#editorial | Logs for 2017-02-05

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[00:08:29] <charon_> takyon. are you around?
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[00:16:09] SoyGuest97245 is now known as mrcoolbp
[00:20:46] <nick> mrcoolbp !!
[00:21:14] * mrcoolbp runs
[00:21:50] <nick> you can run but you can't hide
[00:22:24] <mrcoolbp> aye
[00:22:48] <nick> good to see you again though
[00:22:55] <nick> how are you doing?
[00:23:11] <charon_> hiyo mrcoolbp. i'm the newest and most expendable member of the editor team
[00:23:27] <mrcoolbp> lol nice to meet yah charon
[00:23:32] <mrcoolbp> nick: I'm doing okay
[00:23:45] <mrcoolbp> how have you guys been faring?
[00:24:08] <nick> pretty good now we have some new blood to harvest the souls of
[00:24:16] <nick> i mean, extra hands on deck...
[00:24:20] <mrcoolbp> I remember that feeling = )
[00:24:33] <charon_> i'm feeling a bit drained, can i have some water now, nick?
[00:25:56] <nick> not until monday
[00:26:41] <mrcoolbp> ^ good to see nothing has changed
[00:26:51] <nick> mrcoolbp, next they'll think they get water AND food...
[00:26:58] <nick> you get one, once a week.
[00:28:19] <charon_> almost makes me regret volunteering
[00:28:56] <nick> when i started all we had was saltines that were expired
[00:30:15] <charon_> and those were the golden years, yeah?
[00:30:54] * nick refrains from making a joke on the political climate of the day...
[00:31:36] <mrcoolbp> we I started we didnt' even have saltines
[00:31:44] <mrcoolbp> when*
[00:31:56] <mrcoolbp> we didn't even have SN, we had to make it
[00:32:02] <mrcoolbp> uphill bothways in the snow
[00:32:54] <charon_> wow, grandpa!
[00:34:04] <nick> those where the days, were happy to have the suffering... really made you feel alive and appreciate the shoe everyone got to share
[00:34:28] <charon_> luxury!
[00:35:23] <charon_> serious question for a moment: if i write a journal, can i make it NOT show up in the sidebar box?
[00:35:37] <mrcoolbp> hmm no idea
[00:35:43] <mrcoolbp> did you try user prefs?
[00:36:30] <charon_> haven't looked there yet. there are several commenting options too on the journal page. if i had to guess, i'd say turning comments off would do it, but not sure
[00:36:42] <mrcoolbp> don't think so
[00:36:52] <charon_> i'll ask takyon next i see him
[00:36:59] <charon_> i know he has done it
[00:36:59] <nick> charon_, i don't think so
[00:37:46] <nick> a way to get around it is to make your journal, set comments as you want
[00:37:54] <nick> and then make another journal entry after that you do want public
[00:38:05] <nick> as each person only gets one displayed in the side bar
[00:38:22] <mrcoolbp> smart
[00:39:20] <charon_> aha, that's how takyon's earlier one disappeared
[00:40:15] <charon_> i'm really drafting a story, but at work so i want to save it and not have it visible until it's ready
[00:40:53] <mrcoolbp> uncheck the "display" button and it will never go out, put it to go out tomorrow
[00:41:02] <charon_> i hate gray
[00:41:04] <charon_> lol
[00:41:08] <mrcoolbp> = P
[00:41:31] <mrcoolbp> looks fine when it's at the top = )
[00:41:39] <nick> as mrcoolbp says, but just write it as a new story in the queue
[00:41:42] <charon_> you're right. that prolly is the best way though
[00:42:11] <nick> and if you're really lucky you can fuck it up and we can have another DO NOT PUBLISH story end up on the front page
[00:42:16] <nick> been a couple years since that's happened
[00:42:35] <nick> https://soylentnews.org
[00:42:36] <charon_> if only cmn could read... sigh
[00:42:38] <exec> └─ 13Janrinok - FOR TRAINING ONLY - do not release! - SoylentNews
[00:42:48] <nick> janrinok's first story
[00:42:53] <mrcoolbp> oh rofl nick
[00:43:13] <charon_> heheh, he'll never live that down
[00:44:13] <nick> it's good to have those little mistakes archived
[01:06:03] <Fnord666> howdy all!
[01:07:15] <Fnord666> howdy cmn32480 charon_ nick
[01:07:29] <charon_> hiyo Fnord666
[01:07:58] <Fnord666> ouch
[01:08:09] <Fnord666> that did not go as planned
[01:09:14] <nick> Fnord666, meet the myth, the legend that is mrcoolbp
[01:09:49] <Fnord666> howdy mrcoolbp! I've heard the rumors but... you do exist!
[01:10:36] <Fnord666> How is everyone doign this fine SAt eve?
[01:10:49] <Fnord666> s/doign/doing/
[01:10:49] <sedctl> <Fnord666> How is everyone doing this fine SAt eve?
[01:10:51] <exec> <Fnord666> How is everyone doing this fine SAt eve?
[01:10:55] <nick> apparently just about to make a run to get a chocolate shake
[01:11:01] <nick> so i'll be back in a few
[01:11:14] <mrcoolbp> hey sorry I'm here
[01:11:20] <charon_> i am well, planning out the all new SN book club
[01:11:21] <mrcoolbp> How are you Fnord666 ?
[01:11:22] <Fnord666> can't get in a man's way when he's going for ice cream.
[01:11:49] <Fnord666> mrcoolbp - doing well, thanks for asking. Yourself?
[01:11:55] <mrcoolbp> I'm doing okay
[01:11:58] <mrcoolbp> thanks
[01:12:08] <mrcoolbp> gonna try to hang around a bit more
[01:12:16] <Fnord666> very cool
[01:12:22] <mrcoolbp> s'my name
[01:12:53] <Fnord666> :)
[01:13:05] * charon_ tries to wear it out
[01:13:13] <mrcoolbp> thanks for helping out around here, you guys are great
[01:13:54] <Fnord666> It's a great site and I'm happy to be able to help out.
