#editorial | Logs for 2019-03-31
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[01:19:01] <chromas> subs.selectall().delete();
[01:22:40] <Bytram> chromas: Say What?
[01:22:55] <chromas> almost all the subs suck
[01:23:28] <Bytram> Six of them are mine... what's "wrong" with 'em?
[01:23:57] <chromas> Yeah but the rest are old and/or alt-right masturbation
[01:24:45] <chromas> Yours are fine, although the 71-year-old headline triggers me timbers
[01:25:05] <Bytram> what? To go 71 years w/o feeling pain?
[01:25:39] <Bytram> Makes it even more impressive to me compared to, say, a 5-year-old who had never felt pain.
[01:26:12] <chromas> Nah, it's the "She blah blah" headline. Not a big deal I s'pose, it just makes me think of clickbait headlines
[01:26:49] * chromas adds that she has one weird trick that doctors hate
[01:27:18] <Bytram> we generally give a week for subs before they "age out" -- will weed out a few of 'em now.
[01:28:47] <chromas> I tried to do the aging communication breakdown one but I couldn't figure out how to trim it down a lot
[01:28:57] * chromas probably needs a nap
[01:30:26] * chromas tries to think up a dept for Tech Layoffs that isn't snarky
[01:33:21] <Bytram> finally found the text I was looking for. Hmmm.
[01:33:26] <Bytram> =declined
[01:33:32] <Bytram> SoylentNewsZNC_#editorial.log:2018-10-08_08:35:18 <Bytram> "Thanks for submitting this story. It appears that no editor has yet selected this story to be run. More than a week has passed since the story was submitted, and if an editor was going to have selected it, they would have done so by now. It has, therefore, been removed from the submission queue."
[01:33:39] <Bytram> "Thanks for submitting this story. It appears that no editor has yet selected this story to be run. More than a week has passed since the story was submitted, and if an editor was going to have selected it, they would have done so by now. It has, therefore, been removed from the submission queue."
[01:34:01] <Bytram> chromas: Any chance you could code up something like that?
[01:34:32] <chromas> Dunno if the API can do rejections, but also the bot doesn't have privileges for such
[01:35:00] <Bytram> nah.
[01:35:03] <chromas> I guess it doesn't need api if you supply the link
[01:35:07] <Bytram> I mean, if I type:
[01:35:08] <chromas> still needs privs
[01:35:10] <Bytram> =declined
[01:35:21] <chromas> oh, have it generate a string from a template
[01:35:33] <Bytram> it would display, on IRC, the message: "Thanks for submitting this story. It appears that no editor has yet selected this story to be run. More than a week has passed since the story was submitted, and if an editor was going to have selected it, they would have done so by now. It has, therefore, been removed from the submission queue."
[01:36:01] <chromas> Do you want parameters, or just a version for old subs?
[01:36:43] <Bytram> hmm
[01:36:47] * Bytram ponders
[01:37:25] <Bytram> I was thinking just a simple one for now. Instead of having to scan through gigs of IRC logs, it'd be nice to summon the message on requrst.
[01:37:31] <Bytram> s/rst/est/
[01:37:35] <exec> <Bytram> I was thinking just a simple one for now. Instead of having to scan through gigs of IRC logs, it'd be nice to summon the message on request.
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[01:38:58] <chromas> Go ahead. Try it on
[01:39:14] <Bytram> I decline the offer. ;)
[01:39:18] <Bytram> =decline
[01:39:21] <Bytram> =declined
[01:39:21] <upstart> Thanks for submitting this story. It appears that no editor has yet selected this story to be run. More than a week has passed since the story was submitted, and if an editor was going to have selected it, they would have done so by now. It has, therefore, been removed from the submission queue.
[01:39:22] <chromas> You're an expert—Is it faster to convert from lower case to capital or capital to lower case?
[01:39:40] <chromas> or does it matter, especially with unicode
[01:39:55] <Bytram> faster? You mean computationally?
[01:39:59] <chromas> yeah
[01:40:20] <chromas> the bot converts commands to caps for comparison but I was wondering if lower case is faster
[01:40:31] <chromas> 'cause, you know, it's an important bit of code that runs a lot :D
[01:40:38] <Bytram> AWK provides functions for folding to all uppercase and to all lowercase; is a pain to do capitalization.
