#editorial | Logs for 2018-06-10
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[00:00:06] <mrpg> Oh, the bees submission looks sooo good and smart
[00:00:50] <mrpg> This also looks interesting: L[ane]C[ommunity]C[ollege] Instructor Accused of Alt-Right Ties
[00:01:18] <mrpg> My keyboard has alt-left and alt-Gr
[00:01:40] <mrpg> But we all know alt-gr is just the alt-right IN DISGUISE
[00:08:44] <mrpg> I won't do anything more for today, I'm tired.
[00:09:30] <mrpg> I'll do one more to get to 600 stories.
[00:09:41] <mrpg> https://soylentnews.org
[00:09:42] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[00:09:43] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[00:10:17] <mrpg> I'll do "In desert trials, next-generation water harvester delivers fresh water from air: Kilogram of MOF pro"
[00:17:30] <mrpg> Fresh Water from AIr -ready
[00:17:44] <mrpg> 600 stories, I want to thank me
[00:17:45] <mrpg> me++
[00:17:45] <Bender> karma - me: 10
[00:18:19] <mrpg> And all the citizens that sent the submissions, the ones accepted and the ones rejected.
[00:19:04] <mrpg> !karma me
[00:19:04] <Bender> karma of me is 10
[00:19:14] <mrpg> !karma mrpg
[00:19:14] <Bender> karma of mrpg is 36
[00:27:56] <chromas> mrpg++
[00:27:56] <chromas> mrpg++
[00:27:56] <Bender> karma - mrpg: 37
[00:27:56] <Bender> karma - mrpg: 38
[00:27:59] * chromas smakes his net connection
[00:28:29] <mrpg> Thank you
[00:28:48] <mrpg> #weather pyongyang, nk
[00:28:52] <chromas> In your browser, alt-left moves back, alt-right moves forward. hmm
[00:29:18] <mrpg> you're right. alt-right.
[00:29:24] <MrPlow> Today: Tomorrow:
[00:29:33] <mrpg> #weather seoul, south korea
[00:29:33] <MrPlow> Today: Generally cloudy. High 78F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Tomorrow: A mix of clouds and sun early, then becoming cloudy later in the day. High 78F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.
[00:30:17] <mrpg> #weather seoul, south korea
[00:30:17] <MrPlow> today: generally cloudy. high 78f. winds ene at 5 to 10 mph. tomorrow: a mix of clouds and sun early, then becoming cloudy later in the day. high 78f. winds ne at 5 to 10 mph.
[00:30:31] <mrpg> #weather pyongyand, north korea
[00:30:31] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[00:30:42] <mrpg> #weather pyongyang, north korea
[00:30:55] <MrPlow> Today: Showers early, then cloudy in the afternoon. High 74F. Winds E at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Tomorrow: Partly to mostly cloudy. High 77F. Winds light and variable.
[00:32:35] <mrpg> #weather buenos aires, argentina
[00:32:37] <MrPlow> Today: Showers late. Lows overnight in the mid 50s. Tomorrow: Rain showers in the morning becoming more intermittent in the afternoon. High 63F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
[00:33:24] <mrpg> 63F is 17C. Cool.
[00:33:32] <mrpg> #weather la plata, argentina
[00:33:57] <MrPlow> Today: Showers late. Lows overnight in the mid 50s. Tomorrow: Showers in the morning, then cloudy in the afternoon. High 64F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 50%.
