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[08:46:27] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Perhaps - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 42 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:46:27] <exec> 08└─He would've hung himself if it were Linux.
[08:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Perhaps - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:28] <exec> 08└─Don't be such a ridiculous troll. The guy himself clearly said it was because of the constant BSODs. Hinch told the Los Angeles Times he had no regrets. "It was glorious," he said. "Angels sung on high." The Dell kept giving Hinch the "blue screen of death," he said of the machine's final moments....
[08:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Perhaps - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:30] <exec> 08└─So, he's claiming he shot in self-defense?
[08:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Perhaps - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:32] <exec> 08└─Nah... it must have been Windows 8. It's made me want to shoot my seldom-used Windows laptop on several occasions.
[08:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:46:34] <exec> 08└─Can we all be honest? I love Linux and FOSS as much as the next guy, but if he had been running Linux he would have shot it 32 times several months ago. Or fed it a grenade. I've certainly felt that urge. It's far from a carefree experience. Not that $EVIL_CORP_OS is better, of course.
[08:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:35] <exec> 08└─I, as a Linux user of 22 years (1993), endorse the above comment.
[08:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:37] <exec> 08└─Dude, you're getting a Parabellum. I guess this voids the warranty.
[08:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03NoMaster [3543] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:39] <exec> 08└─... but if he had been running Linux he would have shot it 32 times ...
[08:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:41] <exec> 08└─I concur. At the moment, I've got a Linux HTPC, which for some reason loses the X server at every single boot-up, and I need to reboot to make it go. Can't work out why. Worse than that, for some reason music (mp3, flac, and so forth) will play just fine after I unmute the system (which mutes at eve...
[08:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Doubt it - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:46:42] <exec> 08└─"Could this senseless and violent tragedy have been avoided if his PC were running Linux instead?" Does not matter what OS you are using there are always the WTF did that just do to me moments where you will want to smash it to bits.
[08:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Fix it - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:44] <exec> 08└─But you can only fix the problem yourself if it's free software. (You can use another computer if the last one got caught in a hail of bullets.) For the uninitiated https://fsf.org [fsf.org]
[08:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Fix it - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:46] <exec> 08└─One, free ≠ open source. Two, most people can't "fix" an accidentally misplaced Firefox toolbar. Debugging a major application or an OS is not really an option. Three, you really think debugging what someone else wrote won't be rage-inducing?
[08:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Doubt it - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:47] <exec> 08└─Does not matter what OS you are using there are always the WTF did that just do to me moments where you will want to smash it to bits.
[08:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Off Topic: Please explain concept of prejudice - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:49] <exec> 08└─As a non-native english speaker I have often wondered about the concept of prejudice in the legal system. In non-legal matters I understand the term prejudice in the sense of having a negative bias about something - think racism. But in the legal system this doesn't make sense - prejudice according...
[08:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Off Topic: Please explain concept of prejudice - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:51] <exec> 08└─Here's a relevant link: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] It basically refers to whether a case that has been dismissed may be re-filed later. For example, if in a criminal proceeding the judge rules the case dismissed with prejudice, that's the same, as far as...
[08:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Invoke self-defence - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:46:53] <exec> 08└─"He did tell us he thought it was okay because we are an open carry state," Buckley said. But it is illegal in the city limits to discharge a firearm unless one is protecting life or property, she said.
[08:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02uh uh - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:46:55] <exec> 08└─Could this senseless and violent tragedy have been avoided if his PC were running Linux instead?
[08:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Depends - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:46:57] <exec> 08└─Could this senseless and violent tragedy have been avoided if his PC were running Linux instead?
[08:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Depends - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:58] <exec> 08└─System D has ruined general-purpose computing forever. It has "shot" (metaphorically) all of us to some degree.
[08:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Redundant) 02BSOD - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:00] <exec> 08└─Blue screen of death.
[08:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Gamer - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:02] <exec> 08└─Would you like to identify your possessions?
[08:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Always ask why? - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:04] <exec> 08└─both the FCC and DoJ are not happy with the proposed merger
[08:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Always ask why? - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:05] <exec> 08└─You have to wonder whether they've been under-bribed or taken out by a competitive bribe. If it's the second, I wonder which company is behind it?
[08:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Always ask why? - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:07] <exec> 08└─both the FCC and DoJ are not happy with the proposed merger
[08:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03similar_name [71] (Score:1) 02Re:Always ask why? - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:09] <exec> 08└─what parliamentary tricks are TWC/Comcast pulling here to keep it moving?
[08:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Always ask why? - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:11] <exec> 08└─No, this is the warning shot across the bow, indicating they are displeased with the current 'offering' of TW and Comcast. Time to sweeten the pot!
[08:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02formal meeting - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:12] <exec> 08└─I suppose that was intended in the summary where it says ' former' meeting
[08:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:formal meeting - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:14] <exec> 08└─that the FCC may hold a former hearing into the deal soon.
[08:47:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03similar_name [71] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:formal meeting - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:16] <exec> 08└─My Grandpa has former hearing.
[08:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:formal meeting - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:17] <exec> 08└─My Grandpa has former hearing.
[08:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:formal meeting - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:19] <exec> 08└─Come again? A bit louder, please?
[08:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:formal meeting - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:21] <exec> 08└─Damn, thanks
[08:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Doesn't matter - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:23] <exec> 08└─The point in favour of the merger is that the two companies are already an oligopoly - they don't compete head-to-head in more than a tiny fraction of their markets, they mostly just carve up the US into places that one or the other price gouges. This doesn't necessarily mean that the merger should...
[08:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Headline is misleading - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:25] <exec> 08└─The conclusion of TFA is, streets that should be one-way should be one-way. Streets that should be two-way should be two-way. Ignoring that to keep up with the latest trend in urban planning leads to poor results.
[08:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Junk Science? - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:26] <exec> 08└─Whoever wrote this article I think may be a purveyor of junk science. Of course one-way streets are faster. That's why cities choose to chance their traffic patters to use them: to get traffic to move more quickly. With regard to safety, however, I think that is debatable. Anyone who has been a pede...
[08:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:4, Interesting) 02The Snail Lobby - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:28] <exec> 08└─Slowpokes, old people, and sticklers for the rules are all in favor of using the "safety" argument to bring us to heel. These are the same folks who demand "If you'd just take twice as long to get everywhere bad things wouldn't happen!" as though they've forgotten the nature of humanity and the impa...
[08:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Junk Science? - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:30] <exec> 08└─The same applies to Manhattan.
[08:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Louisville Kentucky is Tiny - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:32] <exec> 08└─Louisville is a low density city with a greater population of maybe one, and half million people; their one way street use case is very different from a more densely populated city.
[08:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:33] <exec> 08└─I tell our illegal aliens, "You only get one name with me. You can't go home to Mexico, then come back with another name, and expect me to use it." Ditto for BRADLEY MANNING.
[08:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 1795 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:35] <exec> 08└─I really don't care what the guy calls himself. His treason is far more important, whether caused by the same mental instability that is causing his gender confusion or not. A brick wall, a cigarette, a blindfold and a last word is all the world need see of him as far as I am concerned. Whether he i...
[08:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:37] <exec> 08└─I'd rather Snowden did not face "justice". If leakers know they can get away with it, maybe they will be more likely to share and undermine the surveillance state. Assange is an activist, not a brown Islamic target for your drones.
[08:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:39] <exec> 08└─Beyond that, Pfc Manning was a goddamned enlisted man, he isn't paid to pass moral judgment on the actions of his duly appointed (by the civilian Congress) officers, he is paid to salute and carry on.
