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[00:52:36] <Cactus> mattie_p, Have you read the article on the future fuel cells?
[00:53:52] <mattie_p> nope, is it coming up soon?
[00:54:32] <mattie_p> oh, still in the sub folder
[00:54:39] <mattie_p> reading now
[01:09:24] <paulej72> Ncommander are you still here?
[01:09:47] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm everywhere
[01:09:59] <paulej72> I thought i was in dev meet me there
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[03:37:16] <LaminatorX> Looks like we've got stories unsought to make it through the night. Then... We'll see. I'll be on station in the morning.
[03:38:06] <Cactus> I'm going to do the SAT one now. Space everything out to 2 hours.
[03:38:42] <Cactus> I'll start looking for subs tomorrow morning, or tonight if I make it that far.
[03:42:11] <LaminatorX> I'll shortly be gone again for a few hours. I'll check on the queue before bed when I get home though.
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[03:50:42] <mattie_p> Discussion of the Dear John Letter is here
[03:50:53] <mattie_p> draft letter itself is here: https://docs.google.com
[03:50:59] <mattie_p> yes, google docs.
[03:51:02] <mattie_p> bite me if you hate
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[04:53:42] <Cactus> Who wanted to hold the Cosmos Reboot story for Saturday?
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[05:38:48] <mattie_p> dunno. If I make comments like that I usually put initials mp in there
[05:39:03] <mattie_p> I think it might premier that day?
[05:39:12] <Cactus> Well, I went ahead and post it. Running low
[05:39:28] <Cactus> Yeah, it starts Sunday
[05:40:01] <mrcoolbp> hey guys!
[05:40:13] <mrcoolbp> is stderr around?
[05:40:19] <stderr> No.
[05:40:38] <mrcoolbp> lol
[05:40:50] <stderr> Want me to find him?
[05:40:55] <mrcoolbp> please!
[05:41:00] <stderr> Ok, hang on...
[05:41:02] <mrcoolbp> stderr, I have every intent of bringing your concerns to the editors
[05:41:07] <mrcoolbp> I have notes........
[05:41:12] <mrcoolbp> please advise
[05:41:38] <stderr> (Would be funny if I didn't come back for an hour, right?)
[05:42:05] * mrcoolbp waits.....
[05:42:06] <stderr> Ok, let's hear it...
[05:42:22] <mrcoolbp> you want to hear my notes from our convo?
[05:42:42] <stderr> Or whatever you wanted to ask me?
[05:43:50] <mrcoolbp> my question is would you like to bring these to them?
[05:44:00] <mrcoolbp> I have a ton of notes from our conversation
[05:44:24] <stderr> I think I've already said most of it in here...
[05:44:42] <mrcoolbp> I just wanted to make sure they are brought up, I promised you they would be
[05:45:02] <mrcoolbp> even tho I was a little drunk, it was late, i was fried, I am still on top of it......
[05:45:12] <stderr> :-)
[05:45:55] <mrcoolbp> = )
[05:45:59] <mrcoolbp> I'll let you handle it
[05:46:10] <mrcoolbp> I need to clear some notes of my desk anyway....sir.
[05:46:23] <stderr> If you want to do it now, please go ahead. I should be making dinner...
[05:49:07] <mrcoolbp> okay real quick?
[05:50:57] <mrcoolbp> Story pacing, Apple SSL Bug situation, Presence in IRC, Editing posted story (my suggesting is adding "Edit: XXXXX Reason"), Kill "dd" stories from launch in que (i.e. systemd submission), Polls (remove from que?) etc.
[05:52:55] <stderr> I think the Apple stories are gone now, so whatever...
[05:53:05] <stderr> What's "Editing posted story"?
[05:53:09] <stderr> And "dd"?
[05:53:48] <mrcoolbp> honestly don't remember "dd"
[05:53:58] <mrcoolbp> but editing posted story refers to:
[05:54:27] <mrcoolbp> Adding edits after a story is posted (causes confusion if corections are made and comments have been posted about them)
[05:54:41] <mrcoolbp> this is remedied by adding "Edited: for X reason"
[05:57:59] <stderr> Was that from me?
[05:58:06] <stderr> I don't think so...
[05:58:12] <stderr> But yeah... :-)
[05:58:40] <mattie_p> hey guys, what's up?
