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[12:51:59] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
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[12:53:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02than we appear - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:36] <exec> 08└─Does this mean that we, as a species, are less social than we think?
[12:53:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And if you are extremely introverted ... - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:37] <exec> 08└─And if you are extremely introverted you have no idea how introverted or extroverted people are on average, simply because you lack sufficient statistics.
[12:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And if you are extremely introverted ... - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:40] <exec> 08└─This. I have four people other than myself I socialize with and two are my parents and one is my wife. I still don't count my kids. All my knowledge about extroversion comes from movies about American tweenagers.
[12:53:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Flamebait title - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:47] <exec> 08└─Flamebait title not referenced/substantiated anywhere in the summary/article.
[12:53:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Flamebait title - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:49] <exec> 08└─Protip: if you don't want crap summaries/articles, ignore anything submitted by _gewg.
[12:53:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03soylentsandor [309] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Flamebait title - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:51] <exec> 08└─The bit after the comma (which I suppose you consider to be the offending part) was taken literally from TFA.
[12:53:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Flamebait title - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:52] <exec> 08└─Did you try reading the summary? With your eyes? Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) confirmed on Thursday [...] that nearly all fuel [...] has melted and fallen into the containment building.
[12:53:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2, Troll) 02PHB and MBA free zone plz? ;) - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:54] <exec> 08└─Nuclear power is great as long as no pointy haired bosses or bean counters are involved in any way..
[12:53:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:PHB and MBA free zone plz? ;) - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:56] <exec> 08└─This is true in all forms of human activity, not just nuclear power
[12:54:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02SAAS? - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:00] <exec> 08└─will they stop using google.com, etc.?
[12:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SAAS? - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:02] <exec> 08└─But How? GOogle is the Intenret.
[12:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02has RMS moved to India yet? - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:04] <exec> 08└─As soon as he emigrates, he can renounce his American citizenship, for great justice.
[12:54:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02The original submission had 2 sections - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:05] <exec> 08└─As it appeared in the queue, [soylentnews.org] the 1st part of the summary (and the headline) mentioned that the policy is a mandate. The 2nd part was purposely separated by me and mentioned that other folks reporting the story didn't mention the loosie-goosie verbiage of the directive. Apparently,...
[12:54:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Munged link - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:07] <exec> 08└─http://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=6750#submit [soylentnews.org] -- gewg_
[12:54:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Munged link - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:09] <exec> 08└─Interestingly, the original link worked just well (however it might stop to work for any new code version if the parsing code gets more strict)
[12:54:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The original submission had 2 sections - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:10] <exec> 08└─So you object to the more accurate headline and the removal of your inflammatory comment. Cry us a river.
[12:54:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2, Offtopic) 02I live in California - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:15] <exec> 08└─Lived here since the 60s. Went through the "if it's brown flush it down, if it's yellow let it mellow" crap. (If it's yellow flush it down, else cleaning your toilet is much harder) Installed low flush toilets, low flow shower heads 30 years ago. Ripped out my backyard and paved it 20 years ago, and...
[12:54:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:I live in California - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:17] <exec> 08└─I have been lied to so many times by my own government I really have a hard time believing *anything* they say, albeit they did have me convinced hook, line, and sinker on the "energy crisis". I misinvested a lot of resources because I took the words of the President of the United States of America...
[12:54:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I live in California - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:19] <exec> 08└─I misinvested a lot of resources because I took the words of the President of the United States of America seriously.
[12:54:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:I live in California - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:20] <exec> 08└─And these guys re-invented structured sampling. Now they are trying to tell us they know what we think after sampling 12000 self selected individuals. Meanwhile 80% of the people they contacted wouldn't give the the time of day.
[12:54:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:I live in California - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:22] <exec> 08└─Do you remember the Global Cooling crisis? Are we not in an ice age now? Maybe I should go outside some time and see for myself... if not for that self-radicalising ISIS Ebola, eh?
[12:54:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Don't Care - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:24] <exec> 08└─Lowar my gass pryces, Bama! I no ya gots a weerd trik to cut my morgage paymunts too! I wanna reeeefinance!
[12:54:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:25] <exec> 08└─FTFY Reality: "Can I eat or shoot climate change?" No. "I'm not interested."
[12:54:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:27] <exec> 08└─"Can I eat or fuck climate change?" No. *Blank stare*
[12:54:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ridonkulus - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:29] <exec> 08└─Can't get the science right, so they turn to market study.
[12:54:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:3, Informative) 02Denial & the effects of PR spin - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 989 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:30] <exec> 08└─One big eye opener for me was the differences between those who think global warming will harm them personally (34%) and global warming will harm people in the US (51%). Uh huh. "I'll be all right, but Joe next door is screwed!" That's some serious self-denial right there; let me know when you figur...
[12:54:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Denial & the effects of PR spin - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:32] <exec> 08└─That's some serious self-denial right there; let me know when you figure out how absurb that notion is and that we're all in this together, for whatever "this" turns out to be.
[12:54:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Interesting) 02they might get more interesting results... - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:33] <exec> 08└─... if they added the dimensions of age, level/field of education, field of work. in the end, it doesn't matter what billy the idiot boy thinks because the laws of physics dont give a damn.
[12:54:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02If only there were another way - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:35] <exec> 08└─What if Software licences could be Free?
[12:54:36] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03sigma [1225] 02Re:If only there were another way - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:37] <exec> 08└─What if Software licences could be Free?
[12:54:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:4, Interesting) 02They could not hit a better target... - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 1480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:38] <exec> 08└─Politicians are the ones who voted all this copyright crap into law. Now, its going to come back to get them. Just as it is gets the rest of us. Paralyzing us with compliance to whatever someone else demands. No different than the back doors mandated into operating systems can be used by anybody tha...
[12:54:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:They could not hit a better target... - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:40] <exec> 08└─Just as it is gets the rest of us.
[12:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They could not hit a better target... - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:42] <exec> 08└─Not getting you? If you live in one of said councils, where do you think the money is coming from? It's not like English villages have their own Federal Reserves to print more worthless paper when they need it.
[12:54:42] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03davester666 [155] 02Re:They could not hit a better target... - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 312 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:43] <exec> 08└─"come back to get them"? how? it's not like they have to pay for the software and/or fines out of their own pocket. and you aren't going to vote them out of office for bungling this. instead, everyone in the UK will have to pay an additional pound so Microsoft and Oracle can make their numbers for t...
[12:54:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:They could not hit a better target... - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:45] <exec> 08└─Add to that, the local councillors are not the ones that voted for copyright laws. These things are handled at a national / EU level.
[12:54:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02i'm all for it! - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:47] <exec> 08└─anything that raises the price of their software is fine by me. it's just one more reason for people to move to libre software.
[12:54:47] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Whoever [4524] 02Re:i'm all for it! - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 127 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:48] <exec> 08└─anything that raises the price of their software is fine by me. it's just one more reason for people to move to libre software.
[12:54:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Foss For the Win - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 757 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:50] <exec> 08└─With those decreasing sales triggering desperate acts against government, you have to wonder how many of these governments will just pull the plug and jump to LibreOffice, and any one of a half dozen database engines. When the BSA (which is largely Microsoft in disguise) comes calling, having origin...
[12:54:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That story is still in the queue - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:52] <exec> 08└─It will be on the front page in just a bit. Title as submitted: Government of India Adopts FOSS-Only Policy The wording of the "mandate" is a bit squishy, but they already have 2 states that have been doing it for a while and those folks can show them all how it's done if they can't figure it out fo...
[12:54:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:That story is still in the queue - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:54] <exec> 08└─They graduate enough engineers every year to eventually figure it out. And the more of them it takes, the longer we get to keep our jobs.
[12:54:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Foss For the Win - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:56] <exec> 08└─It's funny how the 'official' TCO calculations never seem to include the cost of compliance assurance or the cost of storing all those bits of paper and ultimately being audited. Even if you are in full compliance (meaning the BSA commandos can't find any excuse to bill you), the cost of an audit is...
[12:54:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Dust and water at site perhaps is a cancerogen? - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:58] <exec> 08└─I wonder how much the cancer probability goes up by visiting these sites? I suspect local water and dust may be the largest culprits. Perhaps the perfect opportunity to sell a health insurance? :P
[12:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Dust and water at site perhaps is a cancerogen? - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:00] <exec> 08└─Not much from what I read. You will get more radiation on the flight down there.
[12:55:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Dust and water at site perhaps is a cancerogen? - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:01] <exec> 08└─If you ingest or drink radioactive particles that's way worse than to be exposed externally.
[12:55:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Plutonium causes bone necrosis - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:04] <exec> 08└─It is chemically similar to calcium. If you ingest it, inhale it, get it into your eyes it will eventually get into your bones, then irradiate your bones. I think Uranium gets into your fat but I am unclear. Aside from their radioactivity, many heavy metals are also chemically toxic. I strongly susp...
[12:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Plutonium causes bone necrosis - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:05] <exec> 08└─How did you get exposed to Mercury vapor? especially as a kid.
[12:55:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Plutonium causes bone necrosis - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:07] <exec> 08└─Generally amalgam dental fillings, or perhaps playing with Mercury (not uncommon when I was a kid).
[12:55:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Indeed: Playing with Mercury - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 1434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:09] <exec> 08└─My first really serious career choice was to be a Chemist - that is, to do Chemistry research as a University Professor. I was quite serious about this. My father encouraged it as he had been a chemist at one time. Though my mother had no clue about Chemistry, she encouraged it as her father was a s...
[12:55:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Indeed: Playing with Mercury - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:10] <exec> 08└─Most outward presentations involve symptoms you don't mention [wikipedia.org], and take significant exposure over a long period. Unless you ingested quite a bit of it, or handled it for a long period of time, I doubt it had any affect on you. It is absorbed through the skin, but this takes prolonged...
[12:55:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03SacredSalt [2772] (Score:1) 02Re:Plutonium causes bone necrosis - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:12] <exec> 08└─Mercury was also used in a LOT of interior and exterior paints. I find it pretty obnoxious that this was used in interior paints, and no real thought was given to it. Apparently it had some sort of stabilization property for the paint.
[12:55:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Plutonium causes bone necrosis - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:14] <exec> 08└─Guess it's the "NEW SHINY THING" that hit a whole society and subsequent careless use. We are probably doing the same mistake with nano particles, epoxi and reinforcement materials for polymer products.
[12:55:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plutonium causes bone necrosis - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:15] <exec> 08└─neurological damage as a result of inhaling mercury vapor when I was a kid.
[12:55:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Physics X - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 938 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:17] <exec> 08└─One hour each wednesday at 5:00 PM. You could ask any question you wanted - not just physics - provided it was purely conceptual and did not require him to work out any mathematics. I understood quantum mechanics well enough to get good grades on my homework but regarded it as delusional because I w...
[12:55:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Physics X - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:19] <exec> 08└─When examined closely enough, the universe can be downright indecisive.
[12:55:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plutonium causes bone necrosis - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:20] <exec> 08└─> I strongly suspect that I myself have neurological damage as a result of inhaling mercury vapor when I was a kid. To be honest, we all suspected it too, but didn't want to say anything.
[12:55:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03SacredSalt [2772] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Dust and water at site perhaps is a cancerogen? - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 1386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:22] <exec> 08└─Hot particles are always the bigger problem. My main issue with nuclear power is not that it operates on the edge of a serious event continuously -- its that there are always leaks and always water going where you don't want it. Its just not possible to build a vessel to hold it under the heat and o...
[12:55:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02Re:Dust and water at site perhaps is a cancerogen? - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:24] <exec> 08└─Just visiting the site incurs a trivially small exposure, but you would not want to pick up any of the rocks and keep them (and the authorities work to ensure you don't). Globs of rock melted into glass, called trinitite, were once collected and ground into jewelry...not a good idea.
[12:55:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Dust and water at site perhaps is a cancerogen? - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:25] <exec> 08└─> Just visiting the site incurs a trivially small exposure Ha! Now I have an excuse for not RTFA!
[12:55:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Dust and water at site perhaps is a cancerogen? - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:27] <exec> 08└─Is this Trinitite so radioactive, it can't even sit in a cabinet without being a hazard? I calculate a stone of the dimensions 5 x 2 x 2 cm would have an activity of 3180 Bq. It should be below health limits? Making jewelry of these materials seems however like challenging the destiny. (density of G...
[12:55:28] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] 02"Just went to bed and never woke up"? - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 464 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:28] <exec> 08└─I am skeptical that happened to anyone as a result of the Trinity Test. I don't doubt that lots of them got cancer, but cancer is general very slow to grow. Consider that Richard Feynman looked directly at the blast - without welder's goggles. He taught me at Caltech in the early eighties. While he...
[12:55:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:"Just went to bed and never woke up"? - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:30] <exec> 08└─No one died during or shortly after these bomb tests. Thirty years on, cancer rated were higher. It was the known and expected affect of low(-ish) level radiation. I think that line was thrown in by the journalist, (Tara Melton) just because she was covering the Downwinders. The Downwinder piece is...
[12:55:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ban Nuclear Forever! - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:32] <exec> 08└─Solar Power everywhere! No nuclear, not on my planet! Outsource all nuclear power to the Sun instead!
[12:55:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Shiva! - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:33] <exec> 08└─"We have become death, destroyer of worlds" Necrophilia! It's not just for breakfast any more!
[12:55:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02idiots - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:35] <exec> 08└─radiation inside you is badder then from oitside. radiation also damages your potential offspring... for a long time. if you get "naturally" irradiated my airplane flight you also interact with corresponding tacbyons thus it is bad but not as bad as being artificially irradiated with missing tachyon...
[12:55:36] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03fishybell [3156] 02This post - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 49 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:37] <exec> 08└─This post has REDACTED been subject to a warrant.
[12:55:37] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Subsentient [1111] 02Are you surprised? - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 216 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:38] <exec> 08└─It should have been expected honestly. You were using the letter of the law to defeat the spirit, a spirit I don't like, but nonetheless that's what it was. It's a shame this happened but not at all surprising to me.
[12:55:39] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:Are you surprised? - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 69 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:41] <exec> 08└─In many ways, Australia is ha far more draconian country than the US.
[12:55:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Are you surprised? - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:42] <exec> 08└─Democracy is when the elected do what electors want. Now somebody will tell me that the average elector is concerned with warrant canaries, right?
[12:55:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are you surprised? - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:44] <exec> 08└─Maybe, but the US Gov has greater reach and influence than the Australian Gov. The Australian Gov lacks the power to stop some Bolivian ambassador's plane from entering France, Portugal etc. http://www.cnn.com [cnn.com] I wonder though if the Aus...
[12:55:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Are you surprised? - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:46] <exec> 08└─True, but then that tends to be a large purpose of the law - otherwise there wouldn't be nearly as many loopholes for the wealthy to exploit. It's only seen as a problem when the little guys manage to start exploiting them.
[12:55:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Are you surprised? - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:47] <exec> 08└─Do the wealthy routinely reveal the existence of a secret warrant?
[12:55:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Are you surprised? - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:49] <exec> 08└─Wrong question. It should be "Do the wealthy routinely try to ensure that they'll be informed of any secret warrants against them"
[12:55:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Are you surprised? - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:50] <exec> 08└─Or perhaps "Will the 0,1% at the top ensure they get know about anything that may dislodge their power?".
[12:55:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:4, Insightful) 02I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:53] <exec> 08└─I dream of a place where a spy agency would knock at the door of a business with a warrant signed by a judge, and request the cooperation of the good citizens who work there in apprehending the specific named alleged criminal for the greater good of society. Silly, ain't it?
[12:55:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:55] <exec> 08└─I hope you realize cops can get blank warrants presigned by a judge.
