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[12:59:54] <janrinok> hi Bytram !
[12:59:59] <Bytram> hola!
[13:00:03] <Bytram> how's things?
[13:00:16] <janrinok> good - I'm just 2nd ed'ing your stories
[13:00:33] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:00:42] <Bytram> heads up; I had just finished editing the story
[13:00:49] <Bytram> on bitmap all your data
[13:00:59] <Bytram> and then discovered it was submitted by the
[13:01:14] <janrinok> who, what, when?
[13:01:15] <Bytram> same person who wrote the code -- at least it looks that was from the link to github.
[13:01:23] <Bytram> just a sec
[13:01:27] <janrinok> ah - the suspense was killing me :)
[13:01:40] <Bytram> here's the edit link: https://soylentnews.org
[13:01:46] <exec> └─ 13- SoylentNews User - 03https://soylentnews.org/users.pl
[13:02:05] <janrinok> yeah, I've already got it open
[13:02:10] <Bytram> k
[13:02:27] <Bytram> it's kind of a 'slashvertisement' -- tooting one's horn, so to speak
[13:02:39] <Bytram> OTOH, it is kind of an interesting concept
[13:02:55] <Bytram> so i'm torn whether or not we should run with it... sets a precedent, yanno?
[13:03:06] <janrinok> I can add a bit after his link - to explain that it points to his personal software solution
[13:03:20] <Bytram> that's an idea
[13:03:43] <Bytram> I'm just concerned that itmight set the precedent that everyone and his cousin will start trfying to
[13:03:52] <Bytram> use our site to self-promote whatever project they are working on
[13:05:10] <janrinok> well, if that becomes the case we can simply stop publishing them
[13:05:28] <Bytram> don't try to solve all the site's potential problems ahead of time, eh?
[13:05:31] <Bytram> sounds like a plan
[13:05:35] <Bytram> but, that can wait... I just pushed out a story 'Cisco Security Appliances Found to have Default SSH Keys' https://soylentnews.org
[13:05:39] <janrinok> have a look at the story now and tell me what you think pse.
[13:05:41] <exec> └─ 13- SoylentNews User - 03https://soylentnews.org/users.pl
[13:05:49] <Bytram> am wondering whether that warrants a breaking news ??
[13:05:52] <Bytram> will do
[13:06:17] <janrinok> do you want me to move the cisco story to next release slot?
[13:07:00] <Bytram> I dunno; that's a pretty MAJOR hole, so warrants wide disemination...
[13:07:14] <Bytram> I could argue it either way; am curious as to YOUR thoughts
[13:07:20] <janrinok> I'll break it, and push it out sooner
[13:07:48] <Bytram> much obliged!
[13:08:21] <Bytram> seems that I had left out the original submission link in the bitmap all things story :/ -- just added it in
[13:08:36] * Bytram clicks save
[13:10:01] <janrinok> refresh your story page and check that I've got my times correct pse
[13:10:03] <janrinok> brb
[13:10:05] <Bytram> hmm, this looks 'timely': http://feeds.sciencedaily.com
[13:10:08] <Bytram> nod nod;
[13:10:19] * Bytram needs to get cleaned up for his day, too.
[13:10:24] <Bytram> ~titles on
[13:10:37] <Bytram> http://feeds.sciencedaily.com
[13:10:40] <exec> └─ 13Why June 30 will get an extra second -- ScienceDaily - 03http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150627081224.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+%28Latest+Science+News+--+ScienceDaily%29
[13:10:54] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[13:10:56] <exec> └─ 13Why June 30 will get an extra second -- ScienceDaily
[13:11:14] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[13:11:16] <exec> └─ 13Why June 30 will get an extra second -- ScienceDaily
[13:11:39] * Bytram really despises tracking URLs -- thanks exec!
[13:11:42] <janrinok> back on the cisco story - I assume that any competent network engineer would know about this?
[13:12:26] <Bytram> well, if they don't... how competent would you say they are? otoh, I can see places where the equipment was installed by a vendor and it's kind
[13:12:31] <janrinok> but better safe than sorry - perhaps they are not all competent
[13:12:36] <Bytram> of a lights out and call me when there's a problem situation
[13:12:51] <janrinok> I think we agree! :)
[13:13:23] <janrinok> you getting ready for work?
