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[01:53:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> oi, Bytram, i don't mind yall yoinking a bit of my snark out of a sub but don't add stuff in my voice, please.
[01:58:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is to say, polite me up if you like but do not socialist me up. is no teh cool.
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[10:43:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Yeah. I blew that one. Had three things vying in my mind about keeping story balanced, trying to not add my own bias, and getting the story out before going to bed (I was knackered). Consider me humbled and I will take this to heart going on.
[10:43:02] <Bytram> ~blame
[10:43:03] * exec points at Bytram
[10:52:50] <Bytram> janrinok: FYI: I got an email from Dean. Barring any surprises, we'll be trying to start training this afternoon... at about 13 hours from now. =)
[10:54:43] <Bytram> janrinok++ I see you are sneaking up on posting your 5,100th story. Thank You!!!
[10:54:43] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 84
[10:56:12] <Bytram> Oh, and just in case others did not notice, mrpg is still around! =) He made this story submission yesterday: https://soylentnews.org
[10:56:12] <systemd> ^ 03Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network: SoylentNews Submission
[10:56:13] <exec> └─ 13Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network: SoylentNews Submission
[11:07:32] <Bytram> https://go.theregister.co.uk
[11:07:32] <systemd> ^ 03Meltdown The Sequel strikes Intel chips – and full mitigation against data-meddling LVI flaw will slash performance ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[11:07:33] <exec> └─ 13Meltdown The Sequel strikes Intel chips – and full mitigation against data-meddling LVI flaw will slash performance • The Register
[11:07:44] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.theregister.co.uk
[11:07:47] <exec> └─ 13Meltdown The Sequel strikes Intel chips – and full mitigation against data-meddling LVI flaw will slash performance • The Register
[11:07:47] <exec> 647 stories loaded
[11:07:48] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Meltdown The Sequel strikes Intel chips – and full mitigation against data-meddling LVI flaw will slash performance"
[11:08:18] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[11:08:24] <exec> 647 stories loaded
[11:27:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[11:27:34] * exec seductively internalizes an us of white privilege in Bytram
[11:28:28] * TheMightyBuzzard takes the cone of shame from the neighbor's cat and passes it to bytram
[11:28:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> up side, it should keep you from touching your face and getting the corona virus
[12:06:10] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:06:12] * exec redundantly derives a gigabyte of Diet Double Dew from TheMightyBuzzard
[12:06:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i prolly got enough caffeine in me for that
[12:07:56] * Bytram remembers a time before "Energy Drinks" were a thing when Mountain Dew was the programmer's beverage of choice. I found it sickeningly sweet and stuck with regular old Coke until I was able to learn to drink coffee.
[12:08:00] <Bytram> lol
[12:08:06] <Bytram> #weather TheMightyBuzzard
[12:08:07] <MrPlow> 1576 East Main St, Humboldt, TN 38343, USA - Today: "Rain in the morning and afternoon." 60/53F, Humidity: 94%, Precip: 91%, Wind ~5mph. Thu: "Light rain starting in the afternoon." 69/47F, Humidity: 96%, Precip: 89%, Wind ~10mph. Fri: "Overcast throughout the day." 57/44F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 45%, Wind ~12mph.
[12:08:21] <Bytram> how's the French drain been holding up?
[12:08:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty awesome now that we've got temporary power and don't have to go fire up the generator to pump it out
[12:09:33] <Bytram> wait... it requires power to work? I thought it was drained by gravity to someplace lower on your property?
[12:09:49] <Bytram> Either way, I'm glad it is working for ya!
[12:10:33] <janrinok> Bytram, another busy day for me (and S) - I'll perhaps be back on later
[12:10:36] <janrinok> gtg
[12:10:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that don't work so well when the ground's always saturated like here in TN
[12:11:03] <Bytram> janrinok: Give her my best and keep some for yourself, too. Have a great day!
[12:12:18] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: so long as the exit point is at ground level and below the bottom of your french drain, does that matter/ I'm starting to get the impression that you have a relatively level property, so that's not an option?