[12:55:55] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 82 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:56] <exec> 08└─The AC says: I hope you realize cops can get blank warrants presigned by a judge.
[12:55:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:58] <exec> 08└─"Some have been hounded from office for doing so." Have any been removed from office, prosecuted and been put in jail?
[12:55:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:59] <exec> 08└─Don't know how it works in the US, but isn't "exigent circumstance [wikipedia.org]" abused like in the rest of the world?
[12:56:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:02] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah, well, I've "repaired" some government PCs and seen the blank warrants ready for cops to print out as many as they want, pre-signed, some even with boilerplate arrest language like, "When I approached the vehicle I smelled the presence of alcohol", just to be sure the cop doesn't forget to i...
[12:56:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:03] <exec> 08└─I dream of a place where a spy agency would knock at the door of a business with a warrant signed by a judge, and request the cooperation of the good citizens who work there in apprehending the specific named alleged criminal for the greater good of society.
[12:56:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:05] <exec> 08└─You do realize that there are vast regions on this planet where there is no access to internet connections and even hi-resolution satellite cannot track one individual.
[12:56:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:07] <exec> 08└─In my country the police should be feared more than the terrorists (they kill and "kidnap" more). And many of the seeds of terrorism were sown by the religious teachers and organizations that the Gov has approved.
[12:56:08] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Fluffeh [954] 02The "unusual approach" was interesting: - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 703 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:08] <exec> 08└─In case you were wondering what the "unusual approach" was: Speaking to Sky News, Australia's Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull said that there were "always ways for people to get around things." As The Guardian reported, Turnbull went on to list a few ways to dodge the new law: "If... I comm...
[12:56:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:The "unusual approach" was interesting: - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:10] <exec> 08└─So the man lies publicly as well? Who woulda thunk it!? He only names what he already has penetrated.
[12:56:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:The "unusual approach" was interesting: - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:12] <exec> 08└─He says he uses these apsps himself.. http://www.abc.net.au [abc.net.au]
[12:56:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02Re:The "unusual approach" was interesting: - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:13] <exec> 08└─How long will it take the other "5 Eyes" countries to come with similar legislation and ban warrant canaries ? It seems to be canaries all the way down ...
[12:56:14] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03gman003 [4155] 02Time to go up another meta level - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 774 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:15] <exec> 08└─"As of April 6th, 2015, we have received no warrants for user information, or orders to insert a backdoor or other data-gathering system. As of April 6th, 2015, we have received no warrants for information subject to a gag order. As of April 6th, 2015, we have received no court orders to lie to you...
[12:56:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Time to go up another meta level - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:17] <exec> 08└─+1 +1 +1
[12:56:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjwt [2826] (Score:1) 02Re:Time to go up another meta level - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:18] <exec> 08└─Not sure if you read, but thats the point, posts like that are now illegal, each with a 2 year jail sentence.
[12:56:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Filter error: Please enter a Subject. - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:20] <exec> 08└─So, having all the way down through the SN summary that was copy/pasted from a Boing Boing article that was copy/pasted from the origial Ars Technica article, I was still not able to fully understand this. Is the act of publishing the canary illegal, or is it the failure to continue publishing the c...
[12:56:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re: Filter error: Please enter a Subject. - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:21] <exec> 08└─That was going to be my next point: host your service in a US Red state, and claim that your religion forbids you from acting deceptively, therefore allowing you to ignore the gag orders.
[12:56:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re: Filter error: Please enter a Subject. - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:23] <exec> 08└─The gag order probably applies to the person. And if they are in Australia then the law applies and its teeth.
[12:56:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: Filter error: Please enter a Subject. - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:25] <exec> 08└─"The .au government is infringing on free speech" If everyone started posting that they haven't received any warrants from the government then the government would have to go after everyone and maybe put everyone in jail or fine them. Good luck with that. "The .au government is attacking religion or...
[12:56:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Guilty if you do, and guilty if you don't - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:26] <exec> 08└─It does seem like it will be an offence to do something, but also an offence not to do something too. For example, if I discover that upon receipt of a government order that my site is no longer commercially viable, do I have to continue to maintain that site (ad infinitum?) in order not to give any...
[12:56:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Guilty if you do, and guilty if you don't - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:28] <exec> 08└─I would answer you, but I can be fired for doing so.
[12:56:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:30] <exec> 08└─What are the potential advantages of this over conventional batteries?
[12:56:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:32] <exec> 08└─From the summary: That, the university claims, beats a thin-film lithium battery on a pound-for-pound (or rather gram-for-gram) basis.
[12:56:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Re:is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:34] <exec> 08└─So an incremental improvement? Or would it represent a substantial improvement yielding a number of new applications? Would this be better at solar of solar energy? Or is this simply, cheaper, lighter, Tesla is very happy because now you can put more battery in the same vehicle?
[12:56:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:35] <exec> 08└─The other thing about batteries is that they're not good at charging or discharging quickly. If you put a capacitor between the motor and regular batteries in an electric car, the regular batteries will last longer. In theory, if these were the batteries in an electric car, you could charge them ver...
[12:56:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:38] <exec> 08└─> which requires large wires and/or another set of capacitors at the charging station I suspect the wires from the station to the car would have to be bigger than fire-hoses if you wanted to charge at the same speed of filling a tank of gass.
[12:56:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:2) 02Re:is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:39] <exec> 08└─So put them under the road at traffic lights and stop signs. You wouldn't need to fully charge at any single red light, but over the course of a journey, many cars could be topped off.
[12:56:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 1204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:41] <exec> 08└─Worth pointing out is from a fire safety standpoint only an idiot would start a pump and walk away, so its important to pump a couple gallons/min while the owner stands there in the cold or 100F+ weather. However, the standard for electrical charging is pretty safety focused with microcontroller mon...
[12:56:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 885 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:43] <exec> 08└─1) Extremely fast charging not limited by internal resistance (and thus heat generation). 2) Insensitivity to temperature. 3) Insensitivity to deep discharge. 4) Extremely long life span since no chemical reactions take place which would erode an electrode or consume/pollute an electrolyte. In short...
[12:56:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:44] <exec> 08└─Extremely fast charging not limited by internal resistance (and thus heat generation).
[12:56:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03JJ [5043] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Energy from braking Re:is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:47] <exec> 08└─From what an Engineer who's worked on electric cars told me... Super Capacitors are required to store the energy from braking as regular batteries can't charge fast enough. Super caps act as a buffer between the braking and the batteries - which are usually better for long term storage - but maybe n...
[12:56:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02positive progress - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:48] <exec> 08└─the important question is, can the manufacturing be scaled up to actually replace (some) batteries? either way, it's good to see this kind of positive progress in energy storage tech because we are killing ourselves with coal and oil.
[12:56:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:positive progress - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:51] <exec> 08└─Another question is the safety factor of large capacitors. LiPoly batteries are dangerous enough all by themselves, because the high current capability. But Capacitors can usually dump their entire charge in a split second.
[12:56:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:positive progress - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:53] <exec> 08└─So what happens if a fully charged capacitor with 306 MJ is smashed or crushed? (Capacitor energy in joule = 1/2 * (Capacitance [F]) * (Voltage [V])^2) For a comparison A Tesla Model S Review [autoevolution.com] specify the battery to 2.450 x 2.440 x 0.102 meters = 0.6098 m³. Tesla Model S [roperld...
[12:56:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Re:positive progress - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:55] <exec> 08└─it's good to see this kind of positive progress in energy storage tech because we are killing ourselves with coal and oil
[12:56:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:positive progress - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:57] <exec> 08└─Energy is still needed to charge the capacitors. Also, as someone else pointed out, the safety issue is a potentially good point. What voltage will these capacitors put out and will there be added internal resistance to limit the current?
[12:56:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pretty cool - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:59] <exec> 08└─What are the trade offs? Lead acid are fairly recyclable. What is the recycle ability? What is the decay on the tail end? What is the charge/discharge rates? Being a capacitor what is the leakage rate? What is the charge rate like? This sounds like a really great tool to replace some use cases of cu...
[12:57:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Awesome for Obama! - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:01] <exec> 08└─Now when Obama wants to electrocute the testicles of political dissidents, he can do it for cheap!
[12:57:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome for Obama! - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:03] <exec> 08└─Is it cheaper than electric eels? You can make some Unagi afterwards as well...
[12:57:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awesome for Obama! - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:06] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AckvdGbk4w [youtube.com] ... finding an entrance where they can.
[12:57:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Caps are not good for electric vehicles - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 758 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:08] <exec> 08└─I like them, and I hope they work out, however they are fundamentally flawed. A capacitor has a linear discharge curve (from the physics of two plates losing a potential between them). This means that at 100% SOC you have full voltage, but as you drain the capacitor the voltage drops. Lithium batter...
[12:57:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03_1156277 [5139] (Score:1) 02Re:Caps are not good for electric vehicles - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:10] <exec> 08└─I'd imagine (I'm not an EE) that the current could be maintained through a switching power supply.
[12:57:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Badly written sentence - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:11] <exec> 08└─A capacitor has a linear discharge curve I'm sure you meant to say something entirely different and had a keyboard malfunction. The discharge curve of a capacitor is really heinous. [learningaboutelectronics.com] For those still interested: Charge curve. [learningaboutelectronics.com] As _1156277 in...
[12:57:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Badly written sentence - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:14] <exec> 08└─There's nothing heinous about an exponential curve.
[12:57:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bookreader [3906] (Score:1) 02Re:Caps are not good for electric vehicles - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:16] <exec> 08└─.. A capacitor has a linear discharge curve (from the physics of two plates losing a potential between them). This means that at 100% SOC you have full voltage, but as you drain the capacitor the voltage drops. .. With a capacitor, the car would be peppy at first but performance would drop as the vo...
[12:57:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Errh.... - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:18] <exec> 08└─Aren't batteries just a capacitor? So maybe this is a better battery.
[12:57:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Errh.... - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:20] <exec> 08└─Aren't batteries just a capacitor? So maybe this is a better battery.
[12:57:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02New glasses it is - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:22] <exec> 08└─Oh boy! I really need new glasses; I could not see either... at first. Though, very clever way to fool our brain. Just to remind us that 95+% of what we "see" is what we "think" we see.
[12:57:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:New glasses it is - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:24] <exec> 08└─Cue inflammatory comment about politics and/or news.
[12:57:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03mucsdnop [3687] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:New glasses it is - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:25] <exec> 08└─My vision is terrible and my prescription needs to be updated as well, but I was able to see them with relative ease. That said as a child I was fascinated with optical illusion books such as the Magic Eye books. I've always wondered about whether or not image books such as Magic Eye would train our...
[12:57:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New glasses it is - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:27] <exec> 08└─I've seen this illusion many times, but for some reason, this time it gave me an instant headache and now one eye (my strong eye) is blurry. I hope this effect goes away soon, it's unnerving. I don't understand why it's never done that before with this particular image; it's almost the same feeling...
[12:57:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02As a genius once predicted - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:28] <exec> 08└─"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Marilyn Monroe [youtube.com]
[12:57:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Beer Goggles. - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:30] <exec> 08└─That would explain how beer goggles work.
[12:57:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Breaking news! Is it a duck or a rabbit? - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:32] <exec> 08└─This was already years old when it was on QI. Interesting though, and pretty easy to replicate in Photoshop. Blur one image, Custom->High Pass the other, and Overlay one on top of the other.
[12:57:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking news! Is it a duck or a rabbit? - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:33] <exec> 08└─Elmer Fudd already solved that one.
[12:57:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking news! Is it a duck or a rabbit? - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:35] <exec> 08└─The Fudd Institute's results were thrown out when it was found that their meaning of double-blind was "You shoot at the duck point-bwank six times and it's not dead."
[12:57:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking news! Is it a duck or a rabbit? - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:37] <exec> 08└─Yep...saw this a couple of weeks ago on National Geographic s channel "Brain Games".
[12:57:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Buck Feta [958] (Score:1) 02Simple Physics - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:38] <exec> 08└─This is just the wave/particle duality at work.
[12:57:39] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Re:Simple Physics - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 108 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:40] <exec> 08└─JFK was thoroughly pissed every time his close observation of Marilyn collapsed the wave on the Albert side.
[12:57:41] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Summary gives wrong impression, info missing - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 580 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:42] <exec> 08└─The summary is missing some pertinent information, which explains why I initially thought this was just an old illusion resurfacing. Specifically, that the new experiments aren't to do with close/far away at all. The Marilyn close/Einsten far away thing is a few years old. What seems to be new is th...
[12:57:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Summary gives wrong impression, info missing - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:43] <exec> 08└─Its more than that. If I take off my glasses Marilyn is persistent. If I put them on Einstein is persistent. Time doesn't enter into it.
[12:57:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Summary gives wrong impression, info missing - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:45] <exec> 08└─What you're doing there is effectively the same as the original illusion. Changing the distance changes how much of the fine detail can be seen, as does taking off/putting on your glasses.
[12:57:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Summary gives wrong impression, info missing - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:46] <exec> 08└─Which actually makes sense: There's much more information in the details, so analysing the low frequency information should be much faster. Add to that that you'll often have to react fast, and starting with the big picture becomes the obviously correct strategy.
[12:57:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Summary gives wrong impression, info missing - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:48] <exec> 08└─"What seems to be new is they've flashed the image briefly to people, who tend to be left with "low spatial resolution" impression, ignoring the fine details. [i]That's[/i] what leads to the conclusion that "[...] our brain processes low spatial resolution information first, before it moves on to de...
[12:57:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Summary gives wrong impression, info missing - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:50] <exec> 08└─It's important to note that peripheral vision may view images differently than direct vision.
[12:57:51] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 744 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:53] <exec> 08└─That affirmative defenses only really work on a sympathetic jury. This law will help keep some innocent pot smokers from going to jail, and the law's supporters will claim that's a good thing, but it will provide a false sense of safety to others who are hurting no one. Meanwhile, it'll protect some...
[12:57:54] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03tathra [3367] 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 630 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:56] <exec> 08└─so in other words, you're saying this law will have so many precedents narrowing it down that it will only apply to christianity, and then hopefully get voided for being unconstitutional (violating the 14th). the law says "religion > * (so long as its not used to discriminate)". that means all relig...
[12:57:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:59] <exec> 08└─We all know that enforcement will be based on whether your attitude is offensive to good people. Good people are defined by their attachment to the Christian values.
[12:58:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:02] <exec> 08└─Of course, is that's how it's always been, but codifying that de facto rule into a legally meaningful one is nottheless problematic.
[12:58:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:06] <exec> 08└─and those enforcements will either get thrown out or narrow down the law such that it violates the 14th amendment. either it applies to all 313+ religions held by the people of this country or none at all, the constitution is clear that there is no in-between.
[12:58:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:09] <exec> 08└─either it applies to all 313+ religions held by the people of this country or none at all
[12:58:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:12] <exec> 08└─"atheism" counts as a "religion" for the purpose of this argument. take your pedantry elsewhere.
[12:58:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:15] <exec> 08└─No, it doesn't. "I refuse to do this because I don't think it's right" does not carry the same weight as "I refuse to do it because it goes against the bible that the president used when he got sworn in"
[12:58:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:19] <exec> 08└─> "I refuse to do this because I don't think it's right" does not carry the same weight as "I refuse to do it because it goes against the bible In whose mind? In objective reality they are the same thing. Ultimately unprovable beliefs are the basis of all our own personal definitions of "right." Som...
[12:58:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:22] <exec> 08└─lets look at the definition: [reference.com] religion noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral...
