#editorial | Logs for 2019-02-03
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[03:54:30] <Bytram> =submiy https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[03:54:32] <exec> └─ 13Mozilla Halts Firefox 65 Rollout Due to Insecure Certificate Errors
[03:59:39] <Bytram> ~arthur https://arstechnica.com
[03:59:42] <exec> └─ 13Digital exchange loses $137 million as founder takes passwords to the grave | Ars Technica
[03:59:43] <exec> 660 stories loaded
[03:59:43] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Digital exchange loses $137M as founder takes passwords to the grave"
[04:00:14] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[04:00:19] <exec> 660 stories loaded
[04:00:22] <exec> *** wiki: csrf token error
[04:31:59] <Bytram> =submit https://www.zdnet.com
[04:32:01] <exec> └─ 13New security flaw impacts 5G, 4G, and 3G telephony protocols | ZDNet
[04:32:02] <upstart> Submitting "New security flaw impacts 5G, 4G, and 3G telephony protocols | ZDNet"...
[04:32:24] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[04:35:26] <Bytram> time for bed; have a great night everyone!!
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[08:41:29] <janrinok> Hello eds - I'm still kicking!
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[12:33:03] <Bytram> ~tell janrinok Hi! Yes, I saw you have been posting some stories and 2nd others! Good to "see" you "back in the saddle" again!!!
[13:27:46] <Bytram> #g Venezuela 20 tons gold
[13:27:47] <MrPlow> https://www.bloomberg.com - "4 days ago ... Venezuelan lawmaker Jose Guerra dropped a bombshell on Twitter Tuesday: The Russian Boeing 777 that had landed in Caracas the day ..."
[13:31:30] <Bytram> #g tonne
[13:31:31] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The tonne (/tʌn/ ( About this sound listen)) (Non-SI unit, symbol: t), commonly referred to as the metric ton in the United States, is a non-SI metric unit of mass ..."
[15:24:05] <Bytram> ${abbr NAFTA}
[15:24:05] <fungus> <abbr title="North American Free Trade Agreement">NAFTA</abbr>
[15:24:31] <Bytram> ${abbr VPN}
[15:24:31] <fungus> <abbr title="Virtual Private Network">VPN</abbr>
[15:28:27] <Bytram> Fnord666: !!
[15:28:44] <Fnord666> Bytram!!
[15:28:58] <Bytram> How ya doin? Staying warm, I hope!!
[15:29:34] <Fnord666> Doing well and trying my best to stay out of the cold
[15:29:38] <Fnord666> yourself?
[15:30:13] <Bytram> heh. Went to clean up "tiny eye movements" story... saw you were in it... backed out... and now see you made the same changes I was looking to do!
[15:30:17] <Bytram> Fnord666++
[15:30:17] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 65
[15:30:20] <Bytram> =)
[15:30:23] <Fnord666> :)
[15:30:29] <Bytram> same here.
[15:30:40] <Fnord666> That's good
[15:30:51] <Bytram> is up to mid 20's F right now. A veritable warm spell!
[15:31:18] <Bytram> was in low single-numbers overnight for the past couple of days
[15:31:21] <Bytram> you?
[15:31:42] <Fnord666> It's 45F here currently so we are getting a decent melt off of the snow
[15:32:11] <Fnord666> Highs Wed/Thurs almost 60F if you can believe that
[15:32:26] <Bytram> we've got another day until it gets up to the 40's
[15:32:33] <Bytram> break out the shorts!
[15:32:37] <Fnord666> Nothing below freezing until Friday
[15:32:41] <Bytram> noice!
[15:32:54] <Fnord666> flip flop time!
[15:33:19] * Bytram works at a mall, and it seems no matter how cold it is outside, still sees folk walking around with iced coffees!
[15:33:32] <Bytram> is that a D-Type Flip Flop? ;)
[15:33:43] <Bytram> #g d-type flip flop
[15:33:43] <MrPlow> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws - "Electronics Tutorial about the D-type Flip Flop also known as the Delay Flip flop, Data Latch or D-type Transparent Latch used in Sequential Circuits."
[15:34:09] <Fnord666> Some. Although I rock a JK type occasionally
[15:34:14] * Bytram learned about those mumble mumble years ago when he was in college
[15:34:25] <Bytram> hrm?
[15:34:26] <Fnord666> ditto
[15:34:34] <Bytram> #g JK flip flop
[15:34:35] <MrPlow> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws - "Electronics Tutorial about JK Flip Flop and Master-Slave JK Flip Flop used in Sequential Logic Circuits that Toggles its own output."
