#editorial | Logs for 2018-04-04

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[01:24:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg. children are quite time consuming.
[01:59:27] <chromas> disown
[02:04:18] <fyngyrz> A gag, a bundling bag, a feeder tube, and a waste chute and they're no problem at all. It also helps to keep the music turned up a bit.
[02:11:55] <chromas> fyngyrz: s/w.*?e/poop/
[02:12:17] <fyngyrz> doens't work here
[02:12:18] <chromas> zero sedbots botting
[02:12:23] <fyngyrz> aye
[02:12:29] <chromas> ah, exec died
[02:13:19] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
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[02:14:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i'm not making MrPlow do sed
[02:14:33] <chromas> #smake migh' buzz up
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[02:15:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> fyngyrz, for the moment i'd say just go to your repo on github, select the branch you want to make a pull request from, and look off to the right for the make a pull request button. only thing you should need to do is verify it's coming from the proper branch on your repo and going to master on the SN repo.
[02:17:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep your eyes on dev and i can prolly do a step by step something tomorrow morning. it's supposed to rain anyway so i won't be skipping out to go fishing.
[02:17:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/dev/#dev/
[02:17:21] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> keep your eyes on #dev and i can prolly do a step by step something tomorrow morning. it's supposed to rain anyway so i won't be skipping out to go fishing.
[02:17:40] <fyngyrz> I'll try
[02:18:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> just don't lose your backscroll and it'll be there when you can get around to it.
[02:18:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, time for bed. see yall tomorrow.
[02:49:42] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[02:49:44] <upstart> ^ 03Intel admits a load of its CPUs have Spectre v2 flaw that can't be fixed • The Register ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[03:03:58] <Bytram> Fnord666: sub queue looks a little "picked over" -- just subbed a story to help out
[03:04:07] <Bytram> break time
[03:04:43] <chromas> Too bad we can't just sorta delete subs without reason
[03:05:03] <chromas> without it being considered rejected. Not very transparent though
[03:06:23] <Bytram> well, if we are sure that we are not going to use it, and it's from an AC... then no reason is necessary
[03:07:20] <Bytram> also, 'reject' is a loaded word... 'declined to use' is a similar, but different expression which more accurately applies in some cases
[03:11:21] <Bytram> chromas: Fnord666: can you guys handle things from here? I slept poorly last night, and have a very busy day ahead tomorrow.
[03:11:37] <chromas> Sure, I can poke a few stories in
[03:11:49] <Bytram> much obliged!
[03:11:59] * chromas queues up dancing hamster and rickroll
[03:12:03] <Bytram> Fnord666++ pushing out stories
[03:12:03] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 37
[03:12:08] <Bytram> chromas++ pushing out stories
[03:12:08] <Bender> karma - chromas: 18
[03:12:44] <Bytram> oh, swell... from the sounds of things, a neighbor just started up the laundry machine next door. :/
[03:13:00] <Bytram> well, either way... I'm gonna hit the sack.
[03:13:06] <Bytram> have a great night everyone!
[03:13:13] <chromas> ~g'night Bytram
[03:13:20] <Bytram> ~gnight chromas
[03:13:25] <Bytram> no bot :(
[03:13:29] * chromas reportedly hucks a pizza at Bytram
[03:13:52] <Bytram> cmn32480: your bot is pining for the fjiords... again.
[03:13:57] <Bytram> #smake exec
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[03:14:02] <Bytram> ciao for now
[03:47:29] <chromas> Mebbe I won't. Fnord666 took all the good subs :D
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[05:04:14] <aristarchus> Always glad to help, chromas!
[05:07:00] <aristarchus> But do pay attention to the dept. on the bitcoin one.
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[11:42:53] <Bytram> CoolHand: !! Thanks for 2nding!
[11:42:56] <Bytram> CoolHand++
[11:42:56] <Bender> karma - coolhand: 39
[11:46:10] <Bytram> got a busy day ahead... was able to push out a few stories to get us past the morning... hope someone else can chip in and carry us through the rest of the day
[11:46:46] <Bytram> takyon++ for your awesome story submission productivity
[11:46:47] <Bender> karma - takyon: 75
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[11:51:16] <Bytram> ~blame
[11:51:27] * exec points at Bytram
[11:51:33] * Bytram waves back
[11:51:39] <Bytram> cmn32480: !!
