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[13:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Says the man in the black suit - 06Human Rights Watch Sues DEA over Bulk Data Collection - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:47] <exec> 08└─Why would we believe a word this Patrick Rodenbush says? Government officials have perjured themselves before congress and the courts with no ramifications. Cry wolf one time, for real for me Patrick. I will enjoy watching you be eaten.
[13:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Says the man in the black suit - 06Human Rights Watch Sues DEA over Bulk Data Collection - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:34:48] <exec> 08└─It should be noted that Human Rights Watch isn't just suing over the illegality of the program, it also wants to confirm that records have been deleted: Although the DEA has indicated the program was “suspended” in 2013, this suit seeks to ensure the program is permanently terminated, that it ca...
[13:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02There's no Secret about it - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:57] <exec> 08└─Conservatives have money. Liberals want money. See how simple?
[13:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Unprofessional? - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:58] <exec> 08└─Isn't discussing politics at work pretty unprofessional?
[13:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Unprofessional? - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:00] <exec> 08└─So, Ms. Fluke and the rest of you feminazis, here's the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it, and I'll tell you what it is. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.
[13:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Unprofessional? - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 1762 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:02] <exec> 08└─Because politics is fundamentally different from every other topic matter how? I think the reason talking about politics (and religion) has historically been taboo is because people internally know that their opinions are not grounded on as firm a base as they would like, but don't want that found o...
[13:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Unprofessional? - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:03] <exec> 08└─either there are problems with your views or there are problems with the workplace. It was not the expressing /per se/ that is the problem.
[13:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Unprofessional? - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 670 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:05] <exec> 08└─It is well possible to work productively with colleagues having fundamentally different music tastes than me. What matters, as you say, is work performance. If we start discussing our music tastes, even if we are mature about it, it /is/ a distraction, especially if we take music seriously. I do. I'...
[13:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Unprofessional? - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:07] <exec> 08└─I guess this could be generalized to all topics outside work scope and beyond small-talk. I would usually consider it OK to probe a bit in any topic, and if we are in agreement we can meet for a coffee and a social circlejerk, or even some exchange of information and new aspects. Maybe, if the diffe...
[13:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:Unprofessional? - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:08] <exec> 08└─I was also surprised at the idea that discussing politics could somehow be unprofessional. If you like your workplace and the people you work with, you will become friends with some of your co-workers, even if the friendship remains within the work context. Over coffee, at lunch, on business trips y...
[13:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:1) 02Re:Unprofessional? - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 842 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:10] <exec> 08└─I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing politics or religion at all, and I enjoy discussing them occasionally. However, in a place of business where you are being paid to work, I've never thought that unnecessary conversation was at all appropriate, especially potentially inflammatory c...
[13:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Unprofessional? - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:11] <exec> 08└─I think it depends on the country you work in, and the branch of work that you're in. Banks and insurance companies are *MUCH* stricter than, say, universities or public service organizations, in my experience. And even in a country with oceanic climate, there's only so much you can say about the we...
[13:35:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02PC liberals dislike diversity - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 1568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:13] <exec> 08└─There is a huge element of truth to this article. I didn't experience this in California, but it's no different in places like Austin or Boston. It can be an interesting experiment: start a conversation with someone - of whatever viewpoint - and let them assume that you share their views. Gradually...
[13:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Religious conservatives love Diversity! - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:15] <exec> 08└─How about all those lesbian Catholic priests, eh?
[13:35:15] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03mtrycz [60] 02Re:PC liberals dislike diversity - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 51 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:16] <exec> 08└─Good thing the liberals aren't really into tyranny.
[13:35:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:PC liberals dislike diversity - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:18] <exec> 08└─Social Justice Warriors prove you wrong.
[13:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PC liberals dislike diversity - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:20] <exec> 08└─Bullshit, you don't get much more authoritarian than SJWs. Being a liberal isn't about having progressive ideas, it's about being liberal [wikipedia.org]. People who tell you what to think fall well outside that category.
[13:35:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:1) 02Re:PC liberals dislike diversity - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:21] <exec> 08└─Many people are opposed to the word tyranny, but wholeheartedly endorse the action. This is the reason that believing in and standing up for ideals like freedom and liberty is not normal. Human nature is to desire kingship or a king who you agree with. Democracy is unnatural, which is why it's neces...
[13:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:PC liberals dislike diversity - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:23] <exec> 08└─- Go to your left-wing progressive liberal, tell them your conservative views. They will see you as utterly immoral, because their views are the one true way. Diversity of opinion is not possible, because you are not only wrong, but evil. - Go to your right-wing conservative, tell them your liberal...
[13:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Having convictions? - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 1177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:25] <exec> 08└─"Maybe people (liberal as well as conservative) only react strongly when they have convictions rather than mere opinions" You may be right. You go on to talk about religious intolerance (abortion clinics, etc.), and I did note that religion is the one area where I have encountered intolerance on the...
[13:35:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02Re:PC liberals dislike diversity - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 931 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:26] <exec> 08└─Actually, as a card carrying liberal, I have a right wing friend who I play poker with. I think his views are misguided and fueled by misinformation, but I do not think of him as evil. Random, card carrying conservative on the internet, same thing. This does not mean I will not occasionally call you...
[13:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:PC liberals dislike diversity - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 1040 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:28] <exec> 08└─Your entire post is an exercise in confirmation bias. Look at you, one of the flaming conservatives on this site, never in your life have you ever "gone to your right-wing conservative and told them your liberal views." You haven't shown anything other than your empathy for your tribe. > tyranny You...
[13:35:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:PC liberals dislike diversity - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 1282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:30] <exec> 08└─"...never in your life have you ever 'gone to your right-wing conservative and told them your liberal views.'" Actually, I know a lot of people more conservative than I am. In particular, a lot of very right-wing religious conservatives, whose positions I find pretty disturbing. As an example, I was...
[13:35:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Firebomb the Valley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:31] <exec> 08└─Fire and Brimstone to Cleanse the One True God's Earth of the Heathen Scum who use those damn Devil Computers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Firebomb the Valley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:33] <exec> 08└─while i disagree with the firebombing, primarily on the grounds that all kinds of insects and bacteria would die as well, it DOES seem like an elegant solution to the problem of garbage manufacturing industry, known as IT
[13:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Crypto-Republicans - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:35] <exec> 08└─Where have we heard of this before? The Boys From Brazil? The Lizard people from subterranean regions? Nazis on the Moon? History is made at night! Character is what you are in the dark! We must work, while the clock, she is a ticking!!! Where are we going to go? (response: "Planet Ten!") When a...
[13:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02News at 11 - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:36] <exec> 08└─People with abhorrent views learn to keep schtum.
[13:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:News at 11 - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:38] <exec> 08└─You're right, all the people in the GDR who kept their views hidden did so because they knew they were abhorrent, not because they were afraid of Stasi repercussions.
[13:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:News at 11 - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:39] <exec> 08└─People with abhorrent views learn to keep schtum.
[13:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:News at 11 - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 1568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:41] <exec> 08└─They're not the majority This is very true. I was in a restaurant picking up some food. I personally think the food is mediocre and very over priced. My wife loves it so therefor we eat there fairly often. It is also they sort of place people like to be 'seen' at. Because it 'shows their diversity'....
[13:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:News at 11 - 06The Secret Republicans of Silicon Valley - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:43] <exec> 08└─"People with abhorrent views learn to keep schtum." And we have a winner! A volunteer who came to demonstrate the problem.
[13:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03hamsterdan [2829] (Score:4, Funny) 02Not a good idea - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:44] <exec> 08└─"NASA's plans for a mission to Europa, another moon of Jupiter with an icy ocean. "I don't know what we are going to find there," he said." Didn't they get the warning to not attempt landings there?
[13:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not a good idea - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:46] <exec> 08└─No, they didn't. If only because they didn't send a manned space ship to Jupiter.
[13:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Random - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:48] <exec> 08└─Given the size of the universe and a random distribution, intelligent life will be so far spread apart that we will never make content with each other. The speed of light is absolute. You'd break reality itself on such a fundamental level to go faster than light that it's just unthinkable. So give u...
[13:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02Re:Random - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:49] <exec> 08└─The Milky Way is only 100,000 light years across. If Ray Kurzweil turns out to be right you might get to see it yourself!
[13:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Random - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:51] <exec> 08└─If Ray Kurzweil turns out to be right
[13:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Random - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:53] <exec> 08└─> If Captain Woo-woo turns out to be right IFYPFY
[13:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Random - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:54] <exec> 08└─Given the size of the universe and a random distribution,
[13:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rickter [842] (Score:1) 02Re:Random - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 1307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:56] <exec> 08└─My bet is on there being very little other intelligent life in the Galaxy. Consider the needs of life on this planet. I understand we only know of one particular combination of conditions that give rise to life, and we don't know what other conditions might do so. But giving what we do know, it seem...
[13:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02The Law of Futurology - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:57] <exec> 08└─The Law of Futurology [smbc-comics.com] y - t = 0 y = approximate number of years left in the life of a futurist t = years futurist thinks it will be until immortality is discovered Man: "Things are gonna change in 60 - 70 years." Man (older): "Things are gonna change in 30 - 40 years." Man (even ol...
[13:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:The Law of Futurology - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:59] <exec> 08└─That formula is incomplete, because there's another important rule: t > r t = years futurist thinks it will be before whatever it is they're predicting happens. r = the length of time that the audience will remember that the prediction was made and go back and check to see if it was right.
[13:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Really? - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:01] <exec> 08└─Nobody expects large-headed, lanky humanoids with oval-shaped black eyes hiding behind a crater on mars. Until they get poked with soft cushions [wikipedia.org]
[13:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02CERN Wormhole - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:02] <exec> 08└─ah, yes, the aliens are X years away. the hindu god statue paused in a dance is a hint of what's to come. reject all blue colored aliens.
[13:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Yah, Right. - 06NASA: Discovery of Alien Life Could Be 10-20 Years Away - 1478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:04] <exec> 08└─Maybe NASA will manage to send something to an icy moon within 20 years. They aren't going to get anything that can drill down to the moon's ocean in that time period and obviously that's where the life would be. Maybe they will see some sort of evidence of the life below at the surface but I am ske...
[13:36:05] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Too late - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 240 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:06] <exec> 08└─ShenWei SW-3 [wikipedia.org] - 190 GFlops at 1.1 GHZ (65 nm) Xeon E3 1245v3 (Haswell) [pugetsystems.com] - 170 GFlops at 3.6 GHz (22 nm) Conclusion: China only needs a 22 nm chip foundry - (got its own technology in late 2012 [zdnet.com])
[13:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Too late - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:07] <exec> 08└─Where did the 190 figure come from? The link you provided says "140.8 GFLOPS @ 1.1 GHz"
[13:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Too late - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:09] <exec> 08└─My bad, a typo. Conclusion still stands.
[13:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Other news - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:10] <exec> 08└─Intel offers olive branch of investment for growth [www.ecns.cn] (Intel not only lost sales, but also forced to invest to keep the market opened for them) Intel Corp said on Wednesday that it will invest 120 million yuan ($19.3 million) to promote grass roots technology innovation in China amid deep...
