#editorial | Logs for 2020-09-06

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[00:02:16] <Bytram> Let me repeat; singular. I can't change everybody. I have no illusions that I could. And there are some who ARE beyond my ability to change, so I try to be selective about where I spend my energy and how I do so.
[00:03:31] <Bytram> Have you *ever* seen me go "toe-to-toe" with you and lash out with obscenities or demean you in any way?
[00:03:50] <Bytram> (I might have -- sometimes I forget things)
[00:04:08] <AzumaHazuki> now as that regards SN: we have over a dozen of these cases, some of whom are either in positions of power (Uzzard) or are willfully attempting to dominate the subs queue with hideously biased and agenda-driven crapfloods (Runaway, alias "nutherguy")
[00:05:38] <Bytram> again, I only have so much time left after IRL stuff and pushing out stories; I lament that I lack time to do more "conversing" with the community.
[00:06:02] <Bytram> baib; dishes
[00:06:56] <AzumaHazuki> just remember: I'm at the end of my rope here and am one coppery-red pubic hair from getting the feds all over this place like flies on ripe dogshit
[00:07:28] <AzumaHazuki> either something gets done about the rwnj takeover...or something gets done about it
[00:07:51] <chromas> from the herpity-derp dept.
[00:08:07] <AzumaHazuki> be quiet, the grownups are talking
[00:08:21] <chromas> Don't you have pills to pop?
[00:08:36] <AzumaHazuki> what's wrong, chromas? do you resemble the above remarks?
[00:09:25] <chromas> Well, Bytram pulled out before you could get your rocks off so I thought I'd step in.
[00:09:48] <AzumaHazuki> sure, sure. wake me when you have something useful to say
[00:12:34] <AzumaHazuki> ...actually, you're right, time for nightly zinc and valerian. thanks for reminding me. today's been a long fucking day
[00:13:35] <Bytram> back
[00:14:55] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: If you would like to help me out here, pick a story from the subs queue and clean it up so it's ready-to-go (or pick one of your own). That would be a HUGE help. Lemme check something
[00:17:15] <RandomFactor> i've got some time if there's one that needs a writeup.
[00:21:00] <Bytram> RandomFactor: So, you've seen plenty of examples of what we are looking to put upon the site; take a look at: https://soylentnews.org and find a story that interests you. Let me know which one and if I think it's one we'd run (there is a bunch of junk that gets submitted)
[00:21:06] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[00:21:51] <Bytram> then I'll let you know; rewrite it to conform to our story "style" and submit it; I'll review and take it from there.
[00:22:06] <Bytram> teamwork++
[00:22:06] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 249
[00:22:12] <Bytram> RandomFactor++
[00:22:12] <Bender> karma - randomfactor: 8
[00:22:39] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram: i want you, tomorrow when rested, to look at the stories submitted by the nick "nutherguy." This is Runaway, and you can check that by comparing the hostmasks here on IRC
[00:22:58] <Bytram> I am aware.
[00:23:07] <RandomFactor> Maybe the chinese spaceplane one?
[00:23:08] <AzumaHazuki> tell me what you notice in nearly all of them, and all of them that have a political bent. he's thrown in the occasional neutral-sounding one as if it's some sort of fiendishly clever smokescreen
[00:23:24] <RandomFactor> https://soylentnews.org
[00:23:25] <systemd> ^ 03China Launches Experimental Spaceplane - NASASpaceFlight.com: SoylentNews Submission
[00:24:12] <AzumaHazuki> in every single one of them that gets even marginally or tangentially political you'll see he's basically become a pipeline for the disinformation campaigns of the "alt-right." He's turned into a paranoid nutcase
[00:24:23] <Bytram> RandomFactor: Looks like a good pick... go for it!
[00:25:05] <AzumaHazuki> this is an example of "Bayesian poisoning," which is the polite term for "drown everyone in millions of gallons of liquid bullshit." It's right out of the Trump camp playbook, and a form of it arises in all fascist regimes as well
[00:25:49] <AzumaHazuki> in case you need this spelled out, it's a direct attack on the userbase's epistemological capabilities
[00:28:06] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: and I would like to engage him in the comments, but we need to have the stories to comment on. And I only have so much time and energy in one day. You want to help? Submit publish-ready stories.