[01:14:03] <mrcoolbp> = )
[01:14:14] <charon_> thank you. it really is mosty enjoyable. i don't get to post much, but editing is usually less time intensive than reading a thread and trying to be witty
[01:14:30] <mrcoolbp> depends on the story
[01:14:43] <mrcoolbp> we've edited some doozys in my day
[01:14:43] <charon_> true
[01:14:57] <charon_> last night i volunteered to take the next NC novel
[01:15:28] <Fnord666> third anniversary of the site state of the union address I believe it is
[01:15:47] <charon_> the state of our union is plasma
[01:15:53] <mrcoolbp> charon do you realize what you've done!?
[01:16:12] <Fnord666> It's beginning to dawn on him...
[01:16:13] <charon_> cmn32480 told me it was a foolish thing
[01:16:22] <charon_> but what does he know?
[01:16:33] <mrcoolbp> I'll just say a prayer for you now...
[01:16:38] <Fnord666> charon_ didn't learn from the last time he volunteered.
[01:16:56] <charon_> <--- sucker
[01:16:57] <mrcoolbp> lol actually they are just long, he has a few weird typos, maybe 1 or 2 a paragraph
[01:17:08] <mrcoolbp> but it's because he literally writes them in like 10 min
[01:17:13] <mrcoolbp> I've seen it in person
[01:17:20] <Fnord666> Could be worse. cmn could be transcribing it for him.
[01:17:37] <charon_> just seeing him in IRC, i can tell he types super fast
[01:17:42] <charon_> lol fnord
[01:17:50] <mrcoolbp> we were at a meeting in meatspace, and he said "hang on I'll start a story". We finished a quick convo and turned around and he wrote one of them
[01:18:21] <Fnord666> When's the convention in Vegas?
[01:18:37] <mrcoolbp> a lot of us are east coast actually
[01:18:40] <charon_> uh... it was last week. weren't you there?
[01:18:54] <Fnord666> maybe
[01:18:58] <Fnord666> you never know
[01:19:08] <Fnord666> east coast-ish myself
[01:19:11] <charon_> i'm boston area myself
[01:19:21] <mrcoolbp> really charon? that's pretty dern close to me
[01:19:22] <Fnord666> Cincinnati area
[01:19:47] <charon_> quit lying fnord, ohio is not near the coast
[01:19:58] <mrcoolbp> oh let him have one
[01:20:02] <charon_> heheh
[01:20:03] <Fnord666> The coast of LAke Erie
[01:20:07] <mrcoolbp> sigh
[01:20:12] <Fnord666> and I said -ish
[01:20:20] <mrcoolbp> he did say that
[01:20:26] <mrcoolbp> I scrolled up and looked
[01:20:30] <charon_> fine, you win on a technicality
[01:20:39] <mrcoolbp> the best kind of win!
[01:20:44] <Fnord666> same time zone anyway. Eastern Standard Tribe.
[01:20:46] <mrcoolbp> we are nerds after all
[01:20:53] <charon_> yeap
[01:21:15] <Fnord666> Don't make me use a Scroll of Banishing Rules Lawyers....
[01:21:36] <charon_> that would be interesting
[01:22:50] <charon_> figures, mrcoolbp. you drop in when almost everyone is sleeping or something
[01:22:55] <mrcoolbp> yeah
[01:22:57] <mrcoolbp> happens
[01:23:12] <Fnord666> It's actually a set of rules that contains a logical paradox and much like what happened to Nomad in the "changeling" episode, all of the rules slawyers self destruct.
[01:23:31] <mrcoolbp> it's okay I'm gonna be more avaiable now, not sure how much I'll actually be able to do but I can at least berate you guys from a distance
[01:23:48] <charon_> yeah, i'm always up for more abuse
[01:23:49] <mrcoolbp> Fnord666: lol
[01:23:57] <mrcoolbp> charon: = P
[01:24:14] <Fnord666> That's what I really like about this place. The quality of the abuse. You can't get abuse like this just anywhere.
[01:24:21] <charon_> right?
[01:26:18] <mrcoolbp> you guys fit right in eh?
[01:26:27] <mrcoolbp> man I've been away too long = (
[01:26:40] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: HI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:26:47] <charon_> hiyo Bytram
[01:26:49] <Fnord666> howdy Bytram
[01:26:59] <Bytram> ~gday charon_
[01:27:01] * exec presumably internalizes an attack helicopter of gold coins in charon_
[01:27:02] <Bytram> ~gday Fnord666
[01:27:04] * exec buttmagically pairs a matrix of words with Fnord666
[01:27:09] <Fnord666> ~gday Bytram
[01:27:10] * exec ironically twerks a buttcrack of jiggling juggs for Bytram
[01:27:18] <mrcoolbp> whatup B-tram
[01:27:26] <Bytram> lol
[01:27:43] <mrcoolbp> miss ya man
[01:27:55] <Bytram> dealing with arough start to 2017, but otherwise doing very well... so good to *see* you!
[01:28:15] <mrcoolbp> sorry Bytram = (
[01:28:29] <mrcoolbp> but it's good to be back
[01:28:44] <Bytram> it is what it is... it's how I deal with it that's up to me.
[01:29:02] <charon_> CBT FTW
[01:29:15] * Bytram is not unfamiliar with CBT
[01:29:29] * Bytram may or may not have had some exposure to DBT, as well
[01:29:33] <Bytram> =)
[01:30:11] <mrcoolbp> THC?
[01:30:19] <Bytram> I was pretty tired and tempted to head straight to bed, but I am so glad I popped online, instead
[01:30:22] <Fnord666> Bytram - any scorch marks?
[01:30:23] <Bytram> never
[01:30:46] <Bytram> scorch marks? no comprende.
[01:31:12] <charon_> sweet, article polls work
[01:31:28] <Fnord666> I misread dialectical as dielectrical.