[12:12:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> french drain is below the footing of a basement
[12:13:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> is no point in the yard that isn't several feet above the drain.
[12:15:19] <Bytram> yes, understood... for the "collection" of the water. Thought it was drained by gravity through an exit pipe that had an outlet away from the building. Picture a year with a slope. Building on the slope, exit pipe below the grade of the building and downill from it elsewhere on the property.
[12:15:36] <Bytram> s/year/yard/
[12:15:37] <exec> <Bytram> yes, understood... for the "collection" of the water. Thought it was drained by gravity through an exit pipe that had an outlet away from the building. Picture a yard with a slope. Building on the slope, exit pipe below the grade of the building and downill from it elsewhere on the property.
[12:16:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, we do have a slope to the yard but the lowest point in it is still well above the drain pipe at the footing
[12:17:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, well and pump
[12:17:14] <Bytram> Now I understand. You can see how I was confused?
[12:17:16] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:18:05] <Bytram> Worse comes to worst, it fills with water, you could always go fishing!
[12:18:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now it just pumps out on the parking lot. TR won't let me put in a statue of a guy leaning against the fence and whizzing into a gutter as a water outlet
[12:19:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, we got a spare pump and a generator. should never become an issue unless the power goes out for an extended time while we're gone.
[12:20:47] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:21:25] <Bytram> How 'bout a statue of a fish with the water spouting from its mouth?
[12:21:43] <Bytram> Or, a whale, spouting?
[12:21:47] <Bytram> =)
[12:21:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, if it's not a person or at least a dog whizzing, where's the funny?
[12:23:05] <Bytram> Heh. Maybe post a story in your journal asking for ideas? We've got a creative lot here, I'm sure they can some up with *something*!
[12:25:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> may do that before i take off to OK sunday and check it when i get back the weekend after
[12:25:54] <Bytram> Oh? You'll be away/ Dates please? (So I can plan out when I can wreak the most damage, of course!) j/k!!
[12:27:15] <Bytram> be sure to bring your keys, and let's make sure all the servers are actually up and running before you leave, too! (ISTR a time when one of our front ends(?) fell over and the other one was no there to take over 'cause it had been down/non-functional for a couple months(?))
[12:27:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> 15th until the 23rd at the latest
[12:27:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> db not frontend
[12:28:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'd notice if a front end died cause half the people would be served up errors
[12:29:03] <Bytram> TIL, thanks for that!
[12:29:23] <Bytram> obliged for the info, too.
[12:29:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> taking my keys wouldn't help though. i ain't gonna be able to ssh worth a shit from a phone.
[12:29:54] <Bytram> nobody there has a laptop?
[12:30:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, prolly. not that it'd matter cause they got carrier pigeons for internet service.
[12:30:40] <Bytram> TCP over avian carrier, got it
[12:30:57] <Bytram> btw, you got a good LOL out of me for that one.
[12:31:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i'm just a wacky guy
[12:31:32] <Bytram> You *could* try using your phone as a hotspot and get a feel for how I've been doing things here for the past half-dozen years. ')
[12:32:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could, if my phone got service out there. it occasionally has one bar but usually none. dead spot in the boonies.
[12:32:49] <Bytram> Now *that* could be a problem!
[12:33:37] <Bytram> Is that the same area near that pyramid(?)-shaped outdoors store? Or am I getting things all confused?
[12:33:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> new location from what i usually go to. AT&T gets service there but sprint is for shit and it's around ten miles from the nearest internet-happy cables.
[12:34:08] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:34:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> way confused. the pyramid is in memphis right at the mississippi river. bass pro.
[12:34:42] <Bytram> Just in case I forget to mention it, later: Best wishes for the trip
[12:35:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> when i say right at, i mean less than 50 feet from.
[12:35:18] <Bytram> aha, that's the name. Didn't ring true for me, but it did come to mind, so I had to ask to get things clear in my head.
[12:35:24] <Bytram> nod mod
[12:35:47] * TheMightyBuzzard glares at the clock
[12:36:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt 8duJkBelS78
[12:36:34] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Bang the Drum All Day
[12:36:43] <Bytram> ROFL!
