#editorial | Logs for 2018-03-15

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[01:52:01] <chromas> Where do userless submissions come from?
[01:52:14] <cmn32480> see
[01:52:20] <cmn32480> now I had to read that twice...
[01:52:36] <cmn32480> I read "useless submissions" the first time
[01:53:12] <cmn32480> all that means is that the submitter cleared the box for who submitted the article
[01:53:32] <cmn32480> assuming you mean this one
[01:53:32] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[01:53:33] <upstart> ^ 03Astro Spiral: Revisiting the greatest car stunt of all time: SoylentNews Submission
[01:53:36] <exec> └─ 13Astro Spiral: Revisiting the greatest car stunt of all time: SoylentNews Submission
[01:54:13] <chromas> Ah. I assumed it didn't allow that
[01:54:19] <cmn32480> nope
[01:54:30] <cmn32480> it allows nothing.. or anything
[02:21:04] <Bytram> So THAT is how it happens! It should automatically replace a blanked-out name field w/ Anonymous Coward... would make less work for us.
[02:21:14] * Bytram makes a mental note of it.
[02:22:34] <cmn32480> bytram - heard anythign from JR?
[02:23:03] * cmn32480 has a mental filing cabinet that looks like a garbage dump. dig long enough adn you might find nearly anything
[02:46:27] <cmn32480> #roll 5d 3546
[02:46:27] <MrPlow> Roll the dice. #roll 3d6 throws=6
[02:46:33] <cmn32480> #roll 5d3546
[02:46:33] <MrPlow> pass 1: 12730
[02:46:45] <cmn32480> #roll 178600d3546
[02:46:45] <MrPlow> chromas, is that you? stop being a wiseass.
[02:46:51] <cmn32480> #sammich
[02:46:51] * MrPlow whips up a BLT sammich for cmn32480
[02:47:08] <cmn32480> damnit... now I is hungry
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[02:55:29] <Bytram> cmn32480: not yet
[02:55:39] <Bytram> thought he was going in tomorrow am?
[02:55:41] <cmn32480> rats... was hoping I was allowed to eat
[02:55:46] <cmn32480> oh
[02:55:51] <cmn32480> you meant JR.. not my sammich
[02:56:01] <Bytram> gnawed gnawed
[02:56:06] <Bytram> ;)
[02:56:06] <cmn32480> I thought it was today... but I've been wrong before
[02:57:00] <Bytram> about 14 hrs ago in this channel "<janrinok> I won't be doing much on here today - I'm preparing for my op at early o'clock tomorrow morning."
[02:57:23] <Bytram> don't worry any, you'll be wrong again, too
[02:57:29] <Bytram> ;)
[02:57:39] <cmn32480> prollyl inside hte next 10 minutes
[02:57:44] <cmn32480> I am posting stories after all
[02:58:01] <Bytram> LOL!
[02:58:18] <cmn32480> I'm an editor.. doing shit correctly and right has NO PLACE IN THIS JOB!
[02:58:20] <Bytram> how's your trip going?
[02:58:25] <cmn32480> long
[02:58:37] <Bytram> sorry tio hear that
[02:58:39] <cmn32480> fubar'd my luggage when I put stuff together...
[02:58:45] <Bytram> howso?
[02:58:48] <cmn32480> had to go to Walmart to get clean socks
[02:59:14] <Bytram> i was on a one-day business trip that ended up taking three days.
[02:59:14] <cmn32480> apparently I forgot them for at least 3 days worht of this trip
[02:59:28] <cmn32480> walmart for clean undies!
[02:59:32] <cmn32480> done taht
[02:59:53] <Bytram> was supposed to go down, get the testing done, and head back that night...
[03:00:19] <Bytram> well, I did such a good job finding bugs, that they could not come up with the fixes while I was there
[03:00:40] <Bytram> so they had me stay over while they coded the fixes and then I could test THOSE
[03:00:41] <cmn32480> oops!
[03:00:59] <Bytram> which i promptly blew up, so got to stay another day
[03:01:17] <Bytram> off to the store for another shirt, pants, shorts, and socks
[03:01:29] <cmn32480> lol
[03:01:30] <cmn32480> yeah
[03:01:47] * Bytram was debating whether or not to submit them as part of my trip reimbursement
[03:01:56] <cmn32480> it sucks... i usually do
[03:01:57] <Bytram> decided against it in the end
[03:02:15] <Bytram> figured if they paid for 'em, they'd want 'em back
[03:02:23] <cmn32480> they can have 'em
[03:02:36] <Bytram> I kinda liked the choices I'd made and wanted to keep 'em
[03:02:38] <cmn32480> I've done it with steel toed boots
[03:02:42] <Bytram> lol
[03:02:50] * Bytram holds nose
[03:02:56] <cmn32480> custoemr failed ot mention that they were required even after I asked about PPE
[03:03:04] <Bytram> ruh roh
[03:03:19] <cmn32480> I went out at lunch the first day and bought me a real nice pair of steel toed boots
[03:03:26] <cmn32480> had blisters...
