#editorial | Logs for 2015-03-14

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[00:27:17] <n1> anyone object to me rejecting the Jeremy Clarkson submission?
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[02:08:20] <Bytram> n1: ping?
[02:08:52] <n1> pong!
[02:09:02] <n1> sup
[02:09:11] <Bytram> Hi!
[02:09:19] <Bytram> We've got some real characters in the community...
[02:09:27] <Bytram> they're trolling the editors.
[02:09:29] <Bytram> =)
[02:09:39] <n1> who is?
[02:09:51] <Bytram> take alook at the "India Bride Leaves Groom for Failing Math Test" story in the queue
[02:10:31] <Bytram> open it for editing,
[02:10:45] <Bytram> then click on the "Submission" link to see the original submission.
[02:10:52] <Bytram> lemme know when you're there
[02:11:21] <n1> im there
[02:11:25] <Bytram> k.
[02:11:48] <Bytram> do you see the line "Accepted submission by Big Bad Bhavneet at 2015-03-13 14:53:25 1a2df"
[02:11:59] <n1> mhm
[02:12:05] <Bytram> read the line just above it.
[02:12:08] <n1> i know it's ef
[02:12:13] <Bytram> oh.
[02:12:35] <n1> he does that
[02:12:43] <Bytram> I've seen that kind of thing happen once before... a story, supposedly by gewg_ was submitted by someone else
[02:12:46] <n1> i was going to note it, but he's entitled really
[02:12:55] <Bytram> who can karma = 50 -- kinda hard for an AC to do.
[02:12:59] <n1> indeed
[02:13:10] <n1> that was different though, as he was pretending to be gewg
[02:13:20] <Bytram> I ended up attributing it to the actual submitter, though.
[02:13:25] <n1> ef is just being ef, i was going to note it's an alterego of his or something
[02:13:27] <Bytram> good point.
[02:13:41] <n1> yeah, i changed the ones i did
[02:13:49] <n1> after gewg noted they wernt his submissions
[02:13:50] <Bytram> in this case, though, there's also the issue of a 'contrived' and whats-the-word
[02:14:04] <Bytram> ethnic choice of name
[02:14:23] <Bytram> not sure if I feel comfortable running with that
[02:14:29] <Bytram> hard to express exactly why
[02:14:29] <n1> i dont think it's offensive
[02:14:41] <n1> there's nothing apparently vulgar or offensive about it
[02:14:52] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:14:54] <n1> changing it would be a bigger issue in some ways
[02:14:58] <n1> free speech/expression
[02:15:00] <n1> not hurting anyone
[02:15:05] <Bytram> I'm trying to remember... is there a way to submit a story anonymously?
[02:15:18] * Bytram knows I can *comment* anonymously
[02:15:21] <n1> you can submit anon
[02:15:25] <n1> gewg submits anon
[02:15:28] <n1> he doesn't have an account
[02:15:56] <Bytram> yes, but that's not quite what I meant.
[02:15:58] <chromas> Put the name but with <strike> tags around it, then Anonymous Coward :)
[02:16:23] <n1> put ethanol-fueled if we do that
[02:16:30] <n1> sorry Bytram, what do you mean>
[02:16:31] <Bytram> I can be logged in as me, and check a box and submit a comment anonymously... that's different that submitting a comment while I am on the site as an AV
[02:16:36] <Bytram> s/AV/AC/
[02:16:54] <n1> you can do the same for submissions
[02:17:13] <Bytram> ah! that is the answer to the question I was trying to ask!
[02:17:24] <n1> actually you have to log out
[02:17:36] <Bytram> I guess part of me feels 'trolled'
[02:17:36] <n1> but if your ipid is still the same, thats how we see it
[02:17:50] <Bytram> oh yeah, I know about ipids
[02:18:02] <n1> but thats why it comes up as EF even if he did the submission anon
[02:18:18] <Bytram> hmmmm?!?
[02:18:37] * Bytram goes to try and experiment or three... back in a bit!
[02:18:43] <Bytram> and, thanks!