[13:13:26] <Bytram> so, sure... an IBM or MS would be right on top of this, but a local bricks and mortar store with maybe 20-100 employees? not-so-much
[13:13:34] <Bytram> nah, day off but errands to run
[13:13:45] <Bytram> worked 0900-2130 yesterday
[13:14:06] <janrinok> yes, you were telling me. Does that include an overtime payment?
[13:14:20] <Bytram> only if the week's total exceeds 40hrs, I believe
[13:14:50] <Bytram> so, I could work 3 12-hour days in a row and get no overtime
[13:15:02] <Bytram> not that I would actually *do* that!
[13:15:16] <janrinok> but then have extra days off, I suppose that is fair
[13:15:52] <janrinok> if you have a chance at some point to 2nd ed my stories I would appreciate it
[13:16:04] <Bytram> ISTR that in massachusetts, any hours over some-number-I-don't-recall per day were supposed to be considered OT,
[13:16:10] <Bytram> will try
[13:16:26] <janrinok> don't bust a gut - but if you can..... ;)
[13:16:38] <Bytram> I tried a shortened URL for a story and my browser pukes a bit: http://www.sciencedaily.com
[13:16:41] <exec> └─ 13Why June 30 will get an extra second -- ScienceDaily
[13:17:10] <Bytram> I've got NoScript running, among other things, so I just see this in my browser:
[13:17:11] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[13:17:11] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[13:17:11] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[13:17:11] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[13:17:11] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[13:17:13] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com(
[13:17:14] <exec> └─ 13Help Page -- ScienceDaily
[13:17:15] <janrinok> that url works for me
[13:17:15] <exec> └─ 13Help Page -- ScienceDaily
[13:17:16] <exec> └─ 13Help Page -- ScienceDaily
[13:17:16] <exec> └─ 13Help Page -- ScienceDaily
[13:17:17] <exec> └─ 13Help Page -- ScienceDaily
[13:17:30] <Bytram> lol - thanks exec for the attempts!
[13:17:33] <Bytram> kwel!
[13:17:38] * Bytram goes to 2nd ed
[13:17:52] <janrinok> I've also got NoScript on FF, but it just works for me...
[13:18:06] <Bytram> hmm, I'm using PM, but I've got like 20 addons installed
[13:18:30] <Bytram> fun question for you...
[13:18:35] <janrinok> my story bot is coming along nicely - it can actually suggest a Topic for a story with a reasonable hit rate
[13:18:42] <Bytram> "Quentin Hardy reports at the NY Times that Google just announced that it is opening its 14th data center inside a former coal-fired power plant in Stevenson, Alabama"
[13:18:57] <janrinok> yes....?
[13:19:13] <Bytram> so why have we not heard about the 13 data centers that it opened in that power plant before?
[13:19:24] <Bytram> =)
[13:19:28] <janrinok> you mean is that 14 data centres inside one coal fired plant
[13:19:36] <Bytram> ding ding!
[13:19:52] <Bytram> "Quentin Hardy reports at the NY Times that Google just announced that it is opening its 14th data center, the latest inside a former coal-fired power plant in Stevenson, Alabama"
[13:20:04] <janrinok> that could also mean the same thing
[13:20:10] <Bytram> hmm
[13:20:21] <janrinok> , this one though is in a ...
[13:20:27] <Bytram> "Quentin Hardy reports at the NY Times that Google just announced that it is opening its 14th data center. This one is inside a former coal-fired power plant in Stevenson, Alabama"
[13:20:40] <janrinok> we both suggested the same
[13:20:56] <Bytram> must be right, then!
[13:21:00] <janrinok> If you change it - watch out for the link closure
[13:21:08] <Bytram> k
[13:21:41] <Bytram> btw, I generally try to italicize the names of publications... e.g. <em>The New York Times</em>
[13:21:46] <janrinok> it is all resolved if you read the 2nd half, which is sub'ed by Phoenix666
[13:22:16] <Bytram> true that...
[13:22:20] <janrinok> feel free - I don't but I have no strong views, and I can't remember what the guide suggests
[13:22:22] <Bytram> hmmm, swap the order of the stories?
[13:23:04] <Bytram> I think that would make it clearer... here I go.