[01:31:37] <Fnord666> ie shock therapy
[01:31:50] <mrcoolbp> that's ECT
[01:31:58] <mrcoolbp> = P
[01:32:03] <Fnord666> you know, the kind MBAs get in seminars and "executive retreats"
[01:32:06] <Bytram> oh, none of that... which would be known as ECT (Electro-Convulsive Therapy) IIRC
[01:32:23] <Bytram> ninja'd
[01:32:33] <mrcoolbp> = )
[01:32:36] * nick reads backscroll
[01:32:40] <nick> also, Bytram !!
[01:32:49] <Bytram> nick: !!
[01:32:51] <Bytram> ;)
[01:33:06] <Fnord666> so nick is it a $5 shake?
[01:33:30] <charon_> 4 shilling tuppence, innit?
[01:33:32] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: FYI: I still have the same phone # as before, if you ever want to talk.
[01:33:52] <nick> chocolate oreo
[01:33:58] <nick> from BK
[01:34:03] <Bytram> sounds yummy
[01:34:25] <nick> its better than i was expecting, worth having to dig the car out the snow for
[01:34:26] <charon_> hmm, i'll be passing a Five GUs on the way home. a shake sounds great
[01:34:34] <charon_> guys^
[01:34:40] <Fnord666> chocolate_oreo_shake++
[01:34:40] <Bender> karma - chocolate_oreo_shake: 1
[01:34:51] * nick intends to make another visit to the five guys at LGA airport in a couple days
[01:34:59] <nick> some seriously good fries there
[01:35:00] <Bytram> there's one not too far from where I work; great burgers and plenty of fries.
[01:35:03] <Bytram> lol
[01:35:04] <charon_> yep yep
[01:35:13] <Fnord666> and peanuts
[01:35:18] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: thanks man, I'm okay, I just had to right a few things in my life, doing better than before
[01:35:27] <nick> mrcoolbp++
[01:35:27] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 13
[01:35:34] <Bytram> so *very* glad to hear it!
[01:36:06] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: as much as I love this place, life comes first. Glad you gave yours a priority!
[01:36:17] <Bytram> mrcoolbp++
[01:36:17] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 14
[01:36:26] <Bytram> HEY!
[01:36:58] <Bytram> whatever happened to the edict that nobody can have a nick on IRC that starts with the letter 'M' ???
[01:37:21] <mrcoolbp> y'all did one worse, looks like there's a new editor that starts with "mr"
[01:37:33] <Bytram> or was it that mrcoolbp had dibs 'cause of his exceptionally low UID, and the rest of us had to adapt, instead?
[01:37:40] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:37:47] <charon_> that's his RL initials, i think
[01:38:05] <mrcoolbp> my initials may or may not be contained in my nick
[01:38:11] <nick> took me a minute to figure out who that person was
[01:38:19] <Bytram> I recall a discussion, don't recall the conclusion
[01:39:29] <charon_> now i know you, Clarence Ostend Oglethorpe Laramie!
[01:39:42] <Bytram> there WAS a time there was something like 7 or so folk whose nick on IRC started with the letter 'M' -- tab completion would work, for a while, until yet another 'M' person came online and then one would have to use another letter or two.. was 'interesting' to say the least!
[01:39:53] <mrcoolbp> I forget, did someone actually make you change your nick to avoid confuciusisms
[01:39:57] <Bytram> charon_: Hye! That's my name, too!
[01:40:18] <nick> and it's times like this when nick isn't the best name to have
[01:40:28] <Fnord666> nick's nick?
[01:40:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> gets pinged a bit does it?
[01:40:37] <charon_> i like your nick, Fnord666
[01:40:48] <Bytram> not so much 'make me', but was greeted with a 'Hey! you gotta change your nick' -- was explained what the decision was, and why, made sense to me, and hence 'Bytram' came into being
[01:41:14] <Bytram> hmmm, now I'm wondering... biab
[01:42:06] <nick> it's also why i use nick more than n1, to help people accidentally talking to me when they want NC.
[01:42:38] <nick> i also don't like reading the two Nx one after the other
[01:43:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries, he's way down in the cheap seats in here like me.
[01:43:13] <charon_> i get confused with chromas ocasionally
[01:43:33] <Bytram> charon_: yep, I have ,ade that mistake a few times, myself
[01:43:37] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, more an issue in the main channel, when there was activity there
[01:43:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> besides jasassin you mean?
[01:43:59] <charon_> heh
[01:44:01] <nick> lol
[01:44:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> forgot i quieted him this morning
[01:44:33] <mrcoolbp> who dat?
[01:44:51] <nick> he's a character...
[01:45:01] <charon_> a very successful AI bot. or alternately a human who fails the turing test
[01:45:21] <nick> if EF was drunk all the time
[01:45:31] <charon_> and high
[01:45:40] <mrcoolbp> eek
[01:45:45] <mrcoolbp> yah okay I got a picture then
[01:45:56] <mrcoolbp> that dude is one weird guy (EF)
[01:46:03] <mrcoolbp> actually
[01:46:08] <mrcoolbp> it's funny
[01:46:12] <mrcoolbp> one of you might be him
[01:46:16] <nick> the comparison does both a disservice, but you get the picture
[01:46:17] <mrcoolbp> he and I used to talk alot
[01:46:30] <mrcoolbp> one time he told me he would probably join staff under a pseudo
[01:46:39] <mrcoolbp> and he swore he wouln't even tell me
[01:46:40] <mrcoolbp> so yah
[01:46:42] * TheMightyBuzzard eyes charon_
[01:46:56] * Bytram chuckles
[01:46:57] <mrcoolbp> if you're here "Hi EF" you're a weird guy but I always like you
[01:47:25] * Bytram may often disagree with his views, but E-F tends to stand pretty solid to his views
[01:47:41] <nick> his trolling has gone down hill in recent months, in my opinion
[01:47:48] <mrcoolbp> and he's pretty smart for a guy that drinks as much as he
[01:48:03] <mrcoolbp> not when he's drunk obvi
[01:48:11] <charon_> i step away from the keys for one minute...