[03:03:38] <Bytram> so, I am at my seester's place house sitting for the next 10 or so days.
[03:03:43] <Bytram> ouch!!!!!
[03:03:54] <cmn32480> but no clip clops (or the massive headache they cause) for the remainder fo the trip
[03:03:57] * Bytram places an order for an ACME super magnet
[03:04:16] <cmn32480> are you allowed to stand too?
[03:04:29] <cmn32480> or do you ahve to walk in the front door and immediately get on your butt?
[03:04:47] <Bytram> I fear if I attempt that, then the geriatric killer kitty will attempt an attack on my toes
[03:04:52] <cmn32480> they giving like a furniture dolly or something to help you get around ?
[03:05:17] <Bytram> Hello, Dolly!
[03:05:38] * Bytram is knackered
[03:05:44] <cmn32480> nah... that'd be the personal flotation devices for the pool
[03:06:08] <Bytram> had the late shift at work; our dept was downsized, so I got to cover the whole depot from 4pm until close
[03:06:16] <cmn32480> ewwww
[03:06:19] <cmn32480> sorry to hear that
[03:06:27] <Bytram> oh, and we got about 18" of heavy snow out of the last storm
[03:06:37] <Bytram> my sis had arranged for a plow guy to come over
[03:06:45] <Bytram> which he did last night around 8pm or so
[03:06:45] <cmn32480> it was 73 and Sunny here today
[03:06:55] <Bytram> figured it should not be too bad in the AM
[03:06:58] <Bytram> heh
[03:07:21] <Bytram> took me about 1 1/2 hrs with a b ig two-stage snowthrower to clear things out
[03:07:32] * Bytram is sore
[03:07:35] <cmn32480> I bet
[03:07:36] <Bytram> but
[03:07:42] <cmn32480> but the kitty appreciates it...
[03:07:55] <cmn32480> and it'll never tell you.. .servent!
[03:08:26] <Bytram> I have a very nice place to stay tonight, an old kitty that has finally taken aliking to me, and I just finished off a apple caramel pie
[03:08:40] <cmn32480> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[03:08:45] <cmn32480> ~gnight bytram
[03:08:47] * exec unnecessarily shoves a udp packet of spiders in bytram
[03:08:57] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:08:59] * exec cohesively vomits a vial of jesus juice on cmn32480
[03:09:10] <Bytram> I hates spiders!
[03:09:14] * cmn32480 looks at the time and decideds to finsih this story and sack out
[03:09:29] <Bytram> not really, but it seemed apropos
[03:09:48] <Bytram> really appreciate your pushing out stories
[03:10:20] <Bytram> I'm off tomorrow, so should be able to stay on top of things at the start of the day
[03:10:23] <cmn32480> i try to help when I can... and I know our ransk are currently decimated
[03:10:29] <Bytram> sack time for me, too
[03:10:47] <Bytram> well, chromas and fyngyrz look to be coming along nicely
[03:10:55] <Bytram> mrpg has been a solid presence
[03:11:10] <Bytram> and fnord666 has been pushing out stories like crazy
[03:11:13] <cmn32480> fyngyrz?
[03:11:18] <Bytram> yuppers
[03:11:27] * cmn32480 musta missed that one
[03:11:36] <Bytram> he's made some kinda comment about a mistake in a story
[03:11:44] <Bytram> wasn't the first he'd seen
[03:11:52] <cmn32480> then strap on a staff role...
[03:12:01] <Bytram> replied that is how I got starteed as an editor.... interested?
[03:12:05] <Bytram> he said yes. !!
[03:12:18] <cmn32480> he'll regret it.. just liek the rest of us
[03:12:28] <Bytram> not sure where his training stands
[03:12:43] <Bytram> chromas is up and going on prod; mostly starting off with 2nding duties
[03:12:59] <Bytram> I expect fyn will not be far behind
[03:13:20] <Bytram> hey, it is late... get yer butt to bed
[03:13:24] * cmn32480 makes a note that he can now blame chromas officially
[03:13:29] <cmn32480> yes dad
[03:13:32] <cmn32480> you do the same
[03:13:32] <Bytram> don't mkae me .kick you!
[03:13:36] <Bytram> nodnod
[03:13:38] <Bytram> yes, son
[03:13:40] <Bytram> ;)
[03:13:43] <Bytram> laterz
[03:13:46] <cmn32480> good through oon
[03:13:49] <cmn32480> *noon
[03:13:53] <cmn32480> night
[03:13:54] <Bytram> yays!
