#editorial | Logs for 2014-07-21

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[13:20:42] <n1> sorry ive not been able to do any editing yet today, barely had time to think about anything, and no time to eat :/
[13:24:45] <Bytram> n1: no worries. System hiccuped about 4hrs ago... got us scurrying a bit!
[13:24:58] <Bytram> I pushed out a story... I should prolly check the queue
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[13:30:15] <lhsi> Has the email-on-story-rejection policy stopped recently? I've gotten some before, but not for a rejection today
[13:31:51] <n1> lhsi, as far as I know we're not doing that anymore generally.
[13:32:04] <n1> Can't remember the exact reasoning./
[13:35:06] <lhsi> Fair enough. Its usually a rare occurrence, but I do remember getting some in the past and didn't remember seeing an announcement (but that's not to say there wasn't an announcement that I missed)
[13:36:30] <n1> I think we ended up getting mixed reactions from rejection emails, it was never a formal policy just a 'best practice' kind of thing.
[13:38:09] <lhsi> I know there was a bug/feature in GitHub for having story-feedback built into the site, which would be better than sending an email anyway
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[14:04:44] <janrinok> hi guys
[14:11:02] <Azrael> yoyo
[14:11:12] <janrinok> hi Azrael - how's things?
[14:14:58] <janrinok> Azrael: your lastest 2 stories are separated by 15 minutes on purpose?
[14:22:48] <janrinok> Azrael: did you get my last message? ^^^
[14:24:24] <janrinok> Bytram: your 'system issues' message never went out at all - I assume that was intentional. What was the tech problem?
[14:31:00] <Azrael> janrinok: hiya, odd, I deliberately did the BBC one just before the NSA one, then changed the time on NSA one to 23:**
[14:31:08] <Azrael> I think maybe that didn't save right
[14:31:29] <Azrael> I'll push it even further out now :)
[14:32:52] <janrinok> OK - avoid the new posts!
[14:33:59] <Azrael> ??
[14:34:04] <janrinok> thx Az - from now on we had better go back to 2 hr spacing. Leave your latest move where it is, and we will start from there. I'm showing only 9 stories in the sub queue.
[14:34:08] <Azrael> ahh
[14:34:22] <Azrael> avoid clashing with yours, yes, I pushed to tomorrow
[14:34:34] <janrinok> yes, I saw that, thx
[14:34:39] <Azrael> do you want to push one of your two into tomorrow?
[14:35:13] <janrinok> No, leave what we have now, but start 2 hr spacing until the subs start coming in again....
[14:35:14] <Azrael> perhaps iphone to 23:00 and microbes to tomorrow 3amish ?
[14:35:17] <Azrael> ok
[14:35:49] <Bytram> heads up....
[14:36:04] <janrinok> If past experience is anything to go by, the subs start at about lunchtime on Eastern US coast.
[14:36:18] <Bytram> there's an updated version of NCommander's long postponed post-incorporation post that is likely to go live VERY SOON
[14:36:25] <Azrael> woooo
[14:36:32] <janrinok> hi Bytram - how's things. You been having tech problems?
[14:36:51] <janrinok> Bytram: its live now
[14:37:05] <janrinok> I've just read it!
[14:37:22] <NCommander> Oh, crap, I realized there are some more things I need to put on it
[14:37:23] <NCommander> Shit
[14:37:29] <janrinok> correction - its live in the queue, that's where I got it from
[14:37:34] <NCommander> We had a second board meeting, and the policy crap
[14:37:34] <Azrael> :)
[14:37:37] * NCommander does quick edits
[14:37:41] <janrinok> NCommander: still time to fix it"
[14:38:29] <janrinok> NCommander: you've got a few hours yet until it hits the front page!
[14:39:24] <janrinok> Bytram: can I move your story so that a) it gets better coverage, and b) it spreads the stories better?
[14:39:41] <Bytram> NCommander: the 2nd board meeting was basically that we agreed to hold Board Meetings on IRC.
[14:39:59] <Bytram> janrinok: which one?
[14:40:10] <janrinok> the NASA awards
[14:40:31] <janrinok> its 1 minute before NC's short post
[14:40:47] <Bytram> janrinok: no problem. things were awful lean, so I grabbed the best I could find in the queue and put in at a rather spaced-out interval to try and help us make it through.