[00:28:57] <AzumaHazuki> just...keep in mind the tenor of the site okay? what you publish, as editors, is what you implicitly agree with, or at least agree is worth spreading around to more eyes
[00:29:48] <AzumaHazuki> engaging him in the comments is worthless. he sockpuppets, but more to the point, he doesn't give a shit. he's in permanent martyr-mode; any pushback is just proof he's right
[00:32:06] <Bytram> not exactly, I try to select stories that I believe will be of interest to the community. Some are exactly in line with my views. Some I have little interest in, but I think others might. Some I am curious about and look forward to what the community has to say on it. The key thing is to provide more than hearsay or innuendo; citations or reputable sources are important
[00:33:27] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, and the sources this nutjob is drawing on are, well, calling them poisoned wells is an insult to everyone who ever dropped a plague-ridden corpse in a well throughout history
[00:33:48] <AzumaHazuki> that's not the genetic fallacy, either: these sources are knowingly and deliberately spreading misinformation
[00:34:33] <Bytram> and that is a point I will take under advisement... and I would offer for you to consider that we no longer have comments posted by rDT. It's not about having one (or a select few) with BIG clubs... many hands make short work. Like I said earlier: strategy.
[00:35:25] <Bytram> that said,I've spent what, an hour? talking with you? I need to get some stories out and I would llike to gt to bed at a reasonable hour and get a full night's sleep -- it's been a while
[00:35:44] <Bytram> =g lyrics Industrial Disease
[00:35:45] <systemd> https://www.azlyrics.com - Dire Straits - Industrial Disease Lyrics | AZLyrics.com
[00:35:49] <AzumaHazuki> rDT was a troll. i am speaking here of a fanatic, one who has not even crested this wave of insanity he's surfing. just keep it in mind okay?
[00:36:04] <Bytram> will do
[00:36:16] <Bytram> =g notes
[00:36:17] <systemd> https://www.get-notes.com - Notes
[00:36:22] <Bytram> lol
[00:36:26] <Bytram> =notes
[00:36:26] <systemd> ♩ (&#9833;) ♪ (&#9834;) ♫ (&#9835;) ♬ (&#9836;) 🎜 (&#127900;) 🎝 (&#127901;) 🎵 (&#127925;) 🎶 (&#127926;)
[00:37:44] <Bytram> =g Indus Valley Civilisation
[00:37:45] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Indus Valley Civilisation - Wikipedia
[00:41:11] <Bytram> =g Indus Valley "Chaos: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Nonlinear Science"
[00:41:12] <systemd> https://aip.scitation.org - Uncovering transitions in paleoclimate time series and the climate ...
[00:41:22] <Bytram> =cite https://aip.scitation.org
[00:41:23] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Nishant Malik. <b>Uncovering transitions in paleoclimate time series and the climate driven demise of an ancient civilization</b>, <cite>Chaos: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Nonlinear Science</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1063/5.0012059">10.1063/5.0012059</a>)</p>
[00:47:07] <Bytram> break time
[00:47:30] <Bytram> back in a bit
[00:47:31] <RandomFactor> subbed. https://soylentnews.org
[00:47:32] <systemd> ^ 03China Launches Experimental Reusable Space Plane: SoylentNews Submission
[00:47:59] <RandomFactor> Harder than it looked. 95% of that article was background filler :-p
[01:04:14] <Bytram> RandomFactor: Now try doing about 3 dozen per week. Welcome to *my* world :D
[01:04:32] <Bytram> whereto? https://youtu.be
[01:04:33] <systemd> ^ 03Metasurface holographic movie showing a rotating Earth ( https://www.youtube.com )
[01:19:16] <Bytram> RandomFactor++ Thank you! There were a couple typos in the *original* source doc; had to [fix] then in out quote, otherwise superb!