[00:34:35] <mrpg> #weather south pole, anctartica
[00:34:35] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[00:34:39] <mrpg> booo
[00:35:06] <chromas> ~weather antarctica
[00:35:08] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[00:35:16] <chromas> ~weather antarctica, antarctica
[00:35:18] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[00:35:27] <mrpg> #weather Antarctica
[00:35:27] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[00:35:51] <mrpg> #weather south pole, Antarctica
[00:35:52] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[00:36:11] <mrpg> #weather mcmurdock base, Antarctica
[00:36:12] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[00:42:55] <mrpg> COBRA KAI NO MERCY
[00:53:57] <Bytram> ~weather Dome C, Antarctica
[00:53:59] <exec> 10Dome C - currently -78°F / -61°C, partly cloudy, wind SW at 10 mph, humidity 100% - Sunday mostly cloudy (-81°F:-70°F / -63°C:-57°C), Monday cloudy (-81°F:-63°F / -63°C:-53°C), Tuesday cloudy (-80°F:-68°F / -62°C:-56°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (-81°F:-72°F / -63°C:-58°C)
[00:54:05] <Bytram> =)
[00:55:05] <Bytram> ~weather Rustaq, Oman
[00:55:06] <exec> 10Rustaq, Oman - currently 96°F / 36°C, clear, wind W at 5 mph, humidity 14% - Sunday sunny (90°F:109°F / 32°C:43°C), Monday sunny (88°F:111°F / 31°C:44°C), Tuesday sunny (85°F:108°F / 29°C:42°C), Wednesday sunny (89°F:107°F / 32°C:42°C)
[00:55:35] <Bytram> ~weather Mitribah, Kuwait
[00:55:37] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[00:55:59] <Bytram> ~weather Basrah, Iraq
[00:56:01] <exec> 10Basrah, Iraq - currently 88°F / 31°C, clear with periodic clouds, wind W at 9 mph, humidity 27% - Sunday cloudy (86°F:114°F / 30°C:46°C), Monday cloudy (86°F:113°F / 30°C:45°C), Tuesday sunny (86°F:113°F / 30°C:45°C), Wednesday sunny (86°F:113°F / 30°C:45°C)
[00:57:34] <Bytram> .
[00:57:34] <Bytram> .
[00:57:35] <Bytram> https://www.anandtech.com
[00:57:39] <exec> └─ 13AMD Demos 7nm Vega GPU: Betting Big on Machine Learning for Radeon Instinct; Shipping This Year
[00:57:54] <upstart> ^ 03AMD Demos 7nm Vega GPU: Betting Big on Machine Learning for Radeon Instinct; Shipping This Year
[01:03:42] <Bytram> .
[01:03:43] <Bytram> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[01:03:45] <upstart> ^ 03STIs: Why is syphilis is on the rise? - BBC News
[01:03:46] <exec> └─ 13STIs: Why is syphilis is on the rise? - BBC News
[01:04:12] <Bytram> exec: s/is/IS/g
[01:04:14] <exec> <Bytram> <exec> └─ 13STIs: Why IS syphilIS IS on the rISe? - BBC News
[01:04:25] <Bytram> oopsy!
[01:05:15] <mrpg> syphilis is on the rise because is on the rise
[01:05:51] * Bytram chuckles
[01:05:55] <Bytram> you got it!
[01:06:04] <Bytram> is it really?
[01:06:10] <Bytram> brb
[01:06:17] <mrpg> quote: He says this recent rise in cases of syphilis has been driven in part by behaviour changes particularly among men who have sex with men.
[01:06:36] <mrpg> and the use of drugs which makes people take more risks.
[01:07:04] <mrpg> Take normal risks, walk at 2 am on the streets.
[01:07:35] <mrpg> Although chlamydia - ...- has fallen among the whole population, it has risen among men who have sex with men, along with syphilis and gonorrhoea. Cases of each of these three infections have risen by roughly 20% in a year.
[01:07:53] * Bytram tosses his aspirin... just to safe
[01:08:26] <mrpg> #g betadine
[01:08:26] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Povidone-iodine (PVP-I), also known as iodopovidone, is an antiseptic used for skin ... It is sold under a number of brand names including Betadine."
[01:08:27] <upstart> ^ 03Povidone-iodine - Wikipedia
[01:08:47] <Bytram> I wonder...
[01:08:50] <mrpg> #g neocodione
[01:08:51] <MrPlow> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov - "Therapie. 2004 Sep-Oct;59(5):547-53. [Neocodion misuse: evolution between 1992 and 2002]. [Article in French]. Armand C(1), Thirion X, Saillard C, ..."
[01:08:52] <upstart> ^ 03[Neocodion misuse: evolution between 1992 and 2002]. - PubMed - NCBI
[01:08:59] <mrpg> #g codeina
[01:08:59] <MrPlow> https://es.wikipedia.org - "La codeina (DCI) o metilmorfina es un alcaloide que se encuentra de forma natural en el opio. Se utiliza con fines médicos como analgésico, sedante y ..."
[01:08:59] <Bytram> #g alphadine
[01:09:00] <upstart> ^ 03Codeína - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre
[01:09:00] <MrPlow> http://www.rxwiki.com - "Jan 9, 2015 ... Alphadine is a brand name medication included in the following groups of medications: Antiseptics, Iodine products, Medicated dressings with ..."
