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[04:37:51] <janrinok> Bytram|away: are you actually there?
[04:38:07] <Bytram|away> janrinok: nope!
[04:38:33] <Bytram|away> queue ran dry; just pushed out a few stories; noticed that you came in later and were doing the same! HI!
[04:38:53] <janrinok> lol I've deconflicted the timings on our stories and checked yours for release
[04:38:59] <Bytram|away> I'm wiped out and need to get some sleep. Can you take it from here?
[04:39:11] <janrinok> np leave it with me
[04:39:21] <Bytram|away> merci!
[04:39:21] <janrinok> its the middle of the night here
[04:39:50] <Bytram|away> what are YOU doing up so late?
[04:39:58] <Bytram|away> everything ok?
[04:40:22] <janrinok> same as you - checking the story list and couldn't sleep because the other half is having problems tonight
[04:40:53] <Bytram|away> sorry to "hear" that. Hope the other half feels better soon!
[04:41:36] <Bytram|away> a little distraction can be a very good thing.
[04:41:41] <janrinok> nothing new-it happens from time to time. Thanks for the thoughts. Now go get some sleep youself
[04:42:39] <Bytram|away> ur welcome! btw, the California city... and the Back to the Future... articles seemed, well, "meh".
[04:43:29] <janrinok> thx I haven't read them yet - looks like the weekend quality is starting early.....
[04:43:31] <Bytram|away> Well, might be able to have some fun with the Californica one... just lack the creative juices at the moment.
[04:44:01] <Bytram|away> Acer story seemed promising, though.
[04:44:19] <Bytram|away> anyway, I'll let you come to your own conclusions. Thanks so much for stepping in!
[04:44:21] <janrinok> Have a good sleep - I've got to go now. cul8r
[04:44:27] <Bytram|away> ciao!
[04:44:32] <Bytram|away> Au Revoir!
[04:44:36] <Bytram|away> Bis Spater!
[04:44:38] <janrinok> thats better
[04:44:50] <janrinok> do svidaniya
[04:44:57] <Bytram|away> Das Vedania!
[04:45:05] <Bytram|away> g'day mate!
[04:45:10] <janrinok> cheers
[04:45:29] <Bytram|away> (ah! THAT's how it's spelled. merci!)
[04:45:35] <janrinok> lol
[04:45:44] <Bytram|away> the russian one, that is.
[04:45:56] <Bytram|away> I'd only heard it; don't read cyrrilic.
[04:46:06] <Bytram|away> anyway. Bye!
[04:46:10] <janrinok> it means -until we meet again- . I lived 3 years in Moscow
[04:46:19] <Bytram|away> wow!
[04:46:24] <Bytram|away> Previet!
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[15:20:41] <n1> hey, Bytram
[15:21:39] <Bytram> n1: hiya! I see we've been pushing out articles; ust realized
[15:21:48] <Bytram> we might want to space them out a bit to leave stuff in
[15:21:54] <Bytram> the queue for the weekend?
[15:22:27] <n1> if you could move either the one you just did to later this evening (UTC)
[15:22:32] <n1> or move one of mine
[15:23:25] <n1> hopefully we'll have some more subs over the next few hours, but we're looking 'ok' right now
[15:23:43] <n1> couple more stories for 'today' and then take the weekend as it comes
[15:23:51] <Bytram> let me take a look...
[15:25:07] <Bytram> it looks to me like yours are spaced about 80 minutes apart (give or take) ... okay to stretch them out to 90 minutes?
[15:25:18] <n1> what ever you want
[15:25:41] <n1> i do it on what 'looks right' rather than putting a specific amount of time
[15:25:57] <n1> but obviously 'looking right' is quite subjective
[15:26:09] <Bytram> yup,
[15:26:36] <n1> im actually just about to head out for a meeting
[15:26:49] <n1> if you have time, i would really appreciate if you'd look over the information preservation story
[15:27:00] <Bytram> k.
[15:27:04] <Bytram> on my way
[15:27:23] <n1> there's no 'sources' as its someone elses own writing, but i found it quite interesting, even if there is a slight degree of self-promotion
[15:27:34] <n1> but i think the story is valid and interesting
[15:31:32] <n1> anyway, have to run - hopefully be back in a couple hours.
[15:31:43] <n1> thanks as always, Bytram :)
[15:32:37] <Bytram> n1: interesting story. chewing on it for a bit.
[15:32:45] <Bytram> n1: have a great day!
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[15:58:52] <janrinok> hi guys
[16:00:33] <mattie_p> 0hey janrinok!
[16:02:14] <janrinok> hi mattie_p how's things with you - we haven't chatted for weeks.
[16:03:58] <mattie_p> I know, I've been busy
[16:04:24] <mattie_p> things are ok here, taking my son on a camping trip today, we'll be back Sunday
[16:04:40] <janrinok> That should be a fun weekend - how warm is it now?