[12:36:51] * Bytram hasn't heard that song in years
[12:37:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> unfortunately the drum kit is up at the church too
[12:38:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, ima go nicotine up and sit in my reading chair (the one with the hole in the seat) a bit before i go get stuffs done
[12:39:41] <Bytram> nod nid
[12:39:45] <Bytram> thanks for the chat!
[12:39:49] <Bytram> Have a great day@
[12:40:00] <Bytram> break time for me, as well.
[12:40:03] <Bytram> laters!
[19:11:57] <Bytram> =g pandemic
[19:11:58] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Pandemic - Wikipedia
[19:12:04] <Bytram> =g epidemic
[19:12:05] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Epidemic - Wikipedia
[19:40:02] <Bytram> whereto? https://arstechnica.com
[19:40:03] <systemd> ^ 03Pandemic declared as COVID-19 blazes across globe ( https://arstechnica.com )
[19:40:03] <exec> └─ 13Pandemic declared as COVID-19 blazes across globe | Ars Technica
[19:54:07] <carny> only a month behind me
[19:54:22] <Bytram> carny: Huh?
[19:54:24] <carny> maybe i should have gotten a job there instead
[19:54:30] <carny> the who
[19:54:40] <Bytram> =g the who
[19:54:41] <systemd> https://www.thewho.com - Who Album - The Who
[19:54:45] <Bytram> ^^^ them?
[19:55:06] <carny> https://arstechnica.com
[19:55:07] <systemd> ^ 03Pandemic declared as COVID-19 blazes across globe
[19:55:07] <exec> └─ 13Pandemic declared as COVID-19 blazes across globe | Ars Technica
[19:55:25] <carny> w.h.o.
[19:55:37] <Bytram> oh!
[19:55:44] <carny> bunch of politicians and shills
[19:55:48] <Bytram> =g WHO roundabout
[19:55:49] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - YesSongs #7: YES - Roundabout - YouTube
[19:55:56] <Bytram> oops!
[19:56:24] <carny> this virus was a pandemic the day it escaped from the wuhan lab
[19:57:51] <Bytram> so, you are into those conspiracy theories, eh?
[19:57:59] <Bytram> =cite https://www.eso.org
[19:58:04] <systemd> Error: Couldn't find any details
[19:58:10] <Bytram> =g https://www.eso.org
[19:58:11] <systemd> https://www.eso.org - Nightside condensation of iron in an ultra-hot giant exoplanet - ESO
[19:58:22] <carny> i just know more about this shit than most people so i know how to spot the liars
[19:58:27] <Bytram> =g https://www.eso.org -www.eso.org
[19:58:27] <systemd> [0 results]
[19:59:17] <carny> you really have to be wearing a tinfoil hat to believe in all these things being 'coincidences'
[19:59:46] <carny> like china's hot lab being in the same city as the first recorded cases
[20:01:10] <Bytram> =g post hoc ergo propter hoc
[20:01:11] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Post hoc ergo propter hoc - Wikipedia
[20:01:18] <carny> lol
[20:01:43] <carny> you seem like you want to be a nice guy bytram
[20:01:52] <Bytram> =g DOI https://www.eso.org
[20:01:53] <systemd> https://www.eso.org - Nightside condensation of iron in an ultra-hot giant exoplanet - ESO
[20:02:12] <carny> but you've probably never even worn ppe let alone been within 100 miles of a bsl4
[20:02:22] <Bytram> =g "DOI" "Nightside condensation of iron in an ultra-hot giant exoplanet"
[20:02:23] <systemd> https://www.eso.org - Nightside condensation of iron in an ultra-hot giant exoplanet
[20:02:31] <carny> but you presume to tell me you know more about this stuff than i do
[20:03:14] <Bytram> so, are you telling me YOU *have* worn PPE? Been in a BSL4? In what capacity, may I ask?
[20:03:40] <carny> you may ask but i'm not doxing myself
[20:03:58] <carny> you can believe me or not it doesn't really matter much to me
[20:04:04] <Bytram> still haven't answered the other part of the question re: PPE and BSL4
[20:04:33] <carny> but if you go back in your logs you'll find out that i've been right about just about everything and the people contradicting me have been wrong
[20:05:00] <Bytram> sorry, I have nowhere near enough time to do that.
