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[16:10:01] <janrinok> Woods are you here?
[16:10:08] <Woods> Always.
[16:10:09] <Woods> Almost.
[16:10:31] <janrinok> I've killed you LibreSSL story - look at 12:36 release on the front page lol
[16:11:10] <Woods> Oh geeze, a dupe.
[16:11:18] <janrinok> within a matter of minutes!
[16:11:22] <Woods> My bad.
[16:11:53] <janrinok> np. We all get so involved in our own stories that we forget to read everyone else's
[16:12:09] <mattie_p> lol
[16:12:15] <mattie_p> good catch guys
[16:12:25] <janrinok> hi mattie_p - how's things at home?
[16:12:59] <mattie_p> Woods, you can save it by marking it "for training only"
[16:13:04] <janrinok> rofl
[16:13:14] <Woods> Janrinok: Looks like you fast-tracked that /. story, but the next is posted in about 5 minutes.
[16:13:18] <mattie_p> staying busy with the little one janrinok, how are you?
[16:13:57] <janrinok> not too bad. Parents in law left today - they had a good break but I'm a little bit tired .
[16:14:12] <janrinok> Woods: yes, but read it
[16:14:59] <Woods> I have.
[16:15:04] <janrinok> Woods: were you referring to the /. story?
[16:15:09] <Woods> Both.
[16:15:29] <mattie_p> made a few corrections to that story folks
[16:15:44] <janrinok> Yes, their problems are over. mattie_p OK, anything serious?
[16:15:59] <Woods> Since you just put up the /. story, it is about 15 minutes away from the next story being posted, wich is about 4 minutes from now. Not sure if it matters, but I do not know if you want two stories so close together.
[16:16:16] <mattie_p> I already changed the time on the next one
[16:16:32] <Woods> Ah, there we go then.
[16:16:36] <Woods> I will move on.
[16:16:43] <mattie_p> no, good catch
[16:16:49] <mattie_p> we gotta help each other out like this
[16:16:50] <janrinok> its not a problem because it's really a non-story. Nothing to it but some will be interested. Any comments will probably be of the mocking variety!
[16:17:21] <Woods> We love mocking here though, right? I mean, it IS on the family crest.
[16:17:25] <mattie_p> janrinok: nothing serious, just lingering effects from the accident anyway
[16:17:59] <janrinok> Is she joking and complaining in equal amounts - in which case she is cured!
[16:19:22] <janrinok> Woods: have you got a soylentnews email account?
[16:19:33] <Woods> Aye. just Woods
[16:20:32] <janrinok> When I added Bob the Cowboy to the LibreSSL story I also sent him an email - I'll copy it to you. We try to provide feedback where we can.
[16:21:12] <Woods> Should we do that for all merged stories?
[16:22:26] <janrinok> No, usually you merge before release and the system credits both submitters with karma. Because this story had already been released, he doesn't get any karma for it. The email is just to make them feel appreciated.
[16:22:54] <janrinok> email on it's way
[16:23:38] <janrinok> mattie_p: how has tonya servo coped - taken it all in her stride I expect.
[16:24:20] <mattie_p> mostly, she's pretty wore out by now though, we're just all trying to recover one day at a time
[16:24:37] <janrinok> I can well imagine. My best wishes to you all.
[16:28:24] <janrinok> Woods: your name doesn't appear on http://soylentnews.org . You might want to talk to one of the sys guys to find out what you have to do to get your posting stats.
[16:29:19] <Woods> I kinda like the anonymity. Plus, if I go on the site then I have to make up a blurb about myself. Also, who are the sys guys?
[16:30:43] <janrinok> If you go to #staff and ask to speak to xlefay or, indeed, any 'sys guy' someone will pop up to help.... eventually
[16:32:06] <xlefay> Woods, ?:)
[16:32:07] <Woods> Is this one of those things I have to bribe Xlefay to do? I am out of bribe money for this pay period. (Used it all to become an editor)
[16:32:09] <janrinok> You can always tell blatent lies on you background e.g. how you ran away to the circus at age 7 and became a juggling unicyclist who had a pet llama. Unless, of course, you _did_ run away to join the circus....