[02:18:43] <n1> i think, if you submit a story anon and someone else has logged in under that ip
[02:18:59] <n1> it will show the submission from that person, from our side like how it showed ef on the india sub
[02:19:03] <n1> i think anyway
[02:19:13] <n1> same with the fake gewg subs
[02:19:27] <Bytram> could well be... I don't recall ever trying that... so now I aim to find out
[02:19:40] <n1> submit and we can see
[02:20:52] <Bytram> I might have found a bug...
[02:21:18] <Bytram> hee's a submission on dev: https://dev.soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=1211&title=looking+to+see+from+whom+this+came
[02:21:18] <NetCraft> ^ 0304SN (dev) Submission by jOE rANDOM uSER: looking to see from whom this came
[02:21:58] <Bytram> there's a text box in which I entered the name 'jOE rANDOM uSER'
[02:22:13] <Bytram> but, it properly atributes it to me having submitted it.
[02:22:31] <Bytram> now test #2
[02:22:40] * Bytram logs out of dev
[02:22:55] <n1> i just did it on prod
[02:22:57] <Bytram> clicks on 'Submit Story'
[02:22:59] <n1> and it didnt show
[02:23:11] <n1> but i might have not made a submission from this ip
[02:23:15] <n1> it doesnt show any on this ipid
[02:24:34] <Bytram> when NOT logged in, the 'Your Name' field is pre-poulated with 'Anonymous Coward' with a note below it saying 'Leave Blank to be Anonymous '... I'll try leaving it blank
[02:24:52] * Bytram clicks submit story
[02:25:18] * Bytram logs back into dev
[02:25:39] * Bytram looks at story submissionin the queue
[02:26:13] <Bytram> absolutely NO attribution to be at all... just shows: '
[02:26:13] <Bytram> Pending submission by at 2015-03-14 02:24:42 53ecf"
[02:26:24] <n1> if you change the name when you're logged in, it does it
[02:26:29] <Bytram> where the last few cars are the IPID
[02:26:31] <n1> but otherwise, it doesn't link them
[02:26:50] <n1> so both ef and the fake gewg were logged in
[02:27:01] <Bytram> agreed
[02:27:42] <Bytram> heh. I just got an error on dev trying to follow that IPID: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[02:27:43] <NetCraft> ^ 03- Dev.SN User
[02:28:10] <Bytram> paste blast:
[02:28:11] <Bytram> HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 02:26:43 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.42 (Unix) mod_perl/1.31 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
[02:28:11] <Bytram> OK
[02:28:11] <Bytram> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[02:28:11] <Bytram> Please contact the server administrator, admin@dev.soylentnews.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
[02:28:13] <Bytram> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[02:28:15] <Bytram> Apache/1.3.42 Server at dev.soylentnews.org Port 2600
[02:28:26] <Bytram> --- end of paste
[02:28:26] <NetCraft> Karma - -: -7
[02:29:00] <n1> yeah, same
[02:29:34] <Bytram> thanks for the confirmation!
[02:29:56] * Bytram is still not especially well-versed at following multiple conversations in IRC
[02:30:11] * Bytram wonders if hexchat provides a multi-paned view.
[02:30:27] <n1> just to add to that mix, we had a bunch of editors in training today!
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[02:30:38] <Bytram> !woop
[02:30:38] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[02:30:50] <n1> here is one of them now
[02:30:58] <n1> hey cmn32480
[02:31:01] <Bytram> I'd seen the volunteering in the site update story... and seen a couple discussions on irc
[02:31:02] <cmn32480> I din't do it.
[02:31:05] <cmn32480> nobody saw me do it
[02:31:12] <cmn32480> you can't prove anythign
[02:31:20] <n1> we have a solution for that, it's called blame Bytram
[02:31:29] Bytram is now known as nobody
[02:31:41] <nobody> cmn32480: nice try, but *I* saw you do it!
[02:31:45] <cmn32480> Damnnit.... nobody saw me do it
[02:31:48] <n1> lol
[02:32:01] nobody is now known as Bytram
[02:32:22] <Bytram> cmn32480: I hear you're practicing to be an editor... welcome aboard!