[20:05:32] <carny> but you have the time to stop me from telling people what they need to protect themselves
[20:05:57] <Bytram> please show me where I did such a thing.
[20:06:17] <carny> how many of my subs have you declined?
[20:07:01] <Bytram> offhand, none that I can recall. I generally do not handle that.
[20:07:44] <carny> you've argued against almost every thing i've said about cv
[20:07:53] <carny> so you have time for that
[20:08:29] <Bytram> a *claim* without supporting documentation will tend to get that from me.
[20:08:49] <carny> even when the claims get proven out over time?
[20:09:07] <carny> you should learn to be more humble
[20:09:16] <carny> it makes you a better analyst
[20:09:58] <carny> i was a much worse analyst until i made it my habit to work on my humility every day
[20:10:19] <Bytram> i can only discuss what I see at any given time. I take forecasts with a grain of salt as I know even my own forecasts in areas where I *do* have expertise are subject to error, and I welcome feedback to explain myself better as I am able. I do not succumb to repeated statements of "trust me"
[20:10:39] <carny> your loss i guess
[20:10:47] <Bytram> at that time
[20:11:05] <carny> i've been giving good analysis and advice since this thing started but you're not going to benefit from it
[20:12:18] <Bytram> if, later, facts bear things out, then I will review my thought process, but I could just as easily claim that I can make gold from lead... and at the time of the claim, I have little more to commend my statement than what I recall seeing you offer. Sorry, but that's how I saw it. Also...
[20:12:50] <Bytram> do be aware that I have spent over 4 decades reviewing documents and testing Computer software -- scepticism is in my DNA!
[20:13:41] <Bytram> So, until I see documentation supporting a position, it holds little more weight than anything else I see espoused on the interwebs.
[20:13:55] <Bytram> there are, sadly, far too many self-assured trolls out there.
[20:14:04] <Bytram> I am not saying you are one!
[20:14:28] <Bytram> only that I need to see something more than a self-professed claim to become convinced.
[20:15:00] <Bytram> So, it's not *you* personally. I hold the same scepticism to any promulgated point of view.
[20:19:11] <carny> well use your skepticism and go back a month and see what facts bear things out,
[20:19:46] <carny> the usa is screwed now because people haven't been taking this situation seriously for the past 2 months
[20:20:02] <carny> and now it's too late to do things properly so people are panicking
[20:20:18] <carny> fighting over toilet paper
[20:20:37] <Bytram> and, if you will look back, I ask you to show me any time where my response was anything other than, effectively, I cannot accept that conclusion based on your say so without evidence to support it.
[20:21:01] * Bytram has two month's food and TP stocked away atm =)
[20:21:55] <carny> the evidence is that my predictions are bearing out
[20:22:19] <carny> i gave plenty of links but you dismiss them
[20:24:58] <carny> there was good intel coming out of china and posted on sites that were avoiding most of the censorship
[20:25:22] <carny> and you scoffed at them because 'lol you're reading imgur?'
[20:25:26] <Bytram> IIRC, those were claims along the lines of, there is a SCL4 facility there, obviously that had to be the source. And, even now, I still have not seen evidence to support that accusation.
[20:25:46] <carny> almost all of those stories have been shown to be true
[20:25:50] <Bytram> please show me where I said that.
[20:26:33] <Bytram> please forgive me but here is this site whose story queue has run dry and I am trying to get stories out top the community.
[20:27:26] <Bytram> s/top/to/
[20:27:28] <exec> <Bytram> please forgive me but here is this site whose story queue has run dry and I am trying to get stories out to the community.
[20:30:39] <Bytram> I have yet to see a reputable and *corroborated* link that states that the virus was leaked from that BSL-4 facilty.
