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[13:54:51] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: which template?
[13:54:54] * TheMightyBuzzard waves
[13:55:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea, you're the one who changed it
[13:55:04] * Bytram flaps
[13:55:12] <Bytram> ~blame
[13:55:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> =blame
[13:55:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> #blame
[13:55:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, have to do it manually
[13:55:43] <janrinok> no bots it seems...
[13:55:46] * TheMightyBuzzard points at Bytram
[13:55:57] <Bytram> .op
[13:55:57] -!- mode/#dev [+o Bytram] by Hera
[13:55:58] <janrinok> Seconded!
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[13:56:05] <Bytram> .deop
[13:56:05] -!- mode/#dev [-o Bytram] by Hera
[14:16:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> just as well you buggered something minor up, otherwise the change would have been lost next time we updated the code.
[14:21:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, i have no idea wtf is going on
[14:22:59] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ping
[14:23:17] <Bytram> So you are seeing it in /my/messages
[14:23:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes
[14:24:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's in the message_body div, outside the <p> tag though.
[14:25:09] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:25:27] <Bytram> can you pls reply to my comment so I can see it here?
[14:25:42] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ^^^
[14:25:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's also in the individual message view from messages.pl
[14:27:13] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I'd reply to myself, but ISTR the code assumes I'd know about that and wouldn't send me a message about it.
[14:27:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> default->messages->display
[14:27:25] <Bytram> l
[14:28:40] <Bytram> I don't see anything on that template.
[14:29:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> roger, jumped the gun
[14:29:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> really wish you'd kept track of your changes. not going to be able to keep them without redoing them entirely now
[14:30:24] <Bytram> I did and thought I caught all of them.
[14:30:46] <Bytram> I apologize for my mistake and causing all this hassle.
[14:31:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, which files did you change?
[14:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> templates rather
[14:31:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries. bugs happen.
[14:31:38] <Bytram> could you just please reply to my msg so I can see it?
[14:31:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> you've caught enough of mine, turnabout is fair play.
[14:31:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> did
[14:31:50] <Bytram> ok. doh!
[14:32:29] <Bytram> Oh, *there*. not where I thought
[14:38:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> found it
[14:38:45] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ Awesome!
[14:38:45] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 28
[14:38:52] <Bytram> where?
[14:38:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> default->comments->reply_msg
[14:39:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can fix
[14:39:09] <Bytram> dont' touch it yet
[14:40:20] <Bytram> done
[14:40:26] <Bytram> lemme bounce the servers
[14:40:48] <Bytram> bounced
[14:41:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't test with old messages, have to make new ones
[14:41:55] <Bytram> okaaay
[14:42:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> new one coming your way shortly
[14:43:49] <Bytram> and your's is on its way, too
[14:46:44] <Bytram> from ADMIN > INFO > Slashd:
[14:46:46] <Bytram> message_delivery 2020-07-07 14:45:08 1.86 sent 4 ok, 0 failed 2020-07-07 14:50:00
[14:47:04] <Bytram> gonna be a few minutes
[14:51:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> all good
[14:51:39] <Bytram> yep!
[14:51:43] <Bytram> Whew!
[14:51:48] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[14:51:48] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 29
[14:51:53] <Bytram> teamwork++
[14:51:53] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 19
[14:52:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> just so ya know, i've done the exact same thing, copying and pasting from a template file when that's not what goes in the template editor.
[14:52:41] <Bytram> NOW you tell me! ;)
[14:53:04] <Bytram> I don't feel quite so bad; thanks for telling me that!
[14:54:36] <Bytram> Q: Why did fixing the template and bouncing the server NOT fix it? I thought after a bounce, that when I brought up the page, the templates would all get invoked again and build everything fresh?
[14:55:00] <Bytram> I mean, why is the old stuff still in there>
[14:55:03] <Bytram> ?
[15:03:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> because the messages are already written by the time they hit the inbox
[15:04:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> it doesn't render them at display time, it renders them as soon as it sends the message
[15:05:22] <Bytram> Ahhh, that's what slashd has *already* grabbed, got it.
[15:05:28] <Bytram> TYVM
[15:21:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> slashd doesn't do the rendering, the messages get rendered by rehash and queued for sending somewheres in the db, then slashd picks them up and delivers them whenever it's set to.
[15:23:15] <Bytram> ahh, I recall seeing a table that fits that description. Makes more sense, now.
[15:29:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't. looked for it for like half an hour once then decided i didn't really care since it only held ephemeral data instead of config data.
[15:32:31] <Bytram> FYI I'm writing up a story to splain what happened...
[15:46:07] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Story done. Feel free to take a look: https://soylentnews.org
[15:46:08] <systemd> ^ 03Error ( https://soylentnews.org )
[15:46:12] <Bytram> lol
[15:46:21] <Bytram> break time
[15:48:19] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Oh, FYI: I used your reply to me as an example of the changed/improved behavior.
[16:02:09] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I've made a slight change to the story and included a link to where the changed links will appear. https://soylentnews.org
[16:02:09] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Message Center
[16:02:16] <Bytram> saving it now.
[16:02:44] <Bytram> done.
[16:06:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, added a bit
[16:06:12] <Bytram> looking
[16:06:50] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ Awesome! Thanks
[16:06:50] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 30
[16:07:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know you didn't wanna do two things in one update but i have no such concern for trivialities. which is why you debug my stuff more than the converse but also quicker.
[16:08:14] <Bytram> So, you updated my example with that change?
[16:08:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> not the examples, the template
[16:09:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> wanted what you said and what i was saying to remain tell-apart-able
[16:09:09] <Bytram> so the example in the story is not accurate... will fix. =)
[16:09:30] <Bytram> but my example has the actual link text in it
[16:09:40] <Bytram> urrrg, yeah, but.
[16:09:59] <Bytram> Fixing it anyway
[16:10:03] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[16:11:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes more sense to me the other way but i don't mind
[16:11:11] * Bytram adds: &noupdate=1 to the "after" links
[16:11:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i long ago gave up on expecting everything to make sense. have to if you wanna fish a lot.
[16:12:31] <Bytram> saved, please take a look to make sure I got it right.
[16:13:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like. s'just adding a &noupdate=1 before the #commentwrap. pretty sure even chromas could do it.
[16:14:12] <Bytram> Yes, but better to check one time too many than one time too few
[16:14:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> and put you out of a job?! never!
[16:14:54] <Bytram> Is this a good time to ask for a raise?
[16:15:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but you can have a 5% one anyway. can't have inflation making all them zeroes worth less.
[16:15:38] <Bytram> Knowing my luck, I'll get razed, instead.
[16:16:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean if we did it'd have to be a signed int instead of unsigned
[16:16:57] <Bytram> just add a bit more bits to the word and we should be gud
[16:19:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i would but i can never tell what the word is. i mean is it bird or grease today?
[16:22:31] <Bytram> :: chyckles ::
[16:23:43] <Bytram> food time and errands. laters. Thanks again for the help!
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