#editorial | Logs for 2019-08-15

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[02:57:59] <Bytram> How does it get so late so soon?
[02:58:36] * Bytram fears he will have another not-long-enough night tonight... but at least have day off so can [try to] sleep in.
[02:58:51] <Bytram> have a great night everyone!
[04:19:03] <chromas> Ah, I see
[04:19:31] <chromas> The Page Not Found sub (35637) was two =submit commands in one message
[04:19:53] <chromas> Good. That means I don't have to fix my code :D
[13:58:22] <janrinok> here!
[13:58:35] * Bytram has a tab somewhere with the stories that were in the story queue prior to site crash
[13:58:41] * Bytram goes to look for it.
[13:58:55] <janrinok> Its just that I was preparing stories while the site was down.
[13:59:02] <Bytram> ouch
[14:00:47] <Bytram> lemme try something
[14:00:48] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[14:00:49] <upstart> ^ 03Error
[14:00:50] <exec> └─ 13Error
[14:00:51] <Bytram> k
[14:01:22] <Bytram> next story that I saw scheduled after digits of pi was: https://soylentnews.org
[14:01:22] <upstart> ^ 03SpaceX Will Buy Taller Fairings to Compete for U.S. Air Force Launch Contracts: SoylentNews Submission
[14:01:24] <exec> └─ 13SpaceX Will Buy Taller Fairings to Compete for U.S. Air Force Launch Contracts: SoylentNews Submission
[14:07:20] <Bytram> okay got that one restored
[14:13:25] <Bytram> Okay found a tab with a bunch of stories... will paste source to IRC for reference but do not want to bomb this channel; will post it to #qa
[14:13:33] <janrinok> bytram - which story would you like me to push out next?
[14:13:47] <janrinok> looking at #qa
[14:16:43] <Bytram> janrinok: Would appreciate your input on that. Part of me wants to restore all the previously-posted stories so the community can restart their conversations. Another part just wants to chalk it up to water under the bridge and start fresh. Thoughts?
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[14:18:16] <janrinok> If we can repost them they get the karma at least. Whether we get the same response as the first time is less important
[14:18:33] <Bytram> good point on Karma
[14:18:35] <janrinok> I assume that the karma data has been lost as well
[14:18:53] <Bytram> that is a reasonable assumption.
[14:19:36] <janrinok> I'm going to have to go and cook soon, but I will ensure that we have enough stories to see us through the next few hours and I will come back on later to add more
[14:19:42] <Bytram> I just loaded the HoF stats and it did update since the prior day's totals for author's stories posted, but I expect it lacks the ones posted after the restore point.
[14:19:59] <Bytram> Oh, doh! Loggie...
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[14:25:25] <janrinok> No problem - let 'em have karma * 2
[14:28:19] <Bytram> https://logs.sylnt.us
[14:28:20] <upstart> ^ 03#rss-bot | Logs for 2019-08-14
[14:28:21] <exec> └─ 13#rss-bot | Logs for 2019-08-14
[14:28:22] <Bytram> https://logs.sylnt.us
[14:28:23] <upstart> ^ 03#rss-bot | Logs for 2019-08-15
[14:28:24] <exec> └─ 13#rss-bot | Logs for 2019-08-15
[14:28:49] <Bytram> that should have a record of all the stories we posted and the timestamps. Search for "[SoylentNews]"
[14:34:40] <Bytram> janrinok: thanks so much!
[14:34:44] <Bytram> biab afk
[14:45:14] <Bytram> back
[14:47:16] <Bytram> hmmm, I wonder
[14:47:17] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:47:20] <upstart> ^ 03This Brain Region May be Why Some Robots Send Chills Down Your Spine - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:47:20] <exec> └─ 13This Brain Region May be Why Some Robots Send Chills Down Your Spine - SoylentNews
[14:47:48] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:47:51] <upstart> ^ 03We Tagged a Bluntnose Sixgill Shark (Finally!) - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:47:51] <exec> └─ 13We Tagged a Bluntnose Sixgill Shark (Finally!) - SoylentNews
[14:47:58] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:48:02] <upstart> ^ 03Google's Creepy Gmail Purchase History Can't be Deleted - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:48:03] <exec> └─ 13Google's Creepy Gmail Purchase History Can't be Deleted - SoylentNews
[14:48:19] <Bytram> okaaaay
[14:48:49] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:48:51] <upstart> ^ 03SpaceX Will Need Taller Fairings to Compete for U.S. Air Force Launch Contracts - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:48:51] <exec> └─ 13SpaceX Will Need Taller Fairings to Compete for U.S. Air Force Launch Contracts - SoylentNews
[14:48:56] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:48:58] <exec> └─ 13WE'RE BACK - but It Has Been a Long, Hard Road - SoylentNews
[14:48:58] <upstart> ^ 03WE'RE BACK - but It Has Been a Long, Hard Road - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:49:01] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:49:02] <upstart> ^ 03Error ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:49:03] <exec> └─ 13Error
[14:49:08] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:49:10] <upstart> ^ 03Error ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:49:10] <exec> └─ 13Error
[14:49:12] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:49:13] <upstart> ^ 03Error ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:49:14] <exec> └─ 13Error
[14:49:15] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:49:17] <upstart> ^ 03Error ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:49:18] <exec> └─ 13Error
[14:49:19] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:49:21] <upstart> ^ 03Error ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:49:22] <exec> └─ 13Error
[14:49:24] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[14:49:26] <upstart> ^ 03How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:49:27] <exec> └─ 13How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? - SoylentNews
[15:39:22] <Bytram> reposted a couple of the stories that got dropped, but have to head out for a couple hours. they were originally posted by Fnord666 so I changed the author on my reposts to his nick, too.