[16:06:53] <mattie_p> its been in the 80's (F) this week. pretty warm and decent swimming weather
[16:07:12] <mattie_p> ~30 C
[16:07:29] <janrinok> Well I hope that you both enjoy yourselves. How's your daughter now - almost forgotten her mishap?
[16:10:03] <Bytram> hi guys!
[16:10:20] <janrinok> Bytram: Hi again - did you get some sleep?
[16:10:36] <Bytram> I'm looking at a story that n1 asked me to review... *looks* to be an original piece: http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:43] <Bytram> janrinok: yes, I did, thanks. You?
[16:10:58] <Bytram> wondering i I should tag it as being original w/o being sure.
[16:11:12] <Bytram> s/ i I / if I /
[16:13:45] <janrinok> it looks like its a quote from an article but without a link. If in doubt - save it for the weekend when it is less likely to cause an uproar!
[16:14:24] <Bytram> janrinok: I did a cursory search on a distinct phrase and got no hits on ddg
[16:14:26] <janrinok> Bytram: but there is nothing in there to suggest that it should not be printed
[16:14:59] <janrinok> Is it the only story that jaruzel has submitted?
[16:15:26] <Bytram> janrinok: agreed. it's an interesting story.
[16:15:38] <Bytram> janrinok: don't know off hand... let me look
[16:16:13] <janrinok> He looks like a professional - it could be his own piece or he could be copying it - benefit of the doubt on this occasion.
[16:17:04] <janrinok> His link goes to his professional page.
[16:17:05] <paulej72> there is a unneeded space between v2.0 and ?
[16:17:17] <mattie_p> I'm doing some phrase searching on google right now
[16:17:38] <Bytram> janrinok: agreed. I tend to think it's original.
[16:17:45] <Bytram> paulej72: will fix... hold on.
[16:18:37] <paulej72> where are the two quotes from?
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[16:19:15] <mattie_p> quotes appear to be a fictional future history of this period, invented by the submitter
[16:19:24] <mattie_p> that needs to be made clear
[16:19:29] <janrinok> #I reckon he's is looking to change jobs. He is in the UK - and sees this as a way of getting his CV out there. If it is his own piece then it's worth printing because it is thought provoking - somebody will complain about it but they always do.
[16:20:37] <mattie_p> entire piece seems original based on searching of phrases
[16:21:04] <janrinok> Yep - let it run is my vote
[16:21:54] <Bytram> mattie_p: I put "Consider this hypothetical future narrative:
[16:21:55] <Bytram> " before the "uture history" stuff
[16:22:03] <Bytram> " before the "future history" stuff
[16:22:11] <mattie_p> sounds good, Bytram
[16:22:13] <Bytram> let me save and you all can take a loook.
[16:22:18] <mattie_p> k
[16:22:55] <Bytram> I added a couple questions at the end; story saved.
[16:23:03] <Bytram> 9questions for the community)
[16:23:38] <paulej72> blockquote that narrative
[16:23:56] <Bytram> bw, it reminded me of a great story I'd read years ago about sysadmins rule the earth... brb
[16:24:19] <mattie_p> I'd change the quotes to blockquote as well
[16:25:08] <Bytram> mattie_p: which ones
[16:25:10] <Bytram> ?
[16:25:30] <mattie_p> the fictional future historical account
[16:25:46] <Bytram> ahh, here's the story I remembered: "When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth" by Cory Doctorow: "http://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked_-_When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth.html"
[16:25:53] <Bytram> mattie_p: will do, brb
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[16:26:37] <janrinok> Hi LaminatorX
[16:26:46] <janrinok> full house!
[16:26:58] <mattie_p> don't think I've read that one, Bytram
[16:27:17] <LaminatorX> Heyo.
[16:27:27] <janrinok> LaminatorX: how's things?
[16:27:48] <Bytram> mattie_p: it's a bit nerdy, but a real page-turner! Quick read, too! HIGHLY recommended!!!!
[16:28:54] <mattie_p> I'm thinking of a story where a talking dog and a man team up to steal England's crown jewels. a modem to connect to the old internet features in the story
[16:29:04] <mattie_p> can't remember name tho
[16:30:04] <Woods> Mattie_p: Sounds like someone mixed Hackers together with Inspector Gadget.
[16:30:23] <Bytram> Inspector Hacket?
[16:30:29] <paulej72> Bytram: the blockquot should only be around the future quote, not most of the story.
[16:31:13] <LaminatorX> Buddy Hacket as inspector Gadget would have been very different.
