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[00:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Typo (formally correct title, but...) - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:41] <exec> 08└─Microsoft Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent
[00:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Typo (formally correct title, but...) - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:42] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure it's the non-MS part of Nokia that wants ALU.
[00:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Typo (formally correct title, but...) - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:43] <exec> 08└─http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Mobile [wikipedia.org] Microsoft Mobile was established following the acquisition of Nokia's Devices and Services division by Microsoft, which was completed in April 2014. While Microsoft retains a limited license to use the Nokia name and logo on feature phon...
[00:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:58] <exec> 08└─Pragmatical: how is this to be enforced? By de-anonymising the emergency callers? Are you sure you want that?
[00:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:59] <exec> 08└─I'm assuming the "it" (that you refer as "keeping up") is the swatting.
[00:17:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Soybean [5020] (Score:1) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:02] <exec> 08└─> The cops resort to overwhelming force without understanding the situation It's OK, they are just following procedure. And sadly, we can't really expect anything more of them than to follow procedure because procedure is what gives them CYA. The problem is "procedure" was designed for one specific...
[00:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:04] <exec> 08└─Swatting should be treated as attempted murder.
[00:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03gmrath [4181] (Score:1) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 2593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:06] <exec> 08└─Wow. Maybe understanding what "SWATing" is can help. An anonymous phone call (or e-mail, or text message, et cetera) is made to law enforcement saying some horrific crime is happening Right-This-Minute at this-and-that address of a (generally) innocent party. Then stand back and watch the show. Mayb...
[00:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Can someone please explain - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:11] <exec> 08└─Read the first link in TFS about how swatting works. The legislation this guy sponsored was pretty useless. Because swatters don't report the false crime in any traceable way. Even if caught (rarely) in most places they are guilty of only following a false police report, usually a misdemeanor, which...
[00:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Countries have always cooperated - 06US and China Working Together on Law Enforcement - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:25] <exec> 08└─Your link is so full of crap-java it is unreadable. Never the less, the situation is different, as we have treaties with China about this stuff, where as we never did have those with the British.
[00:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:"Sky Net" ?? - 06US and China Working Together on Law Enforcement - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:31] <exec> 08└─SkyNet is the network that labels any whistle blower or otherwise uncomfortable people as corrupt and let other countries chase them around the world for you.
[00:18:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Flawed with intention? - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:18:13] <exec> 08└─These machines seems so flawed that it looks like someone intentionally made them weak such that any election can be rigged.
[00:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:The important bits - 06Rocket Lab Unveils "Electric" Rocket Engine - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:29] <exec> 08└─Perhaps this is just a step before they do something additional that will gain some very useful advantage?
[00:18:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Re:The important bits - 06Rocket Lab Unveils "Electric" Rocket Engine - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:30] <exec> 08└─Like what? Once SpaceX perfects reusable launches (some time away, but lift rockets are not developed for a two to three year operational life span), expendable rockets will become utterly uncompetitive.
[00:19:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kymation [1047] (Score:1) 02I just got the email today - 06Downsides to Filing your IRS Tax Forms Electronically - 1073 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:06] <exec> 08└─From: office@irs.gov ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear taxpayer, You are receiving this notification because your tax refund request has been processed. Please find attached a copy of the approved 1040A form you have submitted, containing your personal informat...
[00:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Television corrupts minds - 06International Space Station Finally Gets Real Coffee - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:47] <exec> 08└─I thought of Shirley Jackson's The Lottery. [wikipedia.org] I also though of the ST-TOS episode where a guy had violated the Prime Directive [memory-alpha.org] and reworked a planet's culture in the form of Nazi Germany and they televised executions. -- gewg_
[00:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:The purpose.. - 06A Singapore Math Problem Goes Viral: When Is Cheryl’s Birthday? - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:40] <exec> 08└─And how exactly would you determine if you do not have enough information from them? ;)
[00:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:The purpose.. - 06A Singapore Math Problem Goes Viral: When Is Cheryl’s Birthday? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:41] <exec> 08└─So you're saying there's no poor communication, then.
[00:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:The purpose.. - 06A Singapore Math Problem Goes Viral: When Is Cheryl’s Birthday? - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:42] <exec> 08└─I'm saying that most communication is poor, and you try to make at least the essential communication - that can make or break your business - as clear and obvious as possible. It may well be that you will be listening to your contract being read aloud, in court. You want to make sure that you made a...
[00:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Cognative Filter - 06The Surprising Downsides of Being Clever - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:26:00] <exec> 08└─You cannot prove that anyone but you exists.
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[01:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:39] <exec> 08└─SN really needs to do something so that breaking news stories get on the front page sooner. Even /. covered this [slashdot.org] a day ago. This is old news now.
[01:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:40] <exec> 08└─He was only charged a few hours ago, and that information was included when the story went live.
[01:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Doug 'Cannon Balls' Hughes... - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:42] <exec> 08└─Any way you slice it , this was outright ballsy. And he at least warned them ahead what was going to be attempted, when, and how, and also...why. Rain, sleet, and snow will not keep the Mailman from his appointed rounds! Apparently add Secret Service and Capitol Security can be added to the list abo...
[01:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Almost inevitable: - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:44] <exec> 08└─"How long before copycats start doing the same" Probably soon. I just hope we don't get unduly heavy restrictions on gyrocopters, ultralights and other similar small radar stealthy private aircraft due to this.
[01:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Any idea how this will affect AL's network line? - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:55] <exec> 08└─First, this is Nokia proper, not the mobile division Nokia sold off to Microsoft, so no MS FUD please*. Where I work, we just decided to switch to Alcatel Lucent's ethernet switches (they have a Cisco like CLI BUT, they also give you a bash shell, sed, awk, diff, python, etc.). A little worried that...
[01:16:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Any idea how this will affect AL's network line - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:57] <exec> 08└─"The combined company will be uniquely positioned to create the foundation of seamless connectivity for people and things wherever they are," Nokia said in a statement. "This foundation is essential for enabling the next wave of technological change, including the Internet of Things and transition t...
[01:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:1) 02Re:Any idea how this will affect AL's network line - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:59] <exec> 08└─That's some vague BS.
[01:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Any idea how this will affect AL's network line - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:01] <exec> 08└─There's all sorts of vague BS before, during, and after a merger.
[01:17:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 288 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:08] <exec> 08└─The more the police state can be turned against itself, the better. The idiots passing these laws in their sleep ought feel the pointy end of the spear early, and often. Someday soon, the bankers who pull their strings will wake up to justice, too, and it will be a happy day for mankind.
[01:17:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03snick [1408] 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 73 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:11] <exec> 08└─Seriously messed up dude. Swatting should be treated as attempted murder.
[01:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:16] <exec> 08└─My response has more to do with what we can expect the actual reaction to be. Swatting won't bring us any closer to that change happening.
[01:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:18] <exec> 08└─Now, couple it with "Criminalizing swatting won't stop it" ...
[01:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:19] <exec> 08└─First, these fools won't be able to de-anonymize it. Second, people will, of course, ignore the law. We already know that Tough On Crime doesn't do shit.
[01:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:21] <exec> 08└─I'm not quite with you on this one. We may have to agree to disagree, but I think if they de-anonymized it *and* made sure that you'd get punished even if you, for example, swatted somebody in Florida from a computer in Alaska, that a couple of high-profile busts would dramatically reduce swatting.
[01:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:25] <exec> 08└─> An anonymous phone call Actually, swatting only works if the caller has enough knowledge to fool the 911's caller ID (why isn't that a federal offense?). Maybe the cops need better 911 systems, which would stop the problem at the dispatcher. Barring that, they should really think twice before pull...
[01:17:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:27] <exec> 08└─Actually, swatting only works if the caller has enough knowledge to fool the 911's caller ID (why isn't that a federal offense?).
[01:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:29] <exec> 08└─Now, I must attend to my arsenal and fondle my firearms.
[01:17:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03snick [1408] 02Re:Can someone please explain - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 212 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:30] <exec> 08└─Dunno about NJ, but in CA swatting is a misdemeanor. Totally out of synch with the seriousness of the action. SWAT teams kill people. Sending one to someone's house is like tossing a grenade through their window.
[01:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Can someone please explain - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:33] <exec> 08└─except that SWAT teams are made up of human beings responsible for their own decisions
[01:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Can someone please explain - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:35] <exec> 08└─That's not quite what I was getting it. They choose to do these things themselves, so there's no one to blame but them for their own actions. In an ideal world, they'd actually be held accountable when they violate people's rights.
[01:17:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:1) 02Re:Countries have always cooperated - 06US and China Working Together on Law Enforcement - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:50] <exec> 08└─It was pretty readable with NoScript on Pale Moon.
[01:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Countries have always cooperated - 06US and China Working Together on Law Enforcement - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:51] <exec> 08└─Could you let those guys know their website isn't working?
[01:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:2) 02Re:IRS FreeFile XML Errors - 06Downsides to Filing your IRS Tax Forms Electronically - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:29] <exec> 08└─So you are getting the actual XML errors? The IRS might as well post their DBA passwords on the front page of their website.
[01:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I just got the email today - 06Downsides to Filing your IRS Tax Forms Electronically - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:34] <exec> 08└─Should have forwarded that file to virustotal: https://www.virustotal.com [virustotal.com] At a minimum, I'd found it interesting how many spotted it and it would help spread immunity to more people.
[01:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Down With Coffee - 06International Space Station Finally Gets Real Coffee - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:54] <exec> 08└─At this point in the thread, I proclaim that this fowl has been fouled. Fouled beyond fowl by now.
[01:20:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Kick the addiction - 06International Space Station Finally Gets Real Coffee - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:20:17] <exec> 08└─Heh, right. "TV sucks!" "Bring back Firefly!"
[01:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy way to kick the habit - 06International Space Station Finally Gets Real Coffee - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:20:31] <exec> 08└─Depends on whether coffee seems to have a big effect on heart rhythm for you. For some people it definitely does. I seem to be able to get by with swilling the stuff so far. Not so for tobacco. I stopped smoking at 22 in 1984 and it was a good thing I did. My dad developed COPD and died of it, and I...
[01:21:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Previously Mentioned - 06Airliners Could be Vulnerable to Hacking - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:21:06] <exec> 08└─I've mentioned this topic before [soylentnews.org] and it has been a topic at DefCon [soylentnews.org] but people doubt the claims.
[01:21:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03khallow [3766] 02communication error? - 06Prosecutors Suspect Man Hacked Lottery Computers to Score Winning Ticket - 262 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:21:56] <exec> 08└─Well when it's brillig, of course slithy toves gyre and even gimble in the wabe. That's just what they do in the situation. We can just look at this a little bit here. Borogoves mimsy? Check. Mome raths outgrabe? Check. This is so obvious. Coherent we don't even
[01:23:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02Re:June 18 - 06A Singapore Math Problem Goes Viral: When Is Cheryl’s Birthday? - 33 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:23:26] <exec> 08└─No, I'm Cheryl, and so's my wife.
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[02:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:42] <exec> 08└─I'm open to suggestions from the editoral staff on how to better flag these items.
[02:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:43] <exec> 08└─Compare this to the Slashdot story, which started from the same submission link. It was a breaking news story yesterday, but today it is a fully fleshed out story with much more intriguing detail (the Tampa Bay Times reporter's involvement) and finally the charges filed about 4 hours ago. If it had...
[02:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:45] <exec> 08└─IMHO, posting followup articles isn't an uncommon practice w/ most websites. Granted, it would require someone to *post* a followup, but maybe make it clear on the submission guidelines that's acceptable, and just to include a link to the original.
[02:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Doug 'Cannon Balls' Hughes... - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:48] <exec> 08└─It was ballsy not because of his breaking the law and possibly being placed in immediate danger, but because (if he is a USPS employee) he could lose that his cushy job and that sweet pension as a result of his committing that heinous crime. Hopefully Grand-Dictator-for-Life Baraq Hussein Sotero and...