[08:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:40] <exec> 08└─soldiers are explicitly told not to follow illegal (unconstitutional) orders.
[08:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:42] <exec> 08└─What unconstitutional orders was he given? All he did was mass copy classified files and dump them. There was no rhyme nor reason to the files he took. He wasn't told to do anything illegal. What came out of the files he dumped was at best embarrassing to the US or its foreign partners, and at worst...
[08:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:44] <exec> 08└─Start giving them swift (but open and fair) trials and prompt executions and the 'leak' problem will end.
[08:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:45] <exec> 08└─You are a problematic shitlord.
[08:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:47] <exec> 08└─You are a problematic shitlord.
[08:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:49] <exec> 08└─If you recall, DickRichard "Dick" Cheney alerted the nation to the nefarious actions of the CIA in trying stop the spread of nuclear materials, under the command of Valerie Plame!
[08:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:50] <exec> 08└─That nobody in the office of the Vice President leaked a damned thing,
[08:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:52] <exec> 08└─All I am doing in mirroring the malice already in this thread.
[08:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:1, Offtopic) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:54] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the malice that is going on with the moderation too.
[08:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:56] <exec> 08└─Your faith must be based on not being in the habit of questioning the sacred cows. You step out of line, the man come and take you away. ("You are a problematic shitlord" is +2 Informative?)
[08:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:58] <exec> 08└─Oh, no. People on this website tend to disagree with position X. I'm being oppressed! Sacred cows!!
[08:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2, Offtopic) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:59] <exec> 08└─Do you see the violence inherent in the (modding) system? Actually, I welcomed the shitlords, was that a mistake? Now I am not even sure who they are. So we need a test. ATTN: Shitlords! a) Bradley or b) Chelsea? And no, we will not hold you to be tranny fearing threatened homosexual if you answe...
[08:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:01] <exec> 08└─Posting anon to maximize your modding abuse potential, I see. Quick!! Look over there!! I think someone said something nice about the police!!!
[08:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 2156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:03] <exec> 08└─"Only now, at the end, do you realize the true power of the dark side! Yes, there are only two of us, a master and an apprentice, and right now I am in a tight spot since I have no apprentice and I really need you to come over to the dark side, and replace your father, who was a member of the greate...
[08:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:05] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure you can post in articles where you've modded people using your account and the mods won't be undone, so no. Nice baseless speculation. You don't even know if I have an account. Quick!! Look over there!! I think someone said something nice about the police!!!
[08:48:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02(OT) Changing vessels - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:06] <exec> 08└─"Changing vessels" or "jumping boats"? Nothing like a good old-fashioned pirating, ey? May be a solution to global warming as well (the pirates [venganza.org], I mean)
[08:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:(OT) Changing vessels - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:08] <exec> 08└─Not OT. Your comment is as much on-topic as Buffet's comment is to the article summary.
[08:48:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:2, Interesting) 02We will always have people - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 2079 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:10] <exec> 08└─that feel responsible to their community even if the entity hiring them does not agree. I believe all of us have limits to our obedience to authority. Push us beyond that and we will snap. I believe all of us have that point when we will fail to impose someone else's will on others. This leads me to...
[08:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02One question to ask is why are there so many now - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:11] <exec> 08└─And the answer is because the US is going to hell in a handbag.
[08:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Paying people properly for work - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:13] <exec> 08└─I-580, the double-decker freeway in the California Bay Area collapsed in the Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989. CalTrans took bids to rebuild it and awarded the contract to C.C. Meyers, Inc. [tradelineinc.com] Myers’ bid barely covered the cost of materials. There was, however, a bonus of $200,000 pe...
[08:48:14] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03tftp [806] 02Not my way of doing things - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 176 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:15] <exec> 08└─One must not implement too much buggy code or you will never get it debugged, but writing something bad then fixing it may well be better than not implementing anything at all.
[08:48:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Not my way of doing things - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:16] <exec> 08└─You're 100% right, and I start following your advice tomorrow.
[08:48:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Not my way of doing things - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 2172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:18] <exec> 08└─The two mistakes in your analysis are these: You assume the entire path can be plotted beforehand. You assume you can never go backward until the very end. Not all projects can be perfectly planned. I would say very few can. Many projects are more like battleplans, in that they never survive contact...
[08:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Not my way of doing things - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:20] <exec> 08└─Often that leads to building a tall tower on bad foundation. Eventually you realize that the whole codebase needs to be scrapped and rewritten. Better to spend time on thinking and planning before you initiate an avalanche of bad decisions.
[08:48:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my way of doing things - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:22] <exec> 08└─I wuz gonna post that but I didn't get around to it.
[08:48:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my way of doing things - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:24] <exec> 08└─Except the thing you really want to do is: Ship that stinking pile of crap. Then you get your cheque and they think you are wonderful for actually getting the job done. Now, hello Maintenance Contract...
[08:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Our dads thought alike - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 865 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:25] <exec> 08└─Quoting my dad, who was a very young Seabee in WW2, "Do something right or wrong". I've pretty much lived my life like that. No matter the problem, you've got to do SOMETHING to solve it, or it will remain unsolved. So - you look at it from a couple different angles, and then move in on it. If your...
[08:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Our dads thought alike - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:27] <exec> 08└─In that case, why not examine the "three or six or a dozen ways" a little bit before choosing on one to put real effort into. Also, do some research, the problem may have already been solved in an elegant way. The research might even keep you from feeling dumb when you discover a better solution lat...
[08:48:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Our dads thought alike - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:29] <exec> 08└─Quoting my dad, who was a very young Seabee in WW2, "Do something right or wrong".
[08:48:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Our dads thought alike - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:31] <exec> 08└─No, something "doing anything" ends up worse than doing nothing. I see it every day in corporate IT, with standard middle management kneejerk approach "eek, something has to be done, let's just do anything, QUICKLY!" *shudders*
[08:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Our dads thought alike - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:32] <exec> 08└─It's interesting how your post, which only replies to the first half of the grandparent's post, provides a perfect example of your point.
[08:48:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:Our dads thought alike - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:34] <exec> 08└─Not every post is written to refute or fight its parent post. I stand by what I wrote (minus the brainfart of writing "something" instead of "sometimes" near the start, which may have caused a misunderstanding or two).
[08:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Do something - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:36] <exec> 08└─My father, a Naval officer, was quite fond of shouting "Do something, even if it's stupid!
[08:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:3, Interesting) 02OODA loop is worth grokking - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:37] <exec> 08└─If nothing else to have it available in the toolbox. Another two are DID [wikipedia.org] and Deep Battle [wikipedia.org] as during the Battle of Kursk [wikipedia.org] (300 kilometers deep defenses, 3 main layers and several smaller ones). “Do something, even if it's stupid!”
[08:48:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:OODA loop is worth grokking - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:39] <exec> 08└─Do nothing, if it's the right sort of nothing.
[08:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:OODA loop is worth grokking - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:41] <exec> 08└─Yup :)
[08:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03acharax [4264] (Score:2) 02The problem isn't in writing buggy code - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:43] <exec> 08└─...One must not implement too much buggy code or you will never get it debugged...
[08:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02NO. - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 1170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:44] <exec> 08└─There are many situations where "well we have to do something" is COMPLETELY wrong. The main one is legislation. If you cannot conceive of a well reasoned law that is just for everyone without exception, then it is better to pass no law at all. Laws that work "most of the time" and only cause injust...
