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[08:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Go full a-la carte - 06Verizon Takes Step Toward A La Carte Cable - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:23] <exec> 08└─and completely drop cable TV. Its an old paradigm and has run its course. Like Analog TV. These days, its all on the internet. In the cloud. Streamable. I am fed up with bundles where I have to accept something I have no use for in order to access something I want. The internet has done away with...
[08:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Simple. - 06Swallow Your Password - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:31] <exec> 08└─Fuck. No.
[08:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Simple. - 06Swallow Your Password - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:32] <exec> 08└─Yeah, passwords might be a pain in the ass and insecure in many situations, but at least they don't necessarily lead to a privacy nightmare like most of the alternatives do.
[08:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple. - 06Swallow Your Password - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:34] <exec> 08└─Just go for the gold standard. Tattoo on the forehead. The only mark you'll need. Or so I've read.
[08:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02What Happens When ... - 06Swallow Your Password - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:36] <exec> 08└─What happens when the glucose levels or other parameters change over time ?
[08:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:What Happens When ... - 06Swallow Your Password - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:38] <exec> 08└─You lose your access until 2-3 hours after lunch.
[08:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Kill... exactly what? - 06Swallow Your Password - 828 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:39] <exec> 08└─If the stakes are high enough for the robber, instead of having your fingers chopped [news24.com]**, you may finish with: * having your eyes gouged out (retinal scan) * having your stomach ripper open (for an ingestible device) * having your skin cut in multiple places in a frantic search for an imp...
[08:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Kill... exactly what? - 06Swallow Your Password - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:41] <exec> 08└─What the hell is wrong with a passphrase?
[08:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Kill... exactly what? - 06Swallow Your Password - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:43] <exec> 08└─Voice-prints? We each have a rather unique vocal tract, which shows up in spectrum analyses. Having us "read" a "captcha" would probably do the trick. You might even say things a special way if you wanted a way to tell the machine you were under duress.
[08:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Memory upgrades? - 06Swallow Your Password - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:44] <exec> 08└─So imagine I take a course at my local community college, just because they are full of community college hotness and teachers with lots of chili peppers on "Rate my Professor and get Malware Installed". Does that mean that Windows will no longer recognize me as being me, and decline to boot? Yea!...
[08:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Unfortunately... - 06Researchers Design Material to Change Texture and Color Like Cuttlefish Do - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:48] <exec> 08└─It will require that we harvest every single cuttlefish and throw them all in vats of molten steel. But some architect will make a cool building out of it...
[08:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Limited Camouflage effect - 06Researchers Design Material to Change Texture and Color Like Cuttlefish Do - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:50] <exec> 08└─Since the material will change based on the light shining directly onto the surface, the material is limited to imitating what is in front of the camouflaged surface. True camouflage needs to imitate what is behind a surface, not what is in front. Of course, in places that have a largely uniform loo...
[08:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:0, Offtopic) 02And how do they taste? - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:57] <exec> 08└─A little like panda pancreas, with rhino horn overtones.
[08:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03sbgen [1302] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 1145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:58] <exec> 08└─I read the first link in the summary which goes to Nature News. It appears the said paper was rejected by high profile journals Nature, Cell and Science before getting published where it is due to ethical objections. One of the objectors is the guy leading SangamoBiosciences - the company that has b...
[08:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:00] <exec> 08└─It isn't clear to me what the ethical issues are, but it also seems that whoever is first to embrace the technology to enhance humans may have serious advantages over everyone else, and the process of natural selection rewards those with advantages.
[08:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:1) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:02] <exec> 08└─No, natural selection favors those who survive and reproduce. "Survival of the strongest" is the flawed reasoning used to support all too many flawed ideologies.
[08:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:04] <exec> 08└─This research will go on irrespective of ethical objections by some.
[08:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:4, Interesting) 02what are the ultimate limits? - 06First Exoplanet Visible Light Spectrum - 1469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:12:08] <exec> 08└─This summer, our probe to Pluto will give us a much closer look than is possible from our distance of mere light hours. We had to send a probe for a good look, it can't be done with our current telescope technology. Given that, I would never have thought it possible to see a planet from 50 light yea...
[08:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:what are the ultimate limits? - 06First Exoplanet Visible Light Spectrum - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:10] <exec> 08└─Well, according to TFA, its a big planet much closer to its sun: It is also regarded as the archetypal hot Jupiter — a class of planets now known to be relatively commonplace, which are similar in size and mass to Jupiter, but orbit much closer to their parent stars.
[08:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:3, Interesting) 02I'm torn... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 855 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:12:19] <exec> 08└─On one hand, I really don't want any more Google tentacles in my life. I'm already trying to extract myself from as much of the Googleverse as is practical. Still, as a victim of the Canadian cel phone triumvirate I would be VERY interested in this. if it made it into the Great White North. Right no...
[08:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm torn... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:20] <exec> 08└─Yeah, since its Nexus 6 only, you'd have to get a new phone just to try this plan. That's over 600 bucks right there last time I checked. On single line plans this might work. But those of us on family plans can get 10 or 15 or 30 gig plans for way less. Even AT&T's "Next" plan (bring your own phone...
[08:12:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm torn... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:22] <exec> 08└─things never seem to come out at what the advertised price seems to show. My favourite up here is the included voice mail package that is limited to THREE messages. If for some unholy reason you need more than that it's a further five bucks a month.
[08:12:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm torn... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:24] <exec> 08└─I'm in Canada, and pay $25 for 1GB of data, and effectively unlimited minutes and texting. ... as I use a VOIP provider and just got a tablet plan for my phone. Great deal (well, for Canada) and good quality for calls. The only bad part is that I need to use my VOIP app rather than the built in phon...
[08:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm torn... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:26] <exec> 08└─This just got me looking around and I'd never realized that Android has a full SIP client built into the phone app. Time to try that out ... I miss my integration with Tasker, etc.
[08:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm torn... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:27] <exec> 08└─Who do you use as your voip provider? Do you have to use a slim codec to stay within your 1 Gig? On mine, I use CsipSimple for calling Europe (mostly) and both ends are SIP, so I don't need a POTS gateway. Quality is astounding on Wifi or LTE, but then both ends are using pretty fat codecs.
[08:12:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Somethings unclear... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:12:29] <exec> 08└─The official release does not make it clear if you pay for data when on wifi. It kind of hints that you might because of their (somewhat mysterious, but probably just a VPN) encrypted data layer. They never officially say you Don't pay when on Wifi. Also, 10 dollars per Gig is pretty expensive. You...
[08:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Somethings unclear... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:30] <exec> 08└─It says $10 per GB for cellular data. What I want to know is, what is the point of Wi-Fi calling when you have unlimited minutes? Security?
[08:12:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Somethings unclear... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:32] <exec> 08└─It says $10 per GB for cellular data.
[08:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Somethings unclear... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 862 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:34] <exec> 08└─They claim to have nailed the "seamless transition". I'm sure the early adopters will let us know more... Project Fi works to get technology out of the way so you can communicate through whichever network type and device you're using. Wherever you're connected to Wi-Fi—whether that's at home, your...
[08:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Somethings unclear... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 1190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:36] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but the only way that can work (regardless of their uninformative info-graphic) is if the call is ALWAYS going via VOIP/SIP, most likely to Google-Voice servers. Because, otherwise, as you walk away from the coffee shop, your wifi gets weak, they would have to initiate a voice call over carrie...
[08:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Somethings unclear... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:37] <exec> 08└─Actually, if you look carefully at that animated info-graphic, you see it goes from wifi to LTE and back again. LTE is a designation for a data network, not a voice network. That info-graphic never says it goes to the carrier's voice network. In truth, LTE means long term evolution, where all voice...
[08:12:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Somethings unclear... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:40] <exec> 08└─It expands network coverage. If you're in a large office building and there's no signal, you're sad, unless you have wifi! If you're out visiting relatives in the middle of nowhere, you're sad (or paying a *ton* of money to Verizon), unless they have a cable modem and wifi! To be completely honest,...
[08:12:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03ncc74656 [4917] (Score:1) 02Re:Somethings unclear... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:42] <exec> 08└─What I want to know is, what is the point of Wi-Fi calling when you have unlimited minutes? Security?
[08:12:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:When is LlDAR coming to Google Maps? - 06Reproducing London with LIDAR - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:43] <exec> 08└─The DOOM level? Not everyday you could do the madman thing and not have any consequences ;) Though some people from those dessert countries could abuse this data.
[08:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:When is LlDAR coming to Google Maps? - 06Reproducing London with LIDAR - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:45] <exec> 08└─The DOOM level? Not everyday you could do the madman thing and not have any consequences ;)
[08:12:46] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:When is LlDAR coming to Google Maps? - 06Reproducing London with LIDAR - 127 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:47] <exec> 08└─I'm actually FAR more worried about the previous poster saying that it was created for helicoptors to put down civil unreset...