[02:32:44] * Bytram offers a somewhat, but not too teribly scorched, set of asbestos trousers
[02:32:52] <cmn32480> Since I can't code my way out of a paper bag, it seemed like the logical thing to do
[02:33:47] <n1> paper bags are tricky
[02:33:54] * Bytram suggests the next time you are at the market, to ask for the *plastic* bags!
[02:33:56] <cmn32480> It'll be nice to help out
[02:34:00] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:34:10] <Bytram> cmn32480: it's what got me started in the first place
[02:34:15] <Bytram> I saw a few typos
[02:34:26] <Bytram> reported them on IRC along with suggested rewordings
[02:34:36] <Bytram> afer about a dozen/twenty or so of those
[02:34:46] <Bytram> I suggested it *just* might be a bit easier if I could
[02:34:49] <n1> he couldn't trust me to do a decent job
[02:34:51] <Bytram> make the corrections myself.
[02:34:51] <n1> ;)
[02:34:52] <Bytram> =)
[02:34:59] <cmn32480> yeah, the typos don't bother me so much, I jsut hate seeing people burning themselves out for our benefit
[02:35:37] <Bytram> and then I learned that after about 15 or so minutes on the same story... something starts to affect my perception and I don't see what is really there
[02:35:43] <n1> to provide the quality we want, we need more people
[02:35:55] <Bytram> true that
[02:36:20] <n1> it's really that simple, i wish i could do more, but even if i could we need help
[02:36:33] <Bytram> I saw the story queue was running down, and there were plenty of submissions in the queue so I thought it best to leave some for the new people to practice on
[02:36:41] <n1> very thankful for the support everyone has shown
[02:36:55] <n1> and especially to you guys for stepping up and offering to help out
[02:37:05] <cmn32480> n1: I dropped in to let you know that I submitted a few stories over in dev
[02:37:08] <Bytram> I don't recall when I posted my first story, but I'm past 540 of them so far
[02:37:17] <Bytram> cmn32480++
[02:37:17] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 1
[02:37:19] <Bytram> cmn32480++
[02:37:19] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 2
[02:37:45] <n1> i'll take a look now
[02:37:56] <cmn32480> please take a look and let me know at your convenience.
[02:38:14] <cmn32480> I've submitted sparsly in the last year.
[02:38:33] <cmn32480> my first one was a few weeks after the site went live
[02:39:07] * Bytram generally submits stories when the submission queue runs low, or I see something that I find especially dear to my interests that I doubt others would submit
[02:39:18] <cmn32480> and there have only been a handful since. Usually when the queue gets low is when I send them in
[02:39:42] <cmn32480> when it is somethign I find interesting it is easier to submit
[02:39:47] * Bytram notes we have a few cosmologists who think on the scale of *clusters of galaxies* among our community
[02:39:58] <n1> two original submissions from yourself?
[02:40:01] <Bytram> always look forwards to hearing what they have to offer on those stories
[02:40:33] <cmn32480> one of the ones I dropped in dev for practice was on the Disney MagicBands. Interesting to me, because we went, and my kids all wanna go back.
[02:40:49] <cmn32480> yes sir. I broke the rules and edited them myself too
[02:42:15] <cmn32480> Bytram: there are some seriously smarter than me people in this community
[02:43:00] <Bytram> likewise
[02:43:13] <Bytram> we all have our pockets of ignorance and brilliance
[02:43:36] <cmn32480> I'm just a poor, ignorant network/systems jockey
[02:43:42] <Bytram> Mine is that I cannot not see things that are 'off'
[02:43:45] <Bytram> LOL!
[02:44:03] <Bytram> that's like magic keeping those bits in line and going where they're sposed to!
[02:44:14] <n1> the disney one is like the perfect submission, there's nothing to change. the 'right' thing to do is change the tags to for paragraphs
[02:44:16] <cmn32480> black amgic
[02:44:40] <n1> but otherwise, nothing i'd suggest to change
[02:44:45] * Bytram goes to look at the story submission
[02:45:09] <Bytram> cmn32480: did you submit the stories on dev or production?
