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[00:52:29] <bowlingb> hello all. So I have joined the team. i have some accumulated points from back in 2007. Will those apply to the team score?
[00:54:07] <bowlingb> It's only 15,000 or so but still.
[01:08:25] <Bytram|away> SirFinkus: Runaway1956: ^^^ questions that you might be able to answer?
[01:09:47] <Bytram|away> bowlingb: would appreciate the pts! Don't know if it is possible, but hopefully you'll have an answer before too long!
[01:09:53] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[01:13:02] <bowlingb> Bytram: happy to give them if it's possible
[01:14:30] <Bytram> I've no person experience with folding, but am a big cheerleader for our team... hopefully they'll be able to help.
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[01:51:54] <cmn32480> bowlingb - it looks like the points stay wiht the team they were earned under.
[01:51:55] <cmn32480> https://foldingforum.org
[01:51:58] <exec> └─ 13Folding Forum • View topic - Can I change my F@H username but keep my points?
[01:59:05] <cmn32480> mecctro - what are you running on?
[01:59:21] <mecctro> windows for this machine, sadly
[01:59:29] <cmn32480> hardware wise, I mean
[01:59:43] <mecctro> but I want to put my old "stone-soup" machine back up
[01:59:59] <mecctro> i7 3770k
[02:00:24] <mecctro> at least during the day when I'm working I let it chew the cpu.
[02:00:38] <mecctro> dual 650 Ti Boosts
[02:00:43] <cmn32480> hmmmmm
[02:00:46] <mecctro> when I pass out
[02:01:06] <mecctro> and you?
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[02:01:35] <mecctro> I was just about to let it chew 1 of the gpus while I work
[02:01:39] <cmn32480> the i7 should pull 3-9k ppd
[02:01:53] <cmn32480> my GTX970 pulls about 340k ppd
[02:03:12] <mecctro> Yea, the estimated PPD on the cpu is 9779
[02:03:34] <mecctro> I have no idea for the gpus
[02:04:22] <cmn32480> \if you select them in the advanced control panel it will tell you
[02:04:43] <cmn32480> the advacned control panel allows you to control multiple machines
[02:04:54] <mecctro> I meant more of an average of what they actually churn out after
[02:05:06] <mecctro> but they're around 40K a piece
[02:05:33] <mecctro> so something like 50 thousand total
[02:05:44] <mecctro> at least based on the estimates
[02:05:50] <mecctro> @ load
[02:06:12] <cmn32480> 40k each +10 K = 90k
[02:06:23] <mecctro> excuse me, need more coffee
[02:06:29] <mecctro> I stand corrected
[02:06:35] <cmn32480> is ok
[02:06:44] <cmn32480> 90k is excellent
[02:06:56] <mecctro> I'd love to see how slow this old RISC machine is lol
[02:07:08] <cmn32480> I have a celeeron that averages about 400ppd
[02:07:21] <cmn32480> note that there is no "k" in there
[02:07:29] <mecctro> I doubt the this AIX box gets 10
[02:08:07] <mecctro> neither that or the e-machines (RISC/PPC) boxes probably finish anything for over a day
[02:08:08] <mecctro> lol
[02:08:25] <cmn32480> my celeron doesn't
[02:08:36] <cmn32480> he does about 1 WU every 2-3 days
[02:08:49] <mecctro> oh yea, that's light years ahead lol
[02:09:21] <mecctro> maybe with my e-machine, 5 PPC cpus slotted, I could reach parity with the computational ability of an abacus.
[02:09:30] <cmn32480> using the advanced control panel you can see what each of the boxen is doing at any given time.
[02:09:40] <cmn32480> lol
[02:09:50] <mecctro> It's really THAT slow
[02:09:57] <mecctro> OS400, IBM box
[02:10:03] <mecctro> 1986
[02:10:44] <mecctro> I have a few "bull"s laying around as well from the 90s, all of my IBM boxes together wouldn't reach parity with more than a nokia cell-phone
[02:11:01] <cmn32480> dear god... OS400 from 1986...