[08:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:2) 02Re:When is LlDAR coming to Google Maps? - 06Reproducing London with LIDAR - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:49] <exec> 08└─Though some people from those dessert countries could abuse this data.
[08:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02about 1 part in 10e16? - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:12:59] <exec> 08└─If I did the estimate in my head about right, thats about 1 part in 1e16? COTS GPS disciplined oscillator is like "parts per billion" so around a Hz accuracy at a couple GHz for "fancy RF analog EE stuff" is about right, so this is around a million or so times more accurate than a cheap GPSDO. So it...
[08:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:about 1 part in 10e16? - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:01] <exec> 08└─For what its worth, the stability in the Efratom Rubidium Atomic Clocks [to-way.com](62 page PDF) (GPS) runs around +/-5E-10 per year....
[08:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Nice clock you got there, have you seen my gravity - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:03] <exec> 08└─The problem when clocks are this accurate is that differences in height and gravity due tectonic plate differences will make known phenomena like time being local painfully obvious. There simple isn't any global time at this precision. Some serious head scratching and rethink is needed on issues lik...
[08:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nice clock you got there, have you seen my grav - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:04] <exec> 08└─you have signaled your intelligence
[08:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Meaningless math - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:06] <exec> 08└─Another fine example of meaningless math. I'm willing to bet that this clock will suffer some sort of failure much before 15 billion years pass, if only because of the extinction of the human race meaning it no longer gets serviced. But I'm willing to bet that some component fails long before that h...
[08:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Meaningless math - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:08] <exec> 08└─what is even the point of calculating such a number?
[08:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03throwaway28 [5181] (Score:1) 02About 1 in 4 * 10^17 or so ? - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:10] <exec> 08└─Someone will probably trip over the power cord in 2 to 3 years. So, a statement like "within 10^-10 seconds over the expected lifetime of the clock", would probably be more accurate.
[08:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 020.15 nsec/year error is pretty decent - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:11] <exec> 08└─The bad news is, nobody will able to figure out the DST calculations rso everything will be presented +/- 3.6e12 nsecs.
[08:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Dr. Sara Campbell is cool - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:13] <exec> 08└─I attended a talk on this new clock by Dr. Campbell, one of the coauthors, at a steampunk convention in Denver a few weeks ago. The tech is really cool, but what was particularly wonderful was her ability to break down such a sophisticated topic into terms that a roomful of literature geeks could un...
[08:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Dr. Sara Campbell is cool - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:15] <exec> 08└─Congratulations, you've volunteered to explain how this maintains time in a world with relativity! One of these clocks on one side of the planet will be ticking at a different speed from one at the other side of the planet, as one's moving faster than the centre of the earth, and the other's moving...
[08:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02Re:More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:20] <exec> 08└─Darwin strikes again !
[08:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:22] <exec> 08└─Want to come back in and try that again?
[08:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2, Flamebait) 02Re:Islamic Reformation Needed - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:27] <exec> 08└─Islam needs an internal reformation...
[08:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03demonlapin [925] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Islamic Reformation Needed - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:29] <exec> 08└─People tend to forget that the bloodiest war Americans ever fought was with each other over the fate of a group of people that neither side particularly cared for. A self-righteously angry America is an existential threat of epic proportions.
[08:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Update to story - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:31] <exec> 08└─So why was it modded troll if the pattern is not just significant, but documented and studied by many sources?
[08:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Update to story - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:32] <exec> 08└─It was modded troll because it's a troll post because it was modded troll? The hell good did your comment do? Combination of tautology and a tight-loop circular logic gets you +2 xkcd points but -10 for logic.
[08:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Insightful) 02Re:Update to story - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:34] <exec> 08└─And you want Christian law in Islamic countries. What was your point again? That Muslims are evil because they don't follow your way of life? You sound like a religious extremist.
[08:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Update to story - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:36] <exec> 08└─Actually, I'm just thinking of one law in particular -- "Thou Shalt Not Kill"
[08:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03_1156277 [5139] (Score:1) 02Re:Extend the idea - 06New Super-Fast MRI Technique Demonstrated with Song 'If I Only Had a Brain' - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:01] <exec> 08└─Not very likely unless we come up with a way to generate powerful homogeneous magnetic fields with a hand-held device :-)
[08:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:22] <exec> 08└─For instance, If I have a website, let's call it BookFace, and I let you use it for free* because I make money by selling your personal information for money than you/(your information) are/(is) the product. You can say they are consumers/(products), it becomes an argument of semantics and pedantics...
[08:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:23] <exec> 08└─Using proper terms clarifies the relationships: The product is the web site (or the TV channel), and more specifically the Ad slots. The consumer is you and me The customer is the advertiser. The customer buys the product at the value set based on the consumer's exposure. Now, some consumers can als...
[08:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:25] <exec> 08└─I am a citizen, not a consumer.
[08:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:28] <exec> 08└─If ABP were a honorable company, there wouldn't be such a huge exemption list, or you could sign up to allow their exemptions in exchange for part of the proceeds. (The largest part I might add, since users pay the bandwidth, electrical, and inconvenience costs of ads, while ABP pockets their "prote...
[08:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:30] <exec> 08└─I'm just saying the premise of advertising on "your" screen has precedent.
[08:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:38] <exec> 08└─I would not care if there were ads on the pages I visit if that is all they were. I do not believe anyone really ever did. Internet advertisers seem to feel that not only are they entitled to show us their ads, but also that they are entitled to track us all over the internet.
[08:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:39] <exec> 08└─Why should the internet be any different?
[08:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:41] <exec> 08└─You make some very good points, but they can pretty much all be condensed down to a frustrated "why should the internet be different?". I think we're perhaps in violent agreement on this matter.
[08:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 1268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:43] <exec> 08└─Probably so; I was using your comment as a starting point, rather than attempt to refute anything said. The gist of my view is that, for better or worse, internet advertising is different than what's come before it because it expects more control (running executable code, requiring attention, etc.)...
[08:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:45] <exec> 08└─They pay the newspapers to carry their adverts, they do not pay you. They pay the football clubs to carry their adverts around their stadia, they do not pay you. At no point in the past has the final viewer of the advertisement been paid to view it.
[08:14:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:Advertisement in general is poison - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 1241 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:46] <exec> 08└─The only strong argument I can make in favor of advertising is some folks need an outlet for certain energies or behaviors. Its kinda like pr0n in that way. So if you didn't have job positions for liars and crooks to make advertising, they'd get jobs somewhere more important and F that all up. Would...
[08:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Advertisement in general is poison - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:50] <exec> 08└─Say one nontrivial thing that's true. It's bullshit half truths all the way down. Bullshit half truths are the currency of the human race. They're the substitute for the deeper truths we try to connect with but fail to attain. For me personally, advertising works like simulated annealing: sure most...
[08:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Now Fix API Licenses - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:56] <exec> 08└─Idiots are no friends of mine. Just ignore them.
[08:14:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03acharax [4264] 02Re:Problem isn't ads but tracking - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 793 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:00] <exec> 08└─Tracking isn't the only real issue with ads, ad firms are prime vectors for driveby malware installs and have been so for a very, very long time because they don't care what gets distributed through their networks (and refusing to be held responsible for any resulting damages) as long as they get pa...
[08:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Integrate ClamAV into browser? - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:02] <exec> 08└─Isn't it a crime to distribute malware? So you could have ClamAV look over all your ads, then if it finds some malware it files an automated report with CERT.
[08:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Have some compassion - 06Twitter Fights Trolls, Invites Trolls, and Trolls U.S. - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:41] <exec> 08└─They are just words that hardly ever have any meaningful action behind them. Jail however brands someone a criminal every time, limits their employment opportunities for the rest of their lives, and brings higher scrutiny with any government interactions leading to a higher chance of being incarcera...
[08:16:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:14] <exec> 08└─You're possibly experiencing the joy of PulseAudio. I deleted it from my system without consequence because most applications requiring sound connect to ALSA (the next tier down in the software stack) if PulseAudio is not found. I wish I had a handgun.
[08:17:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03morgauxo [2082] 02I'd rather see - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 962 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:17:01] <exec> 08└─I'd rather see them split along service lines than limited geographically. Most communities only get one cable company anyway. City councils want to limit the number of lines ran so that means we don't get competition. Limiting Comcast geographically isn't going to give anybody competition. It just...
[08:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Something not considered - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:36] <exec> 08└─And I saw two collisions in 30 seconds on a roundabout, with no one going above a crawl. Why? Because the street was solid ice, and on an icy road, the more you have to turn, the more chance of losing control. The reason roundabouts came into existence wasn't because they're all-around better for th...