[02:45:19] * Bytram does not see them in the submission queue on dev
[02:45:21] <n1> theyre on dev
[02:45:28] <n1> in the stories queue
[02:46:06] <Bytram> Oh! *STORIES* queue! I was looking at the *submissions* queue!
[02:46:09] <Bytram> doh!
[02:46:22] <n1> i did first too ;)
[02:46:23] <cmn32480> n1: please remember, i don't code, and I have a minimal grasp of HTML. The tags notes mean exactly bupkiss to me
[02:46:41] <n1> cmn32480, i don't code either so you're in good company with that
[02:46:55] <cmn32480> I guess this means I have to learn basic HTML?
[02:47:08] <Bytram> won't be long and you'll be using 'em like a pro -- pretty straightforward, once you get over the intial vocabulary building.
[02:47:11] <n1> yeah
[02:47:18] <n1> very basic really
[02:47:19] <cmn32480> understood
[02:47:20] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:47:49] <Bytram> minor typo: "An article in this months" should be "An article in this month's"
[02:47:56] <Bytram> need the possessive form
[02:47:57] <n1> everything you see in your current ones is all you need to know for now
[02:48:45] <cmn32480> blasted apostrophe
[02:48:53] <cmn32480> been tripping me up since grade school.
[02:49:40] <n1> as everyone on sn should know by now, i'm not qualified for this job.
[02:50:02] <cmn32480> I will probably compile a document of the tags that I use for copy paste (unless you guys already have one)
[02:50:06] <Bytram> nor am I! I'm a *science* guy -- not a writer, Jim!
[02:50:32] * Bytram just had to toss in a Star Trek reference
[02:50:55] <n1> any excuse
[02:51:12] <cmn32480> come to think of it, I will probably do it anyway, I don't know what half the ones listed on the comment page mean either....
[02:51:20] <Bytram> cmn32480: when submitting a comment on a story, there is a list of the tags that are permitted... unfortunately, they provide no informtion on what they *do*!
[02:51:28] <Bytram> LOL!
[02:51:30] <cmn32480> don't fault Bytram, I used one earlier.
[02:51:30] <n1> heh
[02:51:54] <Bytram> cmn32480: before you start writing... I've got a reference
[02:52:01] <Bytram> let me see if it's still up on the web somewhere
[02:52:11] <cmn32480> that'd be swell
[02:53:00] <Bytram> IN there beginning, there were just a few HTML elements (commonly referred to as tags, though that is technically incorrect)
[02:53:18] <Bytram> new HTML elements were added over time
[02:53:20] * n1 wont say tags ever again
[02:53:46] <Bytram> n1: tag! you're it!
[02:54:08] <Bytram> !woop
[02:54:08] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[02:54:13] <n1> lol, not fair
[02:54:14] <Bytram> cmn32480: take a look over here: http://www.htmlhelp.com
[02:54:15] <NetCraft> ^ 03HTML 4 Reference
[02:54:30] <cmn32480> can we at least play freeze tag?
[02:54:39] <Bytram> cool!
[02:55:14] <cmn32480> the alphabetical list has been bookmarked.
[02:55:58] * Bytram actaully reads the into and discovers he might have been wrong on the distinction between elements and tags
[02:56:05] <Bytram> s/into/intro/
[02:56:20] <Bytram> cf: http://www.htmlhelp.com
[02:56:20] <NetCraft> ^ 03Structure of an HTML 4 Document
[02:56:43] <Bytram> paste bomb:
[02:56:43] <n1> <a href="http://stuff.com/article.com">this is the story</a> bold italic paragraph
[02:56:44] <Bytram> Elements are the structures that describe parts of an HTML document. For example, the P element represents a paragraph while the EM element gives emphasized content.
[02:56:44] <Bytram> An element has three parts: a start tag, content, and an end tag. A tag is special text--"markup"--that is delimited by "<" and ">". An end tag includes a "/" after the "<". For example, the EM element has a start tag, , and an end tag, . The start and end tags surround the content of the EM element:
[02:56:44] <Bytram> This is emphasized text
[02:56:45] <Bytram> Element names are always case-insensitive, so , , and are all the same.
