#editorial | Logs for 2017-02-28

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[02:47:07] <charon> balls
[02:47:35] <Bytram> charon: base, basket, or space?
[02:48:11] <charon> testicles
[02:49:17] <charon> just had a trying evening. thought it would be a nice relaxing time with the kids and it was nothing of the sort
[02:49:43] <Bytram> kids do not usually fit in the same sentence as relazxing
[02:53:12] <charon> for your edification, the cliche where a kid informs you she has a project due tomorrow which she has known about but not started for two weeks is absolutely correct
[02:54:21] <Bytram> Fnord666: got your message -- much appreciate the offer!
[02:55:02] <Bytram> charon: So, [in]actions have consequences -- the sooner one experiences them, the sooner one learns to get started?
[02:55:31] * Bytram notes he was far from the most punctual starter on projects, either
[02:55:35] <charon> i agree. my ex, on the other hand thinks it's better to badger her almost non-stop
[02:55:57] <Bytram> yeah, that's... ummm. difficult
[02:56:06] <Bytram> poor kid doesn'tknow what to believe
[02:56:29] <charon> well, i think she should do the homework too, but riding her is not going to make it happen
[02:57:58] <Bytram> can't say it is totally ineffective... regular reminders were helpful to me... "action precedes understanding" -- going through several iterations of getting at least something done each day built confidence that it was okay to get sttarted even if I did not know a priori exactly how it would end up -- paralysis of analysis
[02:59:12] <Bytram> another way to put it is "I found it easier to act my way into belief (that I could do it), than to believe my way into action."
[02:59:39] <Bytram> and then you are dealing with kids who have their own ideas and "motivations"
[03:00:21] <Bytram> break time
[03:00:47] <Bytram> actually, having justlooked at the clock, it's more like getting ready for bed, time
[03:00:52] <Bytram> ~gnight charon
[03:00:54] * exec flatulantly $action a fartbox of windows nt $preposition charon
[03:01:00] <charon> ~gnight Bytram
[03:01:01] * exec buttmagically tosses a raid 5 volume of goat porn to Bytram
[04:56:28] <Fnord666> howdy charon
[05:19:11] <Fnord666> ~gnight charon
[05:19:12] * exec unnecessarily shoves a fistful of brown chunks in grey sauce in charon
[11:51:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~eds queue is empty except for one improperly spaced story and two donut display stories.
[11:51:40] <exec> editor ping for TheMightyBuzzard (reason: queue is empty except for one improperly spaced story and two donut display stories.): janrinok zz_janrinok n1 nick martyb Bytram cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away Fnord666 charon GreatOutdoors FatPhil Snow goodie mrpg
[11:54:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll fix the spacing so we at least have a few more hours to get something pushed
[11:56:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, you have six minutes till the last story goes live then 1.5h to get something pushed.
[12:44:37] <Bytram> https://www.schneier.com
[12:44:40] <exec> └─ 13EU Still Concerned about Windows 10 Privacy Settings - Schneier on Security
[13:09:04] * Bytram just pushed out another story so we should be good for a while
[13:09:20] * Bytram looks at the site update story
[13:09:32] * Bytram sees that Takyon just made a placeholder
[13:10:01] * Bytram with links to the two prior stories
[13:12:11] <cmn32480> that was NCommanders request
[13:12:18] <cmn32480> to hol dhim a slot
[13:12:47] <Bytram> got it... well the time for its release is coming up soon, so I'm quickly writing my own novelette
[13:13:25] <Bytram> my memory is fuzzy this early in AM... can you give a quick list of things that got fixed?
[13:13:36] <cmn32480> nope
[13:13:50] <Bytram> ok, thanks.
[13:13:51] <cmn32480> I works a 16 hour day yesterday slept for 6 hours.. and am back
[13:13:52] <Bytram> ;)
[13:14:00] <Bytram> ~gday cmn32480
[13:14:02] * exec dexterously stuffs a screenshot of poofy onion cheese dip into cmn32480
[13:14:10] <cmn32480> I am lucky I remembered to start hexchat this morning
[13:14:15] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[13:14:17] * exec insensitively bitchslaps a 400TB/s DDoS of shell scripts with bytram
[13:14:17] <Bytram> hey... at lesat it is lo-cal
[13:14:47] <cmn32480> but the issue that I am fighting wiht is still unresolved... stupid new firewalls
[13:14:53] * cmn32480 kicks a computer
[13:14:55] <Bytram> np; I'm a might bit sleepy, too... I misread your nick and thought you were PJ there for a moment
[13:15:03] <cmn32480> see?????
[13:17:29] <Bytram> oooh say can you?
[14:00:12] <Bytram> ~eds I just cranked out an 800-word novelette about yesterday's changes. Would someone please review, schedule a time-slot, and set to display? I'm thinking it would be good to have PJ take a look-see to let us know what I left out.