[11:51:47] <cmn32480> ~GDAY bytram
[11:51:48] * exec defiantly pisses a hatful of Uranus on bytram
[11:52:31] <Bytram> would love to stay and chat, but have a big corporate visit today, so everything needs to be in tip-top shape
[11:52:50] <Bytram> heavy rain atm, too, so am hoping to head out the door earlier than normal
[11:53:19] <cmn32480> hoya... and byeya!
[11:53:28] * Bytram chuckles
[11:53:54] <cmn32480> s/byeya/boyya/
[11:53:54] <sedctl> <cmn32480> hoya... and boyya!
[11:53:56] <exec> <cmn32480> hoya... and boyya!
[11:53:58] * Bytram would much rather just crawl back into bed, but is not in the cards for today, alas.
[11:54:16] * cmn32480 suggest tthat Bytram get in line with the rest of us who wanna do that
[11:54:16] <Bytram> cmn32480: s/boy/girl/
[11:54:30] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:54:39] <Bytram> well, 'nuf procrastinating...
[11:54:43] * Bytram hits the showers
[11:54:45] <Bytram> laters
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[14:35:15] <fyngyrz> #submit https://techcrunch.com
[14:35:16] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:35:17] <exec> └─ 13Facebook to exclude US users from some privacy enhancements – TechCrunch
[14:35:41] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[14:35:42] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[14:44:33] <fyngyrz> #submit https://www.techdirt.com
[14:44:33] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:44:35] <exec> └─ 13Court Says Scraping Websites And Creating Fake Profiles Can Be Protected By The First Amendment | Techdirt
[14:44:59] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[14:45:00] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[15:12:23] <fyngyrz> #submit https://www.nytimes.com
[15:12:23] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:12:25] <exec> └─ 13Google Workers Urge C.E.O. to Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. Project - The New York Times
[15:12:49] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:12:50] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[15:21:34] <fyngyrz> #submit https://www.geekwire.com
[15:21:34] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:21:36] <exec> └─ 13Breakthrough ‘parallel reality’ display technology promises to personalize the world, without goggles – GeekWire
[15:21:59] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:22:00] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[16:32:10] <chromas> I'm hogging all the good subs. Nya nya!
[16:56:28] <fyngyrz> All my subs are good subs. :)
[16:56:55] <fyngyrz> Any opinions to the contrary are bad opinions.
[16:58:07] <chromas> I think yours are all enqueued
[16:58:18] <fyngyrz> as it should be, ramen
[16:58:34] * chromas doesn't have opinions; only facts
[16:58:48] * fyngyrz admires chromas' stance
[17:00:00] <chromas> The rest are mostly political or merge-ables, so I'll leave them for someone else
[17:00:29] <fyngyrz> yeah... A lot of what's in the submit queue is pretty lame, IMHO
[17:00:45] <fyngyrz> that's actually what got me to go out and hunt a bit
[17:01:05] <chromas> Good work, sir. That way I don't have to put in the effort :D
[17:01:06] <fyngyrz> I'm very short on time
[17:01:27] <fyngyrz> well, I'll hunt them down if you'll edit them into usability :)
[17:05:09] <fyngyrz> #submit https://blogs.microsoft.com
[17:05:10] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[17:05:13] <exec> └─ 13Like a phone call: XiaoIce, Microsoft’s social chatbot in China, makes breakthrough in natural conversation - The AI Blog
[17:05:35] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[17:05:36] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[17:05:55] <chromas> Hey, it showed up
[17:06:10] <chromas> unlike Sulla's sub earlier
[17:08:50] <fyngyrz> I'll hold off on seconding those unless someone else doesn't get to them before the story queue gets critical. As I understand it, we're not supposed to edit our own submissions
[17:10:39] <chromas> The acceptance should be done by someone else, but I think the rules around seconding are a little more lax.
[17:11:04] <fyngyrz> well, I'm new here, so I'm trying to not be "that guy."