[12:58:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 1338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:25] <exec> 08└─> there's also arguments made by others about how atheism is a religion[link]. Interesting, but flawed logically: he says that the answer to "are you religion_n" is often "no I am atheist", and uses it to imply that atheism is like religion. To see why it's wrong, rephrase it: - are you in the bl...
[12:58:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 1199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:27] <exec> 08└─Yesterday I ran across a little controversy Neil DeGrasse Tyson set into motion: "He has as much interest in meeting with other people to discuss their absence of belief in God as in meeting with non-golfers to talk about their absence of a passion for watching golf." http://www.npr.org
[12:58:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 1957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:29] <exec> 08└─Post theological http://thehumanist.com [thehumanist.com] Opening paragraphs: An American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) from 2001 indicates that over 13 percent of the population identifies as secular/nonreli...
[12:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:31] <exec> 08└─That is actually a useful metric. Some people DO practice Atheism as a religion. They do get together and talk about not-believing. Or more accurately, they can't resist long conversations about why not not believing is harmful and stupid. If anyone says anything that even hints that there might be...
[12:58:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:33] <exec> 08└─A lot of atheists are very religious about it. Including blind believe in texts instead of critically analysing them. It's just that their "holy" texts are not written by Moses, the Evangelists or Mohammed, but e.g. by Dawkins. Truly non-religious people are known as agnostics.
[12:58:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:34] <exec> 08└─Seriously? 313 different religions? I couldn't name more than a dozen or so, and I probably got several of those from playing Civ. Not that I'm doubting you or anything, it just amazes me sometimes what crap people claim to believe.
[12:58:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:37] <exec> 08└─A different religion doesn't necessarily mean a completely different believe system. How many variants of Christianity are there? I'd not be surprised if they'd already make up half of the religions in that count.
[12:58:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:38] <exec> 08└─Prosecutors have been directed by Eric Holder to avoid prosecuting petty marijuana crimes. I want to see stats on prosecutors that have ignored this advice.
[12:58:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Holden and Obama: 4:20 members? - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:40] <exec> 08└─In addition, Obama has recently been convinced that it is unfair that there are a bunch of folks serving prison terms that exceed current sentencing guidelines. Obama Commutes Sentences for 22 Drug War Prisoners [propublica.org] (a tiny fraction of those who applied for clemency.) Most of that was "...
[12:58:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 1245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:42] <exec> 08└─"I value others' rights to believe. I don't value their right to act against others on those beliefs." What you are actually saying is that you value others' rights to believe, as long as they don't insist on practicing it. All that the federal law and the various state laws do, is to say that the g...
[12:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:43] <exec> 08└─Why should a business not be able to choose its clients?
[12:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:45] <exec> 08└─They can, just so long as the deciding factor isn't something outside of everyone's control. Nobody chooses to be black, or female, or homosexual, or disabled, or...
[12:58:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:46] <exec> 08└─You mean like maybe Jack-in -the-box stoner commercials: http://www.ryot.org [ryot.org]
[12:58:47] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 349 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:48] <exec> 08└─Because groups people have routinely abused such powers for no other purpose than to inhibit people from pursuing happy and free lives. And fuck you for implying that's no big deal. It's no different from giving exceptions for murder or theft laws for belief reasons, except that the assholes who are...
[12:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 1050 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:50] <exec> 08└─"It's no different from giving exceptions for murder or theft laws" A photographer refusing to take pictures of a wedding ceremony is now equivalent to shooting the happy couple? Listen, we have all sorts of rights that conflict with all sorts of other people's rights. I have the right to freedom of...
[12:58:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:51] <exec> 08└─You cannot legislate good behavior. Literally the definition of laws. Standards and practices of good behavior all people are expected to adhere to as part of living in society. Libertarians.
[12:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:53] <exec> 08└─I disagree. Laws don't enforce good behaviour, they codify already existing standards of society. That's not a trivial difference - see copyright enforcement, the laws don't match the standards and thus the laws are ineffective. On the flip side, that doesn't mean we have to enable behaviour that go...
[12:58:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:55] <exec> 08└─You cannot legislate good behavior.
[12:58:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 1296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:56] <exec> 08└─Businesses are quasi public places. Seriously, just try operating a profitable business without a public to serve. About the only one I can think of is money laundry, and even then, a paying public is sort of essential at being able to do a good job at hiding ill-gotten gains in legitimate revenue....
[12:58:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 743 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:58] <exec> 08└─Just to nitpick, saying, e.g., "Whites only" may be because you believe that your other customers will go somewhere else if non-white customers start showing up. This may even be a true belief. And my response is, "Too bad". To exclude people because their presence offends other people is both uneth...
[12:58:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:00] <exec> 08└─Secondly, businesses use services (fire, police, dog catchers), utilities (water, sewer), and roads that are paid for by the public as a whole. To turn around and say to that public which pays for that infrastructure: "I'm going to pick and choose who among you monetary contributors I will serve", i...
[12:59:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:01] <exec> 08└─That affirmative defenses only really work on a sympathetic jury.
[12:59:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Funny) 02Can be used to deny people that don't smoke pot? - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:04] <exec> 08└─Does this mean that businesses may deny to service those that aren't practicing Church of Cannabis? Thus if you don't smoke you won't be allowed to eat? :D
[12:59:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can be used to deny people that don't smoke pot - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:05] <exec> 08└─As proof of membership you have to present your blunt at the door!
[12:59:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Can be used to deny people that don't smoke pot - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:08] <exec> 08└─Isn't a more interesting question this; will you be able to toke up everywhere? After all if they say no isn't that an infringement of your rights?
[12:59:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Can be used to deny people that don't smoke pot - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:09] <exec> 08└─Somehow I don't think if these people were denied their rights, it would make the conservatives angry enough to give them almost a million dollars, it's too open and welcoming a group of people.
[12:59:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Can be used to deny people that don't smoke pot - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:11] <exec> 08└─Denying access because you don't smoke or drink etc. Certainly is an infringement on anyones right.
[12:59:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Can be used to deny people that don't smoke pot - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:13] <exec> 08└─Sure but is it legal?
[12:59:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Two steps forwards, one step back... - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:14] <exec> 08└─Mocking religious crazies and forwarding sane drug policy but hosted by failbook. Oh well.
[12:59:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Well - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:16] <exec> 08└─"Mr. Officer, I'm not smoking pot on a non smoking area. I'm just exercising my religious freedom. I must smoke pot everyday this time while facing Jamaica. "
[12:59:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Well - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:18] <exec> 08└─Those are the worst kind of pothead...always listening to Reggae, constantly in a dazed stupor from smoking and eating Marijuana, glued to the couch, having spent more on their bong collection than their car (which always has a pipe in the glovebox and roach ash all inside their door pockets). There...
[12:59:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If i lived there... - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:19] <exec> 08└─...in Indiana or another one of these fucked up, religion insane states, i'd start a church of not believing in local or federal government.
[12:59:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If i lived there... - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:21] <exec> 08└─That would be Washington DC
[12:59:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:3, Insightful) 02This is the problem with religion and state - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:23] <exec> 08└─Putting the state in charge of what is and is not a "valid" religion is the best way to automatically violate Free Exercise Clause. This results in the state having to accept any religion no matter how flaky it sounds. This is no problem... You can call yourself pastafarian or canabisian all you wan...
[12:59:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is the problem with religion and state - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:25] <exec> 08└─Somebody register the Church of Atheism...
[12:59:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Scientology - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:27] <exec> 08└─The major way that the state gets involved is by denying tax-exempt status. The movie out right now that unmasks Scientology has folks in Progressive Media talking about how that "church" got people inside the IRS as employees to gather data which was used for blackmail and insurgency. IRS finally j...
[12:59:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Scientology - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 775 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:28] <exec> 08└─Scientology is like any religion really: 1) Crazy made up story? check 2) Fervent followers? check 3) Revenue generator? check These are the basic elements of all religions -- the only handicap Scientology has is that it is newish compared to the others. Anyway, either they should all -- and by that...
[12:59:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scientology - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:30] <exec> 08└─Clearly, you don't know much about Scientology. What other "religion" has prison camps? What other "religion" requires followers to give extremely detailed accounts of their activities which are recorded and used later for blackmail when those folks want to leave the "religion"? -- gewg_
[12:59:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Scientology - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:31] <exec> 08└─What other "religion" has prison camps?
[12:59:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03budgenator [1529] (Score:1) 02Re:This is the problem with religion and state - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 965 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:33] <exec> 08└─The State usually doesn't validate religions, it merely recognises their tax exempt status. such as Exempt Purposes - Internal Revenue Code Section 501(c)(3) The exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3) are charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fo...
[12:59:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:This is the problem with religion and state - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:35] <exec> 08└─And this is why I am against churches (or things calling themselves churches) having a tax exempt status. This is how you have "churches" like scientology spring up in order to make money. But again, the government has to decide which ones are valid enough to get tax exempt status.
[12:59:36] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Frist Prost - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 101 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:36] <exec> 08└─List of no-systemd distros: http://without-systemd.org [without-systemd.org]
[12:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Frist Prost - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:38] <exec> 08└─List needs to be updated -- Doesn't include Kwort Linux: http://kwort.org [kwort.org]
[12:59:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Informative) 02Option for people with Debian OS - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:40] <exec> 08└─Alternative for those on the Debian poison: https://devuan.org [devuan.org] (then there's always that software from some university in Berkeley ;-) )
[12:59:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Option for people with Debian OS - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 1769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:41] <exec> 08└─I don't think Devuan is ever going to pick up steam. They made some bad decisions early in the project that might have crippled them for good: an ugly website, a name that unfortunately evokes derision among North American users, and they continued to release English-language publicity in ungrammati...
[12:59:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02Re:Option for people with Debian OS - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:44] <exec> 08└─Sorry, that should have read "I find the Unix philosophy perennially attractive".
[12:59:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Option for people with Debian OS - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:45] <exec> 08└─Declining help seems like a really bad decision when it's that obvious. Is there any other specific decisions that may have destroyed the project? What alternatives to Debian and Devuan are there? (the question one might ask is where the systemd buck stops - preferably the hard way)
[12:59:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Option for people with Debian OS - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:47] <exec> 08└─Here on SN some users have responded to those criticisms by saying that only the quality of the code matters, not the project's presentation, but sadly in the real world we live in, a presentation that doesn't draw such scorn does matter for getting a critical mass.
[12:59:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Option for people with Debian OS - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 2043 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:49] <exec> 08└─When Devuan got started, I dropped into their channel on Freedom to see what I could to do to help. I do not look forward to having to migrate my systems (or the SN servers) from Ubuntu, and if I had an easy option to remove systemd from the stack, I would take it. As such, I had both a professional...
[12:59:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:4, Informative) 02I'll just leave this here. - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:50] <exec> 08└─I just might want to point out that there are other init systems [universe2.us] out there. Like the undying glory of the Epoch Init System.
[12:59:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02LXQt - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:52] <exec> 08└─The choice to stay with LXDE makes sense to me, it has for quiet a while been my go to DE. PCmanfm is a good file manager and the whole of LXDE runs nicely on aging hardware. (set up a perfectly smooth system with debian 7 and LXDE on an Athlon64 3000+ with 512MiB DDR2) . I have been playing with LX...
[12:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:LXQt - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:53] <exec> 08└─I won't be surprised if a lot of the decision to go to systemd deals with the fact that Unity still uses a large number of GNOME components, which in turn depend on systemd. Using upstart was reasonable as long as the vast majority of the stack didn't break w/o systemd, but without Debian making sur...
[12:59:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:LXQt - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 1092 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:55] <exec> 08└─Weird thing is that supposedly Canonical was poised to take over development of Consolekit, that used to do what Logind (the main link between Gnome and Systemd at this point) does now, but for some reason it never happened. But then there is all kind of weird passive-aggressive stuff regarding the...
[12:59:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 85 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:57] <exec> 08└─His reply: Argentina uses the Falklands issue as a distraction from problems at home.
[12:59:58] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03janrinok [52] 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 2303 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:58] <exec> 08└─Apologies to yourself and, of course, Gungnir Sniper - I misread that comment. As to the value of the Falkland Islands - and as GS has already rightly pointed out - Argentina is looking closely at the Falkland Islands. Oil has been discovered in the waters around FI, although the full potential of...
[12:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:00] <exec> 08└─Thank you for the insight. When reading the Wikipedia article the economics section mentions that oil exploration has so far turned up nothing. So this looks more like a gamble. That or they are still certain that there is oil but they haven't narrowed down where to drill yet.
[13:00:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:02] <exec> 08└─I find it kind of odd, that on this website, on which we are daily harangued about the evils of corporations and capitalism and the pursuit of profit, that the resource value of the Islands is the only thing with which you concern yourself when casting judgement on defending the Islands.
[13:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:03] <exec> 08└─You misinterpreted my intent. I was purposely being blunt by calling the land worthless. The reason I used resource value was to further illustrate how petty the war really was (the 1982 invasion).
[13:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:05] <exec> 08└─There was no known oil in 1982. The invasion was entirely orchestrated by Galtieri as a way of diverting attention from domestic problems - as pointed out by Gungnir Sniper. Prime Minister Thatcher elected to re-capture the islands to uphold the democratic principle (I'm not arguing whether that was...
[13:00:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:07] <exec> 08└─I dont think my point came across properly. I knew of the Falklands and the 1982 war. But I was ignorant as to why Argentina wanted to capture it. I suppose after witnessing two pointless "wars" one which involves the USA military running around the middle east and the other involves Russia. Both ha...
[13:00:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 1171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:08] <exec> 08└─See your wrong there as well. The left is fond of saying the wars in the middle east are about oil. But they never were. Afghanistan and Iraq were never significant historical sources of Oil for the US, and that hasn't changed. There were principals involved in both wars, and you have to admit that...
[13:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:10] <exec> 08└─Prime Minister Thatcher elected to re-capture the islands to uphold the democratic principle (I'm not arguing whether that was justified or not - so I'm not looking for a political debate). If you had asked most Britons where the Falkland Islands were, they wouldn't have had a clue,
[13:00:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:3, Informative) 02Oil and Gas Exploration - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 676 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:12] <exec> 08└─There are indications of oil, but whether there is sufficient to make the extraction worthwhile is to be decided. Four sedimentary basins that could potentially contain hydrocarbons have been identified in the Falkland Island waters. They are: North Falkland Basin which is located to the north of th...
[13:00:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 1138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:13] <exec> 08└─I disagree; if they went back to an older method of war-fighting, it'd be easy to remove the Argentinians from the Falklands. The UK has comparatively huge military assets. Isolate the islands, and then attack mainland Argentina directly. Keep it up until the surrender unconditionally. Bomb their ci...
[13:00:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:15] <exec> 08└─Well, we would have had an operational carrier if the US had delivered the aircraft on time, with a second well into its construction. They were/are delayed partly due to lack of aircraft.
[13:00:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:16] <exec> 08└─This tactic is used by others as well. Pakistan has been using this tactic against India for the past 20 years.
[13:00:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03janrinok [52] 02But isn't this how it is meant to happen? - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 841 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:00:18] <exec> 08└─Snowden has released some interesting information regarding how governments have abused their powers and conducted operations against their own people, often in contravention of extant laws. That was information that was of interest because it shouldn't have happened. But this claim, that one of 2 c...
[13:00:19] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02I am shocked. - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 214 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:00:20] <exec> 08└─I am a British taxpayer and I find this quite shocking. Taxpayers' money is being spent, in secret, without public oversight and accountability, for exactly what it should be? Consider my gast thoroughly flabbered.
[13:00:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I am shocked. - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:21] <exec> 08└─Yes, this is definitely a good thing, and it's good that they steal money for these purposes.
