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[22:59:08] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, matt_ ping
[22:59:15] <matt_> pong
[22:59:31] * NCommander is here, but vry tired ;.;
[23:00:06] <matt_> another exciting day on soylentnews (or are we soylent-news now?) ((what do you think of pipedot's scraping?))
[23:00:34] <NCommander> matt_, thinking we discuss tha a different day, I'm really fried
[23:00:39] <matt_> k :)
[23:00:48] * NCommander wants to solve the one major blocker, then discuss other stuff later
[23:02:33] <matt_> btw, i really liked your email describing next steps. there are certainly a lot of details to be fleshed out, but it seems like the core of a solid plan.
[23:02:40] <NCommander> matt_, if mrcoolbp is a noshow by 05/10 mintues
[23:02:47] <NCommander> I'm going to drop out
[23:03:03] <NCommander> matt_, thanks. Lets see if we can start the car now :-)
[23:03:33] <matt_> ok. i'm pretty open the rest of the week at this time.
[23:03:59] <NCommander> I am too
[23:04:01] <NCommander> theorically
[23:04:20] <NCommander> matt_, may require ringin my cell to raise e from the debates of undeath
[23:04:36] <NCommander> matt_, so if you see him around, call and we'll try and do this as a meeting without action
[23:04:37] <matt_> NCommander, i think mrcoolbp tried that last time, to no effect :)
[23:04:41] <NCommander> ... action w/o meeting
[23:04:48] * mrcoolbp is here
[23:04:54] <NCommander> yay
[23:04:55] <mrcoolbp> sorry
[23:05:16] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, NP, I've missed one of these before
[23:05:42] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: sorry you are late or sorry you are here :)
[23:05:46] <mrcoolbp> both?
[23:06:10] <NCommander> matt_, wis to chair
[23:06:36] <matt_> ?
[23:06:53] <mrcoolbp> he may have meant "whois"
[23:07:10] <NCommander> wish
[23:07:36] <matt_> oh. well, we've each had a go. mrcoolbp, do you want to give it a shot?
[23:07:41] <mrcoolbp> sure
[23:07:54] <mrcoolbp> Call to order the Action without a meeting
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[23:08:08] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, no, this is a schedued meeting
[23:08:10] <NCommander> no?
[23:08:20] <mrcoolbp> 1st Agenda item: Transfer of ownership
[23:08:23] <matt_> not until we get the bylaws amended...
[23:08:27] <matt_> NC^
[23:08:34] <NCommander> fun
[23:08:38] <NCommander> ok
[23:08:39] <mrcoolbp> who wants to start?
[23:08:51] <mrcoolbp> the floor is open
[23:08:58] <NCommander> I want to sell stuff
[23:09:01] <NCommander> ^- tat
[23:09:05] <NCommander> 8THAT
[23:09:09] <NCommander> of or the love of
[23:09:14] <NCommander> *o for the
[23:09:47] * matt_ seconds selling stuff
[23:09:57] * mrcoolbp thirds
[23:10:08] <NCommander> yay
[23:10:15] <NCommander> But ok, serious side now
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[23:10:39] <NCommander> I keep wondering if we're not overthinking this on a watchdog thing. if we, the board, go evil, the staff will desert us
[23:10:51] <NCommander> We already evicted one leader
[23:10:55] <mrcoolbp> agreed
[23:11:05] <matt_> NCommander, that went somewhat less than _smoothly_
[23:11:49] <NCommander> matt_, indeed, but thats because I asked Barrabas to privately check his math, then he decided I won't pay and opened it up tp the community
[23:13:11] <NCommander> I ust keep thinking about audioguys position
[23:13:30] <NCommander> I kow I meant to write this up as well, and I'm sorry for failing in that
[23:14:14] <NCommander> matt_, I don't want to kill this discussion until we have a properl resolution
[23:14:35] <NCommander> But at the very least, I'd like to allow the site to start making money and not be hamstrung on us giong in circles
[23:14:58] <NCommander> so if we defer the stock issuance, how badly does it get later?
[23:15:32] <mrcoolbp> good question, I don't understand the specifics of "it will get complicated to issue stock after we make money"
[23:15:52] <NCommander> right now, ownership really is only a problem with the CA
[23:16:11] <matt_> NCommander, to answer your question: we could open the store now.
[23:16:23] <matt_> NCommander, you're right, the CA is really the only major sticking point at this moment.
[23:16:31] <mrcoolbp> (and open subscriptions)
[23:16:33] <NCommander> matt_, we've gone thus far w/o
[23:16:37] <matt_> mrcoolbp, correct.
[23:16:47] <matt_> NCommander, it's a calculated risk on a few levels.
[23:17:22] <NCommander> matt_, risk to start selling stuff, or risk to issue stock later?
[23:17:35] <matt_> If either you or I go nuts in the interim, the site would have little recourse.
[23:17:57] <NCommander> matt_, I've been locked in 10 hours of meetings on this subject for the last two weeks
[23:18:17] <matt_> NCommander, well, also, if we did want to issue stock later, it could likely work out without much modification.