[13:23:07] <janrinok> Me, I'd leave it. If the pedants want to pick holes - well, it is the weekend and that is what they will do anyway
[13:24:10] <Bytram> good point; /me reloads the story
[13:26:12] <Bytram> Ijustnoticed we don't have separate <Hn>titles</Hn> on those stories... did those not get provided when you merged the stories?
[13:26:53] <janrinok> it was a 'late' merge
[13:27:06] <janrinok> and they both said roughly the same thing
[13:27:18] <Bytram> ahhh, alread had theone in the queue and then noticed the other, so cut-n-pasted it in?
[13:27:32] <janrinok> yep
[13:27:39] <Bytram> k
[13:27:51] <janrinok> and then save the new one for 0000-00-00 so that it gets the karma
[13:28:04] <Bytram> I'm gonna leave it that way,then... see how that goes over
[13:28:16] <Bytram> are you saying that's what you *did*?
[13:28:23] <janrinok> I've done it a few times now - you are the first to notice!
[13:28:37] <Bytram> QA - it's in my *blood*!!!
[13:28:50] <janrinok> or, as TMB calls it - breaking things
[13:29:23] <Bytram> nothing earth-shaking in the powerplant sotry, just removed one 'that' as it was the thrid, nested, use of it
[13:29:35] <janrinok> I hate thrids
[13:29:51] <janrinok> I don't blame you for deleting them
[13:29:57] <Bytram> silly rabbit thrids are for kix! or something like that! =)
[13:31:16] <janrinok> just playing with my storybot prog - a new feed story. A google car and a Delphi Automotive robo car have almost pranged in Silicon Valley. Oh, how I laughed!
[13:31:49] <Bytram> I bet theyhad to swerve several times before they almost hit!
[13:32:09] <Bytram> like pitting one chess program against another (or itself!)
[13:32:11] <janrinok> a bit of finger pointing has ensued
[13:32:28] <Bytram> yeah? what's the point? =)
[13:32:47] <janrinok> you nailed that one
[13:32:52] * Bytram added quotes around the name of the report in the NIST article
[13:32:56] <Bytram> tee hee!
[13:33:00] <janrinok> so knuckle down and carry on
[13:33:08] <janrinok> I've got to hand it to you
[13:33:17] <Bytram> BAH!
[13:33:37] <Bytram> maybe I could palm it off on someone else?
[13:33:42] <janrinok> crutchy is saying lo on #soylent
[13:33:49] <Bytram> can we attain perfect alliteration?
[13:33:51] <Bytram> Binary Blob Banished from Berated Browser Build (Chromium)
[13:34:19] <janrinok> I couldn't think of a replacement for 'from' that made sense
[13:34:22] <Bytram> Berated Browser's Build Banishes Binary Blob
[13:34:37] <janrinok> unless Banished By
[13:35:08] <Bytram> aha
[13:35:34] <Bytram> Binary Blob Banished By Berated Browser's Better Build (Chromium)
[13:35:47] <Bytram> nah
[13:35:47] <janrinok> better!
[13:35:50] <Bytram> lol
[13:35:58] * Bytram not like 'better'
[13:36:34] <Bytram> hmm
[13:36:41] <Bytram> not as bad as I thot
[13:36:45] <Bytram> run with it?
[13:37:25] <janrinok> yeah, go with it
[13:37:59] <Bytram> got it
[13:38:06] * Bytram clicks update.
[13:38:11] <Bytram> done!
[13:38:42] <janrinok> we're good for over 12 hours now
[13:39:02] <Bytram> yay
[13:39:14] <janrinok> thx for that
[13:39:30] <Bytram> now, as for the JT (janrinok technique), do we want to drain the sub queue so as to encourage more subs?
[13:39:49] <janrinok> sure if you have time
[13:40:29] <Bytram> unfortunately, not atm
[13:40:45] <Bytram> but, maybe another ed will see this discussion and run with it?
[13:40:57] <janrinok> we can only hope
[13:41:00] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:41:14] <Bytram> ok, time to get going.... I'll check in before I leafve
[13:41:16] <janrinok> you best get on with your chores
[13:41:17] <Bytram> *leave
[13:41:20] <Bytram> afk
[13:41:25] <janrinok> laters
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[15:07:48] <timothy> hello janrinok|afk
[17:16:52] <timothy> heya bytram
[17:17:13] <timothy> whoops....