[03:14:17] <Bytram> cmn32480: that should put you at the 2950 mark and thensome
[03:14:28] <Bytram> ciao for now
[03:14:29] * cmn32480 shurgs
[03:16:46] <cmn32480> says the guy push 5000 stories... jebers
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[13:31:10] <Bytram> cmn32480: 5000? Not yet, but I am still working at it. =)
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[13:38:22] * Bytram waves hellow to fyngyrz
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[13:53:51] <fyngyrz> ~gday Bytram
[13:53:53] * exec illegitimately stuffs a stein of the pronic into Bytram
[13:55:22] <Bytram> ~gday fyngyrz
[13:55:24] * exec ceremoniously hangs a trigger warning sign about a wagon of thorns on fyngyrz
[13:55:28] <fyngyrz> lol
[13:56:05] <Bytram> #g pronic
[13:56:05] <MrPlow> http://pronic.com - "Pronic est le spécialiste mondial du taraudage et de l'insertion sous presse, basé à Marignier (Haute-Savoie). Retrouvez l'ensemble de nos solutions et nos services pour tout vos travaux d'insertion ou de taraudage."
[13:56:07] <upstart> ^ 03Pronic In-die Solutions - Accueil ( http://pronic.com )
[13:56:21] <Bytram> well, that helped a 'lot'
[13:56:35] <fyngyrz> same
[13:57:13] <chromas> Might be like the chronic, but porn
[13:57:18] <chromas> pr0n
[13:57:36] <fyngyrz> futzing with new phone this morning. Moving images and notes and the like over to it. New phones are a big pushup for me
[13:58:37] <fyngyrz> in between uploads to it, checked all of today's upcoming posts, looked fine
[13:59:00] <fyngyrz> I have yet to catch one in "yellow" where I could second it
[13:59:04] * Bytram got a new phone in early jan and is still trying to get up to speed with it.
[13:59:13] <fyngyrz> which phone?
[13:59:19] <Bytram> fyngyrz: look now
[13:59:21] <Bytram> =)
[13:59:42] <fyngyrz> I see a red one, no yellow
[13:59:48] <chromas> You want reds
[13:59:51] <fyngyrz> I do?
[13:59:51] <chromas> Yellows are yours
[13:59:55] <fyngyrz> mmm
[13:59:58] <Bytram> what he said
[14:00:06] <fyngyrz> okay, hang on
[14:00:13] * Bytram hangs out
[14:01:00] <fyngyrz> not much to that one - mostly quote, and we don't muck with quotes unless they're excessive or something, yes?
[14:01:10] <Bytram> correct
[14:01:20] <Bytram> btw, just because a story is green does not mean it cannot be 3rded...
[14:01:36] <Bytram> after a while, we all et afflicted by 'word soup'
[14:01:42] <fyngyrz> Yeah, I did one the other day, had a turn of phrase I'd never even seen before, so I changed it
[14:01:50] <fyngyrz> it posted that way, so I guess it was okay. :)
[14:01:53] <Bytram> yay!
[14:02:07] <fyngyrz> that's what I thought
[14:02:52] <Bytram> for example, there is a story on the story list page which has a title with 'little words' still in caps... that could be fixed. which one am I talking about?
[14:03:23] <fyngyrz> I use my macro language to do that according to the US spec
[14:03:35] <Bytram> k
[14:03:48] <Bytram> try loading: https://soylentnews.org
[14:03:50] <upstart> ^ 03Game Developer Embraces Modding Community So Much They Made Those Guys' Work An Official Release - SoylentNews
[14:03:51] <exec> └─ 13Game Developer Embraces Modding Community So Much They Made Those Guys' Work An Official Release - SoylentNews
[14:04:07] <Bytram> and see if it would offer different capitalization
[14:04:07] <fyngyrz> it's [capt the stoey headline] - makes it super easy
[14:04:51] <chromas> I meant to fix that but I didn't want to update it again just for one fix
[14:04:54] * chromas lazies
[14:05:08] <fyngyrz> "Game Developer Embraces Modding Community So Much They Made Those Guys' Work an Official Release - Soylentnews"
[14:05:43] <chromas> Now can you change it with a regex? :D
[14:06:04] <Bytram> this is a bit tricky -- elements of preferences and style... what are the KEY words that convey the meaning/context of the story?
[14:06:10] <Bytram> Game Developer Embraces Modding Community so Much They Made Those Guys' Work an Official Release
[14:06:15] <fyngyrz> I try not to involve myself with regex, frankly. Strikes me as the hard way to do almost anything.
[14:06:21] <Bytram> cause 'so' is so short,
[14:06:39] <fyngyrz> That's not how titlecase capitalization works. There's a standard.
[14:06:43] <Bytram> but 'so much' ties together... so... capitalize it anyway?
[14:07:10] <Bytram> which standard are you referring to?
[14:07:10] <chromas> Most titles aren't in title grammar anymore either.