[02:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Doug 'Cannon Balls' Hughes... - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 1624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:50] <exec> 08└─Hughes knew there was a risk he could be shot out of the sky, though he hoped it wouldn't come to that. "I don't believe that the authorities are going to shoot down a 61-year-old mailman in a flying bicycle," he said. "I don't have any defense, okay, but I don't believe that anybody wants to person...
[02:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost inevitable: - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:51] <exec> 08└─So long as this one gets seized the message will be received loud and clear, those things ain't exactly cheap. Plus the guy needs to lose his license and be ineligible for a good long time. Pilots really don't want to be grounded, combine with losing the craft and this will be a one off event.
[02:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost inevitable: - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:54] <exec> 08└─Most licensed pilots and owners aren't the big worry. It's someone who uses one for a political message that doesn't really care if they get caught that are problems. Just have a couple of these get stolen and landed on the lawns of supreme court justices as mentioned in the intro (As an example: im...
[02:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02proof of a broken democracy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:16:55] <exec> 08└─pretty sad that the only way a citizen can get their representative's attention is either with large sums of money or stunts like this that get you locked up, and we all know that only the former will actually have any kind of effect.
[02:16:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:proof of a broken democracy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:57] <exec> 08└─They will pass a bill with tougher penalties for violating airspace. There will be no talk of campaign finance reform [npr.org].
[02:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Filter error: Please enter a Subject. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:16:59] <exec> 08└─Didn't know you had to register a gyrocopter. I tried to look up the process but wow, so lost. http://www.faa.gov [faa.gov]
[02:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I Love This Guy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 982 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:01] <exec> 08└─When I first heard about what this guy did it made me really happy. With all the 9/11 bullshit over-reaction there are still people willing to stand up and do something attention grabbing to make a political statement. And nobody shot him. He knew the risks, if you read the tampa bay times coverage...
[02:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:I Love This Guy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:17:03] <exec> 08└─We are mothers and fathers. And sons and daughters. Who every day go about our lives with duty, honor and pride. And neither snow, nor rain, nor heat, nor gloom of night, nor the winds of change, nor a nation challenged, will stay us from the swift completion of our appointed rounds. Ever.
[02:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I Love This Guy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:17:04] <exec> 08└─Helps that he was white.
[02:17:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:Typo (formally correct title, but...) - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 802 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:17:09] <exec> 08└─http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Mobile [wikipedia.org] Microsoft Mobile was established following the acquisition of Nokia's Devices and Services division by Microsoft, which was completed in April 2014. While Microsoft retains a limited license to use the Nokia name and logo on feature phon...
[02:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:17:34] <exec> 08└─Los Angeles police chief Daryl Gates, for exam- ple, once suggested that casual drug use amounts to “treason,” and that offenders should be “be taken out and shot.”
[02:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:17:35] <exec> 08└─making him just another violent hypocrite
[02:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Why are SWAT raids legal? - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:17:54] <exec> 08└─Yeah, it's an irony of SWAT raids. If things were actually so dangerous that all that armor and aggression was necessary, they wouldn't actually do the raids at all in the first place: cops aren't going to voluntarily do anything that puts themselves in significant danger.
[02:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Countries have always cooperated - 06US and China Working Together on Law Enforcement - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:10] <exec> 08└─Worked fine with Firefox with Noscript. I didn't have to allow any scripts either.
[02:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly Insecure? - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:47] <exec> 08└─I would call it more shocking that someone found the issues and actually Did something about it.
[02:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Flawed with intention? - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:02] <exec> 08└─I was tempted to mod you "funny", but, you know, it is not....
[02:19:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:The important bits - 06Rocket Lab Unveils "Electric" Rocket Engine - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:20] <exec> 08└─http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150413-united-launch-alliance-vulcan-rocket.html [planetary.org] ULA also announced a new rocket that will attempt to reuse the first stage engines (but not land the entire first stage booster).
[02:19:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03arashi no garou [2796] 02Visit the website - 06Downsides to Filing your IRS Tax Forms Electronically - 490 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:29] <exec> 08└─If I file my taxes with X tax preparation house and I get an email that looks like it's from X, I will ignore the email, type their website's address into my browser, and log in from there to verify the information. I do the same when I get emails that appear to be from my bank, especially since man...
[02:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:IRS FreeFile XML Errors - 06Downsides to Filing your IRS Tax Forms Electronically - 1166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:55] <exec> 08└─Your experience is exactly why I try to avoid "high tech" transactions. I got the same type of gibberish trying to sign up for healthcare. Just a whole bunch of pages that did not work. Dead links or required technology my browser does not have, or crap that would not make it through the corporate f...
[02:20:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kymation [1047] (Score:1) 02Thanks for the link - 06Downsides to Filing your IRS Tax Forms Electronically - 1435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:20:01] <exec> 08└─Here's the result (with a bunch of "found nothing" scrubbed out) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Complete scanning result of "confimation_3098-2344342.doc", processed in VirusTotal at 04/17/2015 03:32:51 (CET) [ file data ] * name..: confimation_3098-2344342.doc *...
[02:20:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Down With Coffee - 06International Space Station Finally Gets Real Coffee - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:20:30] <exec> 08└─It's a horrible fowl drink.
[02:20:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:Battle of coffee machine brands - 06International Space Station Finally Gets Real Coffee - 770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:20:58] <exec> 08└─At work we provide our own coffee. For a long while we had a simple 10-cup coffee maker. The problem was if only one person wanted coffee, he would have to make a pot which all wouldn't have been consumed. The extra coffee would be wasted. Then it was a pain to clean the coffee maker at work. We all...
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[03:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:1) 02This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:16:41] <exec> 08└─Reasonably priced, ad-free, good content that I can watch (almost) anywhere. Netflix has some not-so-famous gems hanging around: Foyle's War, BBC House of Cards, Poirot etc. It's the only reason I keep Chrome around. Now, if only the movie studios would license out more of their top-end movies for l...
[03:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:16:42] <exec> 08└─Do we really have the bandwidth in this country to stream everything as a separate stream to every tv tablet and mobile device? Nobody really uses multi-cast, so ever person watching becomes a separate tcp/udp stream. Maybe we do, but without on-plant caching, (like netfliks does) It seems unlikely.
[03:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:16:44] <exec> 08└─If we don't, then we should upgrade our networks. The fact that our current infrastructure is not sufficient for future means that we should improve, not stop the progress we're making.
[03:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:16:45] <exec> 08└─I think the market will push for upgrades, so this is good.
[03:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Netflix Shoes - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:16:47] <exec> 08└─You've got to put on your Netflix shoes Put on your Netflix shoes Everyone will start to cheer When you put on your Netflix shoes
[03:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:16:58] <exec> 08└─I think the follow up post is fine idea, but don't get too worked up about needing to get breaking news out there. If I want breaking news, I go to Google News. I come here for relevant and interesting technical news, the discussion, and the community. (It is a relief to know that there are other sa...
[03:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Doug 'Cannon Balls' Hughes... - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:17:02] <exec> 08└─Meh, he gets acquitted at any jury trial. I don't think the flying an unregistered aircraft charge sticks. According to this page [usua.org] there are no requirements to register an ultralight aircraft . Violating a controlled airspace (at the altitude he flew) may be illegal, but its not dangerous,...
[03:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Doug 'Cannon Balls' Hughes... - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:17:04] <exec> 08└─Honestly I think they are already going light on him. 2 charges and not 20? They can file more though.
[03:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost inevitable: - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:17:09] <exec> 08└─FAA has chosen not to promulgate Federal regulations regarding pilot certification, vehiclecertification, and vehicle registration. You don't need a pilots licence to fly one. You are expected to complete a basic course, but there is no check that you did so. So maybe they will take his driver's lic...
[03:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Typo (formally correct title, but...) - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:17:25] <exec> 08└─I thought the market was basestations for this transaction, not handsets. NYT includes Cisco as a competitor for example (javascript needed). http://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com]
[03:18:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02Re:Can someone please explain - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 102 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:18:02] <exec> 08└─SWAT teams kill people. Sending one to someone's house is like tossing a grenade through their window.
[03:18:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:I am not a member of the Eastern Coalition! - 06US and China Working Together on Law Enforcement - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:18:19] <exec> 08└─The two biggest bullies in the Pacific around get together to set up a protection racket...
[03:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:I am not a member of the Eastern Coalition! - 06US and China Working Together on Law Enforcement - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:18:20] <exec> 08└─Er... The two biggest bullies in the Pacific get together to set up a protection racket...
[03:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03rumata [2034] (Score:1) 02Re:The important bits - 06Rocket Lab Unveils "Electric" Rocket Engine - 1030 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:34] <exec> 08└─Your guesstimate doesn't start from a very useful point. The RD-170 is pretty much _the_ highest performance, highest pressure lox/kero engine there is (maybe except the Merlins). If you look at the picture on this page http://www.rocketlabusa.com
[03:19:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03rumata [2034] (Score:1) 02Re:The important bits - 06Rocket Lab Unveils "Electric" Rocket Engine - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:39] <exec> 08└─In fact, per kg to orbit, the Epsilon is about 2x as cheap
[03:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Proof by Repeatability - 06Getting to the Core of Dino Extinction - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:00] <exec> 08└─Only if we all get to wear Nikes.
[03:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:Fools! - 06Prosecutors Suspect Man Hacked Lottery Computers to Score Winning Ticket - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:18] <exec> 08└─Because you can't rig a ping pong ball machine?
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[04:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02booya - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:16:38] <exec> 08└─I think it is one of the best ideas for shareholders I've heard of in a long while. Nothing puts short term gains in the head of a ceo than golden parachutes
[04:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:booya - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:16:39] <exec> 08└─He owns the company with his brother and has done so since he was 19.
[04:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:1) 02Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:16:41] <exec> 08└─A CEO of a publicly traded company doing such a thing would be meaningful, but Gravity Payments is a private company. It doesn't really matter what the owners "pay themselves" as a salary, all of the profit is still theirs.
[04:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:16:52] <exec> 08└─Local caching would level the demand. All it would take is relaxation of current legislation forbidding having local storage.
[04:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:16:53] <exec> 08└─Now, if only the movie studios would license out more of their top-end movies for longer durations...
[04:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:1) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:16:55] <exec> 08└─Yeah, this is what sucks. Eventually, you'll need to subscribe to 10 different services to get access to most flicks. Irritating...
[04:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Netflix Shoes - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:16:58] <exec> 08└─Methinks someone didn't read the summary before modding.... ...to compete with Netflix shoes like House of Cards and Orange is the New Black....
[04:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Add Amazon to the list - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:16:59] <exec> 08└─You can participate and earn $10,000 [amazon.com] too!
[04:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Doug 'Cannon Balls' Hughes... - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:17:18] <exec> 08└─And I sure hope ballsy journalists will keep track of the names of those pressing charges.... Its high time people see the real faces of the people they vote into public offices.
[04:17:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:proof of a broken democracy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:17:25] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that our leaders are frightened of us, and seek to keep the ordinary people as far away from them as possible. This is not only an American thing, I don't live in The US, and yet I recently saw our Prime Minister in public. He was surrounded by armed Police, (they are called the Diplo...
[04:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:I Love This Guy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:17:31] <exec> 08└─Also the USPS logo on the tail of the gyrocopter was awesome. Just fucking awesome. They should put this guy on a stamp.
[04:18:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Sky Net" ?? - 06US and China Working Together on Law Enforcement - 921 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:18:52] <exec> 08└─I guessed I would find such comment when reading the summary. Chinese lesson to all Soylentils: "Sky Net" is a literal translation of "tian wang", coming from the phrase "天網恢恢" (tian wang hui hui, http://www.merit-times.com.tw [merit-times.com.tw]), which, in turn i...
[04:20:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Visit the website - 06Downsides to Filing your IRS Tax Forms Electronically - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:20:09] <exec> 08└─Not serious, but pretending to be most people over 40. Your solution is both effective and obvious (to people who 'get' it), but try explaining it to anyone who doesn't understand what the internet is.
