#editorial | Logs for 2015-12-13
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[02:02:59] cmn32480|away is now known as cmn32480
[02:18:50] <Bytram> cmn32480: !!
[02:19:03] <cmn32480> heya Bytram! !
[02:19:13] <Bytram> howz tings?
[02:20:06] <cmn32480> tingz is tired and boogery
[02:20:08] <cmn32480> you?
[02:20:24] <Bytram> I'm a little confused... I was looking at each of the two stories on the climate accord proposal being signed, to see if I should merge them, and now I cannot find either of them in the sub queue...
[02:20:33] <Bytram> have you merged them or something?
[02:20:33] <cmn32480> right
[02:20:38] <cmn32480> I'm working them now
[02:20:50] <Bytram> did you merge them into one story?
[02:21:03] <cmn32480> uh huh
[02:21:22] <Bytram> ima thinking it hsould go out under breaking news... what do you think?
[02:21:33] <cmn32480> should be listed at the bottom of the sub queue as merge: cmn32480......
[02:21:38] <cmn32480> nah
[02:21:40] <cmn32480> just news
[02:22:13] <Bytram> just preventing the end of the world as we know it, no biggee!
[02:22:15] <Bytram> ;)
[02:22:25] <cmn32480> but I'm one off those people who thinks we use breaking news too often
[02:22:32] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:22:54] <cmn32480> Ii don't see it as an urgent thing
[02:23:00] * Bytram checks the story queue
[02:23:02] <cmn32480> that the accord was signed isn't gonna change tomorrow
[02:23:22] <Bytram> looks like it'll go out soon in the normal course of things... no need to rush it to gain what 4-5 hours?
[02:23:40] <cmn32480> exactly
[02:23:51] <cmn32480> ~weather miami
[02:23:53] <exec> 10Miami, FL, USA - currently 77°F / 25°C, partly cloudy, wind NE at 17 mph, humidity 76% - Saturday partly cloudy (73°F:80°F / 23°C:27°C), Sunday showers (74°F:81°F / 23°C:27°C), Monday mostly sunny (72°F:83°F / 22°C:28°C), Tuesday scattered showers (72°F:82°F / 22°C:28°C)
[02:24:17] <Bytram> looks to be a bit warmer than your normal environment...
[02:24:24] <Bytram> be sure to bring your swim trunks!
[02:24:48] <cmn32480> too late.
[02:24:54] <cmn32480> am already here... and didn't bring them
[02:25:04] <cmn32480> but I have enjoyed watching the girls who did!
[02:25:06] <Bytram> oh, oh.
[02:25:16] <cmn32480> ~weather
[02:25:18] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 58°F / 14°C, mostly cloudy, wind S at 0 mph, humidity 81% - Saturday partly cloudy (51°F:64°F / 11°C:18°C), Sunday partly cloudy (55°F:68°F / 13°C:20°C), Monday rain (55°F:63°F / 13°C:17°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (44°F:59°F / 7°C:15°C)
[02:25:30] <Bytram> could always pick up a spare pair of trunks, right?
[02:25:40] * Bytram spent a week in miami many years ago.
[02:25:40] <cmn32480> not worth it
[02:25:58] <cmn32480> too much family around
[02:26:05] * Bytram is still amazed that one could go into the ocean to swim without having one's teeth chatter and skin turn blue.
[02:26:08] <cmn32480> no time to go swimming
[02:26:19] <cmn32480> amazing, no?
[02:26:26] <Bytram> too bad, sorry to hear it.
[02:26:48] <cmn32480> it's ok
[02:26:48] <Bytram> wake a flight back the NEXT day?
[02:26:57] <cmn32480> Monday
[02:27:01] <cmn32480> wedding is tomorrow
[02:27:10] <cmn32480> and it is too expensive to change the damn flight now
[02:27:13] <cmn32480> I looked inot it
[02:27:24] <Bytram> darn
[02:27:36] <Bytram> unrelated, but any idea of how large the US national debt is?
[02:27:47] <cmn32480> well if J hadn't decided that she wasn't feeling well enough to come a little earlier....
[02:27:47] <Bytram> $6? $9? trillion
[02:28:16] <cmn32480> http://www.usdebtclock.org
[02:28:17] <PointerCache> ^ 03U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
[02:28:49] <Bytram> thnks!
[02:28:55] <cmn32480> np
[02:31:17] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org - On June 30, 2015, debt held by the public was $13.08 trillion or about 74% of the previous 12 months of GDP. Intragovernmental holdings stood at $5.07 trillion, giving a combined total gross national debt of $18.15 trillion or about 102% of the previous 12 months of GDP.
[02:31:18] <PointerCache> ^ 03Wiki: National debt of the United States
[02:32:20] <cmn32480> according to the site I linked, it is almost 19 trillion
[02:32:34] <Bytram> $18.15 trillion / $167 million = ?? hmmmm
[02:32:53] <Bytram> 18150 billion / 167 million
[02:32:59] <Bytram> 18150000 million / 167 million
[02:33:00] <cmn32480> run calc
[02:33:05] <cmn32480> in windows
[02:33:07] <cmn32480> built in
[02:33:52] <Bytram> 18150000 million / 167 million
[02:34:09] <Bytram> 108682.63473053
[02:34:43] <chromas> ciri also does calculations :D and GameServ
[02:35:09] <cmn32480> yeah.... let's trust ciri
[02:35:18] <Bytram> would take over 108 kg of endohedral fullerenes to pay off national debt, at $167 million per gram
[02:35:18] * cmn32480 thinks maybe not
[02:36:15] <Bytram> or, to put it another way... 1 penny 'weighs' 3.11 grams... or over $1 billion.
[02:36:32] <Bytram> oops, 2 pennies would be over $1 billion
[02:37:03] * cmn32480 hands bytram some more straws to grab
[02:39:55] <Bytram> sry, connection dropped, again. prolly need to reboot, seems to drop every hour or so.
[02:40:15] <Bytram> uptime is: 21d 11h 25m 07s
[02:40:29] <Bytram> break time, biab
[02:40:36] <cmn32480> for windows? that's prettty good!
[02:40:45] <cmn32480> don't forget to install windows updates!
[02:40:54] <Bytram> I do, selectively.
[03:02:11] <Bytram> cmn32480: heads up: I just put the FM radio article out for 15:17
[03:02:40] <cmn32480> why?
[03:02:55] <cmn32480> the elsevier article was already set to go at 15L26
[03:03:30] <Bytram> k, I'll change mine. no biggee.
[03:04:28] <cmn32480> if it shows in the preview pane on the right, the article has been saved, it is likely not going to change
[03:04:57] <cmn32480> in that pane, I can't see what times you are selecting before you save, but if you see an article there, it is in the story queue already
[03:06:07] <Bytram> not quite... I cna change a time on a story I'm working on and it will reflect immediately in the list... and that's befoer I save the story... each time I click update, it's location is moved appropriately
[03:06:25] <cmn32480> it shows for you
[03:06:44] <Bytram> k, what do you currently see int he 'Story Admin' sidebar
[03:06:45] <cmn32480> if the story hasn't been saved, it doens't show for anyone but the editor working on it
[03:07:10] <Bytram> that's news to me.
[03:07:16] * Bytram ponders for a moment
[03:07:50] <cmn32480> that is why, particularly when there are more than one of us working at a given time, always preview adn check times as the last step
[03:07:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:08:15] <cmn32480> took me long time to figure that out
[03:08:21] <Bytram> that's what I try to do, find the last time on a story there and the add the appropriate delta.
[03:08:56] <cmn32480> i do the same thing, but always as the last step to avoid stuff like this
[03:08:59] <Bytram> or, keep a tab open to the story queue, and refresh it and adjust release time accordingly.
[03:09:05] <Bytram> yuppers
[03:09:30] <cmn32480> and always preview one last time before saving
[03:09:36] <Bytram> yes!
[03:09:44] <cmn32480> cuz I screw up the times a lot
[03:09:56] <Bytram> all too easy to fat-finger the date/time and have the story disappear into the bottom of the queue.
[03:10:03] <cmn32480> yup
[03:10:45] * cmn32480 admits to doing that pretty regularly
[03:10:51] <cmn32480> and then having to go find it
[03:11:15] * Bytram does not recall doing that recently, but has a few stories at queue's end to prove he is fallible
[03:11:44] <Bytram> undo close tab, and/or hit back in browser
[03:11:45] <cmn32480> thoughts on that last piece of political trash from gewg_?
[03:11:57] <Bytram> is not so bad.
[03:12:01] <Bytram> is in queue alrady
[03:12:31] <Bytram> provides an excellent visualization that even joe sixpack can understand
[03:12:42] <cmn32480> oh good
[03:12:46] <cmn32480> you split the FM radio story
[03:12:56] <cmn32480> i was thinking same
[03:13:52] <Bytram> glad you agree~
[03:13:56] <Bytram> glad you agree!
[03:14:15] <cmn32480> we have to agree on SOMETHING!
[03:14:18] * Bytram is starting to pick up cmn32480's typoing skills
[03:14:27] <cmn32480> contagious is it?
[03:14:33] <cmn32480> excelletn
[03:14:46] * cmn32480 thinks his plan for wolrd domination is progressing nicely
[03:15:28] <cmn32480> I believe that zz_janrinok calls my typoing "rubbish"
[03:15:33] <Bytram> fyi squid story, 'technical names' of species are generally foreign words and should be displayed in EMphasized text: <em>T. danae</em>
[03:15:50] <Bytram> lol
[03:15:57] <cmn32480> you are coorect
[03:16:00] * Bytram is 2nding the last of your stories
[03:16:04] <cmn32480> want me to fix?
[03:16:37] <cmn32480> speaking of rubbish... I'll 2nd gewg_'s governator story
[03:17:01] <Bytram> already fixed... was a FYI
[03:17:10] <cmn32480> :-)
[03:17:13] <cmn32480> bytram++
[03:17:13] <Bender> karma - bytram: 24
[03:17:19] <Bytram> =)
[03:17:22] <Bytram> cmn32480++
[03:17:23] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 25
[03:17:51] <Bytram> 2nding doen.
[03:17:54] <Bytram> *done
[03:17:56] <cmn32480> yup yup
[03:18:03] <cmn32480> I'm gonna be mia all day tomorrow
[03:18:05] * Bytram needs to be at work at 0745 tomorrow.
[03:18:19] <cmn32480> I will check in in the am before the wedding, but no guarantees
[03:18:34] <cmn32480> after the wedding, there will probably be more family stuff to be done.
[03:19:00] <cmn32480> you shoudl get some rest
[03:19:04] <cmn32480> so should I
[03:19:10] <cmn32480> but I gotta iron my shirt
[03:19:20] * cmn32480 almost forgot the r
[03:19:30] * Bytram had a coworker call out sick yesterday and I volunteered to stay late (9pm) completely forgetting that we had an unusually early opening that day -- instead of having to be at work around 9am, I was there at 7am... and I actually ended up leafing at 9:30pm -- so, a 14.5 hr day.
[03:19:41] <Bytram> I think it is catching up with me and am getting tired.
[03:19:43] <Bytram> nograb
[03:19:44] <cmn32480> woof
[03:20:00] <Bytram> meow?
[03:20:05] <cmn32480> neigh?
[03:20:18] <cmn32480> ~moo
[03:20:19] <exec> (__)
[03:20:19] <exec> (oo)
[03:20:19] <exec> /------\/
[03:20:19] <exec> / | ||
[03:20:20] <exec> * /\---/\
[03:20:21] <exec> ~~ ~~
[03:20:21] <exec> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
[03:20:45] <cmn32480> yeah... I gotta get my pants and shirt ironed... then bed
[03:20:51] <Bytram> curds and whey OR curse and weigh
[03:20:58] <cmn32480> seecond one
[03:21:01] <Bytram> quack
[03:21:08] * cmn32480 ducks
[03:21:25] <Bytram> ouch!
[03:21:44] <cmn32480> but you laughed
[03:22:01] <Bytram> well, that was actually good... chuckled so hard was able to cough up a good bunch of phlegm... have been fighting a nasty cold (or somesuch) for about two weeks now.)
[03:22:10] <cmn32480> same as J
[03:22:21] <cmn32480> hers is going on 3 weeks... it is ugly
[03:22:36] <cmn32480> illness and fatigue go together
[03:22:41] <cmn32480> go to bed
[03:22:43] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:22:48] <Bytram> sounds liek a plan
[03:22:53] <cmn32480> agreed
[03:23:00] <Bytram> and you? how late do YOUplan to stay up?
[03:23:02] <cmn32480> sweet dreams buy-tram
[03:23:16] <cmn32480> till I get my pants and shirt ironed
[03:23:22] <cmn32480> then zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[03:23:49] <Bytram> nice chatting and working with ya... hope you have a good day tomorrow and a safe journey home!
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[03:23:58] <cmn32480> thanks bytram
[03:24:02] <cmn32480> safe day
[03:24:05] <cmn32480> get some rest
[03:24:14] <cmn32480> watch out for all the idiots!
[03:24:15] <Bytram|away> tanks! laters.
[03:24:20] <Bytram|away> ewe two!
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[13:18:41] <cmn32480|away> just a heads up - headed for a family wedding. Gonna be MIA for the next 12-16 hours.
[13:19:32] <nick> have fun with that!
[13:19:44] <cmn32480|away> <finger>
[13:20:10] <cmn32480|away> this may turn into the go back to the house after the reception for family time ting
[13:20:21] <cmn32480|away> if not, I will likeyl have to go out fo rdinner w/ my parents
[13:20:37] <cmn32480|away> either way, getting back to my hotel tonight will likely be a late affair
[13:20:45] <nick> catch 22?
[13:20:59] <cmn32480|away> yeah
[13:21:07] <cmn32480|away> don't get me wrong, I like this side of the family.
[13:21:21] <cmn32480|away> when they are all talking to each other the are a lot of fun
[13:22:19] <cmn32480|away> so on that note, I gotta get dressed, eat and get out ot SouthBeach
[13:22:22] <nick> family is a strange thing, you can't choose them. i enjoy spending time with most of my family, but they're not the most wild bunch.
[13:22:50] * nick hat tip
[13:22:51] <cmn32480|away> I read this in a novel once.
[13:22:52] <nick> take care
[13:23:05] <cmn32480|away> "Home is where when you go there, they have to take you in."
[13:23:37] <cmn32480|away> family is pretty much the same thing
[13:23:58] <cmn32480|away> so on that note, I'ma shut down my laptop and get rolling.
[13:24:14] <cmn32480|away> and to make it all better, I'm on cold medicine, so minimal to no drinking for me!
[13:24:52] <nick> good luck
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