[16:32:28] <Woods> Janrinok: That is terrifyingly close to my usual fake backstory.
[16:32:50] <janrinok> No, They have to add your name to some field in the database, but you can ask any sys guy - they will all mock you equally!
[16:33:00] <Woods> Excellent.
[16:33:01] <xlefay> I just did
[16:33:16] <janrinok> xlefay: hi, how's things with you today?
[16:33:22] <xlefay> It requires me to execute a command.. I'll try that first on dev.. before I break things on production
[16:33:45] <janrinok> You have lost your spirit of adventure today?
[16:33:58] <xlefay> I never experiment with prod machines :)
[16:34:13] <janrinok> Things are obviously changing in sys...
[16:34:23] <janrinok> Or is that just NC?
[16:34:27] <xlefay> No, that's just NCommander
[16:34:53] <xlefay> things are, ok, how about you?
[16:35:25] <janrinok> I'm tired but peace and quite have settled once more upon our humble abode.
[16:35:27] <xlefay> Woods, can you make an article @ http://dev.soylentnews.org ?:)
[16:35:57] <Woods> With my origin story?
[16:36:00] <xlefay> I see :)
[16:36:16] <xlefay> Woods, nah, just some random rumble, don't particularly care what you post on dev, as long as you post something ;)
[16:36:18] <janrinok> Woods: just submit you circus story...
[16:38:08] <xlefay> just post anything really..
[16:38:12] <xlefay> an existing story, w/e
[16:38:57] <xlefay> note the 'on dev' tho eh
[16:40:31] <Woods> Whoops, I forgot to format it, dang it.
[16:40:47] <xlefay> ok it works
[16:40:50] <xlefay> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[16:40:50] <janrinok> doesn't matter
[16:41:05] <Woods> Yeah, but I like to do nice things.
[16:41:22] <janrinok> now we can watch xlefay break the live server.......
[16:41:56] <xlefay> http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:21] <xlefay> one server left to go
[16:42:32] <Woods> Nothing is broken yet. :(
[16:42:33] <janrinok> here's the big one -CRASH
[16:42:43] <xlefay> Seems to have worked. ;)
[16:42:53] <janrinok> just lucky this time I guess
[16:42:54] <xlefay> If there is any breakage, please feel free to blame someone else
[16:43:12] <janrinok> note my sig - 'it's always my fault'
[16:43:14] <xlefay> janrinok, this may be the very first command I've ran on production that affected the site directly.
[16:43:49] <janrinok> Whatever happens, you have to get it back up faster than /. did earlier.
[16:44:21] <xlefay> In any case, Woods' name is in there
[16:44:28] <xlefay> I'm considering removing GungnirSniper's name there
[16:44:47] <janrinok> good idea - he's gone to pipedot so I've heard.
[16:44:51] <xlefay> NCommander did leave his access level intact.. how long has he been gone now?
[16:45:26] <janrinok> well he only ever released 1 story and that was about a month ago?
[16:45:35] <xlefay> Last access 2014-03-31
[16:45:45] <Woods> Xlefay: Should I e-mail you my blurb? How much space do I have? And on a scale from 1-10 (10 being the highest), how ridiculous can it be?
[16:45:51] <xlefay> "blurb"?
[16:45:58] <janrinok> You can always wait and check with LamX if you wish
[16:46:09] <Woods> The little bit below the name on the authors page.
[16:46:35] <xlefay> janrinok, I just removed his access level. He didn't reply on the mailing list either re: "All staff, please read." re: figuring out who's active and who wasn't
[16:47:02] <janrinok> Woods - its taken from your home page ~woods - if you send an email you will be mocked again.
[16:47:11] <xlefay> janrinok, ..
[16:47:13] <Woods> Ohhh
[16:47:27] <xlefay> I was just about to tell him to e-mail it to NCommander :~/
[16:47:34] <janrinok> I don't want xlefay getting too excited in 1 day
[16:47:39] <Woods> Well good thing I store my mockings to be converted into energy for later. Thermodynamics.
[16:47:39] <janrinok> rofl
[16:47:43] <xlefay> Ultimate mocking would have proceeded rapidly after that
[16:48:54] <janrinok> xlefay: I'm sorry - that would have been worth seeing - especially if you got him to copy it to all staff...