[01:19:16] <Bender> karma - randomfactor: 9
[01:19:34] <Bytram> =w X-37B
[01:19:35] <systemd> that it would develop its own variant from NASA's X-37A. The Air Force version was designated the X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle (OTV). The OTV program was - https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:20:49] <Bytram> https://www.nasaspaceflight.com
[01:20:49] <systemd> ^ 03China launches experimental spaceplane - NASASpaceFlight.com
[01:34:05] <chromas> I like how Azuma thinks Bytram can't notice the political angle of runaway subs
[01:34:46] <Bytram> I sure am a noob, ain't I?
[01:35:33] <chromas> Yes, but soon we'll promote you to chief head assistant adjutant to the jr senior editorial secondings dept.
[01:39:24] <Bytram> nope... that's gonna be *your* jerb!
[01:39:28] <Bytram> ;)
[01:39:30] <Bytram> laters
[01:39:48] <Bytram> have a great night everybody!
[01:56:35] <AzumaHazuki> o/
[01:57:02] <AzumaHazuki> chromas: eat shit. i know he noticed it, i want to point out how dangerous it is
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[10:40:12] <Bytram> =yt "Amy Allen - Difficult (Official Music Video)"
[10:40:12] <Bytram> =yt "Amy Allen - Queen of Silver Linings (Official Music Video)"
[10:40:13] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Amy Allen - Difficult (Official Music Video) (03:45; 985,124 views; 👍2,966 👎135)
[10:40:14] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Amy Allen - Queen of Silver Linings (Official Music Video) (03:40; 1,543,480 views; 👍4,194 👎295)
[12:47:54] <Bytram> =g CVE-2020-3566
[12:47:55] <systemd> https://cve.mitre.org - CVE-2020-3566 - CVE
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[14:59:08] <Bytram> =eds
[14:59:08] <systemd> ^ Editor ping for Bytram, chromas, cmn32480, CoolHand, FatPhil, Fnord666, fyngyrz, janrinok, mrpg, n1, nick, spiraldancing, takyon
[14:59:09] <Bytram> Just has a nice chat with JR. He seems to he holding up well; still has his sense of humor! He also asked me to give his best regards to the team... "best regards"! :D
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[19:01:47] <Bytram> https://store.arduino.cc
[19:01:49] <systemd> ^ 03Arduino Nano 33 BLE Sense | Arduino Official Store ( https://store.arduino.cc )
[19:01:54] <Bytram> https://store.arduino.cc
[19:01:56] <systemd> ^ 03Arduino Nano 33 BLE Sense | Arduino Official Store ( https://store.arduino.cc )
[20:47:20] <Bytram> =yt Numberphile dodecahedron
[20:47:21] <systemd> https://youtube.com - A New Discovery about Dodecahedrons - Numberphile (19:01; 739,125 views; 👍27,805 👎586)
[21:30:10] <Bytram> =yt Numberphile dodecahedron numberphile2
[21:30:11] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Yellow Brick Road and Dodecahedron (extra) - Numberphile (10:30; 25,554 views; 👍1,023 👎17)
[22:10:40] <Bytram> =yt "Amy Allen - Difficult (Official Music Video)"
[22:10:40] <Bytram> =yt "Amy Allen - Queen of Silver Linings (Official Music Video)"
[22:10:41] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Amy Allen - Difficult (Official Music Video) (03:45; 999,960 views; 👍3,014 👎137)
[22:10:42] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Amy Allen - Queen of Silver Linings (Official Music Video) (03:40; 1,543,615 views; 👍4,194 👎295)
[22:53:59] <Bytram> =yt "Amy Allen - Difficult (Official Music Video)"
[22:53:59] <Bytram> =yt "Amy Allen - Queen of Silver Linings (Official Music Video)"
[22:54:00] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Amy Allen - Difficult (Official Music Video) (03:45; 1,001,206 views; 👍3,019 👎138)
[22:54:01] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Amy Allen - Queen of Silver Linings (Official Music Video) (03:40; 1,543,634 views; 👍4,194 👎295)
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