[13:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Riiight - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:12] <exec> 08└─That's a pretty pathetic and useless gesture. The only real effect is going to be to encourage China to move to processors that they make in-country. Meanwhile, if they need Intel stuff, they will just buy it through an intermediary. Anyone in the know about US-China relations? Is the US really this...
[13:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Riiight - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:14] <exec> 08└─That's a pretty pathetic and useless gesture.
[13:36:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Riiight - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:15] <exec> 08└─International politics is just gangbanging on a grand scale. It doesn't make sense because it shouldn't to any rational minded modern human.
[13:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:Riiight - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:17] <exec> 08└─Supercomputers are nowadays essential for weather forecasting. And superior weather forecasting was essential in timing the successful D-day invasion years before I was even born. I'm not sure there's a valid syllogism here, but...
[13:36:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Just the USA? - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:19] <exec> 08└─So it will be boom time for Intel's Israeli offices?
[13:36:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Just the USA? - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:20] <exec> 08└─Welcome to the terrorist watchlist. :^)
[13:36:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just the USA? - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:22] <exec> 08└─Surely posting as an AC makes me anonymous right? right?
[13:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"nuclear explosives" - 06Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:24] <exec> 08└─>related to nuclear explosives China has been investing heavily in Thorium. Chances are, they're using the super computers to further their research. Lockheed's fusion will flop, China will dominate energy production with LFTR, and I'll die right.
[13:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02snow day - 06Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Reveals Belts of Water Ice Glaciers On Mars - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:25] <exec> 08└─http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/08/newlydiscovered_martian_glaciers_could_cover_entire_surface_in_water/ [theregister.co.uk] "We have calculated that the ice in the glaciers is equivalent to over 150 billion cubic metres of ice – that much ice could cover the entire surface of Mars with 1.1...
[13:36:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Ski Mars!!! - 06Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Reveals Belts of Water Ice Glaciers On Mars - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:27] <exec> 08└─Bring out the Martian Snow Bunnies!! Someone from this crowd would likely fantasize about trying to score. :-)
[13:36:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Ski Mars!!! - 06Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Reveals Belts of Water Ice Glaciers On Mars - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:29] <exec> 08└─The ice in my cocktails is 100% Martian, with nutritious minerals from the surface.
[13:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:snow day - 06Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Reveals Belts of Water Ice Glaciers On Mars - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:30] <exec> 08└─In the bottom of the first linked article, they make that same point. But they also mention that ice simply sublimates into water vapor, and that the layer of dust is protecting the ice. So how does that come about? Ice under dust, suggests that the dust came second, and some how didn't sublimate wh...
[13:36:31] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:snow day - 06Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Reveals Belts of Water Ice Glaciers On Mars - 904 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:32] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_on_Mars#Ice_ages [wikipedia.org] Mars has experienced large scale changes in the amount and distribution of ice on its surface in its relatively recent geological past, and as on Earth, these are known as ice ages. Ice ages on Mars are very different from the one...
[13:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03m2o2r2g2 [3673] (Score:1) 02climate change - 06Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Reveals Belts of Water Ice Glaciers On Mars - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:34] <exec> 08└─How can climate change be real if the ice caps on Mars aren't melting? :P
[13:36:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02The Yellow Men - 06Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Reveals Belts of Water Ice Glaciers On Mars - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:35] <exec> 08└─Watch out for em in the north pole..
[13:36:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02How to get at it? - 06Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Reveals Belts of Water Ice Glaciers On Mars - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:37] <exec> 08└─So what would a Mars colony need in order to extract this ice into drinkable water? or as rocket fuel? (I expect Mars one to build a snowman on arrival now that there's ice and low temperature. Enough to make it last ;) )
[13:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03axsdenied [384] (Score:1) 02Re:How to get at it? - 06Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Reveals Belts of Water Ice Glaciers On Mars - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:38] <exec> 08└─No, no and no. Haven't you seen Dr. Who episode Waters of Mars?
[13:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Mars! - 06Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Reveals Belts of Water Ice Glaciers On Mars - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:40] <exec> 08└─First it was Canals, now it is Glaciers. Some things never change, but some things do. (where have I heard this before?)
[13:36:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02mmm water - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:42] <exec> 08└─Gulp gulp gulp. 3.78 extra kilos per gallon. Dont think so? There is money on the line.
[13:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:mmm water - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:43] <exec> 08└─I believe it. Basically the reverse of what wrestlers do, right?
[13:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:mmm water - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:45] <exec> 08└─Yes and no. Wrestlers will purge their body of unnecessary mass just before the weigh-in, but then return to normal immediately afterwards.
[13:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:mmm water - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:46] <exec> 08└─Disturbing. But probably accurate. Poor ladies. :(
[13:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:mmm water - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:48] <exec> 08└─Hecklers in the audience doing the potty dance and holding up pictures of water falls. They might have to install floor drains.
[13:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:mmm water - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:50] <exec> 08└─Gulp gulp gulp. 3.78 extra kilos per gallon. Dont think so? There is money on the line.
[13:36:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Quick! - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:51] <exec> 08└─Long food related stocks and short eating disorder pharma stocks! On a more serious note, humanity seems to be progressively sliding to a Nanny state utopia... a sort of civilized terrorist state anyone?
[13:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:1) 02Re:Quick! - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:53] <exec> 08└─If we were a true nanny state the state would do something about the obesity epidemic killing millions of people. Instead we are just a fascist state who like enacting laws to control the weak and politically unpowerful
[13:36:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quick! - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:54] <exec> 08└─We=France?
[13:36:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:2) 02Re:Quick! - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:56] <exec> 08└─Oui.
[13:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Quick! - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:58] <exec> 08└─It was a nanny state attitude that ignorantly pushed people into that state of mass obesity in the first place: Dr. Peter Attia: /The limits of scientific evidence and the ethics of dietary guidelines - 60 years of ambiguity/ (63:26) https://vimeo.com Do not interpret that for one second as...
[13:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Re:Quick! - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:59] <exec> 08└─Do not interpret that for one second as me saying that the so-called "scientists" weren't equally culpable. They were the ones creating the lies that the US government was using as support. It would be nice to be able to trace the flow of money - why did the "scientists" make so many inforgivable mi...
[13:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Quick! - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:01] <exec> 08└─> Because of the lobbying efforts of the wheat, soy, corn and sugar industries. Easy to believe, but it would be nice to see the evidence. I suspect there's not enough transparency to be sure.
[13:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02Indecency - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:02] <exec> 08└─On the other side: how is this different from laws against public indecency, laws which are well-knitted into the fabric of westernized societies?
[13:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Indecency - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:04] <exec> 08└─Je Suis Charlie? Mais Non, Je Suis Charles Frederick Worth. [wikipedia.org] Ah, the French: Standing for free speech, when it's Politically Correct to do so.
[13:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Indecency - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:06] <exec> 08└─Are you confusing the people for their government? What country are you from such that that kind of confusion would even be possible? Not any country I know.
[13:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:3, Informative) 02Better Examples? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:07] <exec> 08└─On one side: governments regulating the BMI... (large soda ban [wikipedia.org])... hmm?
[13:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Better Examples? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:09] <exec> 08└─This doesn't mean it wasn't attempted. Anyway, my point was: Yes, it wasn't passed and I think is a good thing it wasn't: I don't want a nanny state. But on the other side, we still have a nanny state that governs already the acceptable level of "public in/decency", what are we to do with that? (I c...
[13:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Better Examples? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:11] <exec> 08└─This doesn't mean it wasn't attempted. Anyway, my point was: Yes, it wasn't passed and I think is a good thing it wasn't: I don't want a nanny state. But on the other side, we still have a nanny state that governs already the acceptable level of "public in/decency", what are we to do with that?
[13:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Better Examples? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:12] <exec> 08└─This law seems a little less so.
[13:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Better Examples? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:14] <exec> 08└─This law seems a little less so.
[13:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Better Examples? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:15] <exec> 08└─Actually, I don't see it as "nannying," as you put it. It's more like a busybody great aunt than a nanny.
[13:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Better Examples? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:17] <exec> 08└─Here's an example of a rational decision in regards with "social taboos" (the same kind as "public indecency" laws): German ethics council calls for incest between siblings to be legalised by Government [independent.co.uk].
[13:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better Examples? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:19] <exec> 08└─Actually there's a difference between indecency and incest: Incest has a high chance to produce genetically defective offspring. So unlike with indecency, there are actual ethical issues involved.
[13:37:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02Re:Better Examples? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:20] <exec> 08└─Incest doesn't have a greater chance of producing defective offspring than sex between people who are X number of years old. (I don't remember the exact value for X, but I believe it was less than 40.) Yet we don't ban such sex. Also, this reasoning wouldn't apply to homosexual incest.
[13:37:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Why the urge to become alike? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:22] <exec> 08└─I'll find it kind of interesting that people feel the urge to become like people in magazines and television etc. Instead of asking, what do *I* want.
[13:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Why the urge to become alike? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:23] <exec> 08└─Don't you think it might be a subconscious urge? Expose people to certain norms all the time, and their behavior and sense of self-worth will be affected. The pro-anorexia and bulimia communities just use the Web to take it a step further and codify a niche.
[13:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why the urge to become alike? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:25] <exec> 08└─Don't you think it might be a subconscious urge? Expose people to certain norms all the time, and their behavior and sense of self-worth will be affected.
[13:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Why the urge to become alike? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:27] <exec> 08└─Kinky.
[13:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why the urge to become alike? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:28] <exec> 08└─Just like my headphone chord baby.
[13:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Why the urge to become alike? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:30] <exec> 08└─Perhaps that's the core of the problem. Exposure is equals to norm in the subconscious of many people. And there's a subconscious drive for many to comply with the norm regardless of its merits or sanity.
[13:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why the urge to become alike? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:31] <exec> 08└─We are taught from birth to obey. If we do not, we are disciplined. So we grow up conditioned to do what others tell us to do. Except the leadership classes. They give, not take, orders. They are the ones apt to own the media, not watch the media. Certain classes seem born with a microphone in their...
[13:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why the urge to become alike? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:33] <exec> 08└─> Why the urge to become alike? Because we are social animals. The ability to coordinate with others and function as a group is the reason we have large enough brains to be conscious in the first place. Part of that is mimicry which encourages stronger bonds within the group. In the modern age whe...
[13:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02I like being fat - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:35] <exec> 08└─When I see myself in the mirror it reminds me of all those wonderful meals I ate.
[13:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:I like being fat - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:36] <exec> 08└─I used to be fat, when I looked at the mirror back then it reminds me of all the health issues I'll get when I get older.. now that I'm slim and fit through a lifestyle change and I look into the mirror it reminds me of all the wonderful food that I ate and how it won't make it overweight... yes you...
[13:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I like being fat - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:38] <exec> 08└─I'm fat. I don't like it, but it helps me cope. I have mega-stress in my life, and eating gives me a small sliver of relief. I will probably die "young". It may be sad, but for me, it's been worth it. I've been me. I've done amazing things by taking on some of that stress, and I feel like I've done...