[16:49:11] <Woods> :(
[16:49:26] <xlefay> janrinok, indeed.
[16:49:34] <janrinok> W - we take no prisoners here.
[16:49:47] <Woods> Apparently.
[16:49:52] <xlefay> Well.. there is that one guy in the dungeon downstairs
[16:49:56] <Woods> (Except in #prisoners)
[16:50:04] <janrinok> yes, but he deserves it...
[16:50:30] <xlefay> He sure did.
[16:50:46] <janrinok> W - I did warn you yesterday to trust no-one - and that includes me I suppose.
[16:51:04] <Woods> No no no, you said nothing about trust. You only said something about hazing.
[16:51:12] <janrinok> lol
[16:51:41] <xlefay> Woods, actually, to be entirely truthful with you, if there's one person here you shouldn't be trusting, it's probably janrinok. He will do whatever it takes to remain #1 on the authors list. You have been warned.
[16:52:10] <xlefay> and with "whatever it takes" I do mean, whatever it takes.
[16:52:34] <Woods> Noted.
[16:52:45] * xlefay puts his sun glasses back on and walks off
[16:53:00] * Woods explodes
[16:53:09] * xlefay turns his head slightly around and looks at janrinok suspiciously.
[16:53:13] <janrinok> I didn't kill them all! They left!
[16:53:28] <xlefay> !grab janrinok
[16:53:28] <deadbeef> Added quote 5
[16:54:05] <xlefay> janrinok, haha that was awesome ;)
[16:54:25] <janrinok> well done - good timing on your part too
[16:54:33] <Woods> Hehe
[16:54:38] <xlefay> haha :P
[16:54:49] <xlefay> wait what..
[16:55:00] <xlefay> you said, you didn't kill them ALL, so you did kill some?
[16:55:10] <janrinok> just a bit
[16:55:10] <Woods> But not all!
[16:55:25] <xlefay> Noted.
[16:56:02] <janrinok> This is why I come here each day.....
[16:56:18] <xlefay> Scouting for possible victims and such?
[16:56:54] <xlefay> Hey! You should get a job with Slashdot!
[16:57:06] <xlefay> We'd put them out of business.. wait, that's too evil, even for me
[16:57:21] <janrinok> I enjoy a good laugh - and if a potential victim ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H editor should come along then that's a bonus.
[16:57:35] <xlefay> janrinok++ haha
[16:57:35] <deadbeef> karma - janrinok: 2
[16:57:47] <xlefay> !grab janrinok
[16:57:47] <deadbeef> Added quote 6
[16:57:53] <Woods> Janrinok, you really should ^W, it is way faster.
[16:57:54] <xlefay> This channel.. can use a few more!
[16:58:07] <janrinok> I type it for dramatic effect
[16:58:20] <janrinok> honest
[16:58:34] * janrinok writes 'Woods' in his little book
[16:58:45] * xlefay notes he's monitoring the main servers actively after running weird strange commands on there
[16:58:46] <xlefay> LOL
[16:59:07] <xlefay> janrinok, perhaps, you should draw a little figure to go with that
[16:59:14] * xlefay ducks
[16:59:19] <Woods> Fine ^W Whatever ^W Alright ^W Sounds good ^W^W YOU ARE THE COOLEST EVER.
[16:59:59] <Woods> Was that too much?
[17:00:03] <janrinok> On a serious note, Woods, over the last few days I've had a couple of submissions in which all the links were good apart from one - that is the contact address. It's worth checking that it points somewhere reasonable before releasing a story.
[17:00:43] <Woods> Yeah, until mentioned linking to their SN account, I had not really looked at that.
[17:01:19] <janrinok> Two links were harmless but not contact addresses and one was to a adult site. I removed them and replaced them with the normal.
[17:01:44] <Woods> Awesome.
[17:01:45] <janrinok> ...not a bad site though
[17:02:20] <Woods> Were redheads involved?
[17:02:24] <xlefay> Why oh why wouldn't you share that love?
[17:02:58] <xlefay> Obviously, it could only improve our rankings!
[17:03:00] <janrinok> I didn't make a note of the link - I just 'vetted' it for a few hours to check the content.