[08:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:18:11] <exec> 08└─It's problematic that you use the word Problematic in such a problematic way. It's practically a microaggression which in itself is such a microaggressive word to use to describe microaggressions.
[08:18:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:18:13] <exec> 08└─You really think people shouldn't be allowed to use a different name in different contexts, Mr Runaway1956? Wouldn't it just be easier to respect their right to call themselves whatever they like?
[08:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Re:We will always have people - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:18:17] <exec> 08└─Regarding CRUD [wikipedia.org], I'm leaning towards the notion that reading data is the most devastating. You argue that subtle, malicious modification would dominate where backups are insufficient. However, unauthorized reads may have an adverse effect which exceeds the value of the organization.
[08:18:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:One question to ask is why are there so many no - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 394 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:18:22] <exec> 08└─The sure sign that it is "finally getting better" is that there will be masses of NSA, CIA, Congressmen, and Wall Street bankers going to jail or to the guillotine. We're not seeing that happen. What we are seeing are the 1% about to dance on our graves with their ultimate victory in the TPP and pol...
[08:18:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02UCSC Physics David Dorfan on writer's block - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:00] <exec> 08└─"Drink an entire bottle of wine then start writing your thesis." Let's just say that wouldn't work for me.
[08:19:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:20] <exec> 08└─In exchange for making less, if they're working for a larger company, there is less risk of the company going out of business and the larger the business, the better negotiating power they have for things like retirement plans (401k) and health insurance. Also, the larger the company, the more likel...
[08:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:25] <exec> 08└─If it's not the general trend, why the lack of sympathy when it fails?
[08:19:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:What's with this "get ahead"? - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:38] <exec> 08└─I have a friend who I suspect is taking Adderall. He didn't admit it to me, but he admitted that he took uppers in the past to help job performance and school learning. Although I believe it's a personal choice whether or not people take drugs, he knows I don't like the idea. What's interesting is t...
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[09:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Kill... exactly what? - 06Swallow Your Password - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:41] <exec> 08└─That would work if the captcha is entirely known to the system and it would need full knowledge of the captcha for it to recognize your duress. These days, this does not necessarily hold true. Haven't you noticed that website shows captchas that exist of 2 pieces: one which is known and another whic...
[09:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Memory upgrades? - 06Swallow Your Password - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:43] <exec> 08└─Does that mean that Windows will no longer recognize me as being me, and decline to boot?
[09:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OK, what next? - 06Swallow Your Password - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:11:44] <exec> 08└─Alright then, read the headline, swallowed my Password. What do I do now? Guys? I need to log in! How am I supposed to get my password? It was always right there on the post-it-note on the bottom the keyboard, but now you told me to swallow it!!! Wait a minute! Is this like that Frogger dashboard b...
[09:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:what are the ultimate limits? - 06First Exoplanet Visible Light Spectrum - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:14] <exec> 08└─hope we still have can invent the technology to receive its signal in the distant future.
[09:12:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02looks like jupiter... - 06First Exoplanet Visible Light Spectrum - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:12:15] <exec> 08└─Blimey, it looks just like Jupiter, but without the big red spot! You can even clearly see the shadow line drawn on its surface by 51 Pegasi, and some of the cloud bands! ... no, wait, that's the "artist's impression", isn't it? There's no crude graph made with GNUplot of the intensities of its spec...
[09:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:25] <exec> 08└─A lot of the security in the form of road blocks and so on during the Iraq conflict had the express purpose of making bombers nervous. It's far better to have someone panic and set off their bomb early, when there will be few casualties, than it is to allow them to get it somewhere where it's surrou...
[09:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:28] <exec> 08└─This will be marked down as a win for mass-surveillance of the population in France, as otherwise, the individual would never have been found prior to completing his mission.
[09:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Islamic Reformation Needed - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:34] <exec> 08└─there would be no war as we in the West tend not to start them
[09:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:20] <exec> 08└─...My wife uses Mint on her Dell laptop...
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[10:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:Go full a-la carte - 06Verizon Takes Step Toward A La Carte Cable - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:11:45] <exec> 08└─Remember: if the content providers won't offer it at the right price, bittorrent pirates will.
[10:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:12:27] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, you are most likely correct. Get your Clone Wars tickets now, folks, while supplies last.
[10:13:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] 02Re:More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 937 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:51] <exec> 08└─> That adds to the evidence that, in the fight to protect people, massive surveillance and specialists' judgment calls are often no match for the sheer dumbness of many criminals (too bad not all are quite so dumb). You don't need to compare it to the dumbness of criminals: it's just still more evid...
[10:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:53] <exec> 08└─Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence
[10:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:54] <exec> 08└─Off to the re-education camps with you, 'citizen'... Repeat after me: "All glory to our corporate overlords!"
[10:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:59] <exec> 08└─Now I understand that neither of those things are "free" anymore, but that used to be the premise, anyway.
[10:15:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Problem isn't manipulations but tracking - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:31] <exec> 08└─Running FireFox in "stealth mode" with AdBlock, NoScript, Ghostery, and other extensions is a way to stop third parties from tracking you. That's the real issue here.
[10:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:43] <exec> 08└─What the heck distro are you guys using and what are you trying to do with it?
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[11:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Metaphor overload - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:11:39] <exec> 08└─Woah, easy on the metaphors. Rapid7, the flingers of...
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[12:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:24] <exec> 08└─34% of people believe the climate is always the same? /sarcasm off
[12:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Move it outside the US - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 1182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:32] <exec> 08└─The US is just determined to shoot it's tech industry in both feet, not to mention in the heart and the head. It wasn't enough that the NSA has been intercepting shipments of network equipment and installing backdoors. It isn't enough that they have been spying on essentially everyone, with no legal...
[12:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Micro$oft windoze is a CYBERWEAPON! - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:34] <exec> 08└─After all it enables the brown people to attack the civilized corporations, ergo it needs to be export restricted.
[12:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Micro$oft windoze is a CYBERWEAPON! - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:36] <exec> 08└─Please do it. And MacOS as well. Then finally there will be the year of Linux on the (non-US) desktop!
[12:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Simple. - 06Swallow Your Password - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:54] <exec> 08└─Yeah, passwords might be a pain in the ass
[12:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Rectium? - 06Swallow Your Password - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:04] <exec> 08└─Looks like it's time to recycle a golden oldie https://www.gnu.org [gnu.org]
[12:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03naubol [1918] (Score:2) 02This argument, really? - 06Swallow Your Password - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:05] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't insurance companies love to use the data off your fitbit? Don't life insurance companies already take blood? What about your "steps per day" from your phone, or your quotidien travel habits? I have an idea, let's all be paranoid luddites every time some new tech concept is discussed. Electr...
[12:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And how do they taste? - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:22] <exec> 08└─The Chairman demands more Mayo!
[12:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:26] <exec> 08└─natural selection = survive and reproduce. = "Survival of the strongest" It's not reasoning but definition.
[12:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:30] <exec> 08└─While true it's neither a recommendation to carry on the said research or a reason to accept it anywhere. One parallel that comes to mind is the torture methods and policies developed by United States, partially based on those used by Vietnamese on captured US prisoners of war.
[12:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm torn... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:54] <exec> 08└─I'm using Fongo, and must admit I don't use voice calling much. It seems pretty slim though, maybe 1MB/minute?
[12:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Meaningless math - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:33] <exec> 08└─I mean honestly what is even the point of calculating such a number?
[12:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03mvdwege [3388] (Score:1) 02Re:More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:55] <exec> 08└─Who says they weren't waiting for him to start making his move before arresting him, and were pre-empted by the gun accident?
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[13:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:39] <exec> 08└─There seem to be some very odd numbers in that poll, with some of the results looking like they are at odds with others. Some of that can be put down to being ill-informed - e.g. about the level of disgreement amongst scientists - and some are clearly driven more by the environment than the climate...
[13:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:40] <exec> 08└─I wonder what the p-values [soylentnews.org] are...
[13:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:42] <exec> 08└─There are lies, damned lies and statistics ...
[13:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:43] <exec> 08└─... and of course, the Ameritard public.
[13:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 944 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:45] <exec> 08└─Well, it seems like the poll used the term "global warming" rather than "climate change", so this snarky response doesn't quite apply. The highlights for me: - There is a strong public perception that there's actually a serious scientific debate about this. I think John Oliver was on to something wh...
[13:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Believe vs Accept - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:47] <exec> 08└─There's a big difference between using the phrasing 'believe in' and 'accept the current scientific consensus'. I think this matters when the question is asked. With 'believe', you can have morons claiming that "well, I can believe whatever I want regardless of what you say and you can believe just...
[13:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Metaphor overload - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:55] <exec> 08└─juggs must be banned from writing. For the sake of humanity.
