#editorial | Logs for 2020-04-13

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[01:13:47] <Fnord666> =cite https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:13:48] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b><br/> Condensed matter: Bethe strings experimentally observed: Long-standing prediction of quantum physics now proven, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/"></a>)</p>
[01:13:48] <exec> └─ 13Condensed matter: Bethe strings experimentally observed: Long-standing prediction of quantum physics now proven -- ScienceDaily
[01:14:09] <Fnord666> =cite http://dx.doi.org
[01:14:13] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b><br/>Anup Kumar Bera, Jianda Wu, Wang Yang <em>et al</em>. Dispersions of many-body Bethe strings, <cite>Nature Physics</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/doi:10.1038/s41567-020-0835-7">doi:10.1038/s41567-020-0835-7</a>)</p>
[01:46:02] <Bytram> chromas: Looks like your web page is having issues? When I load "https://chromas.0x.no/s/sn_sub.php" I get the message: "No input file specified."
[01:46:03] <systemd> ^ 03Object not found!
[01:46:04] <exec> └─ 13Object not found!
[01:51:34] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:51:38] <exec> └─ 13In a first, NASA measures wind speed on a brown dwarf -- ScienceDaily
[01:51:38] <exec> 417 stories loaded
[01:51:39] <exec> story not found
[01:51:51] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:51:52] <systemd> Submitting "In a first, NASA measures wind speed on a brown dwarf"...
[01:51:52] <exec> └─ 13In a first, NASA measures wind speed on a brown dwarf -- ScienceDaily
[01:52:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03In a First, NASA Measures Wind Speed on a Brown Dwarf" (12 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:02:25] <chromas> that's weird
[02:05:40] <chromas> The feed reader still works, but other scripts don't
[02:07:42] <Bytram> =cite https://doi.org
[02:07:45] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b><br/>Elham M. T. Fadaly, Alain Dijkstra, Jens Ren&#232; Suckert <em>et al</em>. Direct-bandgap emission from hexagonal Ge and SiGe alloys, <cite>Nature</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/doi:10.1038/s41586-020-2150-y">doi:10.1038/s41586-020-2150-y</a>)</p>
[02:07:46] <exec> └─ 13303 See Other
[02:07:50] <Bytram> ididndonuthin
[02:12:33] <chromas> double weird
[02:12:42] <chromas> Well anyhow, restarting php-fpm seems to've fixed it
[02:12:50] <chromas> Nothing in the logs
[02:13:04] <chromas> Bytram++ # thanks for the bug report
[02:13:04] <Bender> karma - bytram: 93
[02:33:23] <Bytram> chromas: hth! If there's nothing in the logs, maybe you need to look further out... maybe on the branches or twigs?
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[11:31:17] <Bytram> =g Viarofar
[11:31:18] <systemd> [0 results]
[11:31:25] <Bytram> #g Viarofar
[11:31:25] <MrPlow> sorry, there were no results for your query
[11:58:47] <Bytram> whereto? http://rss.computerworld.com
[11:58:49] <systemd> ^ 03Remote working, now and forevermore? ( https://www.computerworld.com )
[11:58:49] <exec> └─ 13400 Bad Request
[12:04:55] <Bytram> whereto? https://go.theregister.co.uk
[12:04:55] <systemd> ^ 03Suspicious senate stock sale spurt spurs scrutiny scheme: This website tracks which shares US senators are unloading mid-pandemic ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[12:04:56] <exec> └─ 13Suspicious senate stock sale spurt spurs scrutiny scheme: This website tracks which shares US senators are unloading mid-pandemic • The Register
[12:06:37] <janrinok> ~gday Bytram - how's things?
[12:06:39] * exec dianetically mixes an NTFS volume of lean finely textured beef with Bytram
[12:08:25] <Bytram> whereto? https://senatestockwatcher.com
[12:08:25] <systemd> ^ 03Senate Stock Watcher - See What Senators are Trading
[12:08:26] <exec> └─ 13Senate Stock Watcher - See What Senators are Trading
[12:08:40] <Bytram> ~gday janrinok
[12:08:41] * exec proverbially flings a data stream of eagle pie at janrinok
[12:09:36] <Bytram> Wet. Heavy rain predicted today with a strong chance of thunderstorms. That is, however, better than getting all this as snow
[12:10:46] <janrinok> we've had a very warm and sunny weekend until today - it's now changing to being cooler and showery
[12:11:16] <Bytram> Yesterday started sunny and warmer, but today... not so much.
