#soylent | Logs for 2024-05-12
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[06:08:28] -!- mode/#soylent [+v chromas] by Imogen
[07:29:26] <chromas> grumble grumble
[07:30:09] <chromas> updating arch, something wants to install gcc13, but it wants to install files owned by gcc12, which isn't even in the repo anymore
[07:30:25] <chromas> gotta figure out the incantation to find out who's even trying to install it
[07:33:11] <chromas> well it didn't seem to mind me just uninstalling gcc12. no dependencies I guess
[07:33:16] <chromas> stupid linux
[07:33:30] <chromas> just static link evrathang so there's no dependencies
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[08:28:41] <janrinok> update completed?
[08:42:50] <Ingar> user error
[08:43:12] <Ingar> most likely a partial update
[08:45:23] <Ingar> did not so no aurora though :(
[08:50:34] <chromas> Lots of people posted their aurora pics around here on the interwebze. pretty neat
[08:56:29] <Ingar> I put down a little ladder so I could peek through the roof window on the northern side
[08:56:42] <Ingar> turns out my neighbour has installed a giant floodlight
[08:57:05] <Ingar> good damn people with their fucking driveway floodlights
[08:57:13] <Ingar> s/good/god/
[08:57:26] <chromas> Need to make it easier for car jackers to see what they're doing at night
[08:57:36] <Ingar> if it persists tonight I might try a dark location
[08:57:59] <Ingar> chromas: well the car jackers would need to jump the fence and trash the gate first
[08:58:34] <chromas> You wouldn't want them doing that in the dark would you? That would be unsafe!
[08:58:38] <Ingar> and the municipality replaced the old street lights with LED
[08:58:41] <Ingar> even more light
[08:58:57] <Ingar> it's even an issue in my garden now
[08:59:22] <Ingar> good thing I like green things and my trees' leaves are hiding them a bit
[08:59:35] <chromas> Those LEDs are nice with their multiple slightly offset shadows and eye-raping brightness when you look at 'em
[08:59:38] <Ingar> anyway </rant>
[08:59:54] <Ingar> chromas: I hate the light spectrum , it feels like daylight
[08:59:55] <chromas> and sometimes the phosphor coating falls off and you get purple lights
[09:00:23] <Ingar> it instantly fucks up your circadial stuff
[09:00:39] <chromas> They need soft white
[09:01:24] <Ingar> before it was yellowish
[09:01:26] <Ingar> much better
[09:01:44] <Ingar> on the bright side
[09:01:56] <Ingar> got 44x5minutes of awesome pictures on M 101
[09:02:28] <Ingar> telescope mount doing a lot better since I tweaked it
[09:02:29] <chromas> Get yer ladder and mount your camera on top of the utility pole
[09:03:04] <Ingar> chromas: I'm considering attaching a long stick to a small plastic bathtub and use it as streetlight cover
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[10:07:00] <chromas> =quote
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[10:07:14] <chromas> =quote
[10:07:14] <systemd> Literally every character except a wise-cracking robot is gonna die in an explosion.
[10:07:29] <chromas> channel spamming bot nonsense
[10:10:07] <chromas> If we really want to bring the soy back to its former glory, we must erect moar bots, and abuse said erections
[11:19:29] <Ingar> back in the day, I ran a really mean HAL bot
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[17:01:24] <chromas> I think ciri was a HAL bot
[17:01:52] <chromas> Got banned from here when NC found out he was talking to a bot :D
[17:11:01] <AlwaysNever> Wild thought: is a personal web site behind ONLY v1.0 of TLS a ultra-secure, super-exclusive, web site? Script kiddies haven't got the ability to recompile OpenSSL to re-enable TLS 1.0, so there...
[17:12:26] <AlwaysNever> As more and more Linux distros ship with TLS 1.0 disabled, TLS 1.0 becomes more and more secure
[17:14:26] <chromas> There's probably some pre-made script on metasploit to break it, plus I thought TLS was to keep alphabettis and lawyers out
[17:15:38] <AlwaysNever> TLS 1.0 itself is not broked, is only "suspected to be easy to break", but there is not any proven breakage in TLS 1.0 as of yet, that I know of
[17:16:00] <chromas> NSA's not gonna tattle on itself
[17:16:59] * chromas invents squantum blockchain sockets
[17:17:34] <AlwaysNever> NSA would fuck me easy enough, if they wanted, without ever touching TLS at all
[17:17:36] <AlwaysNever> LOL
[17:17:59] <chromas> There's so many back doors, but that doesn't mean you want to lose any
[17:19:06] <chromas> maybe go back to ssl while you're at it
[17:19:38] <AlwaysNever> For al we know, NSA could be sitting on a crack for TLS 1.2, and none be the wiser
[17:22:28] <AlwaysNever> The upgrade from SSL to TLS 1.0 was significant, in thet TLS was put through the IETF while SSL was the work of Netscape alone
[17:23:02] <chromas> Maybe we can replace some other Netscape failures
[17:23:10] <chromas> cough.js
[17:43:15] <drussell> They're probably just trying to force-deprecate 1.0 because it doesn't have their backdoors in it. :)
[17:51:33] <AlwaysNever> drussell may be on to something there!
[17:55:27] <prg> careful that you don't have an unfortunate accident in the near future.
[18:00:23] <chromas> SoylentNews PBC shut down today when 100% of all the staff and other community members coincidentally died in unrelated plane crashes.
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[20:45:54] <Bytram> I'm stumped. I know that I'm close, but... Grrr! I am looking through a file w/ ~2900 lines. I am only interested in the lines that begin with these 6 characters: [info]
[20:47:47] <Bytram> the square brackets seem to be a big part of the problem
[20:50:31] <Bytram> grep "^[info]" foo
[20:51:20] <Bytram> returns the empty set. :/
[20:52:15] <Bytram> ditto for:
[20:52:30] <Bytram> grep '^[info]' foo
[20:54:53] <Bytram> What am I doing wrong? What is the "magic incantation"?
[20:55:51] <Bytram> Please ping me it you have it.
[21:01:26] <Runaway1956> I told them not to board that renamed 737 Max chromas, but they didn't listen to me!
[21:13:54] <prg> Bytram: '^\[foo\]'
[21:14:26] <prg> erm, or '^\[info\]' in your case
[21:16:09] <Bytram> Ooo! Obvious, *now*! TYVVM!
[21:18:22] <Bytram> Worked perfectly!
[21:22:20] <chromas> yep, gotta escape your control characters
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[21:49:35] <drussell> LOL, as soon as I saw the "^[info]" I was like, you forgot the \ haha
[22:10:48] <Bytram> Oh "wonderful". Had nearly finished debugging and then all my "term"s crashed. Oh well, it should be easier the second time... new word of course is "should". :^)
[22:10:57] <Bytram> break time
[23:45:12] <chromas> hmh, are there no 7950 amd gpus?