#editorial | Logs for 2017-01-13
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[00:21:56] * nick clicks
[00:29:02] <nick> one issue i have so far, the 'wandering the grounds and nearly shot' story is only reported as 'late one night'
[00:29:35] <nick> the vice article frames it as if it happened in the days around the holiday season just gone
[00:30:50] <nick> it was reported just after the new year that 'an ex-guardman on one occasion'
[00:33:04] <nick> but otherwise, it's not wrong
[00:33:57] <Bytram> break time biab
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[02:59:04] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[02:59:06] <exec> └─ 13Error
[02:59:09] <takyon> pretty trollish headline IMO
[02:59:23] <takyon> but it is Fox's headline at least!
[03:01:23] <takyon> gotta decide whether I care about Opera
[03:11:15] <nick> i was going to change it to "'social experiments'" or think of something else
[03:15:15] <nick> i'm up for changing headline and improving the story if we think it's too trollish/foxnewsy
[03:19:43] <nick> a lot of TFA focuses on words from a retired lieutenant who was/is a 'senior fellow for national security' at: https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:19:45] <exec> └─ 13Family Research Council - Wikipedia
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[19:42:14] -!- mode/#editorial [+v nick] by Hephaestus
[20:33:51] <nick> has there been any update on the chelsea manning story
[20:35:02] <cmn32480> the wikileaks extradition for her pardon?
[20:35:45] <nick> pardon
[20:35:56] <nick> since the story is now in the queue from earlier in the week
[20:36:08] <cmn32480> nope... haven't seen anything
[20:36:17] <nick> TFS references the wednesday gone, but will not be up until Saturday
[20:36:37] <nick> so it seems like a non-story if there's been no new information
[20:37:01] <nick> we could run a story a day for years on what obama might have planned to do
[20:37:33] <cmn32480> no argument here
[20:38:11] <nick> has there been a sub/story on the assange angle?
[20:38:32] <nick> because at this point, adding that element is the only way i can see it being worth an airing
[20:38:47] <cmn32480> I haven't seen anythign, but I really haven't bee looking too hard either
[20:39:55] <nick> i'm guessing not, after i have some foodings i'll check and then update TFS
[20:41:13] <cmn32480> okie
[20:41:27] <cmn32480> I'm trying to finsih out the week adn get done what needs doing before I go to a custoemr suite tomorrow
[20:44:47] <nick> workin on the weekend?
[20:45:02] <cmn32480> yeah
[20:45:10] <cmn32480> customer doing an upgrade and reuires on site support
[20:45:38] <nick> gettin ot for it?
[20:46:26] <cmn32480> I am salried
[20:46:29] <cmn32480> I odnt' get OT
[20:46:50] <nick> damn
[20:46:52] <cmn32480> but I do get a little extra tossed into the expense check to cover my time
[20:47:41] <nick> when i had a normal job, after midday on a saturday was double time, before that, time and a half.
[20:47:51] <cmn32480> it's time and a half
[20:47:55] <cmn32480> for any weekend work
[20:48:00] <nick> that's ok then
[20:48:53] <nick> the best for me was night work though... do the regular day work, then work a few hours at night for time and a half... if goes past midnight double time and the next day off with pay.
[20:49:16] <cmn32480> nice
[20:49:30] <cmn32480> yeah this particular customer doenst'think much of paying out when they want support
[20:52:17] <nick> out of hours work is always the best in my opinion
[20:52:49] <cmn32480> if you are willing to do it, it makes for decent extra cash
[20:54:13] <nick> got to pay for xmas some time
[20:54:53] <cmn32480> exactly
[20:55:07] <nick> and that reminds me, i still have to pay for my accountants xmas... >:
[20:57:07] <cmn32480> DOH
[20:58:17] <nick> is an expensive month right now
[20:58:37] <cmn32480> I can imagine
[21:00:42] <nick> can't imagine how much worse it would be if i had kids...
[21:02:18] <cmn32480> lol
[21:02:19] <cmn32480> yes
[21:02:24] <cmn32480> it is pretty bad
[21:14:55] <nick> well that took a lot more effort than it should
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[22:21:08] -!- mode/#editorial [+v charon_] by Hephaestus
[22:21:19] <charon_> ~gday editorial
[22:21:20] * exec casually integrates a 400TB/s DDoS of 👌👈 with editorial
[22:32:04] <nick> howdy charon_
[22:32:21] <charon_> hiyo nick. how are you?
[22:39:11] <nick> can't complain
[22:39:12] <nick> yourself?
[22:42:41] <charon_> doing alright.
[22:43:43] <charon_> my work schedule may or may not go a bit wierd for the next while
[22:43:57] <nick> i have updated the summary on the chelsea manning story, if you'd like to check it over
[22:43:59] <nick> oh?
[22:44:31] <charon_> the father of one of my co-workers died today, so he's taking some time off
[22:44:44] <nick> :(
[22:45:23] <charon_> yeah, it's too bad. i didn't know the father, but the guy i work with is a good guy
[22:46:22] <charon_> checking story
[22:51:39] <charon_> the assange-bot being run by the US govt after they snatched the real assange from london is offering to be extradited? to the US where he is not in fact under any charges? this part looks a bit fishy
[22:53:09] <nick> i have my own theories on it, there's a lot more to the assange-snowden-manning situation than is generally discussed
[22:57:52] <charon_> story looks good. only thing i'd add is a direct link to the tweet
[22:58:30] <nick> add if you want, and if you can think of a better headline that includes the assange part
[23:01:37] <charon_> done
[23:01:54] <charon_> i wonder if that one will become a 200 comment monster?
[23:02:16] <nick> gracias
[23:03:07] <charon_> claro
[23:16:45] <charon_> man, reddit amuses the hell out of me sometimes
[23:18:18] <Bytram> charon_: sorry to hear about your coworker's dad -- sucks
[23:19:16] <charon_> i hope he'll be alright
[23:21:01] <Bytram> I've burried both my folks; mom first(with whom I was very close) and then my dad (not so close) but it still was hard
[23:22:51] <charon_> the closest i came was my uncle about 15 years ago. it was tough on me, but devastated my brother
[23:31:02] <Bytram> nod nod; each oerson takes it in their own way. there are some common stages, but no two are the same
[23:31:02] <Bytram> afk biab
[23:40:40] <takyon> where is tha hall of fame for stories linked from
[23:40:46] <takyon> I can never find these obscure pages
[23:42:35] <charon_> i don't know where the link is either, but the page is just hof.pl
[23:43:25] <takyon> yup, you got to #4
[23:43:34] <takyon> an achievement of sadness
[23:43:42] <Bytram> is linked from the faq, IIRC
[23:44:52] <Bytram> hmmm, nope
[23:45:11] <charon_> holy crap, that story is still going?
[23:45:21] <Bytram> which story?
[23:45:32] <takyon> y'all should allow me on the active submitter's list but hard-code Arthur T Knackerbracket and MrPlow off the list
[23:45:34] <charon_> https://soylentnews.org
[23:45:40] * Bytram thinks it keeps getting hit by paging spiders
[23:45:41] <exec> └─ 13Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - SoylentNews
[23:45:47] <takyon> that story will probably take 10 seconds to load
[23:46:02] <charon_> unpaged, probably 20s
[23:46:11] <Bytram> any story on HoF has had its hit count go up monitonically every day I've looked at it
[23:46:39] <charon_> this is comment count though
[23:47:32] <nick> the top stories on the hof is depressing
[23:47:38] <takyon> ^ if you do that mendax stays on the list and we stop honoring bots (especially MrPlow which anyone can submit to)
[23:48:09] <charon_> mostly guns
[23:48:57] <nick> guns, politics, early meta
[23:49:01] <charon_> also, how is arthur not higher?
[23:49:13] <nick> takyon, agree that the bots should not be on hof submitters
[23:49:21] <charon_> i thought sure he'd be in striking distance of p666
[23:49:33] <takyon> maybe a bug. the counts could be wrong
[23:51:41] <Bytram> charon_: "he"? meaning arthur?
[23:51:55] <takyon> whoooaaaaa pronouns for bots
[23:51:59] <takyon> reminds me to submit this story:
[23:52:01] <charon_> yeah
[23:52:07] <nick> how do you find out the total submissions by user anyway? the profile page only does 'recent'
[23:52:12] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[23:52:13] <exec> └─ 13Europe mulls treating robots legally as people ... but with kill switches • The Register
[23:52:26] <Bytram> I can query the db
[23:53:15] <nick> charon_, i think some/many of arthur submissions have been made as AC
[23:53:53] <takyon> ah, that makes sense. explains why the name is on there but not linked the traditional way
[23:53:55] <nick> Bytram, can you find out my total?
[23:54:13] <Bytram> nick, how many sotries you subbed?
[23:54:27] <nick> aye
[23:54:37] <charon_> arthur has a gendered name, i can't help it
[23:55:19] <charon_> nick: oh i bet you're right. some eds leave the byline as "exec writes"
[23:55:29] <Bytram> nick: what's your UID?
[23:55:46] <nick> 993
[23:57:24] <Bytram> UID 1295 has a nickname of 'nick' -- good that I asked!