[17:03:19] <xlefay> Naturally
[17:03:33] <janrinok> It is my solemn duty as an editor.
[17:03:33] <Woods> More like a few minutes. Oh snap.
[17:03:55] * janrinok marks a 'x' next to Wood's name in the book
[17:04:09] <Woods> Awww, you think I am a 10!
[17:04:37] <xlefay> LOL
[17:04:41] <janrinok> I'm old - but not _that_ old!
[17:07:15] <xlefay> Thanks for the laughs guys, I gotta continue with other SN work, stay awesome ;-)
[17:07:36] <janrinok> I get the impression that there are less 'tech' stories being submitted that there used to be.
[17:07:45] <janrinok> cu xlefay
[17:09:36] <Woods> What can we even do about that?
[17:10:31] <janrinok> Nothing really. We could put out our own story asking for more tech submissions - I'll raise it with LamX next time our paths cross
[17:13:45] <Woods> I could post a story how this WSUS server is giving me grief, but I doubt that would be very interesting to people.
[17:14:39] <janrinok> Well, it has to be better that some of the rubbish in the sub list at the moment.
[17:15:21] <Woods> Oy, I know right?
[17:15:47] <janrinok> I'm working on an interesting one at the moment - Facial Recognition.
[17:17:32] <Woods> Just as long as you avoid Minority Report. News channels, amirite?
[17:18:17] <janrinok> Not a site that I know
[17:18:33] <Woods> The movie Minority Report
[17:18:51] <janrinok> My age - I haven't seen the film
[17:19:59] <Woods> Ahhh. Well, just as good then. Any time there is a specific branch of new technology (air gestures, facial recognition, crime statistics) then the news channels compare it by saying "Like something out of Minority Report..."
[17:20:10] <Woods> I swear I have heard that phrase more times than my own name.
[17:20:24] <janrinok> ah Ok.
[17:21:07] <Woods> Also, your methods of speech do not betray your age. I have you pegged for early 30s.
[17:21:17] <janrinok> double it
[17:21:38] <Woods> Close enough.
[17:21:50] <janrinok> I took early retirement to look after my disabled wife.
[17:22:09] <janrinok> rofl - close enough! yeah, I suppose so
[17:22:20] <Woods> lol. Good enough for the internet
[17:22:30] <Woods> What did you used to do?
[17:24:42] <janrinok> well the bit I do talk about (like you I value my privacy) is I spent time writing software for military avionic systems for a while. I've spent time in Germany, the US (Offut AFB), Canada, all over Europe, lived in Russia for 3 years, and in several former USSR republics.
[17:25:22] <janrinok> I might age I should know lots of things - but I've managed to forget most of it!
[17:25:38] <janrinok> s/I might/At my/
[17:25:59] <Woods> Sounds pretty badass, dude.
[17:26:08] <janrinok> Oh, I flew nuclear bombers for a while too
[17:26:28] <Woods> Okay, I want to take my previous sentence, and move it to this spot.
[17:26:52] <Woods> I have a friend who does avionic software stuff, all in Oklahoma though.
[17:26:56] <janrinok> I was an electronic warfare specialist. And that's the bit I can talk about!
[17:28:14] <janrinok> I'm enjoying the (much) quieter lifestyle now, but wish my wife was well enough for us to enjoy it together.
[17:28:56] <Woods> I hear that.
[17:29:00] <janrinok> She is the reason I have to keep going afk - and coming back sometime later.
[17:29:23] <Woods> I do not mind the pauses, gives me time to do my real job.
[17:29:30] <janrinok> At which point, I'm going to finish the story that I'm working on and go afk!
[17:29:47] <Woods> Sounds like a plan.
[17:31:00] <janrinok> If you get the time, could you please 2nd-editor-check my 2 stories. laters.
[17:31:29] <Woods> Copy that. bye
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[18:39:46] <Woods> That story took a lot more editing than I thought it would...
[18:39:53] * Woods he said, to nobody in particular.
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[20:15:58] <janrinok> ...and I'm back
[20:19:21] <Woods> Welcome back.
[20:19:42] <Woods> Nothing happened while you were gone.
[20:21:55] <janrinok> Woods hi - I'm not surprised but thx for the update.