[02:56:51] <Bytram> EOP
[02:57:39] <Bytram> afk... biab
[02:58:24] <n1> laters Bytram
[02:58:34] <n1> cmn32480: still here?
[02:59:42] <cmn32480> I am
[03:00:02] <n1> just looking at the windows10 story
[03:00:21] <cmn32480> but I do have to start thinking about heading for bed soonish. I have a new server to rack in the morning.
[03:00:35] <cmn32480> ok
[03:02:34] <Bytram> back
[03:03:01] <Bytram> cmn32480: if you don't mind my asking, what time zone are you in?
[03:03:08] * Bytram is in EDT
[03:03:09] <cmn32480> Eastern
[03:03:15] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:03:19] <cmn32480> Just north of Baltimore
[03:03:48] <n1> if im editing that story, i would most likely remove the "much anticipated" bit
[03:03:57] <Bytram> I don't give out my real location but let's just say I am 'north of Boston'
[03:04:12] <Bytram> n1: linky?
[03:04:29] <n1> change "according to" to "zdnet reports"
[03:04:37] <cmn32480> take out the personal Bias
[03:04:37] <n1> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[03:04:38] <NetCraft> ^ 03302 Moved ( https://dev.soylentnews.org )
[03:04:45] <n1> yeah
[03:04:55] <n1> it depends on the type of submission though
[03:04:58] * Bytram waits for browser to load story
[03:05:03] <n1> some submissions are inherently bias one way or another
[03:05:14] <Bytram> you ain't kidding!
[03:05:17] <n1> but that doesnt make them wrong either way
[03:05:51] <Bytram> true
[03:05:58] <n1> same with the "(i.e. MS hasn't backed off this statement)"
[03:06:06] <Bytram> also, 'expected out on March 13' -- that's already gone by
[03:06:06] <n1> let the comments deal with that
[03:06:08] <cmn32480> for our community, anything referencing MS is going to have bias. No way around it. But I need ot be more careful keep that bias from the summary and leave it in the comments.
[03:06:20] <n1> :)
[03:06:29] <n1> you got it
[03:06:49] <Bytram> yuppers on that one
[03:06:57] <cmn32480> I'm trainable. I hardly ever pee on the floor anymore
[03:07:08] <Bytram> as for the future tense reference to the past... :/
[03:07:22] <Bytram> cmn32480: have you seen our #rss-bot channel?
[03:07:38] <Bytram> issue this in your IRC client: /join #rss-bot
[03:07:56] <cmn32480> Bytram: no, I don't hang out on IRC much
[03:08:03] <Bytram> and you can see a feed of various sources from around the net
[03:08:28] <Bytram> nor do I, so thankfully, there's a log of whatever got fed into that channel...
[03:08:48] <Bytram> go here: http://logs.sylnt.us
[03:08:56] <Bytram> to choose among the logged channels
[03:09:16] <Bytram> click on '#rss-bot' to get the list of dates that have log entries in 'em
[03:09:33] <Bytram> scroll down to the bottom and click the last couple of links to catch up on stuff
[03:09:52] <Bytram> OOOoooops!
[03:10:07] <Bytram> looks like #rss-bot logging stopped on 2015-03-07 !?!
[03:10:33] <n1> someone done broke it
[03:10:51] <cmn32480> It wasn't me
[03:10:54] <cmn32480> honest
[03:11:10] <n1> it was probably juggs
[03:13:19] <cmn32480> I'll check in on it periodically.
[03:14:06] <n1> cmn32480: overall the stories you've done are great
[03:14:26] <n1> when you have time, if want to do a couple more to brush up on the html, find a story or two in the submissions queue on dev
[03:16:18] <cmn32480> n1, thanks for the feedback. I fixed the MS story.
[03:18:06] <cmn32480> I think the HTML is something that is going to need practice. But I think the biggest help will be me getting into one or two stories on dev and playing with the tags to see how things react.