[01:09:01] <upstart> ^ 03Alphadine - Side Effects, Uses, Dosage, Overdose, Pregnancy, Alcohol | RxWiki ( https://www.rxwiki.com )
[01:09:06] <Bytram> #g gammadine
[01:09:06] <MrPlow> https://www.gammadyne.com - "Avoid pricey email marketing services by relaying email through your own server. Gammadyne Mailer sends personalized email campaigns and processes ..."
[01:09:07] <upstart> ^ 03Email Marketing Software - Gammadyne Mailer
[01:10:06] * Bytram goes to take a look at the queues
[01:11:08] <mrpg> There are two super sciency subsmissions about bees and brains. Not zombie-related.
[01:11:20] <Bytram> bzzzzzzzt!
[01:11:42] <mrpg> BTW, I stil havent seen the video.
[01:12:34] <Bytram> which video?
[01:12:58] <Bytram> looking at iPhone always tracks your movements
[01:14:03] <Bytram> iPhone always tracks your movements @ 2018/06/11 01:01:00
[01:16:37] <Bytram> urk.
[01:16:53] <Bytram> submission has a bit to be desired after reading the linked story
[01:21:36] <Bytram> .me buzzes over to the bees story
[01:22:26] <mrpg> The brain story has a video, wow, a brain just removed from the craneum.
[01:22:34] <mrpg> #g craneum
[01:22:34] <MrPlow> https://craneum.com.br - "A Craneum apresenta seu novo serviço de Escaneamento Intraoral para Moldagem Digital, com muitas vantagens para pacientes e profissionais. Saiba mais ..."
[01:22:39] <mrpg> #g craneo
[01:22:40] <MrPlow> https://soundcloud.com - "VIDEOCLIPS https://www.youtube.com FANSO https://soundcloud.com aka. Sloth Brite. 21 Tracks. 7580 Followers. Stream ..."
[01:22:42] <upstart> ^ 03CRANEO | Free Listening on SoundCloud
[01:22:45] <upstart> ^ 03CraneoMedia - YouTube
[01:22:46] <upstart> ^ 03FANSO | Free Listening on SoundCloud ( https://soundcloud.com )
[01:22:47] * Bytram looks at brains
[01:23:07] <mrpg> skull.
[01:23:53] <Bytram> #g if I only had a brain
[01:23:53] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com - "May 26, 2011 ... The Wizard of Oz movie clips: http://j.mp BUY THE MOVIE: http://bit.ly Don't miss the HOTTEST NEW TRAILERS: ..."
[01:23:54] <upstart> ^ 03If I Only Had a Brain - The Wizard of Oz (4/8) Movie CLIP (1939) HD - YouTube
[01:23:56] <upstart> ^ 03The Wizard of Oz (1939) - Movie - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[01:23:57] <upstart> ^ 03The Wizard of Oz | Buy, Rent or Watch on FandangoNOW ( https://www.fandangonow.com )
[01:24:11] <Bytram> #g if I only had a brain scarecrow
[01:24:12] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com - "May 26, 2011 ... The Wizard of Oz movie clips: http://j.mp BUY THE MOVIE: http://bit.ly Don't miss the HOTTEST NEW TRAILERS: ..."
[01:24:13] <upstart> ^ 03If I Only Had a Brain - The Wizard of Oz (4/8) Movie CLIP (1939) HD - YouTube
[01:24:15] <upstart> ^ 03The Wizard of Oz (1939) - Movie - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[01:24:16] <upstart> ^ 03The Wizard of Oz | Buy, Rent or Watch on FandangoNOW ( https://www.fandangonow.com )
[01:25:27] <Fnord666> #g cranium
[01:25:28] <MrPlow> https://boardgamegeek.com - "Cranium bills itself as the \"whole-brain\" game. It's a party game that borrows from a host of other popular party games of recent times. Players have to ..."
[01:25:28] <upstart> ^ 03Cranium | Board Game | BoardGameGeek
[01:25:34] <Bytram> Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful @ 2018/06/11 03:22:00
[01:25:52] <Bytram> oops
[01:26:02] <Fnord666> Fortunately they removed it from a politician so it won't be missed
[01:26:12] <Fnord666> Next up? The heart!
[01:26:15] <Bytram> Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful @ 2018/06/11 02:38:00
[01:26:48] <Bytram> #g heartless Heart
[01:26:49] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org(Heart_song) - "\"Heartless\" is a song written and recorded by the rock band Heart in 1976 for their album Magazine. Issues with the band's previous record label Mushroom ..."
[01:26:49] <upstart> ^ 03Heartless (Heart song) - Wikipedia
[01:27:07] <mrpg> Thank you, you got to see the video?
