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[02:10:45] <nick> ahoy cmn32480
[02:10:53] <cmn32480> shoudln't you be in bed?
[02:10:58] <cmn32480> or rather
[02:11:00] <cmn32480> nick !!
[02:11:14] <cmn32480> dear god.. it must be about 3am where you are
[02:11:16] <nick> probably
[02:11:20] <nick> i mean
[02:11:23] <nick> cmn32480 !!
[02:11:36] <cmn32480> how's thigns today?
[02:11:43] <cmn32480> er... yesterday?
[02:11:58] <nick> indeed, 3am was a few minutes ago
[02:12:19] <nick> yesterday was reasonable, not the most productive but shit happens
[02:12:29] <nick> how about yourself?
[02:12:34] <cmn32480> I know the feeling
[02:12:38] <cmn32480> 'bout the same
[02:12:45] <cmn32480> stupid phone kept ringing.
[02:12:58] <cmn32480> so I got a lot of people fixed, but didn't get done the work I needed to do.
[02:14:07] <cmn32480> so now, instead fo doing the stuff for work... I'm editing... and playing halflife
[02:14:48] <nick> know how that goes, unless i have a specific meeting with place/time, usually shit changes when the phone rings.
[02:15:07] <cmn32480> always... even sometimes when I have a specific meeting
[02:16:11] <nick> was meaning to play some skyrim today, didn't happen.
[02:17:11] <cmn32480> so why aren't you in bed?
[02:17:51] <nick> i keep unusual hours
[02:18:14] <cmn32480> that explains it
[02:19:10] <cmn32480> why do I still hear the pitter patter of littel feet upstairs....
[02:19:12] <nick> when work demands is the only time i force myself to normal hours, but usually i prefer to work late if i can
[02:19:18] <cmn32480> now they are comgin down the stairs
[02:19:24] <nick> monsters...
[02:19:38] <cmn32480> nope... it answered to Dominic
[02:20:23] <cmn32480> unless he ate my oldest.....
[02:21:58] <cmn32480> crap... I cna't remember if I made my daughter got ot the potty before bed
[02:22:29] <cmn32480> do I wake her up to go pee?
[02:23:23] <nick> i dont have my parents license, so cant help you there
[02:23:41] <cmn32480> wait... I need a license for this?
[02:23:46] <cmn32480> shhhhhhhhhh
[02:23:49] <cmn32480> son't tell anybody....
[02:25:15] <nick> i assume you do, although enforcement appears to be quite lax
[02:26:33] <cmn32480> crap absed on some of the kids I've seen... I think it might be nonexistant
[02:29:25] <nick> if i had kids, im sure they'd want some of this ice cream.
[02:29:34] <cmn32480> yup
[02:29:40] <cmn32480> my oldest is eating trail mix.
[02:29:53] <cmn32480> needs the fiber from the dried fruit
[02:33:00] <nick> trail mix is good, but im not going to trade ice cream for it :p
[02:48:38] <cmn32480> I've had enough fun for one night.
[02:48:41] <cmn32480> time for bed
[02:49:03] <cmn32480> pleasant dreams
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[04:11:04] <takyon> are we sure 3d printed jet engine story is not a dupe?
[07:35:46] <takyon> check if 3d print story is dupe
[07:35:58] <takyon> where is jr
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[08:59:51] <janrinok> hi Bytram
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[12:55:22] <janrinok> cmn32480: !!
[12:55:42] <cmn32480> janrinok !!
[12:55:52] <janrinok> how's things?
[12:57:59] <cmn32480> pretty good
[12:58:04] <cmn32480> busy like always.
[12:58:08] <cmn32480> how about you?
[12:58:30] <janrinok> good, I'd hate you to be wasting your time. How many customers did you kill?
[12:59:02] <janrinok> we are OK, S has to have a 2nd operation on Friday, but relatively minor so no worries.
[12:59:31] <cmn32480> I'll keep her in my prayers
[12:59:39] <janrinok> thx, appreciated
[13:00:49] <cmn32480> well... she is an important party of your insanity
[13:01:08] <janrinok> _the_ most important part!
[13:01:53] <cmn32480> yup
[13:02:43] <janrinok> Is the rest of your family packing today for a departure tomorrow?
[13:02:52] * cmn32480 does the ahppy dance
[13:02:59] <cmn32480> i mean... ummmm
[13:03:02] <cmn32480> sadly yes.
[13:03:10] <janrinok> that'll be a YES then
[13:03:11] <cmn32480> I will be a bachelor until next Thursday
[13:03:24] * cmn32480 happy dances again
[13:04:33] <janrinok> the submissions have dried up this week - I might have to send in some bot stories
[13:05:28] <janrinok> I think that VPN story might be a DUPE - we had something similar but from a different source a few days back
[13:05:38] <cmn32480> nothing like testing in production
[13:05:43] <nick> hi guys
[13:05:47] <janrinok> hi nick
[13:05:48] <cmn32480> nick !!