[12:11:34] <janrinok> I've been trying to do some programming but I am just so mentally tired that I don't seem to be able to do anything useful at all
[12:13:06] <Bytram> it's hard enough to program some things at the best of the times! With all the virus-related activity, doubly so.
[12:13:52] <Bytram> =folding-rank
[12:13:52] <systemd> Rank: 10229 | WUs: 10123229 | Score: 101227853177 (10Mon Apr 13 11:26:09 GMT 2020)
[12:14:50] <Bytram> cmn32480: is on the cusp of 300 million points =) https://apps.foldingathome.org
[12:14:51] <systemd> ^ 03Folding@home team 230319 stats
[12:14:52] <exec> └─ 13Folding@home team 230319 stats
[12:15:15] <Bytram> ~time x
[12:15:16] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Monday, 13 April 2020, 12:15 pm
[12:15:48] <Bytram> Ahh, the folding-rank timestamp seems to be that of the last data update?
[12:15:58] <Bytram> =folding-rank
[12:15:59] <systemd> Rank: 10229 | WUs: 10123229 | Score: 101227853177 (10Mon Apr 13 11:26:09 GMT 2020)
[12:16:36] <Bytram> yep, ~two minutes had passed and no change in the presented date/time stamp.
[12:16:44] <janrinok> impressive
[12:16:55] <Bytram> =folding-rank SoylentNews.org
[12:16:56] <systemd> Rank: 10229 | WUs: 10123229 | Score: 101227853177 (10Mon Apr 13 11:26:09 GMT 2020)
[12:17:01] <Bytram> =folding-rank cmn32480
[12:17:01] <systemd> Rank: 10229 | WUs: 10123229 | Score: 101227853177 (10Mon Apr 13 11:26:09 GMT 2020)
[12:17:12] <Bytram> was worth a shot
[12:17:34] <janrinok> why are you expecting it to update that quickly. It only counts the WU a certain number of times per day
[12:17:42] <Bytram> janrinok: Sorry to hear all this stuff is taking a toll on you.
[12:18:18] <Bytram> The last check was to see if (a) the timestamp was that of the last update or (b) the timestamp of when the user issued their query
[12:18:29] <janrinok> I can do physical stuff that doesn't require thinking but otherwise I end up sitting in front of the computer and achieving nothing at all
[12:22:20] <Bytram> Sometimes, doing nothing is exactly what I need to do. Look out the window and just watch the clouds and the critters and the plants and stuff. Kind of like letting the tub in my brain (which is full of thoughts) drain for a while... absence of focussed thought is like turning the taps off.
[12:22:40] <Bytram> Some days are just no-think-ums
[12:24:08] <janrinok> what I actually need is a break - my last free day was last year. But there is not much likelihood of that in the next few months as the care homes are not taking temporary residents due to isolation and protection of their full-time residents
[12:24:09] <Bytram> When that happens, I just try and accept that today is going to be one of _those_ days, and rather than fight the tide, just go with it and do the things I can. Like physical stuff. Sorting files. Cleaning up clutter. Whatever.
[12:24:32] <Bytram> {{{ janrinok }}}
[12:24:45] <janrinok> thanks - appreciated.
[12:25:51] <Bytram> Is there nobody who might be able to, if not entirely remove the burdens, at least help lessen them so you can figuratively catch your breath?
[12:26:26] <Bytram> Any lessened load is one less straw on the camel's back.
[12:28:09] <janrinok> nobody is allowed in or out of the home so, apart from the 2 visits by nurses each day that is a non-starter
[12:33:07] <Bytram> "the home"? Yours? Or... everybody is forbidden from leaving *their* homes? (I'm thinking someone could, for example, pick up and deliver groceries to your doorstep?)
