#editorial | Logs for 2019-06-25

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[00:00:33] <chromas> I left it, but I did swap out those hyphens for some em dashes
[00:00:43] <chromas> Feel free to change the dept if it's inappropriate
[00:00:49] <chromas> https://soylentnews.org
[00:00:50] <upstart> ^ 03Error
[00:00:51] <exec> └─ 13Error
[00:26:40] <chromas> I wonder if there's a permission level upstart could have that gives read-only privs to queued stories
[00:34:42] <Bytram> chromas: last things first... nope.
[00:34:58] <chromas> poor bot
[00:35:10] <Bytram> at a minimum would require editor privs and that's not gonna happen.
[00:35:10] <chromas> doomed to Error for eternity
[00:36:33] <Bytram> well, I suppose I could give it seclev == 100 and NOT make it an editor, but that is an... unconventional setup (in other words: not tried, and I'd rather not have a bot finding all the corner cases, while doing things programmatically)
[00:36:50] <Bytram> next thing... not following you yet... brb
[00:38:21] <Bytram> looks like you pulled the reference to Ars?
[00:38:35] <Bytram> oops... just saw a typo... brb
[00:39:00] <chromas> I was thinking of changing the wording, too, since it refers to the article just above it
[00:39:22] <chromas> When you wrote it, that excerpt and link weren't above it, but now they are
[00:40:25] <Bytram> I see no mention of Ars Technica in the story
[00:40:55] * Bytram clicks update to save the correction to the typo he found.
[00:41:06] <Bytram> oh, wait.
[00:41:19] <Bytram> you are talking about a different story.
[00:41:34] <Bytram> clicky
[00:42:08] <Bytram> now I am following you... hold on.
[00:42:16] <chromas> Well, now I'm confused. What other article did I pull a link from? :)
[00:46:18] <Bytram> I was talking about the SpaceX launch story... but I got them confused. It was an intensely hectic morning with the site's issues actually being upstream connectively which
[00:47:11] <chromas> ah
[00:47:15] <Bytram> resulted in me leaving at 5 minutes to the hour to start a 15 minute commute and resulted in me being 10 minutes late for work, and they didn't
[00:47:44] <Bytram> *brain fart*
[00:48:30] <Bytram> so with 10 minutes' less time, I still had the usual stuff I needed to do before start of business for the day, so I was full-speed-ahead for the first few hours of my day.
[00:50:04] <Bytram> chromas: Anyway, I've moved a couple things around. Please let me know what you think.
[00:50:14] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[00:50:15] <upstart> ^ 03Error
[00:50:17] <exec> └─ 13Error
[00:51:12] <chromas> Sorta looks the same, with the duplicated link moved up a bit
[00:51:28] <chromas> Looks fine though
[00:51:41] <Bytram> On further thought, I am inclined to think there is a reason why ability to read stories (or even their titles) is restricted until after the stories go live.
[00:52:12] <Bytram> yeah, I considered leaving out the restating of the link, but was easiest just to leave it in context.
[00:52:12] <chromas> Specifically so bots can't title the links in irc
[00:53:12] <Bytram> there was a problem on /. way way back, IIRC, there folks had pre-written comments. Then, when a story went live, they'd dive in, post their comment, and get a bunch of upvotes.
[00:53:27] <Bytram> karma++
[00:53:27] <Bender> karma - karma: 2
[00:54:07] <chromas> Wouldn't want people thinking ahead of time :D
[00:55:08] <Bytram> provide no more incentive/opportunity for "manipulation" than is absolutely needed
[00:55:33] <Bytram> not the right word, but I'm running on vapors right about now.
[00:55:58] <Bytram> chromas: will you be staying up for the spacex launch?
[00:56:18] <chromas> I might be up then, but not purposely for it. what time?
[00:56:26] <chromas> I guess I could look at the article I posted
[00:56:38] <Bytram> 2019-06-24 11:30pm EDT (2019-06-25 0330 UTC)
[00:56:56] <chromas> oh that's just a couple hours from now
[00:57:19] <chromas> or three
[00:57:21] <Bytram> reason I ask is that there was an issue with SpaceX somehow running the launch on a different link than what was "advertised" earlier...
[00:57:24] <chromas> I don't remember if we're in dst or not
[00:57:43] <Bytram> I was scrambling until just before launch that time.
[00:57:56] <chromas> Yeah, I'll still be up. It's only 1757 here
[00:57:58] <Bytram> it is DST, now
[00:58:16] <chromas> dst--
[00:58:16] <Bender> karma - dst: -1
[00:58:33] <Bytram> so, in 10 years you'll be sitting in on the Constitutional Congress!
[00:58:56] <Bytram> is 20:57 here.
[00:59:18] <Bytram> so, you are on the "other" coast.
[00:59:35] <chromas> The one with all the hipsters and social justice
[01:00:01] * chromas counts his privilege points; comes up negative
[01:00:02] <Bytram> chromas: s/sti/i/
[01:00:15] <Bytram> rats. not quick enought.
[01:00:31] <Bytram> I see you are looking at the solar minimum stories
[01:00:31] <upstart> ~sed on
[01:01:05] <chromas> Yeah, I don't like most of the stories though
[01:01:19] <chromas> I haven't actually done anything with it
[01:02:01] <Bytram> I'd suggest giving a pass on the one that mentions the Mauder Minimum and all the catastrophes that were claimed to result from it... no supporting evidence to the assertion, and we all know that post hoc ergo propter hoc is a fallacy.