[13:05:54] <nick> cmn32480 !!
[13:06:24] <cmn32480> are you still awake or just getting up?
[13:07:03] <nick> ive been up for a while
[13:07:10] * janrinok suspects he needed food
[13:07:21] <cmn32480> when I left him last night it was 3am his time
[13:07:25] <nick> im supposed to be going into the office of sorts today :|
[13:07:40] <cmn32480> as a zombie to feed on brains?
[13:07:42] <nick> its way too nice outside to be doing that shit
[13:08:28] <nick> no brains in the office, brains would be outside enjoying the few days of summer
[13:09:20] <cmn32480> that is only true when sales is around....
[13:10:29] <nick> well as we dont have a dedicated sales person, dont know where that leaves us
[13:10:38] <nick> hows things going for janrinok and cmn32480 today?
[13:10:50] <janrinok> I dunno, I ask myself
[13:11:06] <cmn32480> same old same old.... at the office. doing paperwork
[13:11:17] <cmn32480> but the wife adn kids are leaving town tomorrow morning
[13:11:23] <cmn32480> janrinok is bringing the keg
[13:11:35] <cmn32480> some good German beer he claims
[13:11:56] <janrinok> Fine - enjoying the nice weather, but not looking forward to a very early start on Friday (0500) to get S into hospital for an 0800 appt in theatre.
[13:14:06] <nick> cmn32480: sounds good, i'll bring the bbq :D
[13:14:15] <cmn32480> excellent.
[13:14:17] <nick> hope everything goes well on friday, janrinok.
[13:14:40] <janrinok> thx
[13:16:01] <janrinok> nick - are you bidding for Glastonbury next year :) ?
[13:19:01] <nick> not a chance, if i have the opportunity, its unlikely i'd turn it down
[13:19:25] <janrinok> it's been cornered by the big boys yep?
[13:19:26] <nick> but i dont really like glastonbury, too big, too many little empires within itself
[13:19:56] <nick> yes and no, for core infrastructure the big boys have it, and thats because even they struggle with the sizes
[13:20:01] <nick> size*
[13:20:14] <nick> have to import fences, generators and stuff from their operations in the rest of europe and irelenad
[13:20:19] <nick> ireland*
[13:20:24] <janrinok> do they sub-contract to smaller outfits?
[13:20:28] <nick> because there is literally nothing else on the scale
[13:20:47] <nick> glastonbury is worlds within worlds, so for a lot of the stuff within is done by smaller companies
[13:21:10] <nick> but it's very territorial and little to no working together
[13:21:34] <nick> you can have a gate with 4 different security teams on it, all wanting it to be 'their gate'
[13:21:53] <janrinok> you are better off looking elsewhere then
[13:22:04] <janrinok> brb - tea
[13:22:09] <nick> my dad actually worked on glastonbury back in the 80's
[13:22:16] <nick> but it's not like it was then
[13:24:24] <nick> it was actually on the table for this year, subcontracting, but it fell through in the end
[13:24:39] <nick> i dont really want to go back to subcontracting anyway
[13:32:20] <janrinok> tea++
[13:32:20] <Bender> karma - tea: 9
[13:33:05] <janrinok> can you remember who was the main act for your's Dad's time at Glasto?
[13:37:14] <nick> no idea, he worked on it for several years though
[13:40:07] <nick> i need a supply of ice water for today, looks like i wont be drinking anymore tea for the next couple months or so...
[13:40:15] <janrinok> problem?
[13:40:56] <nick> i cant drink tea in hot weather
[13:41:39] <nick> for the two years or so i lived in more tropical climates, i never had a hot drink, and i still cant comprehend tea during 'summer'
[13:43:04] <janrinok> Despite it being a very good drink for cooling you down? I mean, all those on the indian-subcontinent can't be wrong.
[13:43:43] <nick> thats the theory, but for me, i cant get my head around it
[13:44:05] <nick> a nice glass or bottle of ice water feels far more refreshing than a cup of tea
[13:45:05] <cmn32480> FTFY - a nice glass or bottle of beer feels far more refreshing than a cup of tea
[13:45:24] <cmn32480> And I mean cold beer.. not that warm stuff you brits like
[13:45:27] <janrinok> the tea makes you perspire which helps cool you down.
[13:45:47] <nick> cmn32480, i even prefer to drink the warm stuff at least cool.
[13:46:00] <cmn32480> in a humid environment, that doesn't help
[13:46:05] <nick> not ice cold, but preferably below room temp
[13:46:15] <janrinok> cmn32480: and of course, you can drink american beer all day long because it is sufficiently weak to be suitable for a baby's bottle feed.