[17:11:06] <cmn32480> Correct. We are not supposed to post our own stuff to the queue
[17:11:07] * chromas thinks the software could use an update in the automatic time slot prediction dept
[17:11:18] * fyngyrz agrees
[17:11:41] <fyngyrz> But TMB is about all they have for updates right now, and he's clearly overloaded
[17:11:43] <cmn32480> 2nding is a little more relaxed, but it is preferrable to not touch your own stuff once it hits the sub queue.
[17:12:02] * chromas likes to touch his own stuff, though :(
[17:12:08] <cmn32480> fyngyrz: s/overloaded/lazy/
[17:12:10] <exec> <cmn32480> <fyngyrz> But TMB is about all they have for updates right now, and he's clearly lazy
[17:12:24] <cmn32480> fyngyrz: s/overloaded/fishing or lazy/
[17:12:25] <exec> <cmn32480> <fyngyrz> But TMB is about all they have for updates right now, and he's clearly fishing or lazy
[17:12:29] <cmn32480> that's better
[17:13:01] <fyngyrz> One thing about that is that the submit from IRC produces a really skeletal TFS. I'd like to be able to go in there and edit at least a little bit so that the submission is more in line with what I would consider adequate.
[17:13:22] <fyngyrz> But then again, not doing so leaves me free to hunt down more subs, so there's that
[17:13:25] <cmn32480> have you looked to see if you can sub it via Arthur?
[17:13:44] <fyngyrz> um... Arthur?
[17:13:51] * chromas thinks exec should automatically use arthur to submit whenever arthur supports the site
[17:14:03] <cmn32480> https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[17:14:05] <upstart> ^ 03Storybot - SoylentNews
[17:14:06] <exec> └─ 13Storybot - SoylentNews
[17:14:17] <cmn32480> use ~arthur and the id to sub the entire text of the artic;e
[17:14:20] <chromas> ^ 12Storybot - SoylentNews
[17:14:23] <chromas> :D
[17:14:36] <cmn32480> └─ Storybot - SoylentNews
[17:14:41] <cmn32480> :D
[17:14:49] <fyngyrz> You know, frankly, someone should extensively doc what all these bots do. I've looked at the bot page in the wiki, and that is some vague-ass shite.
[17:14:58] <chromas> O' course, with arthur, you have to take away from the sub instead of adding to it
[17:15:01] <fyngyrz> I learned basically nothing from it
[17:15:17] <cmn32480> yep
[17:15:20] <cmn32480> that's normal
[17:15:23] <cmn32480> ~list
[17:15:23] <exec> ~list ~list-auth ~lock ~unlock
[17:15:23] <exec> ~! ~addr ~api ~arthur ~aur ~bday ~butt ~calc ~cat ~cd ~cid ~comments ~confucius ~convert ~count ~cowsay ~deb ~define ~define-add ~define-count ~define-delete ~define-sources ~devs ~eds ~exec-issue ~execfs ~fah ~filter ~filth ~first ~forex ~fortune ~funding ~g ~g'day ~g'night ~gday ~get ~github-add ~github-del ~github-list ~gnight ~google ~grab ~header ~header-login ~help ~isup ~jisho ~last ~link ~links ~location ~log ~ls ~md ~mkdir ~moo ~nyse
[17:15:23] <exec> ~openthepodbaydoors ~perl6 ~php ~queue ~quickpoll ~quote ~rainbow ~random ~rd ~rehash-issue ~remind ~rmdir ~romajidesu ~rps ~scramble ~sed ~seen ~set ~shorten ~sizeof ~sneak ~sneak-server ~staff ~stash ~story-search ~submit ~suggest ~suggest-api ~suggest-exec ~suggest-rss ~tell ~time ~time-add ~time-del ~time-prefs ~title ~trans ~translate ~translate-sl ~uid ~unset ~unstash ~up ~vote ~weather ~weather-add ~weather-del ~weather-old ~weather-prefs
[17:15:23] <exec> ~welcome ~wget ~youtube ~yt
[17:15:28] <cmn32480> that's the basics
[17:15:41] <cmn32480> ~help perl6
[17:15:49] <chromas> Speaking of overloaded
[17:16:10] <cmn32480> #smake exec
[17:16:10] * MrPlow smakes exec upside the head with a printout of the rehash source
[17:16:30] <cmn32480> I op exec and don'ty know what half of that shit does
[17:16:47] <fyngyrz> good grief
[17:17:01] <chromas> Some of it was for another irc network I think
[17:17:01] <cmn32480> I'm only his op... crutchy is to blame for writing him
[17:17:26] <fyngyrz> ~help submit
[17:17:30] <cmn32480> yeah... some is for freenode, some is for his IRC network in his office
[17:17:41] <fyngyrz> um... help?