[08:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Perhaps I wasn't clear... - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:46] <exec> 08└─I wasn't saying we should all go out and write buggy code. I'm saying that's a solution for not being to write code at all. Suppose I had never been able to get started on that dictionary. It wasn't just that we wouldn't have gotten the bonus, but that the company would have been on the hook for the...
[08:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03similar_name [71] (Score:1) 02Code Forrest Code - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:48] <exec> 08└─Forrest Gump was a man of action and it worked out well for him.
[08:48:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Interesting) 02Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:49] <exec> 08└─The most intelligent and successful people I know, some of which speak like three languages proficiently and are perhaps fluent in a fourth, don't use any of that stuff. They eat healthy (though they may skip meals if they're really busy), exercise, attempt to get enough sleep, and take good care of...
[08:48:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:51] <exec> 08└─Correlation is not causation
[08:48:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:53] <exec> 08└─(OP) BTW, I wasn't referring to (moderate uses of) caffeine (as in tea/coffee) or even vitamin supplements. My post was mostly referring to drugs like Adderall or Nicotine. Sorry for not pointing that out. Also successful business owners attempt to delegate as much work as possible to their employee...
[08:48:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:55] <exec> 08└─So successful business owners are ones that work as little as possible. No wonder they don't need any chemical enhancers. As for the rest of us...
[08:48:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:56] <exec> 08└─So successful business owners are ones that work as little as possible.
[08:48:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 1869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:58] <exec> 08└─Oh, believe me, they work much much harder than their employees. Yes, they make a lot more but they also take a lot more risk. If you own a retail store or a chain of stores (ie: cell phone shops), for example, you need to buy things in bulk quantity to be able to get it for cheaper. What if you can...
[08:48:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 1344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:00] <exec> 08└─(OP) I will say this about the security industry though. Back in the days security guards working for a relatively small security company used to get paid more ($14 - 16 an hour back when that amount of money was worth a lot more than what it's worth now) and field managers (what they call them depe...
[08:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:01] <exec> 08└─err ... it isn't a result of clients paying less *
[08:49:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:03] <exec> 08└─I don't believe you, because of your lack of both kinds of reason. Just because someone has more to lose does not mean they take more risk. A business owner investing a million dollars with the expectation to make a profit is not more risky than a working class family going half a year's income into...
[08:49:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:05] <exec> 08└─Many (most) of these business owners came to this country poor speaking English as a second language. They got jobs and eventually opened up their own place and grew their business. If they can do it then I am less sympathetic to a native born that doesn't.
[08:49:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:07] <exec> 08└─*Some* of them can do it. Most fail. You look to the successes and then pretend it is a general trend.
[08:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:08] <exec> 08└─Never said it was a general trend just that I seen it happen with many people I know.
[08:49:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:10] <exec> 08└─Citation or you are a liar. Go ahead, just one source indicating that many or most i.e. over 50% of business owners are foreign born and started poor. Go!
[08:49:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:12] <exec> 08└─That is true enough but only at smaller scales. At the corporate level, the CEO makes millions, risks no personal resource at all and gets a golden parachute even if he wrecks the company. The change seems to occur somewhere around the time a second layer of management appears.
[08:49:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03gallondr00nk [392] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 893 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:14] <exec> 08└─I think there's an important distinction to make between working faster and doing better work. In the majority of corporate office environments, I doubt that the quality of work is really that important. Mediocre work done quickly will be noticed (and probably rewarded) a lot more frequently than me...
[08:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diet, sleep, exercise!! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:15] <exec> 08└─Adderall is a mix of amphetamine salts not methamphetamine, desoxyn is meth
[08:49:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02feel good - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 2426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:49:17] <exec> 08└─I've fooled around with energy drinks ranging from going caffeine free (not even tea!) to gulping down one or two energy drinks per day and I've found long term that a moderate level of consumption (daily tea habit plus a little more sometimes, more or less) reaches a local maxima of feeling good, h...
[08:49:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:feel good - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:19] <exec> 08└─To contribute my own anecdote, I'm the youngest on our QA team at 31, and I drink mostly coffee/tea (but mostly coffee) with a Red Bull maybe once every week or two if I'm really dragging. I don't think it improves my performance, but it certainly makes me feel less like shit. The woman in her late...
[08:49:20] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02What's with this "get ahead"? - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 41 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:49:20] <exec> 08└─Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead
[08:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What's with this "get ahead"? - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:22] <exec> 08└─I've worked for a few companies like that now (mostly American) and it all ends in tears (for the company). The relentless productivity and efficiency push and the "good is the enemy of great" mentality leads to burn-out, unsustainable cut-backs and the inevitable divide-by-zero where the numbers lo...
[08:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Adderall is amphetamine - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:49:24] <exec> 08└─I personally prefer Vyvanse. A lysinated derivatives with a slower intake, no rush nor kick, smoother ride and longer duration. But amphetamine are have an undeserved bad reputations. According to the US army they are the gold standard against fatigue and a great mathematician have used them until h...
[08:49:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Adderall is amphetamine - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:26] <exec> 08└─Also with a few beers you flush them out and start to make the kind of mistakes you would have made without them
[08:49:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Adderall is amphetamine - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:27] <exec> 08└─But amphetamine are have an undeserved bad reputations.
[08:49:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Adderall is amphetamine - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:29] <exec> 08└─Oh, sorry I am not American, I work 35hr a week, overtime after 37hr and I take Vyvanse because I have the attention span of a guppy fish. Even if I mentally could work 80hr a week on Vyvanse I have no desire to do so, I am not a masochist :) And about Parkinson you need a big daily dose or methamph...
[08:49:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Adderall is amphetamine - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:31] <exec> 08└─a responsible usage like the mathematician I have named is as harmless as a reasonable coffee usage
[08:49:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Adderall is amphetamine - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:32] <exec> 08└─Therapeutical dose are the key as you need really relatively high doses of pure amphetamine to trigger da neurons damage, mdma and meth are a magnitude more harmfull. Vyvanse is even gentler than amphetamine sulfate... I am pretty sure that bacon and beer will kill me well before I get permanent dam...
[08:49:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Adderall is amphetamine - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:34] <exec> 08└─Sorry for lacking the adequate English fluency to adequately express why meth is a lot more armful than amphetamine but let me give you a crude and flawed explanation : Methamphetamine and methylendioxymehtamphetamine make the dopamine containing vesicles explode, amphetamine only puncture them. I w...
[08:49:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Adderall is amphetamine - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:35] <exec> 08└─Vyvanse is even gentler than amphetamine sulfate...
[08:49:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 021st hand experience - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:49:37] <exec> 08└─With provigil/nuvigil, yes it makes you smarter. Best taken with enough sleep, and avoid caffeine while you're taking it. Enjoy being smarter and making less mistakes.
[08:49:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:1st hand experience - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:39] <exec> 08└─Enjoy being smarter and making less mistakes.
[08:49:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:1) 02lets become the Lance Armstrongs of the office! - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:49:41] <exec> 08└─It worked wonders in the cycling races, so it will work well in offices. Imagine a customer rep on Adderall! They are annoying as it is. TL;DR; DO NOT WANT.
[08:49:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How to get Adderall? - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:49:42] <exec> 08└─With Adderall being prescription-only, what magic incantation is needed to convince a doctor to prescribe these to you? I would love to get my hands on some, but don't see how.
[08:49:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:How to get Adderall? - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:44] <exec> 08└─You read what symptoms it treats, elaborate on how those negatively affect you, and mention you saw an add for the medicine or know a friend who has great luck with it. Like most humans, doctors are manipulable, especially psychiatrists who have only 15 minutes to see you.