[13:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02Re:I like being fat - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:39] <exec> 08└─I am actually loosing 4Kg/month but that's not what I was talking about.
[13:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:41] <exec> 08└─Seems like blatant discrimination. So any models that have naturally low BMI are now unemployable in their chosen profession. I'm glad a bill like this would have no chance in hell of surviving legal challenges if it was passed in the U.S.
[13:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:43] <exec> 08└─Seems like blatant discrimination. So any models that have naturally low BMI are now unemployable in their chosen profession.
[13:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:44] <exec> 08└─It's not the same for the military because they are the military, and have their own set of laws: the Uniform Code of Military Justice [wikipedia.org]. They even have their own court system that if you are convicted in of anything, the state you committed the crime in can try you for it again, effec...
[13:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:46] <exec> 08└─Bzzzt... wrong [army.mil] in this case In 2013, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta signed a document to lift the Defense Department's ban on women in direct ground combat roles. This historical decision overturned a 1994 Pentagon rule that restricts women from artillery, armor, infantry, and other co...
[13:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:1) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:47] <exec> 08└─They could always get surgery and get some fat implants.
[13:37:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03cwadge [3324] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:49] <exec> 08└─Very true indeed. I dated a girl in high school who had an extremely thin build, and yeah, she happened to be a model. She ate almost as many calories as I did (3000+ a day), and never could gain any weight. Same thing with another girl in my outer circle of friends. The latter was so underweight (t...
[13:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:51] <exec> 08└─This disproportionate representation of the naturally super-skinny as the ideal standard for beauty is leading impressionable teenagers to try and replicate that body image through starvation dieting. The online "Pro-anorexia" movement is promoting a lifestyle based around a mental illness and it's...
[13:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:52] <exec> 08└─If the genepool needs some bleach, we shouldn't turn away volunteers.
[13:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:54] <exec> 08└─If the genepool needs some bleach
[13:37:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:55] <exec> 08└─Hahhaah, that's the most hilarious thing I've seen in ages. Thanks for the laugh!
[13:37:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:57] <exec> 08└─By your logic we should ban all depictions of fat people being happy in media... because this encourages people that they can be happy no matter what size they are.
[13:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:59] <exec> 08└─I have a friend who is like that. She can eat as much food as I can (someone who is into power lifting) yet doesn't gain any weight. I'm 5'9" and 260 lbs and for a workout (3 sets of 10 reps) bench 455lbs, squat 685, clean and jerk 365, and curl 185, etc., on the other hand she is 5'6" and about 105...
[13:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Discrimination? - 06French Consider Law Banning "Super-skinny" Models - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:00] <exec> 08└─> any models that have naturally low BMI are now unemployable Which means that any models that are particularly short are now unemployable, as BMI (with an exponent of 2, despite the fact we live in a 3-dimensional world[*]) doesn't scale sensibly with height. So not only is this a bullshit law in p...
[13:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Interesting) 02GMeet - 06CNET Update: Apple Watch, Skype Translator, and Google's GMeet - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:02] <exec> 08└─Isn't this available already with every smartphone, tablet, or just about any PC with a camera via Google Hangouts? (which does not require a google Plus account)? Agreed that conference bridges are so last century. But do we need another one? Personally I refuse to buy a laptop with a camera in it...
[13:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:GMeet - 06CNET Update: Apple Watch, Skype Translator, and Google's GMeet - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:04] <exec> 08└─Personally I refuse to buy a laptop with a camera in it just so I can avoid all these video conferences
[13:38:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Quick review! - 06CNET Update: Apple Watch, Skype Translator, and Google's GMeet - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:05] <exec> 08└─Newsflash: Flash is a security hole sitting on your nose. (and isn't universally supported, and when it is it comes with spamware in some cases) Apple i-Watch-you: Will give you large bills, walled garden and larger opportunity to spy on you. Skype: Locates your face and send it off to that Utah bun...
[13:38:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Who Has Time for Video? - 06CNET Update: Apple Watch, Skype Translator, and Google's GMeet - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:07] <exec> 08└─Did anyone actually watch the video? I didn't and won't. Especially because the stupid proprietary flash crap means I can't play at 1.3x speed to get to the meat without being bored out of my head.
[13:38:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Who Has Time for Video? - 06CNET Update: Apple Watch, Skype Translator, and Google's GMeet - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:08] <exec> 08└─What? There was video? I only saw the Flash thingy, and I block that by default. And when I don't, it doesn't work any way. A message appears warning me of armaggedon if I don't upgrade, and when I follow the link, it says no upgrade available for Linux. So really, the problem solves itself.
[13:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 848 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:10] <exec> 08└─There are approximately 1million sworn officers in the USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]). They interact with many citizens (non, too) every day. They interact with multiple suspects every day. They arrest ~12million times a year (http://www.fbi.g...
[13:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:12] <exec> 08└─When errors means that people gets killed or injured for life. The scrutiny is going to be way higher.
[13:38:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:13] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile, NYC went 12 days without a murder recently (hopefully more, please). The problem is the cops. They should shoot the murderers, not the ones running away. Lower both the type I errors and the type II errors, a perfectly square ROC curve is the only acceptable solution. (perfectly impossibl...
[13:38:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:15] <exec> 08└─They should shoot the murderers, not the ones running away. How can we afford to be paying all those police officers a Judge's salary?
[13:38:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:16] <exec> 08└─Civil forfeiture - convenient, existing, and now that they only shoot murderers, fair.
[13:38:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:18] <exec> 08└─Clearly we need to make all police officers judges [wikipedia.org] too.
[13:38:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:20] <exec> 08└─Or have their heads burst open while being too belligerent for their own good.
[13:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:21] <exec> 08└─Sky is grey here. You must be biased. Please visit an eye Dr.
[13:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Insightful) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:23] <exec> 08└─You're too clever for the rest of us - go to the top of the class. Just remember that the top of the special class is still below the average class, dipshit: sky is blue, clouds are grey.
[13:38:24] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03davester666 [155] 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 347 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:24] <exec> 08└─Sure, police aren't killing every black person they see. So everything is just great. This is about a pattern of non-white people being searched/arrested/beaten/killed at a much higher rate than for white people. These are just the most egregious examples of the simply-put, illegal targeting of blac...
[13:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:26] <exec> 08└─Maybe they just target sketchy looking people wearing low hanging pants and wearing sideways hats hanging out on the corner in a sketchy neighborhood. It's just those people tend to be black.
[13:38:27] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 1176 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:28] <exec> 08└─You are presuming an awful lot. It is well known that whites' involvement with drugs on a percentage basis is slightly greater than that for Hispanics or African Americans. Yet every stat on arrest, trial, incarceration, and sentence length has shown that those who engage in illegal drug activity ac...
[13:38:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:29] <exec> 08└─Great post. A white middle manager probably would hire a good lawyer too, which would probably result in a reduced sentence (if any). Poor people go to jail Middle class pays fines Rich people get an apology
[13:38:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:31] <exec> 08└─Arguably, there is no point fining poor people who have no money.
[13:38:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oddly-named town with a big problem - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:33] <exec> 08└─In Country Club Hills, Missouri (a community whose residents obviously have no spare cash to blow on cotillions or golf tournaments) There Are 26 Open Warrants Per Citizen. [alternet.org] over 35,000 outstanding arrest warrants, or a mind blowing 26.9 per resident
[13:38:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:34] <exec> 08└─Maybe government thugs shouldn't be harassing people for the way they chose to dress in the first place.
[13:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Chicken Little FTW!!! - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:36] <exec> 08└─But!...But!...How will we distinguish 'them' from 'us'?!?!?! ;-)
[13:38:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:37] <exec> 08└─1. Fashion is no reason to arrest someone, let alone beat or kill them. 2. Baggy clothing is a style that comes from hand-me-downs, ie. people too poor to buy new sets of clothing wear those of their older relatives. 3. If you live in a "sketchy" neighborhood, would you really want to stand out from...
[13:38:38] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03gman003 [4155] 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 452 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:39] <exec> 08└─The thing that is "systematic" is that such people are protected by their fellow cops and ignored by the justice system, unless an overwhelming amount of evidence and public outcry forces them to act the way they should (and even then, they often do not). This case is exceptional in two ways - first...
[13:38:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Interesting) 02"rare" - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:41] <exec> 08└─You have a curious definition of that word. American police killed more people in March (111) than the entire UK police have killed since 1900 [dailykos.com] -- gewg_
[13:38:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03m2o2r2g2 [3673] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:"rare" - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:42] <exec> 08└─Police in the US also killed far more US people than terrorists. Yet the public gave the police more powers to hunt the terrorists.
[13:38:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:44] <exec> 08└─Until the cop is actually convicted and put in jail he has "gotten away with it". I've seen the video. If it had been anyone other than a cop pulling the trigger the local DA would be all over the news saying he was going to seek the death penalty, if the shooter wasn't already dead in a hail of pol...
[13:38:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:45] <exec> 08└─I'm sure if you were in charge the cop would be swinging from rope already. He's fired. He's in Jail on a Murder charge. There is no Blue line of silence protecting him. His Dash Cam footage is going to show equally incriminating evidence. There is no way you can call this "Getting Away With It". Y...
[13:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:47] <exec> 08└─>> the local DA would be all over the news saying he was going to seek the death penalty, >> Until this cop gets at least the same, > > You seem to be lobbying for vigilante justice here. That is one weird definition of vigilante you have there.
[13:38:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:49] <exec> 08└─His Dash Cam footage is going to show equally incriminating evidence.
[13:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:50] <exec> 08└─In Dallas the cops have 72 hours to watch the video themselves and get their stories straight [techdirt.com] before they have to go on the record with their version of events.
[13:38:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:52] <exec> 08└─The fact that this didn't come out on its own due to the dash cam video before the police reports were released is strongly suggestive of an intentional higher up coverup.
[13:38:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:54] <exec> 08└─Probably not a deliberate cover-up, just a set of procedures that don't require verifying the officer's word. 10 to 1 when they put the dashcams in they simply didn't bother to update their process to use them as a matter of course. Neglect, extremely convenient neglect, but still just neglect that...
[13:38:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:55] <exec> 08└─Oh ye of obvious leaning, verily I say to you that you are living in a bubble. Open your eyes and leave the misconceptions of how the world really works in the past where they originated.
[13:38:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:57] <exec> 08└─Not systemic and widespread. Dealt with using normal procedures (with its own error rate).
[13:38:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:58] <exec> 08└─I wonder how the error rate that results in police brutality compares to other countries. Does the US have a higher error rate than other developed countries? Comparing the police in the US to those in other countries may be a better way to judge how much error we should expect instead of a hyperbol...
[13:38:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:"systemic and widespread" - horse pucky - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:00] <exec> 08└─Nonsense. Not all abuses result in people being severely injured or killed. The abuses less talked about are drug enforcement, stop-and-frisk (which is less talked about on the individual level), and warrantless surveillance. There is also the fact that while the thugs who commit the most heinous ac...
