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[00:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:27:19] <exec> 08└─I did not see that part...you are not serious?? In the past they have taken a 30% cut... Are you sure you don't have it back to front? If they ARE taking that it is surely because half of it goes to them, half to the game companies....
[00:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:27:20] <exec> 08└─Yeah, this should have pretty much been put through their whole green-light system or something; so if a dev wants to make his mod paid, he submits it as a new game title ("fan made DLC") and its goes through review and approval for publishing (for some threshold of quality, functionality, and lack...
[00:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Steam Bucks, similar to Feces Dollars - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:27:25] <exec> 08└─Your up to date "leet" lingo proves you know what your are talking about.
[00:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Why the corrective optics? - 06Hubble Space Telescope—25 Years Old Today - 1115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:37] <exec> 08└─The most common way to test a telescope mirror is the Foucault Test, in which a pinhole or slit with a lamp behind it illuminates the mirror. The refocused beam is a little bit to one side as the pinhole is moved a little bit to the other side. At the focus the image of the pinhole is partially inte...
[00:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:27:53] <exec> 08└─One can only tolerate so much transparent, partisan, and thinly-veiled racist bullshit and remain polite about it. After about the 100th time, there's no reason to not be a dick to hateful bigots spreading lies.
[00:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But homeopath is now starting to cost big money - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:28:03] <exec> 08└─It's a homeopathic pizza roll.
[00:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But homeopath is now starting to cost big money - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:28:05] <exec> 08└─That has been true since before P.T. Barnham.
[00:29:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:The techno-geek Apocalypse - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 2183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:00] <exec> 08└─Great. So you're proposing we throw an as-yet-nonexistant number of chips into a giant Beowulf cluster just to reach the number of transistors as a brain has neurons. What software are you going to run on this magical hardware? As impractical as the hardware is, it's the least of our worries when it...
[00:29:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:The techno-geek Apocalypse - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:01] <exec> 08└─What software are you going to run on this magical hardware?
[00:29:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:20] <exec> 08└─Absolutely true, but to stress my point about digital music files in particular: there is NO WAY a popular musician won't be able to convince her fans to pay for files through her website and/or official retailer. Even I would do it.
[00:29:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:23] <exec> 08└─With scientific research, its beneficial to everyone no matter what the result, and it almost always provides clues for what further research should tackle.
[00:29:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:24] <exec> 08└─The whole notion of copyright is to take something infinitely replicable and create an artificial scarcity. For anyone who understands how real things work, this economic model is utterly moronic.
[00:29:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:26] <exec> 08└─To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
[00:29:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:28] <exec> 08└─Authors and inventors have no incentive to make their work scarce.
[00:29:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:32] <exec> 08└─A choir chat accepts donations has to do with money as well, but you probably don't want your laws to apply to them.
[00:30:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I want a monopoly for personal gain - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:01] <exec> 08└─You must be new here.
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[01:27:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Different? - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:02] <exec> 08└─And why wouldn't any malware installed on the voting machines change the paper trail as well? It seems incredibly unlikely that any fraud that could of occurred would not have changed both records simultaneously.
[01:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:Different? - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:27:03] <exec> 08└─Depends on at what stage alleged fraud would have taken place.
[01:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Informative) 02Dictatorship - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:06] <exec> 08└─If US elections are being tampered with in a way that makes a real difference. Then the state is in effect a dictatorship.
[01:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Dictatorship - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:27:07] <exec> 08└─Not really. Nor is it a fascist state, police state or any of the other things that get thrown about. It might be *int the future* but not now. It is a captured democracy in that there is a democratic process but this has been subverted so that there is very little difference in overall policy in re...
[01:27:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:09] <exec> 08└─These cases only reinforce the argument that all e-voting machines should use open-source operating systems and that the source code of both the OS and the voting software ought to be easily downloadable for inspection and analysis. When every facet of an election is not completely open and transpar...
[01:27:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] (Score:2) 02Re:Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:27:11] <exec> 08└─Something similar to the bitcoin blockchain may work, where everyone gets a private key and signs a public transaction record. The only concern I might have in that case would be anonymity, although I think it could be designed in a way that votes could be traced back to people. Of course the proble...
[01:27:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Interesting) 02Virginia's machines suck too - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:12] <exec> 08└─Earlier this week, the voting machines that many places in Virginia have been using for years and years were finally decertified after it was shown that the WEP password was hard-coded and the machine had no firewall. [schneier.com] ...and the OS it was running was MICROS~1's (XP, no less). [xkcd.co...
[01:27:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Dear Hubble/NASA/ESA - 06Hubble Space Telescope—25 Years Old Today - 7 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:34] <exec> 08└─Thanks.
[01:29:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:29:21] <exec> 08└─Indeed - I completely agree. I just realized that I must have skipped over your second-to-last sentence before I hit the reply button because you already stated everything I did in my post. My apologies...
[01:29:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:29:28] <exec> 08└─to create the artificial scarcity the GP was talking about.
[01:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:the much anticipated ? - controlling apps - 06Jolla Tablet Ship Date Slips - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:35] <exec> 08└─If Jolla is for privacy they will: * Allow other operating systems to use the same hardware (f*ck signed boot) * Allow users to load apps as they see fit * Provide fine grained control of app privileges * Provide the source code to enable audit and modification * Not add any phone-hom...
[01:32:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:DSM-6 to use Brain Maps? - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:32:37] <exec> 08└─It can map what medicines that are based on actual needs and the ones based on someone elses profit.
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[02:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Yawn. - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:05] <exec> 08└─So far I doubt the actual utility of "smart" watches, and every one that I've seen has been big and ugly. But then again, I would have probably laughed at the Wright brothers too.
[02:27:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mendax [2840] 02Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 527 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:17] <exec> 08└─These cases only reinforce the argument that all e-voting machines should use open-source operating systems and that the source code of both the OS and the voting software ought to be easily downloadable for inspection and analysis. When every facet of an election is not completely open and transpar...
[02:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:27:19] <exec> 08└─Actually, it's a very very strong argument that a computer is the wrong tool for handling this kind of record-keeping. What actually works, and works really well, is a piece of paper with names on it that the voter marks and places in a box. In my home state, after multiple debacles involving the fa...
[02:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:27:21] <exec> 08└─These cases only reinforce the argument that all e-voting machines should use open-source operating systems and that the source code of both the OS and the voting software ought to be easily downloadable for inspection and analysis.
[02:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I am a statsman for the county - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:23] <exec> 08└─And I ride the main track Searchin' in the sun for another hack I see corruption on the wire, The state officials must resign, And the Wichita statsman is still on the line - after Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb
[02:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Placebo Effect - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:28:19] <exec> 08└─Is it still the Placebo Effect if it's the caregiver is the one that has convinced themselves the drug is useful?
[02:29:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong point of view - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:29:05] <exec> 08└─That is very convincing. If true, there is no point in musing what an AI would do.
[02:29:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02There's a reason it's called the singularity - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 361 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:29:12] <exec> 08└─Much like an event horizon, we have no meaningful tools to predict what happens beyond it. The notion of a nation-state or any other collection of humans "controlling" the singularity is absurd on its face. Once it starts, humans are effectively out of the loop. No reason to read anything written by...
[02:30:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Chicken and the Egg - 06Arduino vs Arduino - 344 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:30:29] <exec> 08└─I have to take issue with this summation in the editorial: Finally, a great lesson can be learned from these recent events. If your team comes up with a great idea, product or service – before you get serious spend the time and resources required to formalise ownership of intellectual property, na...
[02:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Thanks for the informative summary, guys. - 06Arduino vs Arduino - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:30:39] <exec> 08└─"Something is happening with Arduino. Here's the link." You couldn't have spent even one sentence even vaguely pointing at what's going on other than "hardware"?
[02:30:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:the much anticipated ? - 06Jolla Tablet Ship Date Slips - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:30:52] <exec> 08└─I would hazard a guess it's anticipated by more than 20,000 people who stumped up over 2.5 million USD in funding
[02:31:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What Does it Actually Mean ? - 06US Drone Killed Hostages From U.S. and Italy - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:31:17] <exec> 08└─"explain that to the prosecutor suing you for (for instance) accidentally hitting and killing someone in a car accident." Or what about the get away driver being accused of, essentially, murder, for helping the robber rob the store even though he didn't mean for the robber to shoot the cashier.
[02:32:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not that they don't want you to fix it - 06In Defence of the Concept of Ownership - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:32:53] <exec> 08└─Stop complaining, you really don't want to F with the software in a Deere, it's not worth your time.
[02:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My money is on more leeches - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:33:26] <exec> 08└─It sounds like you are intentionally, or entirely not aware, of the question you are seeking answers to. When presented with help, you go on the attack and change focus to something else. If you carefully defined your question, perhaps you will find an answer.
