#editorial | Logs for 2017-06-16
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[01:26:30] <Bytram> nick: !!
[01:26:38] <Bytram> howz thingz?
[01:27:12] <nick> things are alright thanks
[01:27:17] <nick> how are you good sir
[01:28:08] <Bytram> okay, thanks. Things have cooled off a bit, outside, but it is still 80+ in my apartment
[01:28:13] <Bytram> ~arthur https://arstechnica.com
[01:28:17] <exec> 1116 stories loaded
[01:28:17] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Advanced CIA firmware has been infecting Wi-Fi routers for years"
[01:28:48] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[01:28:55] <exec> 1116 stories loaded
[01:28:57] <Bytram> yay!
[01:30:07] * Bytram notes we are running a bit low on submissions... may be time to run a meta story -- summertime in the northern hemisphere when fewer people are at work, less science gets published, and folks are distracted from submitting stories.
[01:33:46] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:33:51] <exec> 1116 stories loaded
[01:33:52] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Ammonia on-demand? Alternative production method for a sustainable future"
[01:34:21] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[01:34:28] <exec> 1115 stories loaded
[01:34:47] <Bytram> note: always scroll down to the part where it says something like "_materials_ provided by _organization_" and use the source of the _materials_ link in any story we use.
[01:35:23] <Bytram> oftentimes, SD just does a copy/paste from that source... only rarely has it been the case where that link is missing.
[01:45:25] <Bytram> nick: just finished reading the Ivanka Trump story...
[01:45:26] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[01:45:27] <upstart> ^ 03Women Who Work for Ivanka Trump: SoylentNews Submission
[01:45:44] <Bytram> as well as the entirety of the linked story in TheGuardian:
[01:45:45] <Bytram> https://www.theguardian.com
[01:45:46] <upstart> ^ 03Revealed: reality of life working in an Ivanka Trump clothing factory | US news | The Guardian
[01:46:21] <Bytram> I, too, am torn about running the story, but wonder how mch of that is just being a bit gushy after the last politics story I ran?
[01:46:37] <Bytram> s/gushy/gunshy/
[01:46:38] <exec> <Bytram> I, too, am torn about running the story, but wonder how mch of that is just being a bit gunshy after the last politics story I ran?
[01:55:05] <Bytram> can't seem to pull it off atm. gonna have to give it a pass.
[02:01:15] <Bytram> ~arthur http://www.bbc.co.uk
[02:01:19] <exec> 1115 stories loaded
[02:01:19] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Apple's Tim Cook confirms self-driving car plans"
[02:01:50] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[02:01:57] <exec> 1114 stories loaded
[02:02:36] <Bytram> ~arthur https://qz.com
[02:02:39] <exec> it has been only 48 seconds since the last submission - please wait
[02:03:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, she's not a politician. also, i'd like to think we have more class than to go after the families of politicians. i mean ya didn't see me dogging (not that kind of dogging, brits) the first lady while obama was in office.
[02:04:17] <Bytram> nod nod.
[02:04:26] <Bytram> ultimately it came down to:
[02:04:38] <Bytram> garment work sucks and is paid poorly, yes.
[02:04:53] <Bytram> Ivanka Trump has a brand with her name on it that claims it is for women who work
[02:05:04] <Bytram> but, if it weren't HER name, how miuch of a story would it be?
[02:05:11] <Bytram> not much was my conclusion...
[02:05:20] <Bytram> at least in comparison to the other stories we run on this site...
[02:05:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a sad, sad commentary on the national media when an outfit i contribute to has more class than they do.
[02:05:29] <Bytram> just seemed to sensationalistic
[02:05:40] <Bytram> s/to/too/
[02:05:42] <exec> <Bytram> just seemed too sensationalistic
[02:05:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, basically
[02:06:27] <Bytram> it's amazing how many words I've used that HexChat and Pale Moon do not know that they are, indeed, words. :/
[02:07:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta right click and tell yer dictionary who's boss
[02:07:33] <Bytram> yeah, I have been doing that for *years* and it still seems no smarter than I was when I was in, like, 9th grade!
[02:07:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're americans. part of the settling of the war of 1812 was that we're allowed to abuse the language however we see fit.
[02:07:51] <Bytram> then again, I used to read pages in the dictionary when I was bored.
[02:08:05] <Bytram> know weir knot!
[02:08:10] <Bytram> =)
[02:08:36] <Bytram> know weir knot aloud two due dat!
[02:08:54] * TheMightyBuzzard waits impatiently for the new steve earle album to come out tomorrow
[02:08:57] * Bytram acknowledges it was quite painful to write that.
[02:09:05] <Bytram> hey!
[02:09:08] <Bytram> I wonder
[02:09:19] <Bytram> ever read 'ladel rat rotten hut' ??
[02:09:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah
[02:09:41] <Bytram> it's a hoot!
[02:10:04] <Bytram> but, it would help if I could spell it right. 'Ladle Rat Rotten Hut' ... lemme seeif I can find a link
[02:10:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> tmiahm is about the extent i wanna go wacky with my vocabulary
[02:10:59] <Bytram> tmiahm ?? what is THAT?