[20:22:23] <janrinok> We were talking about my past - anything about your past you want to share?
[20:22:47] <janrinok> Don't worry about the unicycle or llama
[20:23:22] <janrinok> And I'm not offended if the answer is 'No'
[20:23:44] <Woods> lol. Well... I cannot really think of anything.
[20:24:01] <janrinok> gosh, that is an exciting life so far.....
[20:24:02] <Woods> My memory kinda sucks, and I have not had a particularly eventful life
[20:24:17] <janrinok> which tz are you in?
[20:24:21] <Woods> CST
[20:24:46] <Woods> Currently, I live in Missouri, near LamX
[20:25:32] <janrinok> Ah, an insider and buddy of LamX - I'm doomed....
[20:25:51] <Woods> Muahaha
[20:26:06] * janrinok puts second 'x' into book
[20:26:22] <Woods> I sure hope this is not a "XXX" situation...
[20:26:40] <janrinok> I certainly hope not!
[20:27:10] <janrinok> have you got a technical background or simply an interest?
[20:27:54] <Woods> Both. I have worked with computers since my Dad brought one home that was running DOS.
[20:28:21] <Woods> Always found them easy to work with, figured if I got a job in the field it would be easy as well... It is.
[20:28:55] <janrinok> n1 runs a burglar alarm and cctv company.
[20:29:09] <Woods> I never got around to asking him what it was he does.
[20:29:27] <Woods> Seems like a lucrative business
[20:29:27] <janrinok> I'm a Brit but I live in NW France
[20:29:38] <janrinok> LamX you know
[20:30:03] <Woods> Not really, actually.
[20:30:18] <janrinok> n1 says it has its ups and downs - but no job is all roses at the moment. Seems I got out at just the right time
[20:30:30] <Woods> mmhmm
[20:31:34] <janrinok> GungnirSniper and MrGirl have both disappeared.
[20:32:01] <Woods> Just so we are clear, I do not actually know LamX. He trained me via Google Hangout on Saturday, so all I know is what he looks like
[20:32:13] <Woods> (And that his little daughter is adorable, she was making bracelets in the background)
[20:32:26] <janrinok> I don't know much about Dopefish other than I think he has just been promoted at work and he has less time available for the time being.
[20:32:55] <Woods> I have never seen Dopefish online anywhere.
[20:33:01] <Woods> I guess he was before me.
[20:33:06] <janrinok> LamX is a good sort. He trained many of us. He is the one to turn to when you need some sound advice on editing.
[20:33:51] <Woods> He did a good job, if I do say so myself.
[20:33:56] <janrinok> Dopefish and LamX were the first 2 eds, but DF has said that he has much less time available now, although he hopes to be back once he has settled in his new role.
[20:34:41] <Woods> Ah. I fear the same thing will happen to me some day as well.
[20:35:22] <janrinok> mattie_p was also a very early editor but quickly graduated into more managerial roles where he does a brilliant job. He still comes back to edit from time to time, but that is not his main role.
[20:36:25] <janrinok> Well, I would be pleased if you were promoted even if it did cost us an editor. There are too few opportunities nowadays.
[20:36:54] <Woods> Agreed :)
[20:37:21] <janrinok> The editing job can easily get you down. It's very repetitive and sometimes you can get a whole mess of criticism from the threads.
[20:37:53] <Woods> Hahaha... You just described most of what I do, at work, and at home.
[20:38:30] <janrinok> I had a critical comment today - here is my response: http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:32] <Woods> Repetitive tasks are what I am best at. And I have been on the "Never noticed until something breaks" side for most of my work/home life.
[20:41:52] <Woods> Nice. Well put.
[20:42:40] <janrinok> its not the best piece of prose ever written, but I try to explain while not putting the guy down to cruelly. I've even had complainers email me to apologise!
[20:42:50] <janrinok> too*
[20:44:20] <janrinok> I also try to send emails explaining why stories have been rejected. I try to encourage them to submit again. We need all the submissions we can get.
[20:44:23] <Woods> Looks like that post got a lot of big comments though.
[20:44:43] <janrinok> Yes, you can never please everyone!