[02:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My money is on more leeches - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:33:29] <exec> 08└─A little extra worth looking into is the idea that you can't ever understand the language someone communicates until you know the matrix of assumed knowledge necessary on the part of the communicator in using that language. Part of the fun in philosophy is that it reads like really drawn out code. F...
[02:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Suspicious - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:33:40] <exec> 08└─Scroll to the section entitled cognitive abilities http://en.m.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[03:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Yawn. - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:27:03] <exec> 08└─The watch will be successful only if it offers benefits to the wearer. From my personal POV, there are none. Perhaps if you receive tons of messages, that watch would be handy. Other than that, I don't know what it is good for - except as bling, of course. For most people it's just one more gadget t...
[03:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:2) 02Re:Yawn. - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:27:05] <exec> 08└─The watch will be successful only if it offers benefits to the wearer. From my personal POV, there are none.
[03:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Eh? - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:07] <exec> 08└─Nothing from modern Apple is a useful piece of technology.
[03:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Different? - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:27:17] <exec> 08└─It seems incredibly unlikely that any fraud that could of occurred
[03:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Paradise Pete [1806] (Score:2) 02Re:I am a statsman for the county - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:27:26] <exec> 08└─1. Your cadence seems a bit off. 2. You are old.
[03:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02The whole point. - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:28] <exec> 08└─Why would the election officials ever choose use paper ballots? The whole point of using computers is to perform voting fraud. At least, given their reputation for security, I can't imagine any other purpose.
[03:27:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Steam Bucks, similar to Feces Dollars - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:27:43] <exec> 08└─What's a ""leet""?
[03:28:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:28:12] <exec> 08└─I can and have said the same thing about ikanreed. Bonus: it seems that the entirely veiled mod wars are heating up. Content, cognition, logic, sources, or just plain human decency be damned. In the lead as usual is ikanreed followed by The Mighty Buzzard with jmorris approaching fast. Out of the to...
[03:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:28:14] <exec> 08└─But wait! Did you not see that the whole kerfuffle has resulted in Eth posting a polite intervention with no racism or profanity!!! Makes it all worth it. And if it can help jmorris stop being such a partisan bigot, that would be nice as well.
[03:28:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:28:16] <exec> 08└─Because, as the multi-billion dollar pharmaceutic industry demonstrates, the market sucks at efficiently doing anything that requires complex domain knowledge, except parting fools and their money. TFTFY
[03:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:28:19] <exec> 08└─There has actually been quite a bit of research on the most effective placebo. See here for a nice video summary: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] or here if you can't be bothered with a 1m introduction: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] If yo...
[03:28:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Paradise Pete [1806] (Score:1) 02Re:It's all in your viewpoint - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:28:43] <exec> 08└─I seem to remember a study that showed that ignorance is directly proportional to bliss.
[03:29:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:29:56] <exec> 08└─Value != price. He's referring to people who make the content available for others that has no price. And I disagree with him. Copyright simply should not exist in any form.
[03:30:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Melancholy Elephant - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:30:20] <exec> 08└─Thank you so very much for that link! I found the story itself to be quite thought-provoking and am downloading the MP3 even as I right this. I concur with your assessment that this should be mandatory reading prior to any vote being taken on altering copyright. This one comment has made worthwhile...
[03:31:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Not based on Ubuntu - 06Jolla Tablet Ship Date Slips - 747 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:03] <exec> 08└─"Since Sailfish is based on Ubuntu and Mer, it is Linux, and as such you can install Linux applications. Because of this, it may provide some competition to the big players in the mobile field." Sorry, but Sailfish is NOT based on Ubuntu. It was, at one point, based on Mer, but that is NOT the same...
[03:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02I sound like a broken record, but... - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 1033 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:33:15] <exec> 08└─With depression, ALWAYS check thyroid function first. Marginal or low thyroid is probably the single most significant cause of depression, yet the least considered. It causes poor glucose transport which means your brain doesn't get enough energy and consequently just doesn't work right. Incidentall...
[03:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My money is on more leeches - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:33:19] <exec> 08└─Who's saying to discard science altogether? A computer is merely a machine, but if Microsoft Exchange isn't running properly it's usually not helpful to fix it by looking at the problem from a Computer Engineering point of view or even an Electronic Engineering or pure Math point of view. I doubt wi...
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[04:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Yawn. - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:07] <exec> 08└─Nor is there benefit to most of us in spending thousands on Rolex, Patek Phillipe or Omega watches, but that hasn't stopped those companies being successful.
[04:27:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Yawn. - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:08] <exec> 08└─The watch will be successful only if it offers benefits to the wearer. From my personal POV, there are none. Perhaps if you receive tons of messages, that watch would be handy. Other than that, I don't know what it is good for...
[04:27:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Yawn. - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:09] <exec> 08└─I forgot to mention that the stopwatch app I have for my Pebble Watch is far superior to anything I've ever owned before and I expect the Apple Watch to be even better than that since it has a touch screen and possibly even access to Siri. (I had an iPod Touch I wore as a watch for quite a while and...
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[04:27:11] <exec> 08└─Thanks for your insight! As I suspected, the watch might be useful to high volume information consumers - and you seem to be in that end of spectrum. I, personally, don't receive SMS, as they - and the data - are blocked at AT&T level per my request - so the utility of the watch to me is minimal. It...
[04:27:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Yawn. - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:13] <exec> 08└─...what I'm unsure of is how much the middle ground will want such a watch - people who take and place three to five calls per day to their wife and kids.
[04:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:15] <exec> 08└─Nothing from modern Apple is a useful piece of technology.
[04:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:16] <exec> 08└─Snort.
[04:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:18] <exec> 08└─Nah, they're just as useless as the trinkets they imitate.
[04:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:3, Funny) 02Terrorists - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:20] <exec> 08└─> Unless you've been hiding in a cave in Afghanistan you know about the Apple Watch. So either you care about the Apple watch, or you are a terrorist on the order of Osama Bin Laden?
[04:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrorists - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:23] <exec> 08└─So either you care about the Apple watch, or you are a terrorist on the order of Osama Bin Laden?
[04:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:1) 02Re:Terrorists - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:24] <exec> 08└─Even worse!
[04:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrorists - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:26] <exec> 08└─... well I suppose. It does mean your joke makes no sense.
[04:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02Re:Different? - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:33] <exec> 08└─It means fraud occurred in the poster's high school.
[04:27:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] 02Re:Dictatorship - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 655 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:35] <exec> 08└─Not really. Nor is it a fascist state, police state or any of the other things that get thrown about. It might be *int the future* but not now. It is a captured democracy in that there is a democratic process but this has been subverted so that there is very little difference in overall policy in re...
[04:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:1) 02Re:Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:38] <exec> 08└─You could require all keys to be signed by whatever beaurocracy runs elections, and keys are only signed for a limited time on election day. Of course, this is all fantasy, many people have a sort of reflexive distrust of any kind of technology, even the kind that is mathematically guaranteed to be...
[04:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:41] <exec> 08└─May not be so good at fulfilling one of the requirements of a voting/election system. https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] You missed out one major requirement of any voting system (and elections). 0) Convincing enough of the losers that they have lost. If a vot...
[04:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:The whole point. - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:46] <exec> 08└─You can't imagine any other po$$ibility for why $omeone might want to automate a ta$k?
[04:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:1) 02Why is this an issue? - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:28:04] <exec> 08└─I don't know why people are so upset about this. It's just steam letting modders -- some of which have sunk countless hours into their projects and even hired voice actors -- charge for their mods. There's very little difference between that and letting people charge for a small game. And yet people...
[04:28:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:28:34] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I was a dick about it. You're right. I don't want to apologize because I feel it was deserved, but my feelings aren't the only ones that count. Sorry.
[04:28:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:28:40] <exec> 08└─+1
[04:29:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong point of view - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:29:35] <exec> 08└─If true, there is no point in musing what an AI would do.
[04:29:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:The techno-geek Apocalypse - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:29:52] <exec> 08└─My buzzphrase-o-meter melted from overload midway through the second paragraph. The resulting conflagration took out my bullshit meter with it -- which was a good thing since it at least shut up the infernal racket the thing was making. I mean, have you any clue how often marketing departments compa...
[04:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:My money is on more leeches - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:33:52] <exec> 08└─I'll go with entirely not aware, since I've found that assuming I am ignorant of things is more likely to be right than not. Since I'm not sure, what question am I seeking answers to, or what question should I be seeking answers to?
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[05:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Mmmmkay - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:02] <exec> 08└─System M isn't a notable "new feature"
[05:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:04] <exec> 08└─What major Linux distros haven't (yet) been conquered? OpenSUSE, Slackware, and Gentoo? Seems OpenSUSE will soon fall. I thought Ubuntu was going to buck the trend, invest their resources in their Upstart alternative.