[13:39:01] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03TK-421 [3235] 02Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 1044 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:02] <exec> 08└─I just watched the video. Holy cow! It looks like nothing more than clear cut murder with some negligence on top (shooting rapidly with your backstop either an obvious fleeing human or a public street). Anyone who knows my posting history would know that I usually come out on the side of the police...
[13:39:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:03] <exec> 08└─It's also about the choice of saving one person or saving 100s of persons in the future by forcing society to change. There is perhaps not a clear answer. But there's a choice one has to make.
[13:39:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 1886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:05] <exec> 08└─I agree with you that the video shows vile conduct deserving of the harshest punishment for the cop. There are two things that make hesitant to believe that will happen. 1) This is taking place in NC and from things I read this morning while perusing the news indicate that NC has a bad record of pun...
[13:39:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:07] <exec> 08└─The video will force the issue. If legal system doesn't handle this properly, riots are likely to occur. It seems every time people in power are caught on camera they get charged. Otherwise they can game the system.
[13:39:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:08] <exec> 08└─Rodney King? LA Riots? http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] In the decades since the LA Riots, it appears the cops have upped their game from getting caught on camera beating a person to the edge of death, to just shooting them dead. And while rioting is all exciting a...
[13:39:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:10] <exec> 08└─I think it is the threat of rioting that gives the peaceful protests teeth. The two groups don't even need to be coordinated or share common members. Just the fact that there are some people willing to absolutely lose their shit given enough provocation gives the powers be reason to come to the nego...
[13:39:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pherenikos [1113] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:12] <exec> 08└─While this video seems very clear cut, what strikes me was the apparent planting of evidence by the officer. Without this damning piece of evidence it might have been a case of "he said, she said ..."
[13:39:12] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 91 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:13] <exec> 08└─Without this damning piece of evidence it might have been a case of "he said, she said ..."
[13:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:15] <exec> 08└─There is a fence between the black man filming and the event that occurred. I wonder if that serendipitous fence saved him from a trip to the hospital, jail, or morgue.
[13:39:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03hamsterdan [2829] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:16] <exec> 08└─That's why you use something that uploads the video in real time. Might not prevent a cop from beating you up, but evidence won't be destroyed...
[13:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:18] <exec> 08└─The trial is going to focus on what isn't seen before the shooting and all of that can be made up. All the cop needs to get a an acquittal is to give the jurors an excuse to rule that way.
[13:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 2057 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:20] <exec> 08└─If the cop is not convicted at trial, that lack of conviction will be secured before the evidentiary phase even starts during the jury selection process. The Defense just has to get one person who will look for any excuse to rule in favor of the cop, and then give him or her that reason by making up...
[13:39:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:21] <exec> 08└─Bullshit, the dumbass fought with a cop, that's a well deserved shot.
[13:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:23] <exec> 08└─Your implied and silent N word after the word dumbass was not very obscure.
[13:39:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:25] <exec> 08└─I didn't imply anything of the kind. But if the shoe fits, so be it.
[13:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:26] <exec> 08└─Racist doesn't think he's racist. News at 11.
[13:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:28] <exec> 08└─However, I cannot easily separate these video takers from those who film things like all the recent fast food beat downs or something like this from this most recent filming.
[13:39:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03drgibbon [74] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:29] <exec> 08└─AC beatdown, live on SoylentNews.
[13:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:31] <exec> 08└─>lavender pill lavender? you're gay? i dont understand. wut?
[13:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:33] <exec> 08└─it's a corruption of corrupt memes: http://knowyourmeme.com [knowyourmeme.com] your guess is as good as mine
[13:39:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:34] <exec> 08└─The person with the camera could have been "aired out" / "ventilated" / "shot to death" by this guy with a badge. Next thing you know the cop is sprinkling coke on him and dropped a side arm by him. What the hell would you have done to a cop who just killed someone when you are on the other side of...
[13:39:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02Re:Lavendar pill - 06The Courage of Bystanders Who Press 'Record' - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:36] <exec> 08└─If the assailant is female, and you are male, defending the person being beaten is extremely dangerous to your personal freedom because of biases in the system against a man hitting a woman. If the assailant is underage, it's even worse. Not to mention that the assailant can just lie to the police a...
[13:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Wrong, it only hurts some people - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:38] <exec> 08└─Climate change hurts the health of people that doesn't have the money to protect them self. Insect borne disease will however likely bite on an quite equal basis.
[13:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong, it only hurts some people - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:39] <exec> 08└─Not even insects will affect everyone the same. I spend most weekdays in a climate controlled building that is (mostly) devoid of insects. A construction worker or whatever will see a lot more bugs than I.
[13:39:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong, it only hurts some people - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:41] <exec> 08└─Sure you have a lower probability. But it only takes ONE bite anytime from an insect hiding in your car or in your home. Or just walking somewhere.
[13:39:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:42] <exec> 08└─Claiming that climate change is directly responsible for his daughter's asthma he condemns his own daughter to victim-hood. He decides that the length of the growing season must be held exactly as it is (because we all know it is a universal, standard length, right) or millions of children will get...
[13:39:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:44] <exec> 08└─Pollution, you say... gee wonder what happens to all that smoke
[13:39:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:46] <exec> 08└─It goes up the smoke stack and we never have to worry about it again.
[13:39:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:47] <exec> 08└─Oh boy, can't wait for rev al to jump on this and play the race card. "Dem white people caused it"
[13:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:49] <exec> 08└─Well... 'Dem white people' did start it with the industrial revolution, so he'd have a valid argument.
[13:39:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:51] <exec> 08└─No it was the slash and burn technology of tribal peoples. And, whites were late comers to the industrial revolution.
[13:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:52] <exec> 08└─Do your history books start with Adam and Eve riding dinosaurs?
[13:39:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:54] <exec> 08└─<pedantic>Triggers and causes for asthma are two different things. As for the second [mayoclinic.org], even Mayo Clinic admits: more research is needed to determine what role they may play in developing asthma.
[13:39:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:57] <exec> 08└─Lack of germs, natural pollution and parasites is suspected to cause asthma and overreaction of the immune defense.
[13:39:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:00] <exec> 08└─Nope. He has spoken. [thehill.com] Malia's Asthma is due to climate change.
[13:40:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Plays the child card - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:03] <exec> 08└─How about the fact that his daughter lives with a cigarette smoker? That's a huge risk factor for respiratory conditions, and cigarette smoke is one of the most common triggers for paroxysmal episodes. If he is truly concerned about the causes for his daughter's asthma, he needs look no further than...
[13:40:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Obamacare is raising climate change... - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:06] <exec> 08└─from all the hot air being emitted from the bullshit it contains.
[13:40:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:Obamacare is raising climate change... - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:09] <exec> 08└─In other news, the President is still Black.
[13:40:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Obamacare is raising climate change... - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:12] <exec> 08└─Last black celeb that tried to turn white didn't end up well.
[13:40:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Obamacare is raising climate change... - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:13] <exec> 08└─You are badly missing the point. President is staying Black, racists still want "their" country back (Hi! Rand Paul!), and Global Warming is a hoax perpetrated by those scientists who have actual learning and stuffs. Dog-whistles, we hearz 'em.
[13:40:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Snotnose sez - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:15] <exec> 08└─Obama is hurting American's health. We have fewer, less severe wildfires now than we did 100 years ago. The difference is now there are buildings right next to the fuel. The key question is: will this get modded off-topic, troll, insightful, or spiffy?
[13:40:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Snotnose sez - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:17] <exec> 08└─We have fewer, less severe wildfires now than we did 100 years ago. That is simply not true. [scienceblogs.com]
[13:40:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Snotnose sez - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:18] <exec> 08└─Not true. That is why I would mod "Spiffy". It has that ring of truthiness. I miss Colbert!
[13:40:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02How would you do it? - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:20] <exec> 08└─You may not like the president...you may not agree with his approach. But climate change is a major issue that many Americans don't seem to give a crap about at all. Perhaps an appeal to the health of the people might wake people up to the reality of their situation.
[13:40:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wheres the science? - 06Obama Says Climate Change is Harming Americans’ Health - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:21] <exec> 08└─I guess it'll be a chapter in AR6 written by climatologists and no actual doctors. Like their efforts on Malaria - apparently mosquitoes dont fly in cold weather according to their paradigm-smashing PR army...
[13:40:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Not on topic - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 745 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:23] <exec> 08└─Do any of the projects take advantage of what the PSoC can do? They all look like arduino/pi ideas that someone rammed into a different system. The PSoC has some pretty interesting abilities, none of which seem to have been taken advantage of, which is too bad. I'm not talking about the project idea...
[13:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Not on topic - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:25] <exec> 08└─I agree completely. I visited the article with the question "Oh, what can PSoC do that an Arduino/PIC/etc system can't?" I still have this question. From taking a look at the wiki [wikipedia.org], the best answer I can come up with is; The same things a normal Arduino can do, but will less discrete...
[13:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Not on topic - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 998 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:27] <exec> 08└─Its that they used so little of the chips capabilities that I found it weird. So you got "up to 72 I/O" so none of the project use more than like two peripheral devices probably one SPI/I2C bus (which the thing can do in hardware) So you got onboard bluetooth which was leveraged... err most of the e...
[13:40:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Not on topic - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:28] <exec> 08└─What's LoC class of problem?
[13:40:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Not on topic - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:30] <exec> 08└─LoC = lines of code. Large flash memories allow for larger amounts of static code to be ran. Another benefit is the ability to store large/multiple lookup tables for things like sine waves.
[13:40:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Not on topic - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:31] <exec> 08└─"Oh, what can PSoC do that an Arduino/PIC/etc system can't?" It's got built in BlueTooth. That's about the only uncommon feature I noticed.
[13:40:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Not on topic - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:33] <exec> 08└─and the integrated programmable analog opamps and comparators and analog routing matrix and the integrated PLD (read CPLD or FPGA capability) perhaps features not really needed for the Maker community, but it's great when you want to cut your BOM cost by 50-75% for a mixed mode application. One of t...
[13:40:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02My personal entry... - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 1417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:35] <exec> 08└─... would send massive amounts of spam to whoever is being this Internet of Things nonsense, to inform them that I don't want my Things to be on the Internet. Now there are choices I can make, such as to purchase antique automobiles, but no doubt the day will come that it is flatly illegal to drive...
[13:40:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:My personal entry... - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:36] <exec> 08└─I think I can understand why you were held at a psychiatric hospital.
[13:40:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Asserting my rights as a hospital patient - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 863 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:38] <exec> 08└─it is quite common that psychiatric hospital staff are completely unaware of the rights that are guaranteed to psychiatric hospital patients. I am fond of two specific ones: the first that I am permitted to wear my own clothes, the second that I am permitted to manage my own affairs. Thus, when I wa...
[13:40:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Asserting my rights as a hospital patient - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:40] <exec> 08└─Isn't permission to manage your own affairs. Exactly what is restricted in such circumstances? And your ability to carry them out may be compromised by medicine, fatigue, distraction, ability to communicate etc. But this makes me wonder if they really have permission to grab someone because they thi...
[13:40:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Sorry - "financial affairs" - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:41] <exec> 08└─Two specific cases, I needed to get on the internet to do some money transfers. The staff asserted that I did not have the right to get on the Internet. I threatened them with lawsuits, was presented with mobile devices that enabled me to do my transfers. When in a mental hospital, one has a legal r...