[12:34:38] <janrinok> I can go shopping. When S usually goes into a home as a respite break for me I usually sleep for 14-18 hours on the first day alone. It then reduces over the next couple of weeks until I am sleeping the normal 8 hours per night and then she returns.
[12:35:48] <Bytram> speechless
[12:37:03] <janrinok> ... it's just the way it is - cue music
[12:39:32] <Bytram> I so wish there were something I could do to help!
[12:40:30] <Bytram> I realize that working on this site and programming are things that give you a respite... is there anything else that can help?
[12:41:07] <janrinok> It reminds me of when I was in Bosnia on ops. I came back on a 2 week R and R and S had arranged a walking holiday in the very beautiful scenic part of the UK. It hadn't occurred to her that I had just spent 6 months doing that as a job!
[12:41:46] <Bytram> *** groan! ***
[12:42:04] <janrinok> no, there is nothing you can do to help, but thanks for the thought. Just talking about it has helped. Don't worry, we will cope.
[12:42:40] <Bytram> ummm, hwalla? molim? (I kinda know some phonetics but no idea on the spelling!)
[12:43:14] <janrinok> no, that isn't a problem, but thanks again
[12:43:27] <Bytram> And that's for a neighboring country -- don't know how much overlap there is.
[12:43:38] <janrinok> enough!
[12:43:50] <Bytram> spacebo!
[12:59:51] <Bytram> afk, biab
[13:40:01] <Bytram> =submit https://www.schneier.com
[13:40:02] <systemd> Submitting "Contact Tracing COVID-19 Infections via Smartphone Apps - Schneier on Security"...
[13:40:05] <exec> └─ 13Contact Tracing COVID-19 Infections via Smartphone Apps - Schneier on Security
[13:40:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Contact Tracing COVID-19 Infections Via Smartphone Apps - Schneier on Security" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:04:18] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.sciencedaily.com
[14:04:20] <exec> └─ 13Testing Einstein's theory of general relativity -- ScienceDaily
[14:04:20] <exec> 220 stories loaded
[14:04:21] <exec> story not found
[14:05:02] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[14:05:03] <systemd> Submitting "Testing Einstein's theory of general relativity"...
[14:05:03] <exec> └─ 13Testing Einstein's theory of general relativity -- ScienceDaily
[14:05:10] <Bytram> ~arthur https://phys.org
[14:05:12] <exec> 220 stories loaded
[14:05:13] <exec> └─ 13Trump signs an executive order allowing mining the moon and asteroids
[14:05:13] <exec> story not found
[14:05:21] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[14:05:23] <systemd> Submitting "Trump signs an executive order allowing mining the moon and asteroids"...
[14:05:23] <exec> └─ 13Trump signs an executive order allowing mining the moon and asteroids
[14:05:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Testing Einstein's Theory of General Relativity" (5 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:05:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Trump Signs an Executive Order Allowing Mining the Moon and Asteroids" (33 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:13:54] <Bytram> =submit There is so far no evidence that cats can transmit SARS-CoV-2 to humans, but there is <em>preliminary evidence</em> that cats can be infected: https://www.biorxiv.org
[14:13:56] <systemd> Submitting "SARS-CoV-2 neutralizing serum antibodies in cats: a serological investigation"...
[14:14:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03SARS-CoV-2 Neutralizing Serum Antibodies in Cats: a Serological Investigation" (2 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[14:50:53] <Bytram> =g "Bidirectional optical signal transmission between two identical devices using perovskite diodes"
[14:50:54] <systemd> https://www.nature.com - Bidirectional optical signal transmission between two identical ...
[14:51:04] <Bytram> =g "Bidirectional optical signal transmission between two identical devices using perovskite diodes" -nature.com
[14:51:05] <systemd> https://www.researchgate.net - Bidirectional optical signal transmission between two identical ...
[14:51:14] <Bytram> =g "Bidirectional optical signal transmission between two identical devices using perovskite diodes" -nature.com -researchgate
[14:51:15] <systemd> https://www.sciencedaily.com - A combined optical transmitter and receiver: Bidirectional optical ...