[17:17:46] <cmn32480> help[ is borken
[17:17:52] <fyngyrz> oh, _good_
[17:17:52] <cmn32480> so yeah....
[17:18:16] <chromas> Seems to me it fits right in with rehash
[17:19:08] <cmn32480> rehash is all documented in NCommander's head
[17:19:21] <cmn32480> quick.. cut it off and pour out the knowledge!
[17:19:40] <chromas> If Bender had block-grabs…
[17:20:41] <chromas> If there were a few more good subs I could make it a day of chromas :D
[17:21:10] <chromas> [intense shuffling]
[17:21:22] * cmn32480 thinks about positng somethign of crap to prevent that
[17:21:34] <fyngyrz> are the bots part of rehash, in the sense that if I was a dev on rehash, I could work on them?
[17:21:56] <fyngyrz> I'm still looking around. It's hard to find good, non-political tech stuff
[17:22:17] <cmn32480> the bots are the property of whomever ops them
[17:22:33] <fyngyrz> okay, so the broken help can only be fixed by them
[17:22:36] <cmn32480> upstart adn chromas belong to chromas
[17:22:52] <cmn32480> exec is mine (but programmed by crutchy)
[17:22:53] <chromas> exec is on github, but crutchy's mostly gone and I'm not sure if cmn32480 has the time to do pulls
[17:22:58] <fyngyrz> where does an IRC not live?
[17:23:00] <cmn32480> MrPlow is TheMightyBuzzard
[17:23:16] <fyngyrz> s/not/bot/
[17:23:17] <exec> <fyngyrz> where does an IRC bot live?
[17:23:25] <chromas> on the internet :)
[17:23:32] <cmn32480> exec lives on a linux box in my DMZ
[17:23:39] <chromas> DMZ you say
[17:23:40] <fyngyrz> I am unclear on this
[17:23:59] <chromas> bots are just regular clients that connect, so anyone can run a bot
[17:24:02] <fyngyrz> is it basically a logged-in user?
[17:24:05] <fyngyrz> ah
[17:24:10] <cmn32480> pretty much
[17:24:18] <cmn32480> most of them are nickserved
[17:24:40] <fyngyrz> hm. I could bring my macro language in as a bot.... holy hell would that set a fox among the sheep
[17:24:57] <chromas> You most definitely should
[17:25:10] <fyngyrz> have you SEEN my macro language, lol?
[17:25:11] <cmn32480> #smake chromas
[17:25:11] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a chainsaw
[17:25:36] <chromas> We have a #test channel
[17:26:10] <fyngyrz> oh, noes, you really should not have encouraged me. ow I can't stop thinking about it
[17:26:19] <fyngyrz> s/ow/now/
[17:26:21] <exec> <fyngyrz> oh, noes, you really should not have encouraged me. now I can't stop thinking about it
[17:26:37] <cmn32480> the ow was your braIN HURTING BECAUSE YOU ABUSED IT BY THINKING
[17:26:41] <cmn32480> oops
[17:27:04] <fyngyrz> that might be
[17:27:53] * fyngyrz goes off to look for a Python source code example of an IRC bot
[17:32:48] <chromas> Altogether, we've had bots in c, c++, c#, d, Pascal, perl, python, php and rust
[17:33:07] * fyngyrz is fond of Python 2.7
[17:33:22] <cmn32480> and chromas' list is just MrPlow.
[17:40:01] <fyngyrz> okay, IRC question. Want to crete a validated ID on nickserv for the bot. I know how to log in, how to validate. Can I then sign out so the robot can sign in?
[17:40:19] <cmn32480> correct
[17:40:23] <fyngyrz> how?