[08:49:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:How to get Adderall? - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:46] <exec> 08└─Vyvanse should be easier to get and is less likely to interrupt your sleep and is less abusable. If you took ADD meds as a kid, that's an icebreaker. The symptoms that you present to warrant the medication are things like having difficulty resuming a task after an interruption, difficulty focusing i...
[08:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How to get Adderall? - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:47] <exec> 08└─This. Worked for me with my primary care MD. Problem here was, only 1 pharmacy in town stocked it, and the pharmacist there pulled an attitude and said he'd only fill my prescription if I got a psychiatrist to sign off on it. Too bad, because it really did help with focus at work, and helped with ap...
[08:49:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How to get Adderall? - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:49] <exec> 08└─Vyvanse ... is less abusable.
[08:49:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03nyder [4525] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:How to get Adderall? - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 1235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:51] <exec> 08└─For me to be prescribe Adderall, all it took was telling the shrink at the methadone clinic (I was on methadone because I was a heroin junkie), that I was dyslexic and had ADHD. Which I do have. Granted I wasn't looking for drugs, but imagine my surprise when I, at a clinic for drug abuse, am pres...
[08:49:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:1) 02In My Day - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:49:52] <exec> 08└─In my day the boss would just lace the watercooler with caffeinated water if he wanted his employees to work faster.
[08:49:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In My Day - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:54] <exec> 08└─Now everybody's drinking red bull and mountain dew extreme so caffeinated water would probably be the opposite of a boost.
[08:49:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:In My Day - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 713 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:56] <exec> 08└─My father told a WWII story about an experiment run with the "typing pool" -- a group of people (mostly, or all, women) that typed up hand written reports for an engineering office. Initially the workers got a break mid-morning and mid-afternoon. The boss started to add more breaks until they were u...
[08:49:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02Re:In My Day - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:58] <exec> 08└─That's so primitive. All my employees get a drip inserted in the morning and pure meth pumped in by a computer controlled pump. We measure their urine to get the feedback cycle right (I find taste test the best). I also keep a sharp stick handy for the recalcitrant ones.
[08:49:58] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02Re:Only the exclusion of some things is a problem - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 1790 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:59] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing here, but what appears to be common to all the transactions that count (and missing from the ones that do NOT count) is that they all involve Valve having a direct interaction with the user - you have to give Valve a valid name and credit card number to buy things directly from Valve. T...
[08:50:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03danmars [3662] (Score:2) 02Re:Only the exclusion of some things is a problem - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:01] <exec> 08└─Another possibility is that game developers are making fake accounts, redeeming gift (external) keys to their games, then posting reviews with those fake accounts. The new system would require them to buy $5 worth of stuff on all the fake accounts in order to use them to write fake reviews, which se...
[08:50:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:Only the exclusion of some things is a problem - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:03] <exec> 08└─you have to give Valve a valid name and credit card number to buy things directly from ValveNo, you don't. I use PayPal to buy Steam games and prepaid cards also work. I've been a Steam user since their first year of operation and have never given them my real name.
[08:50:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only the exclusion of some things is a problem - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:04] <exec> 08└─you have to give Valve a valid name and credit card number to buy things directly from Valve
[08:50:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Only the exclusion of some things is a problem - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:06] <exec> 08└─Probably because it's not super difficult to get bulk keys cheap (humble bundle) or just steal them (the Sniper Elite 3 debacle, for example).
[08:50:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Only the exclusion of some things is a problem - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:08] <exec> 08└─Probably because it's not super difficult to get bulk keys cheap (humble bundle) or just steal them (the Sniper Elite 3 debacle, for example).
[08:50:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only the exclusion of some things is a problem - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:09] <exec> 08└─Regardless, no one should be using Steam because it is proprietary software and encourages DRM.
[08:50:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Only the exclusion of some things is a problem - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:11] <exec> 08└─I get the proprietary software bit but how does steam encourage DRM?
[08:50:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not count retail? - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:13] <exec> 08└─See above - plus the value of retail purchases is harder to accurately determine.
[08:50:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not count retail? - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:14] <exec> 08└─Below a certain threshold, even retail keys become disposable. I think that retail purchases are disallowed because steam has no way of knowing where you got the key. For example, did you get the key for free with a piece of hardware? I that case, someone buying the hardware in bulk in one market, r...
[08:50:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 937 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:50:16] <exec> 08└─I realize they're facing a bad signal to noise problem on the service. Seems everyone has their own version of this issue once their userbase grows above a certain high number. However, instead of using multi-factor authentication methods, they're choosing to gate by money... and there isn't much be...
[08:50:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:18] <exec> 08└─You can't even invite friends or talk in a group? A child can't submit their amazing creations to the Steam Workshop? One can't post "frequently," whatever that means?
[08:50:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:20] <exec> 08└─I usuallt play TF2 and DOTA2, a couple other FTP, and a few titles that I purchased at retail. I've never needed to give Valve my credit card, and intend to keep it that way. Despite a pretty decent number of hours providing a moving target for people who did pay Valve for cute hats, I'm now a secon...
[08:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:21] <exec> 08└─I'm now a second-class citizen...
[08:50:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:23] <exec> 08└─This just goes to show that you shouldn't use proprietary software like Steam. Sad that so many here defend a DRM-enabling company like Value (or Microsoft, Sony, etc.).
[08:50:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marneus68 [3572] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Not new. - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 1053 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:25] <exec> 08└─>they're choosing to gate by money... >Right now it's "just" $5, but when that isn't enough? The thing is, if you have any interest in the service Valve offers, chances are you already are way past the 5$ gate already. >You can't even invite friends or talk in a group? This has started long before t...
[08:50:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03hb253 [745] (Score:1) 02Re:Not new. - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:26] <exec> 08└─I only play Counter Strike: Global Offensive, which I purchased through Steam a few years ago. I haven't purchased anything else (games, badges, weapons, upgrades, whatever). Would I be subject to the limited functionality?
[08:50:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Not new. - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:28] <exec> 08└─"I only play Counter Strike: Global Offensive" You forgot to add "you insensitive clod!"
[08:50:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khedoros [2921] (Score:2) 02Re:Not new. - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:30] <exec> 08└─It's listed on the store for $15 right now. Did you pay over $5 for it?
[08:50:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Not new. - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:31] <exec> 08└─It was long before that. Like in 2004 I was playing Alien Swarm for Free on my Steam account and had far restricted ability to interact wit the community because I had 0 games I have paid for on my account. I think since day one there have been restrictions on accounts with no "real" purchases.
[08:50:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 1028 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:33] <exec> 08└─It's definitely something that's worth keeping an eye on - you're absolutely right this is one possible future state for this. That said, I think it's unlikely, mostly because so much of the history of Valve and Steam seems to point in a different direction. Valve built steam with an impressive amou...
[08:50:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 935 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:35] <exec> 08└─The point isn't to make Valve more money. They're already making money hand over fist. If they just wanted money, it would be a separate purchase, not a side-benefit of buying literally anything else on Steam. The point is to add a cost to a throwaway account. That completely breaks the economics of...
[08:50:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:36] <exec> 08└─I think the main reason is that there is not going to be a whole lot of users who would want the features they are gating so bad that they would go out of their way to pay to get them. The demand just won't be there so increasing the cost would have no effect on their sales. Steam is primarily a sto...
[08:50:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 2593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:38] <exec> 08└─This won't make Valve any money worth speaking of, it's applied retroactively across your prior purchase activity. The fraction of legit users who will actually have a problem with this is likely to be tiny - the only people who know how widespread the problem will actually be is Valve, and if they...