[02:11:04] <mecctro> but they LOVE the juice (powa)
[02:11:12] <cmn32480> i can only assume that is what you have instead of a furnace in your home
[02:11:41] <mecctro> Oh, it would probably would better as a furnace than a server anymore
[02:11:56] <mecctro> I mostly just use it for tinkering, or if I have a call for IBM related support.
[02:12:06] <mecctro> same with my AIX boxes
[02:12:11] <cmn32480> I see
[02:12:32] <mecctro> I'd love it if this ran on RPI
[02:12:38] <mecctro> or does it?
[02:12:42] <cmn32480> RPI?
[02:12:48] <mecctro> Raspberry Pi
[02:13:36] <mecctro> wish I had some laying around for programming
[02:14:45] <cmn32480> I don't think so
[02:15:15] <cmn32480> the truth is, the FAH stuff gets the best value out of chips that are designed to crunh numbers
[02:15:19] <cmn32480> mostly GPU's
[02:15:28] <mecctro> What about APICs or similar?
[02:15:41] <mecctro> (Coin Miners)
[02:16:08] <mecctro> not that I have any
[02:16:36] <cmn32480> probably would work... but I don't know what OS they run
[02:17:00] <mecctro> I also wonder about the parallela, have you seen that thing?
[02:17:18] <mecctro> I'm not sure either, I know most are geared for no overhead
[02:17:22] <Bytram> mecctro: you mean ASICs?
[02:17:32] <Bytram> cmn32480: is all hardware... no program to run ,per se
[02:17:37] <mecctro> excuse me, that's what I meant.
[02:18:11] <mecctro> I was more interested in if the calculations for protein folding are similar to coin mining.
[02:19:00] <cmn32480> ahhh
[02:19:06] <cmn32480> I haven't the slightest idea
[02:27:33] <bowlingb> cmn32480: Thanks for the reply. Oh well.
[02:28:34] <cmn32480> is ok bowlingb, we love you anyway
[02:29:33] <mecctro> word up
[02:29:35] <bowlingb> thanks. all my new points will go to the team anyway. such as they will be.
[02:30:13] <cmn32480> all comers are appreciated
[02:30:27] <bowlingb> I have no idea what people are running to be getting the daily totals they are showing though.
[02:32:05] <bowlingb> the client is only predicting 4000 points per day or so
[02:33:00] <bowlingb> of course this is a laptop with the built in MB so no serious GPU
[02:33:43] <bowlingb> CPU Intel Core i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz
[02:33:53] <mecctro> that's probably about right then
[02:34:26] <cmn32480> i5 that si about right
[02:34:42] <cmn32480> my i7 does between 3000 and 9000
[02:34:49] <bowlingb> do you get the most bang for a standalone GPU card? Does the client make use of all the GPU resources?
[02:35:09] <cmn32480> all GPU's are standalone.. SLI/Crossfire is not supported
[02:35:19] <cmn32480> or, at least not utilized
[02:35:49] <bowlingb> fair point.
[02:36:47] <mecctro> I'd love to get my old phenom box churning, I could dedi it.
[02:36:55] <mecctro> crap card, though.
[02:37:01] <bowlingb> I meant the GPU on a standalone video card. Which is better supported, nVidia?
[02:37:29] <mecctro> I have no idea, but in either SLI, or split, both my cards work equally fine it seems.
[02:37:29] <cmn32480> I think that both work well... but the drivers seem to make a significant difference
[02:38:00] <mecctro> Do you know how performance is for AMD cards on Lin?
[02:38:09] <cmn32480> anecdotally... I updateed my nvidia driver to the newest version the other day, and my ppd on the GPU went up about 35k
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[02:38:33] <mecctro> sweet
[02:38:33] <cmn32480> no idead
[02:38:34] <bowlingb> UP by 35k?
[02:38:40] <cmn32480> UP by 35k
[02:38:43] <bowlingb> wow
[02:38:50] <cmn32480> I'm running a GTX970
[02:38:52] <bowlingb> what card are you running?