[03:19:10] <n1> sounds good to me, i can make a couple submissions for you to tidy up with the common stuff you might encounter
[03:20:10] <cmn32480> that'd be a help.
[03:20:35] <cmn32480> copy paste straight from some of the cruft in the production queue?
[03:20:59] <n1> it'll be easier for me to create one
[03:21:31] <n1> i'll do it over the weekend, but feel free whenever to have a look at whats already there, or copy over something yourself from production
[03:22:56] <cmn32480> gotcha. I'll take a crack at that over the next couple days.
[03:23:15] <n1> if you have any questions, you can always drop by here. one of bytram, janrinok, mrcoolbp, laminatorx and myself should be able to help
[03:23:51] <n1> not paulej72, he's trouble.
[03:24:06] <cmn32480> hehehe
[03:24:26] <cmn32480> I appreciate the guidance.
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[03:24:41] <cmn32480> I'm gonna hit the sack. Gotta play wiht that new server tomorrow.
[03:24:56] <cmn32480> have a good weekend!
[03:24:57] <n1> take care, have a good weekend :)
[03:25:00] <n1> heh
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[03:26:20] <n1> scared them off again
[03:26:38] <Bytram> ROFL!
[03:27:11] <n1> its weird to see these new names in the stories queue
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[04:33:31] <Bytram|away> g'night eveeryone!
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[08:49:36] <cosurgi> whoa! I just saw this post http://soylentnews.org Did Appalbarry join IRC?
[08:49:37] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Appalbarry (66)
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[12:36:35] <n1> mornin' janrinok, Bytram
[12:36:46] <Bytram> n1: norning!
[12:40:20] <n1> how goes
[12:43:06] <Bytram> was tired but not sleepy enough last night... didnt get to bed til 0130
[12:43:12] <Bytram> and woke at 0700
[12:43:17] <Bytram> snzzzzzzz.
[12:44:24] <n1> :(
[12:44:28] <n1> busy day planned?
[12:47:21] <mrcoolbp> n1: I'm at work for ~14hrs today, no editor training for me, thanks for the help ^
[12:47:26] <Bytram> yuppers
[12:47:33] <mrcoolbp> I have to leave in a few, just wanted to say hi, and thanks
[12:47:43] <Bytram> mrcoolbp++ hang in there buddy!
[12:47:43] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 5
[12:49:09] <n1> mrcoolbp++
[12:49:09] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 6
[12:49:33] <n1> i should be around most of the day, going to change locations shortly but i'll be lurking
[12:56:11] <janrinok> hi nick - queues are up to date until monday lunchtime - take it easy for the w/e
[12:56:39] <n1> yeah i see youve been a man on a mission this morning
[12:56:45] <n1> good work
[12:57:10] <janrinok> I did it slowly over a period of time
[12:58:02] <n1> still a lot of work
[12:59:03] <janrinok> ...but we can rest now :)
[12:59:30] <n1> seems like we got 4 eds through training yesterday?
[13:00:09] <janrinok> yes, impressive. Give them a few days to find their feet and for LamX to decide if they are up to snuff, and we could be looking good by the middle of the week
[13:00:29] <n1> i think CoolHand|away is ready
[13:00:40] <n1> the others probably need to play on dev some more
[13:01:05] <janrinok> bit tired today but only because I was watching Comic Relief later than I should have been
[13:01:25] <n1> cmn32480 needs to get more comfortable with basic html, i'm going to make some submissions on dev for him to work on which will cover all the normal stuff we encounter
[13:01:43] <n1> you rebel!
[13:02:04] <janrinok> it can be a bit of a shock when you first see html or come face to face with our 'editor'
[13:02:15] <janrinok> lol
[13:02:35] <n1> staying up late watching comedy shows, kids these days...
[13:02:54] <janrinok> yeah, what is the world coming to?