[13:40:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Sorry - "financial affairs" - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:43] <exec> 08└─Why would they have the obligation to provide internet? And doing business from an institution would likely be hard without an laptop.
[13:40:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Because that is what I required to manage my money - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 1486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:44] <exec> 08└─And yes the hospital staff protested that I don't have a right to Internet. The argument went back and forth between my pointing out that I have a right to "manage my own financial affairs" - as is what the law actually says - and then my pointing out that I require Internet to actually do so. We go...
[13:40:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Because that is what I required to manage my mo - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:46] <exec> 08└─I thought you meant Internet access when you were a free person so to say. But if one is involuntarily confined in any way. The organization that does so is also obliged to various things regardless of what they say. Otherwise it's like confining people to prison inside a concrete building and tell...
[13:40:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"their own problem to grow food" - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:48] <exec> 08└─My understanding is that it's rather like that in Mexico. I've been told that inmates are only able to eat, if their friends or family bring them food. The US legal tradition is based on British Common Law, but Mexico was once a French possession, thus it uses the Napoleonic Code, in which one is pr...
[13:40:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Legal theory behind involuntary hospitalization - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:49] <exec> 08└─... is much the same as that behind medical treatment of the unconscious. Suppose you had been shot, or knocked in the head or something. You are unable to give permission for medical treatment, as would be legally required were you not incapacitated. The legal theory holds that, were you in a posit...
[13:40:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Legal theory behind involuntary hospitalization - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:51] <exec> 08└─What I find peculiar is that their speculation as to what "camping in the dessert" meant gave them the right to involuntarily commit someone that is conscious able to make decisions about their own person. The lack of actual verbal threats makes it really peculiar. Perhaps it was looks or body langu...
[13:40:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Legal theory behind involuntary hospitalization - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:53] <exec> 08└─I hope you're feeling better, after what sounds like a difficult time. Try to remember, the medication will help you, and you shouldn't stop taking it because you feel better. Your doctor will be a better judge of that.
[13:40:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:My personal entry... - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:54] <exec> 08└─Burning man does look like a lot of fun. If you substitute "Internet of Things" with "Network of Things" you might appreciate it more. I'm sure there are a lot of networked/wireless dodads at burning man.
[13:40:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:My personal entry... - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:56] <exec> 08└─have their thermostats set over the Internet from somewhere in the midwest.
[13:40:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:My personal entry... - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:58] <exec> 08└─Aye, my bad. *blushes*
[13:40:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Editing - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:59] <exec> 08└─Title should be "PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes", not "PSoC Maker Contest looking for votes".
[13:41:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:Editing - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:01] <exec> 08└─Wow, can't even respond to the correct comment today. this [soylentnews.org] was meant to be a reply to you, and is aptly worded still.
[13:41:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Editing - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:03] <exec> 08└─I should have replied to the other comment, to keep things confusing. :) No worries, though. :)
[13:41:03] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02PSoC Not Welcome Here - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 598 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:04] <exec> 08└─I don't have any interest in PSoC, because all the PSoC development tools are extremely unfriendly to free software. These days, most microcontroller development software is free and open source - AVR, STM32, PIC, etc. all have fully functional open source development tools, but not PSoC. The PSoC i...
[13:41:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03morpheus [1989] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:PSoC Not Welcome Here - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:06] <exec> 08└─Indeed. Same for FPGA and PLA (although I believe Lattice may be an exception). Other than the fear of exposing themselves to patent litigation, why are these companies so reluctant to even provide the documentation for their products?
[13:41:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:PSoC Not Welcome Here - 06PSoC Maker Contest Looking for Votes - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:07] <exec> 08└─At least FPGA tools run on Linux.
[13:41:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:4, Interesting) 02I learned to touch-type with a video game - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 1468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:09] <exec> 08└─I expect you young folks all knew how to touch-type from a very early age, but back when I walked uphill both ways barefoot in the snow to school, typing was not taught to schoolboys. I did quite a lot of coding as well as writing of essays in college but even so I became very quick about typing wit...
[13:41:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I learned to touch-type with a video game - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:11] <exec> 08└─I wanted to learn how to touch type, so every day for about an hour I forced myself to type while only looking at the screen. a hundred thousand words later, I was completely unable to remember what it was like not to touch type. and it was liberating to put stuff into words too. I think I was 19 or...
[13:41:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:I learned to touch-type with a video game - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:12] <exec> 08└─Similar situation and age-at-time-of-relearning here.
[13:41:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:I learned to touch-type with a video game - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:14] <exec> 08└─I learned similarly on the number pad for unit direction in the original Civilization.
[13:41:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03draconx [4649] (Score:1) 02Re:I learned to touch-type with a video game - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:16] <exec> 08└─Speaking of video games, The Typing of the Dead [wikipedia.org] is perhaps the most brilliant typing tutor program ever developed. It was an arcade game based off a rail shooter that was later ported to Dreamcast and Windows (runs in wine). You kill zombies by typing the words or phrases that appear...
[13:41:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:I learned to touch-type with a video game - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:17] <exec> 08└─For me, it was 1993, Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, on a 486-SX20 (which I thought was a screaming machine compared to what I had left over from college -- hmmm, remember the "turbo" button -- really a "slow down" button? I can't remember when that went away).
[13:41:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:I learned to touch-type with a video game - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:19] <exec> 08└─When you have learned to touch-type you figure out the reason why qwerty is ordered that way is because it makes people slower at typing. And that another order is way more efficient.. if you can unlearn qwerty.
[13:41:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I've always wanted to try a one-handed chorded key - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:20] <exec> 08└─-board. Unfortunately, qwerty is "good enough for me". How many trillions of dollars of lost productivity have resulted from the qwerty keyboard? The real reason for it was that intuitively-arranged keys enabled one to type so fast that they jammed the crude mechanisms of the earliest mechanical typ...
[13:41:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:I've always wanted to try a one-handed chorded - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:22] <exec> 08└─The hard part is getting a spare keyboard for laptops etc that have a different order of the keys. Or repaint them in a way that won't loose its print. I actually tested some calculation of a better layout and the numbers just screams out that a qwerty-board is horribly flawed. It's obvious that mor...
[13:41:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I learned to touch-type with a video game - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:24] <exec> 08└─I switched from QWERTY to Dvorak a few years ago and am extremely grateful for having done so. I've always been a quick learner, but I feel like the trick for this specific change (or any change that involves overwriting one skill with a similar one) is to force yourself to ONLY use the new layout....
[13:41:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:I learned to touch-type with a video game - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:25] <exec> 08└─Really? I took typing class in grade 8, back in '82, starting with manual typewriters, then moving to electric ones. Kicked everyones ass, both in typing speed and in ability to proofread. Wound up 3rd fastest in either the district or the city that year [for that grade], might have been second if I...
[13:41:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02The difference between your 8th grade and mine - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 5969 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:27] <exec> 08└─I myself graduated high school in 1982 - Armijo High School in Fairfield, California. When I was in eighth grade, our Algebra I book discusses the PL/I programming language extensively. I was hoping we'd get to learn computer programming but no, we only discussed Algebra. At my high school, they had...
[13:41:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference between your 8th grade and mine - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:29] <exec> 08└─Not that different. I would write out pages and pages of AppleBasic, assember and machine code [manually converted assembler to machine code] at home to type into the Apple computer at school which I only had access to a couple hours a week.
[13:41:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I learned to touch-type with a video game - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:30] <exec> 08└─Mario Teaches Typing [wikipedia.org] worked for me
[13:41:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02No mention of learning methods? - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:32] <exec> 08└─There are several distinct learning methods. Some people are very tactile, others are visual, yet others are verbal. Some people can readily understand printed instructions, others can't. Did these researchers make any attempt to distinguish the test subject's learning methods? If different people a...
[13:41:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:No mention of learning methods? - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:33] <exec> 08└─Did these researchers make any attempt to distinguish the test subject's learning methods?
[13:41:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No mention of learning methods? - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:35] <exec> 08└─There are several distinct learning methods.
[13:41:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Then/than mistake in title - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:37] <exec> 08└─Sorry for being a grammar nazi. Two mistakes in title, number mismatch on Examine and then/than switch at the end. Title should read: Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others
[13:41:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:Then/than mistake in title - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:38] <exec> 08└─Cool thanks, will fix.
[13:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Then/than mistake in title - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:40] <exec> 08└─The editors here have learned to own up with grace and fix errors quicker than those at Slashdot.
[13:41:41] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Megahard [4782] 02So that explains it - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 150 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:42] <exec> 08└─"counterintuitive as it may seem, the participants who showed decreased neural activity learned the fastest." So that's why Brontosaurus was a genius.
[13:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So that explains it - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:43] <exec> 08└─In other words, the people best able to focus on demand learned the best?
[13:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not counter-intuitive to me - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 1406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:45] <exec> 08└─Certain areas of the brain are specialized for a given type of task. Some people already had the well-developed areas of the brain required for the game. The others had to get help from other areas of the brain. There are parts of the brain that are highly specialized but they are multi-functional....
[13:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not counter-intuitive to me - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:46] <exec> 08└─I think much of it is that if you have two pieces of information located on opposite ends of the brain it will take longer to join those pieces of information together. It's like having multiple computers ten miles apart trying to collectively perform a common task that requires a lot of communicati...
[13:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This isn't new. - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:48] <exec> 08└─It should be noted that this is nothing new. I remember reading something like this in my biology or anatomy book years back. When first learning a skill there is plenty of visible brain activity going on. After mastering the skill there is much less brain activity going on when performing the given...
[13:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:This isn't new. - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:50] <exec> 08└─Isn't the point that people with brains that does multiple processing of the same input will have more neural coordination to handle than people with less neural capacity? Thus people with more neurons will learn slower than people with less. But that may also mean that the former group can exploit...
[13:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03m2o2r2g2 [3673] (Score:1) 02Re:This isn't new. - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:51] <exec> 08└─I seem to recall the process was called perceptual chunking (or just chunking [wikipedia.org]). As you get good at something, you don't need to concentrate on every detail (think driving etc). The people who showed less activity probably already had a foundation in a similar (enough) type of activit...
[13:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This isn't new. - 06Study Examines Why Some Learn Skills Faster than Others - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:53] <exec> 08└─I think it's well established that someone that knows how to play one musical instrument will generally learn a second instrument faster than someone trying to learn that instrument with no prior instrumental experience.
[13:41:54] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02IQ - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 463 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:55] <exec> 08└─I'm sure it was a fairly intelligent dinosaur, I've seen dinosaur train with my kids and not being a city boy I've seen real live herbivores and they're not necessarily stupid. Genius might be going a bit far, thats usually limited to Einstein and Socrates and Newton and the like and with respect to...
[13:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:IQ - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:56] <exec> 08└─> I'm sure it was a fairly intelligent dinosaur Hey there mighty brontosaurus Don't you have a message for us You thought your rule would always last There were no lessons in your past You were built three stories high They say you would not hurt a fly If we explode the atom bomb Would they say that...
