#editorial | Logs for 2014-09-05
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[13:44:20] <Azrael> yo peeps
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[13:59:19] <janrinok> hi guys
[14:00:07] <Azrael> hey janrinok
[14:00:24] <janrinok> Hi Azrael how's things with you?
[14:01:10] <Azrael> life is a little busy, but things are good. How're you?
[14:01:44] <janrinok> I had to call the doc in for S - And the result is that _I've_ been told to rest because of exhaustion!
[14:06:28] <Azrael> eeek!!
[14:06:37] <Azrael> I hope you have your feet up!!
[14:06:49] <janrinok> I know that I was tired - but I wasn't expecting that!
[14:09:29] <Azrael> have you subsequently been getting more rest?
[14:11:09] <janrinok> Well, it only happened yesterday, but I've had 12 hours sleep. However, S still needs fairly constant care so I cannot simply do nothing. My parents in law (84 yrs old!) are here until Monday and they help where they can, but I still have to dedicate a fair bit of my time to S.
[14:14:26] <Azrael> *nods* rock and a hard place :/
[14:15:21] <janrinok> yep - but now that eds are returning from the summer break I'm hoping to be able to slow down on my editing tasks a little, particularly over the w/e.
[14:17:30] <Azrael> I noticed we left you to a fair chunk of the work :/
[14:17:45] <janrinok> lol - it can't be helped.
[14:31:09] <janrinok> LamX - have you killed the systemd cabal story?
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[14:39:27] <LaminatorX> Hi everybody.
[14:40:42] <LaminatorX> Janrinok, I tossed the systemd story to 25:00. We covered that same article earlier this week.
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[14:42:43] <janrinok> LaminatorX: Ah, I missed th earlier version
[14:46:17] <janrinok> LaminatorX: I've been told by my doc - who I had called in to help with a problem with S - that I have to rest due to exhaustion! I'll been slowing down a little over the next few days until she is happy again.
[14:46:50] <LaminatorX> Take care. No burnout allowed!
[14:47:07] <janrinok> lol - she didn't say stop, just rest more...
[14:47:07] * Bytram|away revs his engine and pops the clutch
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[14:47:16] <Bytram> janrinok: hiya!
[14:47:20] <Bytram> LaminatorX: g'morning!
[14:47:30] <janrinok> hi Bytram - how's things?
[14:47:44] <Bytram> good thanks, just saw you needed some rest... DO IT!
[14:48:23] <Bytram> I just checked the Authors page, and at last count you'd postd *936* stories!
[14:49:21] <janrinok> yep - I'm slowly getting to the big 1000
[14:49:58] <Bytram> yeah, but is that in Hex, Decimal, Octal, or Binary? =)
[14:50:10] <Bytram> j/k
[14:50:15] <LaminatorX> Site as a whole will break 3k stories today.
[14:50:20] <LaminatorX> !whoop
[14:50:31] <LaminatorX> ~whoop
[14:50:36] <janrinok> that's not a bad achievement
[14:50:38] <Bytram> but seriously, I've been through burnout... it's easier to get into it, than it is to get out. DO take care!
[14:50:43] <Bytram> !woop
[14:50:43] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[14:50:54] <janrinok> I will, and thx to you both for the concern.
[14:51:12] <Bytram> speaking of stories, I can't for the life of me get to linux.com to check the links in a story I put up.
[14:51:34] * LaminatorX cannot spell, "woop."
[14:51:41] <Bytram> here's the story edit link: http://soylentnews.org
[14:51:41] <monopoly> ^ 03- SoylentNews User ( http://soylentnews.org )
[14:51:51] <janrinok> I've got it here - what URL do you want checking?
[14:51:55] <Bytram> here's the linux.com link: http://www.linux.com
[14:52:08] <Bytram> see, even monopoly can't find it.
[14:52:49] <Bytram> I've tried a couple things from my end (ping and tracert, no joy) as well as some on-line tools to ping it... mixed results at best.