[20:32:45] <carny> lol
[20:32:57] <carny> yeah because china is going to admit to anything like that
[20:33:40] <carny> next you'll want evidence that bsl4s work with bio weapons
[20:34:23] <carny> that can't possibly be true because all major countries have signed non proliferation treaties
[20:34:28] <Bytram> of course they did... as much as anything so as to be able to come up with antedotes shold the variants get loose.
[20:34:30] <carny> so it's just 'conspiracy'
[20:34:58] <carny> right
[20:35:14] <carny> now show me the difference between doing defensive research and offensive research
[20:35:34] <carny> you can't because there is no such thing as offensive research that doesn't focus on defense
[20:36:58] <carny> next i'll tell you about how the chinese military hacked the hell out of the cdc during the bush administration
[20:37:09] <carny> and you'll ask me for 'evidence' of that
[20:37:27] <carny> because of course china will admit to doing it and the usa will admit that they got hacked
[20:37:36] <Bytram> didn't follow that. Please, I am coming down with some kind of cold and been sleeping much more than normal and am still tired. I lack the time or energy to continue this discussion.
[20:37:48] <carny> so there should be lots of easily searchable articles at nytimes.com
[20:38:02] <carny> rest well then
[20:38:25] <carny> for your sake i hope you don't come down with this shit just because you're in denial
[20:38:39] <Bytram> a story just came out on the site announcing the WHO has declared COVID-19 a pandemic. I'd suggest continuing the discussion there.
[20:38:46] <carny> lol
[20:38:55] <Bytram> I no longer work with the general public
[20:38:57] <Bytram> I live alone
[20:39:09] <Bytram> I employ good handwashing hygiene
[20:39:19] <Bytram> I sneeze into my elbow
[20:39:50] <Bytram> Inasmuch as I can without being paranoid, I am taking steps to protect myself and those with whom I come in contact.
[20:40:50] <Bytram> Quite frankly, I am more concerned with possibly coming down with the "normal" flu, or some other illness, than I am with COVID-19
[20:41:13] <Bytram> =g rhonavirus
[20:41:14] <systemd> https://oneclass.com - HLTB16H3 Lecture Notes - Fall 2018, Lecture 8 - Typhoid Fever ...
[20:41:20] <Bytram> nope
[20:42:20] <Bytram> what is that one where food contamination leads to simultaneous vomiting and diarrhea?
[20:42:35] <Bytram> whatever it is called, that was no fun.
[20:43:05] <Bytram> =g cellulitis this was no fun, either. Could have died if I'd waited another day to get treated.
[20:43:06] <systemd> https://www.hhs.gov - TBDWG July 24, 2018 - Written Public Comment | HHS.gov
[20:44:28] <Bytram> no ticks for me, thank goodness! Ugly little buggers!
[20:46:12] <Bytram> nope, "alpha gal" nope that ain't it
[20:46:34] <Bytram> IIRC, a bad batch of it hit during the 2016 DNC convention
[20:46:44] <Bytram> =g virus 2016 DNC convention
[20:46:45] <systemd> http://journals.sagepub.com - Why Did Khizr Khan's Speech at the 2016 Democratic National ...
[20:46:58] <Bytram> =g virus 2016 DNC convention -khizr
[20:46:59] <systemd> https://www.vox.com - How 2020 presidential campaigns and convention planners are ...
[20:47:14] <Bytram> =g virus 2016 DNC convention -khizr =-coronoavirus
[20:47:15] <systemd> https://www.vox.com - How 2020 presidential campaigns and convention planners are ...
[20:47:18] <Bytram> =g virus 2016 DNC convention -khizr -coronoavirus
[20:47:19] <systemd> https://www.vox.com - How 2020 presidential campaigns and convention planners are ...
[20:55:02] <carny> norovirus?
[20:57:54] <carny> here are some useful graphs about covid and other diseases https://imgur.com
[20:57:55] <systemd> ^ 03Found this on Facebook from the John Hopkins University. Very informative and clear to see who is most at risk. keep safe everyone.