[14:07:16] <Bytram> chromas++
[14:07:16] <Bender> karma - chromas: 15
[14:08:28] <chromas> Most Titles Not in Title Grammar
[14:08:37] <Bytram> I'm not arguing, mind you, this is an area that I am still not entirely comfortable, and am open to anything that helps clarify
[14:09:15] <fyngyrz> I use the GPO (USG) standard
[14:09:31] * Bytram is not familiar with that one
[14:09:33] <fyngyrz> You can try here:
[14:09:51] <fyngyrz> http://ourtimelines.com
[14:09:51] <upstart> ^ 03aa_macro syntax / display
[14:09:54] <Bytram> we have a guide for our site, but it may take me a couple minutes to find it... hold on
[14:09:58] <fyngyrz> just enter:
[14:10:11] <fyngyrz> [capt your title verbiage] in the bottom box, then press Test
[14:10:33] <fyngyrz> That's a very careful implementation of the USG standard
[14:10:36] <Bytram> chromas: fyngyrz: if you are not already aware, trey: /join #rss-bot to see a feed of stories that might be a good submission to the site.
[14:11:14] * Bytram does not use the soylentnews 'automation' -- all plain vanilla for me
[14:11:26] <fyngyrz> At this point, for a couple reasons, I'm sticking with seconding (and thirding, etc.) other people's work.
[14:11:43] <Bytram> is fine
[14:11:49] <fyngyrz> One is time. Right now, life is getting in my bloody way
[14:12:01] <fyngyrz> Another is comfort - trying to watch and learn
[14:12:10] <Bytram> also, never hurts to submit a story or two, too
[14:12:15] <Bytram> oh, yup. nod nod
[14:13:11] <fyngyrz> When I was offered the opportunity to do editing, I had in mind catching some of the errors I saw in the posted stories in order to try to make the site look a little better
[14:13:23] <fyngyrz> I had no idea you guys worked as hard as you do on this tuff
[14:13:36] <fyngyrz> s/tuff/stuff/
[14:13:38] <exec> <fyngyrz> I had no idea you guys worked as hard as you do on this stuff
[14:13:44] <chromas> Use ~submit in private to exec so nobody knows the story came from you and then you can edit your own submissions :)
[14:13:46] <takyon> submiting is teh hardest job
[14:14:19] <Bytram> #submit https://phys.org from the math is not THAT hard dept
[14:14:19] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[14:14:21] <exec> └─ 13High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks
[14:14:25] <Bytram> #smake MrPlow
[14:14:25] * MrPlow smakes MrPlow upside the head with a special snowflake
[14:14:33] <Bytram> ~submit https://phys.org from the math is not THAT hard dept
[14:14:35] <exec> error: title not found or empty
[14:14:36] <exec> └─ 13High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks
[14:14:42] <Bytram> feh
[14:14:45] <takyon> High number of bots unable to do basic submission tasks
[14:14:58] <fyngyrz> lol
[14:15:05] <Bytram> takyon: I whole-heartedly agree! I am amazed at how many stories you push out in a day!
[14:15:46] <Bytram> fyngyrz: that was my experience, as well... that duck may look calm paddling across a pond, but those feet are churning like crazy just to make any progress at all
[14:17:05] <Bytram> interesting... this is what I see when I do a 'view source' on that story:
[14:17:08] <Bytram> <title>High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks</title>
[14:17:28] <Bytram> :(
[14:17:35] <chromas> Plus there're several meta tags with title
[14:17:42] <chromas> #smake bots
[14:17:42] * MrPlow smakes bots upside the head with a cybernuke
[14:18:04] <fyngyrz> "High Number of Adults Unable to Do Basic Mathematical Tasks"
[14:18:24] <fyngyrz> :)
[14:19:09] <chromas> High Number of News Sites Unable to Title Caps; Some Use CSS to Make All Caps Though
[14:19:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: why your bot cannot see a title on: https://phys.org
[14:19:12] <upstart> ^ 03High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks
[14:19:13] <exec> └─ 13High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks
[14:19:36] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[14:20:03] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:20:17] * upstart should add a submit command
[14:20:20] <Bytram> ~submit https://phys.org
[14:20:24] <exec> └─ 13High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks
[14:20:29] * fyngyrz hands ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ to TheMightyBuzzard
[14:20:54] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[14:20:59] <chromas> Does exec just dislike the extra text?
[14:21:09] <Bytram> looks like it. :/
[14:21:20] <chromas> That's no excuse for MrPlow though
[14:21:37] <Bytram> when I saw that it *could* display the title for the page, gave me the idea to resumit the story
[14:21:40] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:22:41] <fyngyrz> What does the + mean by your usernames?
[14:23:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, MrPlow's excuse is i don't give enough of a damn to fix it.