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[15:40:23] <Bytram> Question: What kind of story spacing should we use on the reposted stories? The usual? Or, since they'd already been posted to the site, something shorter like 1 hour? 45 Minutes? 30 Minutes?
[15:40:49] <Fnord666_> howdy Bytram
[15:40:56] <Bytram> ~eds ^^^ I need to head out and will check back on the responses (if any!) in a couple hours or so
[15:40:57] <exec> editor ping for Bytram (reason: ^^^ i need to head out and will check back on the responses (if any!) in a couple hours or so): janrinok n1 nick Bytram cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away Fnord666 FatPhil mrpg chromas fyngyrz
[15:40:57] <Fnord666_> looks like some fun occurred
[15:41:03] <Bytram> Fnord666_: !!
[15:41:18] <Bytram> you have an ... interesting ... concept of fun
[15:41:29] <Fnord666_> may you live in interesting times?
[15:41:31] <Bytram> off and on I've been at it for 7 hours
[15:41:47] <Bytram> zactly
[15:41:53] <Fnord666_> I just saw the meta story
[15:42:06] <Bytram> I've restore 2 or 3 of the stories you'd posted and that got dropped... still have 4-5 more to do.
[15:42:08] <Fnord666_> what can I do to help?
[15:44:19] <Bytram> prepare for a blast
[15:44:20] <Bytram> [1] New Evidence Highlights Growing Urban Water Crisis Fnord666 scien mainp n/a 0 08/15 12:21 2019.08.15
[15:44:20] <Bytram> [2] New Cerberus Android Banker Uses Pedometer to Avoid Analysis Fnord666 secur mainp n/a 0 08/15 10:49 2019.08.15
[15:44:20] <Bytram> [3] Europe Has The Untapped Onshore Capacity To Meet Global Energy Demand Fnord666 techo mainp n/a 0 08/15 09:17 2019.08.15
[15:44:21] <Bytram> [4] Attackers Try to Evade Defenses With Smaller DDoS Floods, Probes Fnord666 secur mainp n/a 0 08/15 07:45 2019.08.15
[15:44:24] <Bytram> [5] HTTP2, Brute! Then Fall, Server. Admin! Ops! The Server Is Dead Fnord666 secur mainp n/a 0 08/15 06:13 2019.08.15
[15:44:27] <Bytram> done
[15:44:38] <Bytram> those are the stories that got dropped and are still waiting to go back out
[15:44:55] <Bytram> lemme see if I can find the original sub links
[15:44:55] <Fnord666_> lol that list looks familiar
[15:45:41] <Bytram> first one's subid is 35627 so...
[15:46:19] <Fnord666_> found #5 in the sub queue. pushing it out
[15:46:19] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[15:46:21] <upstart> ^ 03New Evidence Highlights Growing Urban Water Crisis: SoylentNews Submission
[15:46:22] <exec> └─ 13New Evidence Highlights Growing Urban Water Crisis: SoylentNews Submission
[15:46:58] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[15:46:59] <upstart> ^ 03New Cerberus Android Banker Uses Pedometer to Avoid Analysis: SoylentNews Submission
[15:47:00] <exec> └─ 13New Cerberus Android Banker Uses Pedometer to Avoid Analysis: SoylentNews Submission
[15:47:02] <Fnord666_> I say normal spacing personally
[15:47:15] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[15:47:16] <upstart> ^ 03Europe Has The Untapped Onshore Capacity To Meet Global Energy Demand: SoylentNews Submission
[15:47:17] <exec> └─ 13Europe Has The Untapped Onshore Capacity To Meet Global Energy Demand: SoylentNews Submission
[15:47:32] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[15:47:33] <upstart> ^ 03HTTP2, Brute! Then Fall, Server. Admin! Ops! The Server Is Dead: SoylentNews Submission
[15:47:34] <exec> └─ 13HTTP2, Brute! Then Fall, Server. Admin! Ops! The Server Is Dead: SoylentNews Submission
[15:47:56] <Bytram> unless I missed something, that should cover them.
[15:48:26] <Carny> what's the latest theory on the cause?
