#editorial | Logs for 2023-07-25
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[06:34:53] <janrinok> =submit https://www.washingtonpost.com
[06:34:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Analysis | Twitter Rival Mastodon Rife With Child-abuse Material, Study Finds" (48p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[10:51:18] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Around the World in 2 Hours: NASA’s New Aircraft Can Soon Take You to Any Point on Earth in a Jiff" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:46:25] <chromas> an animated jiff
[12:51:13] <janrinok> =submit https://techcrunch.com
[12:51:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Ivanti Rushes to Patch Zero-day Used to Breach Norway's Government" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:53:20] <janrinok> =submit https://techcrunch.com
[12:53:22] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Brevel Sprouts $18.5M to Develop Microalgae-based Alternative Proteins" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[19:33:48] <kolie> Someone want to greenlight https://soylentnews.org
[19:33:49] <systemd> ^ 03backSlash 19:33:48 = 19:33:48 GMT
[19:33:55] <kolie> OR make sure it's uhh
[19:33:58] <kolie> readable
[19:41:07] <requerdanos> I added some paragraph breaks
[19:41:54] <requerdanos> for some reason your name is missing after the word "by": "posted by on Tuesday July 25"
[19:42:06] <requerdanos> not sure how/where to correct that
[19:44:22] <requerdanos> maybe you want to sign your name at the bottom of it since as it reads now, your name isn't on it?
[19:45:54] <kolie> Ok took care of that
[19:45:58] <kolie> how to get out of editor session
[19:46:04] <kolie> I know there is a protocol there.
[19:46:43] <requerdanos> how to clear the status? click new at the top
[19:47:56] <kolie> it looks like shit on the main page
[19:48:16] <kolie> Does extended copy include everything or just the extra parts
[19:49:05] <kolie> idk looks good now thx
[19:49:11] <requerdanos> extended copy is what shows up after the "[Continues...]" break
[19:49:20] <kolie> gotcha so just the extra bits.
[19:49:35] <kolie> never got the ed training so my bad thx.
[19:54:00] <requerdanos> yeah normally you would work our your questions by beating them against the dev.soylentnews.org first :)
[19:56:04] <kolie> I'd like to request that all current editors elect a chief editor.
[19:56:27] <kolie> If there is no such person.
[20:07:00] <requerdanos> I am not even sure I can name all current editors, nor assemble their contact information, seemingly first steps in such a process
[20:09:00] <kolie> anyone whos greenlit something in the past 6 months and hasn't resigned would be a good metric no?
[20:13:24] <cmn32480> Find everybody with Seclevel 100 and you have all the editors
[20:13:55] <kolie> ok so that meets the was an editor criteria - not sure how active that list will be one sec ill pull it
[20:14:35] <cmn32480> I can guarantee it isn't current. I'm still on it.
[20:14:53] <requerdanos> My seclevel is not 100.
[20:15:03] <kolie> coolhand, hubie, mrpg, upstart, juggs, cmn32480, takyon, chromas, mechajay, audioguy, fatphil, requerdanos, martyb fnord666, bytram
[20:15:32] <cmn32480> that's probably about right. and I'd push that the vast majority of those folks are no longer active
[20:21:19] <chromas> mrpg still pops in occasionally, and maybe takyon
[20:22:31] <requerdanos> takyon's pre-edited submissions are especially important, even if not technically an example of "editing"
[20:23:25] <chromas> I'm not sure if he still posts stories but I've seen him 2nd stuff once in awhile
[20:29:09] <requerdanos> I wonder if there is enough SQL-fu in the world to apply that 6 month parameter for saving/updating a story and get a pared down list.
[20:29:39] <kolie> yea im doing that now
[20:29:43] <kolie> just figuring our where signoffs are
[20:31:07] <requerdanos> My apreadsheet has a heading "Soylentnews 6-month editors as of Tue Jul 25 04:30:47 PM EDT 2023" just waiting for the populating data :)
[20:36:02] <kolie> potential 6 month editors
[20:36:03] <kolie> chromas Fnord666 hubie martyb mrpg requerdanos takyon
[20:40:05] <requerdanos> Many thanks.
[20:43:15] <requerdanos> Now, replic8tor should be on that list having just published a story recently, but for some reason the authorship is muddy on that post
[20:43:58] <requerdanos> Ncommander should have probably come up, same reason
[20:45:07] <kolie> I edited out myself, ncommander
[20:45:09] <kolie> and janrinok
[20:45:39] <kolie> and pstart
[20:46:08] <requerdanos> right, upstart does a lot of editing work of course, but behind the scenes
[20:53:35] <requerdanos> Of course the questions arises, do I have the correct e-mail address if I trust the registered soylentnews addresses.
[20:57:33] <kolie> It's a start.
[20:57:47] <kolie> Who doesn't check irc
[20:57:48] <kolie> takyon
[20:57:50] <kolie> mrpg
[20:57:56] <kolie> hubie
[21:14:58] <requerdanos> an e-mail has been sent forwarding the request to the people identified.
[21:17:44] <kolie> cool the goal being - I want to update and discuss editorial responsibilities, and address long standing issues. The chief editor would be the conduit for which that is to happen on behalf of the editorship.
[21:19:52] <requerdanos> step one done.
[21:20:51] <kolie> Awesome, tyvm.
[22:37:55] <requerdanos> =cite
[22:37:56] <systemd> Generate a block of HTML for citing an article. Takes DOIs and URLs. Template:
[22:37:56] <systemd> ${authors}<b>${title}</b>${access}, <cite>${journal}</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/${doi}">${doi}</a>)