[14:23:42] <chromas> fyngyrz: + means Voiced
[14:24:00] <fyngyrz> okay (goes down rabbit hole) what does "Voiced" mean?
[14:24:21] <chromas> Which is mostly used for status, but also if the channel is set to Moderated, then only those with Voice can talk
[14:26:08] * fyngyrz it's very dark in this rabbit hole
[14:26:13] <chromas> You should have voice (and a fancy vhost) but you're not identified with nickserv
[14:26:30] <chromas> If you login with your password then you get the perks
[14:26:33] <fyngyrz> I'm using the web IRC client at soylent
[14:26:48] <fyngyrz> I don't think I have a password on IRC?
[14:26:59] * fyngyrz not very familiar with IRC
[14:27:19] <fyngyrz> I used to know some things, but it's been many years
[14:27:40] <fyngyrz> ...and my neurons have all fallen over
[14:28:18] <fyngyrz> I ee some verbiage about registration. Will look at that
[14:28:25] <fyngyrz> s/ee/see/
[14:28:27] <exec> <fyngyrz> I see some verbiage about registration. Will look at that
[14:29:35] <takyon> I found HexChat easier to use. once configured I just have to open it and it handles login and backscroll
[14:29:51] <takyon> I use web IRC when I login from somewhere else
[14:30:07] <chromas> It's not mandatory but you'd get the + and have access to the secret channels where we laugh at the proles
[14:31:45] <fyngyrz> hexchat isn't supported on the mac any longer
[14:32:01] <fyngyrz> okay, I registered with nickserv
[14:32:15] <chromas> Plus you can do this
[14:32:15] <chromas> !bier Loggie
[14:32:15] * Bender geeft een flesje hoegaarden aan Loggie
[14:33:45] <chromas> I don't have a mac but there's limechat and textual
[14:33:53] <chromas> I think they're mac-only even
[14:34:44] <fyngyrz> I prefer the web client if I can manage to stay with it. More windows I don't need
[14:34:59] <fyngyrz> I am running a _lot_ of stuff
[14:35:16] <fyngyrz> Have four monitors full of windfows
[14:35:30] <fyngyrz> s/winfows/windows/
[14:35:41] <fyngyrz> lol nm
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[14:35:56] <chromas> Do they each get the menu or is it only on one screen?
[14:36:17] <fyngyrz> they each get the menu
[14:36:44] <fyngyrz> menu is contextually linked to the app last or currently active on that display
[14:37:37] <takyon_> https://www.youtube.com
[14:37:38] <upstart> ^ 03SOMEBODY TOUCHA MY SPAGHET (Full Version) - YouTube
[14:37:39] <exec> └─ 13SOMEBODY TOUCHA MY SPAGHET (Full Version) - YouTube
[14:39:16] <Bytram> fyngyrz: at some point, it would be good if we could get you set up with a 'bouncer' (ZNC); basically it's a MITM that queues up channels while you are away and lets you scroll back to see what has happened in the interim
[14:39:23] <Bytram> see Deucalion for info on that
[14:39:36] <Bytram> there should be something on the site wiki about how to set it up
[14:40:09] <fyngyrz> I can see the logs. Is that not sufficient?
[14:40:32] <Bytram> I was one of the earlier ones to get set up and Deucalion walked me through the setup... at about 0230 one morning... I just followed directions as given and somehow it worked out
[14:40:41] <Bytram> well, yes, but not as convenient
[14:42:08] <fyngyrz> I wonder why you folks have not moved on to something more modern and capable, similar to Slack or Ryver, but locally hosted? There are some really good ones, like rocket.chat, that bring up modern features, allow all kinds of addons like the commands you have here
[14:42:24] <fyngyrz> then there's no issue with lookback, etc
[14:42:52] <fyngyrz> free, open source, etc
[14:43:33] <fyngyrz> IRC reminds me of playing Adventure on my 6809 emulator. :)
[14:43:38] <Bytram> there were a couple of other things around at the outset -- some kind of BB thingy IIRC but that got dropped. I think iRC was a LCD that gained a foothold and there is many years' stuff filed away from it
[14:43:59] <fyngyrz> Basically... inertia, then
[14:44:45] <Bytram> I suppose. It is generally available on all the platforms that people use, or a viable alternative exists (web interface)
[14:44:56] <Bytram> perfect is the enemy of the good
[14:45:19] <Bytram> ahh, found it: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[14:45:20] <upstart> ^ 03ZNC - SoylentNews
[14:45:22] <exec> └─ 13ZNC - SoylentNews
[14:45:52] <fyngyrz> looking
[14:46:17] <Bytram> k
[14:46:47] <Bytram> key line before you do anything with it: "Assumptions at this point are that you have a SoylentNews IRC nick, have it registered with nickserv, have an irc client (rather than using the web interface) and are SN staff.. "
[14:47:07] <fyngyrz> according to the docs, doesn't work with the web interface
[14:47:16] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:47:27] <Bytram> okaaaay
[14:47:35] <Bytram> are you registered with nickserv?