[02:38:56] <cmn32480> ninja'd
[02:39:01] <bowlingb> lol
[02:39:02] <mecctro> indeed
[02:39:20] <cmn32480> Runaway1956 has somethign recent as well.. but I don't know what the exact card is
[02:39:45] <bowlingb> yeah I was looking at his numbers and wondered what mainframe he was using.
[02:40:30] <cmn32480> i had a hiccup last week where my PC reboot4ed adn didn't reconnect o the network while I was out of town
[02:40:43] <cmn32480> so the averages on mine are skewed
[02:46:04] <bowlingb> cmn32480: The two of you are killing it.
[02:47:10] <mecctro> indeed
[02:49:43] <cmn32480> patience... and good hardware
[02:49:55] <cmn32480> I have 3-4 boxes runing
[02:50:02] <cmn32480> may i7 laptop on light
[02:50:04] <bowlingb> I remember running the client as a screensaver.
[02:50:32] <bowlingb> in fact that was the only client at the time.
[02:50:50] <bowlingb> it visualized some sort of protein folding
[02:50:57] <cmn32480> my desktop the GTX970 and AMD FX8530
[02:51:07] <cmn32480> on medium
[02:51:15] <cmn32480> a celeron that also runs exec
[02:51:22] <cmn32480> exec the bot, I mean
[02:51:40] <cmn32480> and an old R7 server at the office that is currently off because we are using it for testing
[02:52:00] <bowlingb> what is 'exec the bot'?
[02:52:01] <cmn32480> that sill exists
[02:52:10] <cmn32480> exec.... the IRC bot
[02:52:16] <cmn32480> ~gday bowlingb
[02:52:18] * exec hurriedly flings a wagon of windows xp at bowlingb
[02:52:27] <bowlingb> lol
[02:52:36] <cmn32480> he runs a shitton of commands around here
[02:52:40] <bowlingb> ~gday cmn32480
[02:52:42] * exec cohesively connects a jar jar of nasty v to cmn32480
[02:52:43] <cmn32480> some more useful then others
[02:52:54] <cmn32480> you win
[02:53:02] <cmn32480> ~folding-rank
[02:53:04] <exec> 07499
[02:53:15] <cmn32480> he has a ton of commands and macros
[02:53:21] <cmn32480> but I'm just his op
[02:53:22] <bowlingb> very cool
[02:53:27] <cmn32480> crutchy wrote him
[02:54:14] <cmn32480> he will allow you to submit stories by using a link
[02:54:23] <cmn32480> ~submit www.google.com
[02:54:25] <exec> error: title not found or empty
[02:54:27] <bowlingb> so that's how it's done
[02:54:36] <cmn32480> him or mrplow
[02:54:50] <cmn32480> ~submit http://www.google.com
[02:54:53] <exec> └─ 13Google
[02:54:53] <bowlingb> mrplow is another bot
[02:54:57] <cmn32480> correct
[02:55:22] <cmn32480> I'll delete that sub in a minute
[02:55:23] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
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[05:26:22] <SirFinkus> sorry Bytram|away bowlingb, I was away
[05:26:43] <bowlingb> no problem
[05:27:21] <SirFinkus> I don't believe you can transfer points after the fact
[05:27:33] <SirFinkus> in case that question wasn't answered
[05:27:39] <bowlingb> Yeah, it's looking that way
[05:27:58] <bowlingb> Even though they were in the WU pool
[05:28:16] <bowlingb> I'm not even sure there were teams when they were earned actually
[05:28:42] <SirFinkus> wow, you're an old timer in that case
[05:29:01] <bowlingb> The client was a screensaver if that tells you anything.