[08:50:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 2043 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:40] <exec> 08└─Why is it a slippery slope at all? Yes, it's a gate to entry, but the purpose is simply to establish a deterrent towards bad behavior. The current system imposes no cost on abusers, so it didn't discourage bad behavior in any way. Even a modest buy-in is sufficient to take care of the worst offender...
[08:50:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:42] <exec> 08└─However, instead of using multi-factor authentication methods, they're choosing to gate by money... and there isn't much beyond the gate.
[08:50:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Set a price for content - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 1201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:50:43] <exec> 08└─So they've got some subset of features, none of which I find any value in so I don't use them and don't care so I'm fairly unbiased (nobody is threatening to take away my favorite toy resulting in a knee jerk reaction, etc). And they figure some fraction of the couple bucks they're requiring is enou...
[08:50:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Set a price for content - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 1093 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:45] <exec> 08└─I don't consider the subset of "premium" features to have a lot of value myself either. However, there are a few things in there that could be quite commercially lucrative to manipulate - voting on Steam Greenlight jumps immediately to mind. Stuffing the ballot will go from requiring enough smarts t...
[08:50:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:2) 02Finally! A Tier for the Rest of Us! - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:50:47] <exec> 08└─From TFS: Limited users are prevented from accessing several features on Steam, including but not limited to:...Trading Cards;
[08:50:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marneus68 [3572] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally! A Tier for the Rest of Us! - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:48] <exec> 08└─Consider it free steam money, because that's basically what it is. Resell it on the market, don't think about it and the next thing you know you'll bet getting that last indie game you wanted for a while for free during the next summer sale. That's what I always do.
[08:50:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:yay science. dam. - 06Australian Scientists Cure Hepatitis B in Animal Trials - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:50] <exec> 08└─Save your "Boo" for the politicians that decide to do bad things with technologies developed by scientists and engineers.
[08:50:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I didn't hear from a friend for six weeks - 06Australian Scientists Cure Hepatitis B in Animal Trials - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:50:52] <exec> 08└─Didn't think much of it, we both had busy lives at the time. So he calls me up to say he was just getting over hepatitis. "There is no medicine for the liver" he told me. He got it by eating off his cousin's plate at a family picnic. "My eyes turned yellow and my shit turned white". I don't know wha...
[08:50:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I didn't hear from a friend for six weeks - 06Australian Scientists Cure Hepatitis B in Animal Trials - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:54] <exec> 08└─Hepatitis is inflammation of the liver and it can be caused by a number of things such as viruses (hepatitis A-E), alcohol, or an autoimmune disease. http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[08:50:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03marcello_dl [2685] 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 225 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:55] <exec> 08└─So, you'd rather build your house on the sand, and the proprietary stack came, and the patents came, and the "keep up with whatever we do" android-like trap came, and the house collapsed. Better to build on the rock (GPL v3).
[08:50:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03beernutz [4365] (Score:1) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:57] <exec> 08└─They use Apache and BSD licenses for most of their releases. I think those are pretty good too.
[08:50:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03m2o2r2g2 [3673] (Score:1, Disagree) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:59] <exec> 08└─If they open source it, (which they are only now starting to actually do properly) I am happy to build on their "sand". Just like any other open source project, if a large corporation takes it in a direction you don't like, (eg Canonical), then you can fork it and go your own way. Your sand is secur...
[08:51:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The filter to get to be CEO - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:01] <exec> 08└─When M$ stops including a PATENTS.TXT file with their "open" code, that will signal the changing of their methods--and the end of that company.
[08:51:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03arashi no garou [2796] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 1040 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:02] <exec> 08└─I was trying to be funny but you just proved my point. There is no "maybe" or middle ground with people like you, it's only black and white. Microsoft could open source Windows and all the rest of their products, cure cancer, end world hunger, and generate world peace, and it still wouldn't be good...
[08:51:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:04] <exec> 08└─> Microsoft could open source Windows and all the rest of their products, cure cancer, end world hunger, and generate world peace, and it still wouldn't be good enough for you That is not a claim based on evidence. You have prejudged him. Why do you express such prejudiced views? > it's much easier...
[08:51:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03arashi no garou [2796] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:06] <exec> 08└─That is not a claim based on evidence. You have prejudged him. Why do you express such prejudiced views?
[08:51:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:07] <exec> 08└─"And yet in his reply to me he does the same, going so far as to assume I'm a hardcore Microsoft user defending my favorite company" Yet you continue to post like your head is stuck up MS ass defending them at all cost. MS deserves absolutely no leeway the bar should be at least twice as high as any...
[08:51:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03arashi no garou [2796] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 912 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:09] <exec> 08└─The only thing I'm defending is the concept of a middle ground. As I said in another comment, take Microsoft out of the picture and drop in something like systemd and I'd say the same thing: There is room for improvement. Even though I don't like what systemd represents, I still consider the possibi...
[08:51:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Informative) 02"Microsoft could open source Windows" - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:11] <exec> 08└─First: That would be really embarrassing for them. MICROS~1 got caught re-using GPL'd code for their Hyper-V thing and they were required to hand over their GPL-derived stuff. MICROS~1's effort was such a complete mess, before folding it into the kernel[1], the 1st thing gregkh needed to do was stri...
[08:51:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 2674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:14] <exec> 08└─I find it somewhat amusing and ironic that you paint me as a black-and-white person in such a black-and-white manner. Certainly the road to redemption begins with good deeds and actions, but forgive my jaundiced eye in questioning ones commitment if one only shows up on Sunday and leaves before Comm...
[08:51:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03arashi no garou [2796] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:17] <exec> 08└─Flowery speech doesn't make you right, it only makes you appear pretentious, so I'm going to ignore your "history lesson" since you obviously missed my point. However, when in Rome as they say, if you'll allow me to invoke your cognitive and argumentative skills and provide my own deleterious simil...
[08:51:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:21] <exec> 08└─so I'm going to ignore your "history lesson"
[08:51:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03arashi no garou [2796] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:24] <exec> 08└─I actually assume nothing about you.
[08:51:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:28] <exec> 08└─From my mere statement of once bitten, twice shy, or fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me (or whichever flavor of that idiom you prefer), you have exposed me as the rapscallion I am and have laid bare my dangerous religious fervor. I concede all points to you and I will retire from...
[08:51:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:31] <exec> 08└─You assume much about me. I've been a steady Slackware user since about 1999, as you would be able to see from my past posts here if you chose to. It's only in the last six months that I've started looking at Microsoft as something that might be worth considering again for daily use,
[08:51:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03arashi no garou [2796] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:34] <exec> 08└─Pay? Hell, I paid for my Slackware DVDs, bud! Sure, I could have downloaded them for free, that's the beauty of open source software. But if you're going to join the Church of Slack, you may as well support it too. Trust Bob, he knows what he's talking about.
[08:51:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:37] <exec> 08└─Satya Nadella could save a drowning child and most of the residents here would claim it was so he could eat the child for dinner later.
[08:51:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03arashi no garou [2796] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:39] <exec> 08└─Finally, someone who gets it. No no no, thank you!
[08:51:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Informative) 0230yrs is long enough to become a different company - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:40] <exec> 08└─...if M$ had started 30 years ago--maybe. ...and they had put completely new people in charge. You don't have a proper appreciation for inertia. -- gewg_
[08:51:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:42] <exec> 08└─Erm, but this was 11 years ago, not 30: http://windowsitpro.com And this was only 7 years ago, not 30: http://www.groklaw.net
[08:51:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:44] <exec> 08└─Last month i forked and built significant portions of their web stack. Does that mean MS doesn't still do evil stuff? heck no. But it's a step in the right direction. It looks like the next version will run on linux as well. Which is great news for companies who want to migrate from windows servers...