[01:48:16] <nick> wb EF
[01:48:24] <mrcoolbp> lul
[01:48:30] <charon_> i hate you all
[01:48:39] <mrcoolbp> sorry = (
[01:48:58] <charon_> nah, it's a pretty funny idea, actually
[01:49:01] <Fnord666> sorry charon_ or whatever your name might be
[01:49:31] <mrcoolbp> lol and we have aNOTHER staff with 666 in the name
[01:49:51] * Fnord666 rolls his eyes
[01:49:58] <Fnord666> yes, yes you do.
[01:50:09] <mrcoolbp> obviously we are not a very pious site
[01:50:13] <Fnord666> not exactly original I know
[01:50:23] <charon_> it was cool in the 80s, man
[01:50:29] <nick> hahah
[01:50:38] * Fnord666 ducks just in case of lightning
[01:50:45] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: well, depends on which $diety one is in cahoots with, whether that may or may not be deemed 'pious'
[01:50:59] <mrcoolbp> I s'pose
[01:51:33] <Fnord666> https://youtu.be
[01:51:35] <exec> └─ 13Yeah, well that's just your opinion man. (Big Lebowski) - YouTube
[01:52:02] <Fnord666> for the boatman
[01:52:07] <Bytram> brb - gotta make something to eat.. was a tiring day at work.
[01:52:10] <Bytram> afk
[01:54:25] <charon_> fun movie, haven't seen that in a long while
[01:54:38] <charon_> i think my kids are not quite ready to see it yet
[01:55:36] <Fnord666> probably not
[01:55:59] <nick> its a pretty great movie, i really regret not seeing it sooner
[01:56:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's good, i wouldn't go as far as to say great
[01:56:48] <Fnord666> certainly worth seeing at least once
[01:57:53] <charon_> very diplomatic, TheMightyBuzzard
[02:00:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> welcome to the US, where our idea of diplomacy is a sandwich in one hand and a gun in the other and asking which you'd prefer
[02:01:00] <Fnord666> At least it's not a revolver in one hand and a shotgun in the other...yet
[02:01:01] <nick> i'm not a fan of many movies, but as i have enjoyed it on repeat viewings, it's pretty great to me
[02:01:29] <nick> but i can appreciate it's not a movie everyone will love, and can understand why some wouldn't like it at all
[02:01:51] <Fnord666> kinda like the three stooges
[02:02:29] <charon_> i will never be able to scrub my mind of the image of The Jesus doing something vaguely obscene with his bowling ball and towel
[02:03:05] <Bytram> never really enjoyed the three stooges... some of the predicaments? sure! But how moe kept beating up on larry and curly, nahhh... was way too much like things IRL
[02:04:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you sir are a communist
[02:04:11] <charon_> worky time over. i shall get a shake and see you all in my true form
[02:04:33] -!- charon_ has quit [Quit: i am not ethanol fuelled!]
[02:04:34] <Bytram> charon_: nod nod
[02:04:57] <chromas> His attempts to thow us off are in vain
[02:05:27] <Bytram> charon: s/ow/aw/
[02:05:40] <Bytram> chromas: : s/ow/aw/
[02:05:44] <Bytram> chromas: s/ow/aw/
[02:05:44] <sedctl> <Bytram> <chromas> His attempts to thaw us off are in vain
[02:05:46] <exec> <Bytram> <chromas> His attempts to thaw us off are in vain
[02:05:58] * Bytram must be tireder than he thought
[02:06:02] <Fnord666> lol
[02:07:21] chromas is now known as samorhc
[02:08:02] <Bytram> Fnord666: btw, I noticed a recent story you pushed out seemed a bit long... when I see a story get to 400 or more words, I generally try and split it up and put part of it into the "Extended Copy' area.
[02:08:30] <Bytram> sam orc? sounds like a nasty beast from middle earth
[02:08:31] <Fnord666> good to know.
[02:08:44] <Fnord666> I've never been sure what the break point was before.
[02:08:57] <Bytram> yep, there's a lot of stuff that comes from just doing stuff and learning as we go.
[02:09:08] <Fnord666> Kinda went by what was above the fold, but of course that varies from monitor and browser
[02:09:10] <Bytram> kinda like an apprenticeship
[02:09:59] <Fnord666> yes it is
[02:10:36] <Bytram> with enough time and practice, one can even take a trollish post, and somehow munge it so that it is not obvious that is so... and get a slew of comments... one could even say at that point that one has become a master baiter
[02:10:42] <Bytram> ;)
[02:12:03] <Fnord666> I thought that was the guy who knew all the ways to put a worm on a hook
[02:12:26] <Bytram> nod nod =)
[02:13:21] <Fnord666> and of course the butler at the Bates Motel always called Norman "Master Bates"
[02:13:31] * Bytram chuckles
[02:13:50] <Bytram> in the library with a candlestick?
[02:15:14] <Fnord666> I heard it was a flashlight
[02:15:23] <Fnord666> s/flash/flesh/
[02:15:23] <sedctl> <Fnord666> I heard it was a fleshlight
[02:15:25] <exec> <Fnord666> I heard it was a fleshlight
[02:15:39] <Bytram> https://alexaltea.github.io
[02:15:41] <exec> └─ 13Unicorn.js
[02:16:08] <Bytram> ^^ "CPU emulator in web browser (Arm/Mips/X86/Sparc) "
[02:17:06] * Bytram remembers when one of his computers had a 6502 in it, and a while back someone wrote some code to visually emulate the execution of the 6502 (on die image) in the browser.
[02:20:01] <takyon> yeah charon, I make a lot of journal entries and sometimes I am strategic about how long I wait until posting the next one
[02:21:55] <takyon> TheMightyBuzzard
[02:22:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> wasn't me and you can't prove it
[02:22:30] <takyon> is "Join the SoylentNews Book Club (draft WIP)" linking to homepage because there is no submission?
[02:22:35] <takyon> in the admin/editor sessions box
[02:22:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, what?