[13:00:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02let's be clear - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:00:23] <exec> 08└─The summary only names Snowden, but it was most likely not Snowden who made the decision to release this particular info. Remember, he handed over all the leaked data to Greenwald before he went to Russia.
[13:00:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:let's be clear - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:25] <exec> 08└─Well, it does say "Snowden & friends", but point taken. Snowden just turned the material over in bulk, and others are the ones deciding what gets published when. Maybe they decided to publish it when they realized how little of this 'kind' of spying was actually going on.
[13:00:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wit missing from summary - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:26] <exec> 08└─I noticed the opportunity to go alliterative but it was late and my brain was in its cool-down cycle. Good for you for picking up the spare. ...and the dept. is missing the G that should be at the start of that. -- gewg_
[13:00:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Wit missing from summary - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:28] <exec> 08└─Why the obsession with alliterations? This is SoylentNews, not AlliterativeNews.
[13:00:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wit missing from summary - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:30] <exec> 08└─Too much time spent at El Reg. The silliness rubs off. -- gewg_
[13:00:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Wit missing from summary - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:31] <exec> 08└─I prefer to think of it as the unofficial Daily Mail online digital supplement.
[13:00:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Democracy In The Dark - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:00:33] <exec> 08└─http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2015-04-06/frederick-a-o-schwarz-jr-democracy-in-the-dark-the-seduction-of-government-secrecy [thedianerehmshow.org]
[13:00:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1, Disagree) 02Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:00:34] <exec> 08└─There will be plenty more harm to the USA. Ever wonder what secrets might be hidden by Russia, Israel, France, and China? Snowden cheerleaders are ignoring this, ignoring the $billions (possibly $trillions eventually) of damage to the USA, and ignoring that the vast majority of the leaked stuff was...
[13:00:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:36] <exec> 08└─And maybe the powerful elite become even more cemented into place than they are now using the NSA spy data like the way the FBI tried to use its espionage to end martin luther king jr. [godhatesshrimp.com] And because of that the USA's economy stagnates, serving the short term interests of the entre...
[13:00:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:38] <exec> 08└─God damn fucking cut-n-paste: https://www.eff.org [eff.org]
[13:00:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:39] <exec> 08└─You've been posting in the Indiana threads I take it. ;-) God Hates Shrimp is worth reading anytime you need some levity.
[13:00:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03tniemi [1639] (Score:2, Informative) 02Snowden did not "dump everything" - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:41] <exec> 08└─He did not "dump everything". Please educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] If you want to read the same in more palatable form I recommend Greenwald's book: http://www.amazon.com
[13:00:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02Re:Snowden did not "dump everything" - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:43] <exec> 08└─I checked the Wikipedia article. That confirms what I wrote. Figuratively at least, he dumped everything. Oh, maybe he didn't release the contract for printer paper or some other random minor shit. Is it not reasonable to spy on at least one other country? Surely you can imagine one. (suggestions: N...
[13:00:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02The usefulness of Yes Men - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:44] <exec> 08└─Does the laundry charge you more if all your shirts are brown? [google.com] The thing about Authoritarians is that they can outlive their usefulness. See "Night of the Long Knives". Thom Hartmann likes to point out that The Right is composed of the rich, the flunkies of the rich, and suckers. Which...
[13:00:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:46] <exec> 08└─ignoring the $billions (possibly $trillions eventually) of damage to the USA
[13:00:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:48] <exec> 08└─The possibly unconstitutional (iffy until the Supreme Court decides) stuff was a drop in the bucket compared to the rest. Most of the leaked stuff involved mass surveillance of foreigners, which is nearly the entire purpose of the NSA, CIA, NRO, etc. Don't be shocked if they are mostly doing their j...
[13:00:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:50] <exec> 08└─The possibly unconstitutional (iffy until the Supreme Court decides)
[13:00:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 1450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:52] <exec> 08└─International relations are not based on holding hands around a campfire singing Kumbaya. Unless you are spying on somebody, you need to assume that they are not innocent, else you may get a nasty surprise. (Ukraine for example) Of course, if you are spying on somebody, then almost certainly you wil...
[13:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:53] <exec> 08└─Jeez -- you've obviously been at SN since right near the beginning so I'm guessing you aren't a paid astroturfer. Just fucking stupid.
[13:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02Guess how you look to me. - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:56] <exec> 08└─You look like the type who expects people of every nation to join hands, sit around the campfire, and sing Kumbaya. It's a form of stupid.
[13:00:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:57] <exec> 08└─A well run democracy is more powerful than others. The president is the executive branch. He does not decide anything other than how to work within the law that the representatives that we voted for amend. We are the ones who need to be more informed, not less. The NSA has hurt the very foundation o...
[13:00:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:59] <exec> 08└─Or maybe your job at the NSA will be axed! Ha! Ha! Ha! An America that depends on secrecy deserves to go down.
[13:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:00] <exec> 08└─There will be plenty more harm to the USA.
[13:01:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Side effects? - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:01:02] <exec> 08└─Will using that archive automatically put you on the NSA surveillance list?
[13:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03draconx [4649] (Score:1) 02Re:Side effects? - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:04] <exec> 08└─Will using that archive automatically put you on the NSA surveillance list?
[13:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02torrent - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:01:05] <exec> 08└─Is this available as a torrent? Copies of this should be made and distributed as much as possible...
[13:01:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh horrors, Timmy's got priorities! - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:07] <exec> 08└─I can't believe the solution was so simple -- it should have been pay the gay away. They've been doing all wrong these years!
[13:01:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:09] <exec> 08└─Your ignorance is overwhelming. Tell me - WHICH CHURCH endorsed those actions?
[13:01:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2, Flamebait) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 2060 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:10] <exec> 08└─https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=imam%20preaches%20jihad [google.com] Number two hit in that search has in imam near Washington D.C. who answers to your description. Third hit has another imam who has connections to D.C. and New York. Fifth hit another ima...
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[13:01:12] <exec> 08└─I'm not going to argue that Muslim clerics aren't preaching violence and hatred against gays and non Muslims. There are certainly those who are. When someone countered your arguments by mentioning Christian extremism you tried to dodge them by demanding the individual church containing said preacher...
[13:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 1080 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:14] <exec> 08└─The proof that you are wrong, is the fact that Christianity ruled this country for years. We still have remnants of that rule - so-called "Blue Laws" for instance. Despite the "intolerance" of Christians, we have what we have today, do we not? When you speak of "extremist Christians" in the United S...
[13:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:16] <exec> 08└─The proof that you are wrong, is the fact that Christianity ruled this country for years.
[13:01:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:18] <exec> 08└─The proof that you are wrong, is the fact that Christianity ruled this country for years.
[13:01:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:19] <exec> 08└─> Find me a church that endorses, encourages, and openly flaunts these actions. Church of the National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan [splcenter.org] Church of the American Knights of the KKK [adl.org]
[13:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:21] <exec> 08└─> No, I'm not denying that some people burnt crosses on black family's lawns. > I'm denying that ANY CHURCH ENDORSED THOSE ACTIONS! The Church of Jesus Christ-Christian [jta.org]
[13:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:23] <exec> 08└─Like burning Christian crosses on lawns in a neighborhood where a black man had the gumption to break God's law and get run into by a white woman? Yes, it was 50 years ago, but it's not like it was in the middle ages. No, it still happens. [abc27.com]
[13:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:24] <exec> 08└─Compare the number of people put to death throughout all of the Inquisitions in Europe, to the number of non-Muslims killed in the past year or two by ISIS.
[13:01:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:27] <exec> 08└─Sophistry my arse. Look at the world today. Where are all the trouble spots? Where are people dying en masse? Who is doing the killing? TODAY, not a thousand years ago, or even five hundred years ago. Christianity was never this extreme, and it has mellowed over time. Count the bodies. There are non...
[13:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:28] <exec> 08└─like i said, extremists are bad. using extremists to generalize an entire religion is fallicious, specifically faulty generalization. even if you're fine with people using Westboro Baptist Church and the Church of the American Knights of the KKK to generalize for all Christians, its still a faulty g...
[13:01:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:30] <exec> 08└─"which you obviously know nothing about." Now you claim to know Islam? Are you Muslim? No? The sophistry is all one-sided here. Islam incites violence throughout the Pacific island nations, throughout Asia, and it is beginning to be violent in Europe. Africa has known nothing but violence for decade...
[13:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:32] <exec> 08└─> Now you claim to know Islam? Are you Muslim? No? He might not be. But my wife and inlaws are and they are nothing like the bullshit you are selling.
[13:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:1) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:34] <exec> 08└─Buddhists are killing people in Burma, Sri Lanka, Indonesia. Christians are killing in Ethiopia and Eastern Europe. Muslims are killing in the Middle East. Quit being a closed-minded ignorant dick and actually think about the world you live in. Also, Christianity was MORE extreme. During the Crusade...
[13:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:36] <exec> 08└─Christians are killing in Eastern Europe? Maybe you have a link to that. I'm aware of some fascist rat bastards who are intent on ethnic cleansing of Ukraine - but I was NOT aware that those fascists were invoking the Name of God in their war against Russian speaking people.
[13:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:37] <exec> 08└─Maybe you have a link to that.
[13:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:39] <exec> 08└─http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/06/middleeast/iraq-mass-graves/index.html?eref=edition [cnn.com]
[13:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:41] <exec> 08└─http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/boston-bombing-trial/boston-marathon-bombing-trial-reaches-closing-stages-n336201 [nbcnews.com]
[13:01:41] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 2766 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:42] <exec> 08└─Your ignorance is overwhelming. ISIS (or what everyone who actually lives in the Middle East calls "Daesh") is currently a declared enemy of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, UAE, and Syria, and is widely opposed by most of the residents of the Middle East as well as by their governments. It's about...
[13:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:44] <exec> 08└─"(sometimes risking their life to do so)" Imagine that. When was the last time the Pope, or a bishop, issued a fatwah against some other cleric with different views? What barbarians - and you help to make my point. Your points against Christianity are noted. Also noted, are the lack of citations.
[13:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:45] <exec> 08└─Here is another citation for you to ignore: Lord's Resistance Army [wikipedia.org]
[13:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:47] <exec> 08└─Uh-huh. And, who endorses this "army"? The pope? American baptists? Maybe you should read the article you cite in it's entirety. It explains who and what the "Lord's Army" is. It could go further in depth with the explanation, but it most assuredly makes the point that it is NOT part of Christianity...
[13:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:49] <exec> 08└─You've got a big case of no true scottsman fallacy going on there. > And, who endorses this "army"? The pope? American baptists? So if religious authorities fail to endorse a sect that makes the sect not part of the religion? What if religious authorities actively denounce a sect? [mediamatters.org]
[13:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 1569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:50] <exec> 08└─Death of Savita Halappanavar: The death of Savita Halappanavar on 28 October 2012, at University Hospital Galway in Ireland, led to nationwide protests—which spilled over into India, Britain and many other countries—calling for a review of the abortion laws in Ireland. Halappanavar, a woman of I...
[13:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:53] <exec> 08└─Doctors were less than competent - and they allowed their religious beliefs to interfere with their diagnosis. Got it - and your point? Oh - abortion. Well - I'm opposed to abortion in general, so I can't follow you on that line of thought. I can agree if you are condemning those doctors for incompe...
[13:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 5431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:54] <exec> 08└─WRT circumcision: Male circumcision has arguments in it's favor, as well as against it. It does, e.g., offer a measure of protection against some diseases. It's not profoundly disabling. (There are those who claim a minor decrease in sensitivity, but I doubt that there can have been reasonable compa...
[13:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 902 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:56] <exec> 08└─I think people got it backwards. There is no good liberal Christianity against bad Christian fundamentalism. The faith is fundamental by definition. Deploring fundamentalism is being a troll or having been trolled, because a Christian fundamentalist is a Christian, can't do anything but follow the w...
[13:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:58] <exec> 08└─Some examples you reported are clearly not following the words nor the example of Christ.
[13:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:59] <exec> 08└─That, in essence, is the "No True Scotsman" fallacy: I was responding to the argument that Christians don't endorse awful things by pointing out many awful things that were indeed endorsed by Christian leaders. The answer of "Well, they aren't real Christians" doesn't hold any more weight than the a...
[13:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:01] <exec> 08└─> Muslims are killing Yazidi Christians just for being Christian. Yazidi aren't christian any more than they are muslim. > You don't find Christians ANYWHERE in the world slaughtering non-believers just for being non-believers. Sure. Christians aren't emptying entire muslim villiages in the Central...
[13:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:02] <exec> 08└─> Find one of Christians stoning homos. Your word choice is pretty revealing there.
[13:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:1) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:04] <exec> 08└─Wow, you think assholes getting mobbed for xenophobic/racist/religiously inflammatory shirts and posters means sharia law is in effect? I was just in Dearborn yesterday, no problems at all. Maybe that's just because I'm not a complete dick.
[13:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:06] <exec> 08└─Yes, assholes being mobbed is a sign of the "peaceful religion", right? So - you're ready to justify a mob of people stoning gays, the next time THOSE assholes hold a gay pride rally? Same thing, Pal. A mob is a mob.
[13:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:07] <exec> 08└─> A mob is a mob. EXACTLY!!!! Mob violence has no religion, no race, no culture. It is a human thing.
[13:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:09] <exec> 08└─Tell me - what neighborhoods in the United States have vigilante Christians posted to prevent non-Christians from entering? The No-Go zones have been so througoughly debunked that even Fox News apologized for covering them. It must take actual effort to purposely keep yourself this misinform...
[13:02:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 63 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:11] <exec> 08└─Rational religion? That doesn't even make any sense. Try again.
[13:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:12] <exec> 08└─> Rational religion? That doesn't even make any sense. Try again. Only to a binary thinker. Religion is an exceptionally complex part of the human existence, to dismiss it entirely due to some parts which are unfalsifiable is a kind of reductionism befitting a 12-year old.
[13:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:14] <exec> 08└─Nonsense. There's no evidence of magical sky daddies, so I have no reason to believe in such a thing. I also have zero reason to be part of any religion. How complex religions are is irrelevant. to dismiss it entirely due to some parts which are unfalsifiable is a kind of reductionism befitting a 1...
[13:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:16] <exec> 08└─> Nonsense. There's no evidence of magical sky daddies, See, that is reductionism in the extreme. "Magical sky daddies" are only tiny facet of any religion. > Only to a "binary thinker". I do not think that means what you think it means.
[13:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:17] <exec> 08└─See, that is reductionism in the extreme. "Magical sky daddies" are only tiny facet of any religion.
[13:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:19] <exec> 08└─> No, that is a huge facet, because it indicates they are irrational for believing in something without evidence As a practical matter it is a TINY facet. It isn't like God is interceding in the daily affairs, it is all just people decding what's important and what's not. > I don't care if you think...
[13:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:20] <exec> 08└─As a practical matter it is a TINY facet.
[13:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:22] <exec> 08└─>> As a practical matter it is a TINY facet. > > I disagree entirely. As soon as you involve supernatural garbage or magical sky daddies, your religion is irrational right off the bat. What have learned today? Words Anal does not understand: reductionist practical binary
[13:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:24] <exec> 08└─I disagree entirely.
[13:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:25] <exec> 08└─I disagree entirely. As soon as you involve supernatural garbage or magical sky daddies, your religion is irrational right off the bat.
[13:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:27] <exec> 08└─I'd say it's you who lacks understanding.
[13:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:29] <exec> 08└─Not surprising, considering how much you're exemplifying the Dunning Kruger effect while discussing the subject.
