#editorial | Logs for 2017-01-23
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[00:00:33] <nick> banks buy government bonds, government buys bank bonds, then those bonds get sold/traded on around a few other places... and then we have liquidity and stock market growth
[00:00:51] <nick> i mean people are still hungry and homeless, but we have improving metrics
[00:01:13] <Bytram> imperial_system++
[00:01:13] <Bender> karma - imperial_system: 1
[00:01:18] <Bytram> ;)
[00:02:42] * charon_ deploys the Death Star
[00:04:03] <Bytram> #fite Hephaestus
[00:04:03] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:04:11] <nick> on economic things: https://soylentnews.org
[00:04:14] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | America's Best Days May Be Behind It
[00:04:29] <MrPlow> #fite Hephaestus falls broken at Bytram's feet.
[00:04:53] <Bytram> #join #exec
[00:05:00] <charon_> oh no... the pizza place is not answering the phone
[00:05:13] <charon_> how will i get a pizza?
[00:05:37] <Bytram> oh, maybe drive over and order it in person?
[00:06:08] <charon_> crazy talk
[00:06:43] <Bytram> Iknow! call up someone else and have them drive over and place the order for you!
[00:06:51] <charon_> good thing i have a book to read
[00:07:20] <charon_> now we're talking. sounds like you just volunteered
[00:07:41] <Bytram> you should have it in about, ohhhh, 6 hours and 4 days
[00:08:09] * charon_ decides to call someone more local
[00:08:44] * Bytram thinks that might be an excellent idea... or maybe they have a web site? or maybe try a different pizza place?
[00:09:06] <Bytram> speaking of which, I've not had dinner, either... time to fix some grub. biab
[00:09:08] <Bytram> adk
[00:09:10] <charon_> they answered this time. pizza here i come
[00:09:17] <Bytram> hth!
[00:09:31] <charon_> leaving work, bbl
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[00:10:34] * Bytram assumes nobody would be watching the patriots vs steelers and might want to order a pizza at this time, right?
[00:54:56] <charon> who are these "patriots" you speak of?
[01:15:53] <nick> it sounds like there's some kind of nationalist militia taking on some thieves who can't spell too good.
[01:17:10] <charon> lol
[01:17:54] <Fnord666> howdy all!
[01:17:56] <charon> you suck Fnord666
[01:18:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> I shall avenge you!
[01:18:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Fnord666
[01:18:18] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[01:18:38] <MrPlow> #fite Fnord666 falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[01:18:47] <charon> my hero
[01:18:51] <Fnord666> lol
[01:19:08] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles and goes back to eating his slightly charred dinner
[01:19:13] <charon> how are ya, fnord?
[01:19:19] <Fnord666> first time I've beaten you in a dozen tries
[01:20:01] <Fnord666> Might be coming down with a sinus infection but otherwise good. Yourself?
[01:20:32] <charon> happy to not be suffering a sinus infection. otherwise same old same old
[01:23:12] <Fnord666> That's good at least.
[01:23:53] <charon> pro tip: do not pick your nose after touching a jalapeño pepper
[01:25:04] <nick> http://www.metalgearsolid.net
[01:25:07] <exec> └─ 13The Patriots' Legacy - "Who are the Patriots?" - Page 1 - MGS:TUS"
[01:25:39] <charon> what
[01:26:05] <Fnord666> charon that's very good to know. Also wash your hands BEFORE using the bathroom
[01:26:31] * nick writes all this useful information down
[01:28:14] <Fnord666> I just went to wearing food prep gloves when working with any serious peppers
[01:28:26] <charon> probably a good idea
[01:29:36] <Fnord666> Friend of mine has been growing Carolina Reapers the past couple of years. Not for the faint of heart!
[01:29:59] <charon> man, i wouldn't even want to be in the same room with one of those
[01:30:12] <nick> mmmm i want
[01:31:23] <nick> not a lot, but i do enjoy an evil pepper
[01:31:55] <charon> i don't mind spiciness, but over a certain threshhold it's just pain and chemical burns
[01:33:11] <nick> i'm always looking for a way to push the boundary
[01:33:21] <nick> it's surprising how far it can go with the pain but also tasty
[01:34:42] <Fnord666> tasty is the key for me. I don't mess with extract based sauces. I want to be able to taste the pepper also.
[01:35:48] <charon> and i want to not spend the evening drinking milk and pepto bismol
[01:36:22] <Fnord666> There is that.
[01:38:32] <Fnord666> It's definitely not for everyone
[01:39:42] <Fnord666> This one especially.
[01:40:12] <Fnord666> Ive seen more than one person puke after eating one of these.
[01:40:46] <charon> your salesmanship could use some work
[01:41:02] <Fnord666> yeah they don't let me talk to customers....
[01:41:05] <charon> lol
[01:41:27] <Fnord666> nah. If you still eat it after I tell you not to, it's all on you.
[01:41:39] <nick> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com
[01:41:41] <exec> └─ 13Meet the World's Spiciest Tortilla Chip (So Hot, It's Sold One Per Package)
[01:41:57] <Fnord666> and I wont let anyone I don't know to be a hothead anywhere near them.
[01:43:16] <Fnord666> to be fair there's a lot of marketing gimmicks around this stuff too. You used to have to sign a waiver to buy one of the sauces that ismiddle of the pack now.
[01:43:43] <charon> '“The team at Paqui brought out gas masks when handling the peppers,” said Currie.'
[01:45:11] <charon> that reminds me of people who eat the sugar free gummi bears knowing what it's going to do to them
[01:45:29] <nick> i saw a video of someone doing the 'one chip challenge', it seemed serious business
[01:45:49] <nick> one chip, many litres of milk and other things
[01:47:24] <Fnord666> Yes, you don't want this dust in your lungs. People who work with the concentrated pepper wear environmental type suits around the equipment.
[01:47:41] <Fnord666> damn, can't find the chip in their online store.
[01:47:50] <nick> https://youtu.be
[01:47:51] <charon> sold out!
[01:47:53] <exec> └─ 13Brad Tries The One Chip Challenge - YouTube
[01:48:39] <charon> the man is turning red
[01:49:26] <charon> man, brad looks like he's about to die
[01:49:40] <Fnord666> rats
[01:50:05] <nick> he went in way too keen with eating the whole thing out the packet
[01:50:06] <Fnord666> beyond a certain point of heat I always get the hiccups for some reason
[01:51:06] <nick> i've never had that
[01:51:14] <nick> just a lot of sweating
[01:51:23] <nick> and the occasional muffled scream
[01:51:27] <charon> lol
[01:57:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ass pansies. I eat a pile of the hottest hotwings they sell around here at least once a week just so my butthole don't get complacent on me.
[01:58:13] <charon> better you than me
[01:58:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> having to eat non-spicy chili when the roomie's kids are here is more painful.
[01:59:45] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, you played FO4, right?
[01:59:53] <charon> and i suppose dumping some chili powder into your own bowl doesn't cut it
[02:00:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, yeppers. pretty fun.
[02:00:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon, chili powder ain't spicy.
[02:01:03] <nick> what do you think about the whole power-armour thing? I don't want to use it but it seems like the game really wants you to.
[02:01:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it's handy to use when you have to go see that one scientist guy but other than that i mostly just sniped.
[02:01:46] <Fnord666> My kids rarely wear the power armor except the missions designed for it.
[02:01:49] <charon> ok, fair enough. sliced up satan's anus peppers or whatever they are called
[02:02:40] <Fnord666> TMB using the MacCready glitch?
[02:02:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> i usually put four habaneros in a pot and the kids still eat it.
[02:02:53] <nick> cool, i'll keep not using it then and see how it goes.
[02:03:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> Fnord666, nah, just boom, headshot. when they get close i switch guns.
[02:03:34] <Fnord666> or have they patched that?
[02:03:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno
[02:04:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i put a lot of effort into being able to make good sniper rifles though
[02:04:25] <Fnord666> It's fun for like 10 minutes, then too much like cheating
[02:05:10] <Fnord666> cool
[02:05:10] <nick> i have had the good fortune of preston garvey glitching off the map so i don't have to speak to him again i hope
[02:05:17] <Fnord666> lol
[02:05:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice .50 cal to the head gives the most stubborn of baddies pause
[02:05:23] <nick> i only just started sniping on when playing today, was pretty good
[02:05:33] <charon> but what about all the settlements that need your help?
[02:05:36] <Fnord666> yes it does. Ame effect in game as well.
[02:05:42] <Fnord666> same effect
[02:06:19] <nick> as much as i was interested in the settlements, so far i have no settlers to need help
[02:06:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> settlements is annoying. they keep needing rescued no matter how many times you save them.
[02:07:02] <nick> he actually disappeared after the first encounter with him and is apparently hiding inside the workbench
[02:07:41] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, it does seem like a lot of effort
[02:08:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> started over recently and decided to use energy weapons instead of sniper rifles. coming along nicely so far.
[02:08:34] <charon> i feel like i should play this game, but i am not sure if i'm interested enough
[02:08:45] <charon> i'm missing a cultural touchstone
[02:08:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, well, the only real benefit is you can set up your own stores if the premade ones ain't giving you what you want.
[02:09:23] <nick> i started off planning melee but ended up going the old route of the 10mm pistol to get levelling up, but now going more energy and sniper... early game melee seems less than ideal
[02:09:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon, you are. buy it 2nd hand at gamestop or something if you don't wanna pay full price.
[02:09:46] <nick> charon, play FO:NV
[02:10:02] <charon> i have 3 and NV sitting in my steam queue
[02:10:48] <nick> they're way better RPG games, especially NV... but i can see why there was a lot of praise for the combat in 4.
[02:12:18] <nick> im halfway through my second 'speedrun' of NV, can finish the main story in about 90mins with only 2 kills
[02:13:10] <charon> impressive. i guess if you know precisely where to go, it's seasy
[02:13:12] <nick> not a real speedrun, but it's a nice challenge still
[02:13:26] <charon> reminds me of the morrowind speedrun
[02:14:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> only speedruns i ever enjoyed were SMB ones.
[02:14:09] <charon> https://www.youtube.com
[02:14:10] <exec> └─ 13Morrowind Speedrun in 3:14 (WR) - YouTube
[02:14:30] <charon> done right, the main quest takes 50-60 hours
[02:15:11] <nick> for FO:NV you basically need speech of 100 then go: camp mcarran, new vegas, kill benny, kill house, yes man quest, sneak through hoover dam battle and legion camp
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[02:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i'm pretty anal about exploring all the nooks n crannies of questage before beating the game.
[02:15:56] <nick> i don't know how many hours ive put into NV and 3 over the years... i've had both on PS3, 360 and PC
[02:17:33] * TheMightyBuzzard steps out for a smoke
[02:19:26] <nick> http://store.steampowered.com
[02:19:29] <exec> └─ 1380 Days on Steam
[02:26:29] <Fnord666> Just picked up Watchdogs 2 so I need to get that opened up.
[02:27:01] <charon> it occurs to me i haven't played any games in a week. bust doing other stuff, i guess
[02:27:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, i got like 4-5 discs still in the shrink wrap in the livingroom.
[02:27:08] <charon> busy
[02:27:50] * TheMightyBuzzard sees he has 7 messages on the site and grumbles
[02:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw em, they can wait till tomorrow
[02:29:43] <charon> hey nick, does NV modify FO3 or is it separate? as in, should i install NV before playing 3?
[02:30:46] <nick> they are separate
[02:31:24] <nick> 3 apparently doesn't work great on windows 7+ systems from what i've read.
[02:32:13] <nick> in your steam list, do you have the ultimate/goty editions?
[02:32:19] <charon> yes
[02:32:33] <nick> good stuff
[02:32:48] <charon> well. 3 is GOTY, NV is not
[02:33:10] <nick> no ultimate/DLC with NV?
[02:33:23] <charon> can't tell, let me see if it's included
[02:34:01] <charon> looks like it is, there's a list of DLC that has an acquired date
[02:34:29] <nick> yeah, should be good then
[02:34:45] <nick> if 3 works well on your system... you have plenty of fallout to play
[02:35:31] <nick> there's a lot of time to be spent in the full dlc expansions like the pitt and operation anchorage
[02:35:32] <charon> i liked 1 and 2, just never got around to 3
[02:36:45] <nick> never played the originals... just happened to buy 3 when i bought my 360 all those years ago and got hooked
[02:38:27] <nick> 3 and nv are very different from 1 and 2 from what i know.. 4 is different again
[02:39:14] <nick> much more combat focus and the base building/resource management
[02:39:54] <charon> i was going to ask if you use mods, but that's not possible on xbox
[02:40:15] <nick> i have had the games on different platforms, never used mods
[02:40:36] <nick> only one i would suggest anyway is j sawyer mod
[02:40:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> is for 4
[02:41:59] * TheMightyBuzzard is currently running some skimpy underdrawers mod and a batgirl outfit mod
[02:42:41] <nick> lol
[02:42:53] <charon> ...
[02:42:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> no game altering stuff, just humor
[02:43:46] <nick> only games i've used mods on are things like ARMA and ETS
[02:44:07] <charon> skyrim is hugely improved by mods
[02:44:59] <nick> never got into skyrim, started trying it out whilst waiting for FO4
[02:46:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's got one aspect i dig over morrowind, mana regen.
[02:47:06] <charon> oh, yeah. it would only regen when you rested
[02:47:15] <charon> forgot about that
[02:47:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> it annoyed the utter hell outa me
[02:48:25] <nick> i can see why people love skyrim, but worlds of magic and mythical beasts are not for me
[02:48:55] <charon> i loved bootstrapping my int to insane levels to make permanently enchanted items. who needs mana when you can always fly?
[02:49:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just like chopping things with swords
[02:50:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, the sitting around powering up int and spells was a pain though.
[03:03:10] <Fnord666> My daughters always seem to go for thief type builds, elves with archery maxed out.
[03:03:19] <Fnord666> One shot kills on dragons!
[03:03:55] <charon> just like Bard of Dale
[03:04:01] <Fnord666> true
[03:04:17] * charon is a big honking nerd
[03:04:52] <Fnord666> they actually prefer to play Dragon Age because it has a lot more party banter/interaction.
[03:05:25] <charon> and romance
[03:05:48] <charon> huh, i think i got about halfway through that game and just tapered off playing
[03:22:05] <nick> http://www.nbcnewyork.com
[03:42:41] <charon> aww, i was sorta hoping he'd get away with it
[06:06:52] <nick> gah, runaway's comment on the trump-social media story
[06:08:46] <takyon> yeah
[06:08:54] <takyon> I don't really get how that happened
[06:09:32] <takyon> wait, we are talking about something else
[06:09:57] <nick> you talking about the gold?
[06:10:28] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[06:10:30] <exec> └─ 13Toshiba Considers NAND Business Split; Samsung Delays Release of 4 TB SSDs - SoylentNews
[06:11:06] <nick> he's on an roll today
[06:11:27] <takyon> the point is it looks like there is a moderation bug
[06:11:32] <takyon> not sure
[06:12:02] <nick> i've seen that before also, i think
[06:13:03] <nick> tried to downmod but stayed 0... i have karma bonus for AC's... i assume that was the context from my recollection
[06:16:27] <takyon> i had a possible explanation just now but just discarded it
[07:00:20] <nick> http://www.bbc.com
[07:00:22] <exec> └─ 13Theresa May promises 'active' industrial strategy - BBC News
[07:00:46] <nick> Smart energy, robotics, artificial intelligence and 5G mobile network technology are some of the areas that could receive support through a new Industrial Strategy Challenge Fund, according to Downing Street.
[07:03:54] <takyon> woooohooo! 5G!
[07:04:04] <takyon> what is smart energy?
[07:04:08] <takyon> smart grid?
[07:12:13] <nick> something like that i would guess
[07:12:45] <nick> they want 'smart appliances' everywhere to save on electric
[07:16:27] <nick> i heard it explained on the bbc one time, if you want to do your laundry, the washing machine will decide when it lets you, to save you money and to make the grid more stable
[07:20:38] <nick> the uk gov can't do 'green' energy anyway, doesn't play well with the traditional party base
[07:21:52] <takyon> yay! laundry in 17 hours!
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[12:14:07] <takyon> my china headline is awkward, you should probably change it
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[14:00:07] -!- mode/#editorial [+v janrinok] by Hephaestus
[14:01:03] <janrinok> cmn32480, thanks for the comment, but it wasn't easy making circuits out of bare rocks, you know!
[14:03:13] <cmn32480> they were precious metal bearing rocks.. obviously!
[14:07:59] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[14:08:00] * exec single-handedly combines a github of surprise buttsex with janrinok
[14:10:36] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480
[14:10:37] * exec crutchyly penetrates a wide load of Super VHS tapes with cmn32480
[14:11:00] <cmn32480> how goes jan?
[14:12:34] <janrinok> had another good night's sleep - feeling much better but still under orders to take it easy at least until the next cardio appt
[14:12:47] <janrinok> how did J's birthday meal go?
[14:12:50] <cmn32480> that is a good thing
[14:13:05] <cmn32480> went well
[14:13:10] <cmn32480> the food was good... company was better
[14:13:17] <cmn32480> service at the restaurant was slow
[14:13:31] <cmn32480> but the beer was excelent
[14:13:39] <janrinok> they would say that they were giving you time to enjoy your meal and conversation
[14:13:57] <cmn32480> yeah.. they'd be wrong
[14:14:08] <janrinok> marketing!
[14:14:44] <cmn32480> heh
[14:15:01] <cmn32480> dinner took from when we got seated at about 7:45... we left at 10:45
[14:15:04] <cmn32480> WAY too long
[14:15:32] <janrinok> that would be quick for a typical French meal
[14:16:53] <cmn32480> yeah.. this isn't france
[14:17:21] <cmn32480> it was unexpected that it woudl take that long
[14:18:40] <janrinok> I can understand that - Americans put great store in prompt and efficient service, which is possibly why you are almost obliged to tip for it. Here, tips are much smaller and have to be earned.
[14:19:17] <cmn32480> yeah.. the food weas excellnt
[14:19:27] <cmn32480> had a salmon in a sweet chili glaze
[14:19:57] <janrinok> My uncle, who lives only 30 km away, often throws dinner parties that start at 2030 and finish around 0200 the next morning. I hate those sort of dinners
[14:20:27] <cmn32480> half the time I'm asleep by 2030
[14:20:59] <janrinok> I try not to collapse into the dessert, but I am often struggling by the soup course
[14:21:55] <janrinok> the salmon sounds good, what did you have for dessert?
[14:21:59] <cmn32480> seriously
[14:22:08] <cmn32480> birthday cake... of course!
[14:22:41] <janrinok> ah, silly of me. And the heat from those (26) candles can be ferociously hot ...
[14:22:43] <cmn32480> it was a vanilla cake with a buttercream frosting
[14:22:50] <cmn32480> precisely
[18:26:07] * cmn32480 bangs his head on the desk
[18:28:07] <janrinok> just take care - you don't want to damage that desk
[18:28:30] <cmn32480> true... no hari on my head to pad it from damage
[18:29:32] <janrinok> was it caused by a customer?
[18:29:42] <cmn32480> nope... another middle manager
[18:29:51] <janrinok> same sort of idiot
[18:30:26] <cmn32480> this woudl be the one that told em she needed 2 monitors fro her new person as I was packing the box to ship the PC out
[18:31:16] <cmn32480> I don't have any extra cards for that....
[18:31:57] <janrinok> send him a RaspPi and SSH instructions
[18:32:13] <janrinok> he can plug it into a TV then
[18:33:37] <cmn32480> that has a certain amount of ring to it
[18:34:00] <cmn32480> I may just cannibalize a PC that is in an office up front that weas for a guy that got shitcanned
[18:34:37] <janrinok> tell him that you are giving him this option because you know that someone who is less bright wouldn't be able to cope. Then watch him squirm when he debates what to do next
[18:35:41] * janrinok recalls all the other tricks that he learned from BOFH
[18:37:10] <cmn32480> lol
[18:37:16] <cmn32480> that's a spectacular idea
[18:41:52] <cmn32480> OMG... I just had to explain to a user that can't find her applications that they are in the "Start" menu....
[18:43:07] <janrinok> to which she probably replied 'What start menu...?!"
[18:53:47] <cmn32480> now she can't log in because one of the user names is different...
[18:54:13] <cmn32480> people like this make me wanna cry...
[18:54:59] <janrinok> if you shoot her it will probably be considered a mercy killing...
[18:56:49] <cmn32480> merciful for both oof us I imagine...
[19:37:20] <janrinok> ~gnight cmn32480 - gtg
[19:37:21] * exec metrosexually tosses your mom's bra, full of webscale to cmn32480
[19:37:32] <cmn32480> ~gnight janrinok
[19:37:33] * exec abnormally farts a massive fart a tumbleweed of chocolate coins at janrinok
[19:37:35] <cmn32480> sweet dreams!
[19:37:42] <janrinok> best wishes to J
[19:37:45] <cmn32480> you totall won that
[19:37:52] <cmn32480> and mine to S
[19:38:15] <janrinok> yup - it sure looks that way
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[22:15:30] <nick> http://www.foxnews.com
[22:15:32] <exec> └─ 13Tillerson's history with Venezuela could signal push for 'transition to democracy' | Fox News