[13:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Micro$oft windoze is a CYBERWEAPON! - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:59] <exec> 08└─...only without systemd, which of course is a RedHat product and hence from the US. That may be for the better, except that alternatives for stuff now subsumed into systemd are looking thin on the ground and possibly not maintained - e.g. ConsoleKit. Bigger problem is the much of GNU is at least par...
[13:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03cykros [989] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Only foreign governments/military targets - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:12:00] <exec> 08└─UNLESS the user is a non-US or non-Canadian government agency (or is otherwise ineligible to receive the products without approval from the US Department of Commerce), the request will be fulfilled.
[13:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So the US and Canadian government are also exclude - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:12:02] <exec> 08└─UNLESS the user is a non-US or non-Canadian government agency
[13:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This argument, really? - 06Swallow Your Password - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:33] <exec> 08└─The insurance company argument is just used to illustrate one potential unintended consequence of gathering personal data just to do commerce. It's called "discussion". Oh, and if you're gonna try sound smart by replacing "daily" with "quotidian", at least spell it right.
[13:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:56] <exec> 08└─> It's not reasoning but definition. Only if you define fertility as strength.
[13:12:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 1191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:57] <exec> 08└─Incorrect. It is 'survival of the fittest'- not 'survival of the strongest', and that is an important distinction. Lets say you have two competing genetic branches of lizard. The lizard in question gets in lethal fights ~1:6 during its lifespan, resources are plentiful but energy intensive to gather...
[13:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:59] <exec> 08└─Had to mod overrated, because nowhere did GP state anything about survival of the strongest - he only mentioned advantages, and clearly in the sense of "survival of the fittest" advantages (at least there is no indication that it is not meant so). Therefore GP appears to be factually entirely correc...
[13:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 1237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:02] <exec> 08└─It's only unfortunate, if the ethical objections are on valid and rational grounds. That fails in this case. First, the objection is not for actual harm incurred, but potential harm which is never explicitly described. We have no means at this time to determine whether the harm is great enough to ju...
[13:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's coming to OpenStreetMap the day you build it! - 06Reproducing London with LIDAR - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:49] <exec> 08└─https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop [openstreetmap.org]
[13:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dr. Sara Campbell is cool - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:15] <exec> 08└─One of these clocks on one side of the planet will be ticking at a different speed from one at the other side of the planet
[13:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:28] <exec> 08└─Wonder if any bombs have been triggered by telemarketer calls?
[13:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:35] <exec> 08└─Something tells me they'd have done a better job of it. A conspiracy to gain power for themselves by looking like better-armed Keystone Cops doesn't seem productive.
[13:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:38] <exec> 08└─If he's "making his move", then he's already armed, armored, and expecting police intervention. That's a good way to end up with a lot of dead cops and bystanders.
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[14:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't fall asleep - 06Draw Biosensors on Your Skin - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:22] <exec> 08└─at a UCSD frat party or researchers will draw biosensors in the shape of a dick on your forehead.
[14:11:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:34] <exec> 08└─I wonder what the pee-values are...
[14:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:36] <exec> 08└─...Save your money, don't go to the show
[14:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:40] <exec> 08└─> 34% of people believe the climate is always the same? In the pedantry race to the bottom, you have triumphed over wonkey_monkey! That's the sporting event where the onlookers are the real losers.
[14:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:42] <exec> 08└─There's something weird going on with some of the states too. For example, Wyoming supposedly has 53% for "Estimated % of adults who support setting strict CO2 limits on existing coal-fired power plants, 2014" as a congressional district (it is a single congressional district due to the low populati...
[14:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:Believe vs Accept - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:43] <exec> 08└─The summary doesn't talk about people "accepting" the scientific consensus -- it talks about whether people believe the scientists have a consensus.
[14:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gravity poll - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:45] <exec> 08└─I wonder what kind of numbers these guys would get...
[14:11:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Move it outside the US - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 1182 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:54] <exec> 08└─The US is just determined to shoot it's tech industry in both feet, not to mention in the heart and the head. It wasn't enough that the NSA has been intercepting shipments of network equipment and installing backdoors. It isn't enough that they have been spying on essentially everyone, with no legal...
[14:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02non-US free software is alive and well. - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:58] <exec> 08└─There are systemd-free Linux distros. Some of them are even commercially distributed and supported. And a lot of the software that has been "subsumed" by systemd still exists as source code. And a lot of that activity is based outside the US. Much of the US-written free software has already been exp...
[14:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:So the US and Canadian government are also excl - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:01] <exec> 08└─Isn't there a jointly administered lighthouse somewhere that was established by treaty? It would be both a US and Canadian government agency. I seem to remember reading the treaty itself once in an idle moment in a library. Presumably it would be non-excluded. -- hendrik
[14:12:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02Go full a-la carte - 06Verizon Takes Step Toward A La Carte Cable - 626 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:08] <exec> 08└─and completely drop cable TV. Its an old paradigm and has run its course. Like Analog TV. These days, its all on the internet. In the cloud. Streamable. I am fed up with bundles where I have to accept something I have no use for in order to access something I want. The internet has done away with...
[14:12:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Kell [292] 02Re:Go full a-la carte - 06Verizon Takes Step Toward A La Carte Cable - 94 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:10] <exec> 08└─Remember: if the content providers won't offer it at the right price, bittorrent pirates will.
[14:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Avoid the sports - 06Verizon Takes Step Toward A La Carte Cable - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:12] <exec> 08└─avoid the sports channels altogether.
[14:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Avoid the sports - 06Verizon Takes Step Toward A La Carte Cable - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:14] <exec> 08└─The most out-of-shape people I see are usually hanging out at the "sports bars".
[14:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple. - 06Swallow Your Password - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:23] <exec> 08└─Shouldn't that Mark be on the head and right arm? And be necessary to engage in commerce?
[14:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Kill... exactly what? - 06Swallow Your Password - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:31] <exec> 08└─Voice-prints?
[14:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:This argument, really? - 06Swallow Your Password - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:38] <exec> 08└─You kid, but "paranoid luddite" really seems to be the best, safest approach to new technologies in this era.
[14:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:01] <exec> 08└─natural selection = survive and reproduce
[14:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Somethings unclear... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:41] <exec> 08└─10 dollars per Gig is pretty expensive It is fairly in line with what other providers are charging. Which is not surprising as they are on top of other peoples networks. They are an MVNO with a decent contract with the providers they resell thru. The refund thing is an interesting twist. Basically t...
[14:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wake me - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:04] <exec> 08└─How on earth do they know that?
[14:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Meaningless math - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:16] <exec> 08└─I too am only concerned about what time my watch will show in 15 billion years. I fear it may well be off by more than a second.
[14:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Re:Dr. Sara Campbell is cool - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:22] <exec> 08└─That's actually the whole point. This isn't for keeping time over billions of years. It is for measuring really tiny variations in timing at different locations. Among other things, it could increase accuracy of GPS by an order of magnitude. It can also be used to help measure space time curvature a...
[14:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Islamic Reformation Needed - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:51] <exec> 08└─In Latest Book, Ayaan Hirsi Ali Says Reform Is The Best Weapon Against Radical Islam
[14:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:01] <exec> 08└─In fact, I would even extend this to: I wouldn't care at all about ads, except that the advertisers are scammers and spammers, every single one of them. Pop-up ads, then pop-under ads, flash ads, ads that put a panel over the content. Pages with one paragraph per page to increase ad hits. Unskippabl...
[14:16:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:They have it backwards - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:04] <exec> 08└─I've never considered AdBlock/NoScript/not-even-installing-a-flash-player/rejecting-3rd-party-cookies/ "war". I've simply built a fence, and they can't get over it. I'm determined to remain the master of my domain.
[14:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Advertisement in general is poison - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:14] <exec> 08└─Say one nontrivial thing that's true.
[14:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Have some compassion - 06Twitter Fights Trolls, Invites Trolls, and Trolls U.S. - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:04] <exec> 08└─I'm advocating jail time for people who say something along the lines of: "I'm going to kill you, John Smith, who lives at 123 Elm St, Springfield, Kansas, with his wife Lisa and his daughters Sarah and Mary, who usually leaves for work at 8:25 AM ..." That reasonably leaves John Smith fearing for h...
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[15:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't fall asleep - 06Draw Biosensors on Your Skin - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:27] <exec> 08└─Completely invisible, but glows green when it senses you talking to a gurl
[15:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't fall asleep - 06Draw Biosensors on Your Skin - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:31] <exec> 08└─So it doesn't glow, then?
[15:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gravity poll - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:49] <exec> 08└─Public opinion of a very well-established science vs. public opinion of a very young science?
[15:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Metaphor overload - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:02] <exec> 08└─He just needs a few hours relax and read text published somewhere other than El Reg and he'll be back to understandable.
[15:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Move it outside the US - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:06] <exec> 08└─So now it's back to the bad-old-days of export restrictions on encryption, because no one else in the world is capable of encrypting things?