[17:40:35] <cmn32480> you create it the first time... let the bot auth with nickserv after
[17:40:36] <fyngyrz> what's the "sign out" cmd?
[17:40:56] <fyngyrz> or do I not need to sign out?
[17:40:58] * cmn32480 has no idea... I jsut disconnect as that user
[17:41:06] <fyngyrz> that 60 sec window allow for two sign ins?
[17:41:10] <chromas> /msg nickserv logout
[17:41:12] <fyngyrz> hm ok
[17:41:14] * chromas accidentaly it
[17:41:38] <cmn32480> nah you sign in, reg the nick
[17:41:43] <cmn32480> sign out
[17:41:51] <cmn32480> and then get the bot signed in automagically
[17:41:55] <chromas> You can also register through the bot
[17:41:58] <fyngyrz> ok, got it
[17:42:16] <fyngyrz> lemme see what I can do here.
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[17:51:24] <fyngyrz> I don't see a test channel?
[17:51:40] <cmn32480> #test
[17:52:05] <fyngyrz> oh, I see, it appears when someone joins it
[17:53:28] <chromas> Many of the channels are +s to keep dumb spam bots out
[17:53:34] <chromas> +s hides it from /list
[17:53:45] <fyngyrz> ah
[17:54:11] <fyngyrz> okay, more work on this then. ID established, setting up stuff
[17:54:24] <fyngyrz> you REALLY should nto have encouraged me :)
[17:55:30] <fyngyrz> anyone using '.' for a bot prefix that you know of?
[17:55:34] <fyngyrz> .test
[17:55:42] <fyngyrz> hmm, looks good
[17:56:30] <chromas> chanserv uses . for some things. .kick, .op et cetera
[18:06:33] <fyngyrz> #submit https://www.scientificamerican.com
[18:06:34] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[18:06:35] <exec> └─ 13Resisting Technology, Appalachian Style - Scientific American
[18:06:36] <chromas> Hm, jr points out the google pentagon story is kind of a dupe. This article has a lot more words though
[18:06:50] <chromas> (and is newer)
[18:06:59] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[23:31:54] <fyngyrz> $aa {sub http://www.lightsondata.com}
[23:31:54] <fungus> #submit http://www.lightsondata.com
[23:31:57] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[23:32:02] <exec> └─ 13The benefits and risks of standard data models - LightsOnData
[23:32:05] <exec> └─ 13LightsOnData - Articles and resources for data management in non-profits, governmental, and higher-ed organizations
[23:32:22] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[23:35:36] <fyngyrz> $aa {list}
[23:35:37] <fungus> aa_macro chromas dt dude help list nick sub
[23:40:18] <fyngyrz> $aa {list}
[23:40:18] <fungus> aa_macro chromas dt dude help list nick sub
[23:41:02] <fyngyrz> $aa {list}
[23:41:02] <fungus> aa_macro chromas dt dude h help list nick sub
[23:41:15] <fyngyrz> $aa {h dude}
[23:41:15] <fungus> style help:
[23:41:47] <fyngyrz> $aa {h dude}
[23:41:47] <fungus> style help: Kudos to whomever you provide as a parameter
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[23:46:50] <fyngyrz> $aa {h sub}
[23:46:50] <fungus> style help: {sub URL} -- Submits a story from fungus (not from you)
[23:49:53] <fyngyrz> $aa {h nick}
[23:49:53] <fungus> style help: {nick} -- Emits the nick of whoever is invoking the bot
[23:49:59] <fyngyrz> $aa {h sub}
[23:49:59] <fungus> style help: {sub URLs} -- Submits a story from fungus (not from you)
[23:50:13] <fyngyrz> $aa {h sub}
[23:50:13] <fungus> style help: {sub URL} -- Submits a story from fungus (not from you)
[23:51:53] <fyngyrz> $aa {list}
[23:51:53] <fungus> (specifics {h item}): aa_macro chromas dt dude h help list nick sub
[23:52:15] <fyngyrz> $aa {list}
[23:52:15] <fungus> For specifics, try {h item}: aa_macro chromas dt dude h help list nick sub
[23:52:47] <fyngyrz> gah, thought I was in test
[23:52:50] <fyngyrz> gone
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