[13:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03GeminiDomino [661] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:IQ - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:58] <exec> 08└─Wow, you don't get Police lyrics very often these days. Well done.
[13:41:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IQ - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:59] <exec> 08└─More proof that there is no one under the age of 30 on this site and very few under the age of 40...
[13:42:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03GeminiDomino [661] (Score:2) 02Re:IQ - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:01] <exec> 08└─You say that like it's a) actually true and b) a bad thing.
[13:42:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:IQ - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:03] <exec> 08└─When the world is running down, You make the best of what's still around. Could add that to everything that's happened in the past 15-20 years....
[13:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IQ - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:04] <exec> 08└─> Could add that to everything that's happened in the past 15-20 years.... Every year ever.
[13:42:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02how boring - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:06] <exec> 08└─taxonomy and semantics
[13:42:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:how boring - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:08] <exec> 08└─Whoever wrote the headline is no genius . . . nor is a genus.
[13:42:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:how boring - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:09] <exec> 08└─Lisa: A Rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Bart: Not if you called 'em Stenchblossoms.
[13:42:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:how boring - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but does this mean the Pluto gets to be a dinosaur again?
[13:42:12] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Not genus - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 33 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:13] <exec> 08└─If he so smart, how come he dead?
[13:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Disagree) 02Re:Not genus - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:14] <exec> 08└─Whatever Brontosaurus was, I can tell you what you are not: A genius.
[13:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Not genus - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:16] <exec> 08└─http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p43/xXCrocmonXx/tumblr_m7feihJ1QP1rs7oa9_zpsbdd393d0.png [photobucket.com]
[13:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:4, Funny) 02Make up your mind, science! - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:17] <exec> 08└─Is Pluto a planet? Are eggs bad for you? Did the Brontosaurus ever exist? Do you know how many people I have to call up and apologize every time you change you mind, science? DO YOU?????!!!
[13:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make up your mind, science! - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:19] <exec> 08└─The answer to all those questions are both.
[13:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Make up your mind, science! - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:21] <exec> 08└─I suggest you stay away from the controversial ones. Discuss relativity instead; I doubt those geocentrists who think it's a conspiracy to hide the existence of luminiferous aether are going to be coming up with anything notable in the next few years.
[13:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Make up your mind, science! - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:22] <exec> 08└─You orbital activists are all the same. You blame everything on "gravity." I bet you think even Global Warming is caused by this "gravity" making air and co2 just magically stick to the ground. Unbelievable!
[13:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make up your mind, science! - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:24] <exec> 08└─We'll see if the International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature has more integrity than a certain portion of the IAU, and that they'll open it to scientific concensus and not simply railroad some flawed definition [bbc.co.uk] through.
[13:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:Make up your mind, science! - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:25] <exec> 08└─I'm pulling for Pluto. Come on buddy, you can do it! Just a little more mass and then no one can deny that you're really a real planet!
[13:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Make up your mind, science! - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:27] <exec> 08└─This sparks my curiosity. How many PHBs and bureaucrats would we need to ship to Pluto before it would have enough mass to become a planet?
[13:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Make up your mind, science! - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:29] <exec> 08└─I don't know, but since it's obviously more than 0, let's get started on that right away!
[13:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:4, Funny) 02A Genius Brontosaurus - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:30] <exec> 08└─reminded me of this PBF comic. http://www.pbfcomics.com [pbfcomics.com]
[13:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dino Just Like Ethanol - 06New Research Says Brontosaurus Actually was a Genus - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:32] <exec> 08└─Smart as a Bronto, hung like Einstein.
[13:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Simple explanation - 06New Study Hints at Spontaneous Appearance of Primordial DNA - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:34] <exec> 08└─This is all pretty easily explained. Several billion years ago, some 10-foot-tall humans came here and seeded the planet [imdb.com] with their DNA, after one of them ingested some kind of black liquid and quickly dissolved.
[13:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple explanation - 06New Study Hints at Spontaneous Appearance of Primordial DNA - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:35] <exec> 08└─Too bad they didn't ever made any prequels to Alien series.
[13:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Too reductionist for my taste. - 06New Study Hints at Spontaneous Appearance of Primordial DNA - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:37] <exec> 08└─At sulphur spewing under sea vents we have found them lined with enzymes (another building block of life), which are self assembling across the thermal gradient. Relying solely on self-assembly of the DNA or RNA itself for the explanation of the origins of life while not taking coexisting complex en...
[13:42:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 413 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:39] <exec> 08└─> Reading the link, it appears that no, the Rands aren't copyright maximalists. > ... > "what is considered to be in the public domain should be greatly expanded." No, you have that backwards. That is not one of their tenets, it is a belief they are criticizing. They want to do the reverse of that....
[13:42:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 301 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:40] <exec> 08└─I prefer to speak about whatever is under discussion, whether that be copyrights, patents, or trademarks. The term "intellectual property" makes it seem as if it is similar to real property, but this is mere propaganda designed to confuse those that haven't researched the matter (the general public)...
[13:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1, Disagree) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:42] <exec> 08└─The term "intellectual property" makes it seem as if it is similar to real property
[13:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:43] <exec> 08└─Real property is both rivalrous and excludable. Intellectual property is not. The entire concept of capitalism rests on those two characteristics of property.
[13:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:45] <exec> 08└─Real property is both rivalrous and excludable.
[13:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:47] <exec> 08└─Where's the -1 Dense as Dogshit mod option when you need it?
[13:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:48] <exec> 08└─I see you would already misuse the mod. Nobody changes their mind just because you posted shit on the internet. But they might, if you had a real argument to go with it. To recap this thread, an earlier AC poster claimed that "intellectual property" was a propaganda term because it wasn't "similar...
[13:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:50] <exec> 08└─No. It is someone claiming ownership over a mere idea, or an implementation of a specific idea. It's when someone tries to control *your* physical property because they think they can own some idea. No harm comes from copying 'their' data, either. Lack of gain is not harm. How can certain bits on a...
[13:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:51] <exec> 08└─It's when someone tries to control *your* physical property because they think they can own some idea.
[13:42:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 799 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:53] <exec> 08└─I think we all understand that there are some points of difference between Rand Paul and his dad, just like there are differences between Jeb Bush and his brother, and differences between Hillary Clinton and her husband. But there's also a lot of continuity in all of those cases: Not just that the c...
[13:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 1334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:55] <exec> 08└─No, the difference is much greater than the examples you suggested. Dr. Ron Paul campaigned on shutting down several cabinets under the president, like energy, education, EPA, etc. As in, ignore congress and just fire them because they don't have constitutional authority for their positions. He also...
[13:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:56] <exec> 08└─Read the start of sentence two: Considering the Pauls were both instrumental in the fight against SOPA and PIPA
[13:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:58] <exec> 08└─Understand the start of sentence two. Their objections to those bills had nothing to do with limiting copyright and everything to do with limiting government control of the internet.
[13:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 2734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:00] <exec> 08└─I don't care what the motives were. I merely pointed out that the assertion that the Rands were "copyright maximalists" was false just from a cursory reading of the article. And it's worth noting that the article says the Rands didn't merely support, but lead assaults on these significant bills. A...
[13:43:00] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 1441 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:01] <exec> 08└─Sigh...when are people gonna learn that "libertarian" is a codeword for "I'm against anything that impedes my generation of wealth by any means, no matter who it hurts". Since copyrights allow them to generate more wealth with minimal effort? Its 100% doubleplusgood. Go look up "Stefan Molyneux" on...
[13:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:03] <exec> 08└─Wow, Mr. Harry Feet, I was wrong. You must not be a paid Microsoft shill since MS would never have approved your message above. But, you have a really odd like of Microsoft-- even odder, an extreme like of Microsoft... I guess you are just weird.
[13:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:04] <exec> 08└─Why is liking MS that bad? I have made an *excellent* living from their software stack. They are douchebags. But douchebags that make me money. I am however, going to change stacks.
[13:43:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"douchebags that make me money" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:06] <exec> 08└─Word that are associated with the "will do anything for money" meme: mercenary; whore. That a company doesn't have a "won't do business with unrepentant convicted criminals" policy speaks volumes about that company. -- gewg_
[13:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"douchebags that make me money" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:08] <exec> 08└─OMG! GEWG AND HAIRY ARE ON THE SAME SIDE!!!!! AHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:09] <exec> 08└─Sigh...when are people gonna learn that "libertarian" is a codeword for "I'm against anything that impedes my generation of wealth by any means, no matter who it hurts".
[13:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:11] <exec> 08└─Congrats on using the No True Scotsman fallacy, even though pretty much every major self anointed libertarian going all the way back to Ayn Rand and her followers have been EXACTLY this. Care to throw any other fallacies our way? I can wallpaper the page with citations if you like, its really not ha...
[13:43:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:12] <exec> 08└─Congrats on using the No True Scotsman fallacy, even though pretty much every major self anointed libertarian going all the way back to Ayn Rand and her followers have been EXACTLY this.
[13:43:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:14] <exec> 08└─gracious. and furthermore lordy! just when i think i got you pegged you come out with this. wow. there might be hope for you yanks yet.
[13:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"copyright maximalist" - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:16] <exec> 08└─As much as I cannot fricking stand Hillary...if the current crop like Cruz, Paul, and Fiorina is the BEST that the right can do? I think everybody better get used to saying President Hillary because nobody is gonna vote for these uber rich blowing, poor stomping, trickle upon yahoos!
[13:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Serves Those Bottom-Feeders Right - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:17] <exec> 08└─Sometimes old people need to be more impressionable.
[13:43:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02Of the Paul clan - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 62 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:19] <exec> 08└─It seems like only Ru's the only one deserving of any respect.
[13:43:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:Of the Paul clan - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 83 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:21] <exec> 08└─People nowadays really are stupid enough to vote for someone with no record at all.
[13:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Of the Paul clan - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:22] <exec> 08└─Hillary has a lot of baggage. Who was the last president who actually had a record with the Federal Government? 1988 George H W Bush, maybe? Before that even? Hillary will certainly be in the primary, but don't count on her beating some unknown state governor. People nowadays really are stupid enoug...
[13:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Political content on S/N - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 1089 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:24] <exec> 08└─Hillary has a record as a warmonger. Anyone who likes the failing-empire-in-its-death-throes meme and the unaccountable-and-ever-more-militarized-police meme should love Hillary. She also has a record as a supporter of the bailouts of the too-big-to-jail bunch. Anyone who thinks a return to feudalis...
[13:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Of the Paul clan - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 1080 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:25] <exec> 08└─Yes, Hillary has a record, that is the point. Politicians with records don't often get elected president because it is so easy for the media to hang them with their own words. The president is the chief secretary of congress. His job is to see that the wishes of congress are carried out. So a person...
[13:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gary Johnson is a wimp - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:27] <exec> 08└─Gov. Sam Brownback of Kansas has already demonstrated how to use "free markets" and "trickle down" to destroy the economy of his state. At the national level, why go with the suspense that Johnson would bring? Just elect a proven performer and get it over with. -- gewg_
[13:43:28] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03JNCF [4317] 02Re:Of the Paul clan - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 37 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:29] <exec> 08└─Hillary vs. Rand who do you vote for?