[05:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03lothmordor [1522] (Score:2) 02Re:Yawn. - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:18] <exec> 08└─Nice to know some people will get good use out of them. Until now, I was a little stumped on what need, exactly, smart watches were trying to fill. It's easy to dismiss the technology as nothing more than bling or status-symbol posturing, but high volume messaging makes sense. In fact, reading your...
[05:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Apple Watch has Landed - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:27] <exec> 08└─Apple Watch has Landed
[05:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Different? - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:39] <exec> 08└─Nope it means that they used the wrong homophone. "could of" is an incorrect spelling of the contraction "could've".
[05:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:45] <exec> 08└─And early voting? Because there shouldn't be just one election day. That is merely a means of oppressing the poor.
[05:27:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 874 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:47] <exec> 08└─Actually, it's a very very strong argument that a computer is the wrong tool for handling this kind of record-keeping. What actually works, and works really well, is a piece of paper with names on it that the voter marks and places in a box. In my home state, after multiple debacles involving the fa...
[05:28:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Steam Bucks, similar to Feces Dollars - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:28:12] <exec> 08└─Yes, because all criticisms of [Insert Scam Artist/Slimy Rich Person Here] are just signs of jealousy. I bet those people protesting Too Big To Fail were just jealous of those successful bankers, too. No one can ever have any legitimate criticisms if someone is rich, because being rich means you're...
[05:28:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:28:52] <exec> 08└─...combine it with a big ass-science machine.
[05:28:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03ah.clem [4241] (Score:2) 02Re:But homeopath is now starting to cost big money - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:28:57] <exec> 08└─Old Joke - You know what they call homeopathic medicine that works? Medicine.
[05:28:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03ah.clem [4241] (Score:2) 02Re:But homeopath is now starting to cost big money - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:29:00] <exec> 08└─Way back in the day, there were men's magazines like "Argosy", "Man's World", "His", etc. that, as a kid, I used to read at the barbershop on Saturday mornings. There were always interesting ads to be found in the back pages. One of my favorites that I remember to this day (along with the $40 surplu...
[05:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Medicine Guessing Game - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 3086 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:33:58] <exec> 08└─> Having tried multiple medications for my issues, it often seems like the doctors are just making educated guesses. > My own experiences with SSRIs was moderately successful in lowering anxiety, but at the same time causing sexual dysfunction. > Wellbutrin made my depression worse, to the point of...
[05:34:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Suspicious - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:34:25] <exec> 08└─I had no idea Pink Floyd meant that literally! :-)
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[06:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:27:17] <exec> 08└─This is now officially shitful. Work is looking at the cost of unix servers with an eye to reduce overheads. They want to switch to linux. Good, right? Well, no. This BS caused by systemd makes linux look unstable. They passed a decision to move to linux as a trial with a full move when/if this is r...
[06:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:27:19] <exec> 08└─Let's all sing the market control song! Control control control / It's the Microsoft way / Control control control / Let's have it all our own way / Control control control / Redhat will show the way / Control control control / They'll have us their own way Fuck you, Poettering. My sound still isn't...
[06:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:27:21] <exec> 08└─OpenSUSE already did fall. From https://en.opensuse.org [opensuse.org] : Systemd is the default and only init system since openSUSE 12.3
[06:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Apparently still spying you... - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:23] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29#Privacy_controversy [wikipedia.org] https://fixubuntu.com [fixubuntu.com]
[06:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrorists - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:27:46] <exec> 08└─Well I'd rather be a terrorist than care about Apple anything :)
[06:28:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pseudonymous Coward [4624] (Score:1) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:28:26] <exec> 08└─I'm sure, see here: https://i.imgur.com [imgur.com] Here for a discussion on reddit: https://www.reddit.com [reddit.com]
[06:28:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:28:28] <exec> 08└─Wait, I don't quite understand your comment. Are you saying that people getting annoyed over stolen comment is "no reason"? It isn't the thieves profiting that really makes me mad, even. They were going to steal content and try to profit off of it one way or another. It is the fact that Valve is all...
[06:28:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Steam Bucks, similar to Feces Dollars - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:28:36] <exec> 08└─Last name: Dover
[06:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:30:59] <exec> 08└─Then you agree with me. I oppose copyright on the grounds of free speech and jurisdiction, among other things. By jurisdiction, I mean this: you can't enforce copyright without a world government. All you have to do is change jurisdictions, copy, and return. Few people know that the reason copyright...
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[07:27:13] <exec> 08└─Sun support should be eclipsed by now, you mean oracle? If you have to choose between oracle and systemd I suggest exploring slackware, small but transparent distros like void... or rolling your own since you'll have to waste amounts of time and money in either way.
[07:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 3338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:27:15] <exec> 08└─Debian, even Jessie (going stable tomorrow) still has other init options than systemd, so you aren't forced into using it if you don't want. If you aren't using it as a desktop system, purging systemd and going back to another init (either the traditional one or some alternative) should have few (if...
[07:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:27:17] <exec> 08└─My antenna was raised about systemd precisely because canonical did not keep pushing his own solution over it. Canonical had always tried to be different than the other distros, even when it meant inconveniencing the user. So when they bent over systemd I thought: what does this thing do that is so...
[07:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrorists - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:27:43] <exec> 08└─How do you feel about fluency in English?
[07:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dictatorship - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:27:59] <exec> 08└─Gotta love this endless hair splitting... and legal wanking around. US is democratic like Russia or North fucking Korea.
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[08:27:20] <exec> 08└─As I understand it, Canonical wanted a sysvinit replacement and created upstart for that purpose years ago (2006 according to wikipedia). Systemd came later (2010) with the same goal, but developed by RedHat employees because redhat loves its NIH. Canonical only decided to abandon upstart because De...
[08:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrorists - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:49] <exec> 08└─I think it's something every American should strive for as a second language :D
[08:30:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:List of A.I. sci-fi? - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:30:03] <exec> 08└─it seems pretty far-fetched that it'll happen any time in the near future
[08:30:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Synonymous Homonym [4857] (Score:1) 02Re:Wrong point of view - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:30:22] <exec> 08└─Superman is an illegal alien, and he rejected his citizenship.
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[09:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Star Wars is Space Opera - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:27:15] <exec> 08└─Stop trying to shoehorn science into the tragic tale of Anakin Skywalker simply because it takes place in space.
[09:30:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:An old joke - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:30:18] <exec> 08└─This "broken window! thisng is more akin to opportunity cost or planned obsolescence?
[09:30:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:An old joke - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:30:19] <exec> 08└─Sorry, my typoing skills show...
[09:33:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03splodus [4877] 02What about the other innocent casualties? - 06US Drone Killed Hostages From U.S. and Italy - 195 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:02] <exec> 08└─I'm not being rhetorical; have there been any apologies for those killed by drones [theguardian.com] that were not European / American? I don't remember anything, but perhaps I've just missed it?
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[10:27:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02No... - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:27:10] <exec> 08└─...because they're fictional. They're just locations. Whereas Earth hosts a wide diversity of biomes, the planets of Star Wars boast far fewer climates and topographies.
[10:27:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Somewhat silly conjecture - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 1771 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:27:11] <exec> 08└─Any place you have ever been, you remember for your own unique, but limited experiences in that place. Take the continental US as one example. Some kid who grows up in Tulsa, and never travels anywhere outside the region, will be used to the idea that the earth is rather dry, and warm, with a mildly...
[10:27:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Somewhat silly conjecture - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:27:13] <exec> 08└─Damn - I was thinking "Phoenix" when I wrote my post, but I typed "Tulsa". Tulsa is cooler and wetter than Phoenix, of course, but the idea stands for any location.
[10:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Differentiate? - 06Amazon's Profits Are Floating on a Cloud - 929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:27:21] <exec> 08└─So how does any one cloud provider differentiate race-to-the-bottom commodity computing? It's just a Linux instance running on commodity hardware. Microsoft, IBM, and the others have little chance of winning since Amazon is able to operate at a loss apparently indefinitely, pricing things below cost...
[10:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:27:38] <exec> 08└─As of last time I looked, the only major holdouts were Slackware and PCLinuxOS (which I migrated to in late December).
[10:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 02Why not? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:27:40] <exec> 08└─Ubuntu is a desktop OS. SystemD is tuned well for desktop OSs. So Why shouldn't Ubuntu use it? There are wrinkles (error logging seems to be one of them?), but every big project has them, and they have to get into production systems to iron them out. Like PulseAudio before it. It was a mess when it...
[10:28:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:28:49] <exec> 08└─It matches what I read over at Ars Technica: http://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com] It gets worse, though...from the Ars article: "Money-making modders will have to wait until they've earned at least $100...