[13:03:25] <janrinok> I even had a cup of tea while watching! A bit of a drinker when I get wild
[13:03:44] <n1> thats rock n roll
[13:04:43] <janrinok> I'll be doing chemical abuse with chocolate biscuits within weeks, I guess
[13:05:02] <n1> it's a slippery slope
[13:05:10] <janrinok> ..and down I slide
[13:05:23] <n1> i'll see you at the bottom :p
[13:05:32] <janrinok> at least I don't get told to grow up anymore
[13:05:52] <n1> only because you're a lost cause
[13:06:22] <janrinok> probably, is it that obvious?
[13:06:27] <n1> ;)
[13:06:38] <n1> i need to get moving
[13:06:43] <janrinok> have a good one
[13:06:46] <Bytram> n1: have a great day!
[13:06:46] <n1> will be back in a while from another location
[13:06:50] <janrinok> k
[13:06:51] <Bytram> janrinok: g'morning!
[13:06:55] <n1> take care janrinok, Bytram
[13:07:04] * Bytram is busy trying to help sleuth out some site authorization issues
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[13:07:09] <janrinok> Bytram: and good afternoon to you too, good sir
[13:07:36] <janrinok> I was watching your chat on another channel about that...
[13:08:16] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:08:30] <janrinok> anything I can help with from here?
[13:10:56] <Bytram> not that I am aware of... I'm just trying stuff and probviding documentation of what I tried so that the real devs have a better understanding of what is going on
[13:11:52] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: I'm on my way out, please help coordinate new editors
[13:12:00] <janrinok> will do
[13:12:00] <mrcoolbp> have not seen cactus yet
[13:12:05] <janrinok> nor I
[13:12:25] <mrcoolbp> FatPhil made an appearence but I don't think he knows the editor interface yet (not sure)
[13:12:38] <janrinok> OK, you have a good w/e
[13:12:49] <mrcoolbp> NotSanguine and Coolhand are pretty trained, stories emailed to Lamx
[13:13:00] <Bytram> !woop
[13:13:00] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[13:13:01] <janrinok> its coming on well
[13:13:02] <FatPhil> nope, sorry, was boozing yesterday
[13:13:14] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480, Phoenix666, and hendrik3 are still currently in training
[13:13:17] <mrcoolbp> janrinok^
[13:13:21] <janrinok> lol - that's what Fridays are for....
[13:13:25] <FatPhil> and today's boozing is just about to begin...
[13:13:27] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: seen
[13:13:31] <mrcoolbp> I'll be out till monday likely, so email me if you need anything
[13:13:33] <mrcoolbp> later guys
[13:13:37] <janrinok> will do laters
[13:13:46] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: ciao, for now!
[13:13:47] <mrcoolbp> thank
[13:13:49] <mrcoolbp> s
[13:14:01] * mrcoolbp is off to work for the weekend
[13:14:10] <janrinok> sorry to hear that mrcoolbp
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[13:15:20] <janrinok> FatPhil: do you want to do any training today, or would you prefer to leave it for another time?
[13:17:47] * Bytram|afk has to get a start on his day... back in a half hour or so. and then off to work
[13:17:59] <janrinok> Bytram|afk: take care mate
[13:29:34] <FatPhil> janrinok: today's probably a write-off.
[13:29:43] <FatPhil> I'm still reading the wiki page
[13:30:27] <janrinok> np - we can do at anytime that suits. Have a good one, and hope the hangover goes soon...;)
[13:31:13] <FatPhil> I don't get hangovers - that's why I booze so much!
[13:31:26] <FatPhil> Alcoholics' genes FTW!
[13:31:34] <janrinok> lol
[13:32:14] <janrinok> I only have to look at a bottle from 10 paces to start getting a headache!
[13:32:24] <janrinok> still love my beer though
[13:32:41] <FatPhil> We're wondering how confrontational we should be today. outdoor drinking's been outlawed in town, but it's a beatutifully sunny (if freezing cold) day, so I want to tick outside.
[13:33:54] <janrinok> go for it - as long as you are not offending anyone or getting silly-drunk they will probably only give you a warning at first, if you get caught at all.
[13:37:26] <FatPhil> We've done it before - http://theanna.org - Phase 2 (the orthodox cathedral one) took place right opposite the parliament building - there were police coming and going all the time!