[14:53:00] <Bytram> http://linux.com
[14:53:02] <monopoly> ^ 03Linux.com | The source for Linux information ( http://www.linux.com )
[14:53:06] <Bytram> http://www.linux.com
[14:53:07] <monopoly> ^ 03Linux.com | The source for Linux information
[14:53:09] <janrinok> I've got in on 1 machine but not on the other - they appear to be having server probs
[14:53:15] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:53:26] <LaminatorX> Everybody keep an eye on pronouns and prepositions in headlines. I've been de-capitalizing a lot of them on second looks lately.
[14:53:57] <janrinok> also nods, because it's probably aimed at me...
[14:54:32] <Bytram> so, I think the story is interesting, but the title for it started with "$99 Open Parallel Computing..." and I could find nothing in the submission to confirm the $99 price, in fact it looks like all the listed prices were higher.
[14:54:44] <Bytram> LaminatorX: will do; I've fixed a few, too.
[14:55:16] <LaminatorX> It's everyone, I am also guilty at times.
[14:55:52] <Bytram> simple, in concept, but there are way too many times when I wonder whether a certain word should or should not be capitalized
[14:56:52] <janrinok> I've got that link working fine on one machine and not at all on another sitting right next to it - both connected to the same router!
[14:57:00] <LaminatorX> The one we blow most often is, "You."
[14:57:30] <Bytram> janrinok: one of your intertubes must be clogged!
[14:58:25] <janrinok> the headline def says $99 and the article says '$99 price tag'. Does that help Bytram ?
[14:58:34] <Bytram> hmmmm
[14:59:35] <janrinok> I think it refers to the manufacturing price and not the retail price but the article is not too clear on that.
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[15:02:06] <janrinok> hi again Bytram|away . The price in the headline is correctly quoted, but none of the sources are actually selling it for that price.
[15:02:11] <Bytram> sry about that; downside of a tethered phone. :(
[15:02:20] <Bytram> janrinok: exactly!!!
[15:02:42] <Bytram> that's why I struck it from the headline until I could confirm the $99 figure.
[15:03:39] <janrinok> I think that it is intended to be the target price for large scale production - so far only 10000 boards have been made - but they quote so many figures it is a bit of a marketing smoke-and-mirrors piece. Still it has great potential.
[15:04:49] <Bytram> oh yeah, potential++, but if there's nothing available at $99, then I don't think it should be in the headline without a *very clear* explanation. Easier to omit it, for now.
[15:04:55] <Bytram> just wanted to point it out, is all.
[15:05:12] <janrinok> good spot
[15:05:45] <Bytram> LaminatorX: btw, computers are helpful with some things =) It ain't gonna cover everything, but here's something we might be able to adapt for use on the site: http://www.yaldex.com
[15:05:46] <monopoly> ^ 03Perl Tutorial
[15:06:00] <Bytram> "Recipe 1.14 Properly Capitalizing a Title or Headline"
[15:06:58] <janrinok> That would make our lives a little bit easier - but much more consistent!
[15:07:24] <Bytram> LaminatorX: also, I'm looking at the stories page which shows 40 stories, and at the bottom it says "3003 more" !!!
[15:08:00] <Bytram> it's not all rainbows, though, as further down it points out some "issues" with a mechanically-performed process
[15:08:26] <Bytram> for example:
[15:08:26] <Bytram> This kind of approach can take you only so far, though, because it doesn't distinguish between words that can be several parts of speech. Some prepositions on the list might also double as words that should always be capitalized, such as subordinating conjunctions, adverbs, or even adjectives. For example, it's "Down by the Riverside" but "Getting By on Just $30 a Day", or "A Ringing in My Ears" but "B
[15:08:26] <Bytram> ringing In the Sheaves".
[15:09:48] <Bytram> then again, we could just re-define "proper headline capitalization for the site" to be whatever that program produces. ;-)
[15:09:56] <janrinok> I'm getting disapproving looks from my better half - I think she wants me to rest :) Probably cu guys later.
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[15:10:10] <Bytram> okay, just got a call from work and they want me to come in early; so I gotta go, too.
[15:10:15] <Bytram> janrinok|afk: take care!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:10:25] <janrinok|afk> thx - you have a good one!
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[15:13:33] <Bytram|away> finally was able to load: http://www.linux.com
[15:14:01] <Bytram|away> but still no joy for monopoly :(
[15:14:14] <Bytram|away> I guess the site is still 'flapping'.
[15:14:18] <Bytram|away> ok, gtg!
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