[10:28:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 829 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:28:50] <exec> 08└─Nitpicking, but Valve isn't taking 75% cut: that figure is split between Valve and the original game maker/distributor. The modders still get the 25% tho, and *ONLY* if they raise at least 100$ (or 400$? didn't get that part) At first I thought that this is a good thing, like the next step after the...
[10:28:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:28:52] <exec> 08└─Game makers will want their cut since, let's face it, these modders will be making cash based mostly on their hard work.
[10:29:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why is this an issue? - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:29:04] <exec> 08└─Once upon a time people made music because they enjoyed it or a patron paid them to make it. Look at what it became and see the future of mods.
[10:29:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A perfect digital hostage - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:29:06] <exec> 08└─Someone with a more evil slant could make a mod that makes it easier for other modders to do their work. Something along the lines of SKSE (a script extender). Publish it for free, make it easy for other people to adopt. Then after a time start charging real money for it. Suddenly everyone will have...
[10:29:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03CaTfiSh [5221] (Score:1) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:29:41] <exec> 08└─Somehow I don't think that impresses my elderly cat, but yet a homeopathic preparation seems to reliably cure her urinary tract infections.
[10:31:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] 02Re:Odd - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 500 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:31:57] <exec> 08└─The science fiction authors have most likely read Spider Robinson's "Melancholy Elephants [spiderrobinson.com]" (Audio version, MP3 format [libsyn.com] if you don't want to get caught reading fiction at work). It makes wonderful points about the difficulties that accompany the path of infinite exten...
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[11:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No... - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:27:23] <exec> 08└─tl;dr It's just a movie people, it's not real. It's entertaining, but it's just.a.movie.
[11:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Somewhat silly conjecture - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:27:26] <exec> 08└─Sure, he knows academically that much of the world is cooler and wetter than his home, but he hasn't experienced it.
[11:27:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Coruscant - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:28] <exec> 08└─Not to mention the entire planet that's a big city. No plants? At all? No water? Not likely.
[11:27:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Interesting) 02In my whole life I've only read one scifi story... - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:30] <exec> 08└─... where the climate was significantly different at different parts of the planet. For a science fiction character to travel to a distant planet is like a human of today to fly on an airplane to a vacation destination. You wouldn't expect on part of Paris, say, to be desert, another part covered wi...
[11:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Differentiate? - 06Amazon's Profits Are Floating on a Cloud - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:27:39] <exec> 08└─Marketing.
[11:27:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Marand [1081] 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 3338 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:27:53] <exec> 08└─Debian, even Jessie (going stable tomorrow) still has other init options than systemd, so you aren't forced into using it if you don't want. If you aren't using it as a desktop system, purging systemd and going back to another init (either the traditional one or some alternative) should have few (if...
[11:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Who cares? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:59] <exec> 08└─This is the first time in a long time that I have no plans to try this Ubuntu release. I expect I'll never install it, nor any future version. I tolerated the candy-coated Unity GUI because I only had to see it long enough to open a shell and apt-get something usable. My suspicious went way up when...
[11:28:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yawn. - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:28:15] <exec> 08└─Just a note, the Apple Watch already has an App Store.
[11:28:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score:2) 02Re:Different? - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:28:42] <exec> 08└─If the paper trail can be inspected by each voter at the time of voting, malware changing what is printed will be caught on the day of the election. I don't know if the voting machines that were used were designed to show the paper version to the voter though.
[11:28:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score:2) 02Re:Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:28:53] <exec> 08└─A desirable property is if no voter can prove who they voted for. This reduces the ability to bribe or coerce people to vote for a particular party or candidate. That might not be possible if you hand out tokens to be used outside of the polling place. In fact, even if the vote itself could not be t...
[11:29:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why is this an issue? - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:29:26] <exec> 08└─I don't know why people are so upset about this. It's just steam letting modders...charge for their mods
[11:30:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gringer [962] 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 488 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:30:07] <exec> 08└─There has actually been quite a bit of research on the most effective placebo. See here for a nice video summary: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] or here if you can't be bothered with a 1m introduction: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] If yo...
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[12:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03dexcheque [4758] (Score:1) 02Spelljammer? - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 857 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:25] <exec> 08└─What if that Galaxy Far, Far Away isn't a galaxy the way we reckon it? Without the cold, hard vacuum of space, but something a little more like the philogistron in Spelljammer -- with it's own inherent gravity and atmosphere? And those worlds aren't "planets" as such? Might go a long way toward expl...
[12:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:3, Informative) 02It really isn't impossible - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 2310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:26] <exec> 08└─Many people have commented on the fact that it's only a movie, or that it's not possible, but let's pretend for a moment these places were real. Tatooine: Mars is a similar analog. It's really dry, and it's more or less uniformly red and sandy. But it is impossible for a whole planet to be a desert...
[12:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:It really isn't impossible - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:27:28] <exec> 08└─I think you're confusing Endor with the forest moon of Endor. ;)
[12:29:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score:2) 02Re:Why is this an issue? - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:29:25] <exec> 08└─I agree there is nothing wrong with it in theory. However, since Steam pays the modders only 25% of revenue, it doesn't look like compensating the modders was the main goal here. And seeing the garbage that makes it into Steam early access (watch some of Jim Sterling's videos [youtube.com] if you're...
[12:29:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:29:57] <exec> 08└─He was down modded earlier. Twas reinforcing my point on hushing anyone that does not toe the line. But you are right, maybe progress can be made. If only it affected the third one too, he has been slowly getting more virulent over the last few months. In any case I am glad they are around. It is ha...
[12:29:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:29:59] <exec> 08└─What about jmorris and his feelings? And how can progress be made when verbal stones are being thrown?
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[13:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02At least OS X boots up. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:03] <exec> 08└─At least OS X boots up to a usable state. That's more than I can say for the various systemd-infected Linux distros I've used recently.
[13:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At least OS X boots up. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:04] <exec> 08└─you suck. that is all
[13:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:No... - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:15] <exec> 08└─Also, given how little travelling the characters do, there's no real reason to believe that the climate is homogeneous on most of them. Hoth could be going through an ice age. I think we see Tatooine from space and it looks like it's desert, but the fact that it's roughly sand coloured everywhere do...
[13:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03SrLnclt [1473] (Score:2) 02Planet as a Destination - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:24] <exec> 08└─Most Sci-Fi involving other worlds have this issue. Take a trip through the stargate, and run around for a few hours. You now know everything there is to know about that world. The people living within a few miles of the stargate may be the only people you meet - everyone else is either the same or...
[13:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Google's cloud - 06Amazon's Profits Are Floating on a Cloud - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:34] <exec> 08└─Isn't the main user of Google'scloud Google itself?
[13:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The solution is Devuan. - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:43] <exec> 08└─"The solution is Devuan." Hahahahahahahahaha! LOL! LOL! LOL! Hahahahahahahhahahahhahahaha! LOL! Hahahahah! LOL! LOL! Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahah! LOL LOL LOL! Hahahahahahahahahhahahhahahaha! LOL!
[13:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:49] <exec> 08└─I don't see the problem here. You can still choose from FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, PC-BSD and DragonFly BSD. Hell, just go with FreeBSD and you'll get the best of the other variants. They run pretty much all of the same good software that Linux does, without the stupidity of systemd and the other shi...
[13:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:53] <exec> 08└─Jesus Christ. The point of me using a Linux distro is to make my life easier. If I have to jump through hoops like those just so the Linux installation boots reliably, then I'm no better off than if I was using Windows or some other OS. Fuck, I'd probably be better off not using Linux in this case!
[13:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:57] <exec> 08└─Slackware isn't an option. It's a fossil. It isn't 1995 any longer. The economy has been in the shitter for years, and we're busy enough just keeping afloat. We don't have time to spent days configuring a new Linux installation by hand. We need Linux distros that install quickly, that configure them...
[13:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:28:00] <exec> 08└─Based on my experience with it, systemd has been expertly tuned to prevent systems from booting properly. In all of my decades of using Linux, I've never had systems rendered un-bootable as many times as I've had happen when using systemd. It's not an init system. It's an init-prevention system.
[13:28:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:28:02] <exec> 08└─Count me as someone who doesn't care too much whether SystemD becomes part of the core packages of desktop Linux.
[13:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who cares? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:28:03] <exec> 08└─Linux is worse than Windows now. As shitty as it is to use, my Windows 8 system boots each and every time, even after performing updates. My Fedora system, running systemd, has failed to boot properly many times, especially after updates. It has gotten so bad that I tend to use my Windows 8 laptop i...
[13:28:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:28:24] <exec> 08└─A comment like that on an article about smart watches probably isn't the best place for that joke. Pebble, then various Android watches were release long before the Apple watch. They did it first, the do it cheaper, and they (arguably) do it better and with more choice. Really, you'd be hard pressed...