[13:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Of the Paul clan - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:30] <exec> 08└─Go ahead, throw your vote away [youtube.com] </sarcasm>
[13:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Of the Paul clan - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:32] <exec> 08└─Go ahead, throw your vote away </sarcasm> Keep in mind that unless you live in a swing state a presidential vote is already thrown away. Might as well throw it away to someone you like...
[13:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Of the Paul clan - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:33] <exec> 08└─So, voting for a third party is considered throwing a vote away. But, voting in a state that has elected the same party for the last 50 years with a statistical impossiblity of affecting any change, isn't?
[13:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Of the Paul clan - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:35] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Casting an individual vote is already an idealistic gesture that doesn't do anything to affect change. Why should we be naively idealistic when deciding whether or not to vote, but then pragmatic and pessimistic when deciding how to vote? I'm not asking for strict rationality, only some sem...
[13:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Of the Paul clan - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:37] <exec> 08└─Some third party, almost at random.
[13:43:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Sulla [5173] 02Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 1619 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:38] <exec> 08└─While I am unsure about Rand, from the times I have looked up Ron's voting record he has always voted against all federal subsidies. From reading TFA I got the impression that the author thought this was not the case, so I am wondering if I am missing something. I do notice that Rand said he never s...
[13:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:40] <exec> 08└─Yes, because when there is a viable third party candidate you now get to pick from THREE people instead of TWO. Now you get to boast to everyone that you voted for the third guy, not necessarily because of his positions, but because he's NOT one of the other two, and only fools and tools would vote...
[13:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:41] <exec> 08└─> Yes, because when there is a viable third party candidate you now get to pick from THREE people instead of TWO. Wow you are a dick. The underlying assumption of your snark is that all parties are the same because their identity is the fact that they are a party rather than their actual platform an...
[13:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:43] <exec> 08└─I vote only for people I approve of, or no one at all. I'm not voting to vote against anyone, so that's a mere straw man on your part (which apparently gets you modded up). Second of all, there are more than three.
[13:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:45] <exec> 08└─Here I was referring to those running in the primaries, specifically those seeking the republican nomination. Of all of those seeking or thought to be seeking the republican nomination I would be most likely to support Rand Paul for the republican nomination. This does not necessarily mean I would s...
[13:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 1001 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:46] <exec> 08└─The last time there actually *was* one candidate that I actually approved of, even though she had no chance. The time before that there wasn't. I'm not sure I expect there to be one this next time. You rarely have somebody sane who will go to tremendous effort to accomplish little to nothing. As a r...
[13:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Previous 3rd-party candidate - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:48] <exec> 08└─The last time[,] there actually *was* one candidate that I actually approved of, even though she had no chance I'm wondering if that was Green Party candidate Jill Stein--the gal who, when she debated Mitt Romney in the race for governor, was described by The Boston Globe as "the only adult in the r...
[13:43:49] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02Re:Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 428 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:49] <exec> 08└─So far, it looks like Warren doesn't even want to run, even though lots of people are screaming for her to. It does look like Bernie Sanders may run, but there's no way he'll win, he's too extreme (as far as mainstream America is concerned). I'm pretty sure this race is going to wind up being betwee...
[13:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:51] <exec> 08└─Martin O'Malley [washingtonpost.com] seems to be as close to Warren as we are going to get. The GOP has already got their knives out for him, [washingtontimes.com] so that's a good sign.
[13:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 1387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:53] <exec> 08└─No, "Big Media" gives most of their coverage to who they think are viable candidates, because that is who is on the minds of the electorate. You don't think they should talk about Hillary? As of now she's polling very well with potential Democrat voters, something like 60 to 70% approval for her to...
[13:43:53] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] 02Re:Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 562 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:54] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately you are likely right. Personally I think both of those candidates offer more of the same from each party. The bland, your 3c titanium tax doesn't go too far enough [youtube.com] type of politicians that will just continue down the current road of erosion of rights, just different ones...
[13:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Federal Subsidies - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:56] <exec> 08└─Warren doesn't want to run now because if she won, she'd be president for eight years and then out of politics. If she doesn't run, she can be a force in the senate for a while pushing her agenda and gathering experience and support which will make her a better president in the future. Remember she'...
[13:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Don't they teach History any more? - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:57] <exec> 08└─John Quincy Adams (reputed by some as the smartest guy to ever be President) served as a Congressman after his time as Chief Executive. -- gewg_
[13:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02LaRouche/Paul 2016, FTW! - 06Rand Paul Censored by Youtube ContentID Copyright Enforcement System - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:59] <exec> 08└─As long as they never appear together, I think it's a can't lose combination!
[13:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Updated version - 06Campaigners Urge FTC to Investigate YouTube for Kids App - 982 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:01] <exec> 08└─Oh please, people collect stupid shit and show it off like its valuable...and now for the weather, water is wet Bill! Have people here never heard of "bronies"? Or ever known a woman that would act like a child when it came to whatever she collected? I had a drummer whose wife was EXACTLY like that...
[13:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:easy to use? - 06Campaigners Urge FTC to Investigate YouTube for Kids App - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:02] <exec> 08└─If you also want to make sure that comments are not available, send plus.googleapis.com to the black hole :)
[13:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:easy to use? - 06Campaigners Urge FTC to Investigate YouTube for Kids App - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:04] <exec> 08└─Privacy Badger and ABP on any Chromium based browser...you're welcome. I haven't seen an ad on any vid site in so long that when I have to use a mobile browser and see ads? It feels like going back to the dark ages.
[13:44:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] 02Re:easy to use? - 06Campaigners Urge FTC to Investigate YouTube for Kids App - 171 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:05] <exec> 08└─The comments are hosted on a separate server (plus.googleapis.com, it seems) and are easily blocked :) (At least something positive to come out of the Google Plus fiasco!)
[13:44:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:easy to use? - 06Campaigners Urge FTC to Investigate YouTube for Kids App - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:07] <exec> 08└─Well, you'll have to figure out how to prevent leading whitespace-eating before you can post ASCII Unicode art. :-Þ Oh, and trying to put your image into an editor, I notice that you also must have used a proportional font in your attempt. You clearly still have to learn a lot about Unicode art.
[13:44:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:easy to use? - 06Campaigners Urge FTC to Investigate YouTube for Kids App - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:09] <exec> 08└─Bob's head appears to be currently mounted atop a pike. I don't think Bob is doing much of anything at this point.
[13:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Who'd have thought - 06Campaigners Urge FTC to Investigate YouTube for Kids App - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:10] <exec> 08└─Adverts on a site run by the world's largest advertising company - never! Purely selfishly, as a European, I support US being free to be as much of a cess-pit of commercialism as possible. Don't educate your young and certainly don't feed them healthily. Why should I want any more competition in the...
[13:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:So meta - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:12] <exec> 08└─Better meta than beta.
[13:44:13] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02Re:Construction kit would be better... - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 383 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:14] <exec> 08└─Exactly; they should have several different versions of it. To make it easy to differentiate them on store shelves and for consumers to remember them, they should use different colors, calling them "Soylent Red", "Soylent Orange", "Soylent Yellow", and "Soylent Green". Soylent Green would be the mos...
[13:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Construction kit would be better... - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:15] <exec> 08└─Soylent Green would be the most expensive and tastiest of the bunch, though it would have some secret ingredient.
[13:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Construction kit would be better... - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:17] <exec> 08└─Humans are animals. Just because we commit gen(e)ocide on millions of other species so successfully does not make us less so... I was going to say more but the multiple levels of disappointment your post invoked left me unable to say more.
[13:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Construction kit would be better... - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:18] <exec> 08└─Are you sure you are not taking this too serious? Sticks and stones...
[13:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Construction kit would be better... - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:20] <exec> 08└─I am not taking it seriously, the comment was moronic. Just pointing out the truth of the matter. We are animals and we do tend to think we are "above it all" even though we really aren't as a brief glance at almost any internet forum, dating site, bar or sports event will show quite clearly...
[13:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Construction kit would be better... - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:22] <exec> 08└─We are animals and we do tend to think we are "above it all"
[13:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Construction kit would be better... - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:23] <exec> 08└─More serious: Actually, I was thinking about a more geeky solution: A couple of powder-boxes with different mixtures, a raspberry with a dosing-feeder and some sensors to e.g. measure your blood-suger and a web-interface to enter your weight, size, target-weight etc., and the dosing feeder mixes the...
[13:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03romlok [1241] (Score:2) 02Re:When would they ship to the rest of the world?? - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:25] <exec> 08└─You could try one of the European alternatives. I found a blog with a few posts toward the end of last year, detailing various alternatives: http://synectar.sk [synectar.sk] http://synectar.sk [synectar...
[13:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Taste - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:26] <exec> 08└─I'm sure someone is interested in how Soylent tastes; put plainly, it tastes like oatmeal water. Imagine watery plain flavored instant oatmeal, and you won't be too far off, although you can adjust the amount of water to taste. As a culinary ingredient, you can treat it as oatmeal: mix in fruits, ho...
[13:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ghost [4467] (Score:1) 02Re:Taste - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:28] <exec> 08└─I can turn worthless oatmeal into delicious cookies. Can I turn worthless soylent into delicious cookies?
[13:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03romlok [1241] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Taste - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:30] <exec> 08└─Apparently yes, yes you can [soylent.me].
[13:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Taste - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:31] <exec> 08└─Yeah but soylent is expensive as living hell.
[13:44:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03robpow [1575] (Score:1) 02Re:Taste - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:33] <exec> 08└─This guy ate only Soylent for a month: http://www.theverge.com [theverge.com]
[13:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Taste - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:35] <exec> 08└─> I'm sure someone is interested in how Soylent tastes; put plainly, it tastes like oatmeal water. I've only ever had the 1.3 version, but I disagree. To me it tastes like a vanilla protein shake. Mildly sweet, vanilla with a little bit of viscosity. I dump in a ton of cinnamon and its practically a...
[13:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Taste - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:36] <exec> 08└─1.4 supposedly reduces taste, as indicated by the summary. 1.4 also is less "silty".
[13:44:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Taste - 06Soylent 1.4 Formula Changes Taste, Ditches Oils, Swizzles Nutrients - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:38] <exec> 08└─So it's the slop from The Matrix, essentially?
[13:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:pipelined computing - 06Simulating Neuromorphic Supercomputing Designs - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:39] <exec> 08└─> pipelines composed of smaller pipelines Is it though? Unless you're considering a pipeline to be the internal processes of a single neuron, that seems like a gross oversimplification. As I understand it a computing pipeline is typically something almost entirely sequential and self-contained with...
[13:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:pipelined computing - 06Simulating Neuromorphic Supercomputing Designs - 994 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:41] <exec> 08└─It gets even harder when simulating a network. The computer is doing serial operations over the parallel network. Each neuron is processed sequentially. Should a neuron later in the list be able to see the output from a neuron earlier in the list? or should a later neuron only see the outputs from t...
