#editorial | Logs for 2014-08-15
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[13:12:42] <janrinok> hi guys
[13:12:50] <LaminatorX> Hello.
[13:12:58] <janrinok> hi LaminatorX how's things?
[13:15:19] <LaminatorX> Pretty good. Worked a jazz show last night, oldest daughter started kindergarten, and the jack-booted thugs seems to have surrendered North County to actual human beings.
[13:16:22] <janrinok> that sounds like a good day. And you a proud Dad too! How was the jazz show?
[13:17:08] <LaminatorX> A pleasant surprise. It was also fortuitously the night that I forgot my earplugs at home, and ended up not needing any.
[13:17:52] <LaminatorX> Life's little victories.
[13:18:41] <janrinok> ...and not so little! Its a big step for your daughter and you deserve the credit for getting her to this point.
[13:19:58] <LaminatorX> Thanks. I still haven't heard back from that QA job. They apperantly had a deployment for their largest client go weird this week and haven't had time to check my or the other finalist's references. It seems they need to not only hite a QA person, but an HR one as well.
[13:21:26] <janrinok> Well I'll keep my fingers crossed for you! I note that Az has posted a couple of stories - do you know if he is back from his holiday yet? It's been getting busy round here!
[13:22:31] <LaminatorX> Well, he's at least signed in on this channel. (Hi, Azrael.)
[13:24:22] <janrinok> You say it has all gone quiet in N County. What is the current state of play?
[13:28:20] <LaminatorX> The Governor of the State of Missouri, took over, pulled out all the County Police with their APCs, body armor, gas masks, and M-16s, and sent in the Highway Partol (who answer to the State of Missouri rather than local government in regular police unifowms headed up by a Captain who just happens to be a black man from Ferguson.
[13:29:09] <LaminatorX> Said Captain takes the radical step of walking iup to the protesters and talking to them like people, rather than The Enemy. the
[13:30:04] <janrinok> Brave man - but he behaved like he should have done; I hope he gets the credit for it.
[13:30:04] <LaminatorX> Peaceful marches ensue, with the Patrollmen directing traffic and such.
[13:30:39] <LaminatorX> Yeah, talk about the right man for the job.
[13:32:27] <janrinok> What on earth made the original force act the way that they did? It just seems so obviously wrong to me, as an outsider, and the result could have been predicted by almost anyone (except the Ferguson police chief apparently)
[13:37:25] <LaminatorX> I have to think fear, somehow. It's tempting to just write it off as authoritarian assholery, but I think fear of being held responsible for failing to contain widespread chaos and destruction. That never even began to happen though. The rioting only even began when the stormtroopers showed up. Their agressive posture instigated the very thing they were trying to prevent.
[13:38:40] <LaminatorX> "People do stupid things when they're afraid." would be a good summary for the week.
[13:39:39] <janrinok> An incredible series of poor decisions and blunders - I hope that lessons have been learned. But I am pleased that things have settled down for the time being. The next hurdle is how the officer responsible for firing the shots is now brought to account. That is a good summary idea!
[13:41:23] <LaminatorX> Anonymous totally crushed the city's network once the teargas started flying too. They couldn't even make phone-calls.
[13:43:29] <janrinok> It was a good sign of protest - but I wonder how many emergency calls or other urgent messages were also interrupted?
[13:43:57] <janrinok> Joe Public pays the price no matter who causes the initial problem.
[13:44:52] <LaminatorX> It is dicey, yes.
[13:46:06] <janrinok> Any estimates on the cost of the damages as a result of the riots - or are they waiting until they know it is all over?
[13:47:15] <LaminatorX> I haven't heard any. What's sad is a lot of insurance policies explicitly exclude riots.
[13:48:16] <janrinok> Yes, we had the same problem during the London riots a few years back. The Government stepped in eventually and helped businesses get back on their feet, but of course it is never enough and some people lose out.
[13:52:29] <janrinok> How did your daughter enjoy her first day?
[13:54:09] <janrinok> brb - time for tea!
[14:02:20] <janrinok> The world has improved considerably in the last 5 minutes - I now have a cup of tea!
[14:02:45] <LaminatorX> First day went well, thanks.
[14:03:25] <janrinok> Was she full of excitement at going or rather apprehensive?
[14:06:54] <LaminatorX> She was a little nervous the night before, but she went in strong.
[14:07:11] <janrinok> good for her - she probably gets that from her Dad!
[14:16:23] <LaminatorX> Her first day was surely better than mine. I got scolded for not being able to spell my 13-letter German last name. I actually gave it the old kindergarten try and sounded it out, but got an English phoenetic spelling rather than the Germanic spelling. Rather than noting "Hey, this kid can sound-out complex words things out already." she pointed out that the gitl sitting next to me, Mary Lewis, could spell her name, so why couldn't
[14:17:00] <LaminatorX> I wasn't snarky enough at that age to respond by spelling, "Mary Lewis."
[14:17:18] <janrinok> lol! And still you remember the incident - she scarred you for life!
[14:20:03] <LaminatorX> Pretty much. My anti-authoritarian streak can be traced to that moment.
[14:25:41] <janrinok> LaminatorX: I've just posted a story about Robin Williams and Parkinson's Disease - I'm not sure if it is something that we should be publishing or not. Can you give it a look sometime please, and delete it if you think it is inappropriate for SN.
[14:27:19] <LaminatorX> I'd say Williams is sufficiently beloved to rate as general interest, and there is a science angle.
[14:27:48] <janrinok> OK thx for that - we've both been getting a bit of flak from the community regarding various stories over the last week or so!
[14:29:02] <LaminatorX> We'll always get some of that. Just be sure to bookend it with nice crunchy ones.
[14:29:37] <janrinok> Oh, it comes as no surprise but I do have to stop and think how I could have done it better.
[14:34:08] <LaminatorX> Oh, that's easy. Don't forget to put in a Department next time. :D
[14:34:31] <janrinok> I left it out because I couldn't think of any relevant....
[14:34:55] <janrinok> ...but you were spot on!
[14:35:22] <LaminatorX> I've used that one on sad/serious stuff before. Shame it was so apropos.
[14:51:04] <janrinok> I'm going to stop processing stories for a while and hope the queue grows before the weekend!
[14:51:30] <LaminatorX> Take it easy.
[14:52:03] <janrinok> Oh, I've still got another half hour or so online before I have to go and do my domestic chores!
[14:59:25] <janrinok> The BBC have just released the Ferguson story - including naming the officer concerned.
[15:14:12] <LaminatorX> Yeah, I'm watching a news conference now.
[15:24:12] <janrinok> cul8r
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[17:17:25] <Azrael> janrinok|afk, LaminatorX: hi hi :D still away on my hols, I try to pop in and 2nd Ed or post a story when I can :) (belated response)
[17:22:17] <LaminatorX> Keep having fun.
[17:24:41] <Azrael> :D
[17:30:43] <janrinok|afk> Azrael: Enjoy your hol! - But thanks for 2nd Ed'ing from time to time - much appreciated.
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[19:49:22] <janrinok> got to go - bye all
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