[13:29:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It isn't Florida again? - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:02] <exec> 08└─I'm wondering whether this is an attempt to get ahead of the inevitable rehash of Florida's election history. The strategy would be to make a big mess in Kansas so that the unholy trinity of network news spends their eyeball time on being "outraged, and appalled" somewhere OTHER than a Bush state. A...
[13:30:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:An old joke - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:30:51] <exec> 08└─It's the assumption that encouraging short term economic activity is more important than its substantial costs, such as the physical cost of broken windows or the opportunity costs of taxes.
[13:32:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Odd - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:32:23] <exec> 08└─And model it on the patent system, where each renewal is more expensive than the last.
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[14:27:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How do they compare to elephants? - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:02] <exec> 08└─I saw elephants at a zoo once, and what struck me the most was how large their genitalia were. Even relative to their size, the male elephants had very large penises and hefty scrotums. Were wolly mammoths the same? Were they well endowed with large genitalia?
[14:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:How do they compare to elephants? - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:04] <exec> 08└─http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/wildlife/9590626/Russian-boy-discovers-woolly-mammoth-of-the-century.html [telegraph.co.uk] "An employee of the International Mammoth Committee and me went to the site. Judging by its legs, it turned out to be quite a large mammoth, it was lying on its right si...
[14:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Why does nobody listen to the eyeballs? - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:14] <exec> 08└─As noted open source theologian Eric S. Raymond stated, "given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow". The eyeballs are all saying that systemd is a bug. That is, not only does it suffer from bugs, but its very existence is a bug. Yet now that the bug has been identified, why is it not being fixed?...
[14:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Informative) 02Now put the shoe on the other foot. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:15] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I put the men's size 12 shoe on my cock. And the shoe was too small. Now my cock hurts, and you're damn right I'm going to bitch and moan about it!
[14:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Now put the shoe on the other foot. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 1052 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:17] <exec> 08└─One of the mods goofed up. That comment may not be direct, but it's on-topic. Somebody should fix that bad modding. It's referring to a common saying within Silicon Valley these days. Putting a "size 12 shoe on a big cock" refers to doing something that doesn't make sense. In this case, it's the exp...
[14:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02It just works! - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:19] <exec> 08└─Nt
[14:27:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:No... - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:29] <exec> 08└─Exactly; we never see the other parts of these planets. For all we know, Dagobah has icy polar zones, but it's irrelevant because Yoda doesn't live there. Hoth might have been a warmer planet at one time (which is why it has some life), but it got plunged into an ice age somehow, and most stuff has...
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[14:27:57] <exec> 08└─To paraphrase a famous song from years gone by, New blood joins this earth, And quickly he's subdued. Through constant pained disgrace, Systemd learns their rules. With time the child draws in. This whipping boy done wrong. Deprived of all his thoughts, Systemd struggles on and on. He's now a vow un...
[14:28:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:28:15] <exec> 08└─As a long time Linux sysadmin and user, I never thought I'd say this, but Windows is getting much better than Linux. Even with their shitty tablet UIs, Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012 have been more reliable and usable, in my experience, than recent Linux distros.
[14:29:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:29:10] <exec> 08└─Sigh...do you even understand what source code IS? It is just that, the source of the code that MIGHT be on the machine. It isn't magical pixie dust that protects you from attackers that control the hardware and to think otherwise is either beyond naive or simply ignoring reality to push your FOSS a...
[14:29:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 1312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:29:32] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Look at Greenlight which Valve said would help get good indie games on Steam, reality? For every 1 decent you now have 100 "attack of the cheap Unity art assets" pieces of trash shat out quickly clogging up the pipe. And its not like modders don't ALREADY have ways they can make money, they...
[14:30:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Why the corrective optics? - 06Hubble Space Telescope—25 Years Old Today - 2256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:00] <exec> 08└─There's the official version of events [wikipedia.org] as described on Wikipedia. That version reeks of bullshit and you've already pointed out why as you (and lots of other people making their own optics and telescopes) would have done a better job. Optics are like Mars rovers or any other piece of...
[14:30:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:22] <exec> 08└─Please consider that this place would be a lot more fun if we could all be civil, even when we disagree. Otherwise we might as well hang up the shingle and go back to Slashdot.
[14:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:But homeopath is now starting to cost big money - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:30:35] <exec> 08└─No, you got it wrong. It goes, "you know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine." Homeopathy is not medicine, and never will be. Ingesting purified water will not cure your ailments.
[14:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:don't buy it - 06In Defence of the Concept of Ownership - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:34:39] <exec> 08└─Alrighty then, replace the HEI in the text with modern electronic ignition-mathingy.
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[15:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How do they compare to elephants? - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:05] <exec> 08└─HOLY FUCK!
[15:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why does nobody listen to the eyeballs? - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:16] <exec> 08└─As noted open source theologian Eric S. Raymond stated, "given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow".
[15:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Now put the shoe on the other foot. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:19] <exec> 08└─Funny that this is modded offtopic too. Troll perhaps would be appropriate however because of this: It's very relevant, even if some people here aren't intelligent enough to understand it.
[15:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Now put the shoe on the other foot. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:21] <exec> 08└─OS X is a product of Silicon Valley culture. One can't understand OS X without understanding Silicon Valley culture, and the people that make up this culture. It's impossible to discuss OS X without having a proper understanding of Silicon Valley culture. Anyone who doesn't understand Silicon Valley...
[15:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It just works! - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:23] <exec> 08└─Yes, Windows NT did just work. What's your point?
[15:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02[SN META] Downmodding considered harmful. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:25] <exec> 08└─As I write this, there are 7 comments posted to this story. Five of them (that's over 70%!) have been modded down with ratings like: 0, Troll-1, Troll1, Disagree-1, Offtopic0, Offtopic As I read the comments, it became obvious that they were not as described by the rating. They were not trolling, an...
[15:27:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02No... - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 170 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:33] <exec> 08└─...because they're fictional. They're just locations. Whereas Earth hosts a wide diversity of biomes, the planets of Star Wars boast far fewer climates and topographies.
[15:28:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:28:16] <exec> 08└─Sharks are fossils too, yet they rule the seas just as much today as they did hundreds of millions of years ago. Old is different from bad. The tool to select depends on the task at hand.
[15:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03present_arms [4392] (Score:2) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:28:18] <exec> 08└─http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com/ [mypclinuxos.com] No Systemd here, or in any of the parent distros DISCLAIMER, I;m the one who did the trinity respin
[15:28:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:Who cares? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:28:27] <exec> 08└─This is the first time in a long time that I have no plans to try this Ubuntu release. I expect I'll never install it, nor any future version. I tolerated the candy-coated Unity GUI because I only had to see it long enough to open a shell and apt-get something usable.
[15:28:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:28:49] <exec> 08└─That's exactly the joke. Apple isn't first, but when they come along all the sudden all the similar products out there start looking like it. I swear people hear Apple use the word 'innovate' and rember it as 'invent'.
[15:29:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Different? - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:29:11] <exec> 08└─I believe the operating assumption is that the alleged vote manipulation avoids small precincts because it would be much easier to demonstrate fraud. Go to everyone who voted and get an affidavit stating for whom they voted. When that doesn't match the official vote, then you have a problem. It's no...
[15:29:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Dictatorship - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:29:15] <exec> 08└─Please stop the idiotic Godwining of this thread. The Nazis aren't the only ultimate bad guys out there who get abused every time someone complains. And we're splitting a very wide hair here, miles wide. Sneaky electoral fraud is nothing like the hell that the USSR or North Korea or Nazi Germany or...
[15:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:$arcasm - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:37] <exec> 08└─Consider it considered.
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[16:27:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How do they compare to elephants? - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:11] <exec> 08└─The blue whale says hi and laughs at their tiny penis, if such things mattered.
[16:27:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:How do they compare to elephants? - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:12] <exec> 08└─The good news is that the woolly mammooth genome has a 94.4% similarity with the elephant genome. The bad news is that it has a 99.3% similarity with your mom's.
[16:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Old DNA - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:14] <exec> 08└─Read a book recently by a Swedish guy who first sequenced neanderthal dna (or was it egyptian mummy? anyway something super old), and noted how difficult it is to extract DNA material from such old remains and to keep them from contamination, and that many published findings were of compromised natu...
[16:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:1) 02Re:Old DNA - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:16] <exec> 08└─We won't know until the mammoths are revived, and even then it's just conjecture really.
[16:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03SunTzuWarmaster [3971] (Score:1) 02One Step Closer - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:18] <exec> 08└─Every time I read one of these stories, I think that I am one step closer to three things: 1 - riding a woolly mammoth 2 - eating a mammoth burger 3 - wearing a mammoth coat Also, I was in an internet-debate at one time. The other party made the case that "if something is dead, we should keep it tha...