[01:27:22] <mrpg> #g song insensitive
[01:27:23] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org(song) - "\"Insensitive\" is the title of a track from the 1994 Jann Arden album Living Under June; an international hit single, \"Insensitive\" remains the career record for Jann."
[01:27:24] <upstart> ^ 03Insensitive (song) - Wikipedia
[01:28:19] <Bytram> afk dishes
[01:28:52] <Bytram> on second thought... woke up way too early today... think I'm gonna hit the hay early tonight
[01:29:06] <Bytram> have a great night everyone!
[01:29:35] <mrpg> I'm sleepy. I'm leaving for today too, bye.
[01:31:05] <Fnord666> Good night both of you! Pleasant dreams
[01:31:13] <Bytram> mrpg: pleasant dreams
[01:31:27] <Bytram> Fnord666: and a good night to you, as well!
[01:31:36] <Fnord666> Thank you
[01:32:23] <Bytram> mrpg: and, if I did my math right, let me be the first to congratulate you on posting your 600th story!!!
[01:32:33] <mrpg> yes , thanks!
[01:32:34] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[01:32:35] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[01:32:37] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[01:32:46] <mrpg> When will it update?
[01:33:11] <Bytram> Fnord666: Looks like cmn32480 better watch out... you're gaining ground!
[01:33:58] <Bytram> mrpg: I don't know... as far as I can tell somewhere between 0400 and 0500 Eastern Time, but have been unable to nail it down for sure.
[01:34:31] <Bytram> and... that was from memory, and may or may not take account of Daylight Saving Time
[01:34:39] <Bytram> ~time x
[01:34:41] <exec> Sunday, 10 June 2018 @ 1:34 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[01:34:45] <Bytram> ~time Boston
[01:34:47] <exec> Saturday, 9 June 2018 @ 9:34 pm EDT - Boston, MA
[01:34:55] <Fnord666> I'm right on his heels
[01:35:03] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:35:47] * Bytram bets he's just playing dead while resting up for a sprint that will leave us all in his dust. Or maybe not.
[01:36:02] <Fnord666> Maybe we need to add a "generated on $date $time" to the hof page
[01:36:22] <Bytram> "we"? Be my guest! ;)
[01:36:22] * Fnord666 agrees
[01:36:32] <Fnord666> ok
[01:36:51] <Fnord666> You're heading for bed but we could discuss at a future time
[01:37:00] <Bytram> question is... how would the time be recorded and where would it be stored?
[01:37:24] <Bytram> IIUC, it is processed as part of a chron job
[01:37:26] <Fnord666> now you're just complicating things
[01:37:43] <Bytram> ~blame
[01:37:45] * exec points at Bytram
[01:38:04] <Fnord666> It would be generated at the time that chron runs and would be a static part of the page. I'm assuming the rest of the page is static as well
[01:38:08] <Bytram> It's what I do, I find out where things ain't all there
[01:38:25] <Bytram> different kind of static
[01:39:06] <Bytram> IIRC it's part of a template, with perl code filling in the template
[01:39:58] <Fnord666> Makes sense. I expect the page to be a template with PERL querying the DB for the totals, etc. and then writing a "static" page used for the next 34 hours
[01:40:15] <Bytram> Fnord666: s/3/2/
[01:40:17] <exec> <Bytram> <Fnord666> Makes sense. I expect the page to be a template with PERL querying the DB for the totals, etc. and then writing a "static" page used for the next 24 hours
[01:40:19] <Fnord666> :)
[01:40:21] <Bytram> hth
[01:41:16] <Fnord666> Do a PERL time function right then and write out the date/time into a placeholder in the template just like is done with the other stats.
[01:41:56] <mrpg> BTW, the rss feed looks borked in vivaldi. The browser, not the rapper from 1700
[01:41:59] <Bytram> fwiw, the template is: main;hof;default
[01:42:05] <mrpg> vivaldi in budgie linux
[01:42:43] * Bytram looked at the HTML source to the rendered hof page -- templates flag when they are entered and exited
[01:43:59] <Fnord666> Sorry, really didn't mean to get anything going right now. You were off to bed.