[14:47:37] <fyngyrz> or at least, doesn't look like it, very line you quoted
[14:47:41] <fyngyrz> yes
[14:47:46] <Bytram> yays!
[14:48:07] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:48:42] <Bytram> it may not be supported, atm, but have you tried the version of HexChat for the mac?
[14:48:52] <fyngyrz> no. As I said, too many windows already
[14:48:59] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:49:17] * Bytram is quite the noob when it comes to IRC
[14:49:42] <fyngyrz> I have sixteen applications running right now on four monitors. That's about my mental limit
[14:49:53] * Bytram has some (limited) privs, but mostly to be able to do necessary things when guided by others when the need arises
[14:49:55] <Bytram> oy!
[14:50:15] <Bytram> or is that 'oi!'
[14:50:21] <fyngyrz> either/both
[14:50:24] <Bytram> k
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[14:50:45] <fyngyrz> sometimes it feels like 'ole'
[14:50:52] <fyngyrz> red cape and all
[14:50:59] <Bytram> fyngyrz++
[14:50:59] <Bender> karma - fyngyrz: 2
[14:51:38] <Bytram> ~submit https://phys.org
[14:51:41] <exec> └─ 13Teenagers more likely to plead guilty to crimes they didn't commit
[14:52:11] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[14:52:16] <fyngyrz> "People offered plea bargains are more likely to plead guilty to crimes they didn't commit"
[14:53:23] <fyngyrz> which will be my first comment if that story posts. :)
[14:53:29] <Bytram> lessee... DA has a whole staff behind him... I have a public defender... what are my chances that I will win out? Better cut my losses.
[14:53:42] <Bytram> s/him/him or her/
[14:53:44] <exec> <Bytram> lessee... DA has a whole staff behind him or her... I have a public defender... what are my chances that I will win out? Better cut my losses.
[14:54:07] <fyngyrz> true dat
[14:54:21] <fyngyrz> and they know it damned well
[14:54:31] <fyngyrz> they being the prosecution
[14:54:52] * Bytram knows more about this than he wishes he did
[14:55:26] <fyngyrz> sorry to hear it
[14:55:58] * Bytram is thankful there was a judge who could see through things and was able to mitigate the impact to just a misdemeanor
[14:56:19] <fyngyrz> at this point, I don't trust a conviction to mean what it's supposed to mean. The whole system is corrupt as hell
[14:56:25] <fyngyrz> (US legal system)
[14:56:48] * Bytram chalks it up to a lesson in life that helps him to see a part of others' lives in ways who could never have before imagined
[14:57:26] <fyngyrz> well, that's something, eh?
[14:57:41] <Bytram> lemons / lemonade... yano?
[14:58:02] <fyngyrz> Glad it worked out that way for you
[14:58:14] <Bytram> appreciate that
[14:58:46] * Bytram hopes to never have to go through something like that ever again
[14:58:55] <Bytram> anyway...
[14:59:35] <Bytram> nothing is coming to mind atm about the bouncer stuff... looks like the IRC window and the site logs is the best option atm
[14:59:44] * Bytram is jealous of 4 monitors
[14:59:46] <fyngyrz> yeah, I don't mind
[15:00:13] <Bytram> if that's the biggest problem I have today, then things are actually pretty good.
[15:00:29] <fyngyrz> I've been considering six. I've got them, and the video card, but my desk space would need rejiggered
[15:00:40] <Bytram> yowza!
[15:01:01] <fyngyrz> I do need more screen space. Hey, and then I could an IRC client. :)
[15:01:09] <fyngyrz> (could run)
[15:01:35] <Bytram> imagine having really hi-res VR goggles where you could create virtual monitors of any size and move 'em around as needed =)
[15:02:02] <fyngyrz> Also, Apple keeps promising to do a new Mac Pro this year, with the mistakes of that awful "trashcan" addressed somehow, so I'm trying to hold out until I see what that's about
[15:02:09] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:02:29] <Bytram> #g Apple WWDC 2018
[15:02:30] <MrPlow> https://www.techradar.com - "1 day ago ... The Apple WWDC 2018 date is officially set for June 4th to the 8th, right in line with expectations. And, though it's still months away, it's already highly anticipated to include big announcements. For developers, it offers a chance to get an idea of what they'll be working with in the coming year, so they can ..."
[15:02:35] <upstart> ^ 03Apple WWDC 2018: what we want to see | TechRadar
[15:02:42] <fyngyrz> this machine is a bit old, but it's reasonably hefty. 12/24 cores, 3 GHz, 64gb ram
[15:02:51] * Bytram drools
[15:03:17] <fyngyrz> was $1500 on EBay. :)
[15:03:39] * Bytram has a donated core 2 duo dell laptop 6GB RAM and 500GB WD black hard disk
[15:03:45] <Bytram> what a deal!