[05:59:08] <mrcoolbp> stderr, honestly still don't know
[05:59:28] <stderr> mattie_p: That way ^
[05:59:29] <mrcoolbp> mattie_p: we are trying to make sure concerns that were had before re: editorial get presented eventually
[06:00:44] <mattie_p> editor meeting on Saturday
[06:01:02] <mattie_p> I'd invite you but its via a google product, I know how you guys hate that
[06:01:11] <mattie_p> but us creative types don't mind
[06:01:59] <mattie_p> Anyway, past few days we've been tweaking story posting
[06:02:18] <mattie_p> We're looking at bringing more editors on board, and our new editor in chief is LaminatorX
[06:02:29] <stderr> It would be VERY nice, if all meeting could talk place on IRC.
[06:02:38] <mattie_p> LaminatorX is present in IRC daily
[06:03:29] <mattie_p> not sure what DD is, but the ones that were there for a while were killed today
[06:03:41] <mattie_p> polls we'll either run or not
[06:04:04] <mattie_p> not sure what else to add, ping LaminatorX with a list and we'll hit it on Saturday if not earlier
[06:04:11] <mrcoolbp> cool mattie_p, not my concerns, I was speaking on others' behalf (xlefay may have been involved, it was a late night)
[06:04:22] <mrcoolbp> worry not sir.
[06:04:23] <stderr> mattie_p: One of my suggestions was to move poll suggestions out of the news queue and keep them somewhere else until a new poll is needed.
[06:04:48] <stderr> Somewhere else can be a wiki page or a journal or whatever. That doesn't matter.
[06:05:01] <stderr> Just try to keep them out of the "firehose".
[06:06:22] <mattie_p> hrm
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[06:06:42] <mattie_p> mrcoolbp are those on the task list anywhere?
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[06:06:58] <mrcoolbp> I was trying to offload them
[06:07:01] <mrcoolbp> = )
[06:07:31] <mrcoolbp> they were mostly Stderr's concerns with some others littered in apparently
[06:07:59] <mrcoolbp> it was not a good night for me, I tried to help you cross of task number one a little too much
[06:08:05] <stderr> mrcoolbp: That's a lowercase "s", thank you...
[06:08:16] <mrcoolbp> words flew, I think I called *s*tderr lazy
[06:08:32] <mrcoolbp> anyway, wanted to make sure things were still brought up
[06:08:43] <stderr> Not just me... Everyone who were considering leaving or already did.
[06:08:44] <mrcoolbp> I can try to enumerate them in detail and email to you?
[06:08:49] <mrcoolbp> ah I see
[06:10:16] <mattie_p> send it on the staff email until we get the final task list posted
[06:10:24] <mattie_p> but then again, you should be working on that, right>?
[06:11:40] <mrcoolbp> mattie_p just saw your email
[06:11:50] <mrcoolbp> thanks for getting that over here
[06:12:15] <mrcoolbp> I will take a look and check with NCommander as he asked me to keep him advised
[06:12:24] <mrcoolbp> I will send the concerns on the staff email tomorrow
[06:12:35] <mattie_p> ok
[06:12:44] <mrcoolbp> anything else I can do for you bother?
[06:12:51] <mrcoolbp> *brother*
[06:12:53] <mrcoolbp> oops
[06:12:56] <Cactus> freudian slip
[06:13:54] <mrcoolbp> mattie_p: rofl at paulej's list!
[06:14:09] <mrcoolbp> Cactus: oh you devil you
[06:14:31] <Cactus> =D
[06:14:32] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, is most/all of the staff registered?
[06:14:40] <mrcoolbp> yes sir
[06:14:45] <mrcoolbp> let me check
[06:14:50] <mattie_p> what, Item #2?
[06:14:51] <mrcoolbp> we were only missing a few earlier
[06:14:52] <NCommander> Alright
[06:14:55] <NCommander> Need to get that email written
[06:14:56] <NCommander> yay
[06:14:57] <mattie_p> yeah, thats the best
[06:15:16] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: robin??
[06:15:23] <mrcoolbp> still need him
[06:15:31] * NCommander goes to get lunch
[06:15:32] <NCommander> BBL
[06:16:01] <mrcoolbp> mattie_p need a few of your editors on the list
[06:16:13] <mrcoolbp> dopefish and gwwpo
[06:16:19] <mattie_p> they all said they signed up today?
[06:16:22] <mattie_p> except dopefish
[06:16:27] <mrcoolbp> let me double check....
