#editorial | Logs for 2019-06-05

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[00:07:48] <Bytram> =submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:07:49] <upstart> Submitting "HP boss: Intel shortages are steering our suited customers to buy AMD"...
[00:08:11] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "HP Boss: Intel Shortages are Steering Our Suited Customers to Buy AMD" -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:28:17] <Bytram> .
[00:28:17] <Bytram> https://www.nytimes.com
[00:28:19] <upstart> ^ 03Decade in the Red: Trump Tax Figures Show Over $1 Billion in Business Losses
[00:28:21] <Bytram> .
[01:12:24] <Bytram> Okay, that's another one in the hopper. And I've just done gone and run out of steam.
[01:12:57] <Bytram> hopefully, someone else can take it from there.
[01:13:11] <Bytram> And, with that, have a great night everybody!
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[11:56:17] <Bytram> not sure what happened to "Retired Georgia Tech Professor Suing Uber & Lyft for Patent Infringement"... fixing it now.
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[12:06:23] <Bytram> done; https://soylentnews.org should be okay, now.
[12:06:25] <upstart> ^ 03Retired Georgia Tech Professor Suing Uber & Lyft for Patent Infringement - SoylentNews
[12:35:15] <Bytram> afk / biaw
[14:09:19] <Bytram> =g clamshell packaging
[14:09:20] <upstart> https://www.amazon.com - Clamshell Packaging: Amazon.com
[14:09:49] <Bytram> =g clamshell packaging wikipedia
[14:09:50] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org(container) - Clamshell (container) - Wikipedia
[14:11:50] <Bytram> #g "the graduate" film
[14:11:50] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The Graduate is a 1967 American romantic comedy-drama film directed by Mike Nichols and written by Buck Henry and Calder Willingham, based on the 1963 ..."
[14:23:23] <Bytram> =submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[14:23:24] <upstart> Submitting "Bad news from science land: Fast-charging li-ion batteries may be quick to top up, but they're also quick to die"...
[14:23:46] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Bad News From Science Land: Fast-charging Li-ion Batteries May be Quick to Top Up, but They're Also Quick to Die" -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:36:21] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[14:36:22] <upstart> ^ 03NSA Urges Windows Users to Patch 'BlueKeep' Vulnerability ( https://www.securityweek.com )
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[19:41:41] <chromas> oh it's nice of the subs page to refresh while typing into the note field
[19:42:27] <chromas> anyway whatever. The Credder site is supposed to be the Rotten Tomatoes of article reviews, so it doesn't have its own articles
[19:42:44] <chromas> Critics and Users can post reviews of articles from other sites on it
[19:43:58] <chromas> The one about crime isn't an article, but a rating on an article from The American Mirror, which was reposted to ZeroHedge
[19:44:43] <chromas> I say we reblog this summary of a rating of a repost of an article from an unknown site. It'll be just like Tumblr
[19:57:14] <Bytram> Seems like this would be gamed by any party that is interested or potentially affected.
[19:57:58] <Bytram> up-vote my stuff; down-vote their stuff. Enlist a bot net. Hilarity ensues?
[20:02:56] <chromas> I dunno. Most the sites I see talking about it are unheard of, but there is a ZDNet article: https://www.zdnet.com
[20:03:00] <upstart> ^ 03Credder: Fighting the scourge of online fake news
[20:04:26] <chromas> That other story in the queue ( https://soylentnews.org ) isn't an actual article, but a rating of one. It got a 4% trust rating
[20:04:27] <upstart> ^ 03Credder: SoylentNews Submission
[20:04:49] <Bytram> saw that, but forgot to note it anywhere. :P
[20:05:04] <chromas> I was noting it but the page refreshed while I was on another tab
[20:05:14] * chromas disabled the refresh
[20:12:12] <Bytram> chromas: You may want to take a look at the collected links at the bottom of this sub: https://soylentnews.org
[20:12:13] <upstart> ^ 03New Attack Creates Ghost Taps on Modern Android Smartphones: SoylentNews Submission
[20:14:21] <chromas> that's a lot o' links
[20:14:34] <chromas> it's like a takyon sub except the links are unrelated
[20:15:52] <Bytram> lol!
[20:16:09] <Bytram> same set of links, repeated a few times
[20:16:22] <chromas> it's from the page
[20:16:35] <chromas> looks like that block of text doesn't have any special classes or ids that could be used to filter them
[20:16:48] <Bytram> urrrg
[20:17:13] <chromas> I could strip <ul>s but those are in articles sometimes. Same with <h*> tags
[20:17:38] <chromas> I guess I could get fancy and look for groups of many links
[20:18:46] <Bytram> I only see one block in the source?!?