[01:44:39] <Bytram> np
[01:44:55] <Bytram> here's a quick summary of its parameters... paste bomb coming
[01:44:58] <Bytram> main, hof, default
[01:44:58] <Bytram> * width = passed to titlebar
[01:44:58] <Bytram> * actives = arrayref of arrayrefs of most active stories
[01:44:58] <Bytram> * visited = arrayref of arrayrefs of most visited stories
[01:44:58] <Bytram> * activea = arrayref of arrayrefs of most active authors
[01:44:58] <Bytram> * activep = arrayref of arrayrefs of most active polls
[01:45:02] <Bytram> * currtime = current time string
[01:45:05] <Bytram> * topcomments = arrayref of hashrefs of top 10 comments
[01:45:06] <Bytram> finis
[01:46:10] <Fnord666> Is the page rendered with each load?
[01:46:21] <Bytram> AIUI, yes.
[01:47:11] <Fnord666> ah so the generated time would have to be created when cron runs, then save a generated time that would be passed to the render.
[01:47:17] <Bytram> it's just a few loops spitting out values into defined formats... compute load is miniscule
[01:47:22] <Fnord666> s/render/renderer/
[01:47:24] <exec> <Fnord666> ah so the generated time would have to be created when cron runs, then save a generated time that would be passed to the renderer.
[01:47:25] <Bytram> bingo!
[01:47:37] <Bytram> and that is what i was trying to say at the outset
[01:47:46] <Fnord666> yeah that sounds like more trouble than it's worth
[01:48:13] <Fnord666> I was thinking that since the data doesn't change often on that page it could be completely static and built by a cron job
[01:48:37] <Bytram> okaaaay, and where would we store *that*
[01:48:45] <Fnord666> The cron job would use the template, etc. but the resulting page could then be deployed as a static page.
[01:48:57] <Bytram> from where?
[01:49:17] <Bytram> a hard-coded file on the disk?
[01:49:54] <Bytram> remember, this is a general story / commenting system -- above and beyond the particular usage of what we have here at SN
[01:51:03] <Bytram> given how few times that hof is invoked (maybe 10-20 times a day?) ... this is simple and it works. There are plenty of other places where the time investment would likely prove more productive, at least in my opinion.
[01:51:11] <Fnord666> Understood but I would expect there to be a mechanism for creating and displaying static pages such as an "about" page
[01:51:40] <Fnord666> Oh sure, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the way it works or questioning it.
[01:51:43] <Bytram> that said, I still *like* the idea of a time stamp! "This page was generated with taken as of..."
[01:52:20] <Fnord666> I was making a wag as to how that particular page was handled. In this case an incorrect one as well
[01:52:23] <Bytram> ISTR those "static" pages are just templates that have no variable data.
[01:52:51] <Bytram> if memory serves, I believe the site FAQ is one example.
[01:53:14] <Bytram> anyway, think I *will* head to bed... was fun chatting w/ ya!!!!
[01:53:47] <mrpg> don't spam the editorial channel with your perl things
[01:53:50] <Fnord666> You too. Good night Bytram. Pleasant dreams
[01:53:50] <Bytram> hey, I just realized I may have seemed adversarial... notmy intent at all! just way too many years of QA just leapt to the fore
[01:54:04] <Fnord666> oh no, not at all.
[01:54:06] <Bytram> no hard feelings I hope!
[01:54:07] <mrpg> Good night all bye
[01:54:08] <Bytram> oh, goodi
[01:54:15] <Fnord666> absolutely not.
[01:54:17] <Bytram> laters taters!
[01:54:28] <mrpg> later skater
[01:54:30] <Fnord666> ciao my friends
[01:54:35] <mrpg> bye
[01:54:41] <Fnord666> good night mrpg
[01:54:46] <Fnord666> pelasant dreams
[01:54:56] <Fnord666> s/pelasant/pleasant/
[01:54:58] <exec> <Fnord666> pleasant dreams
[01:55:01] <mrpg> thanks to you too
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[23:37:03] <mrpg> Hi all. I'll do "Real Estate Booming in Chinese-NK Border Town"
[23:37:19] <mrpg> #weather pyongyang, north korea
[23:37:32] <MrPlow> Today: Tomorrow:
[23:38:05] <mrpg> It happened. It was flattened by the US nuclear bombs.
[23:38:30] <mrpg> #weather cicely, alaska, USAç
[23:38:30] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[23:38:39] <mrpg> #weather cicely, alaska, USA
[23:38:45] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[23:39:14] <mrpg> #weather monterrey, mexico
[23:39:18] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[23:39:25] <mrpg> Ok, something less sinister happened.
[23:46:41] <mrpg> china real estate - ready
[23:48:08] <mrpg> https://www.independent.co.uk
[23:48:09] <upstart> ^ 03US air force F-15 fighter jet crashes off Japan | The Independent