[20:44:48] <Woods> heh
[20:46:26] <janrinok> But after a day where you receive 5 or 6 like this, there is a tendency to just say 'Fuck it' and go for a walk. It happens to us all - and it will happen to you. I'd encourage you also to come to this channel and get things off your chest. I can assure you, we _do_ understand.
[20:47:01] <Woods> I will undoubtedly take you up on that offer.
[20:47:10] <janrinok> We will still mock you a little bit though....
[20:48:22] <janrinok> I've considered just leaving on 1 occassion, but after coming here, talking about it, having a beer and a day off - well, I'm still here!
[20:48:38] <janrinok> damn this kbd can't spell!
[20:49:39] <xlefay> Wait, "a little bit"? Are you starting to give in janrinok?!
[20:49:41] <Woods> Hehe, no worries. The typing of my ilk are much more akin to errors than you. I am able to follow your thoughts regardless.
[20:49:53] <Woods> Nobody invited you, Xlefay!
[20:50:04] <janrinok> xlefay: draw them in first, then pounce - how many times do I have to tell you?
[20:50:07] <xlefay> Aww and I was just about to say something actually nice.
[20:50:24] <xlefay> janrinok, oh shit, I totally forgot again!
[20:50:43] <Woods> Ahah! So THAT is what happened to Dopefish!
[20:50:49] <janrinok> How's things with you xlefay ?
[20:50:59] <xlefay> Oh you know, lot's of stuff to do :'(
[20:51:01] <xlefay> you?
[20:51:37] <janrinok> well we've got stories but some of them are pretty rubbish and there are too few techie stories I believe.
[20:52:15] <xlefay> Better something that nothing I suppose
[20:52:35] <xlefay> So, I was going to say something nice, let me see if I can remember
[20:52:36] <janrinok> True, but we get more complaints.
[20:52:38] <Woods> Janrinok: I am looking up some info for a tech story as we speak.
[20:52:56] <janrinok> go for it!
[20:53:06] <xlefay> ah yes, about those complaints, I offer you, /dev/null, where you can forward all of those to.
[20:53:21] <Woods> Hehehe
[20:53:22] <janrinok> I think I've nearly filled it!
[20:54:06] <janrinok> can you pour all the unwanted bits and bytes into the back of a computer somewhere?
[20:54:28] <xlefay> In all seriousness, you guys have been doing an amazing job and sure there are complaints here and there, just don't let it get you down. :)
[20:54:30] <Woods> I just dump mine in the little gaps of the keyboard.
[20:54:45] <xlefay> janrinok, I was thinking more along the lines, of "Return to Sender" ;-)
[20:54:47] <janrinok> That where I store my pizza!
[20:55:20] <janrinok> Oh its not getting me down - today is a pretty good day, all in all.
[20:55:38] <xlefay> I'd love to see anyone who complaints do the stuff you do and see how well they do, from what I've seen, it takes quite a bit to make good stories work.
[20:56:30] <janrinok> Yes, most of them are all talk. They have never made a submission and the 'other site is better' sort of thing. Well go back to the other site or, better still, do both!
[20:56:31] <Woods> Xlefay: No no no, the good stories are easy... It is the bad stories that we HAVE to push out that take all the work.
[20:57:28] <janrinok> Woods: now that is true!
[20:57:40] <xlefay> It'd be nice, if we could include those people into the process some how, perhaps have a way for them to proof read things (referring to grammEr nazis), once you have that, they can't complain because they've been involved in the process - and those that haven't, well, obviously they can "be a part" of said process, thoughts?
[20:57:49] <xlefay> Woods, haha, I guess so ;-)
[20:58:20] <janrinok> That's worth thinking about although I'm not sure how to make it work. I'll give it some thought.
[20:58:46] <Woods> Hm, interesting. Maybe we could figure out a way for them to temporarily have editor privelages, like moderator points?
[20:59:14] <xlefay> It's a thought exercise, let's see what we can come up with.
[20:59:23] <janrinok> Oh, I'm not sure we want to let them loose on the system. It is easy to bring it to its knees.
[20:59:30] <Woods> Yeah, lol
[20:59:46] <xlefay> Woods, that could be possible, but I'd think more like a firehose sort of thing.