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[05:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02you'll never patch MY backdoor, M$. - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:16:38] <exec> 08└─"It’s interesting. Ten years ago Microsoft was a big and strong company. Now they are the underdog." wow - M$ sockpuppets here, too? im0 they aren't the underdog, they're just a company which needs to fade away. a shame the new(er) generation(s) weren't schooled in M$ tactics and/or followed their...
[05:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:16:48] <exec> 08└─the $70k/year is what everyone who works for his company will now make at minimum. that is the newsworthy part. meanwhile, the ceo of mcdonalds just got a 69% raise [wsj.com] up to $1.1-fucking-million/year and its former ceo is raking in $3-fucking-million/year in "consulting fees", while the worke...
[05:17:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:17:01] <exec> 08└─Or, you know, the "broadband" providers could just provide the broadband they were supposed to decades ago in exchange for taking government money and tax breaks.
[05:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:proof of a broken democracy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:17:33] <exec> 08└─government should be afraid of its citizens, rather than citizens afraid of their government, however this shouldn't apply to individuals - there's no reason for a politician to be afraid of the people he represents. this feels like the 'lords' don't want to mingle with the peons and don't want the...
[05:17:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:I Love This Guy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:17:38] <exec> 08└─And old.
[05:18:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:19] <exec> 08└─My point: don't you dare tell me that smoking kills - I know it already, just let my tobacco alone, will you?
[05:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:20] <exec> 08└─Got that, my message was tongue-in-cheek anyway (an extrapolation of your comment I was replying to, I hoped with good signal of agreement). My apologies for not being explicit. (not to worry, I do take care about others while smoking).
[05:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:29] <exec> 08└─I consider FOUR firearms in one's possession to be a "minimum complement".
[05:18:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:31] <exec> 08└─As I was taught many years ago (by parents, family members, and my firearms safety officer), "Use the appropriate tool for the job."
[05:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Such a happy ending... - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:18:42] <exec> 08└─So this guy, who's "somebody," gets a friendly phone call before the police throw grenades through the windows, bust down the door, and maybe shoot a few people because... terrorism and shit. Why don't the rest of us get that option?
[05:19:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Re:HippsterRover - 06Bouncing Robots Could Replace Rovers on Future NASA Missions - 328 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:19:17] <exec> 08└─Hipsters don't take selfies. They take surreptitious photos of cute girls/boys in glasses staring wistfully out of cafe windows with a black-and-white film DSLR, while they wait for the silver nitrate paper in their tin-can pinhole camera to finish exposing an image of a homeless man sleeping under...
[05:19:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] 02Re:Shockingly Insecure? - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 395 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:19:34] <exec> 08└─To quite frank it would appear that this machine was willfully insecure. I mean it has so many easily available back doors it is like....ok not going to go there. I mean does anyone actually believe that such a machine was created that way by accident? No logs or records!? WinXP!? Seriously? So in o...
[05:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly Insecure? - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:19:37] <exec> 08└─No the saying that is most apropos to this situation is: "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."
[05:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only One Way to Do E-voting - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:19:52] <exec> 08└─> Missing from you scheme: auditability. That is what manual recounts are for. > counting low confidence scans (phase 2, 3rd bullet), I can buy the sole human you put in charge I really hate when people try to tear down ideas by playing dumb. Of course ambiguous votes would be inspected by a team wi...
[05:19:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Are we really shocked? - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:55] <exec> 08└─Given the history of badly insecure voting machines, ATMs, POS systems and other devices which *should* be fundamentally secure made by various companies, are we really that shocked anymore? It all really looks more like standard operating procedure than accident or even negligence... to the point w...
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[06:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:you'll never patch MY backdoor, M$. - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:16:46] <exec> 08└─you're quoting Manfred Weber, the chairman of the European People’s Party, the center-right party that is the largest voting bloc in the European Parliament
[06:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:you'll never patch MY backdoor, M$. - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:16:47] <exec> 08└─Wasn't Microsoft the one who started all this crap anyway? [kickassgear.com] ( fifteen year old article, BTW ) Same with the pissfighting with Novell NetWare ( IPX/SPX ). Remember "DOS ain't done till LOTUS won't run"? Ummm... whats fair for the goose is fair for the gander? Looks like the ganders...
[06:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02wtf - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:16:49] <exec> 08└─i was told it would only be a three hour tour a three hour tour then i was violated. sexually.
[06:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wtf - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:16:51] <exec> 08└─One Microsoft Way
[06:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wtf - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:16:52] <exec> 08└─Hairyfeet strikes again! Take that, you SJW!!!
[06:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wtf - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:16:54] <exec> 08└─i bet the professor did it - he always felt rather gay to me.
[06:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Boohoo - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:16:56] <exec> 08└─If a company has to cheat (swindle, racket, etc) to be profitable there is something fundamentally wrong with it, the system it operates in and the people who let it be that way.
[06:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Boohoo - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:16:58] <exec> 08└─It's how Microsoft succeeded from the start. Why are you surprised they're still doing it?
[06:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pherenikos [1113] (Score:1) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:17:06] <exec> 08└─Considering McDonalds has >1 million employees, if the CEO can improve their productivity by >1 dollar a year they will have earned their salary and then some. For the Gravity Payments, even with the new salary, considering their ~200 employees this corresponds to a value improvement of $350 per emp...
[06:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Money and happiness - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:17:08] <exec> 08└─"the emotional quality of an individual's everyday experience, the frequency and intensity of experiences of joy, stress, sadness, anger, and affection that make one's life pleasant or unpleasant" — rises with income, but only to a point. And that point turns out to be about $75,000 a year.
[06:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:17:18] <exec> 08└─Just remember there is a great deal of unhappiness while you scream at your screen watching some whirling buffering symbol every 50 seconds because the national championships you wanted to watch suddenly appealed to a much larger audience, namely EVERYONE across the country. You call and bitch, but...
[06:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Almost inevitable: - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 1093 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:17:49] <exec> 08└─-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We are marching into a bright future where almost anyone can 3d-print things like gyrocopters in a garage, along with guns and explosives. And rich people can build sexy and suicidal robot assassins. ~Anonymous 0x9932FE2729B1D963 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE...
[06:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:note - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:24] <exec> 08└─What a mess. No wonder so many kids want to go to law school...
[06:18:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:45] <exec> 08└─Swatting should be treated as attempted murder.
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[07:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Youtube - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:16:57] <exec> 08└─And by "blocking Microsoft Windows smartphones from operating properly with YouTube" they mean: Preventing us from accessing Youtube servers without permission, then not developing a Youtube app for Windows Phone just because we didn't want to pay for it.
[07:17:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tathra [3367] 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 350 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:08] <exec> 08└─the $70k/year is what everyone who works for his company will now make at minimum. that is the newsworthy part. meanwhile, the ceo of mcdonalds just got a 69% raise [wsj.com] up to $1.1-fucking-million/year and its former ceo is raking in $3-fucking-million/year in "consulting fees", while the worke...
[07:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:10] <exec> 08└─So what happens when he destroys their productivity?
[07:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:12] <exec> 08└─He gets a raise of course, just like the last CEO.
[07:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:14] <exec> 08└─Oddly enough minimum-wage earners are also paid in units of fucking-dollars. Just not the good kind.
[07:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:15] <exec> 08└─all of the profit is still theirs.
[07:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:47] <exec> 08└─Add another data point. There is a bazillion places on the net where you can engage in the kind of speculation and hyperbole that is inevitable in a "breaking news" fact-free stories. When something requires swift action, e.g. a large security hole is detected in common software and such, break it A...
[07:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost inevitable: - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 1820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:59] <exec> 08└─There will be. There is already talk about outlawing drones. The state will crack down. People will provoke it further. The state will crack down more. Each time, though, a few more people get the courage to fight, and so things grow. The way for the state to prevent that is to return to the Rule of...
[07:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Typo (formally correct title, but...) - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:22] <exec> 08└─Wrong. Nokia is not Microsoft, and Nokia seems not to intend to re-enter the mobile phone business. Nokia is a big player in the area of network infrastructure, and that business has exactly nothing to do with Microsoft. Why is it so hard to understand for people that MS didn't buy the Nokia company...
[07:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 1637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:58] <exec> 08└─So...rather than saying, "Hey, maybe we shouldn't send a SWAT team absolutely every time and go in with guns blazing," or, "Hey, maybe taking a Fallujah approach to policing is a bad idea and will lead to bad, bad things," it's, "Seriously messed up dude?" What is seriously messed up is that people...
[07:19:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:05] <exec> 08└─Now, I must attend to my arsenal and fondle my firearms.
[07:19:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:07] <exec> 08└─really don't like guns for what ever reason
[07:19:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Can someone please explain - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:17] <exec> 08└─The real legislation they need is to tone down Swat team usage and tactics.
[07:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:I am not a member of the Eastern Coalition! - 06US and China Working Together on Law Enforcement - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:30] <exec> 08└─That is a bit what it is, isn't it? It's so strange that two such enormous countries cannot stand each other but each has the other in a stranglehold. The Chinese need Americans to keep buying their junk, Americans need the Chinese to keep lending them money to buy their junk. Americans could solve...
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[08:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Youtube - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:12] <exec> 08└─I guess Google could always pull up some "cease and desist" letters and say by blocking content to Microsoft systems, they were only following the Copyright letter of the Law...
[08:17:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"cumbersome and costly to implement" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:17:30] <exec> 08└─a few lines of SQL and a light sprinkling of Perl or Python? Or are they saying it would be "costly" due to the well-informed demands to cut executive pay?
[08:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:41] <exec> 08└─Just remember there is a great deal of unhappiness while you scream at your screen watching some whirling buffering symbol every 50 seconds because the national championships you wanted to watch suddenly appealed to a much larger audience
[08:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:45] <exec> 08└─In exchange for "letting them off the hook", I expect to be "let off the hook" too, as far as trying to do work-arounds for their failure to deliver.
[08:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03SacredSalt [2772] (Score:1) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 1055 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:47] <exec> 08└─Before SBC got bought by AT&T, SBC had a ballot measure in Missouri to let them keep a huge wad of cash they had over billed to customers in exchange for wiring fiber to the home by a set date that has long since passed. When AT&T acquired SBC, they took on its liabilities. Considering it was a stat...
[08:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:49] <exec> 08└─We were supposed to be able to get "dry-loop" internet as part of our Yahoo/SBC/AT&T deal... Just try to get it.... Its one thing to "grant a concession" to Congress in return for their blessing. Its another thing completely different for any of us little guys to ask them to make good on it.
[08:18:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Common Joe [33] 02Re:Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 886 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:18:06] <exec> 08└─I think the follow up post is fine idea, but don't get too worked up about needing to get breaking news out there. If I want breaking news, I go to Google News. I come here for relevant and interesting technical news, the discussion, and the community. (It is a relief to know that there are other sa...
[08:20:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02the system is one - 06US and China Working Together on Law Enforcement - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:06] <exec> 08└─if I exchange money and information with you, we are already pals. The one dimensional system born from the fake communist vs. capitalist dichotomy keeps different flags to better control its population, not because nations are different from each other. Sure, they compete, resorting to wars even, b...
[08:20:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03threedigits [607] (Score:2) 02Very nice indea, but... - 06Bouncing Robots Could Replace Rovers on Future NASA Missions - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:18] <exec> 08└─The purpose of a robot in a mission is not to survive the impact, but to be able to *do* something after that. This kind of structure may be very resilient, but the load capacity is *extremely* low, so highly unpractical for a typical rover mission. That doesn't mean it doesn't have uses, but I don'...
[08:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Kick the addiction - 06International Space Station Finally Gets Real Coffee - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:33] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but you can't even capitalize properly. LoRdTAW indeed!