[06:16:29] <mattie_p> I'll shoot an email
[06:17:05] <mrcoolbp> mattie_p wait
[06:17:11] <mattie_p> k
[06:17:11] <mrcoolbp> I see gwwpo
[06:17:23] <mattie_p> matt Nawrocki or someone is Dopefish
[06:17:55] <mrcoolbp> I don't see matt
[06:18:28] <mattie_p> I'll email him
[06:18:32] <mrcoolbp> looks like we are just waiting on him
[06:18:40] <mrcoolbp> and (robin)
[06:21:04] <mattie_p> what the link to register again?
[06:22:50] <mrcoolbp> I can give you 2 sec
[06:23:09] <mrcoolbp> http://lists.soylentnews.org
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[07:01:00] <stderr> I think the "worthless" submission can be deleted...
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[15:26:48] <xlefay> LaminatorX: /cs topic #editorial ; or /cs op #editorial
[15:26:54] <xlefay> if /cs doesn't work, replace it with /msg chanserv
[15:27:38] <xlefay> LaminatorX: do you want baconserv here?
[15:27:51] <LaminatorX> What does it do besides bacon?
[15:28:09] <xlefay> it allows you to just write: .topic something, .topicappend, .op, .deop, etc.. it's for convenience.
[15:28:39] <xlefay> he's like an in-channel chanserv really.
[15:29:03] <LaminatorX> OK. does it have a .help or .commands?
[15:29:17] <xlefay> Yes.
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[15:29:33] <LaminatorX> Sounds good then, thanks.
[15:29:45] <xlefay> .flags Dopefish -F*
[15:29:45] -ChanServ:#editorial- xlefay set flags -AFRVfiorstv on Dopefish.
[15:29:50] <xlefay> .flags LaminatorX +F*
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[15:29:56] <xlefay> .flags LaminatorX -O
[15:29:56] -ChanServ:#editorial- xlefay set flags -O on LaminatorX.
[15:30:00] <xlefay> ok, I'm done spamming :)
[15:30:08] <xlefay> Just changed channel ownership to you. try: .help
[15:30:24] LaminatorX changed topic of #editorial to: #editorial Editors: Please subscribe to the Story-Meta Discussion forum threads to get notification via email when comments post there.
[15:31:10] <xlefay> LaminatorX: last note, by default you just get voice (you can manually just .op and crap) - so don't let that confuse you.
[15:31:52] <LaminatorX> Got it. I've done that on #Soylent a couple simes.
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[15:43:46] <janrinok> lo
[15:49:54] <LaminatorX> .topic Editors: Please subscribe to the Story-Meta Discussion forum threads if you want notification via email when comments post there.
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[15:50:06] <LaminatorX> Hey there.
[15:50:29] <LaminatorX> .help
[15:52:27] <LaminatorX> .topicappend |http://forums.soylentnews.org/viewforum.php?f=18
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[16:17:03] <xlefay> LaminatorX: aah btw, no need to | manually, as you can see BaconServ will prepend it for you.
[16:18:29] <LaminatorX> I noticed that once I saw the results. Thanks though.
[16:19:50] <xlefay> <-- not an editor, because he often states the obvious for no reason. ;)
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[16:36:23] <LaminatorX> I'm switchin the Josh Pillault story to next-up. That just happened yesterday afternoon.
[16:38:46] <janrinok> LaminatorX: I've re-edited that story if you want to check it?
[16:40:56] <LaminatorX> Sure.
[16:45:00] <LaminatorX> I replaced the "per cent" usages with "%" and fixed a typo. Otherwise, good. Thanks for re-working it.
[16:45:38] <janrinok> np
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[16:56:36] <janrinok> hi robind
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[16:57:22] <janrinok> hi robinld - you joined twice?
[16:58:32] <robinld> whoops
[16:58:42] <robinld> probably from network going up/down
[16:59:57] <janrinok> and a typo in the first logon ?
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[22:09:09] <mattie_p> anyone else on right now?
[22:16:13] <LaminatorX> I'm here.
[22:19:23] <Cactus> half paying attn
[22:19:28] <Cactus> maybe less than half.
[22:19:34] <Cactus> But I'm here anyway!
[22:22:26] <LaminatorX> I've been keeping tabs on the trans athlete story. The comments are better than I had feared they might be.
[22:23:57] <LaminatorX> There're a few doosies, but moderation seems to be working.
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[22:24:16] <mattie_p> I'm cueing one of janrinok
[22:24:19] <Cactus> I was actually thinking the same thing. Went through it a few hours ago
[22:24:21] <mattie_p> stories for publication
[22:24:34] <Cactus> We ever deceide anything on the religion one?