[16:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:1) 02Re:[SN META] Downmodding considered harmful. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:34] <exec> 08└─All of these comments are troll threads with nothing new and little worth reading. The mods match the quality.
[16:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Reality vs Sci Fi and Fantasy - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 1934 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:56] <exec> 08└─I find it quite amusing, and slightly annoying, when they are trying to bring and apply "reality" to "fantasy" (or sci-fi). As if there always is some deep and hidden meaning behind the stories that will somehow help us here and now. In this particular case it is Star Wars, the reason for it is prob...
[16:28:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:28:27] <exec> 08└─Bob Young left RedHat - and it became the corporate route to infect and compromise Linux by those who do their magic so well with Microsoft., etc.
[16:28:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:28:28] <exec> 08└─Canonical has gotten heavily involved in "cloud". One of their recent releases was a mini-distro built around containerization (Snappy). Systemd has of late gained a whole lot of features to supplant Docker. One may speculate that Canonical saw the writing on the wall, and wanted Debian to go System...
[16:28:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:28:33] <exec> 08└─Very cool! Thanks!
[16:28:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:systemd invades another - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:28:35] <exec> 08└─Anything RPM based has already gone down the tube as most of them seem to take their lead from Fedora.
[16:28:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:28:39] <exec> 08└─Systemd seems to have been developed like Apple developed harder under Jobs. It is tuned for the use of one person, in the Systemd case its Poettering.
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[17:27:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:How do they compare to elephants? - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:09] <exec> 08└─Heh. Wannabe troll learns his lesson.
[17:27:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Paradise Pete [1806] (Score:1) 02Re:How do they compare to elephants? - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:11] <exec> 08└─The blue whale says hi and laughs at their tiny penis, if such things mattered.
[17:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FlatPepsi [3546] (Score:1) 02Re:One Step Closer - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:17] <exec> 08└─>2 - eating a mammoth burger I'm with you on #2. Sounds yummy. >3 - wearing a mammoth coat Is it just me, or does anyone else get a vision of Elton John?
[17:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:One Step Closer - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:18] <exec> 08└─If they don't farm Elephants they won't farm Mammoth.
[17:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One Step Closer - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:20] <exec> 08└─Being hunted to death by humans
[17:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02see you later - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:22] <exec> 08└─there are people who say that a few species (?) go extinct ever day (amazon and such places?) so it would be a nice gesture to the universe if we could put our human ingenuity and energy to some good for a change? they will prolly eat (and poop) alot ^_^
[17:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:[SN META] Downmodding considered harmful. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:39] <exec> 08└─What needs to go is the discussion of systemd in topics that have nothing to do with systemd. That's what the moderations are trying to tell you.
[17:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In my whole life I've only read one scifi story - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:57] <exec> 08└─First, a novel is short. If the story doesn’t imply a great travel, the action (and the descriptions) is restricted to a relatively small area and the rest of the planet is left unknown to the reader. Look at earth-bound stories: are all the different climates shown? Second, broaden your readings.
[17:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:In my whole life I've only read one scifi story - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:58] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing you never saw Star Trek III then.
[17:28:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Differentiate? - 06Amazon's Profits Are Floating on a Cloud - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:28:12] <exec> 08└─You raise a very good point. What good is Amazon for investors. My answer is, if the investors are banks, Amazon makes perfect sense: you have it as competitor, your business falls on hard times, you become roadkill for the bank. If they are normal investors, well good luck. Rethinking the whole fin...
[17:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03SunTzuWarmaster [3971] (Score:1) 02Re:Differentiate? - 06Amazon's Profits Are Floating on a Cloud - 1693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:28:13] <exec> 08└─Have you messed around with their cloud computing products? You can set up a web software business with little-to-no coding. Here, let me make you a business model: 1 - Do market analysis and find out some obscure data type that needs automated labeling. Let's call it "pictures of girls wearing head...
[17:28:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Poorly Written Summary - 06Amazon's Profits Are Floating on a Cloud - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:16] <exec> 08└─Not until the third sentence do we find out what Ponca City and Its Variants' latest spew is about. Also, two versions of the same story from the same source, and Wikipedia as the authority for a historical assertion. Just Say No to Hugh's word salads.
[17:28:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who cares? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:28:53] <exec> 08└─That's because Mint don't seem to have bought into the notion of users being idiots, and thus offer a DE that so not assume so either. Having the "fortune" of interacting with a Gnome dev reveals how much disdain they have for users. This apparently because testing on Gnome 2 revealed that users oft...
[17:29:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dictatorship - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:29:43] <exec> 08└─US is democratic like Russia or North fucking Korea.
[17:32:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:List of A.I. sci-fi? - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:32:01] <exec> 08└─I was talking about landing on the Moon again.
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[18:27:01] <exec> 08└─If the member countries could agree to close some of the loopholes in the tax system(s), lets say by 10^9 Euro, and channel that to FLOSS, then you could fund many, many projects. The real problem is deciding who is worthy of receiving funds and how that is done. Standard EU bureaucratic methods and...
[18:27:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Finance - 06The EU Should Finance Key Open Source Tools - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:02] <exec> 08└─Europe, being able to see past their own nose is heading in the right direction. I, for one, would welcome even a closed-source European (mainland Europe, excluding U.K) alternative to American back-doored, front-doored, closed -or- (pwned) open source software. I would also appreciate open-source m...
[18:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How do they compare to elephants? - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:14] <exec> 08└─No, Mammoth Fuck for you! I heard they were casting a mold of it, with you in mind. ;-) You have to watch what you say around those paleontologists, they are a quirky bunch...especially the ones measuring mammoth cocks.
[18:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Old DNA - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:20] <exec> 08└─It really depends on the environment the remains have been in.
[18:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:One Step Closer - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:23] <exec> 08└─Not Elton John, in my mind. Not nearly flamboyant enough. I immediately pictured Freddy Flinstone from that comment.
[18:27:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No... - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:58] <exec> 08└─...because they're fictional.
[18:30:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The whole point. - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:06] <exec> 08└─Not if making computers preform that task in an adequately safe way costs more than centuries of paper voting, both in terms of money spent and work hours used.
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[19:26:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Waste - 06How Much of the Amazon Rainforest Would it Take to Print the Internet? - 1291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:59] <exec> 08└─Honestly we need newer technologies for structure organization and storage. This applies to both data and energy which extends into all sectors. These people are getting press time for doing nothing of value for anyone. I keep seeing horrific stories of bad laws, bad science etc. I wish there would...
[19:27:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Waste - 06How Much of the Amazon Rainforest Would it Take to Print the Internet? - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:00] <exec> 08└─Well, not this one, this one sucks and I could care less about the convo because it's just navel gazing, but I mean other stories I've seen around, I'm just upset at the mountainous amounts of crappy useless stories compared to ones that have practical data nuggets in them.
[19:27:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Finance - 06The EU Should Finance Key Open Source Tools - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:10] <exec> 08└─The real problem is deciding who is worthy of receiving funds
[19:27:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Old DNA - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:28] <exec> 08└─Here, we present high-quality complete genome sequences from two woolly mammoths (Mammuthus primigenius). The first mammoth was sequenced at 17.1-fold coverage and dates to ∼4,300 years before present, representing one of the last surviving individuals on Wrangel Island. The second mammoth, sequen...
[19:27:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Tork [3914] 02Re:[SN META] Downmodding considered harmful. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 145 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:54] <exec> 08└─What needs to go is the discussion of systemd in topics that have nothing to do with systemd. That's what the moderations are trying to tell you.
[19:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Another case of sensationalized non-news - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 2951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:55] <exec> 08└─The Gatekeeper "attack" isn't a new vector for getting around Gatekeeper. It was done that way by design so that trusted apps could load new resources more easily. What he seems to be suggesting is that you can create a trusted app that acts in an untrustworthy manner by pulling down malware, but in...
[19:28:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:No... - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 1424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:09] <exec> 08└─I agree. Even if you don't dismiss the premise because its a pointless and ridiculous speculation of things that don't exist (and what true geek would ever do that!?) it is a terrible argument. > The ice planet Hoth never thaws Who says? Maybe it was in an ice age? Maybe that is what winter looks li...
[19:28:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Coruscant - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:14] <exec> 08└─Not to mention the entire planet that's a big city. No plants? At all? No water? Not likely.
[19:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"no better off than if I was using Windows" - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:54] <exec> 08└─Many people would challenge that statement. It's 2014 and You Can Still Pwn a Windows Box Using a Word File or Font [soylentnews.org] It's Nearly 2015 and Your Windows PC Can Still be Pwned by a Visual Basic Script [soylentnews.org] It's 2015 and Your Windows Server Can Still be Pwned by a JPEG [soy...