[14:40:58] <Bytram> janrinok: go ahead
[14:41:24] <Bytram> janrinok: hold on!
[14:41:30] <NCommander> Bytram, I added a quick addenium
[14:41:46] <Bytram> NCommander: lemme go look. brb
[14:42:02] <Bytram> janrinok: just make mine a nodisplay for the moment. K?
[14:42:28] <janrinok> Bytram: OK, and I'll move it by a few hours anyway
[14:43:03] <Bytram> janrinok: FYI. as soon as the nc post is ready, it's prolly gonna go live immediately.
[14:43:28] <Bytram> NCommander: the 2nd board meeting *is* on the wiki... me goes in search
[14:43:36] <janrinok> lol - I'm fingers off kbd until I know what is going to happen....
[14:45:43] <mrcoolbp> Bytram is adding the wiki link
[14:45:58] <Bytram> nd nod
[14:45:59] <janrinok> hi mrcoolbp
[14:46:02] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:46:02] <mrcoolbp> heya
[14:46:07] <mrcoolbp> sup janrinok?
[14:46:13] <janrinok> good - you?
[14:46:19] <mrcoolbp> not bad, not bad
[14:46:26] <janrinok> had enough coffee yet?
[14:46:32] <mrcoolbp> not quite yet
[14:46:35] * mrcoolbp chugs
[14:46:46] <NCommander> Bytram, can you edit that in for me?
[14:46:53] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: he is already
[14:46:54] <Bytram> already in there
[14:47:46] <NCommander> I <3 you guys
[14:48:27] <mrcoolbp> = )
[14:48:52] <Bytram> NCommander: here's the new version:
[14:48:52] <Bytram> ADDENDUM: Since I originally wrote this, we've had our
[14:48:53] <Bytram> <a href="http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_-_July_16,_2014">second Board Meeting</a>, which was mostly expanding on points above and below. Furthermore, we're working on trying to set a regular time for holding meetings. Up-to-now, its been a relatively ad-hoc affair decided a day or two in advance due to having to accommodate multiple schedules. Our board meetings are open
[14:48:53] <Bytram> to the public on the #staff channel on IRC. I'll put the time of the next one in the Site News box as soon as it is determined. 
[14:49:49] <Bytram> we should also have something about the Agenda for the meeting being posted in advance. hmmm, brb
[14:50:14] <NCommander> Perfect
[14:51:16] <Bytram> uh oh. I no longer have a text cursor in the text-entry box. Am saving, but I need to go back and make a chnge.
[14:52:25] <Bytram> NCommander: okay, here's the updated one:
[14:52:26] <Bytram> ADDENDUM: Since I originally wrote this, we've had our
[14:52:26] <Bytram> <a href="http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_-_July_16,_2014">second Board Meeting</a>, which was mostly expanding on points above and below. Furthermore, we're working on trying to set a regular time for holding meetings. Up-to-now, its been a relatively ad-hoc affair decided a day or two in advance due to having to accommodate multiple schedules. Our board meetings are open
[14:52:26] <Bytram> to the public on the #staff channel on IRC. I'll update the Site News box with the date and a link to where the agenda can be found as soon as it is determined. 
[14:52:28] <Bytram> 
[14:53:24] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: hmm, not sure that needs to go on the sitenews box...
[14:53:55] <Bytram> bylaws, IIRC, require the agenda be avail for a period of time in advance of the board meeting, too.
[14:54:07] <mrcoolbp> 10 days?
[14:54:12] <Bytram> sounds right
[14:54:43] <Bytram> if we're gonna have bylaws, we should follow them.
[14:54:47] <mrcoolbp> bytram: or two business leap-weeks, whichever comes first = )
[14:54:54] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: LOL!
[14:55:29] <Bytram> there is a mechanism in the bylaws to deal with stuff that comes up after the agenda is posted.
[14:56:06] * Bytram can't remember *what* it is, but seems to remember there was something.
[14:56:06] <mrcoolbp> bytram: okay, well I read that the notice needed to be provided to board members in advance, though we could post it to the site news box, but we'd have to remember to do that
[14:56:45] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: good point. but is there a reason for not posting the agenda ahead of time?
[14:57:25] <janrinok> Bytram: I would have thought the opposite would be true - there should be agenda if it is known. But that's only my guess.