[01:02:07] <chromas> The ari sub's alright. He almost accidentally the political commentary
[01:02:27] <Bytram> coincidence is not causality (or somethin' like it)
[01:02:28] <chromas> Just because it's a fallacy doesn't make it wrong
[01:02:32] <chromas> What fallacy is that? :D
[01:02:56] <Bytram> is not fair to perform mental jousting with a sleeping person
[01:03:31] <Bytram> the other one of those two AC solar minimum subs was much better, in my estimation.
[01:04:52] * Bytram glances at https://soylentnews.org and notices that chromas is approaching his 900th story...
[01:04:55] <Bytram> !woop
[01:04:55] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[01:05:02] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[01:06:04] <chromas> Wasn't sure about the YouTube video though
[01:06:10] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[01:06:11] <upstart> ^ 03Irina Kitiashvili with the NASA Solar Cycle 25 Forecast
[01:06:12] <exec> └─ 13Irina Kitiashvili with the NASA Solar Cycle 25 Forecast - YouTube
[01:06:26] <chromas> linked from the good solar sub
[01:08:42] <Bytram> If you have any doubts, can always leave it out.
[01:10:13] <Bytram> =submit
[01:10:13] <upstart> Submit a link
[01:10:55] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:10:56] <upstart> Submitting "Calibration method improves scientific research performed with smartphone cameras"...
[01:10:57] <exec> └─ 13Calibration method improves scientific research performed with smartphone cameras -- ScienceDaily
[01:11:08] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:11:10] <upstart> Submitting "Settling the debate on serotonin's role in sleep: The brain chemical is necessary to get enough sleep"...
[01:11:10] <exec> └─ 13Settling the debate on serotonin's role in sleep: The brain chemical is necessary to get enough sleep -- ScienceDaily
[01:11:18] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Calibration Method Improves Scientific Research Performed With Smartphone Cameras" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:11:31] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Settling the Debate on Serotonin's Role in Sleep: The Brain Chemical is Necessary to Get Enough Sleep" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:12:28] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[01:12:29] <upstart> ^ 03It's official. You can get FUCT, US Supremes tell scandalized bureaucrats in rude trademark spat ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[01:12:31] <exec> └─ 13It's official. You can get FUCT, US Supremes tell scandalized bureaucrats in rude trademark spat • The Register
[01:12:39] <Bytram> =submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:12:40] <upstart> Submitting "It's official. You can get FUCT, US Supremes tell scandalized bureaucrats in rude trademark spat"...
[01:12:41] <exec> └─ 13It's official. You can get FUCT, US Supremes tell scandalized bureaucrats in rude trademark spat • The Register
[01:13:02] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "It's Official. You Can Get FUCT, US Supremes Tell Scandalized Bureaucrats in Rude Trademark Spat" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:15:35] <Bytram> that's all I got. Hitting the hay and hope to wake in a couple hours to watch the launch
[01:16:21] <Bytram> chromas++ thanks for working on pushing out stories.
[01:16:21] <Bender> karma - chromas: 71
[01:16:38] <Bytram> would like to stay and help but I can't even stay awake.
[01:16:42] <Bytram> laters!
[01:16:52] <chromas> =g'noight b
[01:16:52] * upstart salaciously queefs just the tip of rupees at b
[01:17:08] <Bytram> ~gnight chromas
[01:17:10] * exec cantankerously deletes an old shoe full of spiders from chromas
[01:17:20] <chromas> my spiders!
[01:17:49] <Bytram> =g the lord of the rings spider
[01:17:50] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Shelob - Wikipedia
[01:18:04] <Bytram> she somthing... shelob! yep, that's it!
[01:18:31] <Bytram> I hope to be back within a couple hours
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[10:23:42] <Bytram> whereto? http://rpf.io
[10:23:44] <upstart> ^ 03Buy a Raspberry Pi 4 Model B – Raspberry Pi ( https://www.raspberrypi.org )
[10:53:22] <Bytram> just dropping this here for future reference: https://www.swpc.noaa.gov
[10:53:23] <upstart> ^ 03Space Weather Enthusiasts Dashboard
[10:53:24] <exec> └─ 13Space Weather Enthusiasts Dashboard | NOAA / NWS Space Weather Prediction Center
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[21:29:22] <Bytram_> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[21:30:48] <Bytram_> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[21:30:49] <upstart> Submitting "New therapy targets gut bacteria to prevent and reverse food allergies"...
[21:30:50] <exec> └─ 13New therapy targets gut bacteria to prevent and reverse food allergies -- ScienceDaily
[21:31:11] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "New Therapy Targets Gut Bacteria to Prevent and Reverse Food Allergies" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:43:57] <Bytram_> =submit https://phys.org
[21:43:59] <upstart> Submitting "US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries"...
[21:43:59] <exec> └─ 13US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries
[21:44:20] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "US Military is a Bigger Polluter Than as Many as 140 Countries" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:59:11] <Bytram_> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[21:59:12] <upstart> Submitting "Ex-chair of FCC broadband committee gets five years in prison for fraud"...
[21:59:13] <exec> └─ 13Ex-chair of FCC broadband committee gets five years in prison for fraud | Ars Technica
[21:59:34] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Ex-chair of FCC Broadband Committee Gets Five Years in Prison for Fraud" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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