[15:34:43] <Fnord666> https://www.elprocus.com
[15:34:45] <upstart> ^ 03Flip-Flop Circuit Types and Its Applications
[15:34:49] <Bytram> clicky
[15:35:34] <Bytram> The two inputs labelled “J” and “K” are not shortened abbreviated letters of other words, such as “S” for Set and “R” for Reset, but are themselves autonomous letters chosen by its inventor Jack Kirby to distinguish the flip-flop design from other types.
[15:35:47] <Bytram> Kirby? Didn't he make a vaccum cleaner?
[15:35:51] <Bytram> #g kirby vacuum
[15:35:52] <MrPlow> https://www.kirby.com - "Introducing, our best vacuum cleaner yet! The Avalir 2 is a powerful upright vacuum, carpet shampooer, hard floor cleaner, and so much more. This USA made ..."
[15:36:01] <Fnord666> He invented door to door sales I think
[15:36:02] <Bytram> ;)
[15:36:15] <fyngyrz> {abbr JK}
[15:36:15] <fungus> <abbr title="JK (Jack Kirby) Flip-Flop">JK</abbr>
[15:36:49] <Bytram> I actually gave it a try for a while, didn't sell any, but the training was invaluable. glad I had the experience.
[15:36:58] <Bytram> Just kidding!
[15:37:03] <Bytram> ;)
[15:37:15] <Fnord666> Nice jk tie in
[15:37:24] <Bytram> mare see!
[15:38:17] <Bytram> huh? wait a minute... later in the article they say "Both the S and the R inputs of the previous SR bistable have now been replaced by two inputs called the J and K inputs, respectively after its inventor Jack Kilby."
[15:38:24] <Bytram> Kilby or Kirby?
[15:38:37] <Bytram> #g jack kirby
[15:38:37] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Jack \"King\" Kirby was an American comic book artist, writer, and editor, widely regarded as one of the medium's major innovators and one of its most prolific and ..."
[15:38:39] <fyngyrz> {abbr JK}
[15:38:39] <fungus> <abbr title="JK (Jack Kilby) Flip-Flop">JK</abbr>
[15:38:46] <Bytram> #g jack kilby
[15:38:47] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Jack St. Clair Kilby (November 8, 1923 – June 20, 2005) was an American electrical engineer who took part (along with Robert Noyce) in the realization of the ..."
[15:39:00] <Bytram> ^^^ looks like it is THAT one
[15:39:44] <Bytram> coffee++
[15:39:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 91
[15:39:46] <Bytram> biab
[15:41:25] <Fnord666> ditto. I could use another coffee as well
[15:46:27] <Bytram> back! (and forth and... round and round!)
[15:47:13] <Bytram> fyngyrz: I'll have you know I am still trying to wrangle an accurate calculation of delta years, months, and days between two dates.
[15:47:22] <Bytram> =)
[15:47:28] <fyngyrz> good luck
[15:47:53] <Bytram> wish I had access to an implementation of gawk that support 64-bit time_t
[15:47:53] <fyngyrz> there are multiple imponerables
[15:47:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:48:28] <Bytram> one insight I had was to map the original date1 date2 to a base of year 2000 origin...
[15:49:20] <Bytram> however many years date1 is from the year 2000, subtract it from date2 and then work on that range... oh wait... leap years(!!!!) dang!
[15:50:17] <fyngyrz> I think the only way to do this with respect to the variable calendars would be to import a scientific package like EPHEM that takes everything into account
[15:50:28] <Bytram> still not hopeless, but now... a bit... more complicated.
[15:50:40] <fyngyrz> you tell it the epoch you're dealing with, and it'll give you some very accurate results
[15:51:03] <Bytram> yeah, or find a version of a program that can get me 64-bit epoch values.
[15:51:17] <fyngyrz> might be something out there
[15:51:41] <Bytram> gawk ws supposed to have been updated to handle that, but the version I have (for windows) though a later version, does not seem to have it. :(
[15:52:52] <Bytram> s/ws/was/
[15:52:53] <exec> <Bytram> gawk was supposed to have been updated to handle that, but the version I have (for windows) though a later version, does not seem to have it. :(
[15:52:55] <Bytram> cf: https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:52:57] <upstart> ^ 03Unix time - Wikipedia
[15:52:57] <exec> └─ 13Unix time - Wikipedia
[15:55:41] <Bytram> BTW, (almost) totally unrelated, but the slashcott was originally scheduled (as far as I can tell) from 20140210 thru 20140217
[15:55:49] <Bytram> #g slashcott
[15:55:50] <MrPlow> https://wiki.soylentnews.org - "Sep 16, 2016 ... The Slashcott (boycott) is getting attention. Show your support for the \"Get rid of Beta\" crowd by avoiding Slashdot during the week of February ..."