[02:11:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> the moon is a harsh mistress
[02:11:11] <Bytram> here ya go: https://www.exploratorium.edu
[02:11:23] <Bytram> Ah!! FANTASTIC BOOK!
[02:11:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, it is and i ain't read it in over a year.
[02:12:09] <Bytram> the broken russian/english grammar slowed me down to about half my usual reading speed when I first read it.
[02:12:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me whilst i run snag it out the library.
[02:12:32] <Bytram> np
[02:12:57] * Bytram re-read it about a year ago. still a real page-turner.
[02:13:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> really it just keeps getting better and better the more i read it
[02:13:50] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:13:58] <Bytram> what was the name of the computer repair guy?
[02:14:05] <Bytram> ISTR the computer was named 'Mike'
[02:14:42] <Bytram> maybe it was just where I was at as a late teen, but this exchange has stuck with me ever since:
[02:14:47] <Bytram> Not funny?
[02:14:51] <Bytram> Very not funny.
[02:14:59] <Bytram> still cracks me up.
[02:15:23] <Bytram> ISTR that was the repair guy telling 'Mike' that writing a check for a gazillion dollars was not such a good idea.
[02:17:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Manuel, Man for short
[02:18:21] <Bytram> Ah, yes! thanks!
[02:18:28] <Bytram> mannie, too, I think?
[02:19:36] <Bytram> #submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:19:37] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:20:03] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:20:20] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, Bytram ... while i am still torn on the story i'd just like to remind that while she is not a 'politician', she does have an official role in the white house
[02:20:44] <Bytram> other than daughter of the POTUS?
[02:20:54] * TheMightyBuzzard snickers
[02:21:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, thas funny, that is.
[02:21:26] <Bytram> #submit https://www.acs.org
[02:21:27] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:21:53] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:21:53] <nick> she's officially his assistant and last time i heard had top secret security clearance, by all reports a role was created specifically for her to participate in the administration
[02:22:11] <Bytram> I have no interest in the trappings of society, i do not watch TV, and only rarely read the paper.
[02:22:21] <Bytram> nick: ahhh, did not know that. thanks!
[02:23:20] <nick> how much substance there is to it i don't know... and it would obviously never be confirmed... but to promote her profile, it was reported she was the one who convinced Trump to do the Syria airstrikes, to save the children.
[02:23:26] <Bytram> okay, I ws able to sub (via arthur) a few stories, but am running out of energy, and have an earlier than normal shift tomorrow...
[02:23:34] <Bytram> think I am gonna call it a night.
[02:24:08] * nick hat tip
[02:25:04] <Bytram> So, if Ivanka thinks it is okay to treat people in her factories that way, how does she feel about how she should treat people in the usa?
[02:25:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, was unaware of that. shows ya how much of a hobby of mine it's not to follow every little bit of nepotism in politics. i'd never get any work done.
[02:25:16] <nick> first lady is an informal role that you end up in through circumstance, having a job created for you to be in the executive office is a bit different.
[02:25:31] <Bytram> like I *just* said, that puts quite another twist on things.
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[02:26:07] <nick> http://www.telegraph.co.uk
[02:26:08] <upstart> ^ 03Ivanka Trump given West Wing office and security clearance in expanded White House role
[02:26:42] <Bytram> the article in The Guardian seems to be quite well written -- I leaning towards it being worth running after all.
[02:26:52] <Bytram> eyes won't stay open... gots to sleep.
[02:26:55] <Bytram> laters
[02:27:09] * Bytram clicks link for later reading
[02:29:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, i expect she neither new nor cared how the factories she hired to build her shat were run. these sorts of stories always strike me as blame shifting onto the celebrity instead of the douchebags calling the shots in the factories.
[02:30:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, even the apple ones
[02:30:26] <nick> http://www.nydailynews.com
[02:30:26] <upstart> ^ 03Eric Trump says 'heartbroken' Ivanka influenced Syrian airstrike - NY Daily News
[02:30:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> run with it if yall like though. i'm good at letting stuff i'm uninterested in slide on by in the rss feed.
[02:31:21] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, i think there's enough blame to go around
[02:31:57] <nick> people know what they're getting into when they manufacture in developing countries with huge corruption and poverty
[02:32:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> exactly and everyone still does it.
[02:33:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't strike me as lacking class since you informed me about her job, it just don't interest me much.
[02:35:06] <nick> sure, in my opinion it's just a 'for the record' kind of thing
[02:36:22] <nick> not something i have a huge amount to say on, but it's still worth noting, especially when so much of the political side of it is promoting local manufacturing and traditional industry, when they have not lived by their own words
[02:36:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod.
[02:37:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, me britly bud, time for sleeps here.
[02:37:30] * nick hat tip
[02:37:42] <nick> i reserve the right to annoy loyalists and dissidents in equal measure
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[12:06:25] <takyon> aren't users going to have a fit about an image in the summary? https://soylentnews.org
[12:06:27] <upstart> ^ 03Error
[12:33:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, probably but it does em good to riot once in a while.