[08:23:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:But, a single network is cheaper! - 06Airliners Could be Vulnerable to Hacking - 1374 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:09] <exec> 08└─Nope. What will happen then is that the airport security will bring in some stupid, ineffective rule that all laptops and tablets must be opened at the airport and "scanned for terrorist software" (using some shitty Windows 8-only software scanner that only scans [1] for the one specific known threa...
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[09:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02citation needed - 06If You're Sweaty, Think Happy! - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:16:47] <exec> 08└─Caucasian females, with no psychological disorder
[09:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The trouble with self-defining standards - 06If You're Sweaty, Think Happy! - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:16:49] <exec> 08└─Caucasian females are the standard for normality in Misandrist America.
[09:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Perfume - 06If You're Sweaty, Think Happy! - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:16:50] <exec> 08└─So when will we see the first perfume made of the sweat of sexually aroused men? ;-) Collecting the sweat should also not be hard: I guess a job offer like "get money for watching porn, just wear our special sweat-absorbing clothes while you do so" should be fairly popular.
[09:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Perfume - 06If You're Sweaty, Think Happy! - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:52] <exec> 08└─Can I pay extra for nigger sweat? Take my money!!
[09:16:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My tinfoil hat is too tight - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:00] <exec> 08└─My tinfoil hat is too tight, but it doesn't matter, because I have forgotten how to socialize.
[09:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What not to use: - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:01] <exec> 08└─search engines.email.cell phone.social media.mobile apps.text messages.landline phone. I don't use any of these things, and I couldn't be happier. Ever since I stopped communicating with people, I don't have any unwelcome interruptions. I don't get spam anymore, because I never email anyone anymore....
[09:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Depressing - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:03] <exec> 08└─Barely a third of people are even bothered. That's fucking depressing.
[09:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Depressing - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:05] <exec> 08└─The other two thirds depend upon a circle jerk to validate their existence. Existing is basically all they do.
[09:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I myself take great pains to protect my privacy. - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:06] <exec> 08└─Just Sayin'
[09:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:42] <exec> 08└─Maybe, but if you take the poorest lowest payed Mcdonalds staff and put him in place of the CEO, what would the difference be for that productivity raise? If you pay someone much more than normal salaries, they should be able to perform much better than others. Just because the function in the compa...
[09:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"cumbersome and costly to implement" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:47] <exec> 08└─Learn the language. Cumbersome and costly are magical words in the realm of business legal responsibility. If they can convince others that at least the first and possibly the second applies, then any requirements placed upon them suddenly have far better chances to be voided.
[09:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:As an ex-Nokian - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:55] <exec> 08└─They are resurrecting the dead?
[09:21:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Refreshingly Democratic - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:21:16] <exec> 08└─How refreshingly democratic. Instead of making a voting machine where only the connected elite can manipulate the election, they made a machine where even the common people can do so.
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[10:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marneus68 [3572] (Score:2) 02Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:16:43] <exec> 08└─>Could this be the redemption of the Star Wars franchise? Nope. Not as long as the Thrawn Trilogy keeps being excluded form the canon.
[10:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:The trouble with self-defining standards - 06If You're Sweaty, Think Happy! - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:53] <exec> 08└─Illiterate troll is illiterate. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] If a time machine is ever invented, I'll send you on a mission to kill your mother...
[10:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Depressing - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:06] <exec> 08└─It is, but on the other hand tens of millions of people seem to have changed their behaviour. And that's just the USA, I'm sure the Snowden leaks have affected people's behaviour in other countries as well. But then maybe I'm just too optimistic, spring time and all...
[10:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:1) 02Re:Youtube - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:33] <exec> 08└─No, youtube doesn't work properly on Windows phones. If I go to youtube on my windows phone (yeah, I use one because it's awesome for txts, calls, and social and that's all I need a phone for other than music and they all suck at that), I'm lucky if I can search, because everything keeps moving arou...
[10:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:51] <exec> 08└─In the short term, that's no doubt true. The story also said that he's had 1500 applicants for jobs since making the announcement, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's able to grow the company quite quickly. Note that he said he'd raise the salaries to $70K over three years, so there's the potential t...
[10:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gravity Payments? - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:55] <exec> 08└─Sounds Potentially Energic!
[10:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:08] <exec> 08└─My kids accept the "buffering..." symbol without missing a beat because it's all they've ever known.
[10:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:35] <exec> 08└─Perhaps the problem is that it just takes a lot of time between submission and publication?
[10:18:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Doug 'Cannon Balls' Hughes... - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:42] <exec> 08└─If they screw up his life they will have their nice little presidential campaign wrecked. So hey "IT'S RAINING!" ;-)
[10:18:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost inevitable: - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:50] <exec> 08└─Think of the horror if the cameras pointing at Kardashians would fail for some unknown reason and the night of the ants would break out everytime the show went on air ;)
[10:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:proof of a broken democracy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:56] <exec> 08└─The problem is that there's always a very real threat to people in position of power regardless of them doing good or bad. So they have to surround themselves with guards and keep the distance. But one could always pat people down and allow them to be near. Some big figures actually went on to hands...
[10:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:I Love This Guy - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:03] <exec> 08└─I would like that postage stamp too!
[10:19:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Typo (formally correct title, but...) - 06Nokia Intends to Buy Alcatel-Lucent - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:16] <exec> 08└─You'll need to sacrifice your first born to get a peek at NyT..
[10:22:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Mixing memes - 06Downsides to Filing your IRS Tax Forms Electronically - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:22:14] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the heads up on spelling.
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[11:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 1152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:17:10] <exec> 08└─Why bother? When so few (likely none) movie or TV adaptations of any books are ever as good as their original formats. At this point, no Thrawn movie will ever be as good as the book and will instantly be slated were it made. For the same reason as they change things in HBO's adaptation of GoT, I'd...
[11:17:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The trouble with self-defining standards - 06If You're Sweaty, Think Happy! - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:17:21] <exec> 08└─What does demographic data have to do with cultural norms?
[11:18:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:18:38] <exec> 08└─We should distribute the content using efficient means instead. Multicast should be used for starters. Then one could use satellite and air networks for live events. And mass download of shows the rest of the time. Generic cache server hubs should be installed to alleviate some of the load. It seems...
[11:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Re:The important bits - 06Rocket Lab Unveils "Electric" Rocket Engine - 936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:22:21] <exec> 08└─Thanks for correcting me. I didn't notice that the 100kg they quoted was for a 500km SSO. I was going by the original article's infographic, which just said "110kg to 500 km orbit" and $6.6M. Assuming both were to a regular (easterly) 500km orbit, that would come to $54k/kg for the Epsilon and $60k/...
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[12:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Since you asked... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:40] <exec> 08└─I'll go for the toe strings and stick-poking.
[12:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Truth is the only language nature will respect - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:42] <exec> 08└─Techies deal with the natural world. The natural world only have place for truth or your gadgets stop working because they are immersed in nature and Techies ought to know that groupthink is flawed, thus you need privacy. So there's a fundamental mismatch with the organizations that is into the lyin...
[12:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:43] <exec> 08└─> Well, what do techies say, agree with the VC or string them up by their toes and poke them with sticks? Inquiring minds want to know... I question your mind if you had to inquire.
[12:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:54] <exec> 08└─I think that you can say that most books are always better than the film adaptations. Enders Game for example was a great book, the film was only meh. Another one is 2001. Awful film, great book. The problem the hollywood types have is trying to squeeze a book that could be several 10's of hours lon...
[12:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:55] <exec> 08└─Oh come on, the "Twilight" moves were just as good as the books.
[12:16:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrsam [5122] (Score:2, Interesting) 02I've got a bad feeling about this - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 1389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:57] <exec> 08└─It's not even funny how scripted, and predictable this trailer is. It follows the stock JJ Abrams formula for "Trailers For Old Franchise Revivals". That formula has just two key ingredients: 1. The trailer is just a bunch of disconnected scenes, stitched together, that mean absolutely nothing. Afte...
[12:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:citation needed - 06If You're Sweaty, Think Happy! - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:04] <exec> 08└─I, for one, welcome our new 36 females with no psychological disorder. Parallel universes exist, and they must be from one of the least parallel ones. inb4 accusations of sexism: I reproduce through mere kernel syscalls so I am well above your petty sex diatribes.
[12:17:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Boohoo - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:43] <exec> 08└─Good, you explained the world in one sentence.
[12:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:31] <exec> 08└─> Time Warner controls heaps including HBO and Warner Bros, Time Warner Cable hasn't been associated with Time Warner since 2009. [wikipedia.org]
[12:20:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:13] <exec> 08└─I agree that 4-5 guns isn't a big problem (provided they're properly stored and maintained - no more stories of 6-year-olds accidentally blowing somebody's head off please). There are private arsenals though: Owners with closer to 100 firearms in their possession and a group of people who intend to...
[12:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Re:The important bits - 06Rocket Lab Unveils "Electric" Rocket Engine - 1253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:00] <exec> 08└─Point taken, but without more detailed engine data we won't know for sure. At present, their website is rather light on that, my I guess they're still working out basic stuff. And yeah, upon closer examination, your 4-5MPa seems more realistic, though I came up with a somewhat different nozzle area...
[12:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03arashi no garou [2796] (Score:2) 02Re:Visit the website - 06Downsides to Filing your IRS Tax Forms Electronically - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:21] <exec> 08└─You might want to move the threshold up a decade or so. Keep in mind most forty-somethings came upon computers (mostly Apple IIs and Amigas) in high school and college. It's the fifty-somethings and up who are still (as a group) technologically challenged. To put it another way, I'll be 38 this year...
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[13:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:43] <exec> 08└─Why? The answer could still be "no", in case techies think stringing them up by their toes and poking them with sticks is not the only alternative to agreeing with them.
[13:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:44] <exec> 08└─Yeah, it's a conversation-starter. I know where I stand, but the reader can probably infer that. My sense is that the VC wants to have his cake and eat it, too. He wants his investments to be disruptive enough to earn him quick multiples on his dollar, but not have that disruption make any waves and...
[13:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:46] <exec> 08└─The VC only wants the disruption within a certain range.
[13:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've got a bad feeling about this - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:57] <exec> 08└─You left out the obligatory Joss-Whedon-snap-zooms
[13:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Going to be... - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:58] <exec> 08└─terrible. How can you possibly tell a coherent story without all the lens flairs?
[13:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Perfume - 06If You're Sweaty, Think Happy! - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:13] <exec> 08└─If that has any effect at all it could turn out that it only attracts females who are ovulating or something like that. It might even repulse all the rest.
[13:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wrong Story - 06If You're Sweaty, Think Happy! - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:14] <exec> 08└─> those dirty socks you were wearing when you won that epic Ultimate Frisbee finale Shouldn't these socks be down in the article below this about the Pew Report.
[13:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What not to use: - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:24] <exec> 08└─I bet you prefer real sex to the cyber thing as well... YOU FREAK!
[13:17:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Depressing - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 70 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:26] <exec> 08└─Barely a third of people are even bothered. That's fucking depressing.
[13:17:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02Re:Depressing - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:28] <exec> 08└─The others also watch Fox "News"
[13:17:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:1) 02Re:Depressing - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:30] <exec> 08└─The problem is that it's hard to switch over when the people you communicate with are on shitty, unsecured networks. I had the girlfriend switch over to Signal (https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal/) and we've started using Adium with OTR. PGP email is next, but getting my other friends to shift i...
[13:17:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] 02I myself take great pains to protect my privacy. - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 11 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:32] <exec> 08└─Just Sayin'
[13:17:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Spying on electrons - 06Physicists Spy on Random Motion of Electrons with Defective Diamonds - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:39] <exec> 08└─Who needs physicists? Just declare the electrons terrorists and NSA will spy on them professionally.
[13:17:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Spying on electrons - 06Physicists Spy on Random Motion of Electrons with Defective Diamonds - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:41] <exec> 08└─If it allows them to create a quantum computer and try to break all existing encryption, they will try to do it anyway.