[19:29:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:29:12] <exec> 08└─Windows still can't delete a file if someone has it open somewhere. I prefer my admin powers to actually be worth something : )
[19:29:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Windows is getting much better than Linux" - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:29:13] <exec> 08└─Come back and say that AFTER Redmond has a permissions meme that isn't a complete joke. ...and after you don't have to reboot a box running their OS after making minor tweaks. ...and after you don't need layers and layers of band-aids pasted all over their OS. I have another comment up the thread th...
[19:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Who cares? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:29:16] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, AC testimonials for controversial subjects are typically ignored. If you want a super-smooth and fast computer that will never fail to boot, try a chromebook. Windows is great if you never do anything custom or advanced. Linux is great if you don't mind occasionally being a data-sleut...
[19:29:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Go away - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:20] <exec> 08└─My first thought was, "Go away, flock to BSD, we don't need you." I've noticed a large increase in the useless Linux user population recently, that is, users who whine and contribute nothing back to the Linux ecosystem, not even useful bug reports or suggestions ("I don't like X" is not a useful sug...
[19:29:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] 02Different? - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 212 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:58] <exec> 08└─And why wouldn't any malware installed on the voting machines change the paper trail as well? It seems incredibly unlikely that any fraud that could of occurred would not have changed both records simultaneously.
[19:30:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:Different? - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:05] <exec> 08└─I bet 1-5% don't even remember who voted (a lot of them make up their minds with the ballot in front of them), and a further 1% would lie who they voted for for some reason, and there is probably another 1% who mistakenly pressed the wrong button and have no idea they voted for the wrong candidate....
[19:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:40] <exec> 08└─So in other words this is less about the fostering a healthy modding community and more about monetising something that was free to increase revenue.
[19:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:43] <exec> 08└─That analogy is so weak it just collapsed under its own weight. I am not going to discuss it. You do realise that finding any ol' analogy that vaguely fits is not proof of anything, right? Analogies are supposed to make EXPLAINING something complex easier - not become the laughable pretence of proof...
[19:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DSM - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:46] <exec> 08└─Stop the habit of accusing random people of made up bullshit.
[19:36:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DSM - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:51] <exec> 08└─You must have meant to say “not empirical” since empiricism [wikipedia.org] is based on experience, revision, and falsification.
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[20:27:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Not to be a hypocrite - 06How Much of the Amazon Rainforest Would it Take to Print the Internet? - 1600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:02] <exec> 08└─Since I gave that silly rant, I should obviously follow my own advice. For those of you with an interest in energy production there is a not so new but very interesting and affordable long lasting technology called fresnel lenses. These lenses are capable of generating upto 1,200 deg C of heat. This...
[20:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Silly study, silly results. - 06How Much of the Amazon Rainforest Would it Take to Print the Internet? - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:03] <exec> 08└─Wikipedia, which provided an average of 15 pages required to print each article.
[20:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Poor analysis - 06How Much of the Amazon Rainforest Would it Take to Print the Internet? - 1724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:05] <exec> 08└─So, they took a random sampling of 10 and then extrapolated it to apply to something like 13 million articles? Why not just analyze ALL of Wikipedia? Wikipedia provides dumps of snapshots for all of the text on the entire site, after all. Let's do a quick and rough analysis, just to get an order of...
[20:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"the crazy notion that gov't should be trusted" - 06The EU Should Finance Key Open Source Tools - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:16] <exec> 08└─ISTM you're extrapolating the failures of the USA's broken-by-design power-hoarding governmental design across every nation. The parliamentary systems across northern Europe seem to be doing a significantly better job at pretty much everything. Investing money into your own economy by using local ta...
[20:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:"the crazy notion that gov't should be trusted" - 06The EU Should Finance Key Open Source Tools - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:18] <exec> 08└─ISTM you're extrapolating the failures of the USA's broken-by-design power-hoarding governmental design across every nation. The parliamentary systems across northern Europe seem to be doing a significantly better job at pretty much everything.
[20:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Finance - 06The EU Should Finance Key Open Source Tools - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:20] <exec> 08└─Even if that initialtive would result in backdoored Open Source code, the only alternative we currently have is backdoored proprietary code. In backdoored Open Source, we have a better chance to eventually find the backdoors, and a much better chance to get them fixed after they are found. So backdo...
[20:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:Finance - 06The EU Should Finance Key Open Source Tools - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:21] <exec> 08└─Quote BsAtHome: "If the member countries could agree to close some of the loopholes in the tax system(s)" The quickest way to doom any good suggestion is to make it contingent upon changes in government. You have to work around, under, over or through entrenched institutions. They won't change for y...
[20:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score:1) 02Re:Another case of sensationalized non-news - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:05] <exec> 08└─I didn't take this to be that overblown. Just an informative layout of how apple is currently trying to protect macs and the shortcomings of those systems. Since I'm not an apple user but I am interested in security this was an interesting read for me. Out of curiosity android has a similar system t...
[20:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Re:Another case of sensationalized non-news - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:06] <exec> 08└─I believe it works the same way, but don't quote me on that.
[20:28:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:No... - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:20] <exec> 08└─But Han [canoe.com] shot first.
[20:28:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:Coruscant - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:27] <exec> 08└─Hot tip: Dubrillion Water Supply is moving in to undercut Coruscant Water. Queen Risha sees a big opportunity here. Invest now before everyone else gets in. I've already called my broker on Nar Shaddaa.
[20:28:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Planet as a Destination - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:36] <exec> 08└─But there's a Stargate episode where they played with that concept: The team gets back through an hitherto unknown second star gate on earth which happens to be in the polar region (don't remember whether north or south). When they arrive, they have no idea where they are, and from the surrounding c...
[20:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some people are really annoyed for no reason - 06Steam Now Offering Paid Workshop Mods - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:54] <exec> 08└─Yes. Even more odd considering people within valve have stated that they do not do things for money as steam is so profitable and valve has so few employees they can do whatever they want. It has been used by Newell as justification for why they have refused to be bought out for absurd amounts of mo...
[20:31:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Randall Munroe: Guru - 06Homeopathy: Fraud, or Purveyors of Placebos - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:58] <exec> 08└─a big ass-science machine I see that you have followed the way of the master. [xkcd.com] -- gewg_
[20:32:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:It's all in your viewpoint - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:32:28] <exec> 08└─OK, so let's say you're held in hostage, and you have the reasonable and realistic expectation that you will soon get killed in a cruel and painful way. Does that really make you happy? Happiness is highly correlated with having positive expectations.
[20:33:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong point of view - 06What If One Country Achieves the Singularity First? - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:33:02] <exec> 08└─Think how would you react if you'd be paralysed, with no sense of smell, touch, taste, proprioception (sensing your body),
[20:36:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:DSM - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:55] <exec> 08└─Stop the habit of accusing random people of made up bullshit.
[20:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:My money is on more leeches - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:24] <exec> 08└─What? Aren't you forgetting a lot of things? The ability to do neurology is directly linked to philosophy. Philosophy invented science! [wikipedia.org] We're back to a new dark age if people haven't understood the reasons or heard the explanations of how we escaped the last one.
[20:37:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Works great for OCD. - 06Depression Not Caused by Low Serotonin Levels - Most Drugs for Treatment Based on Myth - 1203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:38] <exec> 08└─Well you're wrong in general there. In medicine/biology the usual reason some things takes a long time to give noticeable effect is that you're building up “something” gradually from a depleted low level in order to get it up and over a threshold value or into a range that is considered healthy/...
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[21:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Rainforest? - 06How Much of the Amazon Rainforest Would it Take to Print the Internet? - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:14] <exec> 08└─Methinks there was some politics behind this. In the first place, deforestation of the rain forest is to clear ground for agriculture more than anything. There's logging, but most of this is lumber. I don't know how much of the rainforest is hardwood, but you DON'T make paper from hardwoods! Next, w...
[21:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How do they compare to elephants? - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:27:40] <exec> 08└─Didn't seem like a troll to me. 1/5th of shoulder height is very large even accounting for size.
[21:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Old DNA - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:27:47] <exec> 08└─Absolutely. It isn't science until it is empirically tested. So lets test.
[21:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mammoth burgers - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:27:56] <exec> 08└─Apparently, this happens often enough that it was a plot point in an episode of "Northern Exposure". "Lovers and Madmen" [comcast.net] Original Air Date: May 23, 1994 Joel finds a woolly mammoth frozen just beneath the surface of a glacier and is thrilled with his discovery. When he brings an expert...
[21:28:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Now put the shoe on the other foot. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:28:12] <exec> 08└─Cars are a product of Detroit. One can't understand cars without understanding Detroit culture and the people that make up this culture. It is impossible to discuss cars without having a proper understanding of Silicon Valley culture. Anyone who doesn't understand Detroit culture probably should not...