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[17:23:12] <janrinok|afk> hi cmn32480
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[17:25:39] <cmn32480> how we doing today?
[17:25:57] <janrinok> good - and you?
[17:26:17] <cmn32480> most of my server migration went well.
[17:26:22] <janrinok> most of?
[17:26:27] <cmn32480> 1 box is not cooperating
[17:26:33] <janrinok> hit it harder
[17:26:45] <cmn32480> I'd rather nto damage the SQL server.
[17:27:00] <cmn32480> probably piss off the accountants
[17:27:05] <janrinok> threaten it with foul and profane language
[17:27:21] <cmn32480> already done that.... I was even holding a big stick at the time
[17:27:41] <janrinok> should have worked then, I know - its borked!
[17:27:49] <janrinok> my bill is in the post
[17:28:02] <janrinok> NEXT!
[17:28:04] <cmn32480> I sha;; pay ti from my editorial salary
[17:28:13] <janrinok> I was afraid of that :)
[17:28:18] <janrinok> hows the family?
[17:28:38] <cmn32480> doing good. jsut getting some inside chores done due to rain
[17:28:48] <cmn32480> yours? S doing well today?
[17:29:39] <cmn32480> Bytram - we are both in the universe rining story
[17:29:44] <janrinok> yes, she is OK thx. In bed now (19:29) because by this time she is too tired/weak to sit in her chair any longer. She is relatively happy in bed
[17:31:50] <cmn32480> Glad to hear she is well. :-)
[17:35:25] <cmn32480> i'd forgotten what it was like to only have 1 kid.
[17:35:43] <cmn32480> my parents still have the other 2
[17:35:55] <cmn32480> it is rather quiet... a little disturbing actually
[17:46:32] <janrinok> I though the others return this weekend?
[17:46:40] <janrinok> thought*
[17:49:12] <cmn32480> we are picking them up tomorrow
[17:50:20] <janrinok> is your wife managing to get a bit of a rest?
[17:51:23] <cmn32480> yes
[17:51:28] <cmn32480> running me ragged while she doews it
[17:51:34] <janrinok> send her my best wishes
[17:52:42] <cmn32480> I did. And she looked at me funny
[17:53:10] <janrinok> well, you might just look funny to her, you can't blame me for that....
[17:54:24] <cmn32480> i do look funny
[17:54:31] <cmn32480> Always have
[17:59:30] <janrinok> that explains it
[17:59:46] <cmn32480> she's in the same room
[17:59:53] <cmn32480> reading over my shoulder
[18:00:19] <cmn32480> it's quite hilarious
[18:03:30] <cmn32480> what do you think of the christie conspiracy story
[18:03:43] <cmn32480> janrinok^
[18:04:09] <janrinok> looking
[18:04:44] <cmn32480> it sounds a little too conspiracy theoryish to me
[18:05:02] <janrinok> I'd bin it personally
[18:05:12] <cmn32480> ok
[18:05:15] <cmn32480> we are greed
[18:05:19] <cmn32480> *agreed
[18:05:24] <cmn32480> bin it is
[18:06:01] <cmn32480> and the ask soylent I think is meh as well
[18:06:10] <janrinok> I also think that the 'Stopping Internet' is somewhat simplistic. But keep it incase we have nothing else for tomorrow
[18:06:29] <cmn32480> ok
[18:06:46] <janrinok> it should be relatively easy to dress up and push out to let the ACs have something to froth about
[18:06:57] <cmn32480> that's true
[18:07:52] <cmn32480> well we have drained the submission queue
[18:08:00] <janrinok> there is no dept on the Car Navigation System story - but I can't think of one either :)
[18:08:51] <cmn32480> antique gps dept?
[18:09:10] <janrinok> well, there is no rush for one, neither is one essential.
[18:09:41] <cmn32480> man... you shoudl hear the rain coming down
[18:09:41] <janrinok> If something clicks between now and release stuff it in there, otherwise we can let it go as is
[18:10:01] <janrinok> sorry, can't hear you for all this sunshine!