[15:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Move it outside the US - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:08] <exec> 08└─There is the possibility of a major issue arising in EU/US business relations. EU data protection regulations require that any customer information moved outside the EEA can only do so if the jurisdiction it's sent to provides equal or better data protection legislation. The US solution to this prob...
[15:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02New security system - 06Swallow Your Password - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:12:52] <exec> 08└─My password is encoded in my semen. If you want access to my account you can suck my dick.
[15:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03MeatBacon [4373] (Score:1) 02Shape Memory Alloy - 06Researchers Design Material to Change Texture and Color Like Cuttlefish Do - 779 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:03] <exec> 08└─Shape Memory alloys, like Nitinol, are not a one-time-deal. They are usually formed into the shape desired, then heat-treated. After that, heating the alloy causes it to return to the shape it was heat-treated in. Thus, eyeglass frames are made into their final shape, heat-treated, and when you sit...
[15:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03middlemen [504] (Score:2) 02Re:And how do they taste? - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:12] <exec> 08└─The Chairman demands more Mayo!
[15:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:21] <exec> 08└─While you work out at the gym being "the strongest," I'll be at your house banging your wife. Ever wonder why your kids don't look like you?
[15:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If this is the most accurate clock - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:41] <exec> 08└─How do they know the real time? Averages? Pixie dust?
[15:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Islamic Reformation Needed - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:11] <exec> 08└─The louder we shout that it is Islam itself that is the problem, the more we strengthen the very radicals we want to weaken. Nothing rallies the other side like declaring them all evil.
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[16:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:3, Insightful) 02the questions - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:25] <exec> 08└─The question isn't whether he damaged U.S. interests abroad; it's whether that damage is worth it to try to make our government better. It's easy to say, "He betrayed the U.S.! BURN HIM!" It's much harder to explain to people why he did it.
[16:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Well - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:26] <exec> 08└─At least this time they had the decency to spell out who they were painting with the "millennial brush". Nothing here is surprising though, the younger a person is, generally the more native their grasp of the technology of the day is. Also generally, the more anti-authoritarian they are. Similarly,...
[16:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:28] <exec> 08└─Who cares what older Americans think about Snowden? They created a country that is ridiculously in debt, with a police state that they did not inherit. It wasn't the "millennials" senators' that voted for the patriot act, but the millennials are going to have the nearly impossible task of removing i...
[16:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02No - 06Draw Biosensors on Your Skin - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:39] <exec> 08└─Draw Biosensors on Your Skin
[16:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Believe vs Accept - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:57] <exec> 08└─And I'd also say that "believe" and "accept" are so close you can't meaningfully distinguish them in this context. At least that's the stance that Popper took with regard to scientific beliefs and "facts".
[16:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Gravity poll - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:01] <exec> 08└─Public opinion of a very well-established science vs. public opinion of a very young science?
[16:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Gravity poll - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:03] <exec> 08└─Gravity science is a very young science? What gave you that idea?
[16:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03juggs [63] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Metaphor overload - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:14] <exec> 08└─Guilty as charged m'lud.
[16:12:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] 02Re:Move it outside the US - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 140 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:16] <exec> 08└─So now it's back to the bad-old-days of export restrictions on encryption, because no one else in the world is capable of encrypting things?
[16:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ox0000 [5111] (Score:1) 02Re:This argument, really? - 06Swallow Your Password - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:01] <exec> 08└─Dear healthcare consumer, We have noticed that your 'quotidian' amount of steps is less than we'd like. We _care_ about you and would suggest you take steps (ahum) to rectify this. To give you some more incentive, you will no longer be covered for any type of healthcare unless you rectify this situa...
[16:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:29] <exec> 08└─_OR_ The larger slower smarter hunters will have a free lunch every day, and the lethal fight rate for the cute fluffy ones will approach 1:1. Keeping that ratio constant whilst everything else was changing is just absurd.
[16:14:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02More details... - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 346 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:57] <exec> 08└─he was under surveillance after he "vanished" a week in Turkey last year, but the police apparently didn't have actionable elements. That adds to the evidence that, in the fight to protect people, massive surveillance and specialists' judgment calls are often no match for the sheer dumbness of many...
[16:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Islamic Reformation Needed - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:19] <exec> 08└─"Maybe she has detected an improvement in the lives of muslim girls in the past decade.." I just so happen to have a vast tract of swamp land in New Mexico to sell you. Don't worry the US Government won't get any taxes from it as it's located in Mexico...
[16:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Advertisement in general is poison - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:40] <exec> 08└─Maybe you underestimate your resistance to pseudoscientific brainwashing waves. I see lots of people refer to how much money companies spend on advertising research, but they've never proven that the specific people they're replying to are actually susceptible to advertising. Yes, some people are di...
[16:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Problem isn't manipulations but tracking - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:55] <exec> 08└─There are also extensions to disrupt the fingerprinting nonsense, which I use.
[16:16:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Problem isn't manipulations but tracking - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:57] <exec> 08└─Please elaborate because I would like to add them to my list of extensions to run (not trolling, genuinely asking)
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[17:11:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tangomargarine [667] 02the questions - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 240 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:26] <exec> 08└─The question isn't whether he damaged U.S. interests abroad; it's whether that damage is worth it to try to make our government better. It's easy to say, "He betrayed the U.S.! BURN HIM!" It's much harder to explain to people why he did it.
[17:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:the questions - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:29] <exec> 08└─"U.S. interests" are not the interests of the public, but are the interests of the elites and military industrial complex. The real question is how effective the latest spooky threat (ISIL) has been at convincing the public to give up all rights. Of the Americans that bother paying attention to the...
[17:11:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] 02Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 525 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:33] <exec> 08└─Who cares what older Americans think about Snowden? They created a country that is ridiculously in debt, with a police state that they did not inherit. It wasn't the "millennials" senators' that voted for the patriot act, but the millennials are going to have the nearly impossible task of removing i...
[17:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:37] <exec> 08└─you are young, I can tell. come back in 20 yrs when YOUR generation has 'ruined the world'. it will happen. you are not special even though you guys get 'awards and trophies' for just existing, while in school. your generation will make the world a MUCH worse place, that much I am quite sure of. if...
[17:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:50] <exec> 08└─Many of the millenials will likely turn out to be fuckups of absolutely COLOSSAL proportions, but CirclesInSand is not wrong about the older generations being (mostly) responsible for the state of US government today. Just because that generation will make their own mistakes doesn't mean that previo...
[17:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:00] <exec> 08└─Y'know, if your best retort to the accusation that your generation made things worse is that the next generation won't be any better, maybe you shouldn't be retorting.
[17:12:02] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 1692 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:10] <exec> 08└─I've read definitions of millennial that based on my birth year included me, but now way in hell I'd be lumped in with those impotent punks. Although I am 100% in favor of what Snowden and other leakers/whistleblowers do, that is the only thing I have in common with Millennial punks. Millenial punks...
[17:12:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:16] <exec> 08└─You're not wrong. But not because of people like the GP. I suspect they sincerely want to address the systemic issues. You can see the assholes on facebook who are going to drag our generation down. Blindly re-posting vaguely political memes without concern for critical evaluation. They're going to...
[17:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:20] <exec> 08└─The problem is that the older generations vote, and the millenials (mostly) don't. So the only opinion that counts in government circles is that of the older generations. The sad and inevitable result of the US's first-past-the-post voting system is that only the largest voting bloc's opinion matter...
[17:12:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:26] <exec> 08└─Please stop this "massive debt" nonsense, and start understanding how fiat money works. The problem isn't debt, its that the money that is created mostly comes from banks to finance gambling in the financial sector without adding real value. Much better if that money had gone directly to the low and...
[17:12:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:32] <exec> 08└─The millenials are making the world for selfies and file sharing!
[17:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Snowden, gay marriage, miscegenation, electricity. - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:35] <exec> 08└─The phrase "Except for the current young generation, most Americans dislike X" has had a LOT of valid answers for X over the years.
[17:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:3, Interesting) 02"US national security" vs. "doing the right thing" - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 829 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:39] <exec> 08└─The question is not "did Snowden hurt US security" - I don't think it's in question that he did - the first question is "Did Snowden do the right thing by blowing the whistle on the US government doing things ranging from shady to outright unconstitutional?" I think the answer to that one is, also,...
[17:12:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:"US national security" vs. "doing the right thi - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:42] <exec> 08└─The longer we go without one, the more likely it is that the government has cleaned up their act
[17:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03SrLnclt [1473] (Score:3, Insightful) 02They May Be Right - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 1478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:45] <exec> 08└─While I strongly support Snowden and what he has done, at this point they might be right. He tried to start a national debate on privacy vs. security, and to some degree succeeded. There are three ways things can go from here - the pendulum can swing toward personal rights and privacy, it can swing...