[01:41:02] <Bytram> compute wise, I cannot conceive of a difference, BUT
[01:41:05] <Bytram> beware
[01:41:12] <chromas> in the olden days, it just just an AND or an OR, right?
[01:41:14] <Bytram> for example
[01:41:53] <Bytram> in Greek, there is ONE uppercase "s" and TWO lowercase, depending on where in a word it appears.
[01:43:08] <Bytram> =g unicode greek small letter s
[01:43:09] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Greek alphabet - Wikipedia
[01:44:22] <Bytram> Greek letters: Α α, Β β, Γ γ, Δ δ, Ε ε, Ζ ζ, Η η, Θ θ, Ι ι, Κ κ, Λ λ, Μ μ, Ν ν, Ξ ξ, Ο ο, Π π, Ρ ρ, Σ σ/ς, Τ τ, Υ υ, Φ φ, Χ χ, Ψ ψ, and Ω ω.
[01:45:36] <Bytram> ...Pi, Rho, Sigma, Tau... Sigma is the Greek letter "s"; notice the "/" char showing two different representations.
[01:46:24] <Bytram> So, that all said, I would not be surprised if some other language had it the other way around with a single lowercase and multiple uppercase variants -- don't know of any but it would not suprise me.
[01:46:27] <Bytram>
[01:47:13] <Bytram> To answer your question, I tend to use lowercase to represent things that could vary and uppercase for constants
[01:47:24] <Bytram> #DEFINE symbol
[01:56:17] <chromas> Do you sign your name on deletion messages? I guess the bot could put that in too
[01:56:31] <chromas> although your irc nick doesn't match I guess
[01:56:54] <Bytram> no, I didn't, and yes, it does not.
[01:58:46] <Bytram> Ideally, as part of the slashd job, it should go through and -- based on the value of a site var -- automatically decline those subs that are at least that many days old.
[02:00:31] <Bytram> And, it would be nice if the subs list highlighted in some fashion (italics?) those stories that were soon going to "age out" -- maybe another site var: how many days' notice to provide before auto declining a story submission.
[02:02:08] <Bytram> chromas: Okay, I've cleared out the stories that were over a year old and provided a decline message for those that were not from a bot and were not from an AC.
[02:02:56] <chromas> Thanks. Now it's easier to complain about the lack of subs :D
[02:03:02] <Bytram> And, now that there are fewer than 20 stories in the submissions queue, the "nag message" now appears on the main page.
[02:03:04] <Bytram> lol
[02:03:55] <Bytram> =submit You've heard about a Klein bottle? How about a Klein submission? https://soylentnews.org
[02:03:58] <upstart> Submitting "SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people"...
[02:03:59] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[02:04:20] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "SoylentNews: SoylentNews is People" -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:05:35] <chromas> I don't see that story on the front page
[02:06:03] <Bytram> It's in the extended copy of https://soylentnews.org
[02:06:05] <upstart> ^ 03Initial Findings Put Boeing's Software at Center of Ethiopian 737 Crash - SoylentNews
[02:06:06] <exec> └─ 13Initial Findings Put Boeing's Software at Center of Ethiopian 737 Crash - SoylentNews
[02:06:44] * Bytram wanders off to prepare something to eat
[02:06:46] <Bytram> biab
[02:06:56] <chromas> How'd it get that?
[02:07:03] <Bytram> chromas++ thanks for the help with the stories!!!
[02:07:03] <Bender> karma - chromas: 62
[02:07:29] <chromas> hm, that text is in the source even though it doesn't get rendered
[02:07:40] <chromas> Thanks for the subs and deletions
[02:08:07] <Bytram> I dunno *how* it got that. It is on the main page *IF* you click on "[Continues...]"
[02:08:27] <Bytram> toggles the text's visibility.
[02:08:59] <Bytram> (More precisely, changes it from "display: none" in the CSS to whatever the default is, IIRC)
[02:09:04] <Bytram> stomach growls
[02:09:08] <Bytram> biab
[02:09:17] <Bytram> hth! =)
[02:10:44] <chromas> If I click it just goes to the story page. Not sure if there's a way to expand the story in the page
[02:10:53] <chromas> I mean, there could be, but I don't think it's implemented
[02:11:33] <chromas> It could be done with <details> or the CSS trick used for <spoiler>
[02:13:35] <Bytram> click on "[Continues...]"