[18:10:05] <cmn32480> stuff from when I was a kid dept
[18:10:21] <cmn32480> :-p
[18:11:26] <cmn32480> careful... all that sunshine can be hell on your hearing
[18:14:06] <cmn32480> ahhhh shit
[18:14:20] <cmn32480> the Cisco security article is a direct copy from slashdot
[18:14:36] <cmn32480> by somebody other than who submitted it here
[18:14:53] <janrinok> OK, but I don't read /. and how do you know they don't have different nicks on each site?
[18:15:06] <cmn32480> kaszz does this A LOT
[18:15:33] <cmn32480> I've deleted 20+ articles from him in the last month or two all from different authors on /.
[18:15:38] <janrinok> However, it is breaking news and a security concern so I'm not to unhappy about it - although I wasn't aware until you pointed it out.
[18:15:59] <cmn32480> anythign wiht his name on it gets searched through google
[18:16:00] <janrinok> mrcoolbp has emailed him asking him to stop doing this
[18:16:11] <cmn32480> and gotten crickets as a resonse
[18:16:20] <cmn32480> *response
[18:16:53] <janrinok> feel free to bin his stories if you see the same happening again
[18:16:54] <cmn32480> the email kicks back, and he has not responded to an other attempts to contact him via his journal, or elsewhere on the site
[18:17:00] <cmn32480> we do.
[18:17:09] <cmn32480> mcbp said to
[18:17:38] <cmn32480> google the first line this way:
[18:17:46] <janrinok> well the Cisco story is out now. I'd leave it.
[18:17:54] <cmn32480> site:slashdot.org "insert first line here"
[18:18:00] <cmn32480> I will... out adn has comments
[18:18:33] <cmn32480> https://www.google.com
[18:18:36] <exec> └─ 13Google
[18:20:21] <cmn32480> if it shows up wiht the exact first line, it goes in the bin without any firther research
[18:23:41] <cmn32480> coolhand is in 2nding....
[18:24:10] <janrinok> they are all done, aren't they?
[18:24:27] <cmn32480> yup. he jsut did the 1985 GPS
[18:24:46] <janrinok> I did that - that is why I told you about the lack of a dept
[18:25:06] <cmn32480> he did more apparently
[18:25:23] <janrinok> ah, I think he is just reading it
[18:25:27] <cmn32480> updated 30 seconds after you
[18:26:09] <janrinok> we were both doing it at the same time perhaps
[18:26:44] <cmn32480> my guess is that everybody sees that I have been editing and says "ah crap... here comes a big workload"
[18:28:10] <cmn32480> interesting.. this old dell mouse that si starting to fail has "logitech" on the circuit board
[18:28:17] <janrinok> you did a good job yesterday of setting up the queue but when I logged on today over half had gone out without anyone 2nding them
[18:28:27] <janrinok> I did them retrospectively.
[18:29:23] <cmn32480> I had to... the story queue was empty and we were on the last one when I saw it
[18:30:21] <janrinok> good effort
[18:30:22] <cmn32480> did what I could while I was waiting for my backups to finish.
[18:30:46] <cmn32480> then I started the server migration that has gone slightly pear shaped
[18:31:56] <cmn32480> not soylent bad... but pear shaped
[18:32:11] <janrinok> lol
[18:32:27] <janrinok> soylent is now a measure of success of software upgrading?
[18:32:50] <cmn32480> I'd call it a known quantity
[18:33:10] <cmn32480> and I didn't have poutine yelling at me the whole time
[18:33:10] <janrinok> I'm chuckling away to myself here
[18:33:21] <cmn32480> so it was far less stressful
[18:34:26] <cmn32480> last server finished migrating. now I gotta mek all thei crap work again
[18:34:40] <cmn32480> *now I gotta make all this crap work again
[18:34:41] <janrinok> bon courage!
[18:38:03] <cmn32480> that's better than my employer telling me bon voyage!
[18:41:35] <cmn32480> while I have the system down, I might as well install Windows updates too
[18:41:43] <cmn32480> nothign like changing 10 thigns and hopign for the best!
[18:41:44] <janrinok> wash your mouth out!
[18:41:57] <cmn32480> with coffee?
[18:41:59] <cmn32480> DONE!
[19:08:02] <janrinok> go to go - cu tomorrow?
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