[02:22:54] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[02:22:57] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Submissions
[02:22:57] <takyon> look at bottom
[02:23:09] <takyon> link is to homepage, not a sub
[02:23:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea
[02:23:35] <takyon> yeah, it's because it was made from scratch, no sub
[02:23:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly, yeah
[02:23:54] <takyon> panic over
[02:23:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i expect any of those type would be that way.
[02:40:41] <charon> i never thought about that. is it a problem? should i actually do it as a sub instead?
[02:41:09] <takyon> no it don't matter
[02:41:33] <cmn32480> ~gday #editorial
[02:41:33] <takyon> what matters is that we wanted a whatchamacallit
[02:41:35] * exec arrogantly $action a 5¼" floppy dick of breakfast cake $preposition #editorial
[02:41:41] <takyon> we wanted a BOOK CLUB NEXUS
[02:41:41] <cmn32480> I prefer reeses
[02:42:22] <charon> i know, i figure by next month the update will have happened and we will have a nexus to move into
[02:42:25] <cmn32480> takyon - that is in the works
[02:42:29] <charon> hiyo cmn32480
[02:42:46] <cmn32480> charon - don't put that stuff up as a story, even not display
[02:43:15] <charon> what should i do with it?
[02:43:17] <cmn32480> it is a f**%*(#$&^%()_*@$%Ying pain in the ass when trying to post stories to have somethign aht sits in the gotvcerdamnit story queue at the top for months
[02:43:34] <charon> ~blame
[02:43:35] * exec points at Bytram
[02:44:18] <takyon> hahahah do you really hate it that much cmn32480?
[02:44:37] <exec> I can't blame bytram for this.. it is all your fault for not putting it in as a sub
[02:44:47] <exec> #smake charon
[02:44:47] * MrPlow smakes charon upside the head with a 2x4
[02:45:07] <cmn32480> takyon - fucking drives me nuts'
[02:45:08] <charon> i'm going to finish it tonight and set it to display at the proper time. it was to save my progress
[02:45:17] <charon> ya maroon
[02:45:58] <takyon> I guess if you were to set the display time to the past, it would come off the top, and then the ed just has to bookmark it to find it
[02:46:04] <takyon> and then re-up it when desired
[02:46:29] <charon> ar you sure you want to past a story 28 million minutes in the past?
[02:46:52] <takyon> wait a second, did my extension say that :D
[02:46:57] <charon> lol, yes
[02:47:02] <cmn32480> yes! post your story 4000 gerzillion seconds into the past!
[02:47:24] <takyon> don't put a pre-1971 date in there or you might fuck everything up
[02:47:42] <charon> there's one in 1876, but it was not me
[02:47:44] * cmn32480 has no idea wht happens if we do that
[02:48:04] <takyon> I think it rollsover or something
[02:48:17] <takyon> I wonder if we will have a Y2K38 problem
[02:48:56] * cmn32480 shrugs... post it aht far in the future and find out
[02:49:07] <cmn32480> send me over the edge...
[02:49:17] * cmn32480 gets out his straight jacket, just in case
[02:49:22] <charon> how was your hike, cmn32480?
[02:49:55] <cmn32480> it was good
[02:50:00] <cmn32480> cold AF, but good
[02:50:09] <charon> kids made it all the way?
[02:50:13] <cmn32480> we only did about 3 miles, and since my kids were with me, it was slow
[02:50:38] <charon> i recall carrying kids on hikes when they got too tired
[02:50:47] <cmn32480> yes
[02:50:54] <cmn32480> that is why I didn't take the 4 year old
[02:51:02] <charon> wise
[02:51:16] <cmn32480> what I really wanted to do was about a 6 mile loop... hard and fast to see how my ankle handled it
[02:52:12] <cmn32480> I did not get that
[02:52:20] <charon> you could have hopped on the possibly bad foot the whole way
[02:52:23] <cmn32480> I got a 2mph pace, over 3 miles
[02:52:49] <cmn32480> I've done enough regular walking in the last 4 months that I think the wheel is fine
[02:53:07] <cmn32480> but I have to test it on the unevenness of a trail to be certain
[02:55:21] <cmn32480> instead of 6 miles in 90 minutes, I got 3
[02:55:38] <charon> there, my sub is now in hidden in the mists
[02:55:39] <samorhc> "It's just a hop, skip & a jump away"
[02:56:38] * cmn32480 goes digging for it to delete it and screw up your world
[02:57:43] <charon> it's ok, unless you cut off my fingers i can re-create it
[02:57:51] * charon regrets saying that
[02:59:06] * cmn32480 gets out the whetstone again
[03:01:11] samorhc is now known as debug
[03:06:22] <charon> since there's a bunch of folks here, does any one mind, or have any input/suggestions/concerns if i organize a book club with monthly or so threads? possibly confined to a separate nexus when possible
[03:07:48] * Fnord666 gets the pruning shears
[03:07:57] * cmn32480 shaprens the ax
[03:08:22] <charon> silence signifies assent
[03:08:40] <cmn32480> charon - we discussed thos long before you got here
[03:08:57] <charon> and?
[03:09:04] <cmn32480> it was already agreed to, takyon and NotSanguine (who has since gone MIA again due to RL were gonna run it
[03:09:07] <Fnord666> they decided learning how to read was hard
[03:09:28] <cmn32480> it has been waiting (for like 3 years) on the next site update that TMB keeps promising us
[03:09:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[03:09:53] <cmn32480> nothign
[03:09:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, book club
[03:10:05] <charon> really? no one did it because there are no nexxxxiiiuseses?
[03:10:10] <cmn32480> yes.. they are still prattling on about it
[03:10:19] <charon> seems flimsy
[03:11:01] <cmn32480> like a paper hospital gown
[03:12:49] <charon> well, i don't want to tread on anyone elses toes. i had no idea it was in the planning.
[03:13:33] <cmn32480> I'm sure since NS is MIA (rather permanently it seems), takyon woudl lovce to have the help
[03:13:58] * cmn32480 pushes charon adn takyon into a locked room with various weapons...