[13:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 896 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:30] <exec> 08└─> As an atheist, I don't expect you to know anything about religion. Sorry, I'm the atheist he's been arguing with in this thread and I say you are totally off. For one thing, atheists have the highest amount of general knowledge about religion. [npr.org] Which makes sense - religious people tend to...
[13:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:32] <exec> 08└─But what I do believe is that as an atheist, Anal hasn't bothered to understand the religious impulse at all.
[13:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:33] <exec> 08└─> Not understanding it and calling it irrational are two different things. It could be, but in your case they are two sides of the same coin. You are like the queen of flatland, completely and utterly convinced that there are no more than 2 dimensions in the universe. For you a 3rd dimension is so i...
[13:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:35] <exec> 08└─It could be, but in your case they are two sides of the same coin.
[13:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:37] <exec> 08└─Rational religion? That doesn't even make any sense.
[13:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:38] <exec> 08└─God
[13:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:41] <exec> 08└─God
[13:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:42] <exec> 08└─Right. It could also be some irrational newage nonsense. It just depends on who you're talking to. But I read part of that article, and it sounds suspiciously like magical sky daddies are at work.
[13:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:44] <exec> 08└─if you'd read the quote, you would know that belief in magical sky faeries is mere superstition: If religious beliefs and opinions are found contrary to the standards of science they are mere superstitions and imaginations.
[13:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:46] <exec> 08└─And why would this be a religion? The Wikipedia article even mentions prayer. I think I'm just going to go play with a newage bullshit generator or something. how God can be scientifically quantifiable and still be God is left to the individual:
[13:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:47] <exec> 08└─"prayer" is just a form of meditation, even for christians. [wikipedia.org] Interesting dodge.
[13:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:49] <exec> 08└─Its clear that you're not really interested in this and had your mind made up long ago, and no new facts or new information will ever influence you on the matter
[13:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:51] <exec> 08└─"prayer" is just a form of meditation, even for christians.
[13:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:53] <exec> 08└─> There, your own words right back at you. Need I remind you that you haven't agreed with me yet? That must mean you're closed-minded! The difference is that he understands your argument and is saying there is more to it. He is agreeing with your analysis and adding to it. You, on the other hand ins...
[13:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:55] <exec> 08└─The difference is that he understands your argument and is saying there is more to it.
[13:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:56] <exec> 08└─> I'm also saying there is more to it than he lets on. Like what? I don't see you talking about anything more. In the venn diagram of this discussion your position is fully encompassed by his.
[13:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:58] <exec> 08└─He tries to put forth that religion as rational, but if you read the articles, it reads as new age nonsense. References to god, prayer, creation, true religion, synergies, and other such things. Probably all defined in a very 'creative' fashion. If their intent is to paint themselves as rational, th...
[13:02:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:59] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but religions can be rational. Rationality cannot derive the axioms that it works from. Mind you, I don't think I've ever encountered one, but to assert that it doesn't make sense is to be unreasonable. Additionally, many religions have a retro-fitted consistent set of logical arguments justi...
[13:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:01] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but religions can be rational.
[13:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:03] <exec> 08└─> Do not compare the two, as they're not even remotely alike. They are identical. Hell you think they are both meaningless, why is that? How are they differently meaningless?
[13:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:04] <exec> 08└─They are identical.
[13:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03halcyon1234 [1082] (Score:2) 02Paid DLC - 06Game About Net Neutrality Receives Grant from Epic Games - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:03:06] <exec> 08└─It's a very challenging game, but you can pay for the "Fast Track" DLC. You get a limited number of "premium" race tracks where you don't get throttled, but the race only has one, limited, per-determined outcome.
[13:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Old fashioned way. - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:08] <exec> 08└─Well, as the OP said, you and your partner definitely had problems. (In your case, it was medical problems that made other BC methods unviable or undesirable.)
[13:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:What a poor quality article - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:09] <exec> 08└─One time payments just don't cut it for moving the needle.
[13:03:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TLA [5128] 02Things they don't want to tell you - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 1167 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:03:12] <exec> 08└─1. Depo shots are used on young girls who are told that it is entirely beneficial. Particularly vulnerable groups include those in state care and adoptees. 2. Depo shots are in fact used to mitigate the "risk" of offspringing mixed-race children. 3. Depo shots cause wild hormonal imbalances. Includi...
[13:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:Things they don't want to tell you - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:13] <exec> 08└─I was sick to death of it 5 years ago.
[13:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Things they don't want to tell you - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:15] <exec> 08└─And you know what? Sorry if I'm being overly hostile. I just detest people pushing the whole "Medicine works statistically therefor should always be used" line. I was sick to death of that 25 years ago.
[13:03:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Things they don't want to tell you - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:17] <exec> 08└─You're the problem.
[13:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Things they don't want to tell you - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:18] <exec> 08└─Statistically you have one testicle and one ovary, therefore that is precisely the reality of the situation and no rationalization can change it. Clearly makes sense.
[13:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Things they don't want to tell you - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:20] <exec> 08└─It's not like medical science actually takes things like gender and age and conditions into account, so you've stumbled on an amazing insight. No wait. You're dumb, and should completely rethink your worldview. You won't because we're having an internet argument, but you should
[13:03:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:why would a woman trust him? - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:22] <exec> 08└─We do see women clamoring for abortion to be illegal. They are called Republicans.
[13:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why would a woman trust him? - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:23] <exec> 08└─We do see women clamoring for abortion to be illegal. They are called Republicans.
[13:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Why should a man have to trust her? - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:25] <exec> 08└─A man has just as much at stake as a woman
[13:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03JBanister [5195] (Score:1) 02Re:why would a woman trust him? - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:26] <exec> 08└─Regardless of whether she's trusting you or not, the shot sounds like cheap insurance against a paternity suit in the event of condom breakage, particularly considering it's an outpatient procedure where the material injected is less expensive than a syringe.
[13:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:"needles in close proximity to testicles" - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:28] <exec> 08└─I guess I have less visceral fortitude than most women. I've only allowed a doctor or corpsman to examine my private parts a couple times in my life. This is why you get a female GP.
[13:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:"needles in close proximity to testicles" - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:30] <exec> 08└─I only know of one in my area - and I've only seen her once in the emergency room. Like most good male family doctors, she is a sweet old person, easy to talk to, easy to trust, calm, sure, and competent. And, apparently, she has a full roster of patients already.
[13:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:"needles in close proximity to testicles" - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:31] <exec> 08└─You need to move out of the sticks then. Even in this crappy conservative city I live in now, I've got a very attractive 30-something female for my GP.
[13:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:"needles in close proximity to testicles" - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:33] <exec> 08└─Mmmmm. I'll admit that I would rather undress in front of a female than a male, if I must undress. But - you suggest that I move to a different region of the country, so that I can find a female doctor? Isn't that a sexist attitude? Seems to me no less sexist than assuming a female doctor must be le...
[13:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:"needles in close proximity to testicles" - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:35] <exec> 08└─So are you saying it's "sexist" for me, as a heterosexual male, to prefer courting women as lovers, and that I should give equal energy to courting men? Just think about that for awhile, alright? No, I don't think it's sexist at all for me to prefer having attractive women handling my private parts,...
[13:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:1) 02Re:"needles in close proximity to testicles" - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 665 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:36] <exec> 08└─I have had zero problems dropping trou in front of both male and female doctors. But when its the choice of being prudish, or having bladder cancer dealt with, being a prude takes a back seat. The only time there was a "problem", was when they had the youngest, and cutest nurse remove the catheter f...
[13:03:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:too bad - 06What happened to Consumerist's Worst Company in America contest? - 2839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:38] <exec> 08└─If anything, mainstream media is guilty of spinning, downplaying, or most of all simply ignoring the most damaging behavior that is routine for corporations. They only pile on when there is so much blood in the water that every shark within 100 miles has come and the slick can be seen from space. Co...
[13:03:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mr_mischief [4884] (Score:1) 02Re:too bad - 06What happened to Consumerist's Worst Company in America contest? - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:40] <exec> 08└─Mainstream media is big corporations. What do you expect of them when it comes to talking about big corporations?
[13:03:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] 02Re:Interruption of Contest can only mean one thing - 06What happened to Consumerist's Worst Company in America contest? - 115 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:41] <exec> 08└─Monsanto fed them grain that caused a breast to grow out of their forehead - so Comcast git some pathetic sympathy.
[13:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Congratulations are in order - 06Another Glimpse into Russia's Troll Factory - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:43] <exec> 08└─its called journalism.
[13:03:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Congratulations are in order - 06Another Glimpse into Russia's Troll Factory - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:44] <exec> 08└─STFU, you paid Russian troll somewhere!!!
[13:03:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03deimtee [3272] 02Re:Considering... - 06Another Glimpse into Russia's Troll Factory - 87 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:46] <exec> 08└─How do you feel about we are close to the point where chat bots can pass a Turing test?
[13:03:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03tomek [3281] (Score:1) 02Ministry of Truth - 06Another Glimpse into Russia's Troll Factory - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:03:48] <exec> 08└─The Ministry of Truth in east Eurasia is now working. Telescreens were released earlier this year. Interesting times...
[13:03:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03deimtee [3272] 02Re:Long-haul trucking - 06The Tesla Factor and Self Driving Cars - 298 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:49] <exec> 08└─Trains should be a more economical alternative than trucks for long haul. The problem is that trucks have offloaded their costs onto other motorists and governments. The vast majority of road damage is caused by heavy vehicles, yet they pay a minute percentage of road maintenance and repair costs.
[13:03:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:It's simple - 06The Tesla Factor and Self Driving Cars - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:51] <exec> 08└─The problem might be how driving is the best solution for a "1400 miles each way" trip. The gas, wear&tear, oil change and driver strain should in theory put other transport systems at a significant competitive advantage. It is the case in denser Europe/Asia.
[13:03:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:It's simple - 06The Tesla Factor and Self Driving Cars - 1257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:53] <exec> 08└─You't think so, and rail travel would have been a distant second choice, if it wasn't so ridiculously expensive and actually WENT where I wanted to go. With two drivers, 1400 miles isn't that far, and modern roads and modern cars make for an enjoyable trip. We spent 30 years in Alaska, where you can...
[13:03:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:It's simple - 06The Tesla Factor and Self Driving Cars - 830 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:54] <exec> 08└─> Realistically, to be other than a shopping or commuting platform Tesla would have to double the battery range, or maybe triple it. The extra weight would kill the concept, and the cheap EVs couldn't even exist. Most people now live in cities, and few people drive over 80 miles in a day. Since most...
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[13:53:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:53:42] <exec> 08└─How does this law really help? Where does the $15,000 come from? The tax payers or the police officer? A better law would be one that at least threatens to put the police officer in jail. Stealing people's stuff is wrong, and stealing/destroying stuff to cover up bad stuff is even worse. So a police...
[13:53:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:53:43] <exec> 08└─we can only hope it will be adopted by other states
[13:53:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:53:45] <exec> 08└─Good point. 15K is way too low for damages. If you have your video and a cop gets fired for it that is at least 50K a year to them so it should be at least that for the photographer also. Reminds me I have been meaning to invest in button cams.
[13:53:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:53:47] <exec> 08└─The reason it's not redundant is that crooked cops will use other laws (e.g. wiretapping) as an excuse to arrest the person making the recording and seize the device with the incriminating-the-police recording, and once the case is thrown out by a court (as it always is) the recording has been myste...
[13:53:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Write your reps! - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:53:48] <exec> 08└─Write your reps, Colorado people. I did yesterday. The cops keep doing shit like this and need a bitchslap to make them stop.
[13:53:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02But is the cop compelled to return the camera? - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:53:50] <exec> 08└─This may be just a means of codifying a price tag onto the 1st amendment. I'd be interested in knowing who they hired to come up with the 15K$ number. Somebody probably did some polling or some calculations to figure out what the most cost effective hush money figure would be.
[13:53:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Not enough - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:53:52] <exec> 08└─$15K isn't enough; this will be considered like "the cost of doing business". It should be $150K, or even $1M.
[13:54:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:And if you are extremely introverted ... - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:00] <exec> 08└─Not true. This is a thing that is studied, and us shut ins can read available material. 70% of people fall somewhere on the extroverted half of the most commonly used psychological test(big five personality indicator). That means more likely to agree than disagree with statements like "I am energize...
[13:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:4, Informative) 02extrOverted - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:02] <exec> 08└─Sorry for meta/OT, but please please please for the love of god fix the spelling of extr_O_verted in the summary.
[13:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:extrOverted - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:04] <exec> 08└─Which spelling is the right one? Typing extrOversion into wiki redirects me to extrAversion... In other words, what spelling are you complaining about? Was it wrong in the headline and it is now fixed OR the other way round.
[13:54:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:extrOverted - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:06] <exec> 08└─Extroversion [merriam-webster.com] is the English spelling. Extraversion is according to the preceding link the German spelling of the word.
[13:54:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02WRONG!!! - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:07] <exec> 08└─I have no friend and there is no such paradox.
[13:54:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Paradise Pete [1806] (Score:1) 02Re:WRONG!!! - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:09] <exec> 08└─I have no friend and there is no such paradox.
[13:54:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:1) 02Re:Flamebait title - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:18] <exec> 08└─Tepco, please.
[13:54:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kbahey [1147] (Score:2) 02Crossed the Pacific, and reached Canada - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:21] <exec> 08└─There are radiation traces of cesium from Fukushima that reached British Columbia in Canada [www.cbc.ca]. Not dangerous, but noteworthy.
[13:54:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02How does one have a *mandatory* *preference*? - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:35] <exec> 08└─Of course, of course, I *prefered* LibreOffice, as I am *mandated* to do. However, it didn't have that nice paperclip feature, so I chose MS Office instead.
[13:54:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bookreader [3906] (Score:1) 02It's DeitY, not DEITY - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:37] <exec> 08└─The site of the department [deity.gov.in] clearly uses DeitY and not DEITY. While The Register made successfully their tongue-in-cheek in the title of the article, it probably would be better to be a bit more serious when creating and editing summaries here on SN. And (on topic), good for India. The...
[13:54:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Re:I live in California - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:49] <exec> 08└─Seems us little people use some 20% of the water in Ca, farmers get 80%.
[13:55:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dammit Microsoft - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:55:18] <exec> 08└─Two steps forward, one step back. I guess their new friendly image only applies in the USA? I still think they are a much better company than they were even five years ago, but they still manage to piss me off sometimes.
[13:55:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plutonium causes bone necrosis - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 1584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:55:39] <exec> 08└─I actually had thought something more akin to the "autism spectrum", but what do I know? of course, my employers had once let out on accident that they describe me to others as the really smart guy that is a high functioning autistic because he has quirks, like disagreeing with blind obedience to th...
[13:56:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ox0000 [5111] (Score:1) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:56:15] <exec> 08└─How hard would it be to build an EMP device powerful enough to disable these warrior bots?
[13:57:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:57:54] <exec> 08└─i got the number from here. [procon.org] most of them are under "Other Unclassified" (124), "New Age"(127), and "Christianity" (35), and then another 25 different ones on top of those groups (and atheism is covered by Humanism).
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[15:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02Hardware - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:44] <exec> 08└─What about hardware accelerated performence? That is going to be the key factor for playback on moble devices with the lowest battery drain. Plus meeting low energy requirment on tv/monitors.
[15:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Hardware - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:45] <exec> 08└─New mobile devices are packing ever faster GPUs and often quad- and octa-core processors. Google may have had some more success with hardware acceleration than VP8: [theregister.co.uk] The VP9-smitten engineer says google's codec becomes more efficient for larger file sizes and points out that more...