[14:00:13] <exec> editor ping for Bytram (reason: i just cranked out an 800-word novelette about yesterday's changes. would someone please review, schedule a time-slot, and set to display? i'm thinking it would be good to have pj take a look-see to let us know what i left out.): janrinok zz_janrinok n1 nick martyb Bytram cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away Fnord666 charon GreatOutdoors FatPhil Snow goodie mrpg
[14:09:04] <Bytram> ok, really gtg. an scheduled to be at work in 35 minutes!
[14:23:00] <Bytram> paulej72: would you please take a look at today's story on the site upgrade? I'm sure I left something out!
[14:23:06] <Bytram> gtg laters!
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[14:33:53] -!- mode/#editorial [+v NotSanguine] by Hephaestus
[14:35:19] <NotSanguine> Hey all, are we seeing site configuration and/or database issues?
[15:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSanguine, hmm?
[15:13:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i'm aware of, what's wrong?
[15:16:09] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm seeing problems in comment links from yesterday
[15:17:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> how so?
[15:17:46] <NotSanguine> TheMIghtyBuzzard, Clicking on links directly to comments gives a server misconfiguration page
[15:17:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> example?
[15:18:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> like hitting the (#234153) link?
[15:18:46] <NotSanguine> no. maybe, didn't try that clicking on links in messages or on the user info page
[15:18:47] <NotSanguine> https://soylentnews.org
[15:18:47] <NotSanguine> https://soylentnews.org
[15:18:47] <NotSanguine> https://soylentnews.org
[15:18:47] <NotSanguine> https://soylentnews.org
[15:18:53] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | A Scientific Error About the Monarch Butterflies May Have Persisted for More Than 40 Years
[15:18:53] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | A Scientific Error About the Monarch Butterflies May Have Persisted for More Than 40 Years
[15:18:54] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | How to Get Back to the Moon in 4 Years, Permanently
[15:18:58] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | How to Get Back to the Moon in 4 Years, Permanently
[15:20:35] <NotSanguine> TheMIghtyBuzzard, clicking on those links from a message or my info page returns this: OK
[15:20:35] <NotSanguine> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[15:20:35] <NotSanguine> Please contact the server administrator, admin@soylentnews.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
[15:20:35] <NotSanguine> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[15:21:58] <NotSanguine> I can provide you with my IPV4 address if you need it, if/when checking the logs
[15:23:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSanguine, odd, it shows peachy for me. msg me your address if you would so i can grep for the error.
[15:26:24] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, done.
[15:26:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp
[15:26:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> /msg TheMightyBuzzard blah
[15:26:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> or didja do it on site?
[15:27:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotcha
[15:27:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> couple bugs ahead of you so it'll be a few
[15:27:30] <NotSanguine> I did message you on the site too. :)
[15:28:02] <NotSanguine> No worries. I can get around it, I just wanted to make sure folks knew what was up. Hopefully it's not just me.
[15:28:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinking hopefully it was just you. they work fine for me
[15:28:42] <NotSanguine> Or rather, I hope it's something that isn't wasting your time
[15:29:18] <NotSanguine> the strange part, is that it's only links from yesterday.
[15:29:39] <NotSanguine> Stuff on my info page from before that seem fine
[15:33:13] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, I can reliably reproduce this so if you want fresh log entries just let me know
[15:34:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay. be a few yet. one bug down one to go
[15:47:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i may not get to ya today. this is a fun fun bug
[15:50:44] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, I'll be around for a while. As I said, I can work around it, so whenever.
[15:53:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSanguine, looks like you may have a bad cookie. try deleting it and logging back in.
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[15:53:09] <mrpg> hi
[15:53:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrpg, mornin
[15:54:48] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, I've done that several times. will do so again
[15:55:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not seeing any errors that could be related though. lemme check on fluorine instead of hydrogen
[15:56:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, only two errors and neither have anything to do with comments
[15:57:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSanguine, you reading in Flat?
[15:58:32] <NotSanguine> Yes
[15:58:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[15:58:39] <NotSanguine> yes, in flat
[15:58:56] <mrpg> ok is this ready? https://soylentnews.org
[15:58:59] <exec> └─ 13Error
[15:59:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme switch to flat myself and try them links
[15:59:14] <mrpg> tell me what to do I didnt mean to steal it
[15:59:21] <mrpg> sorry me please!
[15:59:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrpg, they decided that story was shit last i heard
[16:00:05] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, I only see the errors from my messages and info pages
[16:00:13] <mrpg> aaah ok
[16:00:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's like the 2nd or 3rd time he's submitted it
[16:00:38] <NotSanguine> and only comments (not story links) from yesterday. before that all is good
[16:00:54] <NotSanguine> Cleared history again and restarted ff. Still seeing the issue
[16:01:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> can you click on the links you pasted in irc and get them to error?
[16:01:23] <NotSanguine> yes
[16:01:27] <NotSanguine> just a moment
[16:02:12] <NotSanguine> done
[16:02:38] <mrpg> BTW I also had the problem with the comment link ( server error), it's ok today
[16:04:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i said the ones you pasted here not 472647
[16:04:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> but that's fine
[16:04:41] <NotSanguine> I didn't.