[13:37:29] <NetCraft> ^ 03Rochefort
[13:39:20] <janrinok> Interesting pics
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[14:41:44] <janrinok> hi again n1
[14:41:54] <n1> ahoy
[14:42:07] <janrinok> very nautical again...
[14:42:49] <janrinok> how did your dinner go last night?
[14:43:10] <n1> good dinner and good conversation
[14:43:11] <n1> so well
[14:43:28] <janrinok> I enjoy that sort of thing
[14:43:55] <n1> me too
[14:44:25] <n1> i have ostrich burgers for dinner tonight
[14:44:29] <n1> decided to treat myself
[14:45:05] <janrinok> sounds good. I'm cooking chinese-style belly pork
[14:45:16] <n1> sounds rather good too!
[14:45:55] <n1> i take it you rejected the jeremy clarkson story?
[14:46:17] <janrinok> I can feel a 'What-did-you-eat-for-dinner' nexus when the updates finally become active :)
[14:46:33] <janrinok> I did, yes. It's not really our sort of thing
[14:47:02] <n1> i'd like that, a bit of light relief, where i'd home people cant have arguments about food
[14:47:36] <n1> as someone who has watched top gear literally all my life, jeremy clarkson can do what he likes, he does not need our or anyone else's support.
[14:47:56] <janrinok> I suspect that bacon and other such american 'delicacies' will feature quite highly though...
[14:48:31] <n1> been a lack of bacon@SN lately
[14:49:07] <janrinok> I'm trying to think who it was who was always keen on it, perhaps they have moved on from here
[14:54:39] <n1> maybe
[14:55:25] <n1> i know we refrained from going mad with it on the site because bacon isn't culturally relevant to a lot of people
[14:55:53] <n1> didnt want to alienate people with the bacon theme
[14:55:55] <janrinok> yes, I remember that
[15:12:56] <janrinok> are you busy?
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[15:24:14] <n1> i was but im here now
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[17:08:17] <TLA> oh there ye are
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[18:22:07] <paulej72> anyone still arround
[18:25:30] <n1> yeah
[18:25:49] <n1> whats going on, paulej72?
[18:26:10] <paulej72> want to put some comments and mods on dev. I need some testing material
[18:26:38] <n1> sure
[18:26:39] <n1> on my way
[18:32:18] <n1> thrown up some comments and used my mod points
[18:32:25] <n1> need more comments?
[18:33:22] <paulej72> I should have enonough now.
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[20:52:44] <n1> ostrich burgers are good
[20:54:53] <janrinok> so is chinese style belly pork, but I wouldn't mind trying an ostrich steak sometime
[20:55:18] <janrinok> how have you cooked it, plain or with a sauce?
[20:56:35] <n1> plain, but i have put some bbq sauce on it now
[20:56:44] <n1> it had some seasoning in the burgers already, but not much
[20:58:48] <n1> a steak would be fine on its own i'd think
[20:58:56] <janrinok> I'm told it is very lean and healthy
[21:00:11] <n1> yeah
[21:00:36] <n1> very low fat
[21:01:29] <janrinok> I've not seen it for sale around here. maybe in a big city, but not in the more rural locations.
[21:03:20] <n1> i actually picked these up from the well known exotic meat shop iceland...
[21:04:00] <n1> decided ostrich burgers were a better bet than the crocodile ones
[21:04:08] <janrinok> it's the same with Lidl, just because things are cheap doesn't mean they are rubbish.
[21:04:28] <n1> i dont go very often but iceland does do some great stuff
[21:04:59] <n1> but they do real shit also, so you do have to learn what the good stuff is
[21:05:45] <janrinok> yep, you can find shit in any shop but a little judicious searching never goes amiss
[21:08:12] <janrinok> well, I think that we've babysat the site for long enough today. Have a good evening and hope to see you again tomorrow?
[21:09:50] <n1> yeah, i'll be around tomorrow
[21:09:54] <n1> take care :)
[21:10:03] <n1> good night, janrinok
[21:10:06] <janrinok> and you mate
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