[15:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03beardedchimp [393] (Score:1) 02Re:Hardware - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 827 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:47] <exec> 08└─Hardware decoding is a chicken and egg problem, it won't arrive if there is no content and no content will be produced without widely available hardware support. Googles solution is to leverage youtube so that huge quantities of vp9 arrive on mass. Youtube can then offer fallback to lower resolution...
[15:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03beardedchimp [393] (Score:1) 02Perseus Looks Dangerous - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:49] <exec> 08└─I'm a bit worried about Perseus. With vp8/9 we have finally started to move away from the patent minefield that is h264. I couldn't find anything on V-Novas about how they are achieving these new bitrates. It all smells very proprietary and reeking of vendor lock in. Anyone know if there is a refere...
[15:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymore. - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 1380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:50] <exec> 08└─I applaud NETVC and a few others for trying to do what major standards bodies refuse to do, which is create open standards that anyone can implement without licensing patents. I question that it's possible these days. While NETVC is being designed to use only code that is either not currently direct...
[15:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:59] <exec> 08└─Exactly. But hey, I'd be happy if even $1000 had to be payed directly by the offending officer - dock their pay if they don't have it on hand. It would be nice if people were compensated for their abuse, but the ultimate goal should be *stopping* that abuse in the first place, and that requires hold...
[15:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:01] <exec> 08└─It changes the economics of the situation. If police continue to do this so that a photographer gets $15,000 every time their cheap camera is seized or destroyed, this is going to unleash some very interesting dynamics.
[15:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:02] <exec> 08└─Taxes most likely. And jail is also paid for by taxes. So either way it comes out of our pockets. I'd prefer that the officer is directly fined for damages. Money loss is a better deterrent.
[15:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02The whole idea fails unfortunately - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:04] <exec> 08└─The whole idea, unfortunately, fails. The new law is unlikely to ever be enforced, for all the same reasons that the many already existing laws on the books will not be. Prosecutors are deathly afraid to offend the police. If they were not, there would be no need for this law, prosecutors would *alr...
[15:36:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 892 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:06] <exec> 08└─The reason it's not redundant is that crooked cops will use other laws (e.g. wiretapping) as an excuse to arrest the person making the recording and seize the device with the incriminating-the-police recording, and once the case is thrown out by a court (as it always is) the recording has been myste...
[15:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:07] <exec> 08└─Indeed, this law really ought to be redundant, as, unless there's a prior law that explicitly permits officers to curtail recording and/or confiscate equipment, it's never been permitted. If there is such a law, then alongside the introduction of this new law, the old law should be repealed. Lack of...
[15:36:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Not enough - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:10] <exec> 08└─If it's 15K taken out of that cops pay, it is more than sufficient. But it's probably 15k taken out of the taxpayers money, in which case almost no amount is enough, and any amount is pretty much punishing the wrong people.
[15:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Not enough - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:12] <exec> 08└─$1M from the police department funds, $100K from the violating officer himself, and throw out any current cases that officer is involved in. The first makes the rest of the cops stop wanting to cover for you, the second gives a measure of personal responsibility, and the third makes the DA and the r...
[15:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:extrOverted - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:26] <exec> 08└─Typing extrOversion into wiki redirects me to extrAversion...
[15:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:extrOverted - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:28] <exec> 08└─Don't spoil my tricks to be proven correct at the end of the day :)
[15:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:WRONG!!! - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:30] <exec> 08└─Ah, in that case disregard the statement: "..our research suggests that you're probably more normal than you think."
[15:36:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Interesting) 02It's a not a clear distinction - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 883 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:32] <exec> 08└─Most people do best with some time with others, and some time alone. The idea that there was some sort of difference was created more-or-less whole cloth by Carl Jung: Sure, some people do better with more alone time, and some do better with more social time, but in general too much of either is unh...
[15:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's a not a clear distinction - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:33] <exec> 08└─but in general too much of either is unhealthy.
[15:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02radioactive yen - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:47] <exec> 08└─quick and dirty calculation (0.15 cents per kwh): 1 GW x 24 h x 365 days x 0.15 cents = 1'314'000'000 dollars per year a dirty and dangerous monument that will outlast the great pyramids and paid for by you!
[15:36:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Insightful) 02"finally admits" - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:48] <exec> 08└─This is a obscenely dishonest and hysterical headline (inherited from Global Voices BTW). I can't be bothered to look, but I believe we have TEPCO "admitting" meltdowns from before the first half of 2011. Holes and fractures in the concrete base of the reactor building also means that groundwater co...
[15:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:How does one have a *mandatory* *preference*? - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:04] <exec> 08└─I hereby mandate you to prefer clippy.js [smore.com](javascript required) [noscript version: animated clippy and friends in js]
[15:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:I live in California - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:16] <exec> 08└─Many also perished in the great stagflation of the Reagan years.
[15:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I live in California - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:20] <exec> 08└─An "ice age" only lasts until all the glaciers melt. The two phases of ice ages are glaciation and interglacial. We're in an inter-glacial period now. When people hear the word "ice age" however they think of "glaciation".
[15:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:25] <exec> 08└─Fucking would count as shooting, eg, shooting it all over her back or face.
[15:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Denial & the effects of PR spin - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:29] <exec> 08└─That's some serious self-denial right there; let me know when you figure out how absurb that notion is and that we're all in this together, for whatever "this" turns out to be.
[15:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:They could not hit a better target... - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:43] <exec> 08└─"Microsoft free"? As in, pirated? Yeah, all but two of my MS OS's were "free". I actually paid for a copy of Win ME for the kids, and the wife paid for a copy of XP when she built one of her computers. Oh - make that three. The wife recently built another computer, and paid for the Win7 disk to inst...
[15:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02WTF? Just say "NO!" - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:54] <exec> 08└─Some arrogant bastard waltzes in through the doors, and wants to count your computers, and your licenses? Tell him bluntly, "GTFO, and don't let the door hit you in the ass!" What next? I buy a new Ford, and the salesman comes to the house a year or two later, to see how many cars I have?
[15:39:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ox0000 [5111] (Score:1) 02Re: Filter error: Please enter a Subject. - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:01] <exec> 08└─But it's not the person publishing/removing the canary, it's the company... oh wait... those are people too... Well, I guess they'll just have to throw the company in prison.
[15:39:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Only solution - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 1026 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:05] <exec> 08└─There's only one solution: Make sure that when you get a gag order, you do not possess any useful information that you might hand over, or the ability to gain that information in any way. Then you don't need a warrant canary, since a gag order doesn't do any harm. This especially means: Do not produ...
[15:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Re:is this important? - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:22] <exec> 08└─I wanted to keep it simple. Fact is, caps react quite differently, since there's no chemical reaction going on inside which has a reaction rate limit (which is what gives rise to internal resistance as you try and pump more energy into it over a shorter period of time). Of course, it's still a real...
[15:39:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Awesome for Obama! - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:34] <exec> 08└─My electrically powered hovercraft is full of eels.
[15:39:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Badly written sentence - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 2031 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:40] <exec> 08└─Yes, he did mean something different. If you make a graph of stored charge vs output voltage you'll get a perfectly straight line from the origin out to the rated max voltage of the capacitor. The slope of this line is so perfectly predictable that it's considered a fundamental characteristic of the...
[15:40:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:40:38] <exec> 08└─it means you are allowed to compete against others regardless of superficial characteristics, but if any of your traits objectively impact your ability to perform
[15:40:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:40:49] <exec> 08└─Here is the distinction: Are you making a personal profit utilizing a publicly provided service? Yes (aka Business): serve the public as a whole. No (aka Private Home): be a bigot as much as you want.
[15:40:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The difference is - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:40:52] <exec> 08└─This may make me unpopular, but I think the freedom to chose, for any reason at all, with whom you do business should be the overriding freedom for private businesses
[15:41:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03CRCulver [4390] 02Re:Option for people with Debian OS - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 1769 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:21] <exec> 08└─I don't think Devuan is ever going to pick up steam. They made some bad decisions early in the project that might have crippled them for good: an ugly website, a name that unfortunately evokes derision among North American users, and they continued to release English-language publicity in ungrammati...
[15:41:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kaszz [4211] 02Re:Option for people with Debian OS - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 283 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:23] <exec> 08└─Declining help seems like a really bad decision when it's that obvious. Is there any other specific decisions that may have destroyed the project? What alternatives to Debian and Devuan are there? (the question one might ask is where the systemd buck stops - preferably the hard way)
[15:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:47] <exec> 08└─I was in a rush typing those replies while at work. I was a bit rude and blunt when I said worthless, that I apologize for. See your wrong there as well. The left is fond of saying the wars in the middle east are about oil. But they never were. Afghanistan and Iraq were never significant historical...
[15:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Distraction from Domestic Issues - 06UK Spied on Argentina About Falkland Islands - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:49] <exec> 08└─Make no mistake, it wasn't to uphold any democratic principle, it was just to show that those who have the big guns make the law and you don't fool around the big boys and leave unscathed.
[15:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Yep, plenty more. :-( - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:27] <exec> 08└─International relations are not based on holding hands around a campfire singing Kumbaya.
[15:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Guess how you look to me. - 06Searchable Snowden Surveillance Archive - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:30] <exec> 08└─I'm the sort of person who believes in American values as embodied by the Constitution. You are the sort of person who bootlicks.
[15:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:03] <exec> 08└─I'd like to somewhat disagree with you. While yes, we are not a christian theocracy, our government has enacted laws shaped by the christian religion.
[15:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:52] <exec> 08└─I already stated my argument before; you want me to repeat it constantly for you people? Believing in something without a shred of evidence of irrational. There is no evidence for the existence of magical sky daddies or supernatural garbage, so rational people will lack a belief in such things. Next...
[15:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why should a man have to trust her? - 06The Perfect Birth Control for Men Is Here. Why Can't We Use It? - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:07] <exec> 08└─Um, the man is not at risk of being fired from his job for missing work to give birth, nor at risk of complications during pregnancy and birth.
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[16:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hardware - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:36:03] <exec> 08└─As soon as we have a codec with sufficient quality, we no longer will need updates. Just as we no longer get new audio codecs because those we already have are good enough.
[16:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Perseus Looks Dangerous - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:36:05] <exec> 08└─It is proprietary. The info released about it isn't clear yet. For example conflicting rates of 4 or 7-8 Mbps for 4K streaming. At the least it seems to compress video to half the size of H.265.
[16:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:36:08] <exec> 08└─I'm fairly sure almost all the patents related to MPEG-1, H.-261, and MPEG-2 have expired. Wikipedia seems to agree with me: http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[16:36:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Translation Error [718] (Score:1) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:36:22] <exec> 08└─From the bill: A person who lawfully records an incident involving a peace officer, and has that recording destroyed by a peace officer, or a peace officer seizes the recording without receiving permission from the person to seize it or without first obtaining a warrant, has a private civil right of...
[16:36:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Not enough - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:36:32] <exec> 08└─", and throw out any current cases that officer is involved in." That is a horrible idea. What if a murderer or rapist goes free and strikes another victim because of this?
[16:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Not enough - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:36:33] <exec> 08└─What if a dirty cop goes free to murder more people because we don't have this?
[16:36:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Business as usual... either way - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:35] <exec> 08└─If it passes: "a person lawfully recording" will not apply, because the second an officer chooses to disengage from an incident to deal with a photographer, that photographer is interfereing with an investigation. The mistake is to assume they currently persecute lawful photographers, obviously they...
[16:36:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a not a clear distinction - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:36:56] <exec> 08└─About the only point of the distinction is to attempt to train people to not be offended if somebody wants some alone time, or ... to socialize
[16:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Steve Hamlin [5033] (Score:1) 02Re:PHB and MBA free zone plz? ;) - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:11] <exec> 08└─No bean counters at all means the only commerce that exists is real-time bartering of goods and services, wealth must be stored in land and physical objects, and human effort is not allocated very efficiently. No thank you.
[16:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] (Score:2) 02Re:radioactive yen - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:14] <exec> 08└─So what is it that you are calculating?
[16:37:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:"finally admits" - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:17] <exec> 08└─The most interesting part about that whole disaster to me: Given what I know now, which is quite a few orders of magnitude less than what a nuclear engineer knows, I see everything that has happened as logical and predictable from the situation on day 1. On March 12, the right guy could have drawn a...
[16:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Horrible, horrible article - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 3889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:19] <exec> 08└─I don't even know where to begin to explain everything wrong with the linked article. The Fukushima Daiichi reactor problems were (and are) very serious, but WOW, talk about scaremongering, misinformation and BS sprinkled with a few half-truths and incomplete facts. Someone has an agenda, for sure....
[16:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF? Just say "NO!" - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:22] <exec> 08└─That's just it though: You buy the Ford, you license Microsoft software. Microsoft has business agreements with companies, and if those companies violate those agreements, Microsoft feels they have the right to enforce them. I'm not saying I agree; I really wish Microsoft would finish what they star...
[16:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:Dust and water at site perhaps is a cancerogen? - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:49] <exec> 08└─I've been there and I'm perfectly fine. *twitch* :)
[16:41:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NCommander [2] 02Re:Option for people with Debian OS - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 2043 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:57] <exec> 08└─When Devuan got started, I dropped into their channel on Freedom to see what I could to do to help. I do not look forward to having to migrate my systems (or the SN servers) from Ubuntu, and if I had an easy option to remove systemd from the stack, I would take it. As such, I had both a professional...
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[17:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Difficulty is all relative: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:45] <exec> 08└─"But it's not difficult, really" For me, probably not. Yes, it's a lot of work (I started a GR course, while I was working full time and going to grad school part time. We lost two computer operators at work and I had to cover their shifts for a few weeks. I made a lot of overtime, but the sleep lac...
[17:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02N.J.Wildberger has related lectures - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:47] <exec> 08└─For great lectures pertaining to geometry and relativistic measurments you may also like to view some of Prof Wildberger's YouTube videos: WildLinAlg37: An elementary introduction to Special Relativity I [youtube.com] and Bats, echolocation, and a Newtonian view of Einstein's Special Relativity [you...
[17:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:01] <exec> 08└─I applaud NETVC and a few others for trying to do what major standards bodies refuse to do, which is create open standards that anyone can implement without licensing patents. I question that it's possible these days.
[17:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:The whole idea fails unfortunately - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:15] <exec> 08└─I haven't read the law but there is a huge clue that says it isn't going to work that way: attorney fees. Note that there is no mention of jail time. This sounds like they are creating a private __civil__ cause of action. No prosecutor involved anywhere. You get your camera trashed, go hire a privat...
[17:36:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:The whole idea fails unfortunately - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:16] <exec> 08└─Yep -- so I RTFA'd: The summary indicates: The bill creates a private right of action against a peace officer's employing law enforcement agency if a person records an incident involving a peace officer and a peace officer destroys the recording or seizes the recording without receiving consent or o...
[17:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:18] <exec> 08└─I agree with you, but I would bet that if a cop causes more than one of these bills (and remember, the attorney fee part will at least double that cost), or if the cops under a particular head cop are costing a ton of money, some people are going to get fired. They'll go from well compensated (good...
[17:36:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Business as usual... either way - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:31] <exec> 08└─Also; Cops break law. Citizen films it. Cops destroy evidence and pay $15k for the privilege. Cops goes free from the crime. Cheaper than most lawyers.
[17:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:extrOverted - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:48] <exec> 08└─We try to maintain the quoted portions of the source exactly 'as is' - and in this instance they chose the extraversion spelling which, at least according to some dictionaries and wikipedia, is an acceptable alternative spelling. However, neither of my spell checks (en.US and en.GB) accept extravers...
[17:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:WRONG!!! - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:52] <exec> 08└─I'm not surprised! I tried to add you as a friend, but I couldn't find your uid. I tried to open your User Info page [soylentnews.org], but doing that logs me out of the website. Spooky!