[13:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Youtube - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:01] <exec> 08└─Did you try in a real browser? Or is Google also blocking Firefox on Windows Phone?
[13:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cain and Abel? - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:03] <exec> 08└─So they think Microsoft will kill Google?
[13:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:17] <exec> 08└─Not quite. There's a floor of 0 dollars in the CEO's salary. An instrument like that is worth more than one without such floor.
[13:18:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:47] <exec> 08└─Time Warner Cable hasn't been associated with Time Warner since 2009.
[13:18:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why you should not use Netflix - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:51] <exec> 08└─https://defectivebydesign.org/netflix [defectivebydesign.org]
[13:21:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Criminal. - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:21:35] <exec> 08└─So you advocate discrimination against the dead? :-)
[13:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Only One Way to Do E-voting - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:01] <exec> 08└─would just fake out the hash, which as you've proposed it is nothing more than a serial number. Just because the system says "yes this serial number is in the system" doesn't prove that it was actually counted.
[13:22:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What did they think "WIN" stood for? - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:06] <exec> 08└─What did they think that "WIN" in "WINVote" stood for? Of course it stands for: Weak passwords Insecure OS and networking No firewall
[13:25:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fools! - 06Prosecutors Suspect Man Hacked Lottery Computers to Score Winning Ticket - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:08] <exec> 08└─With a ball-drawing machine, there's no child (or other human being) involved in the actual drawing. Any manipulation therefore would have to be on the machine or balls, before the drawing begins.
[13:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fools! - 06Prosecutors Suspect Man Hacked Lottery Computers to Score Winning Ticket - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:11] <exec> 08└─Note that I explicitly included checking the weight of the balls. Had this been done back then, the rig would have been detected before the drawing occurred.
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[14:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dirty Hippies - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:16:40] <exec> 08└─The dirty hippies are more likely to have toe cheese than eat GMO anything, even if vegan.
[14:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Dirty Hippies - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:42] <exec> 08└─Indeed, Richard Stallman considers his own toe cheese a delicacy. [youtube.com] Which is pretty typical of free software users, and why you mentioned it.
[14:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirty Hippies - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:44] <exec> 08└─http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/32736/title/Beard-Beer/ [the-scientist.com]
[14:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Evolution is there the screw you - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:16:45] <exec> 08└─For thousands of years the adaption between human consumers and food in nature has been happening by the means of extinction. Now people want to alter that balance and see which groups which will be essentially poisoned by this kind of products because they change the balance yet again? So no one di...
[14:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Evolution is there the screw you - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:47] <exec> 08└─If the end product contains the very same molecular components that can be found in any milk or cheese, or vanilla, or saffron, what's the difference? People have eaten those things for centuries or millennia.
[14:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02base pair cost - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:16:50] <exec> 08└─Here's a service that offers as low as $0.23 per base pair: http://www.genscript.com [genscript.com] Eventually we might measure the cost in kilobase pairs per cent: http://www.3ders.org [3ders.org]
[14:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Vegans vs. GMO - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:16:52] <exec> 08└─The Real Vegan Cheese team notes that the cheese itself isn't a GMO, only the yeast is.
[14:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Truth is the only language nature will respect - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:58] <exec> 08└─So VC wants his investments objects to play nice with government to have less hiccups in his path to profit I think you hit the nail on the head. There is no better way to a path of profits than a gov mandated monopoly. It makes barriers to entry high for your competitors. You get locked in regions...
[14:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:03] <exec> 08└─when you are disruptive enough to earn a lot of money you have to do it by breaking the rules, because the rules to the game as it is are rigged
[14:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 2414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:04] <exec> 08└─Work with the government? No! Run the government! This is only more propaganda, and particularly offensive and boneheaded propaganda at that. Trust them? Trust the powerful?!? The rich and powerful get to run the government, and we're supposed to play nice and cooperate while they treat the nation a...
[14:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:4, Insightful) 02That guy needs to shut the F up - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 1271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:06] <exec> 08└─I'm older (in my 40s) and believe it or not have worked for the govt for most of my life. But that doesn't stop me from saying, 'that guy needs to shut the F up.' Techies are innovators and problem solvers. The government is not naturally a force for innovation, it's a force for the status quo. That...
[14:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wrong audience - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:08] <exec> 08└─It's not the 'techies' who need to play nice with the government. It's the profit businesses who need to play nice with the government. (Or the government who needs to play nice with the profit businesses.) The Internet was a really nice place until the profit motive fucked it all up. Shame we can't...
[14:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How bout government getting along with techies? - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:10] <exec> 08└─Aaron Swartz turned his back to venture capitalists and the government killed him.
[14:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Daiv [3940] (Score:2) 02VC want money without hurdles - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:11] <exec> 08└─The point of most VC's is to get a huge return on their "investment", ideally asap. Of course they wouldn't want their investments spending money on things like lawsuits or just challenging laws. Hell, I'm sure the VCs would love for their investments to accept payola to allow government backdoor ac...
[14:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Get along? Where would we be? - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 1059 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:13] <exec> 08└─One of my great-great-many-many-great Grandpas discovered fire. He brought it home, glowing on a stick, and fed it after he got there. He wanted to keep it in a little stone bed that he made for the fire. The Cave Council members took note of this smelly new pet that Great . . . Grandpa had. They se...
[14:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:20] <exec> 08└─Another one is 2001. Awful film,
[14:17:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nerdfest [80] 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 64 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:22] <exec> 08└─Oh come on, the "Twilight" moves were just as good as the books.
[14:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:23] <exec> 08└─I will admit that on the 'goodness' scale, they do occupy the same position.
[14:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:25] <exec> 08└─Fifty Shades of Poo.
[14:17:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:27] <exec> 08└─The point is not to adapt the Thrawn series to film, just accept that they happened in the same universe and allow the characters that became important in those books to play significant roles in the films. This, of course, can't happen without completely disregarding the prequel trilogy.
[14:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:I've got a bad feeling about this - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:29] <exec> 08└─All your points would be valid, if this were actually a trailer. What was released yesterday was called the second *teaser* though, and I always saw teasers as trailers for the actual trailer.
[14:17:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03jbWolf [2774] (Score:2) 02Re:Going to be... - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:30] <exec> 08└─Did you mean with or without? In either case, I gotta comment [theguardian.com] about it. I saw the second Star Trek movie in the theater and it had lens flares coming out the wazoo BUT when it went to DVD, they removed them. It definitely looked a hell of a lot better without them. (Yes. I liked th...
[14:17:31] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02The force then hits the snooze button - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 37 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:32] <exec> 08└─Quietly muttering "Five more minutes"
[14:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 024 rules of Star Wars: - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:34] <exec> 08└─This video got a lot of attention and was so well done, it's very likely he saw it, I'm just hoping he listened: 4 rules of Star Wars: A fan’s plea to J.J. Abrams [youtube.com] For the non-video folks, here are the rules: The setting is the frontier (it's a western)The future is oldThe force is my...
[14:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:1) 02Re:4 rules of Star Wars: - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:36] <exec> 08└─ahhh... film noir... battered characters in trenchcoats... old places soaked in smoke, rain and fog... godlike dialogues... characters who don't fucking grin when they kill, but walk away sad... characters that act as if the adversary was worth more than just a shit... characters who act, and greet...
[14:17:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:1) 02speaking as an old troll... - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:37] <exec> 08└─...i miss the female characters I could kind of fall in love with =) Take princess Leia, for example, or Rachel in Bladerunner, or the woman in Dune, or the woman Jill in the western movie Once upon a time in the West, or the animated woman character in Final Fantasy, or almost any female from anime...
[14:17:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reminder - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:39] <exec> 08└─http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/17/apple_lightsabers_to_feature_in_ithe_force_awakensi/ [theregister.co.uk]
[14:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Depressing - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 2117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:04] <exec> 08└─I wonder if they asked if anyone used security precautions prior to the revelations? Those that are close to the IT industry, often the experts, already were aware of the dark underbelly of what could be possible and what was possible, if not directly aware of what was happening. The unseemly side o...
[14:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:I myself take great pains to protect my privacy - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:06] <exec> 08└─You were already pegged at 5 and despite that, I thought this comment was so funny, I had to add another +1 to it.
[14:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02How are we supposed to change our habits? - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:08] <exec> 08└─I switched to duck duck go as a search engine, but that's about it. Haven't had a land line since '08. email? texting? mobile apps? What exactly can I do with these to guard my privacy except not use them? I tried to encrypt my email in the 90's but for that to work both parties must participate. Mo...
[14:18:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:you'll never patch MY backdoor, M$. - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:27] <exec> 08└─> they're just a company which needs to fade away. I don't want them to fade away, I just want them to fade enough that they end up facing lots of competition. I want google to do the same thing. An MS/Google duopoly is only marginally better than an MS monopoly. The more the market fractures, the s...
[14:18:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 831 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:57] <exec> 08└─while the workers have to get welfare just to be able to survive Mcdonalds is not MEANT to be a job for life. Well maybe if you become a manager. It is a stepping stone job. It is 'the starter job' where you learn things you need for other jobs 1) be polite even when everyone else is a dick and yell...
[14:19:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:17] <exec> 08└─Then maybe, perhaps, they should have taken the subsidies they've been receiving to upgrade said capacity and actually use it to upgrade said capacity, instead of using it as profit. They were paid, they did not deliver, if this were a restaurant we'd get our money back.
[14:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why you should not use Netflix - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:33] <exec> 08└─Normal people don't use GNU/Linux or "only free software" to watch a streaming video service. They don't care about encrypted media extensions. Linux users can watch Netflix on Ubuntu or PCLinuxOS using Google Chrome. That page has no relevance or impact for over 99% of Earth.
[14:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:49] <exec> 08└─If there's an editor that notices the submission right away, of course they can send the story to the top pretty quickly, but news comes in 24/7, and we only have ~5 active editors.
[14:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Old news - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:50] <exec> 08└─Perhaps it's the amount of editing that is the problem? Some basic fact checking all input has to be subject to of course. The level can be debated otoh.
[14:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Doug 'Cannon Balls' Hughes... - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:58] <exec> 08└─So it was a protest, no more unsafe, and a lot less unruly than the occupy movement, which did untold property damage and nobody went to jail.
[14:21:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] 02Re:Why are SWAT raids legal? - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 273 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:21:28] <exec> 08└─Yeah, it's an irony of SWAT raids. If things were actually so dangerous that all that armor and aggression was necessary, they wouldn't actually do the raids at all in the first place: cops aren't going to voluntarily do anything that puts themselves in significant danger.
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[15:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Dirty Hippies - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:46] <exec> 08└─Hey, but what about scientific environmentalists who have to tacitly acknowledge the harm caused by large scale animal farming, while still thinking animal products are delicious? What about us?
[15:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirty Hippies - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:48] <exec> 08└─petri dish meat FTW
[15:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirty Hippies - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 1181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:50] <exec> 08└─I predict that someday the most common meat will be lab grown human flesh. Why? I think lab grown meat will eventually be perfected. At first it will be made of normal farm-type animals of course. Many vegetarians and vegans will start eating this meat because it isn't killing animals to do so anymo...
[15:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Evolution is there the screw you - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:52] <exec> 08└─Guess what? Us having nukes is literally just idiots messing with nukes. We're an imperfect species. And overpopulation is threatening the long term stability of modern agricultural practices, which were needed because traditional agricultural practices couldn't sustain the population we had 30 yea...
[15:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:base pair cost - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:54] <exec> 08└─That first number is at the same time, very very very cheap(when you imagine how expensive custom chemistry is normally) and very very expensive(when you realize how many base pairs are in even a simple gene. The second one is just plain cheap.
[15:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Vegans vs. GMO - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:56] <exec> 08└─They asked for $15k on Indiegogo and received $37,369, and almost none of the backers will actually get to try the cheese. If DNA synthesis costs decline enough, anybody could try to make their own using the free research which has been done for them, with a similar cost to say, homebrewing beer as...