[14:51:52] <Bytram> https://liu.se
[14:51:55] <systemd> ^ 03A combined optical transmitter and receiver
[14:51:56] <exec> └─ 13A combined optical transmitter and receiver - Linköping University
[15:05:04] <Bytram> =g perovskite
[15:05:05] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Perovskite - Wikipedia
[15:06:23] <janrinok> Bytram, it's already in the submissions queue
[15:12:57] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[15:12:59] * exec $adverb generates a small script that substitutes a rusty trombone of money for janrinok
[15:13:04] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[15:13:05] * exec happily ships some chewy chunks of toejam with bytram
[15:13:31] <cmn32480> yet another example of the best way to win is not to play...
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[15:47:39] <Bytram> ~gday cmn32480
[15:47:40] * exec repeatedly redundantly evolves a raid 2 volume of dollars from cmn32480
[16:36:20] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480 - I was just preparing and eating my dinner earlier. How's things?
[16:36:22] * exec crutchyly farts a bunch of inspiration at cmn32480
[16:37:37] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.sciencemag.org
[16:37:39] <exec> 314 stories loaded
[16:37:40] <exec> attempting to submit story: "‘Suppress and lift:’ Hong Kong and Singapore say they have a coronavirus strategy that works"
[16:38:03] <Bytram> dinner? Reminds me I should get some breakfast!
[16:38:10] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[16:38:16] <exec> 314 stories loaded
[16:39:44] <cmn32480> sorry was OTP
[16:39:47] <cmn32480> things here are good.
[16:39:52] <cmn32480> a little tired... but good
[16:40:02] <cmn32480> we had a Hawaiian shirt Easter dinner at home alst night
[16:40:04] <Bytram> good to "see" you!
[16:40:25] <cmn32480> you too
[16:40:30] <cmn32480> hows things going?
[16:40:46] * Bytram is expecting a major thunderstorm through here within the next few hours... along with high winds. Power outages are a possibility
[16:41:04] <cmn32480> we had that last night adn this morning
[16:41:13] <cmn32480> more thunderstorms expected this afternoon
[16:41:18] <Bytram> okay. Dropping barometer and waking too early (or staying up too late?) ... tired
[16:41:26] <Bytram> hope you made it through okay?
[16:41:54] <cmn32480> oh yeah
[16:42:12] <cmn32480> no damage... but I melted a little walking to the car in the torrential downpour this morning
[16:42:24] <Bytram> I bet it sure beats the huge snowstorm of a few years back
[16:42:32] <janrinok> OTP - I know you mean on the phone, but to me that means Off The Plot!
[16:42:54] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[16:42:56] <exec> └─ 13Team designs carbon nanostructure stronger than diamonds
[16:42:56] <systemd> Submitting "Team designs carbon nanostructure stronger than diamonds"...
[16:43:05] <cmn32480> pfft... I wish it was snow!
[16:43:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Team Designs Carbon Nanostructure Stronger Than Diamonds" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:43:19] <cmn32480> we had exactly zero snow this year
[16:43:26] * Bytram is trying to stuff the queue so he can nap and also make it past any power outage
[16:43:35] <cmn32480> only time the snow blower got turned on was when I moved it to the garage from the shed
[16:44:02] * cmn32480 considers lunch since it is past janrinoks dinner time
[16:44:19] <Bytram> we had plenty even before xmas (rare around here) occasional through jan and into feb. Overall I'd guess less than usual all tolled
[16:44:32] * Bytram is slow on some things and consider breakfast
[16:44:58] <cmn32480> mmmmm breaskfast... my favorite meal of the day
[16:45:01] <cmn32480> any time of day!]
[16:46:48] <Bytram> can you say "Denny's" or "IHOP" or "Cracker Barrel" or...
[16:47:23] <Bytram> =g science daily "Seasonal changes in NRF2 antioxidant pathway regulates winter depression-like behavior"
[16:47:24] <systemd> https://www.pnas.org - Seasonal changes in NRF2 antioxidant pathway regulates winter ...