[15:56:21] <fyngyrz> https://www.calculator.net
[15:56:22] <upstart> Error: Title is empty
[15:56:23] <exec> └─ 13Date Calculator
[15:57:03] <Bytram> As much as I appreciate on-line resources, I like to have "in-house" copies of tools I use.
[15:57:21] <Bytram> Now, if they do that in-line with Javascript...
[15:57:34] <Fnord666> What? You don't like relying on things that could go away at any instant without notice?
[15:58:21] <Bytram> You mean like this: https://soylentnews.org
[15:58:22] <upstart> ^ 03Lowe's to Shut Down its Iris "Smart Home" Platform - SoylentNews
[15:58:23] <exec> └─ 13Lowe's to Shut Down its Iris "Smart Home" Platform - SoylentNews
[15:58:36] <Fnord666> Exactly
[15:58:58] <Fnord666> I won't touch any on that crap that doesn't support one or more of the open protocols
[16:02:29] <Bytram> ditto
[16:02:42] <Bytram> no alexa, cotana, siri, whatever for me
[16:11:22] <fyngyrz> what we need is a local speech-to-text capability that's worth a shit. Until that's accomplished, it's cloud or garbage quality STT
[16:12:16] <fyngyrz> MyCroft offers local STT, but it's terrible
[16:13:31] <Bytram> whatever happened to DragonDictate?
[16:13:36] <fyngyrz> everything else is in place
[16:14:02] <fyngyrz> you can set up an rPi and a relayboard and you have a network-aware "thing" that can do whatever for you
[16:14:21] <fyngyrz> I run some of my aquarium stuff that way
[16:14:26] <Bytram> separately, what are your thoughts on our running a story about the superb owl and inviting people to chat about the game and/or the adverts?
[16:14:53] <Bytram> s/superb owl/super bowl/
[16:14:55] <exec> <Bytram> separately, what are your thoughts on our running a story about the super bowl and inviting people to chat about the game and/or the adverts?
[16:15:08] <fyngyrz> I would think it would be of interest to some
[16:15:47] <Bytram> anyone know how to set up a new channel on IRC where we could then point folks to come and chat? Or should we just keep it all on site?
[16:15:58] <Bytram> *on the site
[16:16:16] <fyngyrz> I think you just "join", no?
[16:16:47] <Bytram> oh, and I'm trying/hoping to get enough stories queued through monday AM so we can let the site run itself 'til then.
[16:16:53] <Bytram> well, yeah...
[16:17:31] <Bytram> but I was thinking of creating a NEW channel, e.g. #Super_LIII (or whatever number this one is)
[16:17:44] <fyngyrz> again, I think you just join
[16:18:01] <Bytram> #g super bowl 2019
[16:18:01] <MrPlow> https://www.cbssports.com - "17 hours ago ... If you're looking for information about Super Bowl LIII, you've come to the right place."
[16:18:08] <fyngyrz> the act of joining will create the channel
[16:18:08] <Bytram> heh. got it right!
[16:18:48] <Bytram> not here, at least:
[16:18:50] <Bytram> SuperBowlLIII :No such channel
[16:19:02] <fyngyrz> okay. Huh.
[16:19:06] <Bytram> wait
[16:19:08] <Bytram> .op
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[16:19:21] <Bytram> nope. same.
[16:19:22] <Fnord666> I just created it
[16:19:29] <Bytram> how'd you do that?
[16:19:34] <Fnord666> did you forget the # in front?
[16:19:42] <Bytram> I used a /
[16:19:59] <Bytram> #join SuperBowlLIII
[16:20:10] <Fnord666> join #SuperBowlLIII
[16:20:15] <Fnord666> with a slash in front
[16:20:16] <Bytram> oh, doh!
[16:21:05] <fyngyrz> thought so
[16:22:03] <Bytram> =)
[16:27:52] <janrinok> Bytram, fyngyrz hello
[16:28:02] <fyngyrz> hola
[16:28:08] <janrinok> how's things?
[16:28:41] <Bytram> janrinok: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:28:51] <janrinok> Bytram, !
[16:29:10] <Bytram> from the man-of-few-words dept. =)
[16:29:32] <Fnord666> janrinok!!
[16:29:34] <janrinok> that's me - just have a few minutes spare, life is busy but not too bad
[16:29:43] * Bytram is trying to remember how to get oper privs on IRC to setup a #SuperBowlLIII channel for tonight's game
[16:30:15] * janrinok is trying to understand what Bytram just said
[16:30:44] <Bytram> In the USA, there's a big game tonight: the Super Bowl
[16:30:58] <Bytram> reminiscent of the livestream that NC did on twitch
[16:30:58] <janrinok> understood that bit!