[08:51:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about AM radio? - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:46] <exec> 08└─That's what he said, that it is full of BS.
[08:51:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:What about AM radio? - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:47] <exec> 08└─Only in the US where all the AM stations are now owned by 2 or 3 holding companies. So all you get now days are loud right wing nut cases and/or bad rock and roll.
[08:51:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03cwix [873] (Score:2) 02Re:What about AM radio? - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:49] <exec> 08└─In the United States AM is the band of radio that is licensed to stations and uses 540 - 1610 khz. This is also known as Medium wave.
[08:51:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Re:What about AM radio? - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah, we're mixing terms here a bit with modulation & frequency band. I think he meant analog AM on mid- to long-wave. That shit's here to stay, because it's dead simple, reliable and works with pretty much anything under the sun. Beyond line-of-sight is also quite a neat feature, especially out on...
[08:51:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:DAB is all or nothing - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 1086 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:53] <exec> 08└─Yet its the only differentiator of the product. If all you want is "adult hot contemporary" unfortunately there are about three stations shoveling that locally. If you want continuous techno then your only choice is buying a satellite HOWEVER the problem is every 0.1% of the listening audience wants...
[08:51:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:DAB is all or nothing - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:55] <exec> 08└─The other (related) problem satellite has is their window has already passed. I can't find a place where I can't stream on my phone
[08:51:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:DAB is all or nothing - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:56] <exec> 08└─Hmm good point I bet tunnels are interesting too. The stuff I listen to is downloaded, usually over wifi when the phones on a charger, so I don't care much, but some folks like to stream or like live sports or live shows. So that is a good point. Still eventually, theoretically the whole world's gon...
[08:51:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:DAB is all or nothing - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:58] <exec> 08└─Yet [the number of streams] the only differentiator of the product.
[08:51:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:This is even more LOL than DTV. - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:52:00] <exec> 08└─Hooking the cellphone to a pair of speakers seems like the option of the future for me.
[08:52:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Why are we still dealing with this over ten years - 06It's 2015 and Your Windows Server Can Still be Pwned by a JPEG - 57 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:52:02] <exec> 08└─Which part of "Microsoft product" did you not understand?
[08:52:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pseudonymous Coward [4624] (Score:1) 02Re:Why are we still dealing with this over ten yea - 06It's 2015 and Your Windows Server Can Still be Pwned by a JPEG - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:52:03] <exec> 08└─And then managed to only support booting from GPT-formatted USB sticks. [apple.com]
[08:52:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Who cares... - 06It's 2015 and Your Windows Server Can Still be Pwned by a JPEG - 1368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:52:05] <exec> 08└─Yes, and no. Buildings settle. Foundations shift. Crap happens. But, the problem isn't the rebar. The problem, if any, is created BEFORE the rebar is tied, the concrete is poured, or any later stage of construction. It's the GROUNDWORK! Dig down to bedrock. If that is not possible, drill piers down...
[08:52:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:That's what you get... - 06It's 2015 and Your Windows Server Can Still be Pwned by a JPEG - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:52:08] <exec> 08└─It's not necessarily the same bug? The same kind of wrongthink (let's execute data from an untrusted source!) can just as easily be added two or more times as it can once.
[08:52:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pseudonymous Coward [4624] (Score:1) 02Re:Robert Heinlein's Answer - 06It's 2015 and Your Windows Server Can Still be Pwned by a JPEG - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:52:18] <exec> 08└─Let's hope Minix3 pans out...
[08:52:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Ughh! - 06Pig Sludge Separation to Drinking Water - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:52:29] <exec> 08└─Really? Portland has "flushed" their 38-million gallon reservoir after a single individual pee'd in it. Twice. But only for human pee. Shaff [David Shaff, Portland's water bureau administrator] told the Mercury that the reservoir is not shut down for nature's transgressions. "If we did that, we'd be...
[08:52:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:outbreaks - 06The Rise of H3N2 Canine Flu in the US - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:52:59] <exec> 08└─You can include Canada, New Zealand, and Australia in the mix. Proper Socialized medicine there too.
[08:53:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:outbreaks - 06The Rise of H3N2 Canine Flu in the US - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:53:05] <exec> 08└─Over 100 champion dogs parished withen a week.
[08:53:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ape revolution - 06The Rise of H3N2 Canine Flu in the US - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:53:11] <exec> 08└─I'd horsewhip you if I had a horse. --Groucho Marx
[08:53:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Vaccine-altruism link - 06The Rise of H3N2 Canine Flu in the US - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:53:13] <exec> 08└─I had my dog vaccinated when he was just a pup, and my dog became altruistic! He keeps doing the same things over and over again, fetching my slippers, warding of threatening strangers, alerting me to any presence of quail in the living room. I only I had known beforehand! Why is the government try...
[08:53:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What about flatulence? - 06Something Smells: Cities Use High Tech to Investigate Unpleasant Odors - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:53:24] <exec> 08└─So if I fart and my neighbor can smell it can I be fined?
[08:53:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:What about flatulence? - 06Something Smells: Cities Use High Tech to Investigate Unpleasant Odors - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:53:25] <exec> 08└─Yes. Hanging over the fence like that with your pants down...really, you need to work on a longer term plan like, say, how you should spend the next hour...
[08:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03That_Dude [2503] (Score:2) 02Nothing new - 06Scientists are Using Electrodes to Remote Control People - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:53:39] <exec> 08└─I really wish I had a reference to cite for this one. I remember a Scientific American article, (somewhere from around 10 to 20 years ago), where a guy recorded nerve signals, from implants he put in his legs, as he walked around a two story office building. There was a hint of a follow up article,...
[08:53:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jaruzel [812] (Score:2) 02Re:Spoiler Alert - 06The Earth is 'Humming', and Scientists Think They Know Why - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:53:54] <exec> 08└─Deliberately didn't mention the Ocean Waves in the summary, coz, y'know it's a summary, and as good Soylentils we all should be following the links to the source and reading TFA. I bet you are the sort of guy that delights in telling people the endings of films they haven't seen as well.... :)
[08:54:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This hand-waving anti-renewables nonsense again - 06The Earth is 'Humming', and Scientists Think They Know Why - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:54:09] <exec> 08└─Bats have sonar. They are aware of other stuff in the air. Even for flying critters that don't have sonar, wind power is way, Way, WAY down on the list of dangerous stuff. Chart 1 [wikipedia.org] Chart 2 [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [thinkprogress.org] -- gewg_
[08:54:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Next car - 0643% of World's Electric Cars Bought in 2014 - 1254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:54:45] <exec> 08└─Sigh....you DO know that Oz has a vested interest in battery production for electric cars...right? I'd trust what they have to say about as much as the ecig studies paid for by RJ Reynolds. Show me a report from consumer reports or some other third party with ZERO connections to a government? Then w...
[08:54:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are electric cars really cleaner? - 0643% of World's Electric Cars Bought in 2014 - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:54:49] <exec> 08└─Comparing coal burning India EVs to SUV driving US, India EV did worse. But, it is definitely much better than I assumed. Apparently even China and the US with all their coal fired powerplants, but with natural gas in the mix too (other energy sources are pretty minor %) still did better with EV, an...