[16:47:33] <cmn32480> currently I won't eat out virtually anywhere... but my home kitchen is stocked enough to get me to be able to make most stuff
[16:48:15] <Bytram> likewise... prolly good for 6-8 weeks atm
[16:48:44] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[16:48:46] <systemd> Submitting "Discovery of a drug to rescue winter depression-like behavior"...
[16:48:46] <exec> └─ 13Discovery of a drug to rescue winter depression-like behavior
[16:48:46] <cmn32480> we are hitting the store <1/wk
[16:49:04] <cmn32480> even wiht my oldest being as close to a trash compactor as is humanly possible
[16:49:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Discovery of a Drug to Rescue Winter Depression-like Behavior" (7 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:50:25] <Bytram> I normally only went grocery shopping every couple weeks or so, anyway...
[16:50:47] <cmn32480> far easier to store enough for 1 than 5...
[16:50:50] <Bytram> when the distancing stuff started, made some extra trips to stock p
[16:50:57] <Bytram> tru
[16:50:58] <cmn32480> we did the same
[16:51:03] <Bytram> good!
[16:51:48] <cmn32480> trying to stay out of the stores as much as possible right now
[16:52:09] <cmn32480> except Lowes. I seem to end up there at least once a week lately
[16:52:10] <Bytram> my stocking arrangement is not the ... prettiest, but it is affective and if I can deal with it, then it's good enough. No alternate perspectives for me to have to deal with.
[16:52:17] <Bytram> Hey
[16:52:38] <Bytram> Remember the 43" TV I got to use as a monitor?
[16:53:00] <cmn32480> yeah
[16:53:17] <cmn32480> working good, or too big unless you are sitting on the bed 15 feet away?
[16:53:30] <Bytram> I've been looking around for some kind of mount that I can clamp to my desk, and which has an arm I can adjust to move it up/down, fwd/back, twist/shout (!)
[16:53:42] <Bytram> Is great!
[16:53:42] <cmn32480> ok
[16:53:51] <cmn32480> there are toms of them out there
[16:53:55] <cmn32480> *tons
[16:54:02] <Bytram> Almost all I've found have been too small
[16:54:50] <cmn32480> Clamp? Drill? freestanding?
[16:54:58] <Bytram> My TV weighs 18.5 lbs, 43" diagonal, and the panel is 38" width x 22" tall
[16:55:00] <Bytram> clamp
[16:55:30] <Bytram> Oh, VESA mount 200mmx200mm
[16:56:02] <Bytram> I'd like the bottom of the panel to be about 10" above the desk
[16:56:33] <Bytram> ever see anything like that at Lowe's
[16:56:38] <cmn32480> no
[16:56:41] <Bytram> k
[16:56:50] <cmn32480> most of the ones for PC mounts top out at 27"
[16:56:55] <Bytram> no luck at wally world or Best Buy, so far
[16:56:58] <cmn32480> but I will keep my eyes open
[16:56:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:57:04] <Bytram> obliged
[16:57:39] <janrinok> is there a reason that you don't want a wall mount? Is it permitted in your appt?
[16:57:45] <Bytram> hence my realization yesterday to check out mounting for TVs, and then realized home improvement stores might be a good place to check out
[16:58:35] <cmn32480> https://smile.amazon.com
[16:58:35] <systemd> ^ 03Robot Check ( https://www.amazon.com )
[16:58:52] <cmn32480> I mean, what's an inch between friends?
[16:58:58] <Bytram> janrinok: Prolly permitted, but then it would also be too far back from the desk (which I mounted on heavy duty casters)
[16:59:18] <Bytram> =yt I can't get no satisfaction
[16:59:19] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Rolling Stones - (I Can&#39;t Get No) Satisfaction (Official Lyric Video) (3:55)
[17:01:15] <Bytram> I saw that one... seems all the adjustments are manual and required tightening/loosening with an Allen wrench. Just look at the hight adjustment, for example. Means hefting and lowering by hand while being able to loosen tighten screw at same time. :P
[17:01:16] <janrinok> the pole mount on the linked stand is 16", but presumably that is to a point half way up the screen. Would that give you 10" clearance from the desk?