[12:35:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus it's actually a useful image, which was the standard we decided on for using one way back when, wasn't it?
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[19:32:33] <CoolHand> 30 comments and I don't see any about the image yet... who'd a thunk it?
[19:37:43] <nick> im surprised, it's quite jarring
[19:52:40] <chromas> Maybe they don't see it
[19:52:46] <chromas> I get a broken image placeholder
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[21:46:58] <mrpg> hi, this milk submission is soo funny. chocolate milk comes from brown cows.
[21:47:10] <mrpg> im watching a movie in youtube https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:47:10] <upstart> ^ 03Timestalkers - Wikipedia
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[21:57:09] -!- mode/#editorial [+v mrpg] by Hephaestus
[22:13:37] <mrpg> hehe, in the movie in the year 2586 there's a CRT hehehe.
[22:16:37] * Deucalion is sat at my desk at home.... I see 3 CRTs without even craning my neck.... sure, none are actually in regular use - but one in particular has the ~best~ display I have ever used - shame it is just so damn unwieldy size wise. May CRTs live forever or something :.
[22:17:56] <Bytram> have a connection full of hiccups today... not sure how effective I'm gonna be. :(
[22:22:43] <mrpg> The CRTs have one good thing, they look the same from every angle.
[22:23:22] <mrpg> bytram welcome do your best.
[22:23:29] <mrpg> mrpg
[22:23:32] <mrpg> mrpg:
[22:24:28] <Deucalion> That and you may get a tan if you sit behind one long enough :)
[22:24:42] <Bytram> if I could do better than my best, then that would not have been my best, would it?
[22:24:45] <Deucalion> hi Bytram o/
[22:24:50] <Bytram> hiya!
[22:25:15] <Bytram> Well, I certainly did NOT get a tan from sitting in FRONT of a CRT!
[22:25:27] <mrpg> bad -good -best -bestest => 10% -50 % -100% -110%
[22:25:48] <Bytram> or even sitting in front of 3 of 'em -- each being 24" 1600x1200 20 kilo viewsonic behemoths
[22:25:53] <Bytram> LOL
[22:27:03] <Deucalion> I believe most of the "harmful" emissions projected out the back - but that's probably in the realms of cellphones causing brain cancer with their non-ionising "radiation" type FOO
[22:27:29] <Bytram> BAR none?
[22:29:48] <Deucalion> You here all week? And must we not forget to tip the waitress? :P
[22:32:29] <Bytram> oh, wait. misplaced the space...
[22:32:31] <Bytram> BARN one
[22:32:45] <Bytram> hmm, nope. that' not it, either. ....
[22:33:02] <Bytram> harrrumph.
[22:33:43] <Bytram> as for tipping the waitress, my dad used to tell me of how, as a teen, he used to go cow tipping... is this anything like that?
[22:37:33] <Deucalion> Only in Wisconsin?
[22:38:01] <Deucalion> I have no idea why I said that other than I read something about Wisconsin and cheese
[22:38:25] <Bytram> wisconsin is not the only state which does dairy.
[22:38:48] <Bytram> yep, there are famous for their "cheese heads" when it comes to [US-style] football games.
[22:38:57] <Bytram> s/there/they/
[22:38:58] <exec> <Bytram> yep, they are famous for their "cheese heads" when it comes to [US-style] football games.
[22:41:25] <Bytram> not uncommon to see many fans with proper, wedge of swiss-cheese-foam, "hats"
[22:42:01] <Bytram> 2nding: President Trump Revises U.S. Policy Towards Cuba
[22:43:08] <Bytram> 2nding: Canada to Require Unlocking of All Phones
[22:43:20] <mrpg> Regarding Trump and Cuba: How are they going to see if I pay money in a "state-owned hotel"?
[22:43:58] <mrpg> there's gonna be a blacklist of hotels when I try to use my CC?
[22:44:41] <Bytram> it's not so much a law to *block* you from doing it, but rather a law to punish you if they decide they want to get [back] at you??
[22:45:23] <mrpg> aaah ok
[22:45:28] <Bytram> ^^ is just a guess on my part.
[22:45:52] <Bytram> selective enforcement IS a thing.
[22:45:56] <Bytram> 2nding: Wind Farms are Hardly the Bird Slayers They're Made Out to Be
[22:53:22] <mrpg> wind farms, the gentle giants, reminds me that I saw "colossal" the movie, it was ok.
[23:00:30] * Bytram tries to remember the last movie he saw
[23:00:33] <Bytram> 2nding: Amazon Acquires Whole Foods for $13.7 Billion
[23:01:12] <Bytram> I think it was the star trek flick that came out about a year or so ago.
[23:02:31] <Bytram> 2nding: BAE Systems Sold Cyber-Surveillance Tools to Autocratic Regimes
[23:32:47] <mrpg> I'm making tostones https://en.wikipedia.org
[23:32:48] <upstart> ^ 03Tostones - Wikipedia