[21:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:[SN META] Downmodding considered harmful. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:28:18] <exec> 08└─Systemd seems relevant in this case. The topic is OS security. Comparing Mac OS X to Linux is relevant.
[21:28:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:[SN META] Downmodding considered harmful. - 06Bypassing OS X Security Tools is Trivial - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:28:20] <exec> 08└─It wasn't.
[21:28:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Look at our own solar system. - 06Could the Planets in Star Wars Actually Support Life? - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:28:54] <exec> 08└─Which planets are diverse of climate and topography, and which are more or less monoworlds? Earth is by far the most diverse, probably followed by Jupiter (given its bands and spots of weather). Conversely our own moon varies only by "cratered" and "not so cratered". Mars is only slightly more varie...
[21:29:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"no better off than if I was using Windows" - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:29:27] <exec> 08└─And they would be wrong. Booting is more important than security in the same sense that being born is more important than your ability to fight off an infection.
[21:29:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who cares? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:29:49] <exec> 08└─Maybe that is a Fedora problem and not a systemd problem
[21:30:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrorists - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:20] <exec> 08└─If !care then know. Not knowing is easier than not caring, therefore more people are terrorists: the condition that is bad m'kay. Entirely unrelated surely, by chance, are you German?
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[22:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Excercises rooted in reality are better - 06Coding the Equivalent of NSA's QUANTUM as a Homework Assignment - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:03] <exec> 08└─It's good to always keep your assignments rooted in reality, with real-world examples. People are more motivated than with the usual proof-of-concept assignments. And as a cool bonus, you get to quintify just how much work would go into (a basic version of) the hack. Cool!
[22:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02The problem is right at the top. - 06Coding the Equivalent of NSA's QUANTUM as a Homework Assignment - 1013 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:04] <exec> 08└─Why does the President assign these old warhorses to run the NSA? The NSA has put a lot of effort into offensive capabilities and failed repeatedly in its defensive role. In traditional warfare, it is often true that the best form of defence is an attack. But attacks across the Internet don't work l...
[22:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They worked to ensure others could too?? - 06Coding the Equivalent of NSA's QUANTUM as a Homework Assignment - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:06] <exec> 08└─I don't know why it all gets dumped on the NSA's feet. He says the Chinese have been doing it. Why didn't they build up the Internet defenses? Or why didn't Hacking Team build it up either? Or why didn't all the other countries using this form of attack not build up the Internet defenses to save us...
[22:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03archshade [3664] (Score:1) 02Re:Waste - 06How Much of the Amazon Rainforest Would it Take to Print the Internet? - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:16] <exec> 08└─I could care less about the convo
[22:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"more intrusive" - 06The EU Should Finance Key Open Source Tools - 1258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:31] <exec> 08└─Wait. You're saying there's something worse than "Collect it all"?? Now it's you who is doing the placard hoisting^W^W flag waving. My post above was deliberately non-nationalistic ...if one ignores the countries that are ALREADY making sure that open standards and open source software work for thei...
[22:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Finance - 06The EU Should Finance Key Open Source Tools - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:34] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you are right. But all those eyes failed on the Elliptical Curve [cryptographyengineering.com] random number generator fiasco. Just as likely, it will be illegal to change the government approved back-doors, and every distro will be obligated to propagate them, and removal instructions will...
[22:29:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"no better off than if I was using Windows" - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:29:34] <exec> 08└─Wait, you're claiming that Linux sans systemd doesn't boot? SysVinit and the other old-school init systems were merely accused of booting too slowly, leading to the primary reason claimed for needing the systemd infection. The non-booting systems [google.com] of late have actually been the ones usin...
[22:30:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Go away - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:00] <exec> 08└─Sysadmins like myself never needed to write our own "inits and services managers". We made any desired changes to the init scripts right after the base OS install, then never had to mess with (or suffer a failed boot from) them again. We have no need of "service managers", since the proper fix for a...
[22:31:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Open-source election software - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:03] <exec> 08└─I am a programmer. I think I know what source code is. And I recognize that making it available creates some sort of "magic malware shield", but complete openness makes it harder for someone to do some unkosher (or non-halal if you prefer).
[22:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:58] <exec> 08└─Actually, the money's in touring, not record sales. The labels get most of the money for records.
[22:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:12] <exec> 08└─I agree that it shouldn't apply to non-commercial file sharing, and in fact I encourage people to share my books. They're all free to download from my web site. However, present copyright lengths are greatly hindering an article in an upcoming book that originally had the lyrics to the last two song...
[22:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 1245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:13] <exec> 08└─I see you're both young and you've never written anything worth holding a copyright. Isaac Asimov didn't get a dime for his Hugo-winning Foundation trilogy for ten years after it was first published -- his publisher had no decent merchandising. After Doubleday bought the rights, he finally started g...
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[23:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02Re:They worked to ensure others could too?? - 06Coding the Equivalent of NSA's QUANTUM as a Homework Assignment - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:27:06] <exec> 08└─The reason the NSA gets blamed is because its mandate requires it to both gather intelligence through exploits and strengthen the security of network technologies for the benefit of the broader public. (Though as Bruce Schneier and others have pointed out, this is a schizophrenic mandate for a singl...
[23:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Poor analysis - 06How Much of the Amazon Rainforest Would it Take to Print the Internet? - 1219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:27:20] <exec> 08└─Agreed. Also, a Wikipedia dump is only a general snapshot of everything on Wikipedia. Many things that are on Wikipedia will likely not make it in that dump. As others have pointed out font size also matters. Also if you're printing out pictures one should consider how big the print outs are vs how...
[23:27:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Finance - 06The EU Should Finance Key Open Source Tools - 1000 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:27:36] <exec> 08└─Sigh...that is why the world had to spend billions on the BASHing that was Shellshock and Heartbleed. The problem is too many pieces of critical FOSS has been ignored under the "many eyes myth" which is a classic "is/ought" fallacy in that everybody assumes because the code IS out there somebody wit...
[23:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Finance - 06The EU Should Finance Key Open Source Tools - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:27:38] <exec> 08└─The quickest way to doom any good suggestion is to make it contingent upon changes in government.
[23:27:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:How do they compare to elephants? - 06Woolly Mammoth Genome Sequenced - 729 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:27:48] <exec> 08└─http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/wildlife/9590626/Russian-boy-discovers-woolly-mammoth-of-the-century.html [telegraph.co.uk] "An employee of the International Mammoth Committee and me went to the site. Judging by its legs, it turned out to be quite a large mammoth, it was lying on its right si...
[23:30:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who cares? - 06Ubuntu 15.04 Released - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:00] <exec> 08└─Fedora pretty much is SystemdOS.
[23:30:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Tork [3914] 02Re:Yawn. - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 229 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:16] <exec> 08└─The watch will be successful only if it offers benefits to the wearer. From my personal POV, there are none. Perhaps if you receive tons of messages, that watch would be handy. Other than that, I don't know what it is good for...
[23:30:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] 02Re:Terrorists - 06The Apple Watch has Landed - 79 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:37] <exec> 08└─I think it's something every American should strive for as a second language :D
[23:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dictatorship - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:58] <exec> 08└─Well if you watched FOX news you'd know that.
[23:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Dictatorship - 06Statistician Sues Election Official over Voting Machine Anomalies - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:59] <exec> 08└─I didn't know the Nazis were from Russia or North Korea.
[23:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:10] <exec> 08└─How can you attach value to something that has no value? If you think art, music, and literature have no value I feel sorry for you. What exactly is an exclusive right? What does that mean? How can you attach value to something that has no value? Can I copyright 142857? Then anyone who does division...
[23:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06UK Green Party Proposes 14-year Copyright Term - Artists are not Amused - 2105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:13] <exec> 08└─In the digital age, music is just a form of information, and information is an infinite commodity. It's just an idea or an expression which has no physical form, so it's infinitely replicable. Not just infinitely replicable, but infinitely replicable at zero cost. That's what has changed. Producing...
[23:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03logan [3020] (Score:1) 02Re:Name Change - 06Arduino vs Arduino - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:35:06] <exec> 08└─An English speaking could pronounce Arduino "r-doo-ee-no". In case you wonder about the name: Some of the founders used to meet in a bar named after Arduin of Ivrea [wikipedia.org].
[23:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Name Change - 06Arduino vs Arduino - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:35:07] <exec> 08└─Of course I meant "An English speaker" - sorry, long day.
[23:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03mgcarley [2753] (Score:1) 02Money - 06In Defence of the Concept of Ownership - 1089 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:20] <exec> 08└─So if it's John Deere's tractor after the farmer forks over $150k+, then I guess that means: *It's still the farmer's money, which means he hasn't purchased a product, he's brought shares in the corporation and is entitled to dividends and/or is able to take out his money at any time on the conditio...
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