[17:02:05] <cmn32480> so you wnat a hydraulic assist unit?
[17:02:22] * cmn32480 looks in Bytram's wallet...
[17:02:50] <Bytram> the VESA pattern on the back of my TV is about 4' from bottom of panel
[17:03:01] <Bytram> cmn32480: yep
[17:03:25] <janrinok> or somebody to hold it while he tightens it up using the allen key - I am also thinking what if it were my wallet...
[17:03:54] <Bytram> If I can wait a while, I'm sure a bunch will become avail when struggling companies unload stuff... just to raise $$$ or during bankruptcy
[17:04:52] <cmn32480> https://smile.amazon.com
[17:04:53] <systemd> ^ 03Robot Check ( https://www.amazon.com )
[17:04:54] * Bytram has lived alone for so long, just assumed would need to sol\o it... and even then, will certainly want to fine tune it after what *seemed* like a good idea at the time!
[17:05:11] <Bytram> no holes in desk, please (grommet mount)
[17:05:46] <Bytram> holy $$$ that costs more than what I paid for the TV!
[17:06:00] <cmn32480> it has both
[17:06:07] <Bytram> k
[17:06:13] <Bytram> still $$ is to much
[17:06:14] <Bytram> brb
[17:15:54] <Bytram> Desk is 60" wide by 30" dwep and 1" thick. I have two reams of paper stacked on LHD and two more on RHS with a 3/4" x 12" x 60" piece of plywood across them. On that, I have a ream of paper under each of the TV's legs. My blu-ray player player and HDMI are centered on the plywood under the TV. Bookshelf speakers on plywood on either side of TV. 3 lappys on desk, each with full-size kbds. in frmo of the plywood riser.
[17:16:06] <Bytram> typos!
[17:16:51] <Bytram> Desk is 60" wide by 30" deep and 1" thick. I have two reams of paper stacked on LHS and two more stacked on RHS with a 3/4" x 12" x 60" piece of plywood across them. On that, I have a ream of paper under each of the TV's legs. My blu-ray player player and HDMI are centered on the plywood under the TV. Bookshelf speakers on plywood on either side of TV. 3 lappys on desk, each with full-size kbds in front of the plywood riser.
[17:20:38] * Bytram just pushed the stacked reams of paper back about an inch or two... not perfect, but it helps and the price was right, too!
[17:21:02] <cmn32480> if you turn them sideways they take up less room front to back
[17:22:09] <Bytram> Would like to be able to have enough space under the plywood to tuck the lappys under it. Would free up a lot of desktop space.
[17:22:54] <Bytram> Not that I put *that* much of a load on 'em, but I am nervous about running 'em with the lid closed. Should I be?
[17:23:59] <Bytram> Tj Max for CPU is 105C and I rarely see it over 70C, peak. But, would be ideal to keep it under, say, 45C so fans are either off or at low speed.
[17:24:07] <cmn32480> long as the fans are accessible it ought not be an issue
[17:24:53] <cmn32480> I typically raise the back end of my laptops to allow better airflow than the teeny rubber pads allow
[17:24:55] <Bytram> once I unloaded amazon pages, my current temps are ~50C
[17:25:52] <Bytram> I cut up a length of 2"x2" lumber into 2" lengths to make cubes and use 4 of those under my lappy to give it plenty of room for air flow.
[17:26:10] <Bytram> MacGuyer has nothin on me!
[17:26:20] <Bytram> =)
[17:26:58] <cmn32480> better hair
[17:27:11] <Bytram> good to know it ought not to be an issue. I suspect that even just one inch spacing would be more than plenty and could prolly easily get away with 1/2 inch
[17:27:28] <cmn32480> definetly
[17:27:33] <Bytram> Better hair? I'll grant you he has more hair!
[17:27:40] <cmn32480> just enougfh not to impede airflow
[17:27:47] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:28:29] <Bytram> you do realize that this lappy I am using right now is coming up on 5 year's use?!!! TYVM!
[17:28:37] <cmn32480> yup
[17:28:49] <cmn32480> I'm glad it has a home that isn't a junk pile
[17:29:01] <Bytram> Can't think of any recycling place that could have got more use out of it!