[14:57:26] <Bytram> ok, let's separate the mechanism from the need for it... I'll strike the agenda part
[14:57:31] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: for the previous meetings it was only because we were having scheduling issues (mostly due to my erradic schedule) though I plan on just taking the evening off in the future
[14:57:52] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: perfect
[14:59:02] <Bytram> NCommander: okay... here's the latest try...
[14:59:02] <Bytram> 
[14:59:03] <Bytram> ADDENDUM: Since I originally wrote this, we've had our
[14:59:03] <Bytram> <a href="http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_-_July_16,_2014">second Board Meeting</a>, which was mostly expanding on points above and below. Furthermore, we're working on trying to set a regular time for holding meetings. Up-to-now, its been a relatively ad-hoc affair decided a day or two in advance due to having to accommodate multiple schedules. Our board meetings are open
[14:59:04] <Bytram> to the public on the #staff channel on IRC. I'll update the Site News box with the date as soon as it is determined. 
[14:59:07] <Bytram> 
[14:59:28] <Bytram> squeak now or forever hold your grease. :)
[14:59:30] <Bytram> nograb
[15:00:35] <NCommander> Looks good
[15:00:54] <Bytram> let me save it...
[15:01:29] <Bytram> NCommander: it's all yours.
[15:01:34] * mrcoolbp checks it out in context
[15:01:35] <Bytram> and, again, Well Done!!!!!!
[15:02:39] <janrinok> Once it's posted I'll clean up the story list spacing.
[15:03:21] <Bytram> janrinok: nod nod;
[15:03:57] <Bytram> NCommander: suggestion? set the go-live time to 15:15 just in case there's one more 'oh shit' moment.
[15:04:11] <Bytram> or, just wait for it to drop at 16:00
[15:04:40] <NCommander> Bytram, janrinok is messing w/ the spacing
[15:05:24] <Bytram> he's gonna work around you. if you want the story to drop now, in 10 minutes, or just wait until 16:00, it's your call.
[15:05:33] <Bytram> we are here for you, buddy!
[15:05:37] <Bytram> NCommander: ^^
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[15:07:33] * NCommander leaves it at your guys best judgment
[15:08:26] <Bytram> NCommander: nod nod
[15:09:01] <Bytram> NCommander: you wanna take a break before it goes live?
[15:09:22] <Bytram> maybe grab a bite to eat, smoke break, etc.?
[15:09:26] <NCommander> Bytram, not really, once I break, I've got to do day job shit
[15:09:32] <Bytram> lol
[15:09:56] <Bytram> okay, how 'bout I set it for 10 minutes from now.
[15:10:12] <Bytram> hit the can, take a smoke break, and it'll be ready.
[15:10:21] <Bytram> janrinok: ^^
[15:10:32] <Bytram> I'm setting the story to drop in 10 minutes
[15:11:14] <Bytram> make that 15minutes... at 15:25
[15:11:29] <Bytram> done
[15:11:42] <Bytram> afk backin a few min
[15:13:13] <NCommander> slash@lithium:~/slashcode$ bin/runtask spool_to_nntp
[15:13:13] <NCommander> Mon Jul 21 15:07:09 2014 runtask spool_to_nntp.pl begin
[15:13:13] <NCommander> 0Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:13:17] <NCommander> wrong channel
[15:14:49] <janrinok> All Eds: Queue now sorted
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[16:27:57] <NCommander> I need an editor
[16:28:04] <NCommander> janrinok|afk, sorry, I just added something else to the queue :-)
[16:38:43] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: that image is rendering weird
[16:38:59] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: it's overflowing the story slashbox significantly
[16:39:27] <NCommander> Ugh
[16:39:29] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: can you make it 100x100 with a link to the large version
[16:39:34] <NCommander> Renders fine for me but
[16:39:36] <NCommander> *sigh*
[16:39:45] * NCommander was going to break down here and relocate -_-;
[16:41:23] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: you are using a high-resolution desktop
[16:41:52] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, the image is 800x432
[16:41:53] <NCommander> ugh
[16:42:16] <mrcoolbp> NCommander I can resize so you can use a thumb if you like
[16:42:24] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, that, or just edit it to a link
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[16:51:09] <mrcoolbp> maybesomeone else can fix the image crazyness
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