[16:31:15] <mattie_p> More like a standard heist story. it wasn't all about the modem, it was supposed to be a prop until it went live
[16:31:46] <Bytram> paulej72: I added a paragraph at the end which Jaruzel DID NOT write; how else to distiguish? Also, it IS a quote of what Jaruzel wrote.
[16:31:56] <Bytram> LaminatorX: LOL!
[16:32:28] <janrinok> leave it as it is - I don't think anyone will be confused.
[16:33:01] <Bytram> janrinok: ok. LaminatorX? mattie_p? Your thoughts on the nested blockquoting?
[16:33:17] <LaminatorX> Which story is this?
[16:33:29] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:48] <janrinok> not yet released - |The importance of Information Preservation
[16:34:44] <Bytram> hmm, the nested blockquoting does grate on me a bit, though. How could I parenthetically introduce the last paragraph to distinguish it from the submitter's writing?
[16:34:55] <mattie_p> I'd actually take out the comments at the end. We can post that as a comment so as not to detract from his writing.
[16:35:32] <Bytram> mattie_p: works for me. Keep it simple, sweetheart. :)
[16:35:35] <Bytram> brb
[16:36:29] <janrinok> changing machines brb
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[16:36:43] <Bytram> okay. done!
[16:36:55] <Bytram> thanks for the feedback, everyone!!!!!
[16:37:07] <Bytram> editors++
[16:37:07] <deadpeas> karma - editors: 1
[16:37:22] <LaminatorX> I would call it an OpEd rather than "original story," blockquote only the section he has italicised and quoted, and move the commentary at the end into either an [ED NOTE] or a comment.
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[16:37:40] <janrinok> back again
[16:44:48] <janrinok> I hate it when I join and it all goes quiet.....
[16:47:44] <LaminatorX> It's like a nefarious outlaw walking into a wild west saloon.
[16:48:31] <janrinok> exactly!
[16:49:21] <janrinok> mind you - I have to leave in a few minutes and will be back later. Have you any plans for the weekend?
[16:49:50] <LaminatorX> Garage sale, rennaissance fair, baby shower.
[16:50:30] <janrinok> Oh, fairly quiet then.....
[16:51:04] <janrinok> Do you have a costume for the rannaissance fair?
[16:52:02] <LaminatorX> Alas, no. My big flouncy shirt got lost somewhere over the years. We'll just be tourists..
[16:52:46] <janrinok> you're just being coy - I bet you have something spectacular. I'll have to search all the photo sites looking for you now.
[16:53:01] <LaminatorX> I'm the one with the beard.
[16:53:27] <janrinok> lol
[16:53:48] <janrinok> so that rules _some_ of the women out....
[16:54:03] <LaminatorX> Sadly.
[16:54:04] <Bytram> janrinok: LOL!
[16:54:34] <Bytram> well, I needs to be getting on about my day.
[16:54:41] <janrinok> What a shame - having to spend part of your weekend looking at busty women!
[16:54:46] <janrinok> Bytram: have a good one!
[16:54:47] <Bytram> have fun everyone!
[16:54:54] <Bytram> janrinok: will do, you too!
[16:56:51] <janrinok> We've got a blues festival in the local village - with acts from all over Europe. Annual event. If I get some spare time I will give it a look, but I suspect it will only be brief.
[17:00:03] <janrinok> gtg bbl 2 hours'ish. take care!
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[17:20:25] <n1> ahoy
[17:48:01] <mattie_p> ahh, found that story for Bytram and he's gone.
[17:48:03] <mattie_p> hi N1
[17:50:15] <n1> hey mattie_p
[17:50:18] <n1> what story was that?
[17:51:54] <mattie_p> http://www.baenebooks.com
[17:52:06] <mattie_p> we were talking earlier about something and this came to mind
[17:52:51] <mattie_p> oh, you posted it anyway: http://soylentnews.org
[17:53:49] <n1> what is the relation?
[17:54:07] <mattie_p> about the submitters ruminations on a post-internet future.
[17:54:28] <n1> an example of what may be lost?
[17:55:04] <mattie_p> the story features a post-internet future, in which the internet is inhabited by hostile AIs which escape via the use of a modem
[17:55:11] <mattie_p> that was the connection
[17:55:12] <n1> ah right
[17:55:47] <n1> sorry i didnt read it, inbetween too many things right now to start that kind of reading
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[17:57:03] <n1> when AI starts taking us on, it will be for our own good i'm sure.
[17:58:56] <mattie_p> no worries. I was posting for Bytram anyway
[17:59:21] <mattie_p> but you can feel free to read it if you want, I found the copy posted by the publisher so I'll assume its legal
[18:01:06] <n1> yeah, i've bookmarked it - it sounds pretty interesting.
[18:01:13] <n1> thanks for sharing it
[18:02:20] <mattie_p> yw
[18:02:34] <mattie_p> I'll post as a comment in the thread
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