[17:29:34] <Bytram> Obliged! I think of you often when I use it and how fortunate I am.
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[17:30:08] <Bytram> Only upgrade I made was replacing spinny 500GB disk with a 1TB SSD.
[17:30:27] <Bytram> rarely go over 3 GB of the 6 GB of RAM, too.
[17:31:35] <Bytram> That said, I sometimes still wonder what it would be like to have a 16-core 32-thread 32 GB RAM system with a 1 Gbit connection to the net.
[17:31:57] <Bytram> If some is good, and more is better, then too much is not enough! Right? ;)
[17:33:14] <Bytram> But seriously, I cannot too highly recommend using a TV as a monitor. Lappy can at best drive it at 2200x1200, but still a huge step up. No tiny text, unless I want it, either! For under $300, it was *well* worth it!
[17:33:48] <Bytram> =g TCL 43S515
[17:33:49] <systemd> https://www.tclusa.com - TCL 43" Class 5-Series 4K UHD Dolby Vision HDR Roku Smart TV ...
[17:34:37] <Bytram> never hooked the TV, itself to the 'net, so is just a big monitor and has worked like a champ since I got it!
[17:36:24] * Bytram has been dreaming of pushing this one further back on the desk (hence the desk mount) and then getting two more, angled in on either side.
[17:41:04] <Bytram> ~arthir https://www.sciencedaily.com
[17:41:07] <exec> └─ 13Magnet research takes giant leap -- ScienceDaily
[17:43:40] <Bytram> =g "Improved asthma outcomes observed in the vicinity of coal power plant retirement, retrofit and conversion to natural gas"
[17:43:41] <systemd> [0 results]
[17:43:47] <Bytram> lol
[17:44:03] <Bytram> =g "http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/s41560-020-0600-2"
[17:44:04] <systemd> [0 results]
[17:44:05] <exec> └─ 13Error: DOI Not Found
[17:44:15] <Bytram> https://phys.org
[17:44:16] <systemd> ^ 03Hospitalizations down once power plants retired coal or installed better emission controls
[17:44:17] <exec> └─ 13Hospitalizations down once power plants retired coal or installed better emission controls
[17:44:24] <Bytram> =cite https://phys.org
[17:44:25] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b><br/> Hospitalizations down once power plants retired coal or installed better emission controls, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/"></a>)</p>
[17:44:25] <exec> └─ 13Hospitalizations down once power plants retired coal or installed better emission controls
[17:44:58] <Bytram> #g "Improved asthma outcomes observed in the vicinity of coal power plant retirement, retrofit and conversion to natural gas"
[17:44:59] <MrPlow> https://phys.org - "2 hours ago ... More information: Improved asthma outcomes observed in the vicinity of coal power plant retirement, retrofit and conversion to natural gas, ..."
[17:45:13] <Bytram> #g "Improved asthma outcomes observed in the vicinity of coal power plant retirement, retrofit and conversion to natural gas" -phys.org
[17:45:13] <MrPlow> sorry, there were no results for your query
[17:45:19] <Bytram> k
[17:45:51] <Bytram> hrrrm
[17:45:55] <Bytram> =g "Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health"
[17:45:56] <systemd> https://www.mailman.columbia.edu - New Test Extends Window for Accurate Detection of Zika | Columbia ...
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[17:49:04] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[17:49:05] <systemd> ^ 03Vaccine skeptics actually think differently than other people
[17:49:06] <exec> └─ 13Vaccine skeptics actually think differently than other people -- ScienceDaily
[17:49:13] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[17:49:14] <systemd> Submitting "Vaccine skeptics actually think differently than other people"...
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[17:56:22] <Bytram> =g "SN2016aps" ScienceDaily
[17:56:23] <systemd> [0 results]
[17:56:28] <Bytram> =g "SN2016aps" Science Daily
[17:56:29] <systemd> https://www.cfa.harvard.edu - Scientists Discover Brightest Supernova Ever Seen2020-06 | www ...