[16:31:07] <Bytram> was thinking of trying to set up a channel
[16:31:18] <Bytram> for folk to join and disuss the game and/or the adverts
[16:31:23] <Bytram> *discuss
[16:31:27] <Fnord666> mostly the adverts
[16:31:34] <janrinok> so people can be on here rather than watch it?
[16:31:36] <Bytram> especially the adverts
[16:31:42] <Bytram> why not both?
[16:31:43] <Bytram> =)
[16:31:53] <janrinok> ... it must be an age thing
[16:32:20] <Bytram> get together with friends to watch the game and enjoy each others' company
[16:32:42] <Bytram> it's just a virtual gathering rather than in real life
[16:33:05] <janrinok> probably not covered by French tv...#
[16:33:12] <Fnord666> but not young and hip enough to be doing it on discord
[16:33:22] <Fnord666> like my kids do
[16:33:36] <janrinok> there you go again, 'discord' ???
[16:33:45] <Fnord666> or using rabbit so they can watch and comment at the same time
[16:34:11] <Fnord666> https://discordapp.com
[16:34:12] <upstart> ^ 03Discord - Free Voice and Text Chat
[16:34:13] <janrinok> ah discord - Free voice and Text chat for Gamers...#
[16:34:14] <exec> └─ 13Discord - Free Voice and Text Chat for Gamers
[16:34:36] <Bytram> which has been heavily used by alt-right supporters
[16:34:47] <janrinok> prolly best I avoid it then
[16:34:54] <Bytram> same here
[16:35:03] <Fnord666> and
[16:35:04] <Fnord666> https://www.rabb.it
[16:35:04] <upstart> ^ 03Rabbit - The way to watch anything with anyone
[16:35:24] <Bytram> and have them watch you while you do it!
[16:35:51] <janrinok> as Discord is free, I assume that the users are the product?
[16:36:11] <Fnord666> presumably
[16:36:21] * janrinok is no less of a cynic than he was 6 months ago
[16:36:55] <janrinok> got to get back in the kitchen before I burn something...
[16:37:09] <Fnord666> great to hear from you!
[16:38:21] <Bytram> back
[16:38:47] <Bytram> -ish need to take a quick break
[16:38:55] <Bytram> aka coffee--
[16:38:57] <Bytram> ;)
[16:39:21] <Fnord666> lol
[16:44:36] <Bytram> baCK
[16:49:19] <Bytram> while I am trying to wrangle privs on the channel, would very much if you guys could try and push out stories
[17:34:41] <janrinok> Fnord666, thx for your message. I'm fine but having to spend much more time taking care of S and my father died recently so I have also been busy attending his funeral and sorting out his affairs.
[17:36:17] <janrinok> I'll contribute when I can, but I cannot yet say how much time I will have until I have everything is sorted out.
[17:38:14] <Fnord666> janrinok I PMed you
[17:42:13] <Bytram> ~arthur https://arstechnica.com
[17:42:16] <exec> └─ 13FCC struggles to convince judge that broadband isn’t “telecommunications” | Ars Technica
[17:42:16] <exec> 625 stories loaded
[17:42:17] <exec> attempting to submit story: "FCC struggles to convince judge that broadband isn’t “telecommunications”"
[17:42:47] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[17:42:53] <exec> 625 stories loaded
[17:55:38] <Bytram> coffee++
[17:55:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 92
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[19:12:37] <Bytram> Fnord666: Well! That was a bit more work than I expected! SB story has been subbed and is awaiting your review and posting
[19:13:16] <Bytram> WOW!!! Look at all the stories you pushed out! Thanks so much!
[19:15:25] <Bytram> Looking at the story queue, looks like 21:00 (UTC) would be a good time to slot it into. Can move my Bell Canada story to the top of the story queue (let all the other stories go out ahead of it) to get it out of the way
[19:15:55] <Bytram> break time... biab
[19:29:24] * chromas notes that the internet is used by the alt right
[19:38:50] <Bytram> Fnord666: I pushed it out; is awaiting being 2nded. Have it slotted in for 2100 UTC; I hope to be back and have my systems rearranged by then so I can be ready to help with any issues in the channel. Feel free to move it earlier if you can handle things before then!!
[19:39:34] <Bytram> see ya in about 90 minutes or so, parking permitting!
[19:57:27] <Fnord666> Cool. I looked it over and I think it looks great.
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