[21:00:05] <Woods> I only know the term, and that it was used on /., but I do not know what it is.
[21:00:53] <xlefay> It's like a massive submission queue, where people can vote up/down stories. Essentially, I'm thinking of having a few people that have been granted access to such a thing, the ability of commenting on submissions, commenting on revisions, etc..
[21:01:04] <xlefay> Essentially, helping editors out
[21:01:18] <xlefay> (the firehose @ /. itself, we open.. I'm thinking of "something like a firehose")
[21:01:27] <Woods> Oohh, I like that.
[21:01:37] <xlefay> was open*
[21:01:47] <xlefay> is open* ugh, English ;-)
[21:02:04] <janrinok> W don't worry, when I arrived here during the slashcott, I knew nothing about IRC, HTML, CSS, slashcode or how to run a website. I was _invaluable_!
[21:02:24] <xlefay> Ok, I should, get back to work.
[21:02:26] <janrinok> ....and xlefay will tell you that I still don't know anything about IRC, HTML ......
[21:02:40] <xlefay> janrinok, be careful, you never know where 'they' are.
[21:02:46] <janrinok> laters xlefay laters!
[21:03:14] <Woods> Maybe only people that have over 20 karma?
[21:03:19] <xlefay> (or who 'they' are)
[21:03:24] <janrinok> lol
[21:03:31] * xlefay looks suspiciously at Woods
[21:03:34] <janrinok> damn - I thought he had gonew
[21:03:45] <Woods> Nope, still here... Always... Here
[21:03:46] * janrinok joins xlefay
[21:03:56] * Woods puts on mirrored glasses
[21:04:13] <xlefay> Oh my, look at these two handsome fellahs, janrinok
[21:04:17] <xlefay> Oh wait! That's us!
[21:04:23] <Woods> Bah, defeated again!
[21:04:33] <janrinok> you also need glasses xlefay ....
[21:04:49] <xlefay> Ok, I know, but I didn't want to make you feel bad buddy. Sorry.
[21:04:53] <janrinok> lol
[21:04:58] <janrinok> get back to work!
[21:05:04] <xlefay> haha ;-)
[21:05:06] <Woods> Okay, fine.
[21:05:09] <Woods> lol
[21:05:19] <Woods> You guys keep distracting me from my submission.
[21:05:27] <xlefay> Take care guys, be good!
[21:05:30] <Woods> Laters
[21:05:58] <janrinok> cu xlefay
[21:06:33] <xlefay> All be around though, if you need me (e.g. Woods broke the site), just give me a shout
[21:06:34] <janrinok> Woods: so they call you when the system goes down and you have to explain for the 100th time why they should invest more in the hw?
[21:06:59] <janrinok> xlefay: OK, and you didn't break it either earlier - I',
[21:07:05] <janrinok> I'm impressed
[21:07:22] <xlefay> That's how I roll. I'm super careful with things. (honestly) =)
[21:07:28] <Woods> sure sure sure
[21:07:37] <Woods> Xlefay is the worst at leaving.
[21:07:43] * xlefay notes he did first inspect the script!
[21:07:49] <janrinok> rofl
[21:07:57] <xlefay> Woods, NOW, you're really a member of the staff...
[21:08:04] <janrinok> no grabs - better luck next visit
[21:08:53] <xlefay> ooh, janrinok before I do leave, I almost forgot (sorry)
[21:09:04] <janrinok> go ahead
[21:09:06] <Woods> Janrinok: Yes, more or less. Except I am also the one that has to cobble together some piece of trash from downstairs to make it work.
[21:09:07] <xlefay> check invite
[21:09:22] <janrinok> where?
[21:09:33] <xlefay> staff-only channel I /invite'd you
[21:09:48] <janrinok> ok thx
[21:10:30] <janrinok> is that the original staff only, the subsequent staff only, or is there a super-duper secret staff only?
[21:11:06] <xlefay> #staff used to be private - but we opened that up, because people kept trying to join. The other channel, we've had for a while, you didn't know?
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[21:55:22] <Woods> So weird how the editor converts <p> </p> tags to <br><br> tags when submitting.
[22:06:23] <Woods> It makes me look like a sloppy baby.
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