[18:00:50] <Bytram> =submit https://www.cfa.harvard.edu <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/ > +http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/s41550-020-1066-7 </p>
[18:00:54] <exec> └─ 13Scientists Discover Brightest Supernova Ever Seen2020-06 | www.cfa.harvard.edu/
[18:00:55] <systemd> Submitting "Scientists Discover Brightest Supernova Ever Seen"...
[18:01:17] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scientists Discover Brightest Supernova Ever Seen" (14 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:03:07] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[18:03:08] <systemd> ^ 03Elon Musk says that Cybertruck is going 'plaid' and will be his future ride - Roadshow ( https://www.cnet.com )
[18:03:22] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.cnet.com
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[18:03:26] <exec> └─ 13Elon Musk says that Cybertruck is going 'plaid' and will be his future ride - Roadshow
[18:04:08] <Bytram> =submit https://www.cnet.com
[18:04:09] <exec> └─ 13Elon Musk says that Cybertruck is going 'plaid' and will be his future ride - Roadshow
[18:04:10] <systemd> Submitting "Elon Musk says that Cybertruck is going 'plaid' and will be his future ride - Roadshow"...
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[18:04:37] <Bytram> =submit https://arstechnica.com
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[18:04:39] <systemd> Submitting "Here’s an unprecedented look at Apollo 13’s damaged Service Module"...
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[18:04:59] <exec> └─ 13IBM scrambles to find or train more COBOL programmers to help states | Ars Technica
[18:04:59] <systemd> Submitting "IBM scrambles to find or train more COBOL programmers to help states"...
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[18:05:21] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03IBM Scrambles to Find or Train More COBOL Programmers to Help States" (7 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:07:37] <chromas> You could build your own stand for the tv with some wood beams and bolts and stuff
[18:08:07] <chromas> Have some sort of crank systemd for raising and lowering
[18:08:17] <chromas> s/d//
[18:08:18] <exec> <chromas> Have some sort of crank system for raising and lowering
[18:12:22] <Bytram> chromas: I thought of that, but they always look better in my mind than in reality! Also, I want something solid so the TV doesn't "wiggle" with every keypress, either.
[18:13:35] <chromas> You can hide the looks by building shelves on all sides of it and stacking stuff on it :)
[18:15:05] <Bytram> Did you see, in the scrollback, of my hopes someday to get two more 43" TVs and wing them out to the sides of the current central TV?
[18:25:57] <chromas> No but you can just make room on your homemade mount for five more tvs :)
[19:06:28] <Bytram> out for a bit; story queue is good for a while (OTOH, if you want to put some extra padding in =)
[19:06:47] <Bytram> running errands; out for a bit.
[20:54:18] <chromas> =yt have you finished with those errands
[20:54:19] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Have you finished those errands (24)
[22:31:57] <Bytram> =g "Saluting the Heroes of the Coronavirus Pandumbic"
[22:31:58] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - 'Yikes!' Amanpour reacts to Fox News montage about virus - YouTube
[22:32:05] <Bytram> =yt "Saluting the Heroes of the Coronavirus Pandumbic"
[22:32:06] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Saluting the Heroes of the Coronavirus Pandumbic | The Daily Show (3:5)
[22:41:07] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.sciencedaily.com
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[22:41:46] <systemd> Submitting "Study finds remdesivir effective against a key enzyme of coronavirus that causes COVID-19: Remdesivir already in human trials in search for treatment of deadly disease"...
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[22:42:10] <Bytram> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
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[22:52:15] <Bytram> ~arthur https://phys.org
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[22:54:09] <Bytram> ~arthur https://phys.org
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[22:54:33] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[22:54:34] <systemd> ^ 03Zoom: Every security issue uncovered in the video chat app ( https://www.cnet.com )
[22:54:43] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission - maybe try again in a minute
[22:54:49] <Bytram> ~arthur https://phys.org
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[22:58:30] <Bytram> ~arthur http://feedproxy.google.com
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[22:58:37] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[22:58:38] <systemd> ^ 03Tesla's robotaxi fleet will be 'functionally ready' in 2020, Musk says - Roadshow ( https://www.cnet.com )
[22:58:48] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.cnet.com
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