actually PRINT off a Google Map? (Aside from CTRL-P) Used to be you could preview and tweak the output before printing - it was a good thing. Of course Google now always clutters up every map with boxes full of stuff that I don't need, and which just block off p...
[23:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03nightsky30 [1818] (Score:2) 02Re:Its a software bug. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:27:55] <exec> 08└─I hope the new code doesn't introduce a different bug. How many days will it take to find that one?
[23:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03nightsky30 [1818] (Score:2) 02Re:Coffee Ducks FTW! - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:28:03] <exec> 08└─I'm intrigued! How are these coffee ducks powered? What's the catch? There's no DRM preventing third party ducks is there?
[23:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't drink. - 06787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:28:04] <exec> 08└─How many times do I have to repeat myself...Buzz Beer is not coffee!
[23:28:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:difference - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:28:31] <exec> 08└─Yes, extremephobes like the whale people in the movie Wall-e.
[23:28:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes what an argument - 06Bacteria Might be Found on Mars - Similar Conditions Exist in Antarctica - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:28:35] <exec> 08└─Damn! He needs some burn cream for his Mars! Not Uranus.
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