[20:19:08] <chromas> oh I don't know why it's repeated
[20:19:08] <Bytram> 8 links in the block
[20:19:19] * chromas blames TheMightyBuzzard
[20:19:22] <Bytram> that's the thing I was trying to point out
[20:19:54] <Bytram> as for why if happens? know eyed ear
[20:20:03] <chromas> I've never seen such a thing before
[20:20:09] <chromas> Thanks for the bug report
[20:20:19] <Bytram> me neither!
[20:20:23] <Bytram> np
[20:20:26] <Bytram> =blame
[20:20:26] * upstart points at Bytram
[20:24:06] <chromas> looks like it always does it
[20:24:14] <chromas> Maybe I need to make some test pages
[20:27:15] <chromas> what the wtf. they have base64 images embedded into the source. That's even worse than Gizmodo's inline SVGs
[20:27:28] <chromas> they actually have both
[20:27:30] <chromas> Jesus wept.
[20:28:43] <chromas> Oh wait. It's base64-encoded images inside of inline SVGs
[20:28:56] <chromas> Jesus died for their sins
[20:29:05] <Bytram> yo dawg!
[20:34:07] <chromas> Xzibit (SV)G
[20:35:35] <chromas> hm, the bot always outputs the list repeatedly, but the source isn't bunched up like in the sub; it's got newlines after each <li>
[20:35:47] <chromas> not sure if rehash does that or the bot has old coe
[20:35:53] * chromas dropped this d
[20:36:17] * Bytram picks it up, sniffs it, and d-iscards it
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[20:40:34] <chromas> =submit test http://10.11.0.2
[20:40:37] <upstart> Submitting "New attack creates ghost taps on modern Android smartphones"...
[20:40:52] <chromas> Maybe I need a =dev-sumbit
[20:40:59] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "New Attack Creates Ghost Taps on Modern Android Smartphones" -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:41:40] <chromas> Looks like rehash is stripping out some newlines. Weird.
[20:42:33] * Bytram goes to look
[20:45:01] <Bytram> yeah, rehash "helpfully" reformats incoming text before putting it in the editing window, IIRC. e.g. putting a \n before a <p> as well as trying to balance tags when you hit refresh
[20:45:17] <Bytram> not sure what it does on initial intake.
[20:45:59] <chromas> I've got no idea how the bot's duping that block
[20:46:24] <chromas> Working as intended. Feature; not bug. WONTFIX NOTMYFAULT
[20:46:50] <Bytram> WTFBBQELEVENTY!11!1
[20:50:02] <Bytram> chromas: does it only happen on ZDnet?
[20:50:48] <Bytram> if ($domain in ($baddies_list)) do special_stuff();
[20:52:22] <Bytram> Don't worry about it. I expect it will come to you -- just out of the blue -- later.
[20:52:24] <chromas> I've only seen it there. It does happen on other articles on their site
[20:52:33] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:53:02] <Bytram> Don't try to solve your problem / strive to understand it / a fully stated problem / embodies its solution.
[20:53:33] <Bytram> read that back in the 80's from some guy at SofTech -- as true today as it was back then
[21:03:04] <chromas> probably the crappy parser
[21:03:59] <Bytram> believe it or not, I remember seeing a copy of HTML tidy in the code at one time... doubt it was still used, but it looks like it was something they played with at one time.
[21:04:05] <Bytram> =g HTML Tidy
[21:04:06] <upstart> https://infohound.net - HTML Tidy Online
[21:04:15] <Bytram> =g HTML Tidy download
[21:04:16] <upstart> https://www.html-tidy.org - HTML Tidy
[21:04:23] <Bytram> thats the one
[21:05:29] <chromas> oh I meant my parser. It's homemade and not very good at all
[21:05:44] <chromas> may not even qualify as one
[21:05:46] <Bytram> oh. k
[21:06:28] <Bytram> yeah, I know what you mean. I special-case scraping sites all the time; sometimes more ... robustly ... than others.
[21:06:44] <Bytram> break time
[21:06:47] <Bytram> afk
[21:14:28] <chromas> heh, I just noticed when I subbed the local copy of that article (with a 10.11.0.2 address) it magically puts in zdnet as the proper source
[21:44:07] <Bytram> allergies--
[21:44:08] <Bender> karma - allergies: -5
[21:45:16] <Bytram> I'm glad I have this week off, although there are other things I would rather do on a vacation, at least I can sleep as much as I need to.
[21:45:31] * Bytram saunters back off to bed.
[21:45:56] <Bytram> httttm
[21:46:03] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[21:46:05] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[21:46:14] <Bytram> good; it's just my local system, then.
[21:48:32] <Bytram> PM tends to be unable to resolve net addresses for a minute or three every once in a while; I have no idea why. :/
[21:52:06] * Bytram heads back to bed
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[23:43:16] <Deucalion> Mange tout janrinok.... some scroll back