[17:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:PHB and MBA free zone plz? ;) - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:11] <exec> 08└─Nuclear power is great as long as no pointy haired bosses or bean counters are involved in any way..
[17:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Crossed the Pacific, and reached Canada - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah! And now I can find my maguro sashimi... in the DARK!
[17:37:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:"finally admits" - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 1248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:18] <exec> 08└─Just one point about the claim that "the molten fuel must continue to be cooled with water". It would imply to a casual or ignorant reader that the fuel is still molten - giving them an image of a mass of white hot radioactive liquid metal swilling around and trying to get out. That's bollocks of co...
[17:37:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03drussell [2678] 02Horrible, horrible article - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 3889 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:20] <exec> 08└─I don't even know where to begin to explain everything wrong with the linked article. The Fukushima Daiichi reactor problems were (and are) very serious, but WOW, talk about scaremongering, misinformation and BS sprinkled with a few half-truths and incomplete facts. Someone has an agenda, for sure....
[17:37:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Horrible, horrible article - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:22] <exec> 08└─Well. I feel much better from this explanation. I certainly feel less nervous now, about the possible meltdown of the Hoover dam or the Ivanpah solar farm.
[17:38:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I inhaled the vapor. - 06Thousands Visit Trinity Test Site for 70th Anniversary of First Atomic Blast - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:38:40] <exec> 08└─In a small room, the vapor from just one drop will kill you. The symptoms I experience are specifically those of childhood mercury vapor inhalation poisoning. The rest of my family experienced neurological symptoms as well.
[17:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Scientology - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 1167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:43] <exec> 08└─Christianity? I'm thinking of sodomy laws in certain US states which while no longer effective, were only a short time ago. There's Alan Turing in the UK, surely you've heard of his ordeal. Apostasy laws in many Muslim countries that can get you killed, which is arguably worse than being imprisoned....
[17:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Scientology - 06First Church of Cannabis is Approved in Indiana - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:45] <exec> 08└─Just so it is clear -- feticide laws are a by product of the pro-life movement which is almost entirely religious in origin. The Christian Church in America doesn't need it's own prisons because it has access to the state funded prison network.
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[18:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:1) 02Yes - 06Duke Engineers Claim to Control Gene Activation/Deactivation - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:54] <exec> 08└─Yes, I would consider it genetic engineering. However, I don't see the ethical problems inherent to adding and subtracting pieces from an existing genome. If I'm not mistaken, we naturally perform this process every day. However, I am absolutely not an expert and I may be missing something crucial,...
[18:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06Duke Engineers Claim to Control Gene Activation/Deactivation - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:35:55] <exec> 08└─The trick, of course, is that environmental conditions already do this in less controlled, if more natural, ways. It's a bit like worrying whether your fan is going to make raindrops fall in unnatural spots if you turn it on in a thunderstorm. Treating this like any other medical practice, where eac...
[18:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Ethical issues?? - 06Duke Engineers Claim to Control Gene Activation/Deactivation - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:58] <exec> 08└─I don't see any ethical issues inherant to any form of medicine, including those involving genes. I think that anyone who advocates not eliminating pain and suffering where we have the technology to do so has no better system of ethics than someone who goes around causing pain and suffering directly...
[18:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Difficulty is all relative: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:36:06] <exec> 08└─Well, I'd expect the "mathematical maturity" of typical readers of this site to be above average. At least if you exclude the trolls.
[18:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Pedantry is not: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:36:08] <exec> 08└─But it's not difficult, really. Only lots of hard work, but not difficult. Merriam-Webster: Difficult [merriam-webster.com] not easy : requiring much work or skill to do or make
[18:36:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02How I think of it - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 5192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:10] <exec> 08└─Here's how I think of relativity, most of which comes (IIRC) from Brian Greene's Fabrice of the Cosmos, and might be subject to my faulty memory. Imagine a field, and imagine you want to find a way to be able to specify the locations of objects in a field (let's say there's a tree and a rock). A gri...
[18:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02you must learn differential geometry - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:12] <exec> 08└─No, you must RETAIN differential geometry. That's the problem with casually being interested in math. I love d.g. and topology, but I don't have the time to study it at the level I'd need to learn it to be any good at it. This kind of math needs deep immersion to develop any facility with it. These...
[18:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:36:26] <exec> 08└─Which is great, and in theory all the patents covering the very basics of a codec should be expired. That said, MPEG LA's list of CURRENT patents [mpegla.com] that make up their portfolio stretches to 83 pages. That's a LOT of active patents, and I'd wager if they wanted to go to war with a competin...
[18:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:36:28] <exec> 08└─"most of their patents are form ~1993, so they expired a couple years back." Now, if only Software Copyright worked like that . . .
[18:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:36:40] <exec> 08└─I'd prefer that the officer is directly fined for damages. Money loss is a better deterrent. If a person drives a forklift for a living and they hit someone they aren't (generally) personally liable. The police definitely need a good reigning in but the same general concept should apply. Kee...
[18:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:The whole idea fails unfortunately - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:36:44] <exec> 08└─A good correction, but unfortunately the idea still fails. Even without the prosecutor involved, courts are still loathe to mess with police, but even if it works perfectly as written, so what? The award comes out of the taxpayers pocket, not the offenders. And if you think a $15k judgement will get...
[18:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Or, glass half empty... - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:00] <exec> 08└─New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police
[18:37:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Re:Flamebait title - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 186 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:36] <exec> 08└─Did you try reading the summary? With your eyes? Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) confirmed on Thursday [...] that nearly all fuel [...] has melted and fallen into the containment building.
[18:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Crossed the Pacific, and reached Canada - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 1182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:44] <exec> 08└─While true news like linked in your post is sadly not understood by most people. Isotopes are wonderful stuff for detecting even the smallest effects. It is not good or bad that the cesium is detectable in Canada. I would say its fairly normal and expected. I do not work with Cesium, but are more fa...
[18:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03kbahey [1147] (Score:2) 02Re:Crossed the Pacific, and reached Canada - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:46] <exec> 08└─Not only me. The article itself is non-alarmist as well, and says that the levels are perfectly safe. The reason I posted it is that it is relevant to the event at hand, and also confirms that there is some radiation leak despite the denials prior to the article.
[18:37:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:radioactive yen - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:49] <exec> 08└─The cost of the electricity that the plant isn't producing anymore? Not sure what his point is either, as undoubtedly the cleanup cost orders of magnitude beyond that.
[18:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Horrible, horrible article - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 1810 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:55] <exec> 08└─Different power sources have different modes of collapse. E.g., the Hoover Dam has two possible modes of collapse: 1) The lake behind the dam fills up with silt, and the dam becomes useless. 2) The dam breaks, and floods the downstream area with an immensely destructive flood. 2a) Well, the da...
[18:38:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02How does one have a *mandatory* *preference*? - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 156 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:09] <exec> 08└─Of course, of course, I *prefered* LibreOffice, as I am *mandated* to do. However, it didn't have that nice paperclip feature, so I chose MS Office instead.
[18:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:they might get more interesting results... - 06What Do Americans Really Think About Climate Change? - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:38:35] <exec> 08└─Frankly it doesn't matter what the most highly educated and informed experts think for the same reason.
[18:39:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 804 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:39:56] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah, well, I've "repaired" some government PCs and seen the blank warrants ready for cops to print out as many as they want, pre-signed, some even with boilerplate arrest language like, "When I approached the vehicle I smelled the presence of alcohol", just to be sure the cop doesn't forget to i...
[18:40:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Only solution - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:40:15] <exec> 08└─What about storing any necessary data on a 3rd party site in some other country?
[18:40:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Badly written sentence - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:40:49] <exec> 08└─Thank you for the clarification, I admit my original post was lacking. I was recalling the major takeaway from a presentation from Dennis Corrigan, so my memory of the finer points may be flawed. From the abstract it looks like this paper covers the topic if anyone is interested (although it is payw...
[18:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:24] <exec> 08└─Right. Christian prayer totally has nothing to do with deities.
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[19:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:1) 02Re:Ethical issues?? - 06Duke Engineers Claim to Control Gene Activation/Deactivation - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:56] <exec> 08└─I'm curious, would you consider it to be less pain and suffering for an individual to be born smart and attractive? Because I think some would, which would seem to make it an attractive option from the words which you have written.
[19:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Re:Ethical issues?? - 06Duke Engineers Claim to Control Gene Activation/Deactivation - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:57] <exec> 08└─I believe there is evidence that early psychological and physical abuse leads to changes in the epigenome which can be later inherited by offspring of multiple generations, and can influence the personality, tendency to violent behaviors, and such of both the abused and the abused offspring. (e.g. h...
[19:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Re:Ethical issues?? - 06Duke Engineers Claim to Control Gene Activation/Deactivation - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:58] <exec> 08└─Damn; the sentence got mangled. Editing ability would be cool...if it can cost karma. In any case, I think my point was clear overall.
[19:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Difficulty is all relative: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:09] <exec> 08└─Hey! We ACs must work bloody hard at math & science stuff so our trolling can look semi-plausible.
[19:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Difficulty is all relative: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:11] <exec> 08└─I disagree. I took and passed a differential geometry decades ago, and still can't really wrap my mind around "Well, yes, the manifold is bent, but not in any direction." I find it much easier to accept that "It's bent in the (n+1)th dimension".
[19:36:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Difficulty is all relative: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:12] <exec> 08└─Your problem is the word "bending". The spacetime is not bent, it is just curved. Maybe the following example helps: Imagine you're measuring a plane with rods. Now the plane is hotter at some area, and therefore the length of the rods increases due to thermal expansion. And this causes you to measu...
[19:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Difficulty is all relative: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:14] <exec> 08└─The problem is the example given by all the lets-get-youngsters-interested-in-physics demonstrations where they plop a heavy ball in the middle of a rubber sheet, and then roll another ball past it. Worst of all is if the rubber sheet has grid-lines, as you then get deceived into thinking they repre...
[19:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:How I think of it - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 1904 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:16] <exec> 08└─Well, the main problem of your post is that you described special relativity, while this story is about general relativity. In particular, in general relativity, spacetime is curved, therefore you'll no longer be able to get away with a simple axes grid. Think of the surface of the earth: You still...
[19:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:How I think of it - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:18] <exec> 08└─Dammit. Rookie mistake! For some reason I was thinking of GR being the general, broad one, and SR being the special one because it included gravity... For example, you'll find that the equator has a strange attractive force, since no matter where and in which direction you start, sooner or later yo...
[19:36:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:you must learn differential geometry - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:20] <exec> 08└─"No, you must RETAIN differential geometry." Exactly. It's been 20 years since I've used that and taking a look at an advanced text is like being a stroke victim. You can kinda sorta remember it, but being able to actually use it again takes a lot of rehabilitation.
[19:36:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:37] <exec> 08└─Now, if only Software Copyright worked like that . . .
[19:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:51] <exec> 08└─If a person drives a forklift for a living and they hit someone they aren't (generally) personally liable. The police definitely need a good reigning in but the same general concept should apply.
[19:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:52] <exec> 08└─Any cop who intentionally seizes/destroys my personal property in order to cover up their misdeeds, should indeed face personal liability. Well now you are talking about intent, conspiracy and the ciminal justice system. Those are very different things with different punishments and evidenciary...
[19:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:The whole idea fails unfortunately - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:58] <exec> 08└─They'll just need to confiscate more stuff that they think may be the fruits of illegal activity (so-called civil forfeiture) in order to recoup their losses. That camera looks valuable...
[19:36:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:The whole idea fails unfortunately - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:00] <exec> 08└─I agree that the officers should face personal consequences, but the flip side of that is that if the officer is judgment proof, and the law did not specifically say you can sue the police department, it might actually be weaker because you couldn't collect anything. Plus without the law, their woul...
[19:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:The whole idea fails unfortunately - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:02] <exec> 08└─The whole idea, unfortunately, fails. The new law is unlikely to ever be enforced, for all the same reasons that the many already existing laws on the books will not be. Prosecutors are deathly afraid to offend the police. This bill allows citizens to sue directly over infractions. No prosecutor...
[19:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Not enough - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:13] <exec> 08└─That's why you hire the most expensive lawyer known to man, silly.
[19:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:1) 02Re:extrOverted - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:34] <exec> 08└─It does detract from the story when a 4th Grade spelling mistake is embedded in it. Would you correct a story that used "loose" instead of "lose"? There's a reason your spellcheckers don't accept it. It doesn't look right because it is, in fact, not right. I've never seen it spelled with an 'a'. As...
[19:37:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:PHB and MBA free zone plz? ;) - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 67 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:56] <exec> 08└─This is true in all forms of human activity, not just nuclear power
[19:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Crossed the Pacific, and reached Canada - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:03] <exec> 08└─I admit I may have responded to strongly and agree the article actually does actually a good job of explaining its not so worrisome. The measurement of Cs in water reminded me that after similar measurements of the atmosphere 2 years ago, some sites were claiming that Americans were already dying [n...
[19:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Horrible, horrible article - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:14] <exec> 08└─A dam failure will resemble the mass-murdering tsunami, not the non-murdering nuclear incident.
[19:38:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:How does one have a *mandatory* *preference*? - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:29] <exec> 08└─How does one have a *mandatory* *preference*? Easy, just call up the Purchasing department and ask them.
[19:38:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02The true reason - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:31] <exec> 08└─The true reason that they switch to FOSS is that they could no longer stand those Indian hotlines you get when calling the support number of proprietary software providers. ;-)
[19:40:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Australia Outlaws Warrant Canaries - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:40:19] <exec> 08└─Yet.
[19:41:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Badly written sentence - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:41:12] <exec> 08└─Well, people were fine for quite some time having quite a few kV in boxes in their living rooms.
[19:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:44:39] <exec> 08└─our government has enacted laws shaped by the christian religion.
[19:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:29] <exec> 08└─Grand majority != All
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[20:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I am skeptical of the safety - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:44] <exec> 08└─However I expect that will be extensively tested. I've never seen lithium burn but I have seen sodium burn. The flame was fairly sedate. When aluminum burns it is quite violent. Consider that thermite is a mixture of powdered aluminum and iron oxide. Aluminum wants to burn so very, very much that it...
[20:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:I am skeptical of the safety - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:35:46] <exec> 08└─I take it you've never incorrectly jumped a car(or seen it happen or heard about it, lest ya'll think I have). Batteries are dangerous piles of dense chemical energy.
[20:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03nyder [4525] (Score:2) 02Cool, get them out in the market then. - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:47] <exec> 08└─Let's get these things to the market then. We needed them yesterday.
[20:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Megahard [4782] (Score:1) 022-volt output - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:49] <exec> 08└─Not sure why they are down on this. All chemical batteries are in this range as it is the maximum redox potential of chemicals stable enough to put in a battery. The 12-V battery in your car is 6 2-V cells wired in series.
[20:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Energy density? - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:51] <exec> 08└─No figure was given in the video or write-up, even though positive comments were made pertaining to that aspect. Sounds like the techniology has potential - let's see a Tesla packed full of these, as that's the field where I think batteries are still massively lacking. Even if their no good for auto...
[20:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethical issues?? - 06Duke Engineers Claim to Control Gene Activation/Deactivation - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:02] <exec> 08└─What about if the treatments were developed and / or finally tested on animals? What about if those animals happened to be primates and what about if that included humans? If the tests were destructive or caused suffering, would you still see no ethical issues at all here? These issues may not be in...
[20:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Difficulty is all relative: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:17] <exec> 08└─Yes, that's indeed another problem; the rubber sheet is probably the most misleading "illustration" of GR in existence.