[03:14:23] <charon> uh... that's not help
[03:14:39] <cmn32480> no... it's not help.. it's combat to the death
[03:14:48] <Fnord666> you're missing a funding opportunity with pay per view!
[03:15:00] <charon> takyon mentioned SirFinkus earlier, maybe he's in on it
[03:15:06] * cmn32480 put Fnord666 in charge of the pay per view
[03:15:12] <cmn32480> prolly
[03:15:19] <Fnord666> the fight to the death?
[03:15:24] <charon> yes
[03:15:27] <SirFinkus> whosawhatnow
[03:15:31] <cmn32480> since SirFinkus don't do much else.. we shoudl toss him into the deathmatch topo
[03:15:45] <SirFinkus> lol, do it
[03:15:51] <charon> SirFinkus: tell me all you know about "book club". and be convincing
[03:16:05] * charon sharpens the razor
[03:16:15] <SirFinkus> I was just thinking we should do a monthly book club
[03:16:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> the first rule of book club is you don't talk about book club
[03:16:32] <SirFinkus> with soylenty books
[03:16:34] * cmn32480 wonders how they will discuss the material
[03:16:42] <charon> in a soylenty way?
[03:16:48] <SirFinkus> of course
[03:16:54] <Fnord666> words probably
[03:17:00] <cmn32480> so we are reading a food substitute packaging label?
[03:17:10] <cmn32480> this ought to last 30 seconds
[03:17:25] <Fnord666> !grab cmn32480
[03:17:26] <Bender> Added quote 57
[03:17:26] <SirFinkus> have you seen the ingredient list for soylent?
[03:17:27] <charon> what exactly is human by-products?
[03:17:38] <cmn32480> poo, mostly
[03:17:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> spoiler tag is in the update btw
[03:17:46] <cmn32480> yep
[03:17:54] <cmn32480> that was one of the things that we needed for the book club
[03:18:02] <Bytram> charon: oh... shit
[03:18:25] <charon> yessss?
[03:18:27] <SirFinkus> nice
[03:18:29] <Fnord666> I believe haggis is involved here somehow
[03:18:44] <charon> haggis is a sheep by product
[03:19:03] <Fnord666> at least at first...
[03:19:05] <cmn32480> your extra fingers will be a human by product.
[03:19:18] <Fnord666> give it a coupla days
[03:19:23] <charon> nope, using them all. no extras here
[03:19:30] * cmn32480 checks to see if he can shave his arm with his knife
[03:19:34] <Fnord666> i hear octal is coming back
[03:19:39] <charon> lol
[03:19:41] <Bytram> ouch!
[03:19:56] <Fnord666> at least I didn't say binary
[03:20:03] <Fnord666> then he would be all thumbs
[03:20:13] <charon> so SirFinkus, is there planning or organization in the works? if so i would like to join
[03:20:14] <cmn32480> HEX FNORD!!! HEX!!!
[03:20:22] <Bytram> well, binary could be interpretted as either thumbs or toes
[03:20:31] <charon> please stop helping, fnord
[03:20:34] <SirFinkus> nothing formal yet, it kind of lost steam if I'm honst
[03:20:37] <Fnord666> so remove the shoes and 4 extra toes?
[03:20:45] <SirFinkus> we made a first selection
[03:20:55] <Fnord666> helping not helping?
[03:20:56] <SirFinkus> plan was once a month, curated by people on the team
[03:20:56] <Bytram> The Moon is a Harsh Mistress?
[03:21:06] <Fnord666> ooooh good choice
[03:21:09] <charon> Make Way, Make Way?
[03:21:13] <SirFinkus> A Canticle for Leobowitz
[03:21:21] <cmn32480> did we get set up w/ an amazon link so people can purchase the book through amazon and we get a cut?
[03:21:21] <Fnord666> charon - very appropriate
[03:21:29] <charon> canticle is good, haven't read that in forever
[03:21:32] <SirFinkus> I suggested that as well
[03:21:37] <SirFinkus> the amazon link I mean
[03:21:57] <SirFinkus> it'd need to be disclosed of course
[03:22:14] <cmn32480> there is a pod cast that I listen to that encourages people to use their link for buying
[03:22:19] <cmn32480> seems like a good diea
[03:22:32] <SirFinkus> they're probably going to get kicked out of the program soon
[03:22:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> dyingtolive volunteered to help with it
[03:22:38] <SirFinkus> they're cracking down on that shit
[03:22:46] <charon> SN sells out, story at 11:37
[03:23:19] <cmn32480> SirFinkus - they have had the link since forever... like 10 years
[03:23:32] <SirFinkus> just recently I mean
[03:23:41] <cmn32480> I think they might still be grandfathered under the "Who the fuck are tehse amazon people?" rules
[03:23:44] <SirFinkus> you can only use the links in very specific ways
[03:24:48] <SirFinkus> one potential pitfall is the summary emails that go out
[03:24:58] <SirFinkus> you aren't allowed to send the links out through email
[03:25:29] <charon> interesting
[03:25:50] <charon> i assume we'd only be have the one maybe 2 threads per month
[03:27:41] <cmn32480> max
[03:27:49] <takyon> mmmmmmmh mhhhhhhhhhh reading
[03:27:54] <cmn32480> but you put the link to the specific book in the sub and roll w/ it
[03:28:37] <charon> also, i found out about story attached polls. so we can have people vote on the next book
[03:28:49] <SirFinkus> "5. You will not engage in any promotional, marketing, or other advertising activities on behalf of us or our affiliates, or in connection with the Amazon Site or the Associates Program, that are not expressly permitted under the Associates Operating Agreement. For example, you will not engage in any promotional, marketing, or other advertising activities in any offline manner
[03:28:49] <SirFinkus> , including by using any of our or our affiliates’ trademarks or logos (including any Amazon Mark), any Content, or any Special Link in connection with an offline promotion or in any other offline manner (e.g., in any printed material, mailing, SMS, MMS, email or attachment to email, or other document, or any oral solicitation)."
