#editorial | Logs for 2020-06-19

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[00:34:24] <Fnord666> Bytram, you there?
[00:40:43] <Fnord666> Disregard
[01:06:32] <Bytram> Fnord666: Not here, nope. ;)
[01:08:35] <Bytram> =g de facto
[01:08:36] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - De facto - Wikipedia
[01:13:49] <Bytram> =cite https://advances.sciencemag.org
[01:13:50] <systemd> Journal Reference: Zhijie Zhu, Hyun Soo Park, Michael C. McAlpine. 3D printed deformable sensors [open], <cite>Science Advances</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.aba5575">10.1126/sciadv.aba5575</a>)
[01:13:52] <exec> └─ 133D printed deformable sensors | Science Advances
[01:22:57] <Bytram> stories 2nded, time for bed.
[01:23:30] <Bytram> have a great night everybody!
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[11:43:30] <cmn32480> how are we currently handling upstart dropping in the 3 paragraph summaries of studies with a citation?
[11:43:48] <cmn32480> do we have to pull pieces out for fair use? or can it be used as is?
[11:44:06] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[11:44:07] * exec illegitimately instantiates trash can full of freedom for janrinok
[12:17:49] <Bytram> cmn32480: do you have a link?
[12:18:02] <Bytram> oh, and Good Morning!!!!!
[12:18:13] <Bytram> =gnu cmn32480
[12:18:14] * systemd transcendentally uninstalls a tablespoon of half-dead batteries from cmn32480
[12:18:30] <Bytram> 'es not dead yet!
[12:26:00] <Bytram> cmn32480: Ugh. Unfortunately, that one was actually too short to use. Happens very rarely -- you just got [un]lucky. :(
[12:29:41] <Bytram> Ideally, I try to aim for ~250-300 words, and less than, I dunno, 30% of a story. The longer the story we are starting with, the easier it is. For some, there's almost no hope unless there's a complete rewrite of the submission.
[12:33:33] <Bytram> break time
[12:34:02] <chromas> I was thinking it could just do three or so paragraphs to avoid infringement, then point at the scraped whole version somewhere secret so editors can copypasta and nobody complains
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[12:56:52] <Bytram> chromas: the problem is the original was only 3 paragraphs to start with... Really hard to do only do an excerpt with so little to start with.
[12:57:01] <Bytram> =g fMRI
[12:57:02] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Functional magnetic resonance imaging - Wikipedia
[12:57:18] <chromas> Sure, but there's usually moar
[12:57:47] <Bytram> yes, but not in this case, unfortunately, and cmn32480 was unsure what to do.
[12:57:55] * Bytram is rewriting it atm
[13:02:47] <chromas> When it's that short it probably doesn't matter. Hard to claim copyright on a couple paragraphs
[13:07:27] <Bytram> diagree.
[13:07:55] <Bytram> easier to prove infringement when the whole thing was quoted verbatim.
[13:09:11] <Bytram> chromas: Done. Take a look, if you would? https://soylentnews.org
[13:09:12] <systemd> ^ 03upstart - SoylentNews User ( https://soylentnews.org )
[13:09:13] <exec> └─ 13- SoylentNews User
[13:11:58] <Bytram> =cite http://dx.doi.org
[13:12:01] <systemd> Journal Reference: S. Janbaz, K. Narooei, T. van Manen, et al. Strain rate–dependent mechanical metamaterials [open], <cite>Science Advances</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.aba0616">10.1126/sciadv.aba0616</a>)
[13:12:02] <exec> └─ 13Strain rate–dependent mechanical metamaterials | Science Advances
[13:13:03] <chromas> I was thinking it was a dupe but I probably just saw it in the sub hole
[13:18:57] <cmn32480> understood
[13:19:01] <cmn32480> thanks for the input bytram
[13:19:12] * cmn32480 notes his chops are rather rusty
[13:20:29] * Bytram fires up the barbecue in anticipation of fresh chops
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[17:58:19] <Bytram> =g GLPI
[17:58:20] <systemd> https://glpi-project.org - GLPI ITSM is software for business powered by open source ...
[17:58:40] <Bytram> =g GLPI service desk
[17:58:40] <systemd> https://glpi-project.org - IT Service Desk and Ticketing features of GLPI. - GLPI Project
[18:00:30] <Bytram> =g GLPI wikipedia
[18:00:31] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - GLPi - Wikipedia
[18:08:35] <Bytram> =yt hawaii 40
[18:08:36] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Huawei P40 Pro Unboxing and Camera Test (11:21)
[18:08:44] <Bytram> =yt hawaii 50
[18:08:45] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Hawaii Five O Theme Song Full Version (03:29)
[18:09:50] <Bytram> =yt hawaii 50 -vzd6GyJoWPq8
[18:09:51] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Hawaii Five O Theme Song Full Version (03:29)
[18:10:01] <Bytram> =yt hawaii 50 -zd6GyJoWPq8
[18:10:02] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Hawaii Five-O 1968 - 1980 Opening and Closing Theme HD (03:32)
[18:46:33] <Bytram> =cite https://pubs.acs.org
[18:46:34] <systemd> Journal Reference: Graphene-Enabled Adaptive Infrared Textiles, <cite>Nano Letters</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1021/acs.nanolett.0c01694">10.1021/acs.nanolett.0c01694</a>)
[18:46:35] <exec> └─ 13Graphene-Enabled Adaptive Infrared Textiles | Nano Letters
[19:40:12] <Bytram> =yt wandering albatross
[19:40:13] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Albatrosses' Life-Long Bond Begins With Elaborate Courtship – Ep. 3 | Wildlife: Resurrection Island (09)
[19:40:36] <Bytram> =yt wandering albatross -courtship
[19:40:37] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Dynamic Soaring: How the Wandering Albatross Can Fly for Free (02:35)
[20:16:48] <Bytram> whereto? https://youtu.be
[20:16:50] <systemd> ^ 03OK Go - Upside Down & Inside Out ( https://www.youtube.com )
[20:16:50] <exec> └─ 13YouTube
[20:23:39] <chromas> from the with-"Friends"-like-these... dept.
[20:23:51] * chromas considers pasting in a thumbs-up next to "like" :D
[20:37:40] <Bytram> chromas: go for it, but also paste in ed notes field in case we need it.
[20:42:25] <chromas> grrrrr
[20:42:41] <chromas> I found another source for the lego assembly story (with moar text) but still no paper to cite
[20:42:58] <chromas> searching ucsdnews returns 0 results
[20:44:57] <chromas> Now I found it on a different subdomain of the school. Still no paper
[20:45:26] <chromas> It's not science if there's no DOI
[20:45:51] * chromas puts in a [citation needed]
[20:48:08] <Bytram> chromas: I'll need a citation for your claim that a citation is needed.
[20:48:53] <chromas> [1]
[20:48:59] <Bytram> allrighty then, time to run some errands and things.
[20:49:01] <Bytram> LOL!
[20:49:10] <Bytram> laters!