[23:18:45] <NCommander> matt_, if you go nuts, we need a new business guru, and if I go nuts, I'm not sure we're stable enough to survive the transition
[23:19:06] <matt_> NCommander, exactly :)
[23:19:23] <matt_> how badly do we need a wildcard cert?
[23:20:13] <NCommander> matt_, its blocking nexus support, i.e., meta.soylentnews.org.
[23:20:44] <NCommander> But we can active the feature, and disable the subdomains for now
[23:20:56] <paulej72> and would be nice to have for paypal payments
[23:21:01] <NCommander> Or accept users will get an SSL certificat error on nexuses, SSLis wonky on the site
[23:21:26] <mrcoolbp> so it's definate nice-to-have, but not absolutely necessary
[23:21:51] <NCommander> bingo
[23:22:04] <NCommander> we've wanted it for a few months now
[23:22:15] <matt_> NCommander, we could do a separate agreement just to enable that, but that kind of gets into the "patchwork of separate agreements" thing i mentioned on that wiki page i made about our different options...
[23:22:35] <NCommander> matt_, well, even as we're setup you couldn't get a wildcard
[23:22:44] <NCommander> due to the fact WHOIS stuff is fucked up
[23:22:51] <matt_> yeah, we would have to fix that.
[23:22:53] <mrcoolbp> You two both offered to donate your assets to the Corp, is that still an option
[23:22:55] <mrcoolbp> ?
[23:22:59] * NCommander is
[23:23:01] <matt_> that is an option.
[23:23:06] <NCommander> won't speak for matt_ though
[23:23:14] <paulej72> need to transfer domain to out Gandi account
[23:23:18] <mrcoolbp> I'm sure we could work on paying you back eventually
[23:23:27] <paulej72> our
[23:23:33] <NCommander> I'd like to propose one thing right now
[23:23:41] <NCommander> Can we open the store/subscription/other now?
[23:23:43] <NCommander> As a motion
[23:23:51] <mrcoolbp> okay
[23:23:53] <matt_> i'm ok with that.
[23:23:54] <mrcoolbp> sec
[23:24:20] <mrcoolbp> Move to vote on this, any seconds?
[23:24:27] <matt_> second
[23:24:27] <NCommander> second
[23:24:41] <mrcoolbp> Vote: Should we Open up the Soylent Swag Store and Subscriptions to all users?
[23:24:46] <matt_> Aye!
[23:24:49] <NCommander> aye
[23:24:49] <Blackmoore> aye
[23:24:52] <mrcoolbp> Aye!
[23:24:59] <NCommander> finally
[23:25:03] <NCommander> money plz
[23:25:04] <mrcoolbp> motion passes 0/0/3
[23:25:07] <matt_> yay!
[23:25:24] <NCommander> I'll take the action item to write up shit tomorrow with mrcoolbp
[23:25:27] <mrcoolbp> okay, I'll write up a post about the store and let NCommander post it maybe
[23:25:32] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, if you want to write up the store, I'll write up scripts
[23:25:32] <mrcoolbp> perfect
[23:25:35] <NCommander> er
[23:25:36] <NCommander> subs
[23:25:38] <mrcoolbp> yeah
[23:25:39] <NCommander> Post tomorrow
[23:25:42] * NCommander can't write now
[23:25:42] <mrcoolbp> that works
[23:25:45] <NCommander> will be gibberish
[23:25:55] <mrcoolbp> excellent
[23:26:06] <mrcoolbp> so any other items we'd liek to address now?
[23:26:25] <paulej72> do we want to keep subs at $20/year?
[23:26:26] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, yes, but its something I honestly can't keep my brain focused
[23:26:41] <NCommander> paulej72, that was what was proposed, so unless we got a good reason to change it
[23:27:23] <mrcoolbp> NCommander, paulej72, matt_ the other thing we discussed is having some kind of token-thing people could buy for $whatever dollars
[23:27:36] <mrcoolbp> like a super-star
[23:27:44] <mrcoolbp> or unobtanium sig or something
[23:27:46] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, thats something that could be rolled out later
[23:27:47] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: that is a subscription. lets not complicate this
[23:27:51] <mrcoolbp> okay
[23:27:59] <NCommander> We have a plan
[23:27:59] <NCommander> lets execute it
[23:28:09] <mrcoolbp> Sure!
[23:28:16] <NCommander> Lets not change it when the captain is almost literialy asleep at the switch
[23:28:39] <mrcoolbp> okay, so NCommander: are you moving to adjourn then?
[23:28:43] <NCommander> I am
[23:28:46] <NCommander> Sorry guys
[23:28:53] <NCommander> I really am struggling to stay up
[23:28:58] <mrcoolbp> I understand, I was like that yesterday night
[23:29:02] <NCommander> and if its another3 hour meeting, there might be blood
[23:29:12] <mrcoolbp> matt_: any final things?