[03:29:39] <SirFinkus> "(c) You will promptly remove from your Site and delete or otherwise destroy any Content that is no longer displayed on the Amazon Site or that we notify you is no longer available for your use."
[03:30:02] <takyon> what's going on
[03:30:04] <debug> is email offline?
[03:30:10] <takyon> who says we can't link to amazon
[03:30:50] <takyon> I already have a countermeasure. link to an amazon search instead of product page. or if you need to take a step back... google search
[03:31:07] <SirFinkus> https://affiliate-program.amazon.com
[03:31:09] <exec> └─ 13Amazon.com Associates Central
[03:31:23] <SirFinkus> I'm not saying we can't, just there might be some problems
[03:31:40] <takyon> oh, trying to make an extra buck huh
[03:32:06] <takyon> do we qualify as a charity?
[03:32:15] <charon> doubtful
[03:32:15] <SirFinkus> if the link gets caught up in the sn daily newsletter, that's against the associates terms of service
[03:32:26] <charon> there's a newsletter?
[03:32:35] <takyon> there's also smile.amazon.com I use it to boot EFF some pennies
[03:32:50] <SirFinkus> we could just do that
[03:32:59] <SirFinkus> donate it to the EFF
[03:33:07] <SirFinkus> instead of getting that skrilla
[03:33:35] <charon> i honestly am not so fond of amazon anyway. i'd rather support a local bookstore if we're going to do that
[03:33:37] * debug wondered why some people's urls had smile.
[03:36:03] <Bytram> might wanna check with NCommander on this discussion -- he knows way more about the Soylentnews PBC
[03:38:10] <charon> the revenue seems like a side issue. i just want to have a discussion
[03:38:56] <cmn32480> but if we can make a few extra $$ off it... we ought to
[03:40:19] <SirFinkus> the newsletter would need to be addressed
[03:40:29] <Bytram> "might wanna" ==> "you'd be well-advised to"
[03:40:31] <charon> what newsleatter?
[03:40:40] <Bytram> and... I'm knackered... off to bed for me
[03:40:41] <SirFinkus> sounds like a simple regex somewhere would fix it
[03:40:43] <cmn32480> it is an option in your user prefs.
[03:40:53] <cmn32480> you can get sent an email each day w/ the headlines
[03:41:00] <cmn32480> there are options for a whole buncha stuff
[03:41:06] <charon> i never knew
[03:41:13] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:41:15] * exec emphatically sodomizes a toilet bowl of scripts with cmn32480
[03:41:18] <Bytram> ~gnight charon
[03:41:19] <cmn32480> ~gnight bytram
[03:41:20] <charon> gnight Bytram
[03:41:23] <cmn32480> I'm about to do the same
[03:41:24] * exec inadequately sets an .msi package of meat by charon
[03:41:27] <Bytram> ~gnight SirFinkus
[03:41:32] * exec historically gives birth to your mom's bra, full of caulk for SirFinkus
[03:41:34] <SirFinkus> night
[03:41:47] <Bytram> ~gnight takyon
[03:41:48] * exec arrogantly hucks two fingers of ellipses at takyon
[03:41:54] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:41:55] * exec ceremoniously internalizes a DD cup of chocolate sailors in TheMightyBuzzard
[03:41:57] <Bytram> ~gnight NCommander
[03:41:58] * exec literally launches a bottle of doughnuts toward NCommander
[03:42:10] <Fnord666> ~gnight Bytram
[03:42:11] <charon> gngiht cmn32480
[03:42:12] * exec allegedly ejaculates a tinfoil hat of jargon at Bytram
[03:42:37] <cmn32480> I'm waiting for the latest hardcore history to download
[03:42:49] <Fnord666> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:42:50] * exec whole-heartedly waves a JFS volume of pancakes at cmn32480
[03:43:00] <cmn32480> ~gnight Fnord666
[03:43:02] * exec proverbially impales the last slice of 🕷 on Fnord666
[03:43:04] <cmn32480> sleep well
[03:43:10] <SirFinkus> I'm watching alex jones on joe rogan and hacking up a fucking lung
[03:43:29] <cmn32480> instead of hacking up a lung.. help hack off charon's fingers
[03:43:41] <charon> but but... i like my fingers
[03:44:14] <cmn32480> that makes one of us
[03:44:16] <SirFinkus> it was pretty bad last night, coughing so hard I threw up, probably lung cancer
[03:44:37] <Fnord666> maybe we can let him keep them in a jar after?
[03:44:45] <charon> the cancer?
[03:44:50] <Fnord666> the fingers
[03:44:57] <cmn32480> formaldehyde does preserve thigns well.. even if it does give instacancer
[03:45:35] <charon> didn't i ask you to stop helping?
[03:45:40] <Fnord666> maybe some electrodes so they twitch randomly and wave at him?
[03:45:51] <Fnord666> oh, sorry.
[03:45:57] <Fnord666> got carried away there.
[03:46:09] * charon pokes Fnord666
[03:46:19] * cmn32480 starts owrking on the electrodes
[03:46:32] * cmn32480 hopes they turn out better than his typing
[03:47:46] <Fnord666> time to go watch the season premiere of "The Expanse"
[03:48:07] <charon> the books are good, is the show?
[03:48:19] <Fnord666> so far, yes.
[03:48:31] <charon> cool. enjoy!
[03:48:33] <Fnord666> be interesting to see where the show goes, given the storyline of the books
[03:49:00] <Fnord666> ~gnight all!
[03:49:01] * exec skeptically twerks a pint of maple syrup for all!