[05:29:23] <bowlingb> The server claims my last login was 2007
[05:29:24] <SirFinkus> naw, I think the current client is like that too
[05:29:41] <SirFinkus> better part of a decade
[05:30:00] <bowlingb> yup. CPU only at the time
[05:30:25] <bowlingb> As I recall anyway
[05:31:45] <SirFinkus> should have mined bitcoins instead, you'd be RICH
[05:32:09] <bowlingb> At any rate I joined the team and I'll just have to earn points moving forward.
[05:32:21] <SirFinkus> just rolling in coke and counterfeit bills
[05:32:28] <SirFinkus> appreciate it
[05:32:35] <bowlingb> Actually I did mine bitcoins early on when it first came out
[05:32:48] <bowlingb> and CPUs could handle the mining.
[05:32:58] <SirFinkus> I lost 11 buttcoins
[05:33:07] <SirFinkus> because I didn't back up my wallet file
[05:33:13] <bowlingb> oops
[05:33:21] <SirFinkus> at some point, I could have had like $11k
[05:33:52] <bowlingb> yeah there was a good peak at one point.
[05:34:36] <SirFinkus> we're making 725k ppd now, so 150k isn't such a huge deal
[05:36:22] <bowlingb> I didn't mine very much though, just enough to check out the idea. Sold most of them too early.
[05:37:07] <bowlingb> 725k ppd is pretty darn good.
[05:38:21] <bowlingb> looks like 815k yesterday
[05:39:34] <bowlingb> You can have more than one computer running on an individual account, correct?
[05:39:53] <bowlingb> brb
[05:43:04] <SirFinkus> yes bowlingb
[05:43:23] <SirFinkus> sorry, I have like 4 convos going on right now
[05:43:52] <bowlingb> no problem
[05:50:36] <SirFinkus> do you have a fancy GPU?
[05:50:55] <SirFinkus> if so, you can get a lot more PPD using that instead of the CPU
[05:51:02] <SirFinkus> but you can't run them concurrently
[05:58:50] <bowlingb> ah so only one client at a time
[05:59:39] <bowlingb> I have a mediocre GPU but it's still likely better than my laptop's CPU
[06:00:07] <SirFinkus> I'd try both (not at the same time) to see which works better
[06:03:21] <bowlingb> Makes sense to do so.
[06:09:21] <bowlingb> ~gnight #folding
[06:09:23] * exec slowly formulates a chest of windows xp for #folding
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[06:33:45] <mecctro> mmm just got pxe ready
[06:36:49] <mecctro> need a damn kvm one of these days
[06:37:27] <mecctro> playing keyboard hot potatoe
[07:29:19] <mecctro> and now a core2-duo
[07:29:26] <mecctro> hath been bumped in
[07:30:19] <mecctro> ultra-slow lol
[07:31:13] <SirFinkus> yeah, I've been there before
[07:31:20] <SirFinkus> the keyboard swapping
[07:31:45] <SirFinkus> or if you have two keyboards and it takes you a second to figure out which one to type on
[07:31:53] <mecctro> lol, yea that too
[07:32:25] <mecctro> I got like 2 more rigs I want to add
[07:32:49] <SirFinkus> noice
[07:32:49] <mecctro> too many damn keyboards, not enough damn keyboards. CMOS battery died, ram busted on another
[07:32:50] <mecctro> lol
[07:33:17] <mecctro> thank goodness pxe/tftp is done
[07:34:25] <mecctro> eww, the PPD is climbing
[07:35:35] <mecctro> too bad I don't have another mobo for my old athlonx3
[07:36:40] <mecctro> matter of fact, I think I have an old gtx 440 laying around too
[07:39:19] <mecctro> I'll see if I can bootstrap a script in with pxe to auto-install dedis
[09:40:22] <cmn32480> Sirfinkus - I call BS on the statements below.
[09:40:23] <cmn32480> SirFinkus> if so, you can get a lot more PPD using that instead of the CPU
[09:40:23] <cmn32480> <SirFinkus> but you can't run them concurrently
[09:40:40] <SirFinkus> oh?
[09:40:43] <cmn32480> the software handdles both CPU and GPU, but on separate work units
[09:40:51] <SirFinkus> maybe I was thinking of buttcoin mining
[09:41:09] <cmn32480> unknown...