[23:29:27] <matt_> this was the shortest board meeting i've ever had :)
[23:29:33] <matt_> that is all.
[23:29:39] <mrcoolbp> lol
[23:29:41] <NCommander> matt_, new policy, NCommander has to be half asleep for these
[23:29:41] <mrcoolbp> yes it was
[23:29:49] <mrcoolbp> okay, then I second NCommanders motion.
[23:29:52] <mrcoolbp> All in favour of adjourning?
[23:29:53] <paulej72> not enough time to get board :(
[23:29:57] <NCommander> We'll sell a book called "Sleepwalking to discuss"
[23:30:16] <NCommander> though if I wake up, and find this all to be a dream, you might hear a scream
[23:30:20] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, aye
[23:30:23] <mrcoolbp> aye
[23:30:25] <matt_> Aye!
[23:30:28] <NCommander> Great
[23:30:30] <NCommander> good night
[23:30:32] <NCommander> call me in emergneyc
[23:30:35] <mrcoolbp> okay, before we run off, should we schedule another....
[23:30:39] <NCommander> damn
[23:30:42] <mrcoolbp> lol
[23:30:44] <NCommander> I'm open ot anything
[23:30:46] <NCommander> Really
[23:30:52] <NCommander> So you two work it out, and post the time
[23:30:55] * NCommander is mr flexible
[23:31:02] <mrcoolbp> okay, we'll work it out
[23:31:04] <matt_> k
[23:31:09] <mrcoolbp> Go To Sleep NCommander
[23:31:09] <NCommander> yeah, you're the two work schedules
[23:32:16] <paulej72> I would suggest that you officially amend the bylaws to allow IRC meetings, I belive that it has been voted on, here, just not officailly ack in an email
[23:32:39] <mrcoolbp> matt_ do we need a seperate email for that ^ ?
[23:32:49] <mrcoolbp> I think it was attached to the stock thing...
[23:32:54] <matt_> paulej72, yes, it will require a signed document, which was circulated a while ago, but it was combined with stock stuff, so we will have to separate it.
[23:33:03] <mrcoolbp> ^ ah
[23:33:30] <audioguy> I'd like to personally congratulate the Soylentnews board on making a decsion of substance, in marked contrast to the usual vote to increase the coffee and dunuts fund by $5 for the next meeting which is the common behavior of boards. :-)
[23:33:46] <mrcoolbp> thanks sir
[23:34:20] <FunPika> .topic Everyone that doesn't have a voice or operator status in this channel: your messages will be forwarded to the channel ops (if there are none, feel free to PM an active user in the channel). | This channel is logged: http://logs.sylnt.us
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[23:34:40] <Blackmoore> damnit i wanted donuts
[23:35:36] <mrcoolbp> matt_ should we try for another meeting next week? Do we have any agenda items?
[23:35:53] <mrcoolbp> maybe two weeks, not sure
[23:35:59] <paulej72> 🍩
[23:36:11] <matt_> nothing on the list. we should revsit the wildcard cert issue, of course.
[23:36:40] <matt_> mrcoolbp, 1-1.5 weeks sounds reasonable, as it will give us a chance to discuss the store rollout, etc.
[23:37:55] <mrcoolbp> matt_, okay let's shoot for Wednesday night next week, same time?
[23:39:44] <mrcoolbp> I should get some rest, still recovering from a long weekend
[23:39:51] <audioguy> paulej72: I see a black box above, was that intended?
[23:40:06] <matt_> mrcoolbp, sounds good.
[23:40:07] <mrcoolbp> I see a donut
[23:40:25] <mrcoolbp> matt_ okay, would you send out a notification to staff-list?
[23:40:30] <paulej72> no
[23:40:35] <FunPika> i see a square with hex in it
[23:40:35] <paulej72> donut
[23:40:40] <audioguy> character set diference I guess. (on a mac here)
[23:40:49] <paulej72> copy paste
[23:41:31] <matt_> mrcoolbp, do you want to double-check with NC to make sure he is free at that time?
[23:42:11] <mrcoolbp> I think he just said:
[23:42:11] <mrcoolbp> [19:32] <+NCommander> I'm open ot anything
[23:42:11] <mrcoolbp> [19:32] <+NCommander> Really
[23:42:11] <mrcoolbp> [19:32] <+NCommander> So you two work it out, and post the time
[23:42:11] <mrcoolbp> [19:32] * +NCommander is mr flexible
[23:42:23] <matt_> ok. i'll send out the announcement.
[23:43:12] <mrcoolbp> thank you, we'll get the posts up tomorrow
[23:44:26] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: do we need to test someone actually paying for an Sub. or are we good to go?
[23:45:16] <paulej72> we need to test, but I need to finish the config first and start the services
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[23:47:13] <mrcoolbp> .topicappend | SoylentNews PBC Board of Directors Meeting will be held on Wednesday, September 3 at 23:00 UTC (7:00pm EDT) in this channel. All are welcome to attend
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