[03:49:07] <cmn32480> ~gnight fnord
[03:49:09] * exec defiantly inserts a linked list of drool into fnord
[03:49:11] <charon> ~gnight Fnord666
[03:49:12] * exec readily internalizes a shot of political correctness in Fnord666
[03:49:32] <cmn32480> .me is gonna go catch the season premier of the inside of my eyelids
[03:49:37] <Fnord666> lol at least it wasn't a doubly linked list
[03:49:59] * charon is going to weep in the wreckage of his brilliant idea
[03:50:17] * cmn32480 passes a quart of gasoline adn a zippo
[03:50:28] <cmn32480> ~gnight charon
[03:50:30] * exec cromulently slides a recycle bin of santorum to charon
[03:50:32] <cmn32480> ~gnight takyon
[03:50:34] * exec clumsily scissors a pinch of b-trees for takyon
[03:50:44] <cmn32480> ~gnight johnboy
[03:50:45] * exec emphatically stuffs a uharc archive of bewb into johnboy
[03:51:01] <charon> ~gnight grandma
[03:51:03] * exec allegedly cyberbullies a staff of glass shards at grandma
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[17:20:06] <mrpg> Can you hear me now?
[17:20:38] <mrpg> what happned to the irc and to dev?
[17:20:49] <mrpg> ~blame
[17:20:50] * exec points at Bytram
[17:20:55] <mrpg> hm...
[17:21:16] <mrpg> ok, relax, we all are adults here.
[17:22:19] <mrpg> I can't see youtube either. weird.
[17:22:48] <mrpg> http://venturebeat.com
[17:22:50] <exec> └─ 13Amazon website goes down for 40 minutes, costing the company $5 million | VentureBeat | Cloud | by Dylan Tweney
[17:22:56] <mrpg> OMG
[17:24:29] <mrpg> and to us? I blame anna senpai!
[17:25:41] <mrpg> email works. email if you need my traceroutes or something.
[17:26:51] <mrpg> I blame Windows 10 Cloud. for the love of pete install debian sid and call it a day.
[18:02:33] <cmn32480> mrpg - we had a DNS issue earlier in the day,.. btu all shoudl be well now
[18:15:24] <mrpg> ah, ok, goo dto know.
[18:25:42] <mrpg> DNS tale from 10 years ago: at work I send a newsletter. It takes 30 minutes. One day it began to take 3 hours. I checked the logs, the code, etc.
[18:26:39] <mrpg> Turns out the first DNS was not working, so postfix was timing out 3 seconds for every mail sent. 3*3000 = 3 hours.
[18:27:13] <mrpg> I don't manage the DNS, it took me 1 week to notice that.
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[19:03:27] <janrinok> hi nick
[19:03:43] <nick> hey janrinok
[19:03:48] <nick> how goes
[19:03:59] <janrinok> good, how about you?
[19:04:05] <janrinok> you any better?
[19:04:50] <nick> over the flu, just a lingering cough
[19:05:08] <nick> trying not to stress
[19:05:44] <janrinok> good idea - take it easy. IRC was down this morning and we have had other minor snags. DNS updates didn't go quite as planned
[19:11:37] <mrpg> Any job opening in the server side of SN? just curious _not volunteering_ (for now)
[19:12:33] <janrinok> mrpg, you mean on the sys-admin team?
[19:13:00] <mrpg> yes, anything linux related.
[19:14:05] <janrinok> best speak to either paulej72 or TheMightyBuzzard I guess - they are always looking for help but I don't know enough to advise you
[19:14:22] <mrpg> thank you, I'll email TMB.
[19:14:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[19:15:08] <janrinok> damn, do not poke the wild animals ....
[19:15:22] <mrpg> wait, i'm just writing the email, not fair.
[19:15:31] <mrpg> TheMightyBuzzard: Any job opening in the server side of SN? just curious _not volunteering_ (for now)
[19:16:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> need to talk to paulej72. i'm only an emergency reserve admin.
[19:16:30] <mrpg> his email please?
[19:17:08] <janrinok> name @ soylentnews dot org works for most of us
[19:17:26] <mrpg> ok
[19:19:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno, i only have his personal address
[19:20:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, nick @ soylentnews.org
[19:20:43] <mrpg> that's his email in his profile yes I looked it up
[19:20:50] * TheMightyBuzzard apologizes to nick for the ping
[19:21:35] * TheMightyBuzzard goes back to his attempt at a nap
[19:25:22] <mrpg> Dear mrpg, SN is pleased to offer you the position of (X) We are very excited about the potential you and your experience bring to the table.
[19:26:05] <mrpg> This means you are free to leave the company at any time and we have the right to change your job position, compensation or terminate you at any time. :-(
[19:26:30] <mrpg> There will be a variety of additional projects that will need your attention as well.
[19:27:13] <mrpg> Your initial compensation includes a weekly salary of (WEEKLY SALARY AMOUNT)
[19:27:48] <mrpg> ok.
[19:30:04] <mrpg> My email to paulej72 says "job opening" :-) he must be thinking "job what? money? salary? whos this?"
[19:30:34] <nick> lol
[19:32:10] * nick is watching Kitten Bowl 4
[19:33:02] <janrinok> I haven't a clue what that is
[19:33:58] <mrpg> http://www.hallmarkchannel.com
[19:33:59] <exec> └─ 13Kitten Bowl - See the Cutest Kittens on TV! | Hallmark Channel
[19:34:13] <janrinok> lol
[19:41:59] <nick> it's good stuff
[19:43:08] <janrinok> I've got to go - hope your recovery continues, Nick.
[19:43:15] <janrinok> ~gnight mrpg
[19:43:16] * exec metrosexually scissors a photograph of white privilege for mrpg
[19:43:18] <nick> take care janrinok
[19:43:20] <janrinok> ~gnight nick
[19:43:21] * exec $adverb coalesces a raid 6 volume of lima beans with nick
[19:43:25] <nick> hugs for S
[19:43:33] <janrinok> thx - I will pass them on
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[19:47:01] <mrpg> bye good night janrinok
[20:15:26] <mrpg> bye good night fellow employees.
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[22:15:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, i can't watch kittenbowl
[22:15:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> for some reason the sports streaming sites aren't covering it
[22:16:36] <chromas> There's also a puppybowl. Probably same streaming deficiency though
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