[17:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:3, Insightful) 02I don't think the older generation understands... - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:48] <exec> 08└─Snowden was on John Olliver's show a few weeks ago, and they made a good point about how unless you have years of IT experience/training, you can't even comprehend what can be done with the data they are sucking up. People actually think that this is the only thing preventing another 9/11 type attac...
[17:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Newsmax? - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:52] <exec> 08└─Seriously?
[17:12:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Newsmax? - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:55] <exec> 08└─http://hughpickens.com/ [hughpickens.com]
[17:12:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Lets go datamining - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:59] <exec> 08└─What does opinion of Snowden correlate with? After reading /Climate-Science Communication and the Measurement Problem/ by Dan M. Kahan from Yale University the other day, I wanna see what else they hold true.
[17:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I like snowden - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:02] <exec> 08└─He has the correct spirit of cooperation which binds us towards a common goal. The current people in charge on the other hand apparently want people to shoot them by acting like evil cartoon characters.
[17:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Move it outside the US - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:05] <exec> 08└─o now it's back to the bad-old-days of export restrictions on encryption,
[17:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Only foreign governments/military targets - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:09] <exec> 08└─Doesn't sound like they're actually going quite as far as the old PGP restrictions did,
[17:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Four Dollars a Month - 06Verizon Takes Step Toward A La Carte Cable - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:24] <exec> 08└─ESPN gets four dollars a month from your average cable subscription, where most channels only get between fifteen and twenty cents. All for what? So Tony Kornheiser can bloviate about millionaire athletes?
[17:13:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Kill... exactly what? - 06Swallow Your Password - 828 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:37] <exec> 08└─If the stakes are high enough for the robber, instead of having your fingers chopped [news24.com]**, you may finish with: * having your eyes gouged out (retinal scan) * having your stomach ripper open (for an ingestible device) * having your skin cut in multiple places in a frantic search for an imp...
[17:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OK, what next? - 06Swallow Your Password - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:45] <exec> 08└─If you accidentally swallow your password, just shit on your keyboard.
[17:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:2) 02New Model - 06Swallow Your Password - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:55] <exec> 08└─You know how when you buy a car with a fancy navigation system you run the risk of it being obsolete in two years. Am I going to have to have invasive surgery to remove my passcode manually, or will Hermes famous Jerk Prunes/Caribbean Drano work?
[17:14:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sbgen [1302] 02Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 1145 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:13] <exec> 08└─I read the first link in the summary which goes to Nature News. It appears the said paper was rejected by high profile journals Nature, Cell and Science before getting published where it is due to ethical objections. One of the objectors is the guy leading SangamoBiosciences - the company that has b...
[17:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Islamic Reformation Needed - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:13] <exec> 08└─Bible Based Christian perspective on the Middle East and the End Times. "http://www.amazingfacts.org/news-and-features/af-blog/id/1429/a-spiritual-upheaval.aspx"
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[18:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:39] <exec> 08└─> Both the bartender and I shrugged as he solemnly handed my my drink and I moved away. Lol. Based on the incoherent screeds of hate you are known for posting here, I have a strong suspicion that your actions in your version of the story are more than just a little toned down. I mean, the fact that...
[18:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:41] <exec> 08└─You might be correct that there is more to the story, but to EF's defense I have several siblings that fit squarely into the Millennial age bracket (10+ year age gap between me and them) and they would definitely behave as EF said. And they would do it with less provocation that EF admitted to. If I...
[18:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:43] <exec> 08└─"Excuse me"
[18:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 2422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:45] <exec> 08└─First off not the original AC. 20 years probably wont be enough time for the melenials to have ruined the world. Taking the definition as from the TFS of 18 to 34 yo (born 1981-1997), and noting that the average age of a member of the US house is 57 US (Senate is 63) then the melianls will not be wi...
[18:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:46] <exec> 08└─your generation will make the world a MUCH worse place, that much I am quite sure of.
[18:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:48] <exec> 08└─pay debnts
[18:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Most Soylentals Dislike Scab Pickens - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:57] <exec> 08└─Except for the powers that be here that ban anyone who dares disagree
[18:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02"Damaged national security" - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:00] <exec> 08└─So how exactly has national security been damaged? Have we experienced an increase in terrorist attacks since Snowden? Blackmail, cyberattacks, or physical attacks from foreign countries? Enemy nations exploiting national secrets to do... things... scary things?
[18:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gravity poll - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:34] <exec> 08└─Science still hasn't figured out how gravity works. "Unambiguous detection of individual gravitons, though not prohibited by any fundamental law, is impossible with any physically reasonable detector." "However, experiments to detect gravitational waves, which may be viewed as coherent states of man...
[18:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:So the US and Canadian government are also excl - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:58] <exec> 08└─Further, the announcement reads: Due to increasing US and international regulatory restrictions... It could just as well have been potential EU sanctions that the are attempting to avoid. Both Germany and the UK are actively penetrating private networks, and both of them have reason to not want pen...
[18:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Go full a-la carte - 06Verizon Takes Step Toward A La Carte Cable - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:08] <exec> 08└─> Go full a-la carte and > ...completely drop cable TV. That's the only reason cable is even considering going alacarte. The industry have been talking about it for over a generation, but it took netflix, hulu and youtube to make even a half-assed version happen. Also, subject lines are alacarte too...
[18:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:Link to NatureNews (first link in the summary) - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:10] <exec> 08└─I predict strong selection for the ability to hide in closets when hubby comes home.
[18:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Not surprising: - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:16] <exec> 08└─I saw an article a few years back that predicted that the first human germ line engineering would take place in China. This was due, both to their technical ability in bioengineering, and even more to that particular culture not having as much aversion to it as the West. Crispr/Cas technology has ma...
[18:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02This is the next Korean plastic surgery? - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:18] <exec> 08└─Will this be the next Korean plastic surgery? It's not like the Chinese have any qualms about this stuff. I foresee millions of identical looking handsome males with 180+ IQs and the emotional depth of a brick incoming. Let me get my umbrella.
[18:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Somethings unclear... - 06Google Launching Wireless Service Soon - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:52] <exec> 08└─Its a mixed bag. ArsTechnica [arstechnica.com] did a whole article comparing costs. It turned out to be a difficult thing to compare. Ars had this to say: Project Fi is great for people with fluctuating data usage though. Take me for instance: most days, at home and at work, I'm on Wi-Fi, with bare...
[18:16:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Islamic Reformation Needed - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:04] <exec> 08└─LOL I'm just expressing that she used to be (in)famous about her critical stance towards islam (she was one of the most famous politicians in the Netherlands for quite a while). Now she moved to the USA in exasperation, and suddenly she produces a book "hey look people! it's all not so bad!"
[18:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Dont get excited - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:36] <exec> 08└─I agree. Even xp bsod was caused by a bad ram stick every time.
[18:18:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Nope, Linux has it's irritating side... - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 815 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:45] <exec> 08└─Every OS has it's own, unique problems. In the case of Linux, it is this: Things that used to work, break. If they don't break, they change for no good reason. One minor example: A few months ago, I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop. This laptop is frequently docked and undocked, attached to proje...
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[19:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02But is it... - 06OpenID launched today - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:24] <exec> 08└─But is it fully Buzzword 2.0 compliant?
[19:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:But is it... - 06OpenID launched today - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:25] <exec> 08└─Some of us never upgraded from the buzzword 0.6 alpha. And honestly, I don't like this new buzzword paradigm. It lacks synergy.
[19:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:1) 02After Snowden... Why would you trust anybody! - 06OpenID launched today - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:27] <exec> 08└─Why would anybody with a brain use ANY centralized ID/Password system? It would just become part of the NSA dragnet.
[19:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:After Snowden... Why would you trust anybody! - 06OpenID launched today - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:29] <exec> 08└─Because comrade, the NSA would never use it for nefarious reasons. Only a commu...terrorist would object. You don't have anything to hide from your benevolent governmentary oligarchs, do you friend? The computer is your friend.
[19:11:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:After Snowden... Why would you trust anybody! - 06OpenID launched today - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:30] <exec> 08└─It doesn't matter, because so many sites are forcing people into facebook/google based single sign-on anyways. And no one is fighting back. I almost made the mistake of using a google sign on to pay for something recently, but bailed when I realized what they wanted was to automatically spam "buy ou...
[19:11:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:the questions - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 791 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:38] <exec> 08└─"U.S. interests" are not the interests of the public, but are the interests of the elites and military industrial complex. The real question is how effective the latest spooky threat (ISIL) has been at convincing the public to give up all rights. Of the Americans that bother paying attention to the...