[20:57:55] <exec> └─ 13Found this on Facebook from the John Hopkins University. Very informative and clear to see who is most at risk. keep safe everyone. - Album on Imgur
[21:04:08] <Bytram> =g norovirus
[21:04:09] <systemd> https://www.cdc.gov - Norovirus | Home | CDC
[21:07:17] <Bytram> carny: yep, that was the one. I kept struggling to decide whether I should face the toilet to puke into it, or to sit on it so I could take a crap... and it went on and on and on. Seriously considered calling an ambulance cause I was growing concerned about becoming dehydrated, and I knew I could not make a ten-minute drive to the hospital without both shitting my pants and puking all over the car.
[21:08:02] <Bytram> Thankfully, about an hour later it started to abate and I was able to avoid making the trip.
[21:08:20] <Bytram> Be *very* careful what you eat at a pot-luck dinner!
[21:41:33] <chromas> blebhlehbleh
[21:41:51] <chromas> in this thread, azumahazuki will be played by carny
[21:54:29] * Bytram is trying out a new (to him) bread machine for the first time. If all goes well, in a few hours I'll have a loaf of fresh-baked bread!
[22:03:46] <carny> http://www.marketwatch.com
[22:03:47] <systemd> ^ 03Free coronavirus testing will be offered in several states, and major health insurers are waiving out-of-pocket costs ( https://www.marketwatch.com )
[22:03:48] <exec> └─ 13Free coronavirus testing will be offered in several states, and major health insurers are waiving out-of-pocket costs - MarketWatch
[22:03:58] <carny> finally starting to get things right
[22:04:33] <carny> it won't stop the spread but it might help keep the economy from collapsing
[22:22:09] <Bytram> how do the tests work?
[22:23:19] <Bytram> do they test for the actual presence of the virus? Or, does it test for the body's having had a *response* to the virus, for example. by detecting antibodies.
[22:24:36] <chromas> Do any tests test for the actual presence of a virus?
[22:26:53] <Bytram> Somebody is infected. They transmit the virus to you (e.g. sneezing on you, or whatever) at 8AM. You go to the clinic. Get tested at noon. "Yay! I tested negative! That means I am not infected! Woo Hoo!" They go on their merry way and spread the disease left and right under the mistaken assumption that they are not infected.
[22:27:05] <Bytram> chromas: no idea, hence my equivocation.
[22:27:51] <chromas> But on the other hand, ifyou test positive, off to the gulag, comrade
[22:28:10] <chromas> or get welded into your house
[22:30:12] <Bytram> that would be interesting to see as I do not have a house! (/me lives in an apartment) Wait! Does that mean that if I come down with the virus, I get a house? Sign. Me. Up! ;)
[22:31:43] <chromas> They're all the same on the inside
[22:32:08] <Bytram> while the bed is baking in the bread machine, I think I'll try making a chicken-noodle casserole. https://www.allrecipes.com
[22:32:10] <systemd> ^ 03Chicken Noodle Casserole I
[22:32:11] <exec> └─ 13Chicken Noodle Casserole I Recipe - Allrecipes.com | Allrecipes
[22:33:54] <Bytram> Heh! Here's the fortune on the bottom of a page on our site I just saw:
[22:33:55] <Bytram> It's no longer a question of staying healthy. It's a question of finding a sickness you like. -- Jackie Mason
[22:34:11] <Bytram> and with that... I'm off to prepare my dinner
[22:34:13] <Bytram> afk
[23:37:56] <Bytram> whereto? https://go.theregister.co.uk
[23:37:57] <systemd> ^ 03White House turns to Big Tech to fix coronavirus screw-up while classifying previous conversations ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:37:58] <exec> └─ 13White House turns to Big Tech to fix coronavirus screw-up while classifying previous conversations • The Register
[23:44:30] <Bytram> how about another take on it?
[23:44:34] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[23:44:35] <systemd> ^ 03White House asks tech companies for help battling coronavirus ( https://www.cnet.com )
[23:48:21] <Bytram> no mention in the latter story about the White House asserting the discussions were top secret and thereby reducing the ability of the participants who are trying to deal with the crisis to talk with those who have deep knowledge (e.g. doctors and researchers) who happen to lack such a clearance rating.
[23:48:26] <Bytram> =g SNAFU
[23:48:27] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - SNAFU - Wikipedia