[16:04:53] <NotSanguine> I clicked on the following (copied from my broweser)
[16:05:03] <NotSanguine> https://soylentnews.org
[16:05:07] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | A Scientific Error About the Monarch Butterflies May Have Persisted for More Than 40 Years
[16:05:12] <NotSanguine> https://soylentnews.org
[16:05:15] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | A Scientific Error About the Monarch Butterflies May Have Persisted for More Than 40 Years
[16:05:23] <NotSanguine> https://soylentnews.org
[16:05:26] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | How to Get Back to the Moon in 4 Years, Permanently
[16:05:31] <NotSanguine> https://soylentnews.org
[16:05:34] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | How to Get Back to the Moon in 4 Years, Permanently
[16:05:43] <NotSanguine> those were the four I clicked on
[16:06:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> what the shit? why are you getting a cid where you should be getting a hash?
[16:08:01] <NotSanguine> That's an excellent question. Let's ask the dev team :)
[16:08:13] <NotSanguine> Sorry, couldn't resist.
[16:10:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSanguine, not finding your error yet. i'll look on fluorine again
[16:10:31] <NotSanguine> If it helps at all, this link works just fine: https://soylentnews.org
[16:10:34] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Eating Large Amounts of Fruits, Vegetables May Benefit Health
[16:13:19] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm going to try to reproduce this from a different browser.
[16:14:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> gracias because it's not showing up in the logs
[16:14:22] <NotSanguine> I just reproduced it in another browser (IE)
[16:14:29] <NotSanguine> Going to try from another host now
[16:17:02] <NotSanguine> Multiple hosts and multiple browsers. Grr.
[16:17:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> and you tried 472690?
[16:18:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSanguine, it's a flat mode error
[16:18:20] <NotSanguine> no. 472651
[16:18:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> switch off flat for now is all i can tell you until i get time to fix it.
[16:18:45] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, I see.
[16:19:17] <NotSanguine> Okay. It's not a huge deal, as I can still get to the articles and then scroll to the comment.
[16:19:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> fix should be in today but dunno what time
[16:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it works in every other mode
[16:19:45] <NotSanguine> No worries. I know you've got a lot on your plate.
[16:20:49] <NotSanguine> I have to boogie soon anyway. I can test later on if you want me to do so.
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[16:23:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> awe shit, i see the problem. i'm amazed it works for anyone
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[16:23:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh wait, it doesn't
[16:24:44] <NotSanguine> Cool deal. Glad you found it before the unwashed masses (or at least the ones using flat mode) started screaming
[16:25:23] <NotSanguine> Then again, there's probably just me using flat mode :)
[16:25:59] <NotSanguine> As you already know, I confirmed that it works in Threaded TNG.
[17:01:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSanguine, found your bug i just can't see what's wrong or how to fix it right yet. going to clear my head and try again in a few.
[17:03:25] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, do what's good for you. If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know. Regardless, I can use threaded TNG for now.
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[19:03:44] <paulej72> OK i added this as a note in the current site update story.
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[20:13:17] <mrpg> typo?
[20:13:19] <mrpg> https://soylentnews.org
[20:13:22] <exec> └─ 13Australian Electrician Allegedly Helps ISIL Develop Missile and Missile Laser Detection Tech - SoylentNews
[20:13:32] <mrpg> Mmm...aybe it is indeed ...
[20:13:50] <mrpg> it's clever funny or a typo.
[20:16:18] <mrpg> mmm...maybe
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[21:50:23] <takyon> ~eds
[21:50:24] <exec> editor ping for takyon: janrinok zz_janrinok n1 nick martyb Bytram cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away Fnord666 charon GreatOutdoors FatPhil Snow goodie mrpg
[21:50:37] <takyon> be careful not to put an article on February 29th like I just did
[21:50:41] <takyon> tomorrow is March 1
[21:50:51] <takyon> I backspaced to recover the article
[21:51:09] <takyon> whateverrrr
[21:57:52] <cmn32480> ~nelson takyon
[21:57:54] <exec> 03takyon: HA! HA!
[22:44:29] <takyon> I've got a couple of things I can add to the Helio X30 story later
[22:44:31] <takyon> bbl
[23:21:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSanguine, did clicking those links in flat mode used to show you only that comment, only that comment and replies to it, or something else?
[23:22:03] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, if it was a comment with no replies, then just the comment. Otherwise the comment and any replies
[23:22:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn. i was hoping to get off easy.
[23:22:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> direct replies or replies to replies to replies too?
[23:22:56] <NotSanguine> I'm not sure
[23:23:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we'll go with direct replies. flat mode don't need to show threads poorly.
[23:23:40] <NotSanguine> the only affected links are those 2/27 or later, so the population is small
[23:24:39] <NotSanguine> so this is a db issue, then?
[23:27:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it's an i wrote bad code issue
[23:28:13] <NotSanguine> But it only affects comments *after* the update
[23:29:51] <NotSanguine> Or is that just an odd byproduct?
[23:34:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a known thing. stories before the update use entirely different code to render
[23:54:04] <NotSanguine> Gotcha. I get it now.