[15:03:48] <fyngyrz> If Apple comes through, they'll take a chunk of my soul for a new Mac Pro
[15:04:02] <Bytram> I suspect you would not be the only one
[15:04:15] <fyngyrz> used Mac Pros like this one are very good bargains, if you're into macs. Or you can put something else on them, of course
[15:04:19] <fyngyrz> than osx, I mean
[15:04:51] * Bytram has never been enamored of Apple products... felt too constricted
[15:05:03] <fyngyrz> I understand
[15:05:15] <fyngyrz> I love the mac pros, but I kind of despise Apple
[15:05:16] <Bytram> if you wanted to do something they did not forsee... well, good luck
[15:05:43] * Bytram has a gazillion batch programs and little one-off utilities tht he's been using for decades
[15:05:52] <Bytram> s/tht/that/
[15:05:54] <exec> <Bytram> has a gazillion batch programs and little one-off utilities that he's been using for decades
[15:06:12] <fyngyrz> likewise
[15:06:31] <fyngyrz> I tend to write what I really need
[15:06:56] * Bytram is dreaming of getting a new rig where I can run linux native -- budget limitations -- anw now spectre/meltdown and these new ryzen issues... ugh
[15:07:10] <Bytram> s/nw/nd/
[15:07:12] <exec> <Bytram> is dreaming of getting a new rig where I can run linux native -- budget limitations -- and now spectre/meltdown and these new ryzen issues... ugh
[15:08:05] <Bytram> I've got a 1920x1200 monitor at home, and even that is starting to feel small and cluttered
[15:08:21] <fyngyrz> That's what I use here
[15:08:23] * Bytram would love to have a 4k display
[15:08:43] <Bytram> prolly at least 30", I'm guessing
[15:08:44] <fyngyrz> well, they're dropping in price very fast
[15:08:55] * Bytram HAS noticed... keeps drooling
[15:08:57] <fyngyrz> I have a 60" one as the 2nd monitor in the theater
[15:09:05] <fyngyrz> it's really very nice
[15:09:16] <fyngyrz> was about $800 IIRC
[15:09:20] * Bytram gets bucket to capture drool
[15:09:24] <fyngyrz> lol
[15:09:25] <fyngyrz> yeah
[15:09:41] <Bytram> which reminds me... brb
[15:12:27] * Bytram is taking a quick look at craigslist
[15:16:42] <fyngyrz> I guess I should ask - is it appropriate to fill this channel with social blather? As in, non-editorial stuff?
[15:17:04] <Bytram> ooops
[15:17:38] <Bytram> should prolly have taken it to a pm or #Soylent... OTOH, it happens, so don't worry too much about it
[15:17:59] <Bytram> we are, by far, not the first nor, I suspect, the last. =)
[15:18:15] <fyngyrz> k
[15:18:38] <fyngyrz> well, let's mosey on over ther, then, shall we?
[15:18:42] <Bytram> k
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[15:36:54] <mrpg> I'm gonna do YouTube Did Not Inform Wikipedia of Plan to Debunk Conspiracies
[15:36:59] <mrpg> "YouTube Did Not Inform Wikipedia of Plan to Debunk Conspiracies" - ready
[15:37:19] <mrpg> oh woe is me , nobody informed us :-( if you dont want it there take it down.
[15:37:23] <mrpg> put a firewall on it.
[15:37:50] * chromas puts a bird on it
[15:37:55] <mrpg> But it's true, it's going to attract bad edits
[15:38:26] <mrpg> YOU choose to work for free! who does that?!?!?! Do I?
[15:38:57] <chromas> You get paid in experience and exposure :D :D
[15:39:04] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[15:39:05] <upstart> ^ 03Space radiation more hazardous: Implication sfor astronauts and satellites -- ScienceDaily
[15:39:07] <exec> └─ 13Space radiation more hazardous: Implication sfor astronauts and satellites -- ScienceDaily
[15:39:13] <mrpg> that's good
[15:39:16] * mrpg realizes he does work for free here
[15:39:17] <Bytram> it's not work... if you enjoy it!
[15:39:25] <mrpg> hmmm
[15:39:48] <chromas> Excellen ttitle there
[15:40:10] <Bytram> "Destiny's children are those whose work and pleasure are one." -- Winston Curchill
[15:40:20] <mrpg> I'll do " High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks"
[15:40:22] <chromas> Do you [sic] the title?
[15:40:55] <Bytram> lol
[15:41:05] <Bytram> back in a while -- food
[15:41:25] <chromas> from the common core dept?
