#editorial | Logs for 2016-12-10
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[00:00:08] <Bytram> just found this thoughtful item in #rss-bot channel: http://mobile.nytimes.com
[00:00:52] <Bytram> ~titles
[00:00:58] <Bytram> ~titleson
[00:01:01] <Bytram> ~titles-on
[00:01:05] <Bytram> ~titles on
[00:01:09] <Bytram> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:01:11] <exec> └─ 13What can we use to hit Intel between the eyes, thinks Qualcomm – a 10nm ARM server chip • The Register
[00:01:32] <Bytram> http://mobile.nytimes.com
[00:01:44] <Bytram> oh well
[00:02:49] * Bytram will not be here long tonight... need to be AT work in less than 13 hrs
[00:04:43] <Fnord666> Cool. The privacy piece is by William Gibson.
[00:05:16] <Fnord666> Author of Neuromancer, etc.
[00:05:50] <charon_> in the future everyone will have implanted finger knives and data jacks. also phones will still have cords and only be installed in homes
[00:06:48] <Fnord666> "The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel"
[00:07:09] <charon_> not blue, you darned kids
[00:07:10] <Deucalion> charon, well logically the buffer would only apply retrospectively. As stated in the opening para, the bouncer is your concierge, a very discreet one, it forgets anything you don't tell it to remember. The alternative would be for the bouncer to remember every line in every channel on every network it knows about, even ones you never joined just in case you should want scrollback for a channel retrospectively. That's getting on for pretty
[00:07:10] <Deucalion> much infinite state if you hook it up to something like Freenode
[00:08:48] <Deucalion> Bytram, get your sleep. This is "peak week" in retail after all :D
[00:09:25] <Bytram> thas better than "peek weak", right?
[00:09:28] <Bytram> ;)
[00:10:11] <Deucalion> Depends on your state of sanity I guess.
[00:10:18] <charon_> Deucalion: in retrospect that makes sense. i just assumed that changing the setting in the config would change the bouncer in real time
[00:10:41] <charon_> for the channels i was already in
[00:13:32] <Deucalion> It did change it in real time. From that point hence it would save your designated N number of lines for playback. What do you expect it to do? Say you have it set for 10 lines scrollback, then change your mind to 9999 lines.... at all times the bouncer should keep 10000 lines scrollback for all your channels in case you change your mind? That would have people up in arms... why the fuck is the bouncer "secretly" storing 10000 lines of ev
[00:13:32] <Deucalion> ery channel I'm in when I only asked for 10? etc.
[00:15:58] <Deucalion> IRC is tinfoil hat territory... that kind of behaviour would be stomped on so viciously it would be the end of ZNC as a bouncer. We much prefer "it does what it says on the tin and only what it says on the tin".
[00:16:20] <chromas> it only needs to store each channel once for everybody though
[00:16:29] <chromas> Save all channels forever!
[00:16:39] <charon_> then maybe something is still wrong. because after i set buffer to 9999, next time i logged into it, it still only showed 50
[00:17:24] <charon_> worng with my settings, mind you.
[00:17:25] <chromas> We just didn't talk 'til you got back
[00:17:36] <charon_> lol
[00:18:12] <charon_> someone at the NSA just decided to hire chromas
[00:19:02] <Deucalion> chromas, it's a fucking bouncer... each user could be on any number of networks, each network with any number of channels.... the bouncer should log all channels on all networks just in case? Fuck it, every bouncer instance anywhere should hold every message on any channel on any irc server ever and hold it in memory for instant replay forever. That's not even sane.
[00:19:33] <Deucalion> Sheesh... we used to have NNTP for that
[00:20:01] <chromas> Yes. Irc.nsa.gov
[00:20:39] <Deucalion> charon_, you still only getting 50 scrollback on channels?
[00:21:35] <charon_> not at home now, and i'm pretty sure i won't because i rejoined all channels and now the network config window agrees with buffer size in the user config window
[00:22:29] <charon_> the test will be when i get on tonight in about 2 hours
[00:28:02] <Deucalion> Ahh OK... inheritance on settings bites again I suspect (I touch on that in the wiki page too). Did you up the buffer size on the user page and expect it to apply to your existing channels?
[00:28:45] <Deucalion> One clue... on the User Page..... "Default Settings For New Future Channels" in big and bold letters above the buffer field :D
[00:28:53] <charon_> ha ha
[00:29:00] <Deucalion> ~Future~ being key I guess
[00:29:07] <charon_> i saw that after reading the 3rd or 4th time
[00:29:37] <Deucalion> I know... headings, what use are they :P
[00:30:03] <charon_> pssh, all those squiggles just run together
[00:30:31] <Deucalion> The bastards doubled down too... "New Future" ...perhaps if they should have gone ALL CAPS and made it marque too :D
[00:30:47] <Deucalion> And put fairy lights on it
[00:30:58] <Deucalion> and dancing unicorns
[00:30:59] <charon_> <blink> Deucalion was here </blink>
[00:31:34] <charon_> i say, are you calling me unobservant?
[00:32:09] <Deucalion> good point, I should fuck off to bed, I've been here far longer than the usual blink of an eye and must be away
[00:32:37] <Fnord666> ~gnight Deucalion
[00:32:39] * exec single-candidly gives birth to a 5¼" floppy dick of tongue awareness month for Deucalion
[00:33:16] <Deucalion> exec is going downhill in its new custodianship :(
[00:33:42] * Fnord666 guffaws
[00:35:15] <charon_> ~gnight Deucalion
[00:35:17] * exec allegedly combines a big floppy donkey dick of sammiches with Deucalion
[00:36:31] <charon_> bytram!! are you planning to release that "Leverage your Talents" story?
[00:37:23] <Fnord666> Good question. I've been waffling about the timing of stories this evening.
[00:37:31] <Bytram> charon: umm, yeah... kinda forgot about it... given it's near year end and people are busy with holiday shopping, end-of-year deadlines and all, maybe best to postpose to new year sometime
[00:37:48] <charon_> ok, i'll schedule so as to ignore it
[00:37:57] <Bytram> thanks!
[00:38:03] <Bytram> appreciate the reminder!
[00:38:11] <charon_> any time
[00:38:53] <charon_> fnord, i have one ready to slot, so i'll put it in that time space
[00:40:39] <Fnord666> If you wish but I already scheduled as if it wasn't going to run.
[00:41:18] <Fnord666> I would jsut have to push one out a bit though. No big deal.
[00:47:07] <charon_> you're a publishing machine!
[00:47:53] <charon_> annnnd i just found out the one i was working is a dupe of one you already di
[00:58:58] <takyon> charon_: I never knew that spaces were converted to dashes in the dept field. And I've been an editor quite a while now. That's hundreds of times I've entered in dashes manually
[00:59:34] <takyon> anyway, if you have any suggestions for my script, send them to my email, journal, or here
[01:03:32] <Bytram> Fnord666: ruh roh... I think I messed up scheduling a couple stories... working on it
[01:03:41] <takyon> TYPICAL
[01:04:07] <Bytram> LOL!
[01:05:28] <charon_> bytram, i got it taken care of
[01:05:45] <charon_> takyon: HAH, i knew it wasn't just me
[01:07:02] <Bytram> oh? I wsa workng on it
[01:07:02] * Bytram cheks queue
[01:07:04] <takyon> I might have heard about it one time in the middle of being an editor, and forgotten it instantly
[01:07:17] <charon_> i was working on it first, nyah
[01:07:47] <Bytram> charon: well! I was working on it *SECOND* -- so there! ;)
[01:07:51] <takyon> what are you, a catgirl?
[01:08:03] <charon_> god i hope not...
[01:11:17] <charon_> takyon: it annoyed me enough to spend more time writing a function to change it than i will ever save
[01:12:20] <takyon> those seconds really add up
[01:12:28] <takyon> like the button I have that autocapitalizes words
[01:12:37] <takyon> or the "despace" function in text areas
[01:14:32] <charon_> i set up that button to be just like the auto-cap button. i was so happy with it
[01:16:10] <takyon> well you could just change it so that clicking the button adds one of a few very generic dept lines
[01:21:10] <chromas> From the dept-generator dept
[01:21:28] <Bytram> good one!
[01:21:59] * Bytram has almost finished listening/watching: https://www.youtube.com
[01:22:01] <exec> └─ 13ELP - Full Concert - Live in Zurich 1970 - Remastered (Belgium Pop Shop) - YouTube
[01:23:04] <Bytram> try and ignore the video overlays/montages -- hard to watch the drum solo, but some great music
[01:29:18] <charon_> teamwork++
[01:29:18] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 123
[01:37:11] <charon_> bytram: whoa, he's playing the organ upside down!
[01:37:52] <Bytram> neat, huh?
[01:38:21] <Bytram> kinda like typing on an upsidedown keyboard -- I can do it, but not as well/quickly
[01:38:39] <charon_> that must take a fair bit of practice. thought it's just as silly as the guitar version
[01:38:45] <charon_> though
[01:38:46] <Bytram> how far into the video are you? near the end he plays it even better!
[01:38:56] <charon_> ~8 min
[01:39:03] <Bytram> nod jnod
[01:39:07] <Bytram> it gets better
[01:39:09] <Bytram> =)
[01:39:44] <Bytram> just beware of the psychedelic blinking overlays coming up -- i found 'em very distracting
[01:40:13] <charon_> i'll put on my sunglasses
[01:41:32] * Bytram found it especially frustrating during the drum solo -- trying to watch closely and *BAM* and then okay... and *BAM*
[01:54:38] <charon_> yeah. good drumming, but the random images were pretty lame
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[02:38:09] <charon> it works. just like it says on the box
[03:04:26] <charon> any longer term eds about? bytram?
[03:04:36] <Bytram> not here
[03:04:39] <Bytram> ;)
[03:04:40] <charon> you lose
[03:04:45] <charon> or win?
[03:04:58] <Bytram> draw.
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[03:05:08] <Bytram> double entendre inended
[03:05:14] <Bytram> *intended
[03:05:22] <charon> pictionary
[03:06:17] <Bytram> not to rush... but I need to be AT work in just under 10 hrs.... and I would like to sleep first... whats up?
[03:06:24] <charon> so i've never rejected a sub before, but i am going to. does it send a message to the submitter automatically?
[03:06:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, how ya feel about playing the SN heavy tonight and issuing a mod-ban to runaway1956 for mod-bombing?
[03:06:56] <cmn32480> well.. you all owe me a big "Thank you"
[03:07:08] <Bytram> charon: well, first off, we usually just post a comment in the editors notes... and look for a consensus before dropping the story
[03:07:09] <charon> thanks cmn32480!
[03:07:15] <cmn32480> by picking up a real snow blower, I have just guaranteed the next several winters will be sunny and mild
[03:07:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, T H A N K Y O U
[03:07:26] <charon> it's a dupe, fairly straightforward?
[03:07:27] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: lemme check
[03:07:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's as big as i can do without changing fonts
[03:07:55] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: lemme check
[03:07:59] <cmn32480> bytram - I'll handle if you need to sack out
[03:08:09] <charon> pro tip: do not leave gas in it when you put it away in spring
[03:08:17] <Bytram> cmn32480: the mod bombing or the dupe?
[03:08:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, cmn32480 can do it if ye don wanner
[03:08:25] <cmn32480> mod bomb
[03:08:29] <Bytram> charon: is it a dupe as in we have already posted htat story?
[03:08:40] <Bytram> cmn32480++ thanks!
[03:08:40] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 78
[03:08:43] <cmn32480> and the dupe... but I have no idea abotu the dupe... I skipped scroll back cuz there was a lot of it
[03:08:43] <charon> yes, i made a note, link to the story in the note
[03:08:53] * Bytram remembers watching "the Mod Squad"
[03:08:56] <cmn32480> I'll handle Bytram
[03:09:01] <cmn32480> go sleep
[03:09:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, just hit the unmod and ban once, the other four just hit unmod
[03:09:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> otherwise he'll end up banned until sometime in 2019
[03:09:27] <charon> 5 buttons, 5 bans
[03:09:36] <Bytram> for future reference... what happened? 5 downmods in one day on one user?
[03:09:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[03:09:44] <Bytram> or wrong spam mod?
[03:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, spam's been all quiet lately
[03:10:09] <charon> huh, those two are diametrically opposed, but runaway usually comes across as pretty rational
[03:10:44] * cmn32480 checks charon for a temperature
[03:10:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, i usually send a message to the one getting banned letting them know why as well but you ain't technically gotta.
[03:10:52] <Bytram> there's a bunch of argueing going on in the discussions, but all-in-all we have a good community that way... mostly plays by the rules they set up for themselves. =)
[03:10:58] * TheMightyBuzzard heads off to bed
[03:11:04] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:11:06] * exec diarrhetically evolves a wallet of piano wire from TheMightyBuzzard
[03:11:07] <charon> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:11:08] * exec abnormally hucks a dumpster full of onion rings at TheMightyBuzzard
[03:11:27] <cmn32480> that's a LOT of onion rings....
[03:11:29] <charon> diarrhetically is not a word!
[03:11:58] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: cmn32480: looks like Francis came close... 4 out of 5 mods were a downmod of aristukus
[03:12:20] <Deucalion> cmn32480, fleshed out that JD yet?
[03:12:26] <cmn32480> yes.. antichrist had a shitton of down mods in that thread
[03:12:36] <cmn32480> nope
[03:12:55] <cmn32480> taht was supposed to be on tap for today at the office... got side tracked by customers calling in
[03:13:18] <Bytram> ~gnight charon
[03:13:19] * exec provocatively shoves a singularity of lips & assholes in charon
[03:13:30] <charon> John Deere? Jack Daniels? Juris Doctor?
[03:13:36] <Deucalion> I know how ii goes.
[03:13:37] <charon> ~gnight Bytram
[03:13:38] * exec hurriedly tosses a megabyte of coffee++ to Bytram
[03:13:44] <cmn32480> ~gnight bytram
[03:13:45] * exec casually coalesces a cache of Windows 10 with bytram
[03:13:50] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:13:51] * exec deliciously writes a fanfic featuring a pint of love about cmn32480
[03:13:52] <cmn32480> charon - job description
[03:13:59] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:14:01] * exec whole-heartedly prepares a tcp stream of testicular torsion for TheMightyBuzzard
[03:14:03] * cmn32480 blushes
[03:14:15] <charon> rofl
[03:16:58] * cmn32480 wonders how long the mod ban actually lasts.
[03:18:08] <Bytram> cmn32480: look at the https://soylentnews.org page, I think
[03:18:10] <exec> └─ 13Username - SoylentNews User
[03:18:16] <Bytram> LOL!
[03:19:22] <Bytram> scroll down to "Moderation Ban Date"... which shows today. not very helpful, that.
[03:19:34] <Bytram> ISTR its 30 days. cehck with buzz on that one
[03:19:45] <Bytram> methinks it's a site var
[03:20:30] <cmn32480> looking at the wiki
[03:20:35] <cmn32480> shoudn't you be in bed?
[03:21:26] <Bytram> found it!
[03:21:37] * Bytram has long arms
[03:21:56] <Bytram> Admin / CONFIG / Vars
[03:22:13] <Bytram> Variable Name: m1_1st_ban_duration
[03:22:17] <Bytram> Value: 30
[03:22:32] <Bytram> Description: Duration of ban in days the first time someone is banned from moderating
[03:22:42] <Bytram> =)
[03:22:54] <cmn32480> muchas grassy ass
[03:23:06] <Bytram> see also:
[03:23:12] <cmn32480> ~gday >beverage muchas grassy ass
[03:23:12] <exec> added to beverages
[03:23:14] <charon> 30 days? pretty harsh for a first offense
[03:23:20] <cmn32480> nope
[03:23:26] <cmn32480> 6 months for second time
[03:23:29] <cmn32480> a year for third
[03:23:30] <Bytram> var: m1_ban_duration / 180 / Duration of ban in days all subsequent times someone is banned from moderating
[03:23:41] <Bytram> wehre you se that?
[03:23:42] <cmn32480> forever if needed
[03:23:54] <cmn32480> 180 day is 6 months
[03:23:58] <cmn32480> I remembered that one
[03:24:11] <charon> 182.5?
[03:24:11] <cmn32480> I couldn't remember the first offender was a week or a month
[03:24:20] <cmn32480> yes charon
[03:24:30] <charon> lol
[03:24:31] <Bytram> yeah, that is the "m1_ban_duration" var... where'd you get the year / forever values from
[03:24:31] <Bytram> ?
[03:25:00] <Bytram> charon: nope, in 2 years it'd be 183
[03:25:01] <Bytram> =)
[03:25:22] <Bytram> anyway, pointed ya in the right direction.
[03:25:31] <Bytram> bedtime for big boys
[03:26:17] <charon> you and your new-fangled leap days
[03:27:03] <Bytram> blame caeser
[03:27:05] <Bytram> oh, wait.
[03:27:07] <cmn32480> ~blame
[03:27:07] <Bytram> ~blame
[03:27:08] * exec points at Bytram
[03:27:08] * exec points at Bytram
[03:27:12] <cmn32480> twice!
[03:27:12] <Bytram> LOL!
[03:27:12] <charon> why if february were meant to have 29 days, pope gregory would have made it so
[03:27:38] <cmn32480> #smake charon
[03:27:38] * MrPlow smakes charon upside the head with a radish
[03:27:45] <Bytram> well, Augustus had to have more days in his month than the other *lowly* blokes
[03:28:14] * cmn32480 can't remember if Gregory was what my ancient history prof referred to as one of the "Porno Popes"
[03:28:42] <charon> that certainly gets the point across
[03:28:52] <cmn32480> he's a good friend still
[03:29:00] <cmn32480> I get to have a beer w/ him every now and aagin
[03:29:07] <charon> that's pretty cool
[03:31:50] <Bytram> πορνογράφος
[03:35:43] <charon> so cmn32480, teach me an advance editor lesson?
[03:36:03] <cmn32480> sure
[03:36:17] <cmn32480> when you put spaces in the sept line... the site fills them in for you
[03:36:42] <charon> you know... takyon didn't know that either. it was not only me
[03:36:51] <charon> jerk
[03:37:13] * cmn32480 bows his head in failure
[03:37:16] <charon> lol
[03:37:38] <cmn32480> I didn't trrain takyon
[03:37:47] <charon> ~blame
[03:37:48] * exec points at Bytram
[03:37:56] <charon> i suspected as much
[03:38:51] <cmn32480> yep
[03:38:54] <cmn32480> him or janrinok
[03:39:00] <charon> how do i go about rejecting a sub that is a dupe?
[03:39:04] <cmn32480> takyon came on board 'bout the same time I did
[03:39:41] <cmn32480> the Aristotle troll?
[03:39:48] <charon> yes
[03:39:50] <cmn32480> ok
[03:39:56] <cmn32480> go inot the preview screen
[03:40:10] <cmn32480> under update sub w/o promoting
[03:40:18] <cmn32480> plug in a reason
[03:40:24] <cmn32480> should be somethign nice
[03:40:33] <cmn32480> example in a sec
[03:40:33] <charon> you're a dipshit?
[03:40:43] <charon> oh... nice...
[03:41:23] <cmn32480> Thanks for the submission. Unfortunately, this seems to be a duplicate of <linky>. We appreciate your continued support, and hope to see you submitting again soon. - cmn32480
[03:41:45] <cmn32480> somethign like that is appropriate
[03:41:56] <cmn32480> "this is a dupe, shithead"... might send the wrong message
[03:42:14] <charon> yea, may not encourage people to submit again
[03:42:18] <Bytram> move stuff to the extended copy area when the story has 400 or more words.
[03:42:35] <cmn32480> GO TO BED BYTRAM
[03:42:37] * charon claps for Bytram
[03:42:43] <cmn32480> don't make me .kick you
[03:43:15] * Bytram is in bed, but moved his kbd over
[03:43:22] <Bytram> yeah, right.
[03:43:53] <cmn32480> I've got 21.kicks to my name...
[03:44:02] <cmn32480> don't make me make you number 22
[03:44:03] <charon> then the delete button?
[03:44:11] <cmn32480> correct.
[03:44:45] <charon> and it sends that message to the subber? nothing more needed?
[03:44:52] <cmn32480> correct
[03:45:13] <charon> thank you!
[03:45:33] <charon> don't do it bytram, dictators are bad
[03:45:56] <cmn32480> and what, pray tell, is wrong with penis potatos?
[03:46:37] <charon> as the kids say, i can't even
[03:46:42] <Bytram> oh, and for posterity, I make it a point of placing a copy of the deletion message in the Editor's Notes field, so it can be referred to later, if needed.
[03:46:42] <Bytram> and now I'm gone
[03:51:05] <chromas> Bender: grab cmn32480
[03:51:05] <Bender> Added quote 45
[03:57:52] * cmn32480 decides that bed is a fine option.
[03:58:04] <cmn32480> ~gnight editorial
[03:58:05] * exec overratedly postulates an easter basket of 555 timers towards editorial
[03:59:22] <charon> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:59:24] * exec analiciously gives birth to a barrage of active directory for cmn32480
[04:01:00] <chromas> 21.kicks sounds like a shoe store for urban youths
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[08:53:31] -!- mode/#editorial [+v janrinok] by Hephaestus
[15:23:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Hephaestus
[15:23:37] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[15:23:53] <MrPlow> #fite Hephaestus falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
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[18:41:20] <cmn32480> ~blame
[18:41:21] * exec points at Bytram
[18:41:27] <cmn32480> good not my fault
[18:41:28] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480
[18:41:29] * exec slowly postulates a raid 6 volume of instant grits towards cmn32480
[18:41:33] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[18:41:35] * exec dexterously shoves a caravan of bling blong in janrinok
[18:41:49] <janrinok> how's things
[18:41:58] <cmn32480> pretty reasonable
[18:42:07] <cmn32480> the 4 hour pack meeting turned inot 2 hours... so that was a bonus
[18:42:14] <cmn32480> still eating lasagne
[18:42:15] <janrinok> good, what have you got to do today with the kids?
[18:42:18] <cmn32480> so that's pretty nice
[18:42:31] <cmn32480> ignore them as much as possible
[18:42:46] <janrinok> lol
[18:43:18] <cmn32480> holy crap.. the 30 year old snowblower still has OEM parts available from sears
[18:43:50] <janrinok> I take it that you need parts - you're not just searching for the hell of it?
[18:44:38] <cmn32480> I was looking to replace the muffler... the one that is on there is heavily rusted and that bitch is LOUD
[18:45:04] <janrinok> has the snow already arrived where you are - I note some heavy falls on the news
[18:45:17] <cmn32480> not here
[18:47:10] <janrinok> she who must be obeyed beckons, brb
[18:48:23] <cmn32480> give S a hug for me
[18:50:08] <Fnord666> ~gday cmn32480
[18:50:09] * exec spontaneously pilfers an XFS volume of breakfast chili from cmn32480
[18:50:17] <cmn32480> ~Gday Fnord666
[18:50:18] * exec fanatically flings a cube of naval lint at Fnord666
[18:50:40] * cmn32480 goes to approve fnord's wiki account
[18:51:15] <Fnord666> Preparing for the coming winter I see.
[18:51:41] <cmn32480> yeah.. it needs a little TLC
[18:52:17] <cmn32480> I need ot run some marvals through the fuel, and change the oil... that sort of thing
[18:52:20] <janrinok> cmn32480, she sends a hug in return. You guys get more hugs than I do!
[18:52:25] <janrinok> ~gday Fnord666
[18:52:26] * exec mistakenly hangs a trigger warning sign about a mighty bundle of ads on Fnord666
[18:52:32] <cmn32480> we dish them out liberally
[18:52:35] <Fnord666> ~gday janrinok
[18:52:36] * exec brazenly experiences a fat32 volume of purple drank with janrinok
[18:52:45] <cmn32480> I have enough love to give her a share as well
[18:52:52] <janrinok> too kind
[18:53:00] <cmn32480> after all... you don't get any from me.. all you get is abuse
[18:53:25] <Fnord666> but it's quality abuse
[18:53:28] <janrinok> true - but I wasn't sure that you had noticed
[18:54:11] <cmn32480> we have a lower quality abuse, if you'd prefer...
[18:54:33] <Fnord666> that I can get anywhere. I come here for the good stuff.
[18:54:41] <janrinok> lol
[18:54:43] <cmn32480> we aim to please
[18:54:57] <janrinok> and often miss
[18:55:20] <cmn32480> Fnord666 - your wiki account shoudl now be active. Sorry for the delay. look at the address you signed up with for a pwd. soon as the stupid ball quits spinning on the page
[18:55:30] <cmn32480> shoudl work eventually
[18:56:09] <janrinok> Fnord666, he always apologises for the delay, but it doesn't stop the same thing happening to the next guy....
[18:56:30] <Fnord666> :-)
[18:57:47] <cmn32480> and deservedly so
[18:59:23] <Fnord666> logged in successfully. Thanks!
[19:00:05] <Fnord666> How is everyone today?
[19:00:18] <janrinok> well this bit of everyone is very well thx
[19:01:21] <cmn32480> sorry.y. was summoned by she who must be obeyed
[19:01:38] <janrinok> does S call you as well?
[19:01:45] <cmn32480> frequently
[19:01:49] <janrinok> damn
[19:01:50] <cmn32480> have'nt you noticed the higher phone bills?
[19:02:26] <janrinok> no - she must have been calling someone else before you came along
[19:02:48] * cmn32480 gives bytram the evil eye
[19:03:21] <janrinok> take the evil eye back, you might need it again
[19:03:38] <cmn32480> I'm not an Indian giver
[19:03:54] <janrinok> no, you are an eye giver - I just saw you
[19:04:13] * cmn32480 passes janrinok an indian
[19:04:28] * janrinok puts him in the box with the others
[19:04:43] <Fnord666> now he's an indian giver.
[19:05:40] * cmn32480 notes that janrinok's box must be rather large to store multiple cigar store indians
[19:05:55] * janrinok built it especially
[19:06:22] * cmn32480 is rather shocked that there are still 221 parts available for this ancient snowblower
[19:06:58] * cmn32480 also now needs to go see who made the engine to see if there are parts available for it
[19:07:11] <cmn32480> dad gummit
[19:07:13] <cmn32480> brb
[19:10:20] <cmn32480> found a model number but no manufacturer sticker
[19:10:27] <cmn32480> without taking off cowlings, etc
[19:11:19] <cmn32480> WOOT!
[19:11:26] <cmn32480> engine comes up on Sears website too!
[19:11:31] * cmn32480 dopes th happy dance
[19:12:43] <Fnord666> what, you don't have the user manual with all that info on it?
[19:12:53] <cmn32480> shockingly, no
[19:13:10] <cmn32480> my dad didn't get the user manual for the unit when he got the unit from my uncle in 1996
[19:13:20] <cmn32480> likely, my uncle didn't ahve it
[19:14:00] <janrinok> it sounds like it should be wood fired!
[19:15:22] <cmn32480> good enough for what I need.. and far better than my 2cycle model that is only good to about 8 inches of snow
[19:15:34] <Fnord666> Great taht it's still going. Nothing you buy today will last that long.
[19:15:45] <cmn32480> not necessarily true
[19:15:55] <cmn32480> there are some bands that still build quality
[19:16:03] <cmn32480> and it was well taken care of
[19:16:49] <Fnord666> Ok, they are just few and far between.
[19:17:01] <cmn32480> that I will absolutely agree with
[19:17:09] <cmn32480> and you will pay a big premium for them
[19:17:22] <Fnord666> and if you neglect it, nothing will last very long.
[19:17:35] <cmn32480> yup
[19:17:50] <cmn32480> Dad even told me that the last time he changed the oil was before last snow season
[19:18:05] <Fnord666> Fortunately in your case the parts and supplies are still available also.
[19:18:28] <Fnord666> it can be built like a tank, but if the parts and consumables are not available...
[19:19:00] <Fnord666> unless you happen to own a CNC of course.
[19:19:22] <Fnord666> or a 3D printer.
[19:19:25] <cmn32480> right
[19:19:49] <cmn32480> but stuff from sears (craftsman branded) has the reputation for parts availability fornearly ever
[19:19:59] <cmn32480> *for nearly ever
[19:20:35] <Fnord666> That is true. I have a push mower that is over 20 years old and parts are still available for it as well from Sears.
[19:21:00] <cmn32480> exactly
[19:22:46] <Fnord666> Good luck finding a TV that will last or be user serviceable though.
[19:24:22] <janrinok> and the number of monitors that I have had to scrap after a couple of years service, simply because when I open them up I am presented with a couple of ICs that I cannot replace
[19:24:52] <Fnord666> exactly.
[19:25:10] <cmn32480> nod nod
[19:25:22] <cmn32480> slightly different for mechanical equipment like this
[19:25:37] <Fnord666> true.
[19:26:55] <cmn32480> for instance, if I can get a gasket kit, I can rebuild any of my gas lawn inplements from the ground up
[19:27:03] <Fnord666> I know more than one person that routinely uses a farm tractor that was made before 1960
[19:27:03] <cmn32480> and have them work like new
[19:27:25] <cmn32480> before the advent of computers in equipment
[19:27:34] <Fnord666> lol. yes.
[19:27:45] <cmn32480> that is the stuff that will survive the EMP wars
[19:28:02] <cmn32480> becasue, very simply, there is nothign to fry
[19:28:45] <Fnord666> distributor? points? condenser? what are these things? :-)
[19:28:59] <cmn32480> kids today have no idea
[19:29:41] <cmn32480> admittedly, I've never had to change them either, but I know what they are and how to do it
[19:30:31] <Fnord666> I made the mistake of going into a radio shack a couple of years ago and asked for an opinion on a new soldering iron. The blank stare I got in return made me die just a little inside.
[19:31:16] <cmn32480> lol
[19:31:17] <cmn32480> woot
[19:31:24] <cmn32480> gasket set... $9.30
[19:31:36] * Fnord666 golf claps
[19:31:44] <cmn32480> I may get one just to have it
[19:32:05] <Fnord666> at least one but I'm kinda like that.
[19:32:22] <cmn32480> current gaskets are 30 years old and haven't failed
[19:32:34] <Fnord666> now you've done it.
[19:32:50] <cmn32480> so buying a set will ensure that tehy last beyond my use for the blower
[19:33:02] <Fnord666> and not buying one insures a leak in a week.
[19:33:08] <cmn32480> correct
[19:33:23] <cmn32480> but getting the blower ensures only dustings of snow for the next 10 years
[19:33:49] <cmn32480> but once we get a big snow, it is a certainty that it won't start, or run properly
[19:35:02] <Fnord666> I've learned to accept the fact that the $deities of fate are simply smarter than me.
[19:35:37] <cmn32480> and vindictive... don't forget vindictive
[19:36:00] <Fnord666> oh yeah. Don't try to outsmart them. They take offense easily.
[19:51:58] <cmn32480> and I jsut found a download of the manual online
[19:54:53] <janrinok> time to go for me!
[19:59:01] <cmn32480> ~gnight janrinok
[19:59:02] * exec diabolically crams a zfs volume of underwear into janrinok
[19:59:08] <Fnord666> janrinok have a good evening. Say hi to S for me.
[20:04:22] <Fnord666> back in a bit
[20:05:53] <janrinok> ~gnight cmn32480
[20:05:54] * exec crutchyly planks a tarball of pain and suffering for cmn32480
[20:06:01] <janrinok> ~gnight Fnord666
[20:06:02] * exec sneakily connects a test tube of xp to Fnord666
[20:06:11] <cmn32480> gee thanks... more pain and sufering.. like the kids aren't enough!
[20:06:17] <janrinok> Fnord666, S says hi and bye to you too!
[20:06:30] <janrinok> you need the practice
[20:06:44] <janrinok> see you tomorrow perhaps?
[20:07:13] <cmn32480> likel;y
[20:07:20] <cmn32480> but who knows what J has planned
[20:07:32] <janrinok> I'm sure you will enjoy it!
[20:07:45] <janrinok> give J my best, take care
[20:07:45] * cmn32480 picks up his evil eyes as they roll acrtoss the floor
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[20:09:12] <cmn32480> now that he is gone we can talk about him
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[20:29:15] <charon_> hiyo anyone
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[20:33:14] <Fnord666> hey charon
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[23:59:07] <cmn32480> #fite Hephaestus
[23:59:07] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[23:59:21] <MrPlow> #fite Hephaestus falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[23:59:58] <cmn32480> #fite swiss
[23:59:58] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see swiss