[13:46:15] <nick> janrinok, when im sweating buckets already
[13:46:19] <nick> i dont need help from a hot drink
[13:46:36] <cmn32480> janrinok - precisely sir. might as well be water.
[13:47:21] <nick> janrinok, and yet you cant drink in the US until 21...
[13:47:26] <nick> some weird logic they have going on there
[13:47:34] <cmn32480> no, sir
[13:47:37] <cmn32480> not logic
[13:47:47] <janrinok> you can have a gun but not drink - priorities
[13:47:53] <cmn32480> the term you are looking for is stupidity
[13:48:19] <janrinok> it is not my place to judge how other countries do it - I just watch from afar in puzzlement
[13:48:29] <nick> agreed, janrinok
[13:48:34] <cmn32480> I watch from anear in puzzlement
[13:48:38] <janrinok> lol
[13:48:58] <nick> i just found it quite strange going from the UK, to spending time in the US when i was 20 and suddenly not being able to go to a bar or buy booze
[13:49:41] <nick> after drinking with family since ??, and in local parks in the UK since i was 14 or so
[13:50:06] <cmn32480> you have to understand, we don't get it either. If I had to guess, the legal drinking age thing has to do more with the religious prevention of sin than anything else.
[13:50:39] <nick> 3L of ace white and 10 mayfair superkings on a friday night, what better way to spend your early teen years...
[13:51:03] <janrinok> it's good to see that you have removed all sin from your country but, I think that I would rather live among sinners and have a beer when I want to :)
[13:51:19] <cmn32480> I tend to agree
[13:51:26] <nick> cmn32480, in that seperation of church and state country?
[13:51:30] <nick> that logic again....
[13:51:39] <nick> my simple european mind clearly cannot grasp these concepts.
[13:51:43] <janrinok> I think we call it commonsense
[13:51:53] <cmn32480> and our federal gov't ties that legal drinking age to things like highway improvement $$
[13:52:40] <nick> see in my day, we got our drinking problems out the way before it was legal to do so
[13:52:55] <nick> then by the time we were 18 we could enjoy a quiet pint in the pub and complain about the youths of the days
[13:52:56] <nick> -s
[13:56:10] <nick> that was pretty much my 18th birthday too, a quiet few pints in the pub, all the fun and excess had been done in the 4 years previous
[13:56:49] <cmn32480> before you could drive.
[13:56:56] <cmn32480> well gee.. that'd have been smart
[14:07:15] <cmn32480> I hate it when sales resp sell somethign that we are ill equipped to provide, then I have to jump through hoops to make it all go.
[14:13:28] <nick> world would be a better place without sales reps
[14:13:28] <janrinok> that's what sales people are for isn't it - they make up fairytales that can never come true, and then get upset when you prove it
[14:13:36] <nick> or as they apparently call them now
[14:13:40] <nick> 'business development managers'
[14:13:54] <janrinok> lol - you are coming along nicely nick
[14:14:07] <janrinok> you are getting the terminology squared away
[14:14:47] <nick> i have to talk in bullshit, when talking to people like that
[14:14:53] <nick> so i have no choice but to learn it
[14:15:09] <janrinok> don't go over to the dark side....
[14:15:33] <nick> that is unlikely
[14:16:27] <janrinok> the problem will be that you'll be using that terminology more and more in meetings, and it will creep into other areas without you noticing
[14:17:08] <nick> yeah, it's already a bit like that
[14:17:27] <nick> but you have to talk in bullshit, as the world in general expects it
[14:17:50] <nick> both the 'business development managers' and the clients expect the fairytale bullshit buzzword bingo
[14:20:28] <nick> it's a very delicate balance to be able to work in the world, and maintain sanity and ethics at the same time
[14:20:47] <janrinok> just don't fall off the tightrope...
[14:21:21] <cmn32480> ethics? I'm pretty sure this one particular guy doens't know the meaning of the word
[14:22:23] <nick> what guy is that, cmn32480
[14:22:40] <janrinok> are you going to shoot him?
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[14:23:05] <janrinok> oooh, perhaps I shouldn't have said that...?
[14:23:31] <nick> he got too close to the truth, had to be dealt with
[14:23:58] <janrinok> he can't handle the truth!
[14:25:29] <janrinok> he was having connection problems the other day - I wonder if he got his box changed?
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[14:26:28] <nick> wb cmn32480
[14:26:30] <janrinok> wb
[14:26:33] <nick> and now it is time for me to leave
[14:26:36] <cmn32480> &%^(*ing windows
[14:26:45] <janrinok> is that what the problem has been?
[14:26:46] <cmn32480> have a good day nick
[14:26:51] <cmn32480> just this time
[14:27:01] <cmn32480> before it was the internet connection
[14:27:07] <nick> take care guys
[14:27:10] * nick hat tip
[14:27:20] <janrinok> laters nick
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