[19:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03ncc74656 [4917] (Score:1) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:43] <exec> 08└─Many of the millenials will likely turn out to be fuckups of absolutely COLOSSAL proportions
[19:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:45] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, if all you have to say is STFU, maybe its because the shoe fits just a little too tight for your comfort. Those who won't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
[19:11:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 922 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:51] <exec> 08└─You're not wrong. But not because of people like the GP. I suspect they sincerely want to address the systemic issues. You can see the assholes on facebook who are going to drag our generation down. Blindly re-posting vaguely political memes without concern for critical evaluation. They're going to...
[19:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:53] <exec> 08└─But you're a fucking idiot dumb-fucker to drag out the imaginary "trophies" bullshit. If millenials are handed trophies like candy, which generation is the one buying and distributing them?
[19:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:55] <exec> 08└─Surprisingly, it's the New Worlder generation. Hundred year old Irish zombies rising from their grave to hand out trophies.
[19:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:58] <exec> 08└─you are young, I can tell. come back in 20 yrs when YOUR generation has 'ruined the world'.
[19:12:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] 02Snowden, gay marriage, miscegenation, electricity. - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 131 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:01] <exec> 08└─The phrase "Except for the current young generation, most Americans dislike X" has had a LOT of valid answers for X over the years.
[19:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"US national security" vs. "doing the right thi - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:04] <exec> 08└─The real problem is you're buying into the premises that: - secret government agencies, operating well, do more good than harm - by and large, those agencies are run well enough The reality is, for all we know, secret agencies could be the most expensive (and generally most harmful, short of actual...
[19:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't think the older generation understands. - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:07] <exec> 08└─I think the older generation understand more than you do. Its not about the tools used. Its about the citizen's total loss of control of our government. There exists no checks and balances. Its become a fiction, lost to a free-floating concept of what the constitution actually says. It started with...
[19:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VitalMoss [3789] (Score:1) 02Re:"Damaged national security" - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:14] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, but that's classified. The Integrity of National Security is at stake. Also, uh, terrorism and child molesters!
[19:12:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:"Damaged national security" - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:16] <exec> 08└─He damaged the national security apparatus as well as national insecurity by encouraging more and stronger encryption. I hope we continue to feel the "damage" for years to come.
[19:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:So the US and Canadian government are also excl - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:14] <exec> 08└─US of A is the government of 'Merica, that's why we're 'Mericans (fuck yeah). Canada is the official National Reserve of North 'Merican resources and culture. Canada will save the traditions, land, and culture while we experiment here in USA. Speaking about North 'Merica, Mexico is the penal colony...
[19:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And how do they taste? - 06Chinese Scientists Have Genetically Modified Human Embryos - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:17] <exec> 08└─And get the dog to lick it off.
[19:15:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wake me - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:33] <exec> 08└─Because what they actually have is a clock with an overall systematic uncertainty of 2.1x10^-18, which you'd know if you'd actually bothered to RTFA. The mainstream press is just translating it to something most people can more easily comprehend. I doubt this will be useful for timekeeping, we don't...
[19:15:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If this is the most accurate clock - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:52] <exec> 08└─Indeed; how do they actually know how accurate it is, if there is no way to compare it something more accurate? Other than that, I'd think at some point (which we have probably passed quite a few years ago), clocks would be "sufficiently accurate for all practical purposes". What's the point? What w...
[19:16:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Update to story - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:30] <exec> 08└─Perhaps because the pattern you're discussing wasn't mentioned *at all* in the post you're commenting about? Great, there's a pattern, good for you...how's that related to the parent post screaming about how "progressives" would rather see "pretty ladies machine gunned to death" rather than "damagin...
[19:16:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Update to story - 06French Terror Plot Foiled By Gun-Handling Accident - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:31] <exec> 08└─France doesn't seem to care much about pissing off Muslims. Headscarves cannot be worn in government buildings or schools, anti-Muslim attacks are on the rise and there's the whole "apology for terrorism" law that's getting all sorts of Muslims arrested for no good reason...
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[20:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Is there an app for that? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:27] <exec> 08└─I'd like to have this running in my car at all times.
[20:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is there an app for that? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:28] <exec> 08└─Raspberry pi with battery and wifi adapter (in AP mode) Putting it in your car is probably more dangerous than the alternative. Imagine morons looking at their phones to try to figure out why their call died rather than just being on the call. I do enjoy the idea of stashing them in Starbucks all ar...
[20:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there an app for that? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:30] <exec> 08└─Or better yet, maybe I can install this on my bicycle. I hate it when the local heavy machinery operators are too busy playing with their phones to check and see if there's space for them to safely pilot their machines through narrow city streets.
[20:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Style Guide - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:32] <exec> 08└─Can we at least keep the capitalization consistent? The official and correct way to write Apple's mobile OS name is "iOS". IOS [wikipedia.org], all caps, is the router operating system made by Cisco.
[20:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:After Snowden... Why would you trust anybody! - 06OpenID launched today - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:42] <exec> 08└─Because with this specific "centralized" password system everyone can be an identity provider. In other words, you can run the thing providing your identity on your own system, as long as it is accessible from the internet. Or on your friend's system if he allows you to. Or at a rented server. Or in...
[20:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:00] <exec> 08└─The critical point is one thing has happened and the other might happen. Between the two, one has been proven and the other is angry speculation.
[20:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:04] <exec> 08└─He pointed out that there were no empty spots at the bar and he forced his way between two people talking. Secondly, how can a generation be derided for not having any sense of manners in the same breath that they are derided for responding to someone else's bad manners?
[20:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:1) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:06] <exec> 08└─That's a good way to put it. I think the proper manners in this scenario would be to to interject an "excuse me," which would queue the women to stance closer together so the gap at the bar is behind one of the women instead of between them. Better yet, it is common practice to create a gap when you...
[20:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They May Be Right - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:23] <exec> 08└─The surveillance state will create new secular terrorists. Aaron Swartz committed suicide but what if he had visited an NSA facility instead?
[20:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Most? Pah! - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:34] <exec> 08└─I would like to know who this "most" is. All but one of the people I know are not "millennials" and think that what Snowden did was a positive thing. My 65-year-old housemate and my 81-year-old father are cases in point. The one person I know who disagrees with me is a conservative Fox News echo cha...
[20:12:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03GDX [1950] (Score:2, Insightful) 02He really only did damage to the authorities. - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 1438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:36] <exec> 08└─As an European more than on time called paranoid because basically I was telling what Snowden revealed before it revealed it, actually most of was revealed by him was already know but at that time it was categorized as a lie, hoax or low quality rumor and him confirmed that those things where real....
[20:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02As a Member of Gen-X - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:38] <exec> 08└─I say unequivocally that Snowden is a hero. Someday the NSA will be burned to the ground by angry mobs and a giant statue of Snowden will be erected on the site, taking a dump on Eric Clapper's & Keith Alexander's heads.
[20:12:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:As a Member of Gen-X - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:40] <exec> 08└─I doubt that. In 2045 we'll have to settle for guerrilla holographic tributes [vanityfair.com] as the authorities probe our minds remotely with alien technology.
[20:13:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 944 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:02] <exec> 08└─Well, it seems like the poll used the term "global warming" rather than "climate change", so this snarky response doesn't quite apply. The highlights for me: - There is a strong public perception that there's actually a serious scientific debate about this. I think John Oliver was on to something wh...
[20:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Apparently, the page content is behind scripts - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 1745 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:04] <exec> 08└─When I go to the page with the article, I don't see anything of any value. Putting content behind scripts is idiocy. Not mentioning that point in the summary is pretty bad as well. If the poll started off by using the religious word "believe" (as is indicated by everyone so far on this page), this p...
[20:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Avoid the sports - 06Verizon Takes Step Toward A La Carte Cable - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:52] <exec> 08└─I've often wondered if those people are the ones trying to relive what they see as their glory days.
[20:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wake me - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:01] <exec> 08└─If you want to know how they know, then why don't you study it. But I guess the current age of the universe is derived from their best models that actually fit the observed data. There is certainly room for it to be refined further (i.e. date it more precisely with smaller error bars), but doesn't s...
[20:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dr. Sara Campbell is cool - 06Record Breaking Clock Accurate to one Second in 15 Billion Years - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:19] <exec> 08└─And as someone who studied physics, it was fantastic to see a woman with a PhD doing cutting edge research in a field so strongly dominated by men.
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[21:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02I'm amazed - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:27] <exec> 08└─that there hasn't been a court order out there preventing Apple from fixing this (and preventing disclosure of this particular big). Imagine how much easier it would be to "disband" a troublesome group of enemy forces [wsws.org] if you could first disable all those troublesome terrorist-friendly [re...
[21:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:1) 02Dang it... - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:28] <exec> 08└─Sorry, wanted this as a new thread. Sorry for the hijack.
[21:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm amazed - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:30] <exec> 08└─Are you complaining that they're not succeeding as a police state?