[15:48:41] <Bytram> As I mentioned above, I do not see the need to use the usual story spacing, so feel free to run 'em closer together. anywhere from 30 minutes on up I would think should be fine.
[15:48:46] <Bytram> no idea,, yet
[15:49:17] <Carny> any hardware events or ioc's?
[15:49:19] <Bytram> Fnord666: I've added "[Repost]" to the end of the titles to make clear
[15:49:27] <Bytram> none known
[15:49:43] <Carny> i can give you two ideas
[15:49:55] <Carny> wait
[15:50:02] <Carny> when did the problem start?
[15:50:09] <Bytram> was enough of a sturggle to get things running again, at such an ewarly hour, we're all pretty well spent. waiting for site to make sure stays up. and then, when more rested, will investigate.
[15:50:21] <Carny> 520 utc
[15:50:35] <Bytram> Carny: I'm really sorry but I'mk trying to meet with some folks in 25 mnutes
[15:51:06] <Bytram> Fnord666: also, look at the top of the reposted stories I did for some boilerplate you can steal to preface the stories you repost.
[15:51:36] <Carny> no worries
[15:51:48] <Carny> do your thing and i'll check my logs
[15:52:21] <Bytram> Carny: take a look at logs for #Soylent, #editorial for some more info about what was going on: http://logs.sylnt.us
[15:52:29] <Bytram> =)
[15:52:39] <Bytram> great minds think alike
[15:52:44] <Bytram> really gtg, sorry!
[15:52:57] <Carny> peace
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[16:02:43] <Fnord666_> ok I think I have them all reposted
[16:02:52] <Fnord666_> back to work for me
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[16:05:33] <Carny> ok the peak was probably later than 520 utc but there were solar activities before then
[16:06:05] <Carny> it's been going on for awhile
[16:06:09] <Carny> Begin Time: 2019 Aug 06 1015 UTC
[16:06:26] <Carny> CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
[16:06:27] <Carny> Continuation of Serial Number: 2969
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[16:36:08] <Sulla> Wondering about the upcoming Google whistleblower article. Is project veritas the only source on it? I didn't sub it myself as I assumed the article would just be a shitfest that veritas has no/unknown credibility
[16:37:18] <Carny> project veritas has no/unknown credibility?
[16:39:40] <Sulla> As a right-wing person myself, I read them on occasion and like what they produce. But because they are right-wing their credibility will be the primary discussion unless there is another source
[16:40:52] <Sulla> That said, true or false the mainstream media (fox,CNN,etc) would not touch this story, so you are kind of stuck
[16:42:11] <Carny> i don't know how documents and hidden video cameras are right-wing
[16:50:32] <Sulla> Right. They aren't. O'Keefe's (a conservative) work is pretty straight forward. But if the goal is to talk about probable wrongdoing by Google other sources would be better. PV as the primary will have the discussion undermined because places like snopes says that PV is misleading and made up
[16:55:56] <Carny> then maybe we need to start tearing down companies that won't participate in the discussion
[16:56:34] <Carny> afaik veritas is a completely truthful journalist org
[16:57:29] <Carny> i didn't like some of their stuff in the past but i would rather have 10 of them and burn down all the other propaganda companies
[16:58:31] <Carny> i think history will judge half of them as being directly involved in sedition and working towards starting the next us civil war
[17:07:24] <Sulla> Agree
[17:08:49] <Sulla> Just trying to avoid the inevitable complaint from aristarchus
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[19:02:16] <Bytram> Sulla: Carny: If you have found any other source for the story, I'd be happy to merge it in.
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[20:27:45] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[20:27:46] <upstart> ^ 03Ohio state's top legal eagle just made it harder for the FBI, ICE, cops to snoop around its DMV DB for people's faces ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[20:27:47] <exec> └─ 13Ohio state's top legal eagle just made it harder for the FBI, ICE, cops to snoop around its DMV DB for people's faces • The Register
[20:51:20] <Bytram> nap time
[20:51:44] <Bytram> =submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[20:51:45] <upstart> Submitting "Ohio state's top legal eagle just made it harder for the FBI, ICE, cops to snoop around its DMV DB for people's faces"...
[20:51:45] <exec> └─ 13Ohio state's top legal eagle just made it harder for the FBI, ICE, cops to snoop around its DMV DB for people's faces • The Register
[20:52:07] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Ohio State's Top Legal Eagle Just Made It Harder for the FBI, ICE, Cops to Snoop Around its DMV DB f" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:52:07] <Bytram> =submit https://www.nature.com
[20:52:10] <upstart> Submitting "Chemists make first-ever ring of pure carbon"...( 1 modified urls; http://www.nature.com )
[20:52:11] <exec> └─ 13303 See Other
[20:52:32] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Chemists Make First-ever Ring of Pure Carbon" (0 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:52:57] <Bytram> ??? Zero paragraphs is... success?
[20:53:56] <Bytram> whatever... can't stay awake any longer
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