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[00:12:22] <Bytram> afk biab
[00:37:10] <Bytram> just pushed out the "What's Nature Worth?" story... not sure about the 'love canal' reference... should we leave it in?
[00:38:26] <cmn32480> I think it ought to stay
[00:39:27] <chromas> is it flowing with milk and honey?
[00:39:46] <chromas> (or just flowing)
[00:39:51] <cmn32480> not jsut any milk and honey
[00:39:57] <cmn32480> TOXIC milk adn honey
[00:51:46] <Bytram> I once had a honey who was toxic... does that count? ;)
[00:52:58] <cmn32480> yeah... we all been there
[00:53:46] <Bytram> and I thought I could BEE the first.
[00:53:54] <Bytram> ;)
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[01:38:43] <GungnirSniper> Gentlefolk, are we running any Election 2016 stuff? If so, could you kindly push through this submission tonight? https://soylentnews.org
[01:38:44] <snowfire> ^ 03SN Submission by GungnirSniper: Election 2016 - Carly Fiorina and Chris Christie Drop After NH Primary
[01:39:07] <GungnirSniper> I wrote it for today, perhaps unwisely, rather than time non-specific.
[01:39:32] <GungnirSniper> Off to the glutony market, peace and love.
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[01:49:21] <Bytram> cmn32480: ^^^^
[01:49:39] * Bytram is not sure how to summon all the editors.
[01:53:47] <Bytram> I'm of a mind to suggest that we implement a general guideline about elections. If there is a technological aspect wrt a candidate's position or voting technology, then a story *MAY* be worthy of consideration. I'd really rather NOT see us provide coverage of every primary vote, election, caucus. For one, this is US-centric and I can just imagine if we start providing a similar level of coverage across the entire world. Secondly, there ar
[01:53:47] <Bytram> venues for people to hold their discussions. And, on the gripping hand, these discussions have a tendency to descend into name-calling and us-vs-them vitriol.
[01:53:49] <Bytram> thoughts?
[02:06:42] <cmn32480> bytram - exec cna do it with a ~eds
[02:07:09] <Bytram> CNA - certified nurse's aide
[02:07:35] <Bytram> ~eds Would appreciate any feedback you may have on my above proposal.
[02:07:38] <exec> editor ping for Bytram (reason: would appreciate any feedback you may have on my above proposal.): janrinok LaminatorX n1 nick martyb Bytram Azrael mrcoolbp cmn32480 coolhand takyon cmn32480|away bytram|away
[02:08:42] <cmn32480> I'd think that right now, it's a wide open field, and 8(?) months from the election... nobody gives a shit until the end
[02:09:13] <cmn32480> when it is a field of 2, and there is a good tech angle, or a severe implosion, or...
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[03:08:41] <Bytram> cmn32480: thanks for the feedback!
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[04:01:15] <Bytram> NotSanguine: hiya! I see you are looking at the Moore's law article
[04:01:39] <Bytram> here is a link to the original paper that you could add to the story: http://large.stanford.edu
[04:02:04] <NotSanguine> bytram: I am. I'm making it readable and will ask you to take a look when I'm done
[04:02:14] <Bytram> much appreciated!
[04:02:17] <NotSanguine> Funny! I was just looking for that paper
[04:02:22] <NotSanguine> You read my mind
[04:02:34] <Bytram> I've seen proclamations about 'Moore's Law is dead' for prolly going on decades now.
[04:02:42] <Bytram> hth
[04:02:47] <NotSanguine> Actually, I was looking for the 1965 paper
[04:02:58] <NotSanguine> But this will probably do for now.
[04:03:42] <takyon> now I have to scroll up and read, gawd
[04:04:37] <NotSanguine> Yeah, me too. But this article actually makes some technical and economic sense, especially given the wider acceptance of multi-processor architectures and SOCs in pretty much everything
[04:04:39] <takyon> yyeah I am in favor of killing election stories unless it is really a big deal or
[04:04:49] <takyon> they really shoehorn in a technical angle
[04:05:18] <Bytram> takyon: thanks for the feedback... sounds like we are in agreement.
[04:05:25] <NotSanguine> Perhaps one about the high transistor count in the donald's hairpiece?
[04:05:49] <NotSanguine> Or not. :)
[04:05:56] <Bytram> I'll be hard-pressed to push out an election story at all, and will view any in the queue with extreme prejudice. =)
[04:06:29] <NotSanguine> bytram: this is the one I was thinking of using
[04:06:30] <NotSanguine> https://www.cs.utexas.edu
[04:06:38] <takyon> we are already walking on eggshells with some of the crap that was accepted the other day
[04:06:41] * Bytram clicks
[04:07:20] <Bytram> takyon: I noticed. I took a few chances and the community spoke up, quite clearly.
[04:07:53] <takyon> really I think the best fallback story is any science story
[04:08:03] <takyon> they aren't time-sensitive and they can run whenever
[04:09:31] <Bytram> NotSanguine: HERE is the link I meant to send you: http://download.intel.com
[04:20:05] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: not sure which "proposal", you mean about the stack stories?
[04:20:33] <cmn32480> <blink> <blink>
[04:20:59] <cmn32480> I have nfi what you are referring to mrcoolbp
[04:21:24] <cmn32480> I'm at the point where if it didn't happen in the last 1 or 15 min... I am totally lost
[04:21:52] <cmn32480> i think we discussed ti last night and we are going to carefully use the stack stories
[04:22:03] <cmn32480> but don't quote me on that
[04:22:17] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: oh my bad it was bytram who had pinged
[04:22:27] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: hi!
[04:22:30] <cmn32480> #smake bytram
[04:22:38] <mrcoolbp> hey man, what was the proposal Bytram?
[04:23:31] <Bytram> in a nutshell, we do not run ANY political stories unless there's a clear technical side to it.
[04:23:40] <Bytram> Skip the primaries, caucuses, etc.
[04:23:58] <Bytram> maybe the *final* election results would be okay.
[04:24:17] <Bytram> imagine, if you would, if we covered every polticl race in india.
[04:24:20] <Bytram> and china
[04:24:22] <Bytram> and germany
[04:24:25] <Bytram> and england
[04:24:33] <Bytram> and... yeha, you get the point
[04:24:41] <mrcoolbp> yeah it's a tough one because it's of "general interest" to people (most of our readers are us-based) but I get the argument against
[04:26:08] <Bytram> if you scoll back to gungnirsniper (sp?) you'll see he mentioned having a story in the submission queue about carly dropping out of the race
[04:26:27] <Bytram> (just under 3hrs ago)
[04:26:38] <cmn32480> Carly adn Christie
[04:26:43] <Bytram> nod nod
[04:27:40] <cmn32480> bytram - can I fix times on two stories that are going out 2 min apart? both are yours
[04:27:52] <Bytram> huh... hold on
[04:28:01] <cmn32480> 6:06 and 6:08
[04:28:15] <Bytram> I'm on it. GOOD CATCH!
[04:28:32] <cmn32480> I was gonna move the second one when I 2nded it
[04:29:29] <Bytram> move legal breakthrough to 15:51
[04:29:42] <cmn32480> will do
[04:30:16] <cmn32480> I hope that is the worst mistake we make today!
[04:30:36] <Bytram> agreed!
[04:32:24] <cmn32480> Added original study link to one story
[04:32:27] <cmn32480> forget which
[04:34:22] <NotSanguine> bytram: the link you posted sent me here: https://www-ssl.intel.com
[04:34:23] <snowfire> ^ 03Intel: Tablet, 2in1, Laptop, Desktop, Smartphone, Server, Embedded
[04:34:35] <Bytram> orly?
[04:34:37] <Bytram> ugh
[04:34:43] <NotSanguine> ISn't it the same article I linked anyway?
[04:35:17] <NotSanguine> that is: https://www.cs.utexas.edu
[04:35:28] <cmn32480> ~gnight everybody
[04:35:30] * exec cohesively pours a cheap plastic cup of spew for everybody
[04:35:36] <mrcoolbp> gnight cmn32480!
[04:35:39] <Bytram> kinda. contents are basically the same, but the one I sent you was directly from thepages of 'Electronics, Volumne 38, Number 8, April 19, 1965'
[04:35:45] <Bytram> cmn32480: g'night!
[04:35:53] <cmn32480> night mrcoolbp bytram!
[04:36:07] <NotSanguine> gotcha. I'll see if I can make your link work
[04:38:11] <Bytram> no joy for me, so far
[04:39:26] <NotSanguine> I can't seem to find it on the Intel site. Checking elsewhere
[04:39:57] <Bytram> confirmed: looks to have been removed from intel web site
[04:40:20] <NotSanguine> This ought to do the trick, methinks: http://www.monolithic3d.com
[04:40:50] <takyon> ar eyou trying to cite a 1965 paper?
[04:41:48] <takyon> "HEY LISTEN TO ME"
[04:41:54] <takyon> shout at them, that will earn their respect
[04:42:10] <Bytram> takyon: trying to find an original version of the paper in which "Moore's Law" was first presented
[04:42:17] <takyon> oops wrong channel
[04:42:20] <takyon> ok
[04:42:23] <takyon> i'll look for it
[04:42:26] <takyon> you just want the PDF?
[04:43:52] <NotSanguine> Takyon: looking for the paper to reference in the Moore's Law article from Ars
[04:44:06] <Bytram> i downloaded it before, but the place I D/Led it from no longer hosts the copy
[04:44:22] <Bytram> you'd think Intel would take better care of its stuff!
[04:44:22] <takyon> http://www.cs.utexas.edu
[04:44:26] <NotSanguine> Not sure why we can't use the PDF, since I'm explaining it too
[04:44:38] <takyon> that's the paper that wikipedia links
[04:44:40] <NotSanguine> yeah, I saw that, but it's a reprint from 1998
[04:44:59] <NotSanguine> This appears to be the original http://www.monolithic3d.com
[04:44:59] <Bytram> that's a MUCH more recent article
[04:45:15] <takyon> it's the original text though
[04:45:21] <takyon> the 1998 reprint is the same text AFAIK
[04:45:31] <Bytram> ooops, crossed wires there... checking 2ndlink
[04:45:42] <NotSanguine> Right, but why not use the original since I found it?
[04:46:23] <Bytram> yes, this link: http://www.monolithic3d.com points to a copy of the same file that I was looking for
[04:46:38] <Bytram> shame on Intel for not maintaining such an important document!
[04:48:39] <NotSanguine> It is sad, yes. It's probably still there, but whoever is curating the site is incompetent
[04:48:54] <NotSanguine> Hanlon's razor and all that
[04:51:31] * Bytram wonders if Hanlon was a neckbeard
[04:55:09] <takyon> he was when he stopped shaving
[04:56:02] <NotSanguine> Almost as big a neckbeard as William of Ockham.
[05:02:09] <Bytram> calling it a night...
[05:02:15] <Bytram> take care everyone!
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[05:10:23] <NotSanguine> you still around takyon?
[05:10:31] <takyon> yes
[05:10:55] <NotSanguine> I just finished a cut at the Moore's law article. It's okay, but I don't love it..
[05:11:01] <takyon> i
[05:11:03] <NotSanguine> Would you mind taking a gander?
[05:11:05] <takyon> 'll take a look
[05:11:09] <NotSanguine> thanks!
[05:30:25] <takyon> NotSanguine
[05:30:33] <takyon> "Submitted via IRC [Remove this, yes? for Bytram]"
[05:30:41] <takyon> who wrote the majority of the non quote parts, you?
[05:30:51] <NotSanguine> yes
[05:31:18] <takyon> I'll change the author to myself
[05:31:23] <takyon> and then write that you wrote it
[05:31:27] <NotSanguine> check the original submission. It was just the link, the articled title and and the subheadline
[05:31:46] <NotSanguine> BUt if I do that, I can't be the editor.
[05:32:23] <takyon> author = editor
[05:32:36] <takyon> there's a dropdown on the story edit mode
[05:32:39] <takyon> that has your name on it
[05:32:46] <takyon> and the rest of the editors
[05:33:21] <takyon> I've never changed the value before, but I'm sure it will have the intended effect
[05:33:23] <NotSanguine> It was submitted by "Mr. Plow"
[05:33:32] <NotSanguine> which is, apparently, TMB
[05:33:37] <takyon> it's a bot
[05:33:47] <NotSanguine> That's what I figured
[05:34:01] <NotSanguine> So I'll just remove the "For Bytram" bit and leave it
[05:34:19] <NotSanguine> Or are you forcing me to take credit?
[05:34:27] <takyon> http://puu.sh
[05:34:32] <takyon> I mean
[05:34:45] <takyon> the non-quoted portion is substantial
[05:35:24] <NotSanguine> Ohh...that's different. Yeah that should be me, no?
[05:35:54] <takyon> you can see how I have it set up in the screenshot
[05:35:56] <NotSanguine> BUt I didn't submit the article, I just made it ready for publishing
[05:36:10] <takyon> NotSanguine "writes" not "submitted"
[05:36:12] <NotSanguine> yes. It's set to me right now. I can leave that
[05:36:41] <NotSanguine> All right.
[05:36:55] <takyon> ok
[05:37:02] <takyon> so what were your problems with the story
[05:37:27] <takyon> too long?
[05:38:37] <takyon> changing "now those" to "still those:
[05:38:39] <takyon> "
[05:38:59] <NotSanguine> Use what I updated already,please. Not so much thatit's too long,
[05:39:41] <NotSanguine> But there's a lot that isn't included that provides context. I tried to put a bit of that in, but it would really help to read TFA, which no one does
[05:39:57] <takyon> what you already updated? what does that mean? I'm looking at the story, not the submission
[05:40:22] <takyon> i know one piece of extra context I can throw in
[05:40:23] <NotSanguine> I changed it to "NotSanguine Wrote" and
[05:40:37] <NotSanguine> removed the submitted via irc..
[05:40:52] <takyon> i already did all that
[05:40:56] <NotSanguine> Me too. :)
[05:41:01] <takyon> not anymore
[05:41:04] <takyon> well anyway
[05:41:22] <takyon> the context I refer to is the Intel decision to delay Cannonlake 10nm by a year, and put in Kaby Lake
[05:41:53] <NotSanguine> yeah, I thought about including that, but the quotes were already really long
[05:42:05] <takyon> it'll be outside the blockquotes, very short
[05:43:37] <NotSanguine> I can do that, unless you'd prefer to do so
[05:43:53] <takyon> i just saved it
[05:43:55] <takyon> you can check it out now
[05:44:11] <takyon> also fixed AT&Amp;T to AT&T in another story's HEADLINE
[05:44:19] <takyon> not sure how that slipped past the second ed
[05:45:09] <NotSanguine> I'm not seeing the bit about cannonlake
[05:45:38] <takyon> hit the edit button
[05:45:55] <takyon> the copy doesn't refresh within the first 2-3 minutes, you need to click edit to see latest
[05:47:00] <takyon> if we make changes to stories, the old versions are cached for that short amount of time, but when clicking edit you always see the last saved content
[05:47:23] <NotSanguine> Sorry. Was looking in the wrong place
[05:47:54] <NotSanguine> It was there, but I was looking in the middle around "The article goes on to discuss how the industry will focus moving forward:"
[05:48:07] <NotSanguine> My bad
[05:48:07] <takyon> k
[05:48:44] <NotSanguine> So. Are you willing to have this go out with your name on it as editor?
[05:49:20] <NotSanguine> I guess since I'm the "author" I shouldn't approve it, huh?
[05:51:28] <takyon> it's as kosher as it's going to get
[05:51:42] <takyon> get one more person to look at it by tomorrow if you want
[05:52:05] <takyon> i'm putting one story in
[05:52:08] <NotSanguine> Would you set set the release time and set to display?
[05:52:28] <takyon> ok
[05:54:01] <NotSanguine> Takyon: Out of curiosity, why was there discussion about the appropriateness of submissions from "Thestack.com?"
[05:54:30] <takyon> i chose to stick them in quarantine
[05:54:48] <NotSanguine> For what reason?
[05:55:00] <takyon> because it was one single person submitting only from thestack.com, presumably on behalf of thestack.com because their email/homepage was set to it
[05:55:17] <takyon> also the submissions are sent to Slashdot, which I confirmed when I was looking at the firehose there last week
[05:55:35] <NotSanguine> Potential spam/clickbait. Gotcha
[05:55:51] <takyon> if you search my username on slashdot, you can see where i asked users about the site. got some partial responses
[05:56:19] <NotSanguine> I believe you. I try not to visit there unless absolutely necessary.
[05:59:16] <takyon> ok done
[06:00:05] <takyon> updating Fruit and Veg story
[06:00:23] <NotSanguine> I'm looking at that Wooden car story
[06:00:32] <NotSanguine> We can always use a good car story :)
[06:09:19] <takyon> this is weird
[06:09:38] <takyon> the journal that this tomato research was supposedly published in doesn't seem to have any issues past 2010
[06:09:57] <NotSanguine> Uh oh
[06:10:58] <takyon> Agronomy for Sustainable Development is the journal
[06:12:02] <takyon> i left a note
[06:12:04] <NotSanguine> THey moved. Look at the home page. They say they moved in 2011 to here https://www.springer.com
[06:12:07] <snowfire> ^ 03Agronomy for Sustainable Development - Free Access Available
[06:16:47] <takyon> i added a second, year older paper from the same researchers on the same topic
[06:16:50] <takyon> should be sufficient
[06:16:52] <takyon> good night
[06:17:33] <NotSanguine> Cool beans
[06:17:39] <NotSanguine> 'night Takyon
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[15:39:48] <takyon> ~eds
[15:39:49] <exec> editor ping for takyon: janrinok LaminatorX n1 nick martyb Bytram Azrael mrcoolbp cmn32480 coolhand takyon cmn32480|away bytram|away
[15:39:55] <cmn32480> yeah
[15:40:00] <takyon> gravity wave discovery is live, how do you want to handle it
[15:40:07] * cmn32480 makes a note to add notsanguine to that list again
[15:40:09] <takyon> we could move up the old story or make a new one
[15:40:24] <cmn32480> new one referencing the old
[15:40:27] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[15:40:27] <snowfire> ^ 03Gravitational Waves Detected As Black Holes Collide, Scientists Say : The Two-Way : NPR
[15:40:29] <takyon> k
[15:40:34] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[15:40:34] <snowfire> ^ 03Gravitational waves from black holes detected - BBC News
[15:41:09] <takyon> writing it now
[15:43:47] <takyon> they must have been operating under an embargo, NPR and BBC were on it within a minute of each other I think
[15:45:15] <NOtSanguine> Takyon, I would guess that given the rumors they had the articles ready and posted them as soon as their people at the press conference confirmed
[15:45:38] <takyon> they are detailed articles
[15:45:39] <takyon> well
[15:45:41] <takyon> I skimmed
[15:45:45] <takyon> i'm on fast mode
[15:46:10] <NOtSanguine> As it would have been a real faux pas if the announcement was damage to the LIGO due to sonic booms or loud farts
[15:47:13] <NOtSanguine> While it might be good to get something up now, it might be better to wait another ten minutes or so to see what happens at http://apod.nasa.gov
[15:47:13] <snowfire> ^ 03Astronomy Picture of the Day
[15:47:16] <takyon> ok
[15:47:19] <takyon> i need more articles
[15:47:24] <takyon> just to put in a list of alt soruces
[15:47:35] <takyon> there is no real pic, it's a black hole merger!
[15:48:31] <NOtSanguine> I hate liveblogs, but http://live.arstechnica.com
[15:50:48] <takyon> kmkskdfdf
[15:50:50] <takyon> wow really?
[15:50:52] <takyon> heheh
[15:51:05] <takyon> very script heavy, i'm not a fan
[15:51:10] <takyon> but i guess i will chuck it in the list
[15:51:16] <NOtSanguine> Here's another one from the guardian https://www.theguardian.com
[15:51:17] <snowfire> ^ 03Gravitational waves: discovery hailed as breakthrough of the century | Science | The Guardian
[15:52:23] <NOtSanguine> And from Nature http://www.nature.com
[15:52:24] <snowfire> ^ 03Einstein's gravitational waves found at last : Nature News Comment
[15:52:55] <takyon> submitted
[15:53:09] <takyon> i'll edit those in to the list, which is alread ylengthy
[15:53:17] <takyon> s u b m i t t e d
[15:54:38] <NOtSanguine> In case you want one more, here's the NYT. However, it has an annoying video http://www.nytimes.com
[15:54:39] <snowfire> ^ 03( http://www.nytimes.com )
[15:55:14] <takyon> i added a NYT already
[15:55:26] <takyon> but I am prepared to add a separate BBC story that dumbs it down a little
[15:55:31] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[15:55:32] <snowfire> ^ 03Gravitational waves: A triumph for big science - BBC News
[15:56:08] <takyon> crickets
[15:56:32] <takyon> I've got my eye on that Current Editor/Admin Sessions box
[15:56:39] <NOtSanguine> I'll take it
[15:56:54] <takyon> have fun with that dept line
[15:57:34] <NOtSanguine> :)
[15:57:55] <NOtSanguine> I'm going to add in the NASA link
[15:59:07] <takyon> oh, i didn't realize there was a placeholder
[15:59:09] <takyon> gotcha
[15:59:25] <takyon> boy
[15:59:28] <takyon> 12 seconds to go
[15:59:34] <takyon> can'twait
[15:59:59] <takyon> well that was a bit of a letdown
[16:00:14] <takyon> artist's illustration with the data overlaid on top
[16:00:26] <takyon> but at least they were serious about releasing it exactly at 11:00:00
[16:01:28] <takyon> I'd run the story at 16:30 or a little sooner
[16:01:40] <takyon> give a chance for cmn to look at it if he is still around
[16:02:23] <takyon> I would also be in favor of bumping subsequent stories to a little later
[16:05:28] <NOtSanguine> Yes, it was a bit of one. Cool infographic though
[16:05:57] <NOtSanguine> I'm done. Would someone check me, set the story to display and relase?
[16:06:54] <NOtSanguine> takyon, cmn32480: I unchecked display so a review can be done before it goes up
[16:07:05] <takyon> i'm adding an edit
[16:08:45] <takyon> christ i need a synonym for "explainer" or "dumbed down"
[16:09:40] <takyon> i'll go with analysis
[16:11:09] <NOtSanguine> simplified?
[16:11:37] <NOtSanguine> high-level?
[16:11:51] <takyon> i got it
[16:11:55] <takyon> cmn32480
[16:12:00] <takyon> want to make this story go live?
[16:12:04] <NOtSanguine> sweet, sweet drunk talk?
[16:12:13] <NOtSanguine> I'm on it
[16:12:41] <takyon> you have a grammar problem in your dept line
[16:12:51] <takyon> actually i'm not sure
[16:13:02] <takyon> "then" or "than"?
[16:13:50] <NOtSanguine> then
[16:14:04] <takyon> ok
[16:14:13] <NOtSanguine> gravity ripples in space-time -- more gravity, less gravity, no?
[16:14:40] <NOtSanguine> a minute or so now and it's up...are we still go?
[16:15:17] <takyon> yes
[16:16:43] <cmn32480> sorry... job got in the way
[16:17:29] <takyon> oh there's one more thing we might have missed
[16:17:36] <takyon> I think there's a press conference underway
[16:17:41] <takyon> which means, live video... somewhere
[16:17:47] <takyon> http://www.kurzweilai.net
[16:17:48] <snowfire> ^ 03?We have detected gravitational waves? ? LIGO (live press conference) | KurzweilAI
[16:18:04] <takyon> possibly this youtube video/livestream (I have it script blocked at the moment)
[16:18:13] <NOtSanguine> Yes, but https://soylentnews.org
[16:18:14] <snowfire> ^ 03SN comment by [02NotSanguine (285)] (02Score:2)
[16:18:49] <takyon> let me load this kurzweilai thing and we will find out
[16:18:59] <cmn32480> I'm good with it.
[16:19:24] <takyon> yup it's live and working
[16:19:27] <takyon> i'll add it.
[16:19:29] <NOtSanguine> I see it
[16:19:32] <NOtSanguine> Okay.
[16:19:34] <takyon> as a comment or in the summary?
[16:19:46] <cmn32480> in the summary
[16:19:49] <NOtSanguine> I'd put it in the summary
[16:19:53] <takyon> k
[16:19:55] <NOtSanguine> Since it's "breaking"
[16:21:02] <takyon> added it
[16:21:07] <takyon> hit edit button to check
[16:22:01] <takyon> CYKA
[16:22:20] <takyon> man this YouTube live chat is even more cancerous than YouTube comments. that's an achievement
[16:22:41] <cmn32480> shoudl Ligo be LIGO?
[16:22:45] <takyon> idk
[16:22:49] <takyon> it was like that in the bbc article
[16:22:56] <takyon> you know brits and their weird capitalization
[16:23:06] <takyon> the BBC article had it both ways
[16:23:08] <cmn32480> and their site is sl;ashdotted
[16:23:12] <takyon> which?
[16:23:38] <NOtSanguine> all good. Updated
[16:23:51] <NOtSanguine> LIGO
[16:23:59] <NOtSanguine> It's an actonym
[16:24:02] <takyon> ok
[16:24:12] <NOtSanguine> an acronym even. :)
[16:24:15] <takyon> I don't see your change?
[16:25:07] <NOtSanguine> now should be good
[16:25:50] <NOtSanguine> oops. Missed one
[16:25:55] <NOtSanguine> will make sure this time
[16:26:37] <takyon> missed one? there's only one lol
[16:26:41] <takyon> but yes, you got it
[16:29:35] <NOtSanguine> There are two
[16:30:12] <NOtSanguine> one in the opening sentence and one in the blockquote
[16:31:28] <takyon> you don't change the one in the blockquote
[16:31:37] <takyon> unless you square bracket it i guess
[16:31:45] <takyon> i mean, nobody cares, but just sayin'
[16:32:08] <takyon> i see what you mean
[16:32:14] <takyon> i won't say anything if you don't
[16:32:35] <takyon> "Einstein should get the nobel prize for this"
[16:38:24] <NOtSanguine> about what? :)
[16:38:53] <NOtSanguine> Someone is going to get the Nobel for this. I suspect it won't be Albert
[16:39:41] <NOtSanguine> Since he already got one for predicting it
[16:42:09] <takyon> well, they just turned off the stream for whatever reason
[16:42:11] <takyon> kinda lame
[16:44:48] <takyon> edited story to that effect
[16:45:40] <takyon> there may be a BBC stream looking for it
[16:47:33] <takyon> yes, there is. edited article
[16:47:54] <takyon> FUCK they ended that one
[16:49:00] <takyon> so annoying, why would they do this
[16:51:13] <NOtSanguine> And I tried to restart, but was unable to do so. Yuck
[16:52:39] <takyon> checking reuters
[16:52:48] <takyon> http://live.reuters.com
[16:52:50] <snowfire> ^ 03Extra-Terrestrial News | Reuters.com
[16:54:53] <NOtSanguine> I can't play the video
[16:55:00] <takyon> i can
[16:55:08] <takyon> it's flash
[16:55:10] <NOtSanguine> THe NSF says to check back for an archive of the webcase
[16:55:13] <NOtSanguine> cast
[16:55:14] <NOtSanguine> https://www.nsf.gov
[16:55:15] <snowfire> ^ 03LIGO Event Special Report | NSF - National Science Foundation
[16:55:20] <NOtSanguine> I don't use flash
[16:55:32] <NOtSanguine> Because I'm paranoid
[16:55:42] <takyon> like you can't be hacked
[16:55:58] <takyon> locked down Flash is just fine. I have to click to run any flash video
[16:56:01] <NOtSanguine> But just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean that Flash isn't steaming pile of crap
[16:56:23] <takyon> I understand the arguments. I've heard them all before.
[16:56:45] <NOtSanguine> I am not advocating for you or anyone else not to use flash. I choose not to do so.
[16:58:09] <takyon> it looks like the event will legitimately end soon. if it does i'll put that NSF link in
[16:59:49] <NOtSanguine> Sounds good to me.
[17:04:24] <takyon> done
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[20:47:36] <NOtSanguine> Coolhand: This article about the NHTSA/Google https://soylentnews.org is pretty much the same as this one, no? https://soylentnews.org
[20:47:37] <snowfire> ^ 03Error
[20:47:37] <snowfire> ^ 03SN article: Possible Legal Breakthrough for Autonomous Cars in the U.S. 04(9 comments)
[20:49:01] <takyon> i'm sure you're wrong
[20:49:28] <takyon> oh it's from the same day
[20:49:30] <takyon> tsk tsk
[20:51:01] <Bytram> teamwork++
[20:51:01] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 74
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[21:33:18] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[21:33:19] <snowfire> ^ 0330 percent of science teachers give misinformation about climate change | Ars Technica
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[21:35:35] <Bytram> whereto: http://www.reuters.com
[21:35:36] <snowfire> ^ 03Google to scrub web search results more widely to soothe EU objections| Reuters
[21:35:42] <Bytram> same place? oka.
[21:39:46] <takyon> there is a thestack.com sub for that one
[21:51:09] <Bytram> takyon: I intend to delete the Carly Fiorina and Chris Christie resigning from the presidential race story
[21:51:12] <Bytram> do you concur?
[21:51:22] <Bytram> ed comment is currently 'NOPE'
[21:52:53] <Bytram> seems there are no objections
[21:53:03] <Bytram> click
[21:54:22] <cmn32480> did you put a reason in the box that everybody wanted?
[21:54:27] <cmn32480> or send the user a message explaining?
[21:55:04] <Bytram> oops!
[21:55:27] * Bytram clicks back in his browser
[21:56:25] <Bytram> cmn32480: suggestins on reason?
[21:56:44] <cmn32480> we will not be covering the election this far in advance unless somethign major or tech related happens
[21:56:52] <Bytram> nice!
[21:57:06] <cmn32480> people dropping out isn't really a big deal 9 months in advance
[21:57:19] <cmn32480> hillary drops out? HUGE news
[21:57:42] <Bytram> We will not be covering the US election this far in advance unless something major happens or it is tech related
[21:57:44] <cmn32480> Bernie gets hit by a truck driven by Chelsea Clinton? SUPER HUGE news
[21:58:13] <Bytram> how about Bernie hits a truck driven by Chelsea?
[21:58:17] <cmn32480> The goevernor of the armpit of America dropping out? meh who cares
[21:58:18] <Bytram> =)
[21:59:31] <Bytram> I had done the delete from the submissions queue -- just clicked the checkbox and then 'delete' button; thanks for hte reminder!
[22:02:21] <takyon> you were able to give a deletion reason even though you already deleted it?
[22:15:54] <Bytram> yep! I hit back in my browser (to return to an earlier version of the submission queue) and opened the submission from there.
[22:16:16] <Bytram> IFAI can tell, the submission is not really deleted, per se, just marked as not visible.
[22:21:53] <takyon> so it's like you're adding a deletion note to a submission that has been removed from the submission list
[22:22:07] <takyon> can you link to one that has a deletion reason so I can see where it is displayed?
[22:38:28] <Bytram> sry, was in another window.
[22:39:07] <Bytram> afaik, the deletion reason is not displayed to us. it is sent to the user (according to their prefs: none, web, or E-mail)
[22:39:22] <Bytram> once we 'delete it', it is gone from the submissions qwueue
[22:39:39] <takyon> ok