[21:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:32] <exec> 08└─Skycure's Blog seems to suggest iPhone users have to first connect to this router, it won't affect Joe Random Fanboy walking by. One day, during preparation for a demonstration of a network-based attack, we bought a new router. After setting the router in a specific configuration and connecting dev...
[21:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:34] <exec> 08└─Skycure's Blog seems to suggest iPhone users have to first connect to this router, it won't affect Joe Random Fanboy walking by.
[21:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:36] <exec> 08└─The Ars article on this mentioned that there's another two year old bug that can force an iPhone to connect to a wireless network...so yeah, it could be an area denial attack.
[21:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Foobar Bazbot [37] (Score:2) 02Re:Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:37] <exec> 08└─Yes, but they also mention (and link to) a method of getting around that -- apparently iPhones will autoconnect to a carrier-specified SSID, so by announcing your AP with the SSIDs for all applicable carriers, they will all automatically connect.
[21:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:39] <exec> 08└─Please forgive my dumbness, but will this connection cause the reboot even if the password for that SSID is wrong?
[21:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:After Snowden... Why would you trust anybody! - 06OpenID launched today - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:50] <exec> 08└─I think you missed the point. As far as I can see this is good for exactly one thing, throw-away identities, that you need to log into certain sites. Using such a thing for anything that requires real security is just silly in the post snowden world. This isn't the first go around with OpenID. It ne...
[21:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:After Snowden... Why would you trust anybody! - 06OpenID launched today - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:52] <exec> 08└─Why would anybody with a brain use ANY centralized ID/Password system?
[21:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:07] <exec> 08└─Not at all... they can be both. :)
[21:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03gishzida [2870] (Score:1) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 2237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:11] <exec> 08└─Hmmm... Don't count everyone in a generation as being responsible for bad policy and evil government. I think that the release of those NSA documents point out how our government has been pwned by liars and profiteers. The people who tell us one thing and do another... "Newspeak" for the post millen...
[21:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:28] <exec> 08└─Good luck to you. Gen-X here. I voted against Bush because it was clear to me that if elected, he would find some excuse or another to invade Iraq so he could be a war president like his daddy. I urged my "representatives" not to let the madness happen. I urged everyone I knew to vote to avoid the w...
[21:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03TestablePredictions [3249] (Score:1) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 713 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:30] <exec> 08└─Which generation can we call primarily responsible for the acceptance of handing over all our personal information, data, photos, and GPS coordinates to corporations (and thus government agencies)? I don't think it was any generation that was already an adult (or in college or highschool) by the mid...
[21:12:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] 02"US national security" vs. "doing the right thing" - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 829 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:32] <exec> 08└─The question is not "did Snowden hurt US security" - I don't think it's in question that he did - the first question is "Did Snowden do the right thing by blowing the whistle on the US government doing things ranging from shady to outright unconstitutional?" I think the answer to that one is, also,...
[21:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03TestablePredictions [3249] (Score:1) 02Re:"US national security" vs. "doing the right thi - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:34] <exec> 08└─I think we're basically in agreement, but let's see if we can improve your phrasing: INCORRECT: "... it's not in question that [Snowden] did [hurt US security]." CORRECT: Surveillance agencies hurt US security. The messenger, Snowden, who informed us is in no way responsible for the harm.
[21:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03TestablePredictions [3249] (Score:1) 02Mod parent AC up! - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:37] <exec> 08└─I find your prediction chilling but very probable.
[21:12:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snow [1601] 02I don't think the older generation understands... - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 302 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:39] <exec> 08└─Snowden was on John Olliver's show a few weeks ago, and they made a good point about how unless you have years of IT experience/training, you can't even comprehend what can be done with the data they are sucking up. People actually think that this is the only thing preventing another 9/11 type attac...
[21:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Go full a-la carte - 06Verizon Takes Step Toward A La Carte Cable - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:01] <exec> 08└─> I am fed up with bundles where I have to accept something I have no use for in order to access something I want. Sounds like pop music albums from the 1980s. Pay $15 for an album with one good song and 30 minutes of filler. Lot of people got fed up with that 20 years ago. Last time I bit on one of...
[21:18:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Problem isn't manipulations but tracking - 06Germany 1 : AdBlock Plus 1 : Advertisers 0 - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:44] <exec> 08└─Well, I'm using RequestPolicy; that way my browser doesn't even contact their servers. So how would they track me?
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[22:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Style Guide - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:33] <exec> 08└─wIfI hACK cREATES nO gO zONE fOR Ios. (with rounded corners, for good measure)
[22:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:41] <exec> 08└─You can configure WiFi networks that do not require authentication. You can't get the password wrong if there's no password.
[22:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:42] <exec> 08└─Right, but what happens if you try to connect to a no-password SSID by whilst a password? I'll put it another way: Let's say I create a hotspot called Tork, you connect to it, and you have to enter (and save) a password to authenticate to it. Then, after you've used it for a while, I go to my rou...
[22:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:44] <exec> 08└─What I think he is suggesting is to pro-actively enter "bad data" for your carrier specific SSID (so that the phone will fail to connect to it and be immune to the attack.) My guess is the carrier SSID is already hard-coded, but it might be worth a try to see if it's even possible.
[22:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 965 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:47] <exec> 08└─It would seem that it might not, because without a password you can't even associate with an access point. This presumes that there was any security at all on the router. If the router was set up with no security then all you have to do is choose to connect. However, as mentioned above, there is ano...
[22:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:49] <exec> 08└─This is exactly why I asked. When I first got my phone it would connect to AT&T and Starbucks hotspots. I eventually killed that because in most cases 4G data is much faster than the local saturated hotspot. I haven't bothered to try to bring that back because I assumed they had pre-configured a pas...
[22:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Have to connect? - 06WiFi Hack Creates No Go Zone For IOS - 745 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:51] <exec> 08└─These days, most Starbucks are supplied WIFI by Google, so its a whole different thing. But still, if you have ever log into a Starbucks it will log you into just about any Starbucks (corporate) stores. They all use the same SSID, with no security (but they usually take you to an "I Agree" page.) I...
[22:11:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02Re:After Snowden... Why would you trust anybody! - 06OpenID launched today - 340 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:58] <exec> 08└─Because with this specific "centralized" password system everyone can be an identity provider. In other words, you can run the thing providing your identity on your own system, as long as it is accessible from the internet. Or on your friend's system if he allows you to. Or at a rented server. Or in...
[22:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Your opinion, keep it - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:29] <exec> 08└─I can confirm that I received a trophy each year for playing soccer, despite losing >80% of the games. However, I would like to note the following caveats: 1 - It was "recreational soccer", which essentially means "if you pay money, you're on a team". 2 - I would not have been a good enough player t...
[22:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The oligarchy negates your point - 06Except for Millennials, Most Americans Dislike Snowden - 735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:35] <exec> 08└─What you say would be true IF we had a working democratic republic. The thing is that there are supermajorities of USAians who agree on what needs to be done and they are ignored.[1] [googleusercontent.com] (orig)[1] [popularresistance.org] What we have is a gov't by the rich and for the rich. [1] T...
[22:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:surprising numbers. - 06Yale Climate Change Poll - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:22] <exec> 08└─I miss Frank a lot. The man was quite a character. :-)
[22:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Micro$oft windoze is a CYBERWEAPON! - 06Metasploit says Papers Please or Go Home! - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:56] <exec> 08└─I've been using Linux on the Desktop for years. I hope it never gets too popular, as that will put a big red X on our backs with virus writers and other malware. Contrary to popular belief, Linux is no more secure than other operating systems....all it takes is getting suckered to run one bad scrip...
[22:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03naubol [1918] (Score:2) 02Re:This argument, really? - 06Swallow Your Password - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:42] <exec> 08└─What about the unexpected consequences? We are resisting change out of fear. If all that our imagination can come up with is Orwellian control schemes, then just like an Orwellian character, we are now trapped by the language of Orwell. It isn't discussion, it is an echo chamber.
[22:15:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02what are the ultimate limits? - 06First Exoplanet Visible Light Spectrum - 1469 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:34] <exec> 08└─This summer, our probe to Pluto will give us a much closer look than is possible from our distance of mere light hours. We had to send a probe for a good look, it can't be done with our current telescope technology. Given that, I would never have thought it possible to see a planet from 50 light yea...
[22:16:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:When is LlDAR coming to Google Maps? - 06Reproducing London with LIDAR - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:10] <exec> 08└─Do you think these people really has the ability to find like minded in situation without telecommunications. And have the ability to fend of advanced technology like heat signature surveillance, drones, gunships etc.
[22:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:When is LlDAR coming to Google Maps? - 06Reproducing London with LIDAR - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:12] <exec> 08└─Some places where there's a lot of sun baked sand and too much crazy ideas from narrow minded people.
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