[15:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Vegans vs. GMO - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:57] <exec> 08└─How exactly would they separate the yeast from the cheese? Even if they kill all the yeast, presumably their GMO cellular corpses will still be in the cheese.
[15:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:1) 02Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:59] <exec> 08└─Vegans are against enslaving animals to create consumable human products .... right? Well, aren't yeasts alive? The live, metabolize, reproduce, die, etc.... So eating cheese (or alcohol for that matter) from yeasts are enslaving the yeasts .... right?
[15:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:01] <exec> 08└─You have to draw the line somewhere. Microorganisms don't have brains or "will" or "sentience" or "sapience". They are basically chemical machines with an input and an output. This genetic engineering is simply changing the output. Bacteria in the human body outnumber human cells 10 to 1. You are pr...
[15:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:03] <exec> 08└─Yeast are not part of the animal kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal). Usually vegans draw the line at the presence of a central nervous system.
[15:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02Vegans - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:04] <exec> 08└─What about the level 5 vegans [urbandictionary.com] that don't eat anything with a shadow.?
[15:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Be Careful, Biohackers - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:06] <exec> 08└─You could give the happy cows of California [youtube.com] a sad.
[15:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdccdevel [1329] (Score:3, Informative) 02Milk Casein Alergies and Vegan Labelling - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 1458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:08] <exec> 08└─Some people with Milk Casein allergies eat Vegan "Cheese" because they can't eat regular cheese at all. (Lactose Free isn't good enough, since it's a allergy to milk protein not the lactose.) The Vegan label is really helpful to people with milk protein allergies, not just those who decide to follow...
[15:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Not quite vegan - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:10] <exec> 08└─So they are putting a little bit of animal DNA into those microbes right? I guess all you REAL vegans still won't be able to eat good cheese because those microbes were in some small part derrived from animals. I'll shed you a tear as I eat my cheseburger! :-P
[15:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Not quite vegan - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:12] <exec> 08└─If you take the casein expressing gene from the genetically-engineered yeast and put it into a plant, is the plant now a fungus? :-P
[15:17:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kaszz [4211] 02Truth is the only language nature will respect - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 768 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:15] <exec> 08└─Techies deal with the natural world. The natural world only have place for truth or your gadgets stop working because they are immersed in nature and Techies ought to know that groupthink is flawed, thus you need privacy. So there's a fundamental mismatch with the organizations that is into the lyin...
[15:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 1637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:21] <exec> 08└─The examples of Amazon and eBay are good instances of not playing by the rules. They stepped outside the legal regime that governs their competitors. Brick-and-mortar stores have to pay rent & sales taxes, comply with local regulations when siting their stores, etc, etc. All those things constitute...
[15:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 1212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:23] <exec> 08└─Aha, I see: You're talking about doing something different than their competitors. I was thinking you meant "Deliberately trying to avoid government-mandated responsibilities" (there are definitely businesses that do that, e.g. Uber). I take it "breaking the rules" is a catchphrase that means "Don't...
[15:17:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zafiro17 [234] 02That guy needs to shut the F up - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 1271 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:25] <exec> 08└─I'm older (in my 40s) and believe it or not have worked for the govt for most of my life. But that doesn't stop me from saying, 'that guy needs to shut the F up.' Techies are innovators and problem solvers. The government is not naturally a force for innovation, it's a force for the status quo. That...
[15:17:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That guy needs to shut the F up - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:28] <exec> 08└─> I'm older (in my 40s) On this site that makes you young.
[15:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:How bout government getting along with techies? - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:29] <exec> 08└─Aaron Swartz turned his back to venture capitalists and the government killed him.
[15:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:46] <exec> 08└─I just want a good buddy flick, like 48 Hours, with Han Solo and Lando Calrissian. Is that too much to ask?
[15:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:I've got a bad feeling about this - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:50] <exec> 08└─Lens flair? I think there was a momentary glint or flash off of Harrison Ford's cane.
[15:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Going to be... - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:53] <exec> 08└─Didn't the very first Star Wars have a prominent lens flare when the Falcon arrived to save the day?
[15:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Reminder - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:59] <exec> 08└─I'm just hoping that if one of the characters finds a light saber it has a purple blade and has "B.M.F." on the handle.
[15:19:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:44] <exec> 08└─Mere ability to request, and presumably consume, content is not progress. Then again, burgers so big that they're practically uneatable and which you get for free if you complete them were also considerd progress in the same part of the world.
[15:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:52] <exec> 08└─Well this seems the next great frontier for the FOSS movement--free high-speed connectivity for everyone. Latency is the killer. If simultaneity is not required, cheap storage and automatic caching could solve a lot of that.
[15:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Add Amazon to the list - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:20:00] <exec> 08└─and in return amazon gets that back 100 fold. yeah, seems fair. -_-
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[16:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:41] <exec> 08└─As a software developer I've always considered piracy free marketing penetration by people who mostly would not pay for it in the first place, and then those who find they like it and then buy. As a music listener I used to like being able to try out different music which when I found someone I like...
[16:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Great Summary! - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:42] <exec> 08└─This summary is more than thorough and informative. I realize that most stories won't have this much meat, let alone their summaries, but I appreciate the effort that takyon (and the editor?) made with this one.
[16:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirty Hippies - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:56] <exec> 08└─If you can create the DNA of the starter cell synthetically from a known sequence and insert it into a synthetic nucleus and cell, you can reduce the suffering of the animal kingdom to an ultimate minimum! I for one welcome our lab grown penguin, lion, narwhal, and of course, human burgers. The ulti...
[16:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirty Hippies - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:57] <exec> 08└─Soylent News / Green / Steak is people!
[16:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:09] <exec> 08└─I've never found vegans to be very logically consistent. Given the number of dead insects on the front of motor vehicles, no true vegan should ever drive or even ride in a car. But insect lives don't matter...
[16:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:10] <exec> 08└─I've never found people to be very logically consistent. People make choices based on many things and rationalize afterwards. Many vegans try to do the least harm. There is also plenty of animal death (mainly rodents) when crops are being harvested.
[16:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:11] <exec> 08└─Many vegans try to do the least harm. There is also plenty of animal death (mainly rodents) when crops are being harvested.
[16:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:13] <exec> 08└─Not all vegans are vegans out of animal rights arguments. Some are vegans because the environmental impact of the meat and dairy industry bothers them. Others are vegan because of the China study, which found that regular consumption of animal products may be a factor in the diseases associated with...
[16:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:15] <exec> 08└─Vegans are against enslaving animals to create consumable human products
[16:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vegans - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:17] <exec> 08└─I bet they taste like sadness.
[16:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:01] <exec> 08└─Episodes IV-VI are the canon. There is no canon but that canon. Anything other than that is crap.
[16:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:02] <exec> 08└─This, of course, can't happen without completely disregarding the prequel trilogy.
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[17:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Great Summary! - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:41] <exec> 08└─Most of it is from the WikiLeaks press release. I figured it was important to include all the release's example links because the org is going to have an uphill battle convincing people (the media?) that the doc dump is justified.
[17:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02A new low. - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:43] <exec> 08└─Private info of low level employees should have been redacted.
[17:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:1) 02Re:A new low. - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:45] <exec> 08└─They seem to never really redact much, do they? It would help their publicity if they did, me thinks.
[17:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:A new low. - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:46] <exec> 08└─WikiLeaks is the new Jeb Bush [theverge.com].
[17:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Buzzword Bingo - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:48] <exec> 08└─I have yet to master the art of "reaching out" to people. I still merely contact them.
[17:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Buzzword Bingo - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:50] <exec> 08└─You know how you reach out to grab things off the shelf of a supermarket? Like that, except you give your money to the product you're reaching for, not a cashier.
[17:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:13] <exec> 08└─You have to draw the line somewhere.
[17:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:14] <exec> 08└─There are plenty of lines. There's the abortion debate based on drawing the line at conception, X weeks, birth, etc. There's the lab-grown meat debate which could become a big deal if a cost effective zero-suffering alternative to slaughter is produced. It's the no-suffering and environmentalism ben...
[17:17:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03danmars [3662] (Score:2) 02Re:Milk Casein Alergies and Vegan Labelling - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:25] <exec> 08└─When I read this I immediately had similar thoughts. If we see a world where foods are built from unconventional proteins, they'd better tell you exactly which proteins, or everyone with allergies which aren't on warning labels (i.e. any allergy other than milk, eggs, soy, nuts, or peanuts) is going...
[17:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Not quite vegan - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:28] <exec> 08└─Hmm ... what if they sequenced that gene, created an identical DNA sequence from scratch, and then inserted that? Then only the information comes from the animal; but if you don't allow information from animals, then you cannot eat any prepared food since into the recipe went information from the co...
[17:17:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Not quite vegan - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:30] <exec> 08└─It's all code now. As long as you can get a sample, sequence, and store, synthesis is possible. http://www.genome.gov [genome.gov] Sequence everything.
[17:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:48] <exec> 08└─Work with the government? No! Run the government!
[17:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:That guy needs to shut the F up - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:51] <exec> 08└─Without zoning laws for example your neighbor could build a gas station on his property and be a real nuisance or health hazard to you.
[17:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:08] <exec> 08└─I think that you can say that most books are always better than the film adaptations.
[17:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Going to be... - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:23] <exec> 08└─Didn't the very first Star Wars have a prominent lens flare when the Falcon arrived to save the day?
[17:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What not to use: - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:56] <exec> 08└─And don't leave your house, either, because facial recognition technology is getting better, and they're installing surveillance equipment everywhere in public places.
[17:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Depressing - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:00] <exec> 08└─Nope. Liberals and conservatives can both be found in the "don't give a fuck" camp. Portraying this as a partisan issue doesn't really help. Both major parties support the ongoing illegal spy regime, and both of them have plenty of voters who are all for it.
[17:19:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Depressing - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:04] <exec> 08└─trying to use manipulation and guilt to get me to log into facebook or something.
[17:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:1) 02Re:How are we supposed to change our habits? - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 1247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:09] <exec> 08└─Well if "texting" (SMS or chats?) is what you use most, then there are services that make encryption really seamless and easy. TextSecure+Redphone on Android or Signal on iOS, is one such. Note that they don't encrypt texts anymore. That network essentially uses an updated version of OTR. I've start...
[17:19:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:How are we supposed to change our habits? - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:11] <exec> 08└─Both textsecure and redphone require both sides be running the encryption programs. This goes back to the main problem with PGP in the 90's; namely the person you're talking to has to run it. I couldn't get my 30 something friends to do so in the 90's, I'm sure as hell not going to get my 50 someth...
[17:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:59] <exec> 08└─Mcdonalds is not MEANT to be a job for life. Well maybe if you become a manager. It is a stepping stone job.
[17:23:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Re:Free software - 06WINVote Voting Machines Used in Virginia Elections are Shockingly Insecure - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:30] <exec> 08└─Somewhat catchier than software which is free-as-in-freedom, but I don't feel it really works. Freed software suffers the same problem.
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[18:16:38] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03mtrycz [60] 02Re:A GNU and better job - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 430 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:38] <exec> 08└─I for one am actually pleased with the perseverance of certain initiatives, like Hurd or Minix. There is no harm really in having more, so people that go GNU bashing are really just bitter dicks. If it doesn't work for you now, doesn't mean that it doesn't work for anyone, or that it can't work in t...
[18:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Disappointing it is stuck on Mach - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:39] <exec> 08└─If you are wondering why Hurd continues to be based on GNU Mach, a microkernel that was already regarded as antiquated in the 1990s, this page [gnu.org] has some background. It's disappointing that the attempts to port Hurd to a more advanced microkernel failed. One wishes that Hurd could get some m...
[18:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disappointing it is stuck on Mach - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:41] <exec> 08└─Why is this a shame? Hurd is the Norma Desmond or Miss Havisham of the computer world. It holds its chin up regal and proud, but oblivious to the fact that time has past it by.