[13:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oxymoron - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:43] <exec> 08└─Your statement applies even more-so to the NSA, but you'll get mod-bombed to Hell if you even suggest that. All issues are only black-and-white on this site.
[13:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Oxymoron - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:44] <exec> 08└─I'm shocked that Chrome got to 50%. It must have been banner ads for the browser on Google homepages that did it.
[13:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Oxymoron - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:46] <exec> 08└─And posting that reminded me I haven't checked if Flash on my work machine needs an update yet this week. Yup. Vulnerable. Again.
[13:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Oxymoron - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:48] <exec> 08└─According to Statcounter (the very source also Wikipedia cites), IE is now at 12.29%, while Firefox is at 11.68%. While the IE number is in fact larger, the difference is so small that I'm not even sure that it isn't inside the (not given) error bar.
[13:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Oxymoron - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:49] <exec> 08└─Where did I say that it does?
[13:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Oxymoron - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:51] <exec> 08└─Where did I say that it does?
[13:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oxymoron - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:52] <exec> 08└─Why the hell would you listen to anything Microsoft says about trust?
[13:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Oxymoron - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:54] <exec> 08└─Because even a broken clock will be right twice a day?
[13:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oxymoron - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 1256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:56] <exec> 08└─Because on Windows Chrome uses Microsoft's certificate infrastructure (that's why I use Firefox :) ). And the way Microsoft's cert stuff works is even if a CA's cert is not in any cert store, if it's signed by a good enough existing cert in the cert store, it will be added to the cert store. So you...
[13:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:When do we get the obvious solution? - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:57] <exec> 08└─CAs should only be able to issue certificates in their domains. So CNNIC should never have been able to issue certificates outside of .cn
[13:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:When do we get the obvious solution? - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:59] <exec> 08└─Granted, I'm no expert in the area, but when you say "Certificates don't even have a notion of a domain", that doesn't make sense to me. If I visit my private homepage, it happens to be on a server that has a certificate installed for a company in the .ch domain. Access my homepage with https, Apach...
[13:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:When do we get the obvious solution? - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 990 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:01] <exec> 08└─We need to get over the idea that these CAs can be trusted anymore than any other website because as we have seen over the past year? Their security is just as lax if not more so than your average shopping web site. While we are at it we need to get the major browsers not to shit themselves in fear...
[13:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't get the acronym - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:02] <exec> 08└─How does "China Internet Network Information Centre" become "CNNIC"? Shouldn't it be "CINIC"? Or am I believing too easily that China is motivated purely by self-interest rather than acting for honorable or unselfish reasons.
[13:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't get the acronym - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:04] <exec> 08└─Acronyms do not always reflect their English translations. Consider CCCP.
[13:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't get the acronym - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:05] <exec> 08└─Of course in Chinese the very concept of an acronym doesn't make sense since each Chinese symbol is already a complete word.
[13:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't get the acronym - 06Mozilla Joins Google Shunning China's Root Certificate Authority - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:07] <exec> 08└─How does "China Internet Network Information Centre" become "CNNIC"? Shouldn't it be "CINIC"? Or am I believing too easily that China is motivated purely by self-interest rather than acting for honorable or unselfish reasons.
[13:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Default settings - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:09] <exec> 08└─2) Linux - yup; I've seen servers take literally ages to startup after a crash.
[13:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Default settings - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:10] <exec> 08└─It's called a file system check. Your problem is purely related to administration problems.
[13:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's systemd when you need it - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:12] <exec> 08└─I doubt the operator asked it to crash and reboot before the updates started. Some windows updates happen during bootup and shutdown which prevents the computer from being usable. You don't always know when that is going to happen either. You could have installed updates the night before and shut th...
[13:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's systemd when you need it - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:14] <exec> 08└─Would a "whoosh" be Ok with you?
[13:45:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Kell [292] 02Re:Where's systemd when you need it - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 75 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:15] <exec> 08└─Sounds like that's what you get when you combine Touché and Disagree mods.
[13:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's systemd when you need it - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:17] <exec> 08└─So we'll have a scoreboard software directly in systemd sometime soon? That would be cool!
[13:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where's systemd when you need it - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:18] <exec> 08└─No such thing as sudo hell. Unlike windows with dll hell, update hell, BSOD hell, graphics hell, etc, etc, etc. In the time it takes windows to update, or even defrag, I can do an initial install of Ubuntu or any other flavor of Linux, and have it up and running with my saved ~ directory copied over...
[13:45:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 2402 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:20] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, the people who specify these products also have the power to lay people like us off if we don't go along with it. I did not go along with it, and I am paying the price. Incidentally, the process "wuauserv" is responsible for the windows updating. Terminate it via performance monitor a...
[13:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:22] <exec> 08└─Only counterfeit FTDI chips are "bricked". Also that update has been rolled-back and no more chips (counterfeit or not) will be bricked.
[13:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:23] <exec> 08└─But trust in Microsoft, FTDI and automatic updates were bricked permanently.
[13:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 3224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:25] <exec> 08└─True.. maybe Microsoft and FTDI wised up and decided nuking their customer's stuff isn't really the brightest way to enforce digital "rights". But someone *did* go through all the effort to make chip-nuking software and release it. By now, every script kiddie and hacker has a copy of it, disassemble...
[13:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:26] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, the people who specify these products also have the power to lay people like us off if we don't go along with it.
[13:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:28] <exec> 08└─That is what I had to do after that. I had already resisted authority. I could not count on them for any sort of reference. Hiring managers do not take kindly to anyone who questions authority.
[13:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:30] <exec> 08└─What were your hugest obstacles?
[13:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 1393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:31] <exec> 08└─My biggest obstacle is very few people know what I do and have seen my work. The work I did before was not public. However, I did get in a pissing match with a supervisor. He won. I intend to change this shortly, as I have been designing a line of products for release as open-source. The main proc...
[13:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:33] <exec> 08└─I mean obstacles in getting your business going ;) Fighting people in a position of power inside a company is a rigged playing field.
[13:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 2576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:35] <exec> 08└─I would say primarily operating capital. I have to do everything myself, and there are a lot of things I have very little experience in. Enormous amounts of time get wasted... #1 culprit being forms governments require in order to open shop. I have avoided the issue so far by going under the radar...
[13:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Microsoft carma is a delay! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:36] <exec> 08└─Move to another country where regulations are more business friendly?
[13:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Professional team in competition - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 997 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:38] <exec> 08└─The flip-cards solve 1 element of the problem but there is another problem to be dealt with. Going back many years to when The Wide World of Sports was a thing (and when I actually paid any attention to sports), I learned that there is a game played by Scots with big sticks (now, there's a mental im...
[13:45:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02Re:Sounds like tech ignorance -not at all! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 444 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:39] <exec> 08└─When windows is installing the updates from boot, it prevents anything else from happening until the updates are finished. Often, one update will trigger a re-boot, which then triggers another update.. With one corporate laptop, I spent over three hours stuck in this cycle after the auto-updater had...
[13:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:1) 02Re:Sounds like tech ignorance -not at all! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:41] <exec> 08└─Good point, but at the same time, if I get a laptop of unknown history (such as it was issued by work or whatever), I always boot it up and let it run for a while before trying to use it in a critical situation like a presentation or a meeting, for exactly the reason that updates can happen at any t...
[13:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Sounds like tech ignorance -not at all! - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:43] <exec> 08└─I always boot it up and let it run for a while before trying to use it in a critical situation
[13:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Lengthy power outage in Montreal - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 1249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:44] <exec> 08└─It *was* scary during the Montreal area ice storm in the late 90's. Only locations with emergency generators were functioning. Our house became uninhabitable, because although the furnace burned oil, and there was lots of it in the tank, the burner was, for some reason, powered by electricity, and w...
[13:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Lengthy power outage in Montreal - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 2702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:46] <exec> 08└─Your experience is exactly what I am trying to avoid. I am in Southern California. Earthquake territory. I know we are going to pay our dues one day just as New Orleans paid the price to be in the middle of Hurricane Alley. And I saw how much the government "helped" them. ( the "helped" is in quote...
[13:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Lengthy power outage in Montreal - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:48] <exec> 08└─Money enables you to buy your way out. Catastrophes disables you from anything unless it's at your disposal, right here, right now. Thus rich people may loose touch with the ground. Which is kind of interesting because in that situation it's so cheap to fix a backup for most things.
[13:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Lengthy power outage in Montreal - 06German Basketball Team Relegated to Lower Division Due to Untimely Windows Updates - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:49] <exec> 08└─the burner was, for some reason, powered by electricity, and without electricity it was unable to burn the oil.
[13:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Not so fast... - 06Google Wants to Keep you Online All the Time - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:51] <exec> 08└─But Google doesn't charge by the impression. They only charge by the click.
[13:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03dboz87 [1285] (Score:1) 02Re:Target Demographic? - 06Google Wants to Keep you Online All the Time - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:52] <exec> 08└─So, I guess Iraq never invaded Kuwait?
[13:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03goody [2135] (Score:2) 02Re:Target Demographic? - 06Google Wants to Keep you Online All the Time - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:54] <exec> 08└─Would you switch your phone carrier for a once-a-year vacation so you could save money on data roaming? I certainly wouldn't, especially for one in the US that is an MVNO to boot. Paid annual leave still doesn't pay for international travel or make you a frequent world travel. It still takes some de...
[13:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Target Demographic? - 06Google Wants to Keep you Online All the Time - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:56] <exec> 08└─It's not about the money for data roaming, it's about the time available to travel as an international tourist while being sure the everyday bills at home still get paid. I might be wrong but, searching for an answer as to why the GP didn't think the once-a-year-holidaty-tourists are a significant t...
[13:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03goody [2135] (Score:2) 02Re:Target Demographic? - 06Google Wants to Keep you Online All the Time - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:57] <exec> 08└─I get 15 paid days off a year, plus holidays. I could easily go to Europe in that amount of time. I don't. Cost is one factor, but some of it is there's just plenty to do here in the US on vacation and if I'm going out of the states I'd just as well go to Canada. I can use Verizon or AT&T in Canada...
[13:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Target Demographic? - 06Google Wants to Keep you Online All the Time - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:59] <exec> 08└─but I can guarantee you anyone here in the US who has the means to "travel across the US, the UK, Italy, Hong Hong, and Sri Lanka" as the article mentions is not going to be interested [...]
[13:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Roaming charges...I don' pay no stinking roamin - 06Google Wants to Keep you Online All the Time - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:01] <exec> 08└─While it's not worse, I wouldn't go as far as saying that it's better.
[13:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Roaming charges...I don' pay no stinking roamin - 06Google Wants to Keep you Online All the Time - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:02] <exec> 08└─And what makes anyone think that Verzion or ATT do not track your calls and what you look at? Really now, Google seems to me a lot better organization to trust than any telco or cable outfit.
[13:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I work far more productively when offline - 06Google Wants to Keep you Online All the Time - 1392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:04] <exec> 08└─Consider that I'm trolling Soylent as I write this. That I can't really use iDevices when offline is a primary reason that I don't use them other than for playing music that I ripped from CDs that I purchased at a store. I regard as a total clusterfuck that I was unable to get online with my Maveric...
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