[08:54:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Petrol head more than happy to switch - 0643% of World's Electric Cars Bought in 2014 - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:54:54] <exec> 08└─I suspect its comparable to how some folks prefer vinyl. Its the imperfections that make it interesting. Electric is too smooth and sterile to provide all the the fun of hundreds of explosions a second and the associated sensory experiences.
[08:54:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Petrol head more than happy to switch - 0643% of World's Electric Cars Bought in 2014 - 914 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:54:56] <exec> 08└─I never quite got that, even though I'm superficially an vinyl nut (have hundreds of the damn things, and will never part with them), and an "audiophile" (hand-selected components, including hand-made speakers imported from another continent). The vinyl has character, in particular a character that...
[08:55:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Big on the Left Coast - 0643% of World's Electric Cars Bought in 2014 - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:55:05] <exec> 08└─L is for ‘Learner’ aka L-Plate [wikipedia.org].
[08:55:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's nothing - 0643% of World's Electric Cars Bought in 2014 - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:55:23] <exec> 08└─Also, while electric car numbers are increasing there is a long way to go. Per this recent item, the world has about a billion (thousand-million) IC cars at this time. https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] Put another way, current worldwide sales are about 80 mill...
[08:55:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That makes sense - 06Women Twice as Likely to be Hired for Academic STEM Posts as Men - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:55:48] <exec> 08└─No one is going to look beyond the first few pages. Google is literally useless for this.
[08:55:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:That makes sense - 06Women Twice as Likely to be Hired for Academic STEM Posts as Men - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:55:49] <exec> 08└─Otsing "campaign to attract males into nursing" ei andnud tulemusi. Tulemused campaign to attract males into nursing (jutumärkideta): Translation - if you keep the quotes in, there are *NO* hits.
[08:56:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Marand [1081] 02Re:Dear CoolHand - 06Women Twice as Likely to be Hired for Academic STEM Posts as Men - 162 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:16] <exec> 08└─Don't worry too much. Immature is one of those words that is used right now to specifically label and shame anyone that does not conform with a certain worldview.
[08:56:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Reality calling - 06Women Twice as Likely to be Hired for Academic STEM Posts as Men - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:28] <exec> 08└─He could cite articles eluding to his point
[08:56:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Reality calling - 06Women Twice as Likely to be Hired for Academic STEM Posts as Men - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:29] <exec> 08└─Eluding to: of a fact or logic that is missed by others. One person missed something, the other person provides it thus nullifying the need for further argumentation: the self-destructive point of all arguments. To allude would be less strong as that is merely in direction of instead of pointing out...
[08:56:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Reality calling - 06Women Twice as Likely to be Hired for Academic STEM Posts as Men - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:30] <exec> 08└─You know, your argument here would be stronger if it was not question begging: jmoris isn't wrong. He could cite articles eluding to his point, but he doesn't need to.
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[09:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:55] <exec> 08└─On Linux, 32 is unused. On FreeBSD, it is _SIGTHR (reserved for the threading library, a leftover reservation from the N:M threading work).
[09:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:57] <exec> 08└─Hm. The reason I switched to Linux seven years ago was largely because Windows XP problems had sucked the joy out of computing for me, and injected a lot of frustration in its place. :-p That said, I'm keeping a serious eye on Windows 10 and will probably give it a real try. While I had great experi...
[09:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Fix it - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 1108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:02] <exec> 08└─re: most people, true. Yet, I do not think we (as people who can fix things) should be held back by people who cannot do this. It is like saying: some people have no idea how to stick food in their mouths, therefore we should all just stop eating and advising people to eat. It think such attitude is...
[09:47:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 105 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:57] <exec> 08└─Start giving them swift (but open and fair) trials and prompt executions and the 'leak' problem will end.
[09:49:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:How to get Adderall? - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:49:30] <exec> 08└─If you were surprised to be prescribed a drug at a drug addiction clinic, I can only imagine how surprised you must now that it seems to have worked. You go from Heroin to Methadone to Adderall to ... nothing? Seems like you were successfully weaned of drugs by going through them in steps. Of course...
[09:51:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Or they want to sell subscriptions - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 1001 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:51:54] <exec> 08└─Do they plan on selling subscriptions to these radio stations? Or make it harder to operate a station without a license? In an emergency, not many will have the technology or expertise to begin broadcasting digital. Lots of people can build their own analog radio station (short range) within a few h...
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[10:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Sounds like the only customer I had to toss.. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 3553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:13] <exec> 08└─I'm quite proud of having almost infinite patience when it comes to dumb users, I always figure "I suck at engine mechanics, nobody is great at everything" and take it slow and easy. I mean for Pete's sake I taught an 83 year old woman who had never used a laptop how to use Netflix and Skype, just t...
[10:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What if he loved his computer? - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:14] <exec> 08└─If he liked his computer very much and made love with it, would he be charged with sexual relations with a minor (if the installation was less than 18 years old) ? There was a man who was arrested and charged a few years back for having sexual relations with his bicycle. And I have to agree, destroy...
[10:47:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's not widely reported - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:16] <exec> 08└─It wasn't widely reported, but the man was actually running linux with systemd.
[10:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Snail Lobby - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:44] <exec> 08└─as though they've forgotten the nature of humanity
[10:48:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One question to ask is why are there so many no - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:18] <exec> 08└─> And the answer is because the US is going to hell in a handbag. Or maybe its because the US government has become far less transparent and that whatever is wrong with the US government are the results of the loss of transparency (and therefor accountability).
[10:48:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my way of doing things - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:34] <exec> 08└─Sad to say, that's the approach that seemingly all of the so-called gardening companies, tree specialists, and supposed arborists in my area take. They took advantage of the influx of newcomers from major cities or extremely dry areas, and got it so the "in" thing is to remove all of the fucking lim...
[10:49:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only the exclusion of some things is a problem - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:49:53] <exec> 08└─But I guess PayPal has your real name, right? So if you were doing bad activity on Steam, there would be a way to find out your identity by getting the information from PayPal. It certainly is possible if the behaviour is bad enough to involve law enforcement, but possibly it works already on a lowe...
[10:50:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Dangerous precedent - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 954 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:50:07] <exec> 08└─Wow you must live a sad life with no proprietary software. So what BIOS does your computer use? What software does your router use? Your cable modem? Your television? Your microwave? Your car? Steam is a pretty good compromise as far as DRM is concerned. Do you have any idea what a pain it is to loo...
[10:50:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Hepatitis C? - 06Australian Scientists Cure Hepatitis B in Animal Trials - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:50:34] <exec> 08└─Can this be used for Hepatitis C in humans? it's a scourge for many societies.
[10:51:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:I would say they are really trying to do right - 06"Microsoft Open Technologies" MS Subsidiary Closes - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:51:14] <exec> 08└─Lets give them a chance before we chop their heads off.
[10:52:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Or they want to sell subscriptions - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:52:03] <exec> 08└─Your radio would need a back channel to do any spying.
[10:52:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or they want to sell subscriptions - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:52:05] <exec> 08└─Quite easy with a short-range transmitter sending beacon signals (even when powered off ?). It can listen for certain words in a conversation and keep a record of the last five minutes (30 minutes, 120 minutes...) on a circular buffer. If certain words are heard by the radio, it sends the beacon, so...
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[11:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02The problem is their audience, not the technology - 06Twitter Fights Trolls, Invites Trolls, and Trolls U.S. - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:46:45] <exec> 08└─The problem with services like Twitter, Facebook, old AOL, etc is the KIND of people they attract. There's no technological fix for flawed people except to avoid them. This was less of a problem when a certain level of competence was need to even get online at all.