[18:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Cartoons are getting old - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:43] <exec> 08└─http://xkcd.com/1508/ [xkcd.com] stylistic fixes" to the code-base
[18:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Once Again - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:45] <exec> 08└─Polishing the turd.
[18:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Why? - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 866 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:46] <exec> 08└─...Why? I don't mean that as flamebait or anything, I'm honestly curious. If I've got the history right, Hurd basically began because there were no open source Unix systems at the time. But we've got lots of options now, and Hurd sounds like it's about a decade behind at this point. With no signs th...
[18:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Doesn't offer any compelling new features" - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:48] <exec> 08└─Just like Linux 4.0 then.
[18:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:55] <exec> 08└─A lawyer from each of the MPAA and the RIAA has been dispatched to slap you with a $100 million lawsuit for actively encouraging theft of their property.
[18:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirty Hippies - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:17] <exec> 08└─As a vegetarian*, I too think that meat** is delicious. * quasi-lacto-ovo-piscitarian * some meats, like becon, sausages, and mom's gravy. I don't miss most meats, personally.
[18:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:34] <exec> 08└─Speaking of insects, there is a huge source of low-fat protein that is virtually untapped in "Western" culture. People in Europe or North America who routinely eat escargot, crab or lobster, react with horror when presented with say fried ant or grasshopper, or sauteed cricket. How about grilled sco...
[18:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:3, Insightful) 02This has got to be way more efficient - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 1381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:46] <exec> 08└─First, let me say I LOVE beef, cheese, leather, etc. I'm a murdering animal eater, through and through. But I'd really rather not be. Beef is so inefficient it is destroying the planet. Milk is little better. Yeast are incredibly efficient by comparison. If someone could incubate me a burger with a...
[18:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:05] <exec> 08└─You left off: 3. Inherit enough money so that no matter what you do with it, it multiplies exponentially.
[18:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That guy needs to shut the F up - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:12] <exec> 08└─From Business Week While it is theoretically possible for a petrochemical refinery to locate next to a housing development, it is unlikely that profit-maximizing real-estate developers will allow this to happen. Developers employ widespread private covenants and deed restrictions, which serve a comp...
[18:19:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:My tinfoil hat is too tight - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:13] <exec> 08└─twitter and facebook is not socializing.
[18:20:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Youtube - 06Microsoft Relishes its Role as Accuser in Antitrust Suit Against Google - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:02] <exec> 08└─Oh, you mean it does the Exact Same Thing that my LG G2 does with embedded Youtube videos? Sounds more like crappy support from whoever produced the phone. Palemoon doesn't work either, but I think the Dolphin browser got it working. I uninstalled Dolphin though 'cause I didn't know enough about the...
[18:20:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:23] <exec> 08└─there's also the fact that the minimum wage is supposed to be a living wage
[18:20:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Gravity Payments? - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:30] <exec> 08└─That's heavy. But their salary payments certainly are attractive.
[18:21:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Old news. - 06Protester Lands Single-Passenger Gyrocopter on US Capitol Lawn - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:21:19] <exec> 08└─I pretty much stopped watching "regular" news, because they seem to peddle misery with the Occasional bit of great / funny / good news. I see plenty of misery in life just by looking around. No need to be bombarded with everyone's problems every day.
[18:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Urlax [3027] (Score:1) 02Re:More after the break - 06Downsides to Filing your IRS Tax Forms Electronically - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:00] <exec> 08└─coming from my rss reader, the summary was indeed in 2 parts. the first part was in the feed, both parts in the summary. nice system if you ask me.
[18:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Kick the addiction - 06International Space Station Finally Gets Real Coffee - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah, now I remember where I read about you [theonion.com].
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[19:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02A comment on the article clarifies - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:39] <exec> 08└─It wasn't the unlocking that they rebroadcast, as, I'm sure you're all aware, requires pressing a button. It's that priuses have a touch-button initiation that negotiates with a fob to verify its presence when starting the car. They enacted a sort of MITM attack on that negotiation.
[19:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Club is a Dud - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:40] <exec> 08└─> Maybe those clubs aren't so silly after all. The club is no deterrant. The club itself is mostly impervious, but most of the time the steering wheel it is attached to is easy to saw through.
[19:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A GNU and better job - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:51] <exec> 08└─When Slashdot ran this news article, the comments were lame. Really lame. A bunch of thoughtless GNU bashing
[19:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Re:A GNU and better job - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:53] <exec> 08└─I barely know what GNU is about, and I hardly got irritated.. I was just asking for our community to show more class than I saw on Slashdot.
[19:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A GNU and better job - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:55] <exec> 08└─I was just asking for our community to show more class than I saw on Slashdot.
[19:16:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Why? - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:00] <exec> 08└─No systemd? :)
[19:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:01] <exec> 08└─I considered that, but there are still plenty of systemd-free Linux distros that seem to be far ahead of Hurd. For example, a two or three year old release of any distro that's been around that long :)
[19:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why? - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:03] <exec> 08└─Last time I read the Hurd webpage, it spoke mainly of how the developers are using it for research. There's nothing wrong with that; experimenting with a technically unneeded kernal which may or may not end up creating a useful product someday. At the very least it allows people to hone their skills...
[19:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Microkernels: Torvalds and Tanenbaum both right - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:05] <exec> 08└─I'm not too sure where it leaves GNU Hurd but combining a modern service manager with a monolithic kernel offers the best* of both approaches. IPC and context switching overhead only where it makes sense - why bother with microkernels at all? * "best" being a relative **cough** systemd **cough** ter...
[19:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:13] <exec> 08└─After a review of the Wikileaks Sony file, detailing the level of collaboration with RAND Corp and the US Executive Branch plus associated agencies, I believe that in addition to the lawsuits, the original poster is now also due for an extraordinary rendition, as a giver of material support for terr...
[19:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:15] <exec> 08└─Shareware everything... ;-)
[19:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:53] <exec> 08└─I've never found people to be very logically consistent. People make choices based on many things and rationalize afterwards. Why don't you eat dog meat? It probably has little to do with logical consistancy...
[19:18:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Since you asked... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:18] <exec> 08└─Go along to get along...
[19:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:29] <exec> 08└─My sense is that the VC wants to have his cake and eat it, too. A common flaw... The general consensus on this site appears to be that "on a computer" shouldn't make something patentable. Yet, "on a computer" should make something exempt from existing law? That seems like a pretty good exa...
[19:18:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:57] <exec> 08└─Oh come on, the "Twilight" moves were just as good as the books. Honest question: Do they actually sparkle in the books?
[19:19:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02cautiously not pessimistic - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:19:16] <exec> 08└─After all, Abrams first two Star Wars movies were pretty good, even if they did call them 'Trek' by mistake....
[19:20:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:50] <exec> 08└─supply-side economics doesn't work. [americanprogress.org] the only way to spur the economy is to increase demand, which requires people having disposable income. reducing people's spending power, through inflation (wage stagnation) or pay cuts (reducing or abolishing minimum wage), reduces demand,...
[19:21:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:11] <exec> 08└─Really, does simultaneity really matter when watching a game,
[19:21:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:14] <exec> 08└─Then maybe, perhaps, they should have taken the subsidies they've been receiving to upgrade said capacity and actually use it to upgrade said capacity, instead of using it as profit. They were paid, they did not deliver, if this were a restaurant we'd get our money back.
[19:22:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 47 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:50] <exec> 08└─Swatting should be treated as attempted murder.
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[20:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:A comment on the article clarifies - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:40] <exec> 08└─TFA says: the perps used an electronic device to simply unlock his Toyota Prius, rather than doing things the old-fashioned way with a slim jim, coat hanger, or brick.
[20:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:A comment on the article clarifies - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:43] <exec> 08└─Here is how the "Smart Key" works: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] So simple to gain entry by amplifying the fob signal.
[20:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:The Club is a Dud - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:45] <exec> 08└─"The club itself is mostly impervious"... Unless one has an inexpensive battery powered high speed grinder/cutter with a composition metal cutting blade. Then it only takes a few seconds cut off the club.
[20:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02sounds like magic - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:47] <exec> 08└─If the range of the fob is a few feet, wouldn't the repeater have to be within a few feet of the fob?
[20:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:sounds like magic - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:49] <exec> 08└─Not if the repeater has a more powerful transmitter to talk to the fob and a more a sensitive receiver to pick up the fob's response.
[20:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02give those kids - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:51] <exec> 08└─a new car and free publicity
[20:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Headline states speculation as fact - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:52] <exec> 08└─New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary
[20:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Headline states speculation as fact - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:54] <exec> 08└─That's classic journalism for you. Headline: "World is burning! Everyone to die!" Story: Well, it's actually not burning, per se. It's really quite nice outside. But here's an artist's rendition of what the world would look like if it actually was burning though, blown up larger than this silly litt...
[20:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Headline states speculation as fact - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:56] <exec> 08└─Hey look! Even a broken clock is still right twice a day.
[20:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:A GNU and better job - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:01] <exec> 08└─There is no harm really in having more,
[20:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:A GNU and better job - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:03] <exec> 08└─And what is wrong with doing an interesting hobby? I have some pointless hobby projects too that are 15-20 years behind the times and never get finished (and never will at this rate) but I find them educational and good mental exercise. You should see my home-made vector font rendering engine that r...
[20:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:A GNU and better job - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:06] <exec> 08└─They bash GNU because they have no fantasy. A better approach would be like GNU Hurd: - X86 only - decades in development, not even mature beta - limited hardware support - still better than having to deal with systemd. Voila'
[20:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Disappointing it is stuck on Mach - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:09] <exec> 08└─Why is it disappointing? (Look, I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, I really don't know about Hurd and I don't know a single person that ever even bothered to install it. What is it good for?)
[20:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:16] <exec> 08└─Devuan is getting closer to a release.. I know they have some testing vm's to download and I think they have a testing .iso now and sound like it's getting close.. hopefully the succeed..
[20:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03present_arms [4392] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:17] <exec> 08└─No systemd here either :)
[20:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Having a different kernel available - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:19] <exec> 08└─You don't seem to be aware that, before they adopted (Linux-only) systemd, Debian had a spin that used a non-Linux kernel. kFreeBSD [google.com] Did that offer great utility relative to Torvalds' kernel? You'll have to ask the folks that run/ran it. -- gewg_
[20:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03dime [1163] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:"Doesn't offer any compelling new features" - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:21] <exec> 08└─Live kernel patching infrastructure put into mainline is not a compelling new feature?
[20:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Why as why? - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:23] <exec> 08└─I wonder how many OS kernels there are out there that somebody writes just because they want to or for the experience or something like that. Little lonely pieces of code sitting on their authors' hard drives never to be known to the outside world. So with Hurd they still make it available if for so...
[20:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 2857 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:33] <exec> 08└─A few years ago I wrote some software that was sold on-line. My business partner really wanted me to go heavy-handed on the copy restriction, he was worried that one little leak would sink the project. I told him that as somebody who purchases software I cannot *stand* anything more complicated than...
[20:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 3017 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:35] <exec> 08└─Oh damn it. Sorry about the bad formatting. That'll learn me to not hit the preview button. Here's the previous text but with line breaks. Again, sorry. ... A few years ago I wrote some software that was sold on-line. My business partner really wanted me to go heavy-handed on the copy restriction...
[20:17:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Chris Dodd Advised Execs to Give to GOP - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 2205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:43] <exec> 08└─https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/17/chris-dodd-former-dem-presidential-aspirant-advises-clients-give-gop-fundraising-impact/ [firstlook.org] Chris Dodd’s first career was as the liberal U.S. Senator from Connecticut, a self-professed champion for working families and a Democratic presid...
[20:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Chris Dodd Advised Execs to Give to GOP - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 2387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:45] <exec> 08└─Sony Emails Show Industry Execs Pushing for Trade Deal [firstlook.org] Broadcast media has not devoted much air time to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal, an agreement that will greatly impact 40 percent of the global economy. But hacked emails from Sony reveal that media industry exec...