[09:41:27] <cmn32480> but I can give a screenshot of the CPU and GPU on my desttop both running if proof is needed
[09:41:54] <SirFinkus> I believe you, I don't have a gpu capable of folding atm
[09:42:21] <cmn32480> my GPU does 30x what the CPU does
[09:42:33] <SirFinkus> I bet
[09:42:57] <cmn32480> ~folding-link
[09:42:59] <exec> └─ "folding" not found
[09:43:08] <cmn32480> ~folding link
[09:43:55] <cmn32480> had to scroll up to find the links
[09:44:30] <SirFinkus> aren't they in the topic?
[09:47:15] * cmn32480 groans
[09:47:34] <cmn32480> ~folding-links
[09:47:52] <cmn32480> ah well... there is a command for it...
[09:47:59] <cmn32480> but I don't remember what it is
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[10:00:32] <mecctro> !fah rank mecctro
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[10:01:32] <mecctro> !fah bad command here
[10:01:37] <mecctro> !fah rank mecctro
[10:01:38] <argute> Rank for mecctro: 940127 of 1837152
[10:02:55] <mecctro> !fah rank cmn32480
[10:02:59] <argute> Rank for cmn32480: 3636 of 1837152
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[10:03:21] <cmn32480> who is agute?
[10:03:29] <mecctro> I wrote a bot
[10:03:35] <cmn32480> ahhh
[10:03:39] <cmn32480> just be careful
[10:03:53] <cmn32480> Bender uses !
[10:03:59] <mecctro> Ah, np
[10:04:04] <mecctro> anything NOT taken? lmao
[10:04:05] <cmn32480> MrPlow is #
[10:04:07] <cmn32480> exec is ~
[10:04:14] <cmn32480> aqu4 is $
[10:04:41] <cmn32480> and you can alwyas play to your hearts content in #test
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[10:05:15] <mecctro> I'll be finishing the timer soon
[10:05:35] <cmn32480> timer?
[10:05:52] <mecctro> input timer
[10:05:58] <mecctro> no spambot
[10:06:05] <cmn32480> ahhh
[10:06:22] <mecctro> just wanted to see if it pulled it correctly
[10:07:54] <cmn32480> no problem here
[10:08:23] <cmn32480> i'm rather impressed that it works
[10:08:32] <mecctro> I got bored tonight
[10:08:32] * cmn32480 can't program his way out of a paper bag
[10:08:43] <mecctro> ah lol
[10:08:56] <mecctro> I can't paper bag my way out of a program
[10:09:30] * cmn32480 isn't sure if that is a good thing or not....
[10:26:32] <SirFinkus> I can drink out of a paper bag
[10:26:38] <SirFinkus> does that count for anything?
[10:29:01] <mecctro> In some circles
[10:29:33] <SirFinkus> I can also huff spraypaint out of paper bags
[10:29:42] <SirFinkus> the gold stuff is a little extra, but it really is the best
[10:30:38] <mecctro> sounds crunchy
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[12:08:21] <mecctro> `fah last mecctro
[12:08:22] <argute> Last Work for mecctro: 2016-08-28 03:07:48
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[12:14:44] <mecctro> `fah last mecctro
[12:14:44] <argute> Last Work for mecctro: 2016-08-28 03:07:48
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[14:21:11] <exec> current rank for team SoylentNews is 498
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[17:21:12] <exec> current rank for team SoylentNews is 497
[19:10:58] <cmn32480> `fah cmn32480
[19:11:31] <cmn32480> `fah rank cmn32480
[19:11:31] <argute> Global Rank for cmn32480: 3629 of 1837242
[19:45:02] <chromas> `fah rank chromas
[19:45:03] <argute> Global Rank for chromas: 182056 of 1837242
[19:45:14] <chromas> `join #test
[19:47:04] <mecctro> odd, I just got back
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[23:21:12] <exec> current rank for team SoylentNews is 496