[20:36:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:Difficulty is all relative: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 3357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:18] <exec> 08└─It's very helpful to drum into your mind the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic curvature. What you're describing is extrinsic curvature, and I can easily get an n-d surface which has zero intrinsic curvature -- is a flat sheet -- and embed it in an (n+1)-d space in a horrendously contorted...
[20:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:How I think of it - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:24] <exec> 08└─Other way round, Special Relativity is specialised to the case where there is no gravity, and General Relativity applies in the general case where there *is* gravity...
[20:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:How I think of it - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:26] <exec> 08└─Broad as in undetailed.
[20:36:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:How I think of it - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:27] <exec> 08└─Well, the potential of the equator obviously is that of a harmonic oscillator: all orbits have the same period.
[20:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:you must learn differential geometry - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:30] <exec> 08└─I aced most things pure, but am a gibbering idiot in the face of an integral sign. Actually understanding D.G. and G.R. is out there in woo-woo never-gonna-happen land for me. (Strangely I found S.R. pretty easy, so I was quite frustrated when I realised I could never make the jump from the toy theo...
[20:36:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:you must learn differential geometry - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:31] <exec> 08└─It's all just differentiation though! Don't give up, it'll click into place. So long as you know a partial derivative (and the Greek alphabet), GR is not beyond you. And also don't worry; anyone who claims they understand intuitively what's happening in GR is a liar. We evolved to swing from trees,...
[20:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:13] <exec> 08└─If you are responsible for the officer, watching your budget fly away might make you think twice about shuffling the matter under the rug.
[20:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:extrOverted - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:47] <exec> 08└─this article [preludecharacteranalysis.com] and do a nice job discussing this [personalitycafe.com]. Basically, it sounds like extravert is the correct technical usage, while extrovert is fairly commonly used..
[20:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02The new warm, fuzzy M$ - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 1467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:39:33] <exec> 08└─To which "two steps forward" are you referring? their new friendly image ...because, with Windoze10, M$ is releasing whitebox makers from the requirement of users being able to toggle off so-called Secure Boot (actually, a lock-out mechanism for non-M$ OSes) in Setup and that is "friendly". ...becau...
[20:39:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The new warm, fuzzy M$ - 06Microsoft and Oracle Enforcers Clobbering UK Public Sector - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:39:34] <exec> 08└─Apparently you didn't pick up on the fact that I'm disgusted with them too. Sounds like you've got a hate-boner going on there that would make anyone not as vitriolic as you seem like a Ballmer-licking MS fan. "Their new friendly image" was sarcastic on my part, did that just fly right over your hea...
[20:41:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Exponential curves - 06Supercapacitor Energy Density Breakthrough—Almost as Good as a Battery - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:41:26] <exec> 08└─The systems that will be consuming this energy will be looking for a constant voltage. The discharge of a rechargeable battery (the power source this will be replacing) is pancake-flat until it falls off a cliff at the very end. Trying to replacing that with [E * (1 - T/tau)] is a really lousy fit....
[20:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Re:Option for people with Debian OS - 06Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd or LXQt - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:17] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a really odd decision. I mean really, when it comes down to it, most of the code is upstream, and a distribution pretty is it's package management system for the most part. Seems a bit like taking off the gas cap and driving a new car under it ;).
[20:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:46] <exec> 08└─Yes, and?
[20:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:02] <exec> 08└─what christians believe has nothing to do with this discussion
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[21:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:2-volt output - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:35:54] <exec> 08└─Presumably because the rapid charging that is the selling point requires being wired in parallel.
[21:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:2-volt output - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:35:55] <exec> 08└─Driving cells into reverse voltage during intense discharge and low charge state can generally be exciting in other battery families, its not necessarily just a charging "thing". I never fail to be amazed at power control electronics progress over the past couple decades, the star trek world of the...
[21:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Leakage? - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:35:59] <exec> 08└─> charging in 60 seconds If it self-discharges in a week, I don't want it. The aforementioned Tesla already needs a significant amount of juice to stay topped off overnight.
[21:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Look at whats not talked about - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:01] <exec> 08└─The topics not discussed historically were a problem for ionic aluminum batteries... corrosion, unused shelf life. Perhaps the electrolyte choice fixes that. In that case the real story is the new electrolyte not merely using aluminum as an electrode which is an old idea. Also lots of discussion abo...
[21:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Look at whats not talked about - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:36:02] <exec> 08└─I like the idea of using aluminum in a battery. It reminds me that aluminum powder is also the ingredient of choice when converting liquid mono-propellents like hydrogen peroxide into a gel.
[21:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethical issues?? - 06Duke Engineers Claim to Control Gene Activation/Deactivation - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:36:14] <exec> 08└─And a way to see what was there previously.
[21:36:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Difficulty is all relative: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:36:27] <exec> 08└─If we didn't, we'd ask for things like 7 non-intersecting, non-parallel red lines. [youtube.com]
[21:36:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02Re:Pedantry is not: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:36:29] <exec> 08└─However there is context. We are talking about relativity after all.
[21:36:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:Difficulty is all relative: - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:36:36] <exec> 08└─Well, isn't there a theorem that any curved space can be faithfully embedded i a space f sufficiently higher dimension, at least locally? I found it hard to get that it was a 3+1 metric, where some of the directions effectively contribute negatively to distance. -- hendrik
[21:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:How I think of it - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:36:43] <exec> 08└─Still not getting what can be special about the equator instead of any other great circle, if we're just talking about the Earth's surface as an example of curved 2d space. Only now you've mentioned orbits...
[21:36:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:you must learn differential geometry - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:36:49] <exec> 08└─Watching the first lecture now - he's a bloody excellent lecturer. Then again, that could be because I recognise everything from 25 years back. I'm not sure I could do the exercises though...
[21:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Misner, Thorne and Wheeler? - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:50] <exec> 08└─How does this compare with Misner, Thorne and Wheeler's book Gravitation? I remember many happy hours poring over that book in my parent's back yard long long ago.
[21:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 923 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:06] <exec> 08└─I did a little looking at this. MPEG-1 was finalized in 1992, which means all its patents should have expired in 2012. If implemented to spec, the sheer age of the thing would constitute a rather obvious prior art defense, and as it was released more than the lifespan of any patent, it should be fre...
[21:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:11] <exec> 08└─"It does work like that. Except that the time is much longer. But I can assure you, unless the law is changed again to extend copyright, your grandchildren will be able to use all the software of today for free." Certainly just like I can use Mickey Mouse created in my Grandfathers time. The blood s...
[21:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:12] <exec> 08└─It only takes one to ruin the other for everybody. Of course without copyright there would be no enforceable GPL.
[21:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And if you are extremely introverted ... - 06Extraversion May Be Less Common Than We Think - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:02] <exec> 08└─I have four people other than myself I socialize with
[21:38:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PHB and MBA free zone plz? ;) - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:34] <exec> 08└─And the fuck is that different to every other power generating tech?
[21:38:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Horrible, horrible article - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:51] <exec> 08└─Dam failure tends not to be an everyday risk, potentiated by operator error, etc.
[21:39:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:The original submission had 2 sections - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:39:05] <exec> 08└─Apparently, when NotSanguine edits, he doesn't pussyfoot around. Title changed; dept. changed; the 2 parts of the story (strictness vs laxity) mushed together. Maybe next time I should include only a link and let the editor take it from there.
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[21:40:18] <exec> 08└─In a small room, the vapor from just one drop will kill you.
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[22:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02will humans set foot on a plane piloted by humans? - 06Planes Without Pilots - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:43] <exec> 08└─Robots don't get depressed and crash into the Alps. Yet.
[22:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:will humans set foot on a plane piloted by huma - 06Planes Without Pilots - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:45] <exec> 08└─No doubt the first robotic piloting system will be named Marvin.
[22:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Re:will humans set foot on a plane piloted by huma - 06Planes Without Pilots - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:47] <exec> 08└─But robots do tend to have their AoA probes lock in place, which by a two-in-three tie breaker vote, can force an uncommanded dive straight into said mountain. It has happened [aviation-safety.net]. In fact, it seems to happen quite regularly [wikipedia.org]. In each case, it was the human pilots wh...
[22:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Not exactly a security professional - 06Planes Without Pilots - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:48] <exec> 08└─“Could we have a single-pilot aircraft with the ability to remotely control the aircraft from the ground that is safer than today’s systems?" asks Cummings. "The answer is yes.”
[22:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03gordo [1169] (Score:1) 02Re:I am skeptical of the safety - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:57] <exec> 08└─Probably true, yet you don't see this ever happen, because I imagine that it's not that easy to start an aluminum fire. Probably requires a huge amount of heat and energy to get it kicked off.
[22:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:2-volt output - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:02] <exec> 08└─FTFA :- "Apart from a low 2-volt output, "our battery has everything else you'd dream that a battery should have" Megahard wrote :- Not sure why they are down on this [the 2v output]
[22:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:2-volt output - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:04] <exec> 08└─You are a windbag and a bore. Be gone.
[22:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:16] <exec> 08└─I'm not arguing against Copyright. I'm arguing against the Continuous Copyright Scheme that Companies like Disney perpetuate. The problem is that a lot of Software will be lost due to stupid Copyright Legislation. There wasn't any Real possibility of saving Any Games Legally, before Gold Old Games....
[22:37:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:17] <exec> 08└─I take back that comment about how GoG started..., apparently I was talking out my badonkadonk.
[22:37:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Tramii [920] 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 195 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:32] <exec> 08└─If a person drives a forklift for a living and they hit someone they aren't (generally) personally liable. The police definitely need a good reigning in but the same general concept should apply.
[22:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:34] <exec> 08└─They newbie cop who is simply mistaken due to too much CSI will also be sanctioned for confiscating your phone.
[22:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - although this law is redundant - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:35] <exec> 08└─Your employer can dock your pay as a means of reimbursement. Side note: I am licensed to operate a forklift in NY and I can confirm that people do some really stupid things while operating them.
[22:37:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Not enough - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:58] <exec> 08└─I think morgauxo was only explicitly arguing against one part of your proposal, the part where we throw out all pending criminal cases the dirty cop had any involvement with. I'm sketchy on how that relates to the dirty cop getting free.
[22:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Not enough - 06New Bill in Colorado Would Protect the Right to Record Police - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:00] <exec> 08└─That is a horrible idea. What if a murderer or rapist goes free and strikes another victim because of this?
[22:38:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score:2) 02Re:"finally admits" - 06After 4 years, Japanese Power Utility Finally Admits Fukushima Meltdown - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:58] <exec> 08└─This is another abuse, here of the term, "disaster".
[22:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Great line from a Paul Newman movie - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:39:20] <exec> 08└─“Your Honor, with all due respect, if you're going to try my case for me, I wish you wouldn't lose it.” [google.com] If someone is going to edit my submission, how about not gutting the point I was trying to make by submitting it? -- gewg_
[22:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFY - 06Carly Fiorina Calls Apple's Tim Cook a 'Hypocrite' on Gay Rights - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:46] <exec> 08└─And there's no evidence for [x], so that too would be irrational.
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[23:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Re:will humans set foot on a plane piloted by huma - 06Planes Without Pilots - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:35:53] <exec> 08└─I think AI pilots can be very good. However, a pilot over-ride is necessary, and it must be a local hard over-ride. Why? Asshat hackers remotely taking over a plane. I am certain that will be the biggest danger.
[23:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not exactly a security professional - 06Planes Without Pilots - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:35:57] <exec> 08└─According to the article in the NYT, Mary Cummings is the director of the Humans and Autonomy Laboratory at Duke University and a former Navy F-18 pilot, who is a researcher on the Darpa project.
[23:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Re:Not exactly a security professional - 06Planes Without Pilots - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:35:59] <exec> 08└─Agree. Rando internet people have even argued that the missing Malaysian flight from last year was the result of hacking. http://beforeitsnews.com [beforeitsnews.com] Is it tr...
[23:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Re:Not exactly a security professional - 06Planes Without Pilots - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:36:01] <exec> 08└─wait nevermind. That website is crazy. Still. Cyber attack is not beyond the realm of believability, especially if pilots become remote AI.
[23:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OK, but who builds them? - 06Planes Without Pilots - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:03] <exec> 08└─I fired a guy that couldn't fix cars right, he went to work as an inspector at a nearby aircraft assembly company. In fact, we lost quite a few techs to them. Some came back telling me horror stories about how people would phuck up something while building the airplane, and call the inspector in for...
[23:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Re:OK, but who builds them? - 06Planes Without Pilots - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:36:05] <exec> 08└─So you are saying that AI should build planes too?
[23:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OK, but who builds them? - 06Planes Without Pilots - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:36:07] <exec> 08└─No, what I'm saying is "you get what you pay for". Sometimes anyway. They were looking for cheap labor.
[23:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02How about we go back to the 1900s? - 06Planes Without Pilots - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:10] <exec> 08└─And have doors that aren't bombproof, and improve security in the body of the plane? If the problem is a malicious insider hell-bent on killing everyone inside the plane, then a 2-in-the-cockpit rule is useless, the 2nd man in the cockpit will simply end up garotted before the rest of the chaos ensu...
[23:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I am skeptical of the safety - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:36:14] <exec> 08└─Iron oxide is a catalyst in that reaction - aluminum doesn't burn so readily without it. Powdered aluminum burns more readily than would a solid block - the surface area of a powder allows for lots of oxygen to get to the reaction. Solid aluminum will burn if it's melted (which requires quite a bit...
[23:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Leakage? - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:36:23] <exec> 08└─But even if it does discharge in a week, you can still have it filled in less time than grabbing a coffee. ie: it isn't relevant anymore. Or atleast it depends on the application. It's irrelevant if we talk cars or phones.
[23:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Power output - 06Stanford Claims New Battery Charges in 60 seconds - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:26] <exec> 08└─If you had a 2000 mAh 5V battery of this type, roughly that of an iPhone 6, that's 36,000 J of energy. To charge such a thing in 60 seconds would require power of 600 W. That's the sort of power rating one tends to associate with room air conditioners and other large household appliances. I imagine...
[23:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:1) 02Re:Ethical issues?? - 06Duke Engineers Claim to Control Gene Activation/Deactivation - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:36:40] <exec> 08└─agree
[23:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:1) 02Weapon - 06Duke Engineers Claim to Control Gene Activation/Deactivation - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:42] <exec> 08└─The idea of this being turned into a large scale biological weapon is very frightening, but otherwise it's fascinating and it has potential to create a whole world of new possibilities.
[23:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Misner, Thorne and Wheeler? - 06Differential Geometry + General Relativity Immersion Course - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:37:15] <exec> 08└─How does this compare with Misner, Thorne and Wheeler's book Gravitation? I remember many happy hours poring over that book in my parent's back yard long long ago.
[23:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:1) 02Re:Patent Unecumbered Isn't Really Possible Anymor - 06Google Claims VP9 Success as New Video Codecs Appear - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:37:40] <exec> 08└─Of course without copyright there would be no enforceable GPL.
[23:39:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Another emulation of M$ functionality - 06Government of India Adopts FOSS Preferred Policy - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:39:46] <exec> 08└─Linux Genuine Advantage(tm) [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [linuxgenuineadvantage.org] Once you've installed Linux Genuine Advantage(tm), you'll want to register and send in your licensing fees to receive these important benefits: - Your computer, which worked just fine before, will continue functi...
[23:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcm [4110] (Score:1) 02Gallery - 06Einstein or Marilyn? Optical Illusion hides two faces in one - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:03] <exec> 08└─From the same author, a few other pictures: http://cvcl.mit.edu [mit.edu]
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