[02:13:46] <Bytram> =)
[02:17:34] <chromas> I guess I've never seen that before
[02:18:10] <Bytram> can't say *that* any more! ;) HTH!
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[02:18:37] <mrpg> -
[02:18:49] <Bytram> mrpg: !!
[02:23:18] <mrpg> Hello friend how are you?
[02:24:07] <Bytram> Well, thanks! And you?
[02:25:56] <mrpg> Hm... let's say ok, it's a shorter answer.
[02:27:54] <mrpg> Curious about the shark sub, who ripped off its head?
[02:28:02] <mrpg> I'll do Mt. Gox Bitcoin Exchanges' Karpeles Appeals Conviction
[02:28:05] <mrpg> Ready
[02:32:30] <Bytram> Heh. Just saw this fortune on the site (is one of my favorites): Economists can certainly disappoint you. One said that the economy would turn up by the last quarter. Well, I'm down to mine and it hasn't. -- Robert Orben
[02:33:25] <Bytram> okay then
[02:34:04] <mrpg> There's a few I like, can't remeber which.
[02:34:08] <mrpg> I?ll do Matter Waves and Quantum Splinters
[02:35:03] <Bytram> looks like the two of you have things under control atm. An observation, though. Very few subs appear first thing Monday so it's helpful to push out as many stories as possible to get past the noon (EDT) hump.
[02:35:46] <mrpg> Got it
[02:35:57] <mrpg> Matter wavews natter - - ready
[02:36:00] * Bytram notes today was the last day of his vacation and that he needs to be at work in < 12 hours.
[02:36:31] <Bytram> =gnight chromas
[02:36:32] * upstart diarrhetically cropdusts a misused Excel sheet of spicy memes over chromas
[02:36:40] <mrpg> Get ready, brush your teeth, go to sleep
[02:36:45] <Bytram> =gnight mrpg
[02:36:45] * upstart explicitly slides a gallon of boots to mrpg
[02:36:53] <mrpg> good
[02:37:05] <Bytram> must be small boots
[02:37:05] <mrpg> I'm watching https://en.wikipedia.org(1980_film)
[02:37:06] <upstart> ^ 03Virus (1980 film) - Wikipedia
[02:37:09] <exec> └─ 13Virus (1980 film) - Wikipedia
[02:37:09] <chromas> =g'night Bytram
[02:37:09] * upstart homogeneously reverse-engineers a splash of bobbleheads from Bytram
[02:37:28] <Bytram> sounds like a great suggestion. I think I *will* turn in early-ish.
[02:37:57] <Bytram> have a great night everyone!
[02:38:15] <mrpg> You too bye
[03:52:09] <mrpg> I'll do At 71, She’s Never Felt Pain or Anxiety. Now Scientists Know Why.
[03:52:11] <mrpg> Redy
[03:52:18] <mrpg> I'll do Facebook Calls for Government Regulation
[03:52:19] <mrpg> Ready
[03:52:33] <mrpg> Sure, deflect the guilt, say "they" need to do something.
[03:52:43] <mrpg> That's all folks, bye.
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[11:28:52] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencenews.org
[11:28:54] <upstart> Submitting "A single-dose antidote may help prevent fentanyl overdoses"...
[11:28:54] <exec> └─ 13A single-dose antidote may help prevent fentanyl overdoses | Science News
[11:29:16] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "A Single-dose Antidote May Help Prevent Fentanyl Overdoses" -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:43:17] <Bytram> =g wikipedia birth canal woman
[22:43:19] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Childbirth - Wikipedia
[23:30:40] <Bytram> wherto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[23:30:41] <upstart> ^ 03See a kangaroo rat ninja-kick a rattlesnake in dramatic slo-mo video ( https://www.cnet.com )
[23:30:43] <exec> └─ 13See a kangaroo rat ninja-kick a rattlesnake in dramatic slo-mo video - CNET
[23:35:15] * Bytram yawns
[23:35:15] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into Bytram's gaping mouth