[15:41:36] <mrpg> hehe
[15:41:54] <mrpg> Trump wanted to stop using it, what happened to that?
[15:43:07] <chromas> Not sure. I remember people complaining that Devos wanted to scale back Title 9 or something though.
[15:43:21] <mrpg> #g integral symbol unicode
[15:43:22] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The integral symbol: ∫ (Unicode), ∫ {\\displaystyle \\displaystyle \\int } \\displaystyle \\int (LaTeX). is used to denote integrals and antiderivatives in mathematics. Contents. [hide]. 1 History; 2 Typography in Unicode and LaTeX. 2.1 Fundamental symbol; 2.2 Extensions of the symbol. 3 Typography in other languages; 4 See also ..."
[15:43:22] <upstart> ^ 03Integral symbol - Wikipedia
[15:43:46] <chromas> ∫
[15:44:12] <chromas> Also &#8747;
[15:44:58] <mrpg> thanks
[15:46:25] <mrpg> Ok I was going to go with something simple for the dept line like 2+2=5 but no.
[15:46:27] <mrpg> ∫ √(1+[f(x)']²)dx
[15:46:42] <mrpg> The formula to find the lenght of a curve.
[15:47:04] <mrpg> Yes, I'm studying math all over again, high school and calculus.
[15:52:35] <chromas> You probably want a no-break space in there so your space doesn't convert to a hyphen
[15:52:48] <mrpg> #g what's calcoolus
[15:52:49] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com - "Nov 6, 2007 ... The best line in the movie."
[15:52:50] <upstart> ^ 03Stand and Deliver - What's calculus? - YouTube
[15:54:11] <Bytram> chromas: if you do use &nbsp; in there, and someone goes in to 2nd/3rd/etc the story, be careful it does not convert back to a normal space and then to a minus, again
[15:54:40] <Bytram> IOW, add an editor's note with the text of the dept line so it can be pasted back in as needed
[15:54:57] <chromas> Do entities work in that field?
[15:55:10] <mrpg> high numbers of adults - ready
[15:55:14] <chromas> You might need to copy/paste the character
[15:55:28] <Bytram> named char ents, numeric char ents (decimal & hex), and literals, too.. IIRC
[15:55:39] <Bytram> try it on dev!
[15:55:59] <Bytram> dishes done... NOW time to make lunch
[15:56:04] * Bytram is away again
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[18:08:51] <mrpg> Hi, I'll do the iheartmedia sub.
[18:21:22] <mrpg> ready - https://soylentnews.org
[18:21:23] <upstart> ^ 03Error
[18:21:25] <exec> └─ 13Error
[18:21:45] <mrpg> I took out the blockquote, the text is not an exact quote.
[18:34:45] <mrpg> I don't know why some people hate virtualbox, I've used it for years and no problem.
[18:35:05] <mrpg> I should try something else, like qemu or something, just out of curiosity.
[18:35:25] <mrpg> But easy, click and click I dont have time to be linux-y.
[18:36:12] <mrpg> Well, I like ubuntu budgie 18.04 beta, I'm going to install 17.10 to replace xubuntu.
[18:37:25] <mrpg> bye.
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[23:38:29] <Bytram> ~submit http://www.zdnet.com
[23:38:32] <exec> └─ 13Several privacy-busting bugs found in popular VPN services | ZDNet
[23:39:02] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[23:40:34] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[23:40:35] <upstart> ^ 03Spotify plans to go public in April - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[23:40:36] <exec> └─ 13Spotify plans to go public in April - CNET
[23:41:00] <Bytram> #submit https://www.cnet.com
[23:41:01] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[23:41:02] <exec> └─ 13Spotify plans to go public in April - CNET
[23:41:26] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[23:41:30] <Bytram> #submit https://www.telegraph.co.uk
[23:41:31] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[23:41:33] <exec> └─ 13DNA tests can predict intelligence, scientists show for first time 
[23:41:47] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[23:41:56] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[23:41:57] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[23:42:20] <Bytram> #submit https://phys.org
[23:42:20] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[23:42:22] <exec> └─ 13The truth behind St. Patrick's Day: Celebrations did not originate in Boston
[23:42:45] <Bytram> ~submit https://phys.org
[23:42:48] <exec> └─ 13The truth behind St. Patrick's Day: Celebrations did not originate in Boston
[23:43:19] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
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[23:44:31] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[23:44:32] <upstart> ^ 03Mulled EU copyright shakeup will turn us into robo-censors – GitHub • The Register ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:44:33] <exec> └─ 13Mulled EU copyright shakeup will turn us into robo-censors – GitHub • The Register
[23:44:48] <Bytram> #submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[23:44:49] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[23:44:50] <exec> └─ 13Mulled EU copyright shakeup will turn us into robo-censors – GitHub • The Register
[23:45:14] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[23:45:15] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions