#editorial | Logs for 2015-10-01
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[03:03:59] <takyon> who's around
[03:04:32] <takyon> there was some grade A butthurt on the Mars story. see comments or original submission for more details
[03:04:59] <takyon> checking story list, looks good
[03:05:06] <takyon> submitting fossil story
[03:17:03] <takyon> submitted
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[12:28:53] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[12:29:54] <Bytram> takyon: /me reads original submission on mars story... Oh. That's what the comments were about! Humor on the internet can be indistinguishable from trolling.
[12:41:49] <cmn32480> my screw up
[12:43:28] zz_janrinok_afk is now known as janrinok
[12:44:29] <janrinok> hi guys
[12:45:10] <janrinok> takyon: good work in fixing that Mars story.
[12:45:37] * cmn32480 falls on his sword
[12:45:51] * janrinok get cloth to clean sword with
[12:45:58] <janrinok> cmn32480: !!
[12:46:10] <cmn32480> janrinok !!
[12:46:28] <janrinok> My quote from 48 hrs ago - "We all release bad stories from time to time...."
[12:46:44] <cmn32480> came back to bite me in the ass.
[12:47:12] <janrinok> don't sweat it - I 2nd'ed it and didn't see the problem
[12:48:20] <cmn32480> brb
[12:50:00] <Bytram> janrinok: things are good, all in all for me, how are you doing?
[12:50:30] <janrinok> good here to, finished my daily chores (apart from baking some bread) and sat in front of my computers
[12:50:35] <janrinok> too*
[12:50:48] <Bytram> fresh bread? Yummy!!
[12:51:08] <Bytram> yeasty smells wafting through your home -- sounds absolutely delightful!
[12:51:31] <Bytram> put a little fresh preserves on it and nirvana
[12:51:54] <janrinok> exactly
[12:52:21] <janrinok> 2nd loaf of the day goes in shortly
[12:53:04] <Bytram> I worked late last night but have today and the morrow off; plan to take a nap (or two!) and try to catch up on some long-neglected housecleaning.
[12:53:06] <janrinok> this one is gluten free which is a little trickier to make successfully, but I've been doing it now for several years so I think I have it hacked
[12:53:14] <Bytram> nice!
[12:53:30] <Bytram> that's make getting the texture right quite a bit more difficult, if I understand correctly?
[12:53:43] <Bytram> that makes*
[12:53:45] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:53:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 30
[12:53:50] <Bytram> brb
[12:53:52] * janrinok pictures Bytram in an apron with a feather duster, or perhaps like the Queen video
[12:54:15] * Bytram wonders why anyone would want to dust a feather?
[12:54:17] <Bytram> =)
[12:54:23] <janrinok> yes, both texture and keeping it risen during the bake :)
[12:54:59] * janrinok can't abide all those dusty feathers. Knocking birds out of the sky with a tennis racquet in order to dust them all
[13:01:04] <Bytram> lol!
[13:01:50] <Bytram> would be easier to use a really big fan to blow off the dust... maybe feed power *into* one of those wind turbines? ;)
[13:03:13] <Bytram> j/k
[13:03:58] * janrinok goes to look for a really big fan
[13:03:59] <Bytram> http://www.nytimes.com
[13:04:00] <Schwifty> ^ 03( http://www.nytimes.com )
[13:04:13] <Bytram> http://www.nytimes.com
[13:04:30] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[13:04:30] <Schwifty> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[13:04:46] <Bytram> whew! thought I might have broken schwifty for a moment, there.
[13:05:02] * Bytram is a big fan of janrinok =)
[13:05:05] <janrinok> no, interesting link
[13:05:59] * Bytram has something like 50 tabs open -- looks like my housekeeping needs to start on-line
[13:06:16] <janrinok> lol
[13:08:48] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[13:08:49] <Schwifty> ^ 03Mechanism of explosions and plasma jets associated with sunspot formation revealed -- ScienceDaily
[13:09:23] <Bytram> http://www.securityweek.com
[13:09:23] <Schwifty> ^ 03Cookies Render HTTPS Sessions Vulnerable to Data Leaks | SecurityWeek.Com
[13:09:34] <Bytram> http://www.kb.cert.org
[13:09:35] <Schwifty> ^ 03Vulnerability Note VU#804060 - Cookies set via HTTP requests may be used to bypass HTTPS and reveal private information
[13:09:58] <janrinok> Bytram: have you written your own version of Arthur?
[13:10:05] <Bytram> nope
[13:10:44] <Bytram> those were some links I had in browser tabs... posting them here before closing the tab, in case others found them interesting
[13:11:35] <janrinok> ah, k
[13:12:35] <Bytram> i've gtg; phone call coming.
[13:12:42] <Bytram> back soon, I hope.
[13:12:55] <Bytram> away
[13:15:29] <cmn32480> back
[13:24:32] <janrinok> front
[13:26:43] <cmn32480> side
[13:26:48] <janrinok> top
[13:37:21] <cmn32480> bottom
[13:37:40] <janrinok> how's the family?
[13:44:02] <cmn32480> sorry.. i keep getting puleld in 15 directions
[13:44:07] <cmn32480> family is good
[13:44:15] <janrinok> that what work is about, unfortunately
[13:44:19] <cmn32480> glad I am home mostly with the hurricane coming
[13:44:26] <janrinok> but good to hear the fam are ok
[13:44:34] <cmn32480> it is either that or pounding my head on the desk :-)
[13:44:41] <janrinok> not heard the hurricane news here
[13:45:07] <cmn32480> I expect it won't hit there if it is going to hit here.
[13:45:17] <cmn32480> if it was, that';d be one HELLUVA big storm!
[13:45:51] <janrinok> we don't get that sort of weather here - ever!
[13:47:55] <cmn32480> awww... it jsut adds a little spice to life!
[13:48:11] <janrinok> the sort of spice we can do without, thankyou very much
[13:48:23] <cmn32480> hehehe
[13:48:31] <cmn32480> yeah.. I gotta get the generator set up, jic
[13:48:38] <janrinok> good idea
[13:49:00] * janrinok needs to keep cmn posting stories - no matter what the weather
[13:49:20] <cmn32480> but onl;y good ones, right?
[13:50:39] <janrinok> preferably ;)
[13:52:07] <cmn32480> so I have it backerds? quantity over quality, right?
[13:54:04] <janrinok> no - quality is the aim, mediocrity is what I often produce
[13:54:20] <cmn32480> welcome to the club!
[13:54:39] <janrinok> but at least I am good at producing mediocrity
[13:55:00] <cmn32480> so you produce quality mediocrity is what you are saying?
[13:55:33] <janrinok> only the best in mediocrity is good enough!
[13:55:51] <cmn32480> well said!
[13:56:12] <janrinok> I feel I should have an aim in life
[13:56:57] <cmn32480> aim low and you will never be disappointed!
[13:57:07] <janrinok> well, sometimes I miss ....
[13:59:35] <janrinok> I guess gewg_'s latest marijuana story is looking like Sunday fodder...
[13:59:51] <cmn32480> yup
[14:00:24] <cmn32480> sorry for slacking last night... after the funeral I dind't feel like doing much
[14:00:54] <janrinok> not surprised. You are pulling your weight and then some, so apologies not expected nor required
[14:01:10] <cmn32480> I know... but still
[14:01:23] <janrinok> was it just an acquaintance or family?
[14:01:29] <cmn32480> really depressing to go to a funeral for a guy who was 48 years old
[14:01:32] <cmn32480> neighbor
[14:01:59] <janrinok> very sad, he probably thought that he was only half way through his life
[14:02:04] <cmn32480> they think it was a heart attack or an anyeurism(sp?)
[14:02:11] <cmn32480> very
[14:02:23] <janrinok> at least that is quick
[14:02:28] <cmn32480> 3 daughters... oldest is a sophomore in college
[14:03:38] <janrinok> my thoughts are with his family
[14:03:40] <cmn32480> yeah... makes you think
[14:03:44] <cmn32480> mine too
[14:04:54] <cmn32480> so after the funeral I went home and just hugged on the one kid that was around
[14:04:56] <janrinok> I had to look up sophomore in wiki, and it says that 'Sophomore is not used in British English... A Brit will not usually know what this term means
[14:05:09] <cmn32480> sorry
[14:05:13] <cmn32480> 2nd year at university
[14:05:20] <janrinok> yep - wiki explains it all
[14:05:50] <cmn32480> so enough of being a sad sack
[14:05:53] <janrinok> there is also the question of what can anyone do to help
[14:06:11] <cmn32480> unknown
[14:06:29] <janrinok> Nice of you to attend though, that will have provided some comfort
[14:06:29] <cmn32480> I hope that she will reach out as needed
[14:06:38] <cmn32480> the church was pretty full
[14:06:52] <cmn32480> lots of kids (friedns of the 3 daughters
[14:07:20] <janrinok> well, that is also nice to see. The young ones will also provide their own support to the daughters
[14:07:37] <cmn32480> I let her know that if she needed anything that I coudl help wiht to please let us know... home repairs, etc. that Mark used to do
[14:07:52] <janrinok> although their memories will fade more quickly that those of his daughters
[14:08:11] <janrinok> good for you
[14:08:27] <janrinok> and what pleasures face you at work today
[14:09:01] <janrinok> queues good for another 12 hours
[14:09:13] <cmn32480> thanks much
[14:09:42] <cmn32480> you know why you go to other people's funerals, right?
[14:09:53] <janrinok> do tell...
[14:10:08] <cmn32480> so that other people will go to yours
[14:10:14] <cmn32480> hows that for morbid?
[14:10:32] <janrinok> good black humour - something I like
[14:11:17] <cmn32480> depoends on the settign
[14:11:24] <cmn32480> we were doing a job for a coroners office
[14:11:33] <cmn32480> THAT was a day of really black humor
[14:11:39] <janrinok> I had lived in this village for a couple of years, but it wasn't until I attended a local funeral that I became part of the community
[14:12:07] <cmn32480> exactly
[14:12:14] <janrinok> same in the military. lots of very dark humour there, probably to stop oneself descending into despair
[14:12:31] <cmn32480> probably... either laugh or cry. you choose
[14:13:08] <janrinok> one of my favourites - I guy on the battlefield stands on a mine and begins screaming - I've lost my leg, my leg, its gone.
[14:13:33] <janrinok> His buddy replies - you're ok mate, it's over there pointing to the distance
[14:14:16] <janrinok> not very well told on IRC but blame me for that...
[14:16:15] <cmn32480> ok. blame has been laid at your feet
[14:16:17] <Bytram> greetings fellow editors
[14:16:23] <janrinok> Bytram: lo again
[14:16:25] * Bytram just caught up on backscroll
[14:16:30] <Bytram> {{{ cmn32480 }}}
[14:17:06] <Bytram> That was a mighty fine thing you did showing up at the funeral.
[14:17:44] <cmn32480> cmn32480> you know why you go to other people's funerals, right?
[14:17:52] <cmn32480> <cmn32480> so that other people will go to yours
[14:18:39] <Bytram> When my grandma passed, many many years ago, I was surprised to see a neighbor from right next door to my parents attend the funeral. Nobody had told her about it. She apparently saw the listing in the obituaries and just showed up. I cannot even begin to tell you how much that touched me.
[14:19:27] <Bytram> I knew, then, that there is more out there than I am aware of -- that just because I don't see it, does not necessarily mean it is not there.
[14:19:55] <Bytram> even now, it chokes me up a bit to think about it.
[14:20:01] <janrinok> Bytram: did you have to bring the onions in here?
[14:20:16] <Bytram> so sorry, next time I'll bring leeks
[14:20:20] <janrinok> lol
[14:20:26] <Bytram> it's what happens to the eyes, right?
[14:20:31] <janrinok> yep
[14:20:32] <Bytram> aye!
[14:20:47] <Bytram> and, if I may, another vignette...
[14:21:04] <janrinok> it's Thursday - and that makes it Pizza Day! and a beer!
[14:21:19] <janrinok> sry
[14:21:22] <Bytram> years ago, I got a message on my answering machine about an acquaintance who had taken sick and passed away the same day.
[14:21:47] <Bytram> She had been diagnosed with AIDS and given one year to live -- 13 years prior.
[14:22:05] <Bytram> was on vacation, caught pneumonia, and that took her life the same day.
[14:22:34] <Bytram> we were not very close, but we saw the world pretty much the exact same way -- a kindred spirit,if you will.
[14:22:50] <Bytram> went to the wake the next day, and then the funeral the day after.
[14:23:07] <Bytram> her partner was busted up all out of shape... nearly inconsolable
[14:23:14] <janrinok> now, wakes, that something I will raise a glass to
[14:23:26] <Bytram> I, having not been quite as close, was able to ...
[14:23:26] <Bytram> ummm
[14:23:53] <Bytram> accept my grief relatively quickly and then was able toreach out to her in a way that she KNEW I understood how she felt.
[14:24:27] <Bytram> I saw that my attending may have been for the dead, but I was able to help the living, too.
[14:24:42] <Bytram> that Saturday, my mom was rushed to the hospital
[14:25:05] <Bytram> spent two weeks going between the ICU and the CCU (Intensive/Critical Care Units)
[14:25:22] <Bytram> finally, they got her stabilized, performed surgery, and she did not recover.
[14:25:38] <Bytram> we got the family together and made the decision to let her go.
[14:25:49] <Bytram> at the funeral, I was an absolute mess.
[14:25:56] <Bytram> but seeing what I had just a couple weeks prior
[14:26:13] <Bytram> I was able to experience the loving, gentle, tender kindness of people who knew me
[14:26:31] <Bytram> I knew it was okay to *feel* not okay, and this was a time to do it.
[14:26:33] <Bytram> to let it out
[14:26:36] <Bytram> to GET it out
[14:26:49] <Bytram> to let others carry me when I was unable to make it alone.
[14:27:10] <Bytram> Even now, many years later, there are times when I get all choked up thinking about her...
[14:27:28] <janrinok> we are here, bud
[14:27:33] <Bytram> and yet, I now have the comfort that the ONLY reason there is a loss, is that I was so blessed to have her in my life!
[14:27:49] <Bytram> It would not hurt were she not so special.
[14:27:56] <Bytram> I am a very fortunate man, indeed.
[14:28:17] <Bytram> sometimes, though, fortune doesn't always feel good.
[14:28:35] <Bytram> yet, having it made it through that experience, I am so much better able to reach out to others who are grieving
[14:29:01] <Bytram> several months later, I was in a position at work selling Lady's Suits and Dresses
[14:29:05] <Bytram> an older couple came in
[14:29:11] <Bytram> she was just a shell of a person
[14:29:26] <Bytram> her husband took her by the hand and just guided her along
[14:29:46] <Bytram> there was a report in the morning paper about a tragedy at a day care
[14:30:01] <Bytram> a young child got away from the staff
[14:30:11] <Bytram> while they were playing in a pool
[14:30:19] <Bytram> and, sadly, drowned.
[14:30:28] <Bytram> this was the child's grandmother.
[14:30:49] <Bytram> I reached out to help her select a dress to wear to the funeral
[14:31:03] <Bytram> and I shared with her how much I grieved my mom's passing
[14:31:20] <Bytram> I could tell she was still numb, but I sensed I had touched her in some way.
[14:31:27] <Bytram> fast forward to today.
[14:31:42] <Bytram> whenever they are in the store, theymake it a point to come over to my department
[14:31:53] <Bytram> she gives me a great big hug and we are great friends!
[14:32:05] <cmn32480> you are a good man, Charlie Brown.
[14:32:19] <Bytram> it's only *because* we *both* had such tremendous losses, that we became such good friends.
[14:32:26] <janrinok> yep - and more onions
[14:32:51] <Bytram> so, I *try* whenever something goes wrong, if I can step back for a bit,
[14:33:10] <Bytram> to try and take the view, that somewhere, someday, that this might somehow be used for good.
[14:33:39] <Bytram> it does not remove the pain, but it validates that there just may be a value to it someday, so just hold on, take comfort that
[14:33:49] <Bytram> others have prolly been through this before,
[14:34:01] <Bytram> that I can reach out to them for support, and in so doing
[14:34:11] <Bytram> validate *their* loss and give them hope, too.
[14:34:29] <Bytram> oh, and about 2-3 years after my mom passed, another co-worker lost her mom.
[14:34:52] <Bytram> because I had shared with her about my mom's passing, she *knew* when she came to me about her loss, that I would understand
[14:35:00] <Bytram> I told her of my experience
[14:35:17] <Bytram> assured her that, some day, her suffering would allow her to, in turn, help someone else
[14:35:32] <Bytram> like me, it took her many months to get over her loss
[14:35:56] <Bytram> and, sure enogh a couple years later -- a friend of hers lost HER mom, and she was able to be there for her firend.
[14:36:09] <Bytram> to see the light in my friend's eyes as she told me of it
[14:36:27] <Bytram> well, I cannot find words -- but if you are following this to this point, they are not necessary.
[14:36:43] * cmn32480 thinks bytram might consider becoming a poet as his next career
[14:36:49] <Bytram> I'm reminded of a quote that I think came from Mark Twain?
[14:37:05] <Bytram> so live your life that when you pass, even the undertaker is saddened for your passing.
[14:37:18] <Bytram> ^^ something like that.
[14:37:24] <cmn32480> you have quite the gift for words bytram.
[14:37:37] <Bytram> thank you.
[14:38:08] <Bytram> it is a story I've shared many times, and thanks to the practice I've gained editing stories here
[14:38:24] <janrinok> that was brilliant to read, moving , thought provoking
[14:38:38] <Bytram> and in being active in an organization that I regularly attend meetings where people share from the heart, and I have done so regularly as well, well
[14:38:43] <Bytram> I hope I've learned a few things
[14:38:44] <Bytram> about
[14:38:51] <Bytram> the dramatic pause
[14:38:53] <Bytram> =)
[14:39:05] <Bytram> and how to share what I am feeling in a way that others can understand.
[14:39:52] <Bytram> thankfully, the pain has mostly passed and I remember the tender moments...
[14:40:04] <Bytram> the wealth of friends she had and how many lives she has touched,
[14:40:17] <Bytram> and how, though in an entirely different career path than I ever intended,
[14:40:24] <Bytram> I am able to reach out to others and to do the same.
[14:40:27] <janrinok> you could submit that to Reader's Digest!
[14:40:48] <Bytram> yikes, if that's the *digest* -- what more could I write?
[14:40:50] <cmn32480> is that magazine still around?
[14:40:58] <janrinok> dunno
[14:41:08] <Bytram> no-eyed deer.
[14:41:15] * cmn32480 remembers my parents having a subscription as a kid
[14:41:19] <Bytram> ;)
[14:41:35] <janrinok> so do I - and I've never met your parents ...
[14:42:02] <Bytram> http://www.rd.com
[14:42:03] <Schwifty> ^ 03Reader’s Digest: Official Site to Subscribe Find Great Reads
[14:42:07] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:42:08] <Schwifty> ^ 03Wiki: Reader's Digest
[14:42:15] <Bytram> looks like it is still around.
[14:42:23] <Bytram> was founded in 1922
[14:42:50] <cmn32480> janrinok - I think you are old enough to be one of my parents
[14:42:58] <janrinok> probably
[14:43:30] <janrinok> but you don't know who I _really_ am, do you?
[14:43:40] <Bytram> but seriously, I'm curious... do you think what I just posted was *that* well written?
[14:43:56] <cmn32480> yes. and quite touching
[14:44:03] <janrinok> not for RD, but for IRC it said it very well indeed
[14:44:17] * Bytram used to tremble at the thought of writing a two-page essay for school.
[14:44:33] <janrinok> I still do - I think my homework is a bit late
[14:44:39] <Bytram> thanks! I appreciate your candid assessment.
[14:44:49] <Bytram> as the saying goes, I'm always the last toknow!
[14:44:56] <Bytram> lol
[14:45:11] <Bytram> okay, time for me to get going about my day....
[14:45:14] * cmn32480 hears janrinok intone "cmn32480, I am your father"
[14:45:18] <Bytram> best to you all and your fmailies!
[14:45:25] <cmn32480> you as well bytram
[14:45:28] <Bytram> thanks
[14:45:29] <cmn32480> don't relax too hard
[14:45:29] <janrinok> and to you and yours Bytram
[14:45:35] <Bytram> merci mon ami
[14:45:47] <Bytram> hardly possible!
[14:45:49] <Bytram> ciao for now
[14:45:57] <janrinok> now, haven't you got chores to do?
[14:45:57] <Bytram> afk
[14:46:03] <Bytram> shhhhhhh!
[14:46:37] <janrinok> I think that is enough feels for one afternoon though.
[14:47:13] <cmn32480> agreed... back to looking for bytram in the french maid uniform with a feather duster
[14:48:20] <janrinok> lol
[14:49:05] * cmn32480 thinks about the beating he would receive for getting one of those for J
[14:49:19] <janrinok> even bigger lol
[14:50:01] * Bytram pulls his head out of his butt
[14:50:10] <janrinok> ?
[14:50:27] <Bytram> cmn32480: that was a long-winded attempt to share with you about my personal loss in hopes that it might provide some conolation for yours.
[14:50:44] <janrinok> and it was taken as such
[14:50:51] <Bytram> if there is *anything* I can do, I've got two ears -- I'm here for you buddy!
[14:51:07] <Bytram> and, hurricane? YIKES!
[14:51:10] <janrinok> we're one hell of a team
[14:51:19] <Bytram> I've been a few of those, too.
[14:51:27] <Bytram> one took out power in the area for over a wek
[14:51:29] <Bytram> *week
[14:51:41] <Bytram> trees down *everywhere*
[14:52:06] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:52:07] <Schwifty> ^ 03Wiki: Hurricane Gloria
[14:52:27] <Bytram> I saw two-hundred year old trees toppled like just so much kindling.
[14:52:45] <Bytram> that was the worst, but I've been few a few other lesser storms.
[14:53:28] <Bytram> Please accept my fervent wish that all will pass okay for you!
[14:53:53] <janrinok> but I don't mind if it rains a bit
[14:56:35] <Bytram> a bit of rain is one thing -- downpours like THAT are another thing, all together!
[14:57:02] <Bytram> had extremely heavy rains yesterday and a LOT of flooding in the area. Most things are back to normal, today, thank goodness!
[14:59:24] <janrinok> we live on a slight hillside - if it floods here I'll be out looking the the 2nd ark which will be turning up anytime soon
[14:59:59] <Bytram> just watch out for animals gathering two-by-two!
[15:00:16] <Bytram> or, if you read a different passage, IIRC, eight by eight!
[15:01:23] <janrinok> well, presumably, someone is already on the ark - so I guess I'll just have to push S on there and start swimming
[15:03:20] * Bytram looks for a source of inexpensive flippers with same-day delivery and free shipping.
[15:03:54] <Bytram> or, you could just wait for 'em to float up to your door and just board the gangway
[15:05:18] <janrinok> lol
[15:06:17] <janrinok> just had to share this: http://i.imgur.com
[15:07:27] <Bytram> ROFL!
[15:07:45] <janrinok> I can relate to that!
[15:08:00] <Bytram> if the shoe fits?
[15:09:24] <cmn32480> sorry guys. am stuck on a call
[15:09:36] <cmn32480> and I remember hurrican Gloria.... I was a kid
[15:09:44] * Bytram hums Blondie's 'Call Me'
[15:10:05] <cmn32480> and I distinctly remember playing monopoly around the dining room table by candle light
[15:10:44] <Bytram> monopoly++
[15:10:44] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 1
[15:10:46] <janrinok> I'm rather glad that we have boring weather here in Fr
[15:11:28] <cmn32480> I wish I had boring weather
[15:12:11] <Bytram> I was living in massachusetts when Gloria hit. We were so fortunate that the storm had subsided before it hit us. I cannot imagine what things would have been like if it had hit with full force!
[15:12:26] <Bytram> cmn32480: which hurricane is coming your way?
[15:12:29] <cmn32480> I was in New Jersey... we got hit face first
[15:12:36] <Bytram> yowza!
[15:12:40] * janrinok is singing 'Gloria - G L O R I A' ...
[15:12:50] <Bytram> LOL!
[15:12:56] <cmn32480> I was about 5 years old
[15:13:44] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:15:09] <cmn32480> I believe it is Jaquime(sp?)
[15:15:20] <Bytram> Joaquin
[15:15:53] <Bytram> http://www.cnn.com
[15:15:54] <Schwifty> ^ 03Hurricane Joaquin poised to hit Bahamas - CNN.com
[15:16:25] <janrinok> oh, I thought you meant the singer of that song - I was about to say that I think you were wrong
[15:18:51] <cmn32480> yeah... gotta fire up the generator when I get home
[15:19:10] <cmn32480> make sure I got fresh gas...
[15:20:12] <Bytram> I'm not familiar, but is there a need to fire up the generator before the power goes out? Or is that just a test start/run to make sure it is still in good shape?
[15:23:27] <cmn32480> to make sure the sucker still works!
[15:24:03] <cmn32480> far easier to disassemble the carbeurator with the lights on than AFTER the power goes out
[15:24:06] <Bytram> that makes sense! for some reason I thought you might have meant to have it up and running ahead of losing power and I could not make any sense of that... hence my quesiton.
[15:24:17] <cmn32480> a valid thought
[15:24:18] <Bytram> excellent point!
[15:24:26] <Bytram> make sure the UPS's are in good shape, too.
[15:24:40] <cmn32480> not too worried about the UPS's at the house
[15:24:56] <janrinok> gtg - need to order pizza and then go and collect it
[15:25:01] <cmn32480> everything important will be off
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[15:25:06] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:25:31] <Bytram> batteries and LED flashlights, radio, phone chargers, candles, fire extinguishers ;)
[15:26:55] <cmn32480> once the generator is running, extension cords will be pre-placed to allow me to keep my internet, fridge, and freezers running
[15:27:10] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:27:48] <Bytram> power-free way to extend life of freezer/fridge: drape blankets over them to increase the insulation and keep more of the cold in
[15:28:11] <cmn32480> the freezer in the basement will keep for about 3 days, as long as we don't open the door.
[15:28:22] <cmn32480> the fridge in the kitchen... different ball game
[15:28:34] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:29:26] <Bytram> if you have a large cooler, put the most-frequently-needed stuff in that and thus keep the fridge door closed for the most part.
[15:29:37] <Bytram> oh, and fill the tub with water
[15:30:29] <cmn32480> city water... so that shoudln't be an issue
[15:32:12] <Bytram> never hurts to have some extra on-hand. if their pumps go out... let's just say that I have experience a few water main breaks and life without water is a bit tricky and, umm, fragrant.
[15:33:18] <cmn32480> I gotta run. back in a bit.
[15:33:19] <Bytram> btw, thanks for the headsup about joaquin -- I don't generally follow the media and didn't yet know that it had blossomed and might head in my direction.
[15:33:22] <Bytram> k
[15:36:44] <Bytram> well! that explains a few things... we had nearly 6 inches of rain yesterday! No wonder there was so much flooding!
[15:38:01] <Bytram> afk
[15:53:57] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[15:53:59] <Schwifty> ^ 03Every Android device is vulnerable to newly discovered bugs - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[15:54:06] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[15:54:07] <Schwifty> ^ 03A billion Android phones are vulnerable to new Stagefright bugs | Ars Technica
[16:18:33] <cmn32480> back.
[16:18:47] <cmn32480> had to run to Costco around the corner... J forgot her Amex
[16:18:53] <Bytram> oops.
[16:19:26] <cmn32480> yup
[16:19:26] <Bytram> good that you could be there for her.
[16:19:46] <cmn32480> can't wait until Costco starts taking somethign else after the first of the year
[16:20:00] <Bytram> thanks to your warning, I just turned on the TV 20 minutes ago to catch up on Jpaquin and yesterday's flooding.
[16:20:11] <Bytram> now I remember why I haven't watched TV in so long.
[16:20:20] <cmn32480> heh
[16:20:26] <Bytram> so... strident!
[16:20:40] <cmn32480> from what I heard we are supposed to get hit tonight into tomorrow
[16:20:48] <Bytram> Everything. Is. **SO** Important. Every. Single. *****WORD*****!!!!!
[16:21:02] <cmn32480> rofl
[16:21:12] <Bytram> jsut the facts, ma'am.
[16:21:13] <cmn32480> stupid 24 hour news cycle
[16:21:18] <Bytram> and speeling, too. :/
[16:21:36] <cmn32480> we are editors\
[16:21:45] <cmn32480> we can misspell anthign and everythign
[16:21:55] <Bytram> we've got moah practise
[16:21:58] <Bytram> =)
[16:22:04] <cmn32480> zackl;y
[16:22:15] * Bytram forgot what state you are in? (besides preparation)
[16:22:29] <cmn32480> denial
[16:22:37] <Bytram> PERFECT!
[16:22:44] <cmn32480> it is in DeEgypt
[16:22:59] <Bytram> isn't that a river in Egypt?
[16:23:01] <Bytram> ninjad
[16:23:55] * cmn32480 sonorously intones "The measure of a man's genius is how much he agrees with you."
[16:24:15] <Bytram> btw, looks like the Android platform just can't catch a break -- StageFright 2.0:
[16:24:16] <Bytram> http://www.cnet.com
[16:24:16] <Schwifty> ^* 03Every Android device is vulnerable to newly discovered bugs - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[16:24:21] <cmn32480> upside.. I got a big old plate of chicken salad for lunch while I was in costco
[16:24:23] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[16:24:23] <Schwifty> ^✓ 03A billion Android phones are vulnerable to new Stagefright bugs | Ars Technica
[16:24:35] <Bytram> chicken salad? Yum!
[16:25:01] * Bytram is reminded he has not eaten yet... bbs
[16:25:03] <cmn32480> made from yesterday's unsold rotisserie chickens
[16:25:10] <Bytram> lol, truth.
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[16:28:21] <cmn32480> they are very up front about it. they roast x number for the chicken salad, and striaght up tell you that tehy will use the leftovers from today as well so that they don't get tossed in the trash.
[16:29:55] * Bytram is impressed with the honesty!
[16:30:39] <cmn32480> Costco generally has a good reputation when it comes to that kind of thing
[16:32:05] * Bytram hasn't been to one in I don't know how long; not even sure if there is one around.
[16:32:23] <Bytram> http://news.sciencemag.org
[16:32:24] <Schwifty> ^ 03Why beauty is in the eye of the beholder | Science/AAAS | News
[16:32:41] <Bytram> http://www.cell.com
[16:32:42] <Schwifty> ^ 03( https://secure.jbs.elsevierhealth.com )
[16:33:34] <cmn32480> i must admit that I find it hilarious that people post all tehse interesting links into IRC, but never submit them as stories, even though exec has the function to do so
[16:34:22] <Bytram> well, if I see a story submission that consists of just a link, I'll look at something else unless I have some spare time or find the topic expecially interesting.
[16:34:47] <cmn32480> me too... but many of them are an easy cut/paste of the first few paragraphs and off we go
[16:35:29] <Bytram> nodnod, but I prefer, if at all possible, to provide a summary / abstraction instead of just copy/pasty
[16:35:37] <cmn32480> agreed
[16:36:44] <Bytram> stepping back and looking at the site with a 1000' (333 meter?) view -- I most enjoy the stories that have more than just copy/paste -- so it's beholden to me to submit the same.
[16:37:11] <cmn32480> damn... looks like NYC and Boston are gonna get pounded....
[16:37:31] <Bytram> say what you will, but pappa's fritos does a good job of merging info from multiple sites.
[16:37:42] <cmn32480> absolutely
[16:38:04] <cmn32480> he writes an actual summary
[16:38:09] <Bytram> still too early to tell, from what I've heard. depends on how much a high pressure cell subsides in the north atlantic
[16:38:30] <Bytram> true
[16:38:51] <Bytram> main thing I find I need to do for those stories is insert a couple paragraph tags
[16:39:03] <cmn32480> yup
[16:39:12] <cmn32480> I try, but sometime there sin't a good spot
[16:39:27] <Bytram> and, personal preference, set off the names of publications: <em>The New York Times</em>
[16:39:42] <Bytram> NYT? Feh! Speel. It. Out!
[16:40:01] * Bytram continues to practice his misspeeeling
[16:40:07] <cmn32480> unless you have already speel'd it out earlie in the summary, then it is ok
[16:40:09] <Bytram> ;)
[16:40:16] <Bytram> okay, time for food. back in a bit.
[16:40:41] <cmn32480> okie
[17:01:13] * cmn32480 wishes he had bought crackers too
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[18:06:09] <Bytram> .sdrawkcab gnipyt won si gnihtyreve ,dbk potpal ni-tliub eht esu I nehw won dna esool ewmac elbac dbk ym
[18:06:27] <janrinok> lol
[18:06:54] <Bytram> sry
[18:07:11] <janrinok> still laughing!
[18:07:12] <Bytram> rebooting
[18:07:20] <cmn32480> how long did you ahv that in the buffer waiting?
[18:07:23] <Bytram> thats hard
[18:07:42] <Bytram> I am typing it now
[18:08:07] <Bytram> esrever ni srettel eht gnipyt yb gnihtyreve epytot tluciffid yrev s'ti ,yllaere
[18:08:35] <Bytram> kniht I ,CP ym toober ot deen I
[18:08:57] <cmn32480> or your fingers
[18:09:04] <janrinok> are you using linux? Use the 'rev' command
[18:09:08] <Bytram> YAY@!
[18:09:25] <Bytram> I just unplugged the PS2 adapters and reconnected them and now I am back to normnal
[18:09:35] <cmn32480> pan a sdeen martyb
[18:09:36] <Bytram> whew!
[18:09:46] <Bytram> no kidding!
[18:09:50] <janrinok> Bytram: I doubt that you are back to 'normal', but you are probably better than you were :-)
[18:10:09] <Bytram> that *would* be an improvement, aisle add mitt
[18:10:36] <Bytram> btw, have any of you ever heard about 'voice morphing software'
[18:10:43] <Bytram> aka 'voice imitation software'
[18:10:54] <janrinok> nope
[18:11:05] <janrinok> none of me has heard of it
[18:11:16] <cmn32480> rehtien me
[18:11:34] <Bytram> apparently with a few minutes' of voice samples, software can discern those aspects of one's voice that make it 'unique' and then apply those to someone else's input and make it sound like you.
[18:11:35] <cmn32480> that takes too much concentration
[18:12:00] <Bytram> works well enough that there are concerns that it would bypass voice security
[18:12:05] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:12:16] <Bytram> http://www.uab.edu
[18:12:18] <Schwifty> ^ 03UAB - UAB News - UAB research finds automated voice imitation can fool humans and machines
[18:12:41] <Bytram> now think of how many voice samples are held by: Apple (Siri), Google, and Microsoft.
[18:12:57] <Bytram> or, simply take a sample from YouTube.
[18:13:13] <Bytram> any politician who has had a speech recorded.
[18:13:20] <Bytram> or newscaster.
[18:13:26] * janrinok is beginning to think that Bytram would have been a major criminal in another life
[18:13:27] <Bytram> aye carumba!
[18:13:42] <Bytram> would? ;)
[18:13:45] <Bytram> j/k
[18:14:26] <Bytram> had a wise manager many years ago who told me that if I was going to steal anything, then I'd better steal enough so that I could live the rest of my life on the proceeds, because if I failed, I'd have a record for the rest of my life.
[18:14:33] <Bytram> sage advice, indeed.
[18:14:47] <Bytram> so, I took the next best route and went into QA!
[18:14:54] <janrinok> I hope it was learned by experience
[18:15:03] <janrinok> wasn't*
[18:15:25] <Bytram> not from experience, thankfully.
[18:15:31] <Bytram> I know I am not that good to be that bad.
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[18:16:35] <Bytram> Also, I'm reminded of: Edgar Allen Poe's 'The Telltale Heart'
[18:17:49] <Bytram> anyway, just finished my lunch and am ready for a nap...
[18:17:55] <Bytram> will catch you all later...
[18:18:01] <janrinok> have a good kip!
[18:18:25] <cmn32480> zzzzzzzzz say s bytram
[18:18:37] <Bytram> cmn32480: best of luck to you and the upcoming storm... and I'll keep you, your family, and your neighbors in my thoughts and prayers.
[18:18:46] <cmn32480> thanks Bytram
[18:18:49] <Bytram> np
[18:18:52] <cmn32480> same to you. stay dry!
[18:18:55] <janrinok> and you take care to
[18:18:57] <janrinok> too*
[18:21:30] <Bytram> I'm just tossing this out there as the thought came to me, but your neighbor's kids -- all daughters? and you have a daughter, too? Maybe a sleepover would be good for all concerned? Like I said, I don't know, but just putting it out there for your thoughts/consideration. Then again taking care of your *own* family is top priority and a weighty responsibility. So, hope you can make light of it for the kids and make it one of those
[18:21:31] <Bytram> 'remember back when we had the hurricane' "Yeah! we played monopoly all night long!" kind of things.
[18:21:37] <Bytram> anyway, just thinking out loud.
[18:21:55] <cmn32480> there is a 10+ year age difference
[18:21:58] <Bytram> and feel free to call me at *any* time... I'll ping you with my tel no.
[18:22:05] <cmn32480> his daughters are all higschool and college age.
[18:22:07] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[18:22:10] <janrinok> you know, you are always thinking about others, that is special
[18:22:18] <cmn32480> I have your number Bytram.
[18:22:22] <Bytram|away> k
[18:22:26] <cmn32480> thank you for the kindness, it is appreciated.
[18:22:38] <Bytram|away> ahh, got it.
[18:22:43] <Bytram|away> major age difference.
[18:22:44] <cmn32480> my daughter is 3.
[18:22:50] <Bytram|away> whoops.
[18:23:03] <cmn32480> yeah.... but a sweet idea of they were older
[18:23:09] <Bytram|away> bedtime stories and pre-made s'mores.
[18:23:09] <cmn32480> younger
[18:23:16] <Bytram|away> more similar in age.
[18:23:20] <Bytram|away> =)
[18:23:21] <cmn32480> yeah that's it!
[18:23:25] <cmn32480> lol
[18:23:26] <Bytram|away> 'Thanks, Gilligan!"
[18:23:37] <Bytram|away> No problem, little buddy!
[18:23:43] <Bytram|away> on that note, ta ta for now.
[18:23:49] <cmn32480> sweet dreams!
[18:35:46] <cmn32480> back ijn a bit. gotta get to a meeting.
[18:37:06] <janrinok> k
[18:37:12] <janrinok> enjoy
[18:55:25] <janrinok> anyone available to do any 2nds pse?
[19:14:18] <janrinok> gtg - see you tomorrow guys
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[20:56:08] <cmn32480> nick !!
[20:59:27] <nick> good news gentlemen, i finally have another laptop so will be here to assign blame for things being broken
[20:59:36] <nick> cmn32480 !!
[20:59:52] <cmn32480> assign blame to Bytram|away
[20:59:58] <cmn32480> it's always his fault
[21:00:08] <nick> usually
[21:00:15] <cmn32480> how ytou been sir?
[21:00:54] <nick> busy with family and relocation, hopefully through the worst of it now
[21:01:06] <cmn32480> relocation sucks...
[21:01:11] <cmn32480> so does family some times
[21:01:12] <nick> new projects starting next week
[21:01:25] <nick> relocation wasnt too bad, i dont have much stuff
[21:01:56] <nick> how have you been keeping?
[21:02:35] <nick> my mum has been well behaved during here visit so im not complaining
[21:03:20] <cmn32480> been doing OK. spending too much time on the road, as per usual
[21:03:32] <cmn32480> but the wife and kids still love me, so it coudl be worse
[21:04:38] <cmn32480> i am shutting down for the evening so I cna head home
[21:04:48] <cmn32480> little luck, I'll catch you later
[21:05:10] <nick> take care, enjoy your evening :)
[21:05:14] <cmn32480> gonna try
[21:05:23] <cmn32480> get unpacked, would you? this place is a pig sty!
[21:05:25] <cmn32480> :-)
[21:05:31] <nick> lol
[21:06:11] <cmn32480> take it easy!
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[21:06:24] * nick hat tip
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[22:52:28] <takyon> check in
[22:52:40] <takyon> i'm going to sub some stories while my finger bleeds
[22:54:26] <nick> brutal
[23:08:25] <takyon> surprisd nobody got to this one
[23:08:26] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[23:08:27] <Schwifty> ^ 03Microsoft, Google agree to dismiss all pending patent infringement lawsuits - MarketWatch
[23:08:44] <takyon> nope, looks like they did