[11:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:The problem is their audience, not the technolo - 06Twitter Fights Trolls, Invites Trolls, and Trolls U.S. - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:46] <exec> 08└─Name your elitism: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] ;)
[11:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:The problem is their audience, not the technolo - 06Twitter Fights Trolls, Invites Trolls, and Trolls U.S. - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:48] <exec> 08└─If it's elitism to require some basic competence, think throughly and not delve into irrelevant issues, then perhaps it's elitism.
[11:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02warmongering - 06Twitter Fights Trolls, Invites Trolls, and Trolls U.S. - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:46:50] <exec> 08└─It has extended its definition of violent threats to include "promoting violence against others."
[11:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:08] <exec> 08└─Go BSD?
[11:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Depends - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:21] <exec> 08└─Only as long as you use operating systems afflicted by the systemD infection.
[11:47:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Take his gun away - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:47:27] <exec> 08└─Obviously, this person is mentally unstable and should not be in possession of a firearm. Suppose a ricochet hit someone? What charges would be filed then?
[11:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Something not considered - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:48:00] <exec> 08└─Something not considered is only 1 in 1000 or so roads are one way, at least where I live, and it confuses the hell out of everyone when they try to navigate, so F with the phone or just panic or whatever and next thing you know, accident. Its about the same reaction and result with roundabout inter...
[11:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is "Chelsea"? - 06Leakers! Leakers everywhere! - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:27] <exec> 08└─Yes, I know. That's why I said "maximize". You can not only mod down people you disagree with on the page, but within the same thread this way. MAXIMIZE does not equal CAN'T. Lots of people on this website disagree with authoritarian positions.
[11:49:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Code Forrest Code - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:49:03] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but he didn't go around trying to name things after himself.
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[12:46:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 290 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:46] <exec> 08└─Can we all be honest? I love Linux and FOSS as much as the next guy, but if he had been running Linux he would have shot it 32 times several months ago. Or fed it a grenade. I've certainly felt that urge. It's far from a carefree experience. Not that $EVIL_CORP_OS is better, of course.
[12:46:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:48] <exec> 08└─What the heck distro are you guys using and what are you trying to do with it? Either you push the bleeding edge of alpha releases or you're trying to multitask running a steel foundry's controllers while playing UT and mining bitcoins or something. I've been running linux for a long time, too, 17 y...
[12:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:50] <exec> 08└─You've probably been running a mainstream arch like x86 or amd64. I've been running alpha, arm, and power. Still not having suspend to RAM or suspend to disk is a bit of a bummer. Proprietory hardware and firmware for the lose.
[12:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's be real here. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:58] <exec> 08└─freebsd just works. Its a relief to have something just work.
[12:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Sounds like the only customer I had to toss.. - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:13] <exec> 08└─Hairyfeet, I respect that you're trying to do right to your customers, but you have to admit that if one of them gets into trouble with viruses and whatnot because of receiving an e-mail, someone in the production chain is doing something wrong. And I don't think it's your customer, and I don't thin...
[12:47:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02It's not widely reported - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 79 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:14] <exec> 08└─It wasn't widely reported, but the man was actually running linux with systemd.
[12:47:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:It's not widely reported - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:17] <exec> 08└─They don't report it because it's "dog bites man" obvious. To put it in haiku terms: systemd-pollinated ubuntu, mere days pass, and a PC eight times gets shot. Coincidence? I think not.
[12:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Take his gun away - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:19] <exec> 08└─8 bullets hit my good friend PC, and you think about ricochets? you MONSTER.
[12:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02I just don't get modern computers - 06Colorado Man Ends Battle With Computer by Shooting it 8 Times - 1034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:20] <exec> 08└─I mean, here we've got something w/ more cache (let alone memory) than I used to have storage space, but the effective / perceived performance is still about what it used to be. When I got my first copy of Mac OS X running on a 400MHz G3, it felt about the same performance and was like to using my 2...
[12:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't matter - 06Senators Come Out Against Comcast-Time Warner Merger - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:38] <exec> 08└─The merged company will have even more of a monopoly on the buy side, when negotiating for content and labor. That hardly matters when you're talking about ESPN, but think about an entrepreneur pitching a new science channel. If Comcast won't pay a reasonable price for it, maybe TWC will. But "Bugs...
[12:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Something not considered - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:53] <exec> 08└─I kinda sorta get your point about one way streets - it can be quite annoying. But roundabouts? Seriously? For incoming traffic it's just like any old T intersection, for traffic in the roundabout it's just a street with way-of-right. It's really not rocket science!
[12:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Something not considered - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:56] <exec> 08└─Its about the same reaction and result with roundabout intersections. What the F is this shi.... "crash".
[12:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Something not considered - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:57] <exec> 08└─Dude.... just.. NO... roundabouts are awesome... they installed several on roads around here that used to back up for a mile or two during rush. Now, no line.. just slow down, cruise around it and go. Better for gas mileage, and wear and tear, environment (no electricity to run them), plus sanity. I...
[12:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Something not considered - 06One-Way Streets: Bad for Everyone but Speeding Cars - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:59] <exec> 08└─People freak out when they first encounter it because it's not common
[12:48:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Re:Not my way of doing things - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 62 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:38] <exec> 08└─You're 100% right, and I start following your advice tomorrow.
[12:48:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gman003 [4155] 02Re:Not my way of doing things - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 2172 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:39] <exec> 08└─The two mistakes in your analysis are these: You assume the entire path can be plotted beforehand. You assume you can never go backward until the very end. Not all projects can be perfectly planned. I would say very few can. Many projects are more like battleplans, in that they never survive contact...
[12:48:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sigma [1225] 02Re:Not my way of doing things - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 240 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:41] <exec> 08└─Often that leads to building a tall tower on bad foundation. Eventually you realize that the whole codebase needs to be scrapped and rewritten. Better to spend time on thinking and planning before you initiate an avalanche of bad decisions.
[12:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03lizardloop [4716] (Score:1) 02Re:Perhaps I wasn't clear... - 06The Crawford-Johnson Solution to Procrastination - 1770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:58] <exec> 08└─Thank you for posting this story. It's made me think a bit about my own approach to large projects. When I was younger I was very guilty of the "write something, anything" start. This usually resulted in a "working" but poor implementation that was a nightmare to maintain or expand. Very rarely did...
[12:49:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Adderall is amphetamine - 06Using Adderall in the Office to Get Ahead - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:49:38] <exec> 08└─Peak concentration is important with regard to toxicity. Yes Vyvanse is a prodrug but it's pharmacokinetics is quite different.
[12:50:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Extortion - 06Valve to Implement Two-Tiered Account System - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:37] <exec> 08└─Isn't this extortion? They are effectively asking me to pay protection money to continue using their service as I am now, which I have (indirectly) paid for already. Guess if they implement it, I'll have to send in an email and ask to be put on the "proper" tier (pretty sure I can prove I'm not an a...
[12:52:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03francois.barbier [651] (Score:2) 02Re:DAB is all or nothing - 06Norway to be First Nation to Switch Off National Analog FM Stations - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:52:00] <exec> 08└─Same here. Digital TV has been a downgrade here. 1) analog TV just turn on. No wait for that stupid decoder to load all its crap. II) digital TV decoders eat a lot of energy, even when the TV is off... You can shut it down but see point 4. C) digital TV is slow when zapping. Analog TV just zaps. Fou...
[12:53:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Ughh! - 06Pig Sludge Separation to Drinking Water - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:11] <exec> 08└─Don't be such a boar.
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