[20:18:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03kbahey [1147] (Score:2) 02Borat ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:33] <exec> 08└─The human cheese reminded me of this Borat sketch [youtube.com].
[20:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Borat ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:36] <exec> 08└─Real Virgin Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You TFTFY
[20:18:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:58] <exec> 08└─Since we are discussing the obvious, I'd like to point out that a VC would never dare asking anybody to get along with X if he wasn't sure that X is under control. Venture Capitalism is about being able to evaluate risk. In other words, if the government were the expression of a democratic system, V...
[20:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Perfume - 06If You're Sweaty, Think Happy! - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:57] <exec> 08└─When my wife is ovulating, "mini-me" seems to know about it well in advance of my conscious mind putting two and two together.
[20:23:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:Turnabout is Fair Play - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 1637 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:23:34] <exec> 08└─So...rather than saying, "Hey, maybe we shouldn't send a SWAT team absolutely every time and go in with guns blazing," or, "Hey, maybe taking a Fallujah approach to policing is a bad idea and will lead to bad, bad things," it's, "Seriously messed up dude?" What is seriously messed up is that people...
[20:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Such a happy ending... - 06 New Jersey Legislator Who Sponsored Anti-Swatting Bill Gets Swatted - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:23:57] <exec> 08└─Same reason white-collar criminals who embezzle millions get a friendly call and asked to report to the station rather than assaulted at work and perp-walked out in handcuffs, like everyone else - because you're not a millionaire.
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[21:16:51] <exec> 08└─Pretty much the same as my Chrysler. (And not at all clear as to the inner workings). But it STILL can't be as simple as amplifying the fob signal, otherwise my fob would open every Chrysler. What I suspect: 1) Fob batteries would not last long enough if they were constantly transmitting. Constant r...
[21:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A comment on the article clarifies - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:53] <exec> 08└─> The article didn't say anything about starting the car. So, you are saying ikanreed picked an appropriate login? > Regardless whether the fob is using a constant broadcast or a response broadcast, the digital encoded key is unlikely to be globally unique. > Probably there is under 500 combinations...
[21:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:The Club is a Dud - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:56] <exec> 08└─Wrong track guys. Nobody is stealing the car. They are simply stealing everything left in the car.
[21:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:The Club is a Dud - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:58] <exec> 08└─You wouldn't download a car.
[21:16:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Club is a Dud - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:00] <exec> 08└─> "The club itself is mostly impervious" > Unless one has an inexpensive battery powered high speed grinder/cutter Pedant for the fail! (1) 'mostly' (2) If you have one of those you can cut through the steering wheel even faster, easier and quieter.
[21:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:The Club is a Dud - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:01] <exec> 08└─The club is no deterrant. Anything that makes some other guy's car easier to steal than your own is a deterrant.
[21:17:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02Re:A GNU and better job - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 226 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:19] <exec> 08└─They bash GNU because they have no fantasy. A better approach would be like GNU Hurd: - X86 only - decades in development, not even mature beta - limited hardware support - still better than having to deal with systemd. Voila'
[21:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02For example - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:35] <exec> 08└─Having a machine (or image) bootup in seconds (maybe even under a second, with modern hardware) is great for real-time scaling. Your site is getting slashdotted? Add more workers in SECONDS. In REAL real-time. Yes, we have the clouds now, and all that stuff, but it's an all round cool concept, and p...
[21:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Chris Dodd Advised Execs to Give to GOP - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 2234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:01] <exec> 08└─MPAA Wants Private Theaters in U.S. Embassies to Lobby Officials [torrentfreak.com] Emails from the Sony hack reveal that the MPAA asked its member studios to pay $165,000 each to upgrade the screening rooms of several U.S. embassies. American ambassadors could then utilize these private theaters a...
[21:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02TPP (SHAFTA) will kill national sovereignty - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:02] <exec> 08└─You say that your country has standards on baby formula? [google.com] That's nice. Under SHAFTA, if a corporation contests your country's right to set a standard, they can appeal to a tribunal for the right to ignore that law. The tribunal will be made up of corporate types. Guess who is going to wi...
[21:18:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02Re:Vegans vs. GMO - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:26] <exec> 08└─The same way you get it out of wine, with a filter.
[21:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:Serious Question ... - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:36] <exec> 08└─I'm an herbivoritarian, that's why.
[21:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Milk Casein Alergies and Vegan Labelling - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:49] <exec> 08└─There is now, on the selves of most food stores in the US, a cheese made from soy milk. This is considered "vegan" and is also used by people allergic to milk.
[21:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Calling Captain Obvious.... - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:19:14] <exec> 08└─Tesla avoids dealerships, but doesn't avoid warranty issues, safety regulations, or other state laws. If you live in a dealership required state you can still buy a Tesla. But you have to take delivery outside your state. You can visit a showroom in some other state. (Actually I believe Tesla showro...
[21:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03TestablePredictions [3249] (Score:1) 02Re:Wrong audience - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:19:25] <exec> 08└─You mean dark web right? There have been various baby-steps attempts so far (dining-cryptographers, onion-routing, cryptocurrency, etc...). If techies ever become sufficiently motivated (pissed-off), they might finally go full-bore on developing air-tight implementations and integrating it all toget...
[21:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03TestablePredictions [3249] (Score:1) 02Re:How bout government getting along with techies? - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:19:28] <exec> 08└─All by himself with no provocation whatsoever? Or was driven to suicide by the unreasonable overreaction of contemptibles acting on the authority of state? Who then acted surprised and wept crocodile tears about what a shame it all was while changing nothing about systemic malincentives in the prose...
[21:20:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03e_armadillo [3695] (Score:2) 02Learned one thing - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:06] <exec> 08└─Wookies age much better than humans . . .
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[22:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Other conclusions from social media - 06YouTube Videos Being Used to Track Water Table Via Graffiti in Saudi Arabian Caves - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:42] <exec> 08└─Russians can't drive. source: YouTube dash cam videos. Every scateboard stunt fails. Source: Fail Army on YouTube. Every woman has duck lips. Source: Every selfie ever posted by a female. When only exceptional events are posted, your data from social media is likely to be misleading.
[22:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:A comment on the article clarifies - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:55] <exec> 08└─It wasn't the unlocking that they rebroadcast, as, I'm sure you're all aware, requires pressing a button.
[22:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:55] <exec> 08└─Nowadays if I have to use something like that, I'll normally encapsulate it in a VM. It's always the same machine, even if I clone/move it. I suppose that's probably possible to detect, but I haven't seen anyone bother so far.
[22:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:57] <exec> 08└─As a software developer I've always considered piracy free marketing penetration by people who mostly would not pay for it in the first place.
[22:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:How bout government getting along with techies? - 06Top VC Firm Says Techies Need to Get Along With Government - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:37] <exec> 08└─All by himself with no provocation whatsoever? Or was driven to suicide by the unreasonable overreaction of contemptibles acting on the authority of state?
[22:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah... no. - 06New Trailer Emerges of Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:53] <exec> 08└─I don't want to flamebait, but the movie adaption of 2001 is my absolute favorite movie. The book is great, and so is the film. Just different. Just in case somebody hasn't heard of this before: watch the last sequence (Juptiter and Beyond The Infinite) to Pink Floyd's "Echoes", synchronize the firs...
[22:22:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03TestablePredictions [3249] (Score:1) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:18] <exec> 08└─The upload bandwidth problem was solved ~15 years ago with P2P data transfer technology. The copyright neurotics won't allow it though, because somebody might *gasp* try to save the video stream longer term. Broadcast (like OTA television) would be fine too. But nobody make DVR'ing the stream harder...
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[23:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02USS Ronald Reagan - 06Scientists Find Radioactive Aircraft Carrier Off California Coast - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:49] <exec> 08└─When I saw this headline in the queue, I thought it was referring to a part of the current Pacific Fleet. USS Ronald Reagan [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [dissidentvoice.org] -- gewg_
[23:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My anti-theft device... - 06New York Times Columnist Falls Prey to Signal Repeater Car Burglary - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:22] <exec> 08└─I made plug wires out of vacuum hose, they looked just like plug wires. Didn't work, you could still start the car, the vacuum hose was somehow letting spark get from the distributor cap to the spark plugs.
[23:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:Disappointing it is stuck on Mach - 06GNU Hurd 0.6 Released, Still x86, Still 32-bit - 1515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:41] <exec> 08└─Mach is a perfectly fine microkernel. The XNU kernel in every copy of OS X in the world incorporates Mach, and OS X works just fine. The criticism of Mach performance dates back to a time when CPUs were vastly slower than X86s are now. I have a very strong idea that an OS based on straight Mach micr...
[23:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:11] <exec> 08└─Much of the software I run won't work properly in a VM due to the use of 3d acceleration etc.
[23:18:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:13] <exec> 08└─My pirated copy of vmware workstation supports 3d.
[23:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:15] <exec> 08└─When I last tried VMWare (over two years ago) its 3D support was there but insufficient. I'd be very happy to hear if that has changed.
[23:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anti Piracy - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:17] <exec> 08└─It is possible to detect. There is malware out there that will not launch if it detects it is in a VM.
[23:18:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:A new low. - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:22] <exec> 08└─> Private info of low level employees should have been redacted. I expect the reason it wasn't redacted is because wikileaks is not releasing the data dump, they are just making it easy to search. The dump was previously released last year, perhaps you remember the enormous [soylentnews.org] amount...
[23:18:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Chris Dodd Advised Execs to Give to GOP - 06WikiLeaks Publishes "The Sony Archives" - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:28] <exec> 08└─Harry Friedman Tried To Find Sponsor for Trebek's Mustache [buzzerblog.com]
[23:18:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Evolution is there the screw you - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:48] <exec> 08└─The keyword here is "that can be found".
[23:18:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Evolution is there the screw you - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 716 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:50] <exec> 08└─The problem is that our civilization can now do mistakes that screws up the whole planet for many generations or ends it all, dead stop. Learning faster is good. What's needed is to learn fast enough to not get caught up in any fatal mistake and some mistakes can only be made once. Evolution cannot...
[23:18:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Base pair cost - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:53] <exec> 08└─So how many base pair changes is needed to make any useful changes? And how many retries does it take to learn which base pairs to modify and how?
[23:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Vegans vs. GMO - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:59] <exec> 08└─And we are here dealing with a perfect process? or "oops"..
[23:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Vegans vs GMO - 06Real Vegan Cheese: Coming From a Yeast to You - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:01] <exec> 08└─Being rational, you know every effect of GMO ? you'll see the body is made up of 10s of millions of chemical reactions to work. And the ecosystem is made up of a lot more. When you know every effect and side effect, then there's perhaps enough background information to make a rational decision.
[23:21:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JNCF [4317] 02Re:Depressing - 06Pew Report on Privacy Habits After the Snowden Leaks - 258 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:21:13] <exec> 08└─Nope. Liberals and conservatives can both be found in the "don't give a fuck" camp. Portraying this as a partisan issue doesn't really help. Both major parties support the ongoing illegal spy regime, and both of them have plenty of voters who are all for it.
[23:22:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Yes, $70k "salary" - 06Gravity Payments: CEO Takes Cut and Makes $70k/year New Minimum Salary - 100 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:11] <exec> 08└─Oddly enough minimum-wage earners are also paid in units of fucking-dollars. Just not the good kind.
[23:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:39] <exec> 08└─No amount of upgrade can allow everyone who wants to watch the superbowl do so at the same time when each viewer needs a separate feed. The best system for that is ... ... wait for it... TV.
[23:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is great for consumers. - 06Cable-Cutters Continue Their Trend - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:42] <exec> 08└─Just remember there is a great deal of unhappiness while you scream at your screen watching some whirling buffering symbol every 50 seconds because the national championships you wanted to watch suddenly appealed to a much larger audience, namely EVERYONE across the country. You call and bitch, but...
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