[22:24:37] <mattie_p> the one on the android camera malware
[22:24:53] <mattie_p> can someone check it out real quick? news like this, while it only affects a small number of users
[22:25:05] <LaminatorX> I'm thinking maybe run it this weekend.
[22:25:10] <LaminatorX> I'll look now.
[22:25:14] <mattie_p> could be important, hadn't heard of this exploit, could be others in the wild
[22:25:15] <mattie_p> k
[22:25:30] <mattie_p> if you want to bump it back thats cool too
[22:29:07] <LaminatorX> You're instinct was correct. Anything involving a recent exploit discovery should run immeditely.
[22:29:23] <mattie_p> Good to know, I suspected as much
[22:31:11] <mattie_p> We'll let janrinok know to get our attention when he posts something like this again
[22:31:20] <mattie_p> something to bring up tomorrow
[22:31:28] <LaminatorX> I wonder if it might behoove us to monitor Internet Storm Center, nanogml, and such things. Swoop in on hot news, as it were.
[22:32:21] <mattie_p> maybe we ought to compile a list of those to monitor in our spare time
[22:33:14] <LaminatorX> I think so.
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[22:53:20] <Cactus> That's what I was saying before, when you linked me to Ask Soylent post, mattie_p.
[22:53:45] <MrBluze> This is just an idea: The quality of story submissions is at the moment very high, and thank you for that.
[22:53:52] <MrBluze> Hi all btw
[22:53:55] <mattie_p> hey
[22:54:16] <mattie_p> Cactus, yeah, I just don't know if we need to run another one so soon after that one.
[22:54:26] <mattie_p> But that article is a resource we could use
[22:54:48] <Cactus> No no. Not that.
[22:55:10] <Cactus> That wasn't quite where I was going with that Q, though the comments did have a few good suggestions.
[22:55:43] <mattie_p> oh?
[22:56:02] <MrBluze> The idea: recruit volunteers from the people who post stories to take on the role of following a particular news feed or source and be the watchman for that news source ... this way you can have an idea of which areas of the news-world are covered and which are not.
[22:56:25] <MrBluze> that's all, thanks :)
[22:56:34] <Cactus> Just was thinking of a common list of everyones "best news" places, so we can all have a more complete RSS feed to pull from when things get low, or so we can get breaking news.
[22:57:04] <Cactus> That post was more toungue-in-cheek poke at /., asking people about Soylent and |.
[22:57:06] <MrBluze> better than RSS feed is RSS feeders ;) ie: people
[22:57:42] <Cactus> Yeah, MrBluze. But that submission queue got mighty low last night.
[22:58:12] <LaminatorX> Not a bad idea. Like a reporter's "beat."
[22:58:47] <MrBluze> well, i mean u give people journalism roles
[22:58:51] <MrBluze> u are editors
[22:58:54] <MrBluze> but where are your journalists
[23:00:01] <mattie_p> the whole community is the journalists
[23:00:10] <MrBluze> it is, mattie_p
[23:00:10] <mattie_p> we just fill in when the stories are running low
[23:00:22] <Cactus> We kinda spoke about that yesterday.
[23:00:29] <MrBluze> okay :) then never mind
[23:00:33] <MrBluze> cheers
[23:00:38] <mattie_p> no, better to bring it up
[23:00:45] <LaminatorX> Not a bad idea to provide some resources for those who want to go deeper though.
[23:00:48] <mattie_p> please never feel you can't contribute
[23:00:54] <Cactus> Have a slighty overstaffed editorial group, and have ed's actively looking for stories when things get low
[23:01:22] <MrBluze> u can do that, or u can look at who contributes your best stories and ask them to be regulars
[23:01:34] <Cactus> That too.
[23:01:44] <Cactus> That's how we got Jan and MrGirl
[23:01:56] <LaminatorX> A little bit of both may happen in the future.
[23:02:02] <Cactus> I think AnonTechie was brought up yesterday.
[23:02:20] <LaminatorX> Who's gone quiet today, oddly.
[23:02:35] <Cactus> He has one sub there now
[23:02:56] <Cactus> One *new* sub, and still the older one
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[23:09:24] <LaminatorX> I don't expect something as formal as dedicated reporters will happen in the near term, but some sources collections on the forum or wiki would be helpful as far as facillitating member submissions..
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[23:25:42] <janrinok> back on - sup?
[23:34:55] <LaminatorX> Heading home. I'll check in later this evening. Nice work today crew. Way to step up with the submissions, Janrinok.
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[23:36:49] <janrinok> thx cu l8r perhaps - although its late here
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