#editorial | Logs for 2020-06-18

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[01:50:38] <Bytram> =g x window
[01:50:38] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - X Window System - Wikipedia
[02:01:40] <Bytram> =g APATI
[02:01:40] <systemd> https://www.metal-archives.com - Apati - Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives
[02:01:49] <Bytram> =g ATAPI
[02:01:50] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - ATA Packet Interface - Wikipedia
[02:08:21] <Bytram> =g FVWN
[02:08:22] <systemd> https://skyvector.com - FVWN - Hwange National Pk Airport | SkyVector
[02:08:27] <Bytram> =g FVWW
[02:08:28] <systemd> https://fvww.be - FVWW
[02:08:31] <Bytram> =g FVWM
[02:08:32] <systemd> http://fvwm.org - FVWM - The Official FVWM Home Page
[02:36:22] <Bytram> =g NPR dinosaur egg deflated
[02:36:23] <systemd> https://www.opb.org - Scientists Find The Biggest Soft-Shelled Egg Ever, Nicknamed 'The ...
[02:36:56] <Bytram> =g NPR.org dinosaur egg deflated
[02:36:57] <systemd> https://www.npr.org - The 1st Dinosaur Eggs Were Soft Shelled, And So Was 'The Thing ...
[02:39:28] <Bytram> =g sciencedaily.com "https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2377-7"
[02:39:29] <systemd> [0 results]
[02:39:31] <exec> └─ 13303 See Other
[02:39:45] <Bytram> =g "https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2377-7"
[02:39:45] <systemd> [0 results]
[02:39:48] <exec> └─ 13303 See Other
[02:40:14] <Bytram> =g science daily https://www.nature.com
[02:40:15] <systemd> https://phys.org - First egg from Antarctica is big and might belong to an extinct sea ...
[02:40:18] <exec> └─ 13303 See Other
[02:52:06] <Bytram> =asub https://www.npr.org
[02:52:07] <systemd> Submitting "Scientists Find The Biggest Soft-Shelled Egg Ever, Nicknamed 'The Thing'"...
[02:52:07] <exec> └─ 13The 1st Dinosaur Eggs Were Soft Shelled, And So Was 'The Thing' From Antarctica : NPR
[02:52:29] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scientists Find the Biggest Soft-Shelled Egg Ever, Nicknamed 'the Thing'" (25 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:55:13] <Bytram> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[02:55:15] <exec> └─ 13Justice Department proposes major overhaul of Sec. 230 protections | Ars Technica
[02:55:15] <systemd> Submitting "Justice Department proposes major overhaul of Sec. 230 protections"...
[02:55:37] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Justice Department Proposes Major Overhaul of Sec. 230 Protections" (18 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:57:55] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[02:57:57] <systemd> ^ 03Mysterious radio bursts are buzzing Earth with an unusual rhythm ( https://www.cnet.com )
[02:58:56] <chromas> 8/7?
[03:22:33] <Bytram> chromas: ??? I don't follow.
[03:23:01] <chromas> like a time signature
[03:23:13] <chromas> unusual rhythm
[03:24:06] <Bytram> Huh? Oh. In that case... Hawaii 5-0 ftw!
[03:24:34] <Bytram> =yt hawaii 50 theme
[03:24:35] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Hawaii Five O Theme Song Full Version (03:29)
[03:27:04] <Bytram> =g hawaii Five O theme wikipedia
[03:27:05] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org(1968_TV_series) - Hawaii Five-O (1968 TV series) - Wikipedia
[03:43:28] * Bytram yawns
[03:43:28] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into Bytram's gaping mouth
[03:59:20] <Bytram> =cite http://dx.doi.org
[03:59:21] <systemd> Journal Reference: Redirecting, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.foreco.2020.117881">10.1016/j.foreco.2020.117881</a>)
[03:59:22] <exec> └─ 13Redirecting
[03:59:40] <Bytram> whereto? http://dx.doi.org
[03:59:41] <systemd> ^ 03Redirecting ( https://linkinghub.elsevier.com )
[03:59:42] <exec> └─ 13Redirecting
[03:59:55] <Bytram> =cite https://linkinghub.elsevier.com
[03:59:56] <systemd> Journal Reference: Redirecting, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0378112719319693">https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0378112719319693</a>)
[03:59:57] <exec> └─ 13Redirecting
[04:00:22] <chromas> Maybe it should except on any empty block
[04:00:42] <Bytram> whereto? https://linkinghub.elsevier.com
[04:00:44] <systemd> ^ 03Redirecting
[04:00:44] <exec> └─ 13Redirecting
[04:01:06] <chromas> → https://www.sciencedirect.com
[04:01:07] <systemd> ^ 03Bedrock type drives forest carbon storage and uptake across the mid-Atlantic Appalachian Ridge and Valley, U.S.A.
[04:01:08] <exec> └─ 13Bedrock type drives forest carbon storage and uptake across the mid-Atlantic Appalachian Ridge and Valley, U.S.A. - ScienceDirect
[04:01:53] <Bytram> there's a several second lag on my end, but eventually the link usually would eventually go through
[04:02:10] <Bytram> =cite https://www.sciencedirect.com
[04:02:11] <systemd> Journal Reference: Bedrock type drives forest carbon storage and uptake across the mid-Atlantic Appalachian Ridge and Valley, U.S.A., <cite>Forest Ecology and Management</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.foreco.2020.117881">10.1016/j.foreco.2020.117881</a>)
[04:02:12] <exec> └─ 13Bedrock type drives forest carbon storage and uptake across the mid-Atlantic Appalachian Ridge and Valley, U.S.A. - ScienceDirect
[04:03:23] <chromas> looks like they use meta refresh instead of a 301 or whatever, so the bots don't detect it
[04:05:11] <Bytram> meta refresh? Pbbbbbbt!
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[04:46:36] <Bytram> Dean: pong!
[04:53:31] <Dean> Hello! How is everything?
[04:54:03] <Dean> Bytram: How is everything?
[04:59:51] <Bytram> good thanks...
[05:00:01] <Bytram> Doing something atm... 2 minutes
[05:02:08] <Fnord666> =cite
[05:02:08] <systemd> Generate a block of HTML for citing an article. Takes DOIs and URLs. Template:
[05:02:08] <systemd> ${authors}${title}${access}, <cite>${journal}</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/${doi}">${doi}</a>)
[05:02:14] <Fnord666> =declined
[05:02:14] <systemd> Thanks for submitting this story. It appears that no editor has yet selected this story to be run. At least a week has passed since the story was submitted, and if an editor was going to have selected it, they would likely have done so by now. It has, therefore, been removed from the submission queue.
[05:04:05] <Bytram> Dean: back. what's up?
[05:04:13] <Bytram> Fnord666: !!
[05:04:33] <Fnord666> Bytram!! Waht are you doing still up?
[05:04:41] <Dean> Bytram: Just making a concerted effort to start showing up on a regular basis
[05:04:43] <Bytram> sleeping
[05:04:56] <Bytram> Dean: welcome!
[05:05:21] <Bytram> Fnord666: if you want it, the T-Mobine story is all yours
[05:06:21] <Fnord666> Thanks. It's already in the story queue
[05:06:50] <Fnord666> Honestly I didn't think you would be up and didn't see if you were in that story
[05:06:59] <Bytram> Fnord666: ewe our fast!
[05:07:58] <Fnord666> meh, it was a straight forward story with obvious fluffery around it
[05:08:58] <Bytram> yes, but I really wished it could be trimmed down more and did not see a way to do that, so punted. Looks like you came to the same result. ;)
[05:09:35] <Fnord666> I tried to stick to the primary point of the story
[05:09:41] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.justice.gov
[05:09:41] <systemd> ^ 03DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE’S REVIEW OF SECTION 230 OF THE COMMUNICATIONS DECENCY ACT OF 1996 ( https://www.justice.gov )
[05:09:42] <exec> └─ 13DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE’S REVIEW OF SECTION 230 OF THE COMMUNICATIONS DECENCY ACT OF 1996 | AG | Department of Justice
[05:09:53] <Fnord666> Man are they really going after section 230!
[05:10:08] <Bytram> WHY ARE THEY YELLING???
[05:10:46] <Fnord666> probably should update the department to "chilling effect"
[05:11:18] <Fnord666> or something about a million voices suddenly crying out and being silenced
[05:11:27] <Bytram> Fnord666: yep, strangely, both Trump and Biden are going for an update... can't be good for us.
[05:12:37] <Fnord666> Probably with similar goals in mind
[05:13:06] <Fnord666> And yes not good for us in general and for our site in particular.
[05:13:17] <Fnord666> No idea what the implications will be just yet.
[05:13:35] <Fnord666> but yeah, probably not good
[05:14:42] <Fnord666> of course, the site and it's administrators take no specific actions on behalf of the site right now, so maybe it won't be too bad.
[05:16:04] <Bytram> one of the submarined overhauls is to require sites to make access to historical 'posts/comments' etc. which I've see reports suggest they are aiming to backdoor in key-escrow or some kind of way of infiltrating secured communications.
[05:17:11] <Fnord666> Again?
[05:17:35] <Fnord666> It's that whole "they only have to win once" BS.
[05:18:49] <Fnord666> I still blame Matt Blaze for telling them that their lame Clipper chip was broken by design.
[05:19:29] <Fnord666> They could have gone cluelessly on their way and we could have still had secure communications.
[05:20:48] <Fnord666> Although I suppose they would have figured it our eventually. And it was still the camel's nose.
[05:22:22] <Bytram> yes, again. we can trust you with backdoors, sure. And what was it that happened to the CIA hacking tools again?
[05:23:22] <Fnord666> Apparently "We can build in a backdoor that no one else can exploit" is the fourth biggest lie in the world.
[05:25:02] <Fnord666> The more cynical among us would say that they don't care who else can exploit it as long as they can too.
[05:25:27] <Fnord666> The more cynical among us would say that the government doesn't care who else can exploit it as long as they can too.
[05:25:34] <Bytram> they will never figure out my *double* ROT-13 encoding!
[05:25:58] <Fnord666> very clever! I doubled the key space by doing a rot-26!
[05:26:19] <Bytram> O_O wowee!
[05:26:40] <Bytram> so, what are YOU doing up this late?
[05:27:06] <Fnord666> Not that unusual for me, but I was working until about 12 actually.
[05:27:29] <Bytram> late nite!
[05:27:59] <Fnord666> yep. We've been doing a number of changes as part of a data center migration and we do all changes after hours.
[05:28:41] <Bytram> well, if you can take it from here, the construction site up the street gets started at 0630, so sleeping in is... challenging.
[05:28:53] <Bytram> I really appreciate the helping hand!
[05:28:57] <Bytram> teamwork++
[05:28:57] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 243
[05:28:58] <Fnord666> ugh
[05:29:36] <Fnord666> That's unfortunate and probably against one or more noise ordinances
[05:29:50] <Bytram> Fnord666++ congrats on your 5,100th story! https://soylentnews.org
[05:29:50] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 159
[05:29:51] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews: Authors
[05:29:52] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews: Authors
[05:30:12] <Fnord666> Woo Hoo!
[05:30:21] <Bytram> only about 180 more to reach a mile ;)
[05:30:22] <Fnord666> closing in on second place!
[05:30:33] <Fnord666> lol
[05:31:07] * Bytram changes Fnord666's nick to Fnord555 so he is now a programmable interval timer
[05:31:46] <Fnord666> probably the only way I'll be referred to as stable...
[05:32:01] <Bytram> ROFL!
[05:32:06] <Fnord666> I am officially a monostable multivibrator?
[05:32:44] <Bytram> depends on how stable your power supply is
[05:32:46] <Fnord666> I think I have a whole tray of them in various packages in my workshop.
[05:33:48] <Bytram> just wait until you have an earthquake
[05:34:29] <Fnord666> the 0603 SMDs will be a lot of fun.
[05:34:31] <Bytram> that's the one time you can see a drunk walk a straight line. ba dum, tish!
[05:34:40] <Fnord666> lol
[05:35:07] <Bytram> have a good night, my friend. "see" you tomorrow!
[05:37:54] <Fnord666> you too. I was just thinking it was late as well.
[05:38:00] <Fnord666> pleasant dreams.
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[14:10:31] <Bytram> =cite https://www.cell.com(20)30079-5
[14:10:35] <systemd> Journal Reference: Zhongyang Wang. Reactant-Transport Engineering Approach to High-Power Direct Borohydride Fuel Cells, <cite>Cell Reports Physical Science</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.xcrp.2020.100084">10.1016/j.xcrp.2020.100084</a>)
[14:10:37] <exec> └─ 13Reactant-Transport Engineering Approach to High-Power Direct Borohydride Fuel Cells: Cell Reports Physical Science
[14:51:46] <Bytram> =g hollerith card
[14:51:47] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Punched card - Wikipedia
[15:15:48] <Bytram> =g DEC vt-05
[15:15:49] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - VT05 - Wikipedia
[15:16:53] <Bytram> =g lear siegler adm-3a
[15:16:54] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - ADM-3A - Wikipedia
[15:19:47] <Bytram> =g Wyse terminal
[15:19:47] <systemd> https://www.dell.com - Wyse Thin Clients and Cloud Computing | Dell USA
[15:20:00] <Bytram> =g Wyse terminal Wikipedia
[15:20:01] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Dell Wyse - Wikipedia
[15:20:09] <Bytram> =g Wyse terminal Wikipedia -Dell
[15:20:09] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - File:Wyse serial terminal displaying Dynix in library.jpg - Wikipedia
[16:25:59] <Bytram> =g alamo movies
[16:26:00] <systemd> https://drafthouse.com - Alamo Drafthouse Cinema
[16:27:50] <Bytram> https://www.cnet.com
[16:27:51] <systemd> ^ 03Movie theaters will look vastly different if they survive COVID-19 ( https://www.cnet.com )
[16:27:51] <exec> └─ 13Movie theaters will look vastly different if they survive COVID-19 - CNET
[16:30:40] <Bytram> cmn32480: thanks SO MUCH for pushing out stories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:30:56] <Bytram> cmn32480++ :D
[16:30:56] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 103
[17:03:50] <Bytram> =asub https://threatpost.com
[17:03:52] <exec> └─ 13BofA Phish Gets Around DMARC, Other Email Protections | Threatpost
[17:03:52] <systemd> Submitting "BofA Phish Gets Around DMARC, Other Email Protections"...
[17:04:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03BofA Phish Gets Around DMARC, Other Email Protections" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:06:18] <Bytram> =asub https://www.sciencedaily.com
[17:06:19] <systemd> Submitting "Using LEGO to test children's ability to visualize and rotate 3D shapes in space"...
[17:06:19] <exec> └─ 13Using LEGO to test children's ability to visualize and rotate 3D shapes in space -- ScienceDaily
[17:06:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Using LEGO to Test Children's Ability to Visualize and Rotate 3D Shapes in Space" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:19:29] <Bytram> =asub https://phys.org
[17:19:30] <exec> └─ 13Massive Sahara dust plume headed for southeastern US, could bring sensational sunsets
[17:19:31] <systemd> Submitting "Massive Sahara dust plume headed for southeastern US, could bring sensational sunsets"...
[17:19:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Massive Sahara Dust Plume Headed for Southeastern US, Could Bring Sensational Sunsets" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[17:52:19] <Bytram> =asub https://phys.org
[17:52:20] <exec> └─ 13Leonardo's 'quick eye' may be key to Mona Lisa's magnetism
[17:52:20] <systemd> Submitting "Leonardo's 'quick eye' may be key to Mona Lisa's magnetism"...
[17:52:42] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Leonardo's 'Quick Eye' May be Key to Mona Lisa's Magnetism" (29 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:53:32] <cmn32480> bytram - I'll try to do what I can in the mornings before the shit hits the fan at the office. But I can make no promises.
[17:54:48] <Bytram> cmn32480: First things first -- take care of your job and yourself -- unless you just need/want a break -- then have at it! THANKS!
[17:55:11] <cmn32480> what I want is a vacation... but hey... take what I can get
[17:55:48] <Bytram> just be aware we now have bots that will sub entire articles -- we need to hack those down for Fair Use.
[17:55:59] <Bytram> brb
[17:57:25] <Bytram> yep, my refrigerator is dead. :(
[17:58:04] <cmn32480> damn.. .
[17:58:08] <cmn32480> sorry to hear that
[17:58:12] <cmn32480> time to call the labndlord
[17:58:18] <Bytram> gonna try flipping breakers, but will have to power down laptop and displays before I do.
[17:58:28] <cmn32480> I saw that upstart is subbing entire articles...
[17:58:32] <cmn32480> that bastard
[17:58:42] <Bytram> I was wondering how long it was going to last!
[17:59:32] <Bytram> Actrually, she's been nice, but I gotta do some housekeeping before I invite her in.
[18:00:24] <cmn32480> yes.. hide all the Adult materials
[18:00:25] <Bytram> this could take quite a while, actually... good thing the queue is in good shape atm!
[18:00:37] <Bytram> ain't got none
[18:00:51] <cmn32480> that's what I'd say too.
[18:01:00] <cmn32480> and I hope the landlord is young and cute
[18:01:13] <Bytram> It's the piles of paperwork that need arranging
[18:01:27] <Bytram> yep.
[18:01:29] <cmn32480> go clean up
[18:01:33] <Bytram> gtg, laters!
[18:01:38] <cmn32480> I'll catch you late
[18:01:41] <cmn32480> rr
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[19:36:19] <Bytram> =notes
[19:36:36] <Bytram> =note
[19:40:01] <Bytram> =cite https://iopscience.iop.org
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[20:30:35] <Bytram> =g science daily Graphdiyne
[20:30:36] <systemd> https://www.sciencedaily.com - Two-dimensional carbon networks: Graphdiyne as a functional ...
[20:31:25] <Bytram> =cite http://dx.doi.org
[20:31:26] <systemd> Journal Reference: Chipeng Xie, Xiuli Hu, Zhaoyong Guan, et al. Tuning the Properties of Graphdiyne by Introducing Electron‐Withdrawing/Donating Groups, <cite>Angewandte Chemie International Edition</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1002/anie.202004454">10.1002/anie.202004454</a>)
[20:38:57] <Bytram> =g jack and dianne lyrics mellencamp
[20:38:58] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - John Mellencamp - Jack & Diane - YouTube;
[20:39:13] <chromas> What happened to the Cougar?
[20:39:18] <Bytram> =g "lyrics" jack and dianne mellencamp
[20:39:19] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - JACK AND DIANE john mellencamp [Lyrics!!] - YouTube
[20:39:43] <chromas> Do we need a lyric bot?
[20:39:45] <Bytram> =g "lyrics" jack and dianne mellencamp -youtube
[20:39:45] <systemd> https://www.azlyrics.com - John Cougar - Jack And Diane Lyrics | AZLyrics.com
[20:40:19] <Bytram> nope... I'm just on a rock and role
[20:40:36] <Bytram> =notes
[20:40:36] <systemd> ♩ (♩) ♪ (♪) ♫ (♫) ♬ (♬) 🎜 (🎜) 🎝 (🎝) 🎵 (🎵) 🎶 (🎶)
[20:42:35] <chromas> There's a project for NCommander: fix unicode in the dept. field
[20:43:18] <chromas> I wonder if it's just the data type of the field in the db. Doesn't it need to be utf8mb4 or some weird thing?
[20:43:31] <Bytram> db == db
[20:43:49] <Bytram> nope... nothing fancy about the *field*
[20:45:21] <Bytram> it's about how the code goes about round-tripping things through the field-as-displayed and field-as-edited, I think... might be one-too-many trips through a filter
[20:47:44] <chromas> well I remember you guys had to tweak the db to get unichode working right
[20:48:45] <Bytram> yep... that was an all for everything deal, and then tracking down some issues.
[20:49:06] <Bytram> 1) the DB had to be updated to accept Unicode
[20:49:24] <Bytram> 2) Perl needed updating to handle Unicode
[20:50:06] <Bytram> 3) Code needed updating to make sure the right number of things were being done-in-a-row.
[20:50:51] <chromas> That's why you should be using mongodb
[20:51:03] <Bytram> that was a *huge* effort
[20:51:29] <Bytram> I ain't gonna change the DB... You do it!
[20:56:37] <chromas> If I was doing it, I'd rebuild the whole thing in D :)
[20:57:56] <Bytram> Why stop there? Move on to E F and G!
[20:58:18] <chromas> F's a real language; dunno about the others
[20:58:43] <chromas> Should be a rule34-like rule for programming languages
[20:58:44] <Bytram> G... Y?
[20:59:10] <chromas> If you can think of it, someone made it into a language or something
[20:59:30] <Bytram> Of all the languages that programmers know, universal among them is profanity.
[20:59:38] <chromas> fuck yeah
[21:00:00] <chromas> I bet there're more programming languages than there are emacs keybindings
[21:00:01] <Bytram> I "C" what you did there
[21:00:25] <Bytram> I suspect you just might lose that bet.
[21:01:40] <chromas> Look daddy! Every time an emacs function is invoked, a language gets its wings!
[21:01:57] <Bytram> ding! ding! ding! ding!
[21:06:13] <Bytram> .
[21:06:30] <Bytram> commencing weekend story spacing
[21:06:32] <Bytram> .
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[21:31:19] <Bytram> Ugh. Pics